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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? Welcome back everybody to are you a

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Speaker 1: Charlotte Today? Part two of Molly Rogers and I discussing

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Speaker 1: the fashion of season three. Now I have a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a fun thing to talk about really quick.

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Speaker 1: We go to La in this season. Isn't that bizarre?

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Speaker 2: I was shocked when I saw your photos that the

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Speaker 2: la happened that early. That's what I think too, Like

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Speaker 2: I feel like we would have had would have had

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Speaker 2: to earn it like season four.

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Speaker 1: Like no, I mean we were just rolling with it

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Speaker 1: all right, Like we were just like, wooo, we're going

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Speaker 1: out and look at this crazy set about fits. This

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Speaker 1: is when Charlotte has not arrived yet, right because I'm

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Speaker 1: back there with with Trey and Kim is in like

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Speaker 1: full body blue le may. I don't know ones I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is when we're.

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Speaker 2: Going my god, do you remember that line called Mandalay

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Speaker 2: on like the seventh floor of Bloomingdale's or something. Mandalay

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Speaker 2: Oh no, that was a century Mandalay. Wow, that's today's

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Speaker 2: she moved oh shine or whatever it's called.

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Speaker 1: Sheen and Sheen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's so Mandalay is today's sheen.

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Speaker 1: Wow. And what is Sir Jessica wearing? It looks like

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Speaker 1: she's taken like a blanket or a or a branny

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Speaker 1: granny core.

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Speaker 2: That was the really dear friend of Pats called who

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Speaker 2: she who was Iranian? Who was painting Iranian women in

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Speaker 2: burka like very political, And Sarah Jessica was into it.

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Speaker 2: And she actually wore one of his vests in the

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Speaker 2: movie in Morocco. Amazing woman. Yeah, and he made this. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can see the rose and the woman. It's very

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Speaker 2: I see an old Persian image.

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Speaker 1: How beautiful.

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Speaker 2: That's when Pat wore a name necklace that said Allah

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Speaker 2: God is good. And the elevator guy was Islamic and

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Speaker 2: he's told Pat in the elevator, I'll cut your neck.

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Speaker 2: He thought that was very very.

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Speaker 1: You know, disrespectful. Listen, this is some foreshadowing here, okay,

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Speaker 1: of where we're gonna go in the second movie. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh.

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Speaker 2: I told the second ad Peter Saldo, that this man

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Speaker 2: was gonna slit Pat's throat open because of her necklace.

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Speaker 2: Peter got rid of him. And when Pat and I

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Speaker 2: got into the elevator again, the guy that was standing

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Speaker 2: there said, I'm his brother. You're very good.

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Speaker 1: It's really good. It's a really good story. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these are things that happened. Now, other important question, how

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Speaker 1: did a mass match shoes come about?

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Speaker 2: You know how you're trying you do the same thing

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Speaker 2: in your fittings. You have one on one and one

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Speaker 2: on the other, and you're like, which one did I like,

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Speaker 2: what do you think with the left? What do you

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Speaker 2: think with the right? Why do we have to choose?

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Speaker 1: That's really lovely. I love it. It's very sar Juska. It's

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Speaker 1: very sar Juska. You don't have to choose, baby, that's

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Speaker 1: what you say. You don't have to choose.

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Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I love that we got that in. There

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Speaker 2: was such a short list of things that we wanted

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Speaker 2: to get in and sometimes you got it.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, to do I'm so glad because.

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Speaker 2: That fork in the Remember the fork in Carrie's clutch bag. No,

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Speaker 2: she was like, I want to go out to dinner

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Speaker 2: and take take some silverware from the restaurant, like people,

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Speaker 2: you know, you steal the napkin from the monkey club

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Speaker 2: or whatever. So she had a see through clutch and

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Speaker 2: there was a fork in it. What you didn't know.

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Speaker 1: How did I miss this? I've got to find it.

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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna find it. Okay. Another question, important question,

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Speaker 1: the fake Fendy. Why did what? What? What were we

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine that Findy was happy with us, who

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Speaker 2: were big Findy lovers, and here we were doing the

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Speaker 2: the knockoff?

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Speaker 1: I know. But in the end, don't we don't we

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Speaker 1: come out on the side that you shouldn't buy the Knockoffs?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I.

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Speaker 1: Haven't watched it yet, you know.

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Speaker 2: Samantha is identified as she sees a girl at the

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Speaker 2: Playboy Mansion with that has stolen her Findy and the

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Speaker 2: was that got it?

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Speaker 1: Can I say? This little crochet thing that I'm wearing

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Speaker 1: I still have. It's really tiny and sometimes I go

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Speaker 1: know why I have this. Here's why I have it?

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Speaker 2: Incredible? Is that a dress?

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Speaker 1: No, it's just like a little crop top. Like my

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Speaker 1: daughter would probably love it, but I wouldn't want her

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you're wearing a crop top in the cafe

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Speaker 2: at the standard Okay.

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't know what I'm wearing on the

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Speaker 2: I'd love to see it me too.

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Speaker 1: And also you've got Kim and a visor. You know,

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Speaker 1: Pat's visor obsessed, as we.

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Speaker 2: Know, visor obsessed. Who's is that Louis Vouton?

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Speaker 1: It looks like it. Yeah, I remember she's in.

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Speaker 2: A bathing suit. You're in a bathing suit. Everybody's dressed

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Speaker 2: the cafe scene.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, Definitely, I'm gonna rewatch it to figure out what

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Speaker 1: be We're gonna be walking, We're we're walking through I

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Speaker 1: remember this too, man, this crazy outfit, I mean like

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Speaker 1: it was yesterday, right, and us in that Playboy mansion.

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Speaker 1: What a super Zorro experience.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I could not believe that we were gonna

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Speaker 2: shoot there. I have a great picture of me in

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Speaker 2: half and his three girlfriends.

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Speaker 1: Oh lord, lord, lord lord.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever go into the house where the girls

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Speaker 2: stayed and there's that whole room that's all carpet.

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Speaker 1: We had to sit in there. It was all green room.

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Speaker 2: Oh was it?

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Speaker 1: Yes? The game room? Oh yeah, and they had like

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Speaker 1: like there's like a conversation pit I use quotation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a perfect name for that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And we were kind of stressed in that room,

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Speaker 1: that I was very kind of against it all. But

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Speaker 1: I was I was like alone in it being against it.

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Speaker 1: And we know so much more now, and we know

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Speaker 1: that they weren't all thrilled. But when you were there,

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Speaker 2: No high high competitiveness. Hi, Now, what happens to you

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Speaker 1: Do you remember I haven't rewatched it, Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: You ditch him yet? You ditch him or something something

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Speaker 2: because I'm married clean.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm married and I'm having problems or.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it is, because he's adorable and you're

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Speaker 2: all excited and then I think you kick him to

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Speaker 1: My gosh, you're not thinking of my weird time that

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Speaker 1: I pretend to be twenty five in the Hamptons and

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Speaker 1: I get gloves from that guy.

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Speaker 2: No, I just watched that recently. That is a great episode.

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Speaker 1: It's so bizarre episode that episode. Oh thank you, babe.

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Speaker 1: I think I seem like I'm on acid or something

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Speaker 1: you know, it's hilarious. But I'm also wearing Shoshana. Do

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Speaker 1: you remember when Shoshana was. I don't know if she

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Speaker 1: still makes clothes, but this bikini jump is Shoshana. And

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Speaker 1: I love sho it because it fit me. It was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it had that little preppy print it often

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here, we've got the cherries.

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Speaker 3: We did?

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Speaker 1: We really did? I think I have some of those.

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Speaker 2: She had that classic halter top, yeah, ress.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I still have This is my own sorong

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Speaker 1: that I still have. And I was just so happy

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you had yeah, I remember you were

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Speaker 2: looking for something.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy that it worked out. And I think

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Speaker 1: Cynthia might have this. I don't know if she has

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Speaker 1: I don't know who made it is.

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Speaker 2: Look at those Miranda colors.

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Speaker 1: Gorgeous, so gorgeous. Everybody looked so great.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's a good one.

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Speaker 1: And the thing I remember, and I don't know what

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Speaker 2: It was cool. You knew you wanted to know what

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Speaker 2: It was such a great thing that everybody had their

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Speaker 2: You just couldn't swap them like a lot of times

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Speaker 1: That is so true. That is so true. There are

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Speaker 1: But when we're on the boat where we have just

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Speaker 1: gotten tray and I'm wearing this beautiful dulce print, like

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Speaker 2: And then uh, huh do you remember this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I remember this. This was really fun.

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Speaker 1: We're on a boat in the Hudson River and we

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Speaker 1: So it was a long day on the boat, and

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Speaker 1: Kyle was new right, like this is maybe his second episode, right,

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Speaker 1: So it was really really fun. So I'm wearing the

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Speaker 1: Stulci dress, which I think I really was so excited

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Speaker 1: that I got to have a Dulce dress, right, But

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Speaker 1: then I'm cold, So I have a pajmina, which was

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Speaker 1: not really in my life.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean pash mina is really like a thing.

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Speaker 1: There were such a thing, such such a thing, such

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Speaker 2: As she just got on a Bulgary Nazi. There that's

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Speaker 2: I'm that sounds totally correct. I am not going to

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Speaker 1: Oh thank you. You guys made it.

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Speaker 2: Not me, not me, one of us would ever pass

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Speaker 2: Everywhere? As I remember everywhere, I can't. Nothing really pops

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Speaker 2: Season three was Pat her girlfriend of I don't know

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Speaker 2: Season three, yes, no ouz. Pat decided to give a

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Speaker 2: It's fun at the setup of this structure that year.

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Speaker 2: You could still you could still have interns and not

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Speaker 2: like what's her name that everybody's in love with right now?

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Speaker 1: Oh god, I love her so much.

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Speaker 2: What's her name? Your name? I do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they feel also that they all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: Oh, after you've gotten a promotion from Bat you want

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Speaker 1: What did what did Pat say? What did Sara Jessica say?

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Speaker 2: Pat found out about the mutiny and I just don't.

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Speaker 2: It just was so awful and unpleasant, and you were

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Speaker 1: It's awful. It's awful.

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Speaker 1: Wow. I didn't even know.

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Speaker 2: And we were nervous getting Yeah, we were we were

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Speaker 2: They're not like that now, these folks.

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Speaker 1: But they're still working. Oh yeah, ooh, let me ask you.

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Speaker 2: They matured. Thank God didn't ruin them, Pat didn't bury them.

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Speaker 2: Pat was always like that in her store or anybody

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Speaker 1: Wait, clearly these people who went to Sir Jessica didn't

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Speaker 2: They they thought they were really worth. Oh, they thought

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Speaker 1: I had no idea that it was this bad. I

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Speaker 1: And I remember at the time, you know, when she

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Speaker 1: wears that green skirt that you found at Centry twenty

442
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Speaker 1: one with a little ruff on the back. I think

443
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Speaker 1: it's Westwood, right, I was like, that's weird, Like, you know, me,

444
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: my southern conservative self, I'm like that that's too much.

445
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm so stupid, right, I'm really but I would never

446
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: say that out loud, right because obviously I was like,

447
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: you guys are the masters. I don't know nothing, you know. Yeah,

448
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: I want to look back on it. It's like so

449
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: creative and amazing.

450
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 2: So get perfect to get scared by a rat in?

451
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, so perfect to get scared by a rat in?

452
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: Oh wait, your newspaper? How did this happen?

453
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 4: You know?

454
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 2: Pat was in really thick with that lovely, lovely Asian

455
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 2: girl that ran the Dior showroom, who also is the

456
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: type of person who there are no rules. What do

457
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 2: you want? Take it until you've finished shooting it. Wow,

458
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: you don't need to bring it back until you've gotten it.

459
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: On the show Nice a free for all, and John

460
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: Galliano loved this girl Nice so anytime she would ring

461
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: Paris and say send me more rings and send me

462
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: more bags, and they were on it amazing. She had

463
00:24:53,680 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 2: such good people connections there and that is where that

464
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: came from.

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Speaker 1: I love it so much, Yes, I love it so much.

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00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: It's all sale on first DIBs, I believe for two

467
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

468
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: Insane? Is this since Jenner or Tega wore it?

469
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: You think so?

470
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? Part of me, Like with Jenna Ortega, I felt like, okay,

471
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: that's homage. Like she's absolutely paying homage to carry That's

472
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Speaker 1: how I felt when I saw it. Did you not

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Speaker 1: for me?

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Speaker 2: It takes away from the importance of it when you

475
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Speaker 2: wear it for two seconds on a carpet, and then

476
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Speaker 2: that's how you like. I don't. I find that to

477
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: be so throwaway?

478
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Speaker 1: Got it?

479
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: That's just how I look at.

480
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Speaker 1: It, I know. I mean, I will say I do

481
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: think that the red carpet situation has accelerated in kind

482
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Speaker 1: of a lunatic way beyond and it is just a moment, right,

483
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: But now if you look at even just like press

484
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: tours like these, you know, gimmicky press tours are all

485
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: the rage, right with like.

486
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 2: Right, we're gonna wear tennis stuff challengers and blah blah

487
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: yeah and dune We're gonna right yeah.

488
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: Right, like it's it's it's quite something. But to me,

489
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: I think that's somewhat And tell me what you think.

490
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: Remember when we went back to work after COVID and

491
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: all of the houses were suffering, you know, suffering to

492
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: the point where they only had one set of samples.

493
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: Remember you find something they say like, oh, we can't

494
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: afford to make more than one set of samples. And

495
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: in China exactly exactly, or it was in Palm Beach

496
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: trying to be sold or whatever the heck.

497
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 2: Right, yea, And it was kind of scary.

498
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: Like I really felt like, well, that whole beautiful part

499
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: of the industry is at risk, right, So I feel

500
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: like they had to try to find a way. And

501
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: the way was, who can we get on the carpet

502
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: wearing you know the latest thing or you know whatever,

503
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: and then I feel like, really creative stylus is like law,

504
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, have gone to the vintage, which you know,

505
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 1: we know has always been a Trevor trove of beauty

506
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: and genius.

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00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 2: Right right, And they're really harvesting the vintage, which is

508
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: also kind of concerning in a way. But what also

509
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: is happening, Kristen is when I, let's say, I want

510
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: to borrow the Valentino red gown while I'm doing a

511
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: speaking engagement that Nicole ri Parker wore a Cross Park Avenue. Yeah,

512
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: a lot of houses are saying, no, we're not loaning

513
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: anything that hasn't been done by the current designer.

514
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because they've all changed designers.

515
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: It's such gotten very very narrow as to they don't promote,

516
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: they don't want to promote like the image of the house.

517
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 2: It's all about the current creative director.

518
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: Well then that's just interesting. It is interesting, And that's

519
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: why I think vintage is actually important because that's a

520
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: way for you to say, well, you know, we we

521
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: like to honor this person or you know what I'm

522
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: trying to say, like you know, because you can't all

523
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: have it be there's not enough to go around of

524
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: last the last show, you know.

525
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: In no way and to remain nameless. But a very

526
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: very huge, popular fashion show happened just a little bit ago,

527
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: and I was told, make sure you text me backstage

528
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: as the piece is walking. Wow, because when that show's over,

529
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: the stuff is spoken.

530
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: For good Lord, that's crazy. And did you get what

531
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: you wanted for what you need?

532
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: Ma'am oh no, ma'am oh no, No, it was like, no, no,

533
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: that's going to can wow.

534
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: You know.

535
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: No, it's very intense. It's very intense. That's why I

536
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: don't even go well, I don't even want to go

537
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: to events. Oh, let's talk about Richard Tyler for a second,

538
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 1: because I don't think that people know who Richard Tyler is.

539
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: No, it'sn't that something like I don't know how successful

540
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: he ever got. But he was a big name in LA.

541
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,479
Speaker 1: And he was a big name for us because Carrie

542
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: wore him, and then I ended up wearing him to

543
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: our very first Golden Globes because I didn't have a

544
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: stylist and he's here in LA and he had a

545
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,239
Speaker 1: shop on Melrose and I went in and tried on

546
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: things that were like in the store, you know what

547
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: I mean. So I go to the Golden Globes and

548
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: there's another woman at the Golden Globes wearing my same

549
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: dress because it was from the store, and she just

550
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: bought it, like no offense to her obviously, you know

551
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I think we just kind of

552
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: waved at each other like sheepishly, you know what I'm saying.

553
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: We didn't take a picture like how you would do now, right,

554
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: but we were kind of like HI saying. But he

555
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: was the nicest, nicest man, and such a brilliant tailor,

556
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: Like such a brilliant tailor. And I remember, Sir Jessica wore.

557
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: Him to.

558
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: An awards thing, yeah, like when she won maybe the

559
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: Golden Globes the next year, and I also wore him,

560
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: but I can't remember which one it was. Maybe it

561
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: was this red dress, maybe it was the first Golden Globes.

562
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: And I remember going to return my dress and she

563
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: had been so nervous. You know, she loves her perfume.

564
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: Obviously she'd sprayed her whole dress with perfume because that's

565
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: what she does when she's nervous. When I walked in

566
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: the store. The whole store smelled like Sarajuska amazing. Yeah.

567
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that she's always a good way.

568
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's really good with her sense exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

570
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: But this dress. Isn't it true that you only had

571
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: one and they fall in the fond? Knew you had more?

572
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: Okay, there were three?

573
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: Oh three?

574
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: Actually beautiful.

575
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Speaker 4: You know you never have to you never ever have

576
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 4: to use it because you know what stops them from

577
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 4: resetting the hair and makeup are gonna say it's gonna

578
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 4: take us two hours, and so they're like, no, we're

579
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 4: getting it in one because they would never.

580
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: Wait, they would never But also they were brilliant in

581
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: that one day they didn't need to be doing anything.

582
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, that was so great.

583
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: I mean that's the remember that.

584
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: Day like yesterday too. This three is really coming up.

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00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: It's a lot up.

586
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: I know.

587
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: Season three is a lot And what do you remember

588
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: about it? I remember the fear of her getting getting

589
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: cut in the water and than pointing hydrogen peroxides.

590
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember them giving them ear plugs so they

591
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: didn't get any bacteria coming through their orifices. O.

592
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: Wow, that's buddy.

593
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: I love it.

594
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: I love it.

595
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: I love it.

596
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: This reminds me of a different really great product, sorry

597
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 1: not product Charlotte dress that I remember complaining about.

598
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: What were you complaining about this?

599
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: I was complaining because I pass got me. I know,

600
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. I should have kept my little mouth shut.

601
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: Pat's got a big, long ponytail. I think this is

602
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: also when she was loving for those short bangs, right,

603
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: which of course I said no to. But the thing

604
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: that I think of when I look at this outfit,

605
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: this is in the gallery and it's one of those

606
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: ones where all of us are together and Willie's there,

607
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: and it's a great lineup of outfits. I'm going to

608
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: find the picture in a second. But the thing that

609
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: I think about this one. First of all, it's a

610
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: great shape. I love the whole thing. Now when I

611
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: look at it, I think I felt insecure. And I'm

612
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: wearing hoop ear rings, which you know Pat made me

613
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: do because I don't ever wear hoop earrings like this. No,

614
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: but I love it. I love it, And she made

615
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: me wear this whole long fake ponytail. And I remember

616
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: saying like Charlotte wouldn't do this, no, no, no, But it

617
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: looks fantastic.

618
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: I was so silly, it does. I love, love, love

619
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: this dress on you. I mean, what a gallerina.

620
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: I know, it's so good, it's so good. I don't

621
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: know where the group photo is, but do you remember

622
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: the group photo. It's one they use a lot, you know,

623
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: like in retrospect.

624
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: Remember it.

625
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know where it went.

626
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: I remember. It's good.

627
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: It's good.

628
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: It's also like an iconic lineup of you guys. It

629
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: is everybody's in their style lane.

630
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: Everyone's in their style lane, and it's beautifully are directed

631
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: in terms of how we all go together by you guys,

632
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, which, you know. I don't think people realize

633
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: how hard that is and how much added work that

634
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: is in a way that I think people are just

635
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: watching the show and just thinking that it just happens

636
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: or whatever, right, I mean, right, yeah, it's tough. You

637
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: got to, Like I remember, you guys. You know, we

638
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: would have like three or four fittings or whatever, just

639
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: because you know, we had to fine tune, or we

640
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: might have to change something based on what someone else

641
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: is wearing, or you know.

642
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: I can't believe you guys gave us that much time.

643
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: Oh we did. I do remember.

644
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: It's incredible.

645
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: It is incredible. And one time I did get in

646
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: some serious trouble because we were at Silver Cup and

647
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: it was one of those times when I was supposed

648
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: to go to a fitting after work, but I got

649
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: done with work at two in the morning, and I

650
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: assumed I was going to go home, and they were like, oh, no, no,

651
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: you have to go to costume now. And I was like,

652
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: it's two in the morning.

653
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 2: Now, we were waiting for you.

654
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: You were there waiting for me, and I was like,

655
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: you got you And I was like, you guys, it's

656
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: like sole lt do I have to go? And then

657
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: word got around to certain people that I had complained

658
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: and I was in the doghouse. I was seriously in

659
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: the doghouse for like a week. I know, I know,

660
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: but I.

661
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: Was like, we didn't want you when you were exhausted.

662
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: We didn't want you to come in and not be

663
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: able to pull stuff over your You know, that was

664
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: bad for everybody.

665
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: It was, but we didn't really have a chance. We

666
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: didn't have a chance. We didn't have options.

667
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: You know, if you were working every day in that episode, no.

668
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: No, oh, you wrote I want to ask you about

669
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: this outfit. I love this outfit. There's a lot of

670
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: three Season three. What I was going to say about

671
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: season three that I remember, I did not know about

672
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: how much drama you guys were going through. I remember

673
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: that it was like so much storyline for me, right,

674
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: like Charlotte had never had this big of a storyline,

675
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: like the whole tray thing. And it was also like

676
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: just such a glorious, intense summer. I barely remember what

677
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: was going on in the bigger picture. I just remember

678
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: being just so excited about my own stuff and just

679
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: trying to get through it or do it well or

680
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: you don't. I'm saying, like, like I kind of tuned

681
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: out a lot. It was very focused, but it was

682
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: real I had to for sure, and it was they

683
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: were asking more of me, so I was, you know,

684
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: trying to make sure I gave it well. But when

685
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: I did rewatch, it was fun because I didn't remember

686
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: a lot of other people's storylines. Like I didn't remember

687
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 1: like when Carrie and Agent start dating me, he won't

688
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: have sex with her. She wears this and it's like

689
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: cut on this. Oh, it's incredible and it's embroidered like hand,

690
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: and I don't know who made this thing? But it

691
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: is so good. It is so good.

692
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: I looked at that when you sent that picture and

693
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: I was like micro micro mini on Carrie, Big.

694
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: Time is because she's trying to get him to have

695
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: sex with her and he won't have sex with her,

696
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: that crazy man. And they make out in the doorway

697
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: and it's very hot wow. And then he leaves and

698
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: it gets her. She's so confused, like what am I

699
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 1: doing wrong? What is going on? And he says, he said,

700
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: d'ft this crazy speech he gives her, like, you know, Carrie,

701
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: I just want to you know, I've done it. I've

702
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: done sex quickly and you know how he talks like

703
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: kind of slow back. Then Yeah, I just want to

704
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: make sure you know that I, you know, feel something

705
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: for you and I feel like you're someone I could

706
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: care about, he says, and she's like, okay, like it's

707
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: pretty pretty odd. Wow, I know I.

708
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: Don't remember that part.

709
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: Oh do you remember the opera? I do, actually gorgeous.

710
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: I killed myself to get you Geel's opera glasses.

711
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: I remember that and they were good because that was

712
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: part of the plot. She had to see Big and

713
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: Natasha thinlasses and they were beautiful, vintage, like the mother

714
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: of Pearl.

715
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: Remember what you were wearing? Yeah, so classic, Charlotte.

716
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a Chanell like short kind of corset chaffon

717
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: thing that I still own that I love very much.

718
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: And I do think that you actually got me in

719
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: an actual fur. I'm very sorry everyone who loves animals.

720
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: I do believe I'm wearing an actual fur. It was

721
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: very hard to say no again to Pat. But it

722
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: does look beautiful.

723
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: That was vintage.

724
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: It does look vintage. It's very very old fashioned. And

725
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: then this, I think is Doulce Sarah's beautiful dress. It's

726
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: so hard.

727
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 2: I remember that I could be wrong. We can, somebody

728
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 2: can tell us. But I remember we went through an

729
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: animal and Nari face with.

730
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: Yes because she wore Animinal mullinary to the Emmys, that

731
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: yellow dress. Do you remember the yellow beaded like bugle bes.

732
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: No.

733
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: Yes, the first time we go to the Emmy, Sarah

734
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: is wearing animalulinary and everybody was like.

735
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: Who but that actually looks like it does have a

736
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: Dulce bra, doesn't.

737
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: It It does. I feel like it's Dulce. But I

738
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: really could be wrong. I really could be wrong. I

739
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: love animal I just.

740
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: Love that I pulled that name up.

741
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: You did, you did well, You did really well. My

742
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: producers love this picture of Miranda, which I think is

743
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: so hysterical because she has a scarf tied around her

744
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: neck and what does that make you think of Molly?

745
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: Well, between this scarf around her neck and that hairdo.

746
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: Who is she?

747
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: I don't know?

748
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: She could have played Charlotte. And then just like that,

749
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: because remember my scarf storylines that we got rid of

750
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: the story. This is the pretend story. It's your absolute Yes,

751
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: she wears this scarf and then she still has it

752
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: on when they have sex, when she's pretending to be

753
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: the shortest and she's got some crazy hair. This is

754
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: what it is. You're so smart that you pulled that out.

755
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is a good shot of the

756
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: Bulgary necklace. I remember the Bulgary. Weren't there relatives of

757
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: this necklace?

758
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? I believe so.

759
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: Like she had a bunch and they were like very

760
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: we were very excited that we got a hold of them.

761
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 2: It's like finding jewelry for four distinct characters was always

762
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: such pain.

763
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but then think about like when we

764
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: didn't just like that, Oh my gosh, the embarrassment of riches.

765
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: I mean god, there was just the plethora.

766
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: It was incredible.

767
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: The Jewelry game is like the Beauty Game, now a

768
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: whole different story.

769
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: It is a totally different story, and a good one. Wait,

770
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: this is my all time favorite outfit. I so forgot

771
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: about this.

772
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: I love, oh my, this is diabolical.

773
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: It happen. I love the hair, I love all of it.

774
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: How did the tights happen with the jeans skirt?

775
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: I'm sure that looks like a Rebecca move.

776
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: Wow.

777
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that looks like something Rebecca would be into.

778
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, let's do it.

779
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: You did a belt around your You did a belt

780
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: around your waist walking down the street. Let's do this.

781
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 2: That's what people do with their pantyhose.

782
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: I don't remember this at all at the time. I

783
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: think it's really funny.

784
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: She has an open toad shoe on with stockings. This

785
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: is like, whatever rule there is, we're gonna break it.

786
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think that's where I like a diabolical

787
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: But she looks fantastic. So who cares people who dress

788
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: up like this for Halloween?

789
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 2: Oh my god, a shiny brawl like that, she wouldn't.

790
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: Be I mean, I know, can you imagine it's like

791
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: a Victory's secret brought? Like what on earth? Like we

792
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: lost our minds a little bit in this season, you know, yeah,

793
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: but in the best possible way. Look, here's the bulvery

794
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: necklace again with the DVF. We've got a lot of

795
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: Sarah and DVF carry carries in a lot of DVF

796
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: this season.

797
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, that's I mean, I can see how I

798
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: mean that that holds up, doesn't it?

799
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so amazing dress. And also like

800
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: DVF for the show, so perfect in terms of who

801
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: she is and who she designed for.

802
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: Right, look at Miranda's work.

803
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: Look, this is a good Miranda's work. Look really good.

804
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: It's really really good. This is when I think she's

805
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: talking about how Steve is a child. I could be wrong,

806
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: but Steve is around, you know, looking adorable, but also

807
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: acting very very childish occasionally, which is also pretty funny,

808
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: pretty funny. Okay, wait, now I'm getting to episodes that

809
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: I haven't rewatched yet.

810
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, where are you what are you looking at?

811
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm I've got this one picture of Carrie. I don't

812
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: have any idea what the heck, she's wearing here.

813
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 2: That was some maybe related to the Iranian oh Nito.

814
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: Possibly incredible incredible.

815
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: Look her d string showing.

816
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: Ooh, this is so nineties. The thing that I think

817
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: of here when I look at Samantha, because she's in

818
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: all one color and then she's got like a it

819
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: looks like a I don't know what bag it is,

820
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 1: maybe of Bhutan or whatever, but it's starting her. Remember

821
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: how eventually she would be wearing head to toe logos

822
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: really Oh yeah, like I feel like Celene maybe or

823
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: something Uchi maybe. I mean at a certain point, man.

824
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: And I wonder what people are going to say about

825
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: that when we get back through it.

826
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: It was a label on Label Crime.

827
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: I know, label and La Crime. But she could pull

828
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: it off, you know, she could pull it off. And

829
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: it kind of made sense, you know what I was

830
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: thinking about too, you know what I think that people.

831
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if people still know this or not

832
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: about and just like that, because I just saw because

833
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: I talk about this now and so my Instagram is

834
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: all full of this, right and I saw this really

835
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: adorable kind of template of Carrie in and just like that,

836
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: it was like four outfits and the hat is there

837
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: the Holly Hobby hat, and they were I don't know

838
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: if they were all from the last season. They might

839
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: have been all over the place. But I don't know

840
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: if people realize what you guys were doing with her

841
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: silhouette and her overall look in the final season.

842
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 2: Right, I don't think that translated that she was writing

843
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: that book and it was influencing her silhouette, right choice,

844
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: because it was kind of seeping into her. But it

845
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 2: was fun.

846
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: Wasn't that fun? But this is what I think about it.

847
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: People might not realize it intellectually because I didn't even

848
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: realize it intellectually until the cat dress that she wears

849
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: to my birthday party at her house, because it had

850
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: that bustle and I had seen it upstairs. Because you

851
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: guys had to really remake that dress, Like you had

852
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: to work for a while on that dress.

853
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, we did, right?

854
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, what is going on here? And

855
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, my god, is because of

856
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: the book she's reliving. She's living in this old, you know,

857
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: historical brownstone in Gramercy. She's writing a book about a

858
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: woman going through the turn of the century and those

859
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: different things, and her silhouette is changing as a result

860
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: of this, and that is brilliant right that.

861
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: I want to tell you a little story about that

862
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 2: dress really quickly. That fabric is beyond belief. Up close

863
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 2: it is metallic thread. It is stunning. And to even

864
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: chop something on that dress to make it different in

865
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: the front was wrecking my nerve. Then I didn't quite

866
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: think we had nailed it. We sent Sja seven pictures

867
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: of what the top could look like. It could be

868
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: rooshed here, it could go here, it could do that. Okay,

869
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: she chose one, and so we did it. I would

870
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: say two months ago. I ran into the girl that

871
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: showed it, that sold it to us in London, and

872
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: she said, oh, I noticed you cut the cat's ears

873
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: off on the sleeves. Oh no, it had little tabs

874
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 2: here on this I she goes, those were the cat ears?

875
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: Oh who knew? Oh no, well, listen, I think it.

876
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 2: Was such a little peap tail.

877
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, sad about the cartiers, but yeah.

878
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: To touch that fabric was so frightened.

879
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: But like, how old was it?

880
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: I have no idea anything about it. We were mesmerized

881
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: by the fabric. Adrian didn't have enough fabric to do

882
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: one of the alts on it. We sent a scrap

883
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: of it. Someone tried to recreate it and you can't

884
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: tell it on the dress. There's a piece of fake

885
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 2: cat fabric in there.

886
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: Amazing. So you bought it in London at a vintage place.

887
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: But we don't know the.

888
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: Actual fabulous No, I don't know its provenance, but I

889
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: should find out because that was it made us cat crazy.

890
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: First of all, we were such I don't know, that's

891
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: season three. We were crazy for cats. You know, we

892
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: had them all on the pillows in her we went.

893
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: I love it because she had a cat too, and

894
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: or Loo, Yes, in real life, I love it. I

895
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: love all those details. And I mean, I think it's

896
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: interesting because on the one hand, everything is nitpicked and

897
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 1: you know, analyzed, as we were saying. But then sometimes

898
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: there's a bigger picture thing that is sure seen.

899
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 2: Right the story which Michael Patrick always accuses me of

900
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: not reading.

901
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 1: No, you were always reading and doing your own version

902
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: of it. And and that's where sir Jessica, you know,

903
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: really like connects with you about the bigger picture. You

904
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: know what's happening in the bigger picture, underneath what might

905
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: be obvious.

906
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's just the lifetime thrill to shop for you,

907
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: for you all. I mean, honestly, it really is the

908
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: special moment in time.

909
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: It is, isn't it. And you know what I really loved,

910
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: and my publicist also really loves the little show that

911
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: you guys made, you and Danny where you go shopping

912
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: around town.

913
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys watched it.

914
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: It was called what was it called Get the Look

915
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: or something like this.

916
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: I don't, yeah, something like that with Genesis the car.

917
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: Yes, and those are some nice cars. And I remember

918
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: when you were like, I don't know what's happening, and

919
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna drive around.

920
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: Right we were kind of having to simulate each episode

921
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: shopping for it. I didn't I don't know if we

922
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 2: pulled it all or nothing.

923
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: I totally did you know what you did? You can listen.

924
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: I know the truth is maybe not that mare glamorous, right,

925
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: like not possibly that glamorous. But on the other hand,

926
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: people really don't understand what you guys do, right, And

927
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: you have to go to jewelry shops and you have

928
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: to go out to Brooklyn to like, you know, find

929
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: like I remember one time you're really looking for some gloves.

930
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: I think and you had to go like far, you know,

931
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: like you're always on the search. So what whether it

932
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: was like completely one accurate or not. I think it

933
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: was a really lovely kind of like bird's eye view

934
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: of Oh what do they do?

935
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: What it takes? Yeah, the treasure hunt.

936
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: And you know what else I wish we had footage

937
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: of or more footage of, because I'm sure there's some

938
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: footage of when you would come in. So every day

939
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: when we would have had our fittings, probably more than one.

940
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you would have a fitting like let's

941
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: say it was my birthday dress. Right, we knew that

942
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: was coming, We had idea. Maybe that wasn't what Michael

943
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: Patrick saw. We had a process right, and we won,

944
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: which was super exciting. I love that dress so much.

945
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: It worked out, but like that will be over time,

946
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 1: that will be each fitting will revisit that dress right,

947
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: and then we'll think about accessories, shoes, jewelry, hair, tiara,

948
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So it's a process. And then on

949
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: the day of the first time you're putting on an outfit,

950
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: they'll call Molly and Danny to come make sure everything's perfect.

951
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: So maybe you might have jewelry choices that weren't totally

952
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: decided yeah, right, or maybe they hadn't come yet, right,

953
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: Like we might have gotten more jewelry like for Lighton's

954
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: than something really special that you picked out in advance,

955
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: and we have to look at it and so they'll

956
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: come that morning. It's it's much more involved than I think.

957
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: I think people think that we have one fitting and

958
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: everything gets said and then they just hang it in

959
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: your room. And it's not that, at least not with us.

960
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: Right until it goes to camera, we still have the

961
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: opportunity to make it just one more I remember us

962
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: waiting and waiting and waiting for the perfect pink shoe

963
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: to land for that. I don't know that we were

964
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 2: hat We were waiting and waiting what else is going

965
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: to come?

966
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: It's true, It's true. That was a hard one. That

967
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 1: was one of those scenes too, where you don't even

968
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you ever seen my shoes. That doesn't

969
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: matter to your rest? Does it matter to you? I know,

970
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: I love it. It's living in my closet, in that

971
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: really lovely box. Yeah of course. Okay, good, let's talk

972
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: about Alanis too. Do you remember anything about Alanis? This

973
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: is when Carrie's wearing like gold boots and just to

974
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: walk up this long stairwell to the like cool twenty

975
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: something party, which is a very The whole episode is

976
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: so prescient and could literally err today totally boy girl,

977
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: boy girl.

978
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 2: It's called oh yeah, now, that dress was Plether. It

979
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 2: was highly highly flammable. It was purchased on probably fourteenth Street. Wow,

980
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 2: it was scary, some kind of oleomargarine fabric, god only knows.

981
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: And we stuck a flower on it.

982
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 1: Amazing, it works.

983
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: Imagine s J even she must have been horrified to

984
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: wear that thing. It was so short. She looks fantastic,

985
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: she looks really like a well because.

986
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: She's dating that younger boy. You know, it looks like.

987
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: A little story point. You're wearing something, you know.

988
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: Yep, And didn't you have like a little damber jacket

989
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: over it at one point in the stairwell?

990
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: I think maybe, yeah, it was.

991
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: It was pretty cute and very now like very now.

992
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 2: Like plether from some rock let's say, trash in Vaudeville

993
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: or somewhere. I love that thing like that.

994
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: I love it so so so much. Oh my god,

995
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: that's a good one. There's so many good ones. You know,

996
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: we should touch really quick if you don't mind her

997
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: crazy outfit on the roof. Remember she's got like flesh

998
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: colored fish nets, Yeah, which I remember we were very

999
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: obsessed with at the time.

1000
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pat was, you guys were. And I'll never forget

1001
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: the shoe. It was a kind of a Wizard of

1002
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: Oz Dorothy. You look like you could do that a

1003
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: tap dance in them. And they were Sonia Riquiel and

1004
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 2: they were bizarre with that Louis Vouton.

1005
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 1: They were not I don't remember this Sonia Raquel made shoes.

1006
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: You know.

1007
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: Sarah and I both have those bags. And that's just

1008
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: me fully copying Sonia Raquel or copying Sir Jesska that

1009
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: she has it, because I didn't know who that was.

1010
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: That's such a great bag.

1011
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: I love that bag so much. It will live forever.

1012
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: I keep it in the special place. I love it all.

1013
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: And then and then Kim is wearing her her Marianne

1014
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: outfit and she looks fantastic. I'm wearing my Kovali.

1015
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: What look at Kim's hairstyle.

1016
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 1: I know it's hysterical, but it looks great. I love

1017
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: it so much, too, little ponytails. It's super cute. I know,

1018
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 1: I don't care. I think it's great. And it's almost

1019
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: like Carrie might have an orchid on, and you know

1020
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: she's anti orchid, which is kind of funny, but it's

1021
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: not her normal flower.

1022
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay.

1023
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: And then Mianda's got like a like a picnic table looking.

1024
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: That looks so vintage, doesn't it. Yeah, what have you

1025
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: got on?

1026
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: I've got on the Kovali tiny top that I have

1027
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: here and some no name like like the gap the

1028
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: gap skirt or whatever that's too short. So I literally

1029
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm literally in the scene pulling my skirt down,

1030
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: like the one time that I'm on the chair by myself,

1031
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: and you can just tell him just dying, just dying

1032
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: that Pat's trying to show my.

1033
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: Legs wiggling and going crazy.

1034
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: Exactly and just trying not to have to move.

1035
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: What a hot, hot day that was.

1036
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: It was a hot, hot day. And I don't know

1037
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: how I walked around that day. I don't know what

1038
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: I did with myself. I might have covered myself up

1039
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know. I don't know.

1040
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: I loved every outfit, thank.

1041
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: You, Patricia. Right, that's right, Patty Pooh. I might put

1042
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: that old picture of YouTube up too on the Instagram.

1043
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: I love that picture that you sent me. And remember

1044
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: that one when I said, look for your old pictures. Oh,

1045
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: it's really cute. It's so cute, it's so cute. It's

1046
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: really good.

1047
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: There's not many of us.

1048
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: No, I know, it's hard because you guys were always working,

1049
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, you were never holding still to get a photo.

1050
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 2: What a fun time. I'm so glad we got to

1051
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 2: talk about it.

1052
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 4: La.

1053
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: I know me too. I have fue go go go relax.

1054
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: Happy holidays, Happy holidays, baby,