1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory. Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Sahadev Charma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. The Cubs 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: have lured in their their pitcher, the starting pitcher. They've 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: built rebuilt a bullpen that looks pretty solid on paper 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: right now, and there are still four big bats out there, 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: and you could make a plausible argument for each one 8 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: of them making sense for the Cubs. You know, it's 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Boba Schett, Alex Bregman, Cody Bellinger, Kyle Tucker. I don't 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: think you know, is each one a perfect fit? Does 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: each one make perfect sense? 12 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: No? 13 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: I think there's arguments against them all, really, But the 14 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: Cubs have money to spend right now, and I think 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: it would make a lot of sense to add one 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: of those bats and kind of finish off what's been 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: a good season, good off season, and turn it into 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: a great one. 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: I keep thinking back to what you said our last 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: show of the Cubs Higher Craig Council, But don't go 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: all in that offseason. They trade for Kyle Tucker and 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: then are rather restrained the next off season fascinated to 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: see how this stage of the off season unfolds, and 24 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 2: it'll probably stretch into spring training. 25 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 3: Once again, that would be my bet. 26 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: And I'd imagine what we're talking about here is a 27 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: lot of the same sort of internal debates that the 28 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: Cubs are having. And before we get into each individual guy, 29 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: I think it's important to note that there are several 30 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: big market teams or the history of spending big and 31 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: a pattern of aggressiveness in on all these players. So 32 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: I wouldn't like assume that, oh, the Cubs are just 33 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: gonna land one of them. And there's still a question 34 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: mark of like are they willing to spend up to 35 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: and beyond the luxury tax threshold, And so if it's 36 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: roughly thirty million or whatever, how you want to kind 37 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: of dice it up and maybe you save some for 38 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: in season reinforcements whatever, Like there's a slot a salary 39 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: slot there for an established hitter, and I think everyone 40 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: would agree that would make a ton of sense. Is 41 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: what a team does when they win ninety plus games 42 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: in a playoff round. 43 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, first, luxury text threshold is two forty four Cubs. 44 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: According to Roster Resource on Fangrafts, are at like two 45 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: teen point five let's say let's say two fourteen, so 46 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: about thirty million under it. It'll be interesting how if 47 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: they if and how they could fit any of these 48 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: guys in and still stay under and still have wiggle 49 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: room to add at the deadline. You know, it's not 50 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: an easy thing to do. But also they're the Cubs, 51 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: and we've said this plenty act like it. You know, 52 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: a name that we hadn't I guess heard associated with 53 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: the Cubs until recently was is boas Chet. 54 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: I want to call him Dante. That's how old I am. 55 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: And he's actually you know, like if you're looking at 56 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: youth and like, okay, who do what type of players 57 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: do you give a long term deal to? You know, 58 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: position wise, what type of what type of player do 59 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: you give long team term deals too? He's a he's 60 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: a shortstop. He's going to be twenty eight in March. 61 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: These are usually the guys that get those long term deals, 62 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: the big money deals. He he wall. I think he's 63 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: a you know, more of a contact guy. He doesn't 64 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: strike out a ton. He's not pure, he's not like 65 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 1: just all power, but he's you know, he's a good, good, 66 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: all around bat and not a great defender, but he 67 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: plays up the middle, so that gives him value. Seems 68 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: like he would be the type of guy that you'd 69 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: spend big on, that the Cubs would be interested in. 70 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: But only recently did we start hearing his name, And 71 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, I think there are reasons for that, but 72 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: he's he's certainly someone that fits and and would be 73 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: a nice long term piece as well. 74 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 3: Sorry, I wasn't even listening. 75 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: I was looking at Dante Vischet's baseball reference kind of 76 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: it's kind of a amazing uh. I think we'll get 77 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: into one reason why he hasn't been. 78 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: As much of a focus. 79 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: I think Alex pregnant Is is a big part of that, 80 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: and he's kind of the next name on deck. But 81 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: you know, Bishett our colleagues Matt gil and Ken Rosenthal, 82 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: so that he has a meeting set up with the Phillies, 83 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: I think additional port of the athletic makes it seem 84 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: like he's probably not heading back to Toronto. 85 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: Had these ups and downs in Toronto. 86 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: It's really amazing when you think about how like that 87 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: core group was largely viewed as a disappointment, The sort 88 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: of bridesmaids and free agencies, and then all of a 89 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: sudden they have that amazing October and they're a destination 90 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: And you know, he had some huge moments for the 91 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: Blue Jays. 92 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 3: I think that matters. 93 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: He's been banged up to and you know, even though 94 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: he's young, he'll be turned twenty eight during spring training. 95 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: That doesn't necessarily mean like guaranteed longevity, you know what 96 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: I mean of, like, right I gonna age. I'd imagine 97 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: the Cubs, given their how much emphasis they place on defense, 98 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: probably don't give him, you know, the highest of marks 99 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: in that area in terms of projectability. 100 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: Like and really, you know, when we look at the. 101 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: Free agent lists and we're comparing notes and sending texts 102 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: and messages on Slack, it's says like, well, if this 103 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: guy's gonna get three hundred million, ten year deal, Cubs 104 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: don't really do that. They're not in the business of 105 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: doing that. And so now, you know, we're into the 106 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: middle of January, Cups conventions, approaching NFL playoffs about to 107 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: kick off, and he's still out there. And so it 108 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: seems to me a little more like due diligence and 109 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: kind of like staying in the conversation. 110 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: More than. 111 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: Like absolutely fixated on this guy, and that is something 112 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: from the top, like comes want to sign the guy 113 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: that will sign the best deal for them. I think 114 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: we sometimes just internalize that and don't say it out loud, 115 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: but like that is the way to look at this 116 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: whole landscape of they want the best deal for them, 117 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: whatever gives them, you know, the most surplus value, whatever 118 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: maintains that flexibility, whatever the computer says. And so I 119 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: think Boba Schett has a lot going for him in 120 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: that regard. But I can also see where the kind 121 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: of the stop points are the checkpoints. 122 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: For the cups. 123 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are certain things that concern me about Bobashet. 124 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: I mean, where does he play long term? He's not 125 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: a good He's not a good defensive short stuff. But 126 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: I think by both the eye test and the advanced metrics, 127 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: he's not a bad player. 128 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: By any means. 129 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: He's not like a terrible defender, but he's not a 130 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: very good short stop. So that means second base or 131 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: third base. He's got, you know, some some injuries that 132 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: have been nagging him over the past couple of years. 133 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 4: How does he age? How does that body age? 134 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: He's not like this super athletic body type that you know, 135 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: you can shift to any position and feel really good 136 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: about it. Like I think there are aging concerns. It's 137 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: not like a power bat, and a lot of times 138 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: that's what you want to pay for when you're paying 139 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: for long term either it's like, what's the elite tool here. 140 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: He's just kind of like a batting average guy that 141 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: that does have pop, But it's not like there's not 142 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: like this elite skill set that you're just like, you know. 143 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 4: You you're paying for. 144 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: You're paying Dansery Swanson for elite defensive short stuff and 145 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: he's a he's a twenty homer bat a short stop. 146 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: I know, he's not a great offensive player. He's like 147 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: he ends up being like averaged a slightly above average 148 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: every year on offense. But it's a twenty homer pop 149 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: an elite defensive short that's what you're paying for. And 150 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, and the Cubs kind of projected this guy's 151 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: going to stay at shortstop long term. 152 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 4: That's not the projection with Boba Schett. 153 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: That's a you know, they're they're just questions there and 154 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if it's a great fit, 155 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: but I think your point is what we're going to 156 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: get back to on every single one of these players, 157 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: does this contract make sense? Is their value? There is 158 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: their surplus value? I like, I think the next guy, 159 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, Fregman, he just makes the most s for 160 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: what the Cubs are looking for, what they're trying to do. 161 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 4: Look, I know. 162 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm I very much lean to numbers things we can 163 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: like really look at and and break down and understand. Ah, 164 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: But I think there's something to Bregman. Bregman's value that 165 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: we cannot fully look on a Fangrafts page and say, well, 166 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: there it is. 167 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: That's what. Uh. 168 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: You know, Puss puts him over the edge for the Cubs. 169 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: But I think what a lot of what puts him 170 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: over the edge. Look, there's a fit he's he's a 171 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: great defender at third base. His the way his game works. Uh, 172 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: he pulls the ball, but not straight down the line. 173 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: He's more like a gap guy, like a left center 174 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: gap shortest like shallowest left center gap in baseball? 175 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 4: Is regular field? 176 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: Is it going to be as good as what is 177 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: a dacin park? No, it's not like those those boxes, 178 00:10:58,559 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: the Crawford boxes. 179 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 4: That's freakish. That's that's great and same. 180 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: You know, Fenway Park's pretty great too, but Wrigley would 181 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: be great, Like it would be a good ballpark for 182 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: him to hit it. And and I think the clincher 183 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: for me is like this guy is looked at as 184 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: like an. 185 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 4: Elite clubhouse guy. 186 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: Like we talk about the revolt in the clubhouse if 187 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: they get rid of if they. 188 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: Trade Nico Horner. 189 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: I think this is the only guy that can come 190 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: close to like replacing what Nico brings in the clubhouse. 191 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: From everything we hear, not only is he just like 192 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: this elite clubhouse guy, but he's it's not like he 193 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: not only is like the intense like Nico and and 194 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: like all those things that you look for, like a 195 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: Justin Turner type, he's he like genuinely is like another 196 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: coach on the on the team. Like I think there's 197 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: the Cubs buy into that they have people that that 198 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: know him well that I think they project him to age. Well, 199 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: that's something else like a you know, huge age difference. 200 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 4: I think it's a. 201 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: Five year gap, four year gap, maybe four and a 202 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: half year whatever it is between him and Bishet, right, 203 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: that's significant in baseball terms, but it's a. I just 204 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: think they see him aging well, and this is the 205 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: guy that makes the most sense to me when when 206 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: it all when you are talking about every single aspect 207 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: of the game, I think he's the one that makes 208 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: the most sense. 209 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: Without a doubt. I mean, his intangels are so good. 210 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: The Cubs actually acknowledge those things exist like and there 211 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: are people who will vouch for that, and that's why 212 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: there was so much frustration when the Cubs out did 213 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 2: in so many different directions last spring for his services. 214 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: And so the fit is still there. The you know, payroll, 215 00:12:55,120 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: the books are extremely clean moving forward, and you're right, 216 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: like they this guy lit up their model in terms 217 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: of projections of how good he could be into the future, 218 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: his aiding curve. There's some flexibility there as you're looking 219 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 2: ahead over the next couple of years, and it's you 220 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: kind of you know, look at as an investment and 221 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: say the next decade of Pete Crow Armstrong or like 222 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: Matt Shaw or making you know, Michael Bush, like having 223 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: him continue on that path of like you know, Justin 224 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: Turner brought a lot of off the field stuff and 225 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: was a more limited role player on the field, but 226 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: Bregman brings kind of all of that, and within that clubhouse, 227 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: they they knew that too, Like they knew that even 228 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: if Bregman got hurt or struggled at times stuff that 229 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: happened in Boston, that his sort of like baseball mind 230 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: could still bring a lot on a daily basis in 231 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: terms of team preparation. His observations in the dugout in 232 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: the on deck circle really sort of, you know, accentuating 233 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: a culture that they've already started to build. 234 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: And so. 235 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: Because he's older, because they've already, you know, shown a 236 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: willingness to make him, you know, an offer. I think 237 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: he's sort of the the favorite at this point. But 238 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: again it goes back to there are a lot of teams. 239 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: Maybe not a lot of teams, but there's probably enough 240 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: teams to like keep a market for him and to 241 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: keep it to keep the Cubs sort of on their toes. 242 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: And I think, whether it's him or these two other 243 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: guys who are going to be talking about it's this 244 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: he did short term once, I don't know he's willing 245 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: to do it again. 246 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: And whether it's. 247 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: Mellinger dig short term, not sure his appetite for doing 248 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: that again. Kyle Tucker probably won't have to do short term, 249 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: but for all of these guys, if you need a 250 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: place to put up huge numbers and then go back 251 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: out in the free agent market. At this moment, there's 252 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: a lot of skepticism about Wrigley Field and its offensive 253 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: environment for hitters. 254 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think we we've heard Jed Hoyer push 255 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: back on that, and he you know, he's got a point, 256 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: but right now, like that that we just don't know 257 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: what what it's gonna look like year to year, so 258 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: you can't make that assumption. And Michael Bush had a 259 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: great season as a lefty peak Armstore and had a 260 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: great power season as a left So so there are 261 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: lefties that can have really good power numbers. That that, 262 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: and that obviously relates directly to both Tucker and Bellinger 263 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: obviously not Bregnant or Bishett when it comes to lefties. 264 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: But one quick thing before we move on from Bregman. 265 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: We can analyze this more if he's brought in. But 266 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to see how it all works and how 267 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: it fits together with Shaw and Nico. If you keep Nico, 268 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: assuming you keep Nico, which I think I think we 269 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: both agree would be the right thing to do, and 270 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: like what type of super utility role would Shaw phil. 271 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: I think it makes your team complete, I think it 272 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: makes your team deeper. I think it's really interesting. I'd 273 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: be fascinating to hear how the coaching staff would plan 274 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: to use Matt Shaw, Like is he someone that you're 275 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: comfortable starting the season with, is not in your starting 276 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: nine but playing regularly somehow how. 277 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 4: Do you fit them it? How does it work? 278 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: That's I'm just curious to if we get to that point, 279 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: how it works. Not something we need to analyze right 280 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: now because it hasn't happened, but I'm it's just something 281 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: that I keep coming back to when we talk about Bregman, 282 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: like if you don't trade Nico Horner, which I think 283 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: would be the right thing to do, because that's like 284 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: it's like a really like we're going for it this year, 285 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: you know, But I also would understand the the motive 286 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: behind trading him. Don't like it, but I'm just saying, 287 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: like I would get it, But how would you use Shaw? 288 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to see how it would work, especially with 289 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: the second half he had. When it comes to the outfield, 290 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, there's there are fits that like Bellinger, and 291 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: Tucker both fit a look, but I just have a 292 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: like the. 293 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 4: Bellinger fit for me. 294 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: I like Cody Bellinger, loved covering him, good dude in 295 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: the clubhouse, good dude to be around, had one great 296 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: season with the Cubs, had won okay season with the Cubs. 297 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 1: I just don't know if his styal works for Wrigley Field. 298 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 4: I think he'd be a great defensive right fielder. 299 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: I think you do want to play Moyses Biasteros or 300 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: put him in that lineup every day, so the fit 301 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: doesn't work as well. I understand, like I just said, 302 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how exactly would work with Shaw, but 303 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: there's no way it can work with Biaserius because you 304 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: can't play him anywhere. There's nowhere to play him, and 305 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: now you have to you have to batsay a suzuki regularly. 306 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: So it's just it's a weird fit. They suddenly want 307 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: to give him like the some of the mental part 308 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: of it doesn't line up for me, Like they suddenly 309 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: now are willing to pay him like a much bigger deal, 310 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: long term deal, when they didn't want to do it 311 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: last year and they salary dumped him. Essentially does what 312 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: he like does his skill set work for Wrigley. He 313 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: doesn't hit the ball super hard. He's a real like 314 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: he It fits perfectly for Yankee stadium or ballparks that 315 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: where the wind isn't like gonna crush the ball for 316 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: a left handed pull hitter. 317 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 4: I don't see it. I it the. 318 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: Fit for me doesn't work as well as these other guys. 319 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: But I understand it. And again it gets back to 320 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: the point that we're gonna keep coming back to, which is, like, 321 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: I guess if it's circles value, but come on, he's 322 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: gonna want a long term deal, He's gonna want a 323 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: big chunk of change here. 324 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 4: It just doesn't it's not adding up for me. 325 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: No, I'm with you on that one. 326 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 2: I mean, our colleague got the athletic Brendan Cuddy had 327 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: a good story yeah that published this week, saying that 328 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: the Yankees have offered an average annual value of more 329 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: than thirty million a year, while Bellinger's camp has continued 330 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 2: to push for seven years. So, like you said, do 331 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 2: the math here, I mean, how like you know, it 332 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: was years ago when the Cubs held a very firm 333 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: line of not wanting to go long term and giving 334 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: him those opt outs and he didn't use one, and 335 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: then they salary dumped him for a pitcher who didn't 336 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: make it past March in the organization last year. 337 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: So yes, they need bodies. 338 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: Like we could look up at the end of the 339 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: twenty sixth season be like, man, it would be nice 340 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: to have Cody Bellinger. But I'm with you even with 341 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: whatever the terms wind up being. It just I don't 342 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: unless you blow unless if you give him seven years. 343 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: He probably doesn't care if the wind's blowing in at Wrigley. 344 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: But otherwise I think that was a challenge for him 345 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 2: because otherwise he loved you know, he's from from the area, 346 00:20:50,840 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 2: loved training in Mesa, really enjoyed Chicago, fit in very well. 347 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: I think one thing that does not come across and 348 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: maybe it's starting to come across more now, but like 349 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: how much this guy just loves baseball. Like he looks 350 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: sort of, you know, super chill and laid back, but 351 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 2: like he's really into the game and working on his craft, 352 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: and like teammates really appreciate that about him. Coaches and 353 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: managers appreciate that about him. So like he would bring 354 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: certain intangibles and I'm sure he'd be open to it 355 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: to a degree. It's just the like what year is this? 356 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 4: Like? 357 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: What what year? 358 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 4: Like? 359 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 3: What do we want? Why are we talking. 360 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: About the Cubs and Cody Beldrick, Like that was like 361 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: a perfect fit when he needed a spot, a soft 362 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: landing spot after his experience with the Dodgers, and he 363 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: fell to them once and they were able to do 364 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: a deal with Scott Boris. I just have a harder 365 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 2: time seeing them doing it again all these years later, 366 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: kind of going back to the same well there. 367 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weird fit for me for for all 368 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 1: those reasons, And you're right, he was well liked, Like 369 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: I yeah, I think he'd fit. 370 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 4: He fits in well in the clubhouse. 371 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: Look, Kyle Tucker, superstar, Like he's probably of these four. 372 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 4: Like his ceiling bat wise, offense wise, I think it's 373 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 4: pretty clearly the highest. 374 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: Like he's he has a he's an MVP candidate when 375 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: he's healthy and producing. 376 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 4: I don't think many people would argue with that. 377 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: I think he's like probably like like when he's really going, 378 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: he's one of the best bats in baseball. Like we 379 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: saw that for the first few months of the season. 380 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: It was very obvious how impactful he can be. And 381 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: then that second half, you know, the injuries, the hand stuff, 382 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: the whether the hand stuff got in his head, than 383 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: the than. 384 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 4: The calf, like I think a lot of that. 385 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if it kind of like had people 386 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: looking at him through a different lens. I guess, like, 387 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: you know, ah, the calf injury especially, I think I 388 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: think he's he can come across as a little aloof right. 389 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: Is that a fair way of putting it? I don't. 390 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: I don't think Kyle Tucker is a bad guy. I 391 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: don't think he's a clubhouse menace. I don't think he 392 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: causes problems in a clubhouse. But uh, there are ways 393 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: that you carry yourself sometimes that can be like what's 394 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: up with this guy? 395 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 4: And I think sometimes everyone guy of wonders that. 396 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: And with Kyle Tucker, what is not what you can't 397 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: deny is his impact when he's healthy. I think the 398 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: offensive impact is there. I start to wonder, how will 399 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: this guy age? 400 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 4: Like that? 401 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: I started to wonder that when we start, like the 402 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: past two years there have been injuries. Some of it 403 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: is randomness, but then some of it you wonder, like, 404 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: how is this guy going to age? His defense didn't 405 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: look as good as I expected it to look. But 406 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: his offense when he's healthy is awesome. I think there's 407 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: a fit. I think it would only be in one 408 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: of those like, hey, here's a you're not getting the 409 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: deal you want. You want a one year, you know, 410 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: a three year with opt out that obviously everyone knows 411 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: you'll opt out on a deal. 412 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: Okay, That's the only way I see a fit. 413 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: And I just have no clue why he would take 414 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: it with the Cubs, no clue why he'd come to 415 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: Wrigley to try and build his value back up. So 416 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: I just I struggle with the Kyle Tucker reunion. Like 417 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 1: I said, I think the only scenario is if somehow 418 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: he wants to come back for like the opt out 419 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: pillow type deal. 420 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've there's a reason where we put him last 421 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 2: on this kind of rundown. Here, I'm with you. I 422 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 2: think his temperament in a lot of ways is ideal 423 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 2: for a major league hitterer. I mean, Craig Counsel basically 424 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 2: said that of just being able to separate out each 425 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 2: pitch and sort of throw aside the results, that's why 426 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: it was so glaring when he started kind of you know, 427 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 2: slamming his helmet as bad and jogging down the first 428 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: and he got that you know, benching slash mental reset 429 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 2: because it was so out of character. And you know, 430 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: I think he made himself a part of the team 431 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: in a way that he didn't have to as kind 432 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: of this like one year, stopover, one and done guy 433 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 2: that you know, he does enjoy being in the clubhouse, 434 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 2: being part of the guys. But I think if if 435 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: you're talking about, you know, the what we thought was 436 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: possible going into this year, like the ten years, four 437 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: and a million dollars, I think you want a little 438 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: more from. 439 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 3: The face of the franchise. 440 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: And I think a little more certainty built in when 441 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: you start talking about some of the injuries and you know, 442 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 2: maybe the defense, you know, taking a step back, you know, 443 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: things of that nature. And look, if the Cubs are 444 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: thinking this, like, what do you think the Dodgers are thinking, Like, 445 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: do the Cubs just have like a forty five to 446 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 2: fifty million dollar hole in their budget that ownership's gonna 447 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: be like, yes, bring this guy back right now. I 448 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: have a hard time seeing it. I also think like 449 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: it could come back around for Kyle Tucker. Two of 450 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: looking like how many guys like this are out there period, 451 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: how many of them are going to be available in 452 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: the next few free agent classes. And I kind of 453 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: love the fit. If he's on a team where he 454 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: doesn't have to be the superstar and like he had to, 455 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: you know, he was at his best. It felt like 456 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: this year when Pikrow Armstrong was rolling in say a Suzuki. Now, 457 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: I think Kyle Tucker played a part in that. His 458 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: presence was a big deal. But you know, if he's 459 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: hitting in that Dodgers lineup, if he's you know, hitting 460 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: with Juan Soto, whatever the case is, I mean Toronto, 461 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: he would not be you know, the man there. Those 462 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: are the places where I think, you know, the team 463 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: would get you know, great production, great value from And 464 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 2: I'm not pretending that we know Kyle Tucker that great. 465 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: He was rarely at his locker. He's always very pleasant 466 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: whenever you talk to him. He has a very dry 467 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: sense of humor. But just our interactions over the past year, 468 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: our meaning I think most of the media group was like, 469 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 2: you know, I think he'd be fine with being more 470 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: of kind of a complementary player rather than what some 471 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: free agents want. 472 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: Right, somebody just want to be like the name on 473 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 3: the market. 474 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: And I think he's very happy to just be a 475 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 2: great baseball player and you know, kind of take care 476 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: of his stuff and and not really you know, he 477 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: doesn't want to be like an extension of the front 478 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: office or like kind of in coaches ears. It seems 479 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: like he just wants to wants to play ball. And 480 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 2: that's totally totally fine as long as long as you produce. 481 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: And he has an elite level for most of his career. 482 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 3: Yep. 483 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm just about to say, like all of that is 484 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: perfectly fine, Like there's nothing wrong with him because he's 485 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: not he's not a troublemaker. He doesn't go in there 486 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: and call like stir things up in the clubhouse and 487 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: like people like struggle to be around him or anything 488 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: like that. None of that is we've heard, none of that. 489 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: It's just, you know, go out and play. That's he's 490 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: a he's a quiet dude that just wants to go 491 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: out and play baseball. And and it's a everyone's different, 492 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: I guess. And and like you're comparing Bregman and Tucker's 493 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: personality from what we understand it would be it's a 494 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: pretty different type of clubhouse. 495 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, personality. So it I I. 496 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 1: Still think I think we've said this since we first 497 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: found out that the Cubs would be interested in Bregman. 498 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: I think it makes a lot of sense now that 499 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: you've you've done everything. I think it, you know, go 500 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: out and get the guy, Go out and get the 501 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: team leader. 502 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 4: Go out and finish this. Go out and try and 503 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 4: win a World Series. 504 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: I think we all want, like we all kind of 505 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: agree on that, like there's one final piece here missing. 506 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: Just go out and get that bat. I think that's 507 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: a lot of Cubs fans, so that'd be very happy 508 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: and after all the complaining and justified because it was 509 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: a slow offseason and took a while for them to 510 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: get that big move done, go out and finish it off, 511 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: cap off of and nice offseason, make it great and 512 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: become the favorite and maybe hopefully for them, they can 513 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: actually pull that off and and dethrow the the the Brewers. 514 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see if they can get this done. 515 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: We got Cubs Convention next weekend, so we'll be talking 516 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: about that, talking about what else the Cubs can get done, 517 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: if anything. But that's it for right now. Thanks so 518 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: much for listening to everyone. This is north Side Territory. 519 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: Make sure to rate, review, subscribe, subscribe to the YouTube channel, 520 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: and subscribe to The Athletic where Patrick and are on 521 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: top of all things Cubs, thanks so much for listening 522 00:30:35,760 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: to everyone. Do they anyone REALI