1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Bridgewater is a production of iHeartRadio three D audio and 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Grimm and Mild from Aaron Maky. For a full exposure 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: listen with headphones. Listener discretion advised. 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: This way, it's this way. 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Wait, it's coming from over here, so last, so last, 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: come on, hurry there. 7 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 4: Wait, dad, dad, Jeremy? Who's we have got to stop 8 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 4: meeting like this? 9 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 5: Oh it's just you? 10 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 6: Wow? Am I already such old news? 11 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 5: That is not what I meant. 12 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 6: I just sorry. I thought you were bigfoot? Maybe what? 13 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 4: Well, I assume we're here for the same reason, right, 14 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 4: the attack on the campers, right, yeah. 15 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 5: Right, right, I guess I should have expected to see you. 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 6: Seems like you and your friends really dodged a bullet. 17 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 6: Holy crap. 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the ground was torn to shreds, and 19 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 4: from what they said about the dead camper on the news, 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: that was Yeah. 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 5: I'm starting to think that it was a bad idea 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 5: coming back here. 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 6: Wait did you did I what? No? Never mind that 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 6: you're gonna think I'm nuts. 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 5: No, Well, I think I think we're at the point 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 5: where you should know that I'm the right audience for 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 5: stuff that sounds nuts. 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 6: I thought I heard a voice, I mean just now. 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 6: But it wasn't you. It was a woman. I think 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 6: you heard that. Yeah, yeah, you did too. What do 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 6: you think it was? 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 5: Or? 33 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 6: I guess the question is who? 34 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 5: Okay, so I recognized that voice, at least I think 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 5: I did. 36 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 7: Well, who is it? 37 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 5: It's it's someone impossible. What do you mean the woman 38 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 5: that I mentioned to you before, that the one who 39 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 5: died in free Time? Yeah, it was her voice. What? 40 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it. 41 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 6: Sounds crazy, crazy, remember right? 42 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 5: No, right right? 43 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. 44 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 5: I don't believe in ghosts. What is happening? 45 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 4: Well, maybe it's some kind of mimic, something pretending to 46 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: be her somehow. 47 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 5: A mimic like like. 48 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 4: What, well, you're the expert. But that's a thing, right, 49 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: changelings and shape shifters. 50 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 5: You know, I was just talking about shape shifters with 51 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 5: my friend. Whatever attack the camper feels like the thing 52 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 5: that we saw the other day, but some of the 53 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 5: details aren't lining up. So we were thinking maybe there's 54 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 5: something that can yeah, I don't know, transform in some way, 55 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 5: which would explain all of the different kinds of attacks 56 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 5: that have been happening lately. 57 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, you think it's all one creature. 58 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 8: I don't know. 59 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 5: I don't know. I haven't actually gotten my eyes on 60 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 5: anything except the Howler, and that did not feel like 61 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 5: a shape shifter. 62 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 6: This is all so strange. 63 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 4: I mean, I've been feeling like things are off here, 64 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 4: you know, but I haven't seen anything yet. So I 65 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 4: think if I hadn't met you, I would think I 66 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: was going completely batch it crazy these days. 67 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 5: Well, I am happy that I've kept you saying. I 68 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 5: have to say, it's funny. No. I was also talking 69 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 5: to the same friend about how you're one of the 70 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 5: first people that I've met in a long time that 71 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 5: doesn't make me feel like I'm a total head case 72 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 5: when I talk to them. 73 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 6: Well, aren't we a pair, isn't it rich? 74 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 4: We're just two middle aged weirdos wandering through the wilderness, 75 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 4: one of us desperately trying to find a monster, the 76 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: other one tripping over them all the time. 77 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 5: And amazingly, that feels like the least of my problems. 78 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 4: Are you saying there's more to your interest in all 79 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: of this, more than just childhood obsession? 80 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: Ah? 81 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd like to hear about it. 82 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 4: I mean, if you're willing to talk about it, that 83 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 4: is maybe maybe we could grab a drink sometime. 84 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 5: Oh, I would actually really like that. 85 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 6: You don't have to sound so surprised. 86 00:03:54,360 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 5: No, I'm not. You know, I just don't have a 87 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 5: lot of people to talk to about this stuff, or 88 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 5: at least the people that I do have to talk 89 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 5: to about it are all tangled up in it themselves. 90 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: So well, it sounds like we'll be needing a few 91 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: drinks then, yes, what's your poison. 92 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 5: Let's get trashed. 93 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 9: Okay, So I mean it sounds like it supports the 94 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 9: shape shifter theory. 95 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: Voice mimicry is so common. 96 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's too common. I'm still not sure about 97 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: the voice growing the ability to pull two people who 98 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 5: were standing side by side in opposite directions. 99 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 9: Maybe it was just run of the mill magic, something 100 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 9: that messed with our perception. 101 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 5: Well, whatever it was, we need to be more careful. 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 5: We can't keep getting separated like that. 103 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: We will always find each other, I promise. 104 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 5: Well, I want to be prepared. I've texted Vippin and 105 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 5: he's going to pull everything that you can about voice mimicry. 106 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 5: But even with the added detail of it sounding like 107 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 5: it was coming from two different places. 108 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: We're looking at a lot of possibilities, still. 109 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 5: So many possibilities. You know, it's funny. I always thought 110 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 5: it was fascinating how no matter the location or the culture, 111 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 5: human beings they come up with the same kinds of 112 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 5: monsters over and over again. There are these, you know, 113 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 5: culturally religiously specific ones, of course, but the basic idea 114 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 5: of shape shifters, vampires, vengeful spirits. There are iterations of 115 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 5: those all over the world. And now I think we're 116 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 5: all those people actually just seeing the exact same thing 117 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 5: something It's something real that they're actually seeing, and then 118 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 5: they add the filter of their own cultural norms at 119 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 5: the time that they saw it to shape the narrative 120 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 5: of that entity. 121 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: Right. 122 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 9: You really love this stuff, don't, all of the folklore 123 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 9: and history? 124 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean I used to, anyway, Now it feels 125 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 5: like I just it feels very different. Now, it feels 126 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 5: like it's a survival tool. 127 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: WHOA, what happened here? 128 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 10: Well it happened again? 129 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 5: What what happened again? 130 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 11: The creepy humming house shaking thing and happened to you 131 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 11: guys the other night, this time with added spooky soundtrack. 132 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 10: What there was music? 133 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: Music? What kind of music? 134 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,119 Speaker 7: Oh, the kind that makes you feel like a killer 135 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 7: clown is going to pop out at any moment. 136 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: Killer clown. 137 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, it was classical, some kind of you know, string instrument. 138 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 10: I think maybe a harp. Music was never really my 139 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 10: strong suit, but. 140 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 5: It was Wait wait what then? And why did that 141 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 5: lead you to tear apart your living room? 142 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 10: Well, it sounded like it was coming from inside the house, 143 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 10: like somebody dn't a speaker somewhere? 144 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: Oh, come on, you did this? 145 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 9: Don't you think that you would have noticed if someone 146 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 9: stuck a speaker cabinet behind your couch? 147 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 5: That speakers can be really small now, like it's like 148 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 5: everything else. But you don't You don't really think that 149 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 5: somebody planted something here, do you? Oh? 150 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 10: No, but that doesn't mean something didn't get in here anyway. 151 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: You know, what do you mean? 152 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 10: You came through the veil to our side, so I 153 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 10: have a bunch of monsters, So was to say that 154 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 10: something else couldn't have as well? I mean, I don't know, like. 155 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 5: Like someone who came in and planted a tiny fairy 156 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 5: speaker or a magic herb. 157 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 7: And I told her it was unlike me. 158 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 6: Come on, well then, the livey why are you helping her? 159 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 7: Because what if it was coming from something that's already here. 160 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: I don't follow. 161 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 7: We were thinking about the voicemails, the ones you left Thomas. 162 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: Right, voicemails. 163 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 10: What we never asked you about it. When you were 164 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 10: trying to speak to me, trying to get the word 165 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 10: out about what was happening, it was coming through as 166 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 10: messages on my machine. 167 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: You weren't just hearing my voice. 168 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 9: I just assumed that's how I heard Celeste, just a 169 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 9: disembodied voice in the. 170 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 11: Limital, right, But that's because there's nothing in the liminal. 171 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 11: So somehow, when you were speaking through the veil, it 172 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 11: was captured by an old message machine. 173 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, thank god too, because if I'd just been hearing 174 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 10: your voice, people would have thought I was really off 175 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 10: my rocker. 176 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 5: You know, I think people thought you were off your rocker. 177 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 10: Anywhere I am on my rocker, son. 178 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 5: So wait a minute. So you think that the music 179 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 5: was coming from something that you already owned, that it's 180 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 5: from the liminal getting here somehow, I. 181 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 10: Don't think it's from the liminal. I think it's from 182 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 10: the other side. 183 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 9: It would have to be from the other side. My 184 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 9: whole time there, I never heard anything close to music. 185 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 5: Well that doesn't mean that things haven't changed. I could 186 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 5: Alden somehow be doing it. And are you sure? Are 187 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 5: you both sure that it wasn't actually singing. It's not 188 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: like the connection between here and the liminal is exactly 189 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 5: like Crystal Clear. 190 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 11: No, not singing. Okay, it was definitely instrumental in it. 191 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 7: There's something so weird about it? 192 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 5: What what? What could be weirder than it? Coming from nowhere? 193 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 11: It was I don't know right, nothing sounded human, nana like, 194 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 11: even if it was human instruments, it was like they 195 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 11: were being played by something that wasn't It was. 196 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 9: I'm badly played off key. 197 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 7: No, that's not it. I can't explain it. 198 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 10: It's more like, Uh, it came with a feeling, you know. 199 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 10: I think that's what you're trying to get it right, 200 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 10: Like a feeling. 201 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, it came with this feeling. 202 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: Oh that can't be good. 203 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 11: Well, hence trying to find some sort of reasonable explanation, you. 204 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 7: Know, reasonable being an extremely relative term over here. 205 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 5: Okay, did have you found anything? 206 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 10: Nothing? How'd you fare in the swamp? Was it that 207 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 10: thing that we saw kill the camper? 208 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 5: Yes? Maybe it's a little unclear, but it is clear 209 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 5: that something something is is definitely trying to communicate with us. 210 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 5: Has So we heard Celestes voice. 211 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 7: What what isn't she dead? 212 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 10: Yeah? 213 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 7: And not in the limit A right? 214 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 11: Okay, so we have no idea what we're dealing with here. 215 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 10: Well what was she saying? 216 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 8: I don't know. 217 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 5: She was saying a bunch of stuff, trusting her uh 218 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 5: and it happening. 219 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 2: That would be better this time? 220 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 8: Right? 221 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 10: What better? 222 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 7: Okay, Well, that's good. 223 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 5: She also said we want you and come here. 224 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 10: Which is what Ethan said. 225 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 5: That's right, Yeah, exactly the same thing. 226 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, maybe it was someone who got possessed in the 227 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 10: same way that Ethan did. 228 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: It wasn't a person. 229 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 9: No, that voice was coming from two different directions. 230 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 5: And it was definitely Celeste or her voice at least 231 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 5: that I know. 232 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 11: Okay, we don't really know what's on the other side yet. 233 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 11: Maybe it was some kind. 234 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 7: Of afterlife and Celeste's spirit is trying. 235 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 10: To talk to you. 236 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 5: I think that that would be the best option. Honestly, 237 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 5: I don't know. 238 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 9: Should we hold a say aunts or find a medium 239 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 9: medium couldn't hurt. 240 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 5: I have never done a SANDS before, but I guess 241 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 5: I know the basics. 242 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 10: I mean, I think we can probably find a medium 243 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 10: in Bridgewater. 244 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, we have to be careful because even if 245 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 5: talking to the dead is possible, it doesn't mean that 246 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 5: there aren't a whole shitload of scammers out there. 247 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 11: A medium, a medium. We need to find the right medium. 248 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 5: Yes, exactly, we need someone reputable. I mean, can't believe 249 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 5: I'm saying that, But maybe I can try to talk 250 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 5: to some of the other folklore folks and see a thing, no, not. 251 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 11: A psychic, the right communication medium. Okay, think about it. 252 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 11: Thomas was able to communicate through the answering machine, Celest's 253 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 11: voice was coming through the swamp. 254 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 7: There's no seeming connection between those things. Okay, so what 255 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 7: if there is a connection and we're just not seeing it. 256 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 5: Well, I think that describes a lot of what we're 257 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 5: doing right now, right. 258 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 11: Sure, yeah, but maybe there's a way to get more 259 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 11: data to connect the dots. So, Alden, before you got here, Thomas, 260 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 11: did he ever try to reach out? Did he try 261 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 11: to contact someone over here? 262 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 9: He was a scared seven year old trapped in another dimension. 263 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 9: He definitely tried to call out for help. 264 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 7: Okay, so maybe someone heard him, and if we figure 265 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 7: out how they heard him, then we say. 266 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, but how would we do that? They mean, 267 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 5: this was eighty years ago. You know his parents are 268 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 5: long dead, right, he had. 269 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 7: A younger brother. Alden has a brother and he's still alive. 270 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 7: What really I found him? 271 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 11: When I was looking into Alden's story, I didn't think 272 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 11: it was relevant. Honestly, it's not like we can tell 273 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 11: him anything that would give him closure after all these years. 274 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 11: And he was only five when Alden went missing, so 275 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 11: he might not even remember it happening. 276 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 10: But that doesn't mean he wasn't communicated with later exactly. 277 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 11: You didn't start hearing Thomas's voicemails until this year. 278 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 7: Who knows when he left them? 279 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: Well, I was always calling out to you, Anne, always right. 280 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 7: So maybe Alden's brother heard something he can't explain either. 281 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 7: You think you would talk to us, well, I mean 282 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 7: I think it's worth to try. And he's right here 283 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 7: in Bridgewater. 284 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 5: Hey, mister Jansen, I think thanks for agreeing to talk 285 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 5: to us. 286 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 8: Oh please call me Lee. Not every day I get visitors. 287 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 9: It's really nice to meet you, Lee. I'm Thomas and 288 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 9: this is Jeremy. Has your family mostly moved away? 289 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: Well? 290 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 8: I never had children myself and my sister rest her soul. 291 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 8: Her kids live up in New Hampshire and their kids 292 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 8: are all grown now. So oh, they come and visit 293 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 8: when they can. But there's not a lot in the 294 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 8: way of entertainment in this place. So when they said 295 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 8: there were two men here to interview me for a book, 296 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 8: well that was just about me my day. 297 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 5: Well, we're happy to hear that, although. 298 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 8: Fish to be quite confused as why you want to 299 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 8: talk to me. 300 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 5: Well, i am a professor here at the local college, 301 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 5: and I'm writing a book about the region, and specifically 302 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 5: I'm looking at unsolved mysteries and the like. And I 303 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 5: know that you have lived here your entire life. I have, 304 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 5: and I also know that you have a personal. 305 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 8: This is about all of them, isn't it. 306 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I take it. 307 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 9: You've been asked about him before a few times through 308 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 9: the year. 309 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 8: Every now and again, someone will get their heads stuck 310 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 8: into all the missing person cases in Bridgewater, and my 311 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 8: brother is one of that. It's kept folks interest, I 312 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 8: think because he was so young and there was never 313 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 8: any evidence at all as to what happened. 314 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 5: I'm so sorry. 315 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 8: Oh I don't remember. If that's what you're here for well, 316 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 8: he was two years old older than me, and I 317 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 8: barely remember him at all. 318 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: That must have been hard for all of you. 319 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 8: My family, we we didn't really talk about it. It 320 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 8: was a it was a different time back then. But 321 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 8: I also know that, well, losing your child isn't something 322 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 8: you ever get over. 323 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 5: And your parents, they did they ever have any guesses 324 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 5: or talk to you about what might have happened? 325 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 8: Well, they assumed he was kidnapped, like everyone else. What 326 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 8: did you think? My sister, she was there right before 327 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 8: it happened, and she always thought it was some kind 328 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 8: of monster in the woods. 329 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 5: I guess that would make sense when she was a 330 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 5: child herself. 331 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 8: Right, It's not a belief she grew out of. 332 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 5: And And what what did you believe? 333 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 8: I always thought there was something strange about this place, 334 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 8: And based on the type of folk who have come 335 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 8: to talk to me through the years, I know I'm 336 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 8: not the only one. And I suspect you're not here 337 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 8: to ask me about whatever official investigation took place back then. 338 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 8: No we're not, so go on tell me whatever wild 339 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 8: theory you have. 340 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 5: We actually were wondering more if you had any theories 341 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 5: or if there's anything through the years that you haven't 342 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 5: been able to explain about it. 343 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 8: You may have I seen my brother's ghost tracked down 344 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 8: the monster that they did. 345 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 9: We are not trying to make a mockery of your 346 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 9: family's Tragedyly, we care about Alden his story. 347 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: But I take it a lot of the people who 348 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 5: have come to you through the years have just been 349 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 5: looking for something sensational, right. 350 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 8: That's a way of putting it. 351 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 5: We don't want anything but the truth. And if that 352 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 5: truth is that you have no memory of your brother 353 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 5: and nothing of his life or disappearance to share at 354 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 5: this point, then that's totally okay. 355 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 8: What truth are you expecting to fly? 356 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 2: What do you mean? 357 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 8: Folks usually have an idea in their heads. You say 358 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 8: you want my theory, but I'm betting you have one 359 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 8: of your own. 360 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 9: We we've heard of missing people being able to contact 361 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 9: their loved ones. 362 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 8: I've never seen his ghost, As much as some people 363 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 8: might want to believe that. 364 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess we're not really talking about a ghost 365 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 5: so much as I don't know. Did you ever hear 366 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 5: of a voice of a voice that might have that 367 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 5: might have. 368 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 8: Sounded like all, then a ghostly voice is still a ghost. 369 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 9: Not ghostly, No, it would have been It would have 370 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 9: come from somewhere like an answering machine or a phone 371 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 9: or some specific place. 372 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 5: Or maybe any any kind of object that can produce 373 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 5: a sound, right, I mean, as far as we know, 374 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 5: be a record player or a radio, a radio, yeah, right, 375 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 5: it could be a radio. 376 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 8: Who are you people? 377 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: Have you heard something? 378 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 8: Me? Olden? He had a little radio on his nightstand. 379 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 8: When I went to college, I took it with me 380 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 8: and I've had it ever since. 381 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 5: And you you heard something from this radio, something other 382 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 5: than a broadcast. 383 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: It used to act funny. 384 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd have it tuned to one of the usual stations, 385 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 8: strong signal and all that, but it gets statically and well, 386 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 8: strange sometimes strange. How you said other people have heard 387 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 8: voices before of people who disappeared. 388 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 9: Yes, well, we can't tell you more without violating people's privacy. 389 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 8: But yes, I always thought I was imagining it. 390 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: But you heard something. 391 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 8: I don't know what it was. It sounded like a 392 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 8: little boy, but I always I always thought it was 393 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 8: interference from another broadcast. It was an old radio, and 394 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 8: there were so many more stations than there used to be. 395 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 5: When was this? 396 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 8: Let me see it? Was that was at the Green 397 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 8: Bank House. So the seventies, well, the eighties, maybe we. 398 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 5: Do you still have that radio? 399 00:19:59,440 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 12: Hello? 400 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 10: Hey, Hippin, come in, Hey Vippin. 401 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 12: Hey is Jeremy here? 402 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 10: Oh? 403 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 7: You just missed him? 404 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 10: Yeah. He and Thomas went back to talk to Aldon's brother. 405 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 10: Oh Lee, you know. Yeah. 406 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 12: Olivia and I talked about it a little bit. I 407 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 12: thought we agreed it wouldn't be good to tell him anything. 408 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 11: No, we do, we do agree, But I realized maybe 409 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 11: he could tell us something that maybe maybe Aldn tried 410 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 11: to communicate with him the same way Thomas did with Anne. 411 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 12: Oh smart, Uh, how are you guys doing after the 412 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 12: whole earthquake thing? I texted him, You're not the only 413 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 12: one apparently, I've missed quite the afternoon. 414 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 7: Yeah, how was your coffee with Peyton? 415 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 12: Illuminating? I'll tell you all about it. But you're okay? 416 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 5: Really? 417 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean we're okay, But I mean it can't 418 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 11: be good that this is the second time it's happened. 419 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 10: Right, Yeah about that. I don't think anyone should be 420 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 10: staying here until we figure out what's going on. It 421 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 10: could be dangerous. 422 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 7: That's a good point. Yeah, we'll figure something out. 423 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 10: You could stay with me. 424 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 12: I mean I only have a couch, but I could 425 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 12: sleep on that and you could take my bed. I 426 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 12: really don't mind. 427 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 11: I don't actually live here, remember, Oh right, God stupid, 428 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 11: forget I said. 429 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 7: Anything, no, no, thank you for that's a really sweet offer. 430 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 12: And the offer extends to you too. I know Jeremy 431 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 12: doesn't have a guest room either, but between the. 432 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 10: Two of us, well, I think it might be time 433 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 10: for us to go home with Live. But thank you? 434 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: Really? 435 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 5: Are you sure? 436 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 10: I don't know how much longer we can hire Thomas 437 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 10: from your mom live. I'm sure we could couch surf, 438 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 10: but you know it's time. 439 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 6: So about that? 440 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 11: What Thomas hasn't talked to you about what? I look, 441 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 11: Mom needed to know live, so I brought Thomas to 442 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 11: see her and christ Well it was it was, I mean, 443 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 11: it became fine. 444 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 3: You know. 445 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 7: I explained everything and she and Thomas talked. 446 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 11: So I don't know, I think she shouldmight be willing 447 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 11: to have you this stay over. 448 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 10: Would this be why maybe she's not returning any of 449 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 10: my calls. 450 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 7: Well, she's pissed Nana, and I think she has every 451 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 7: right to be. 452 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 10: Oh, Olivia, I am not okay with you going behind 453 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 10: my back like this. 454 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 7: Oh, and I'm not okay with you hiding my grandfather's 455 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 7: identity for forty years. So yeah, I guess we're even. 456 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, I guess. So what should I expect then? Will 457 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 10: she even let me into the house? 458 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 7: Fifty to fifty chance? I mean, maybe a little higher, 459 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 7: since it's it's just her. 460 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 10: Right now, Ethan and your dad are still at his 461 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 10: parents right. 462 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, for the next week at least. 463 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 10: It gives us plenty of time to talk it out. 464 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 7: Well that's optimistic. 465 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 10: All right, I'm gonna go call your mom, make sure 466 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 10: it's okay, and then pack a bag and just give 467 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 10: me your phone what she'll pick up for you. 468 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 7: Okay, So you're just leaning into her being kissed off 469 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 7: at either. 470 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 10: Well, it can't get any worse, can it. 471 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 7: I mean, only one way to find out. 472 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 12: So how do you actually feel about that? 473 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 10: I don't know. 474 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 11: I mean I do think my mom has settled down 475 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 11: a little. But putting her and Nana and Thomas and 476 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 11: I mean, let's be honest, probably Jeremy all in a room, 477 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 11: it's going to be. 478 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I don't envy that conversation. 479 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 7: Does that offer to stay applied to escaping to yours 480 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 7: just for an emergency drink. 481 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely. I'm sorry about that. I didn't it was 482 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 12: that was so presumptuous of. 483 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 10: Me, Nippin. 484 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 7: You weren't propositioning me. You were making a nice offer 485 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 7: to a friend, you know, unless. 486 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 12: No, no, no, I swear I was just friendly not 487 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 12: to say that. I mean, you know, I think we. 488 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 7: Would you like to go out on a date sometime? 489 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 7: What what do you like? 490 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 12: Yes, yes, definitely I would, Yes, that that. 491 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 7: Would be great, good good. 492 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 11: I mean not now obviously we're even like this week, 493 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 11: because but after we stop the end of the world 494 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 11: or whatever, then then. 495 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 12: Maybe we'll go out to celebrate. 496 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 10: Okay, perfect, all right, your mom's expecting us later. 497 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 7: How'd that go? 498 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 10: Well, she didn't yell at me, so so really bad. 499 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 10: M hm, Yeah, this is gonna be very unpleasant. All right, Vivan, 500 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 10: how is our favorite mystical leader? 501 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 12: She was surprisingly forthcoming. Really yeah, she explained everything she knows. 502 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 12: The Gathering is tasked with protecting our world from the 503 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 12: other by keeping the gate closed through human sacrifice. Well, 504 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 12: she said, volunteering. 505 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 10: I'm sure she did. 506 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 12: It'll be her in Virginia when the time comes, their 507 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 12: leader goes into the liminal willingly, letting the person in 508 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 12: there already move on. 509 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 7: She signed up for that. 510 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 12: Apparently she's a legacy, and I bet she's not the 511 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 12: only one. The gathering is just the group here on 512 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 12: the East Coast. There are what sounds like hundreds of 513 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 12: other groups around the world doing the same thing. 514 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 7: So a network of supernatural gatekeepers and literally, yeah. 515 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 12: Literally, and sometimes that leads to stuff like the children 516 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 12: of Tichiba, people going rogue and trying to harness the 517 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 12: power of the Fay realm for themselves. 518 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 7: What is that even possible? 519 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 12: Peyton wasn't sure. She said there's a lot of magic 520 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 12: over there that we still don't understand, and maybe someone 521 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 12: could learn it, But she was pretty insistent on the 522 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 12: fact that the Fey are not something to be controlled. 523 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 10: Did it seem like she was interested in learning that 524 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 10: magic herself. 525 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 7: I don't. 526 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 12: I don't think so. I think we can trust her. 527 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 12: She clearly has a lot of respect for the other side. 528 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 12: She doesn't think that she's more powerful than it, or 529 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 12: that she could try and harness it the way that 530 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 12: the children wanted to. 531 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 8: Well. 532 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 10: Respect isn't all that far from Reverend I mean when 533 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 10: she got rid of the sasquatch, she sent it back 534 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 10: instead of killing it, and always bugged me. 535 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 12: She has killed monsters before, or well her dad did, 536 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 12: I guess, but she didn't seem bothered by that idea. 537 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 10: I just want us to be careful. 538 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 8: Okay. 539 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 10: It all feels a little convenient that she showed up here. 540 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 11: Why isn't she filling in for Celeste? I mean that 541 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 11: has to happen from gathering group to gathering group, right. 542 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 12: She said they don't actually talk all that much, but 543 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 12: that she knew something was wrong up here. 544 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, And my question is how It's not like Bridgewater 545 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 10: went from having no paranormal sidings to having a bunch 546 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 10: of them. I mean, how would she even know that 547 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 10: things have gone wrong? 548 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: Now? 549 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 12: Celeste always said she was attuned, right, Maybe they're taught 550 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 12: to connect to the veil somehow feel it when it 551 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 12: tears or gets thin. 552 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 10: Well, that's what I'm worried about. That sounds like magic 553 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 10: to me. And if Peyton has learned that Anne learned 554 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 10: how to banish monsters back to the other side, then 555 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 10: what else had she learned? What could she be hiding 556 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 10: from us? 557 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 7: I see that finding out about literal monsters that want 558 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 7: to kill us has not made you less suspicious of humans, Nana. 559 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 10: I'm just saying I think. 560 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 7: We should be careful. 561 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 11: Yes, yes, yeah, Oh that's Jeremy. 562 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 7: They're done at the retirement home and headed to my house. 563 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 5: Oof. 564 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 7: Okay, looks like it's time to face the music. 565 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 10: Hey, thanks for waiting for us. 566 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: I didn't think it was a great idea to just 567 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: knock on the door. 568 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 10: Are you okay? You sure you want to do this? 569 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 9: I think it's a good idea for us to stay 570 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 9: somewhere else, and. 571 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: She's really willing. I do want more time with her. 572 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 5: Should I even be here for this? I don't want 573 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 5: to overwhelm Shelley. 574 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 11: I mean she's already been told all the really life 575 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 11: shattering stuff, right, and it's not like she's never met you. 576 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, but not as her brother. 577 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 10: Okay, Hey, did you guys have any luquidly? 578 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 579 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 5: We actually were able to borrow an old radio that 580 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 5: he thinks he may have heard Alden through back in 581 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 5: the seventies. 582 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 7: Really, that's awesome news. 583 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, so we can try to communicate with the missing 584 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 5: boy from the nineteen forties through a radio after we 585 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 5: have this weird family reunion with my new half sister 586 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 5: and my dad. 587 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 8: Dad. 588 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 10: All right, this is going to be fine. 589 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is gonna be fun. 590 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 10: Yeah. 591 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 7: What are you waiting for? 592 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 5: I don't know. 593 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 10: Should we knock? I have a key, but I don't 594 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 10: know if that's the right thing to do. 595 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 7: I live here. Oh my god, Hey Mom, we're home. 596 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 5: Oh oh great, you're all here. 597 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 7: Jeremy. 598 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's. 599 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 7: You always said you wished you'd grown up with siblings. 600 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 7: That is very helpful. 601 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 5: Thank you. 602 00:28:54,560 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 7: Live Someone had to break the eyes, Shelley. I not 603 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 7: ready to talk to you yet. So I look. I 604 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 7: understand that you guys need a place to stay for 605 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 7: god knows what reason, But Nana's house is haunted. 606 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: Uh huh wow. 607 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 7: Just because we're under one roof, it does not mean 608 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 7: we're a family. 609 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: This episode of Bridgewater was written by Lauren Shippen and 610 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: directed by Brendan Patrick Hughes assistant director Sarah Klein. Sound 611 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: designed by Vincent de Johnny Rima Ilkali Josh Thain, and 612 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: Trevor Young, with music by Chad Lawson. Starring Misha Collins 613 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: as Jeremy Bradshaw Melissa Ponzio as Anne Becker, Alan Tudik 614 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: as Thomas Bradshaw, Karen Sony as Vipen Kurana Sabra Mae 615 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: as Olivia Hoskins, Cheryl Umanya as Officer Bautista, Will Wheaton 616 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: as Captain Haddock, Tricia Helfer as the Legend Tripper, Stephen 617 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: Guarino as Doctor Edwards not Sue Dumbe as Peyton Blake, 618 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: Hillary Burton Morgan as Shelley Hoskins, Nicky McCauley as Celeste, 619 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: and Victoria Grace as Katie Franks, with additional voice acting 620 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: by Greta Gould, Shelby Young, Adam O'byrn Monte, Markham, Charlie Bergman, 621 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: and Tarren Westbrook. Executive producers Aaron Mankey, Misha Collins, Lauren Shippen, 622 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: Matt Frederick and Alexander Williams. Supervising producers Josh Thin and 623 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: Trevor Young. Bridgewater was created by me Aaron Manke and 624 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: is a production of Grim and Mild and iHeart three 625 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: D Audio. Learn more about the show over at Grimandmild 626 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: dot com, slash Bridgewater, and find more podcasts from iHeartRadio 627 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen 628 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: to your favorite shows, and as always, thanks for listening.