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Speaker 1: The burning questions continue. First one's a good one, because

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Speaker 1: it's a tough one. Literally, bang, guys, which team is

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Speaker 6: I'll kick us off here. It's got to be the

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Speaker 6: Houston Rockets. I mean, what a crazy experiment they're going

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Speaker 6: that works in the long run, because we know that

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Speaker 6: they've both been in this situation where they get their

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Speaker 6: The Rockets wanted to move on from Chris Paul. It

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Speaker 1: Hey, why do you think though a best case scenario

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Speaker 3: They don't have the Warriors. I don't think they get

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Speaker 3: Whether or not they can win a title, that's a

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Speaker 3: fair question. Who the heck knows. But Harden worked with

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Speaker 3: Whether Westbrook is good at this point of his career,

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Speaker 3: But I don't think will they work is I don't

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Speaker 7: He's ready to rub it in your face, Lee, he said,

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Speaker 7: people said I was the most selfish player in the league.

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Speaker 7: So I led the league in the cists three times.

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Speaker 7: Now they say I'm a bad three point shooter. I'm

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Speaker 6: The I'm doubting his ability to shoot the three pointer?

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Speaker 6: To rub it in my face. Look, if he was

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Speaker 6: I'm not a great shooter. He's great when he's cutting

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Speaker 3: It, that's totally fair. I did like Russell Westbrook in

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Speaker 3: You could definitely see Russell Westbrook going into the post

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Speaker 3: seat by saying I'm not the number one guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: The rockets issue is not going to be in my opinion, like, really,

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Speaker 1: be able to stop anyone? And because they don't have,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, the deepest bench here going. They've got great,

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Speaker 1: to just get enough stops defensively to win some game,

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Speaker 1: especially when you get into a playoffs series. They have

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Speaker 1: Harden and they have Westbrook. They're like to me, they're like,

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Speaker 1: do it as a big problem, yeah, exactly. Now they

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Speaker 1: like like Chandler's there, Maclamore, Cephalosha, you know, like okay,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ryan's back.

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Speaker 7: It's the classic Rockets move of We're just gonna get

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Speaker 7: a bunch of guys, hopefully a couple of them stick.

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Speaker 7: Because right now, if you're going down to crunch time,

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Speaker 7: you're probably playing Westbrook, Harden and Eric Gordon.

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Speaker 2: That's going to be tough to stop people.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, if you got three guys that are about six

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Speaker 7: I agree with you that they're going to be impossible

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Speaker 7: to look like on the court, what it's going to

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Speaker 7: There were questions when Chris Paul came in, but at

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Speaker 7: least Paul and Harden were similar players. They both like

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Speaker 7: to run, pick and roll, get their mismatch, dribble fifty

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Speaker 7: for them or somebody on their team. Westbrook and Harden

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Speaker 7: have such diverse styles that it's just impossible to imagine

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Speaker 1: Or you can compel us.

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Speaker 6: And that's what the Rockets have done over the last

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Speaker 6: Feels like with D'Antoni, they're just whiting for a reason

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, this is the window for the Rockets.

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Speaker 3: It sure feels like you guys.

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Speaker 1: Have now done it twice here, Like you keep saying

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Speaker 6: It's just been such a big issue. It's had such

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Speaker 3: Big, big I think there's just a lot of question.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's now recently said like, yeah, I'm just straight

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Speaker 3: I don't think Harden doesn't mind if we flashed back

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Speaker 3: big problem. They lost Andre Goodal, lose Klay Thompson the

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Speaker 3: I think they should win that. They should win enough games,

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Speaker 7: You mean you think it will make them enough enough

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Speaker 2: I would I would agree with that.

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Speaker 7: If he comes back and he's Clay immediately, you got

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Speaker 7: If Draymond is able to be the minus twenty three

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Speaker 7: There are questions to be answered, but I would lean

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Speaker 1: Right, they're much more difficult to predict than they have

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Speaker 3: a couple. They've got guys who could do it, him

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Speaker 3: and Stephan Deangel primarily, you know, starting the offense. They

436
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Speaker 3: said they've learned in camp. Hey, it's your turn, pay

437
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:11,920
Speaker 3: it's my turn to bring.

438
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Speaker 2: Up the ball.

439
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,879
Speaker 3: Whoever's closest to the ball. When there's a rebound, you

440
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Speaker 3: bring it up. And so I don't know. I think

441
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Speaker 3: it's going to be a pretty diverse attack, but it's

442
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Speaker 3: the tough West. It's totally true.

443
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Speaker 1: Any other teams in the mix, or you guys are

444
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Speaker 1: really really truly focusing on the rockets anyone else.

445
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Speaker 7: Those are definitely the biggest question marks. I have another

446
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Speaker 7: one I would be a little just up in the air,

447
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,920
Speaker 7: is what's going on with the Pacers. It's going to

448
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,879
Speaker 7: take a while to get Victor Oladipo back, and he

449
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 7: is their offense for the most part. He is their

450
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Speaker 7: most important offensive player. He gives them high variants. He's

451
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Speaker 7: the only guy you're really scared of having the ball.

452
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Speaker 7: They're going to be playing two big guys together a lot,

453
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Speaker 7: Miles Turner and Demanta Sabonis. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

454
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Speaker 7: As we saw over the summer with Team USA, Miles

455
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Speaker 7: Turner not the most natural playmaker, so if he's your

456
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Speaker 7: number one option for the first two and a half

457
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Speaker 7: months of the season, that could spell trouble for the Pacers.

458
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Speaker 7: But they added Malcolm Brogden will be a solid player

459
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Speaker 7: for him will help them get into their offense and

460
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 7: the right guys will be getting shots. Surely, it'll be

461
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Speaker 7: more of an everybody eats scenario for the Pacers until

462
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Speaker 7: Oladipot comes back. But they're gonna be relying on TJ.

463
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Speaker 7: Warren on the wings. He's not a great outside shooter,

464
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Speaker 7: had a good year last year, but he's more of

465
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Speaker 7: a floater guy. So they got three guys in uh TJ. Warren,

466
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Speaker 7: Turner and Sibonis who thrive inside. That can be a

467
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Speaker 7: recipe for disaster. And you know, if Oladipo comes back

468
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Speaker 7: whenever he comes back in January and he's hobbled trying

469
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Speaker 7: to recover from his quad ten and injury, which would

470
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Speaker 7: certainly be possible a possibility, they could struggle. They could

471
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Speaker 7: just never really find their rhythm until perhaps next season

472
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Speaker 7: when an Oladipo has had an entire year to heal

473
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Speaker 7: and get an entire summer of training camp and getting ready, getting.

474
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Speaker 2: His body ready.

475
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Speaker 7: I'm not I'm not very high on the Pacers right now,

476
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Speaker 7: just because there's a lot of unanswered questions.

477
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Speaker 1: But Vegas sort of, Vegas sort of is high on

478
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Speaker 1: the Pacers. I'm glad you brought them up because they

479
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Speaker 1: won forty eight games last year. They got you know,

480
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Speaker 1: bounce in the first round. I got swept by the Celtics.

481
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Speaker 1: But I think they're over under like this season and

482
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Speaker 1: is around that mark again, Like that is a bit shocking.

483
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Trey, and like, like their identity was

484
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Speaker 1: defense last year and they're the third best defensive rating

485
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Speaker 1: in the league. But they lost some pieces that helped

486
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Speaker 1: for that. I mean that he is young, and even

487
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Speaker 1: like Corey Joseph off the bench and stuff like are

488
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Speaker 1: they gonna Begovic is gone.

489
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Speaker 7: There's a lot of a lot of turnover for a

490
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Speaker 7: Pacers team that it seems like, oh they got Oladipo,

491
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Speaker 7: Turner and Sabona's coming back. You think it's the same team,

492
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Speaker 7: but a lot has changed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that's I'm with you on one. It

494
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Speaker 1: seems like an under. But then I'm like, what am

495
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Speaker 1: I missing here?

496
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Speaker 3: Because I health for sure.

497
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right.

498
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Speaker 6: They've got three tjs and a CJ on that rosta

499
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Speaker 6: tjarn TJ Leaf, TJ McConnell, c J Wilcox. Wow, imagine

500
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Speaker 6: it practice CJ. I mean DJ which one? Ah, yeah,

501
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Speaker 6: what up?

502
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Speaker 1: Let me, let me, let me jump in with a

503
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Speaker 1: little team practice.

504
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the New Orleans Pocket think about this starting lineup

505
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Speaker 3: because it's sexy. Drew Holliday leading the way, a point

506
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Speaker 3: Lonzo Ball playing beside him, Zion at the four, Derek Favors,

507
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Speaker 3: who was miscast as a four in Utah, will be

508
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Speaker 3: starting at the five, and then your fifth starter is

509
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Speaker 3: either JJ Reddick or Brandon Ingram. That's a heck of

510
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Speaker 3: a starting five. And then you're six man plus Josh

511
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Speaker 3: Hart coming off the bench, plus plus Canadian Nikhil Alexander

512
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Speaker 3: Walker coming off the bench, who looks great. Etwine war

513
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Speaker 3: Julia Local four learned how to sleep this offseason. Apparently

514
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Speaker 3: he started, he learned he had sleep apnea.

515
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Speaker 1: Getting better to lie down.

516
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Speaker 3: I just think, you know, with a locker room can

517
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Speaker 3: come together with great guys like Drew Holliday, JJ Reddick

518
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Speaker 3: and Zion leading it. I'm already calling Zion a great

519
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Speaker 3: locker room guy because he sure feels like he is.

520
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Speaker 3: Those guys can could come together quickly and they could

521
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Speaker 3: be really good. They could also fall apart and not

522
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Speaker 3: be that great, depending on what you get from the

523
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Speaker 3: former Lakers there. But uh, there's there's so much talent

524
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Speaker 3: on that roster. I feel like they could jump into

525
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Speaker 3: the playoffs and not look back right at the beginning

526
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Speaker 3: of the season.

527
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Speaker 1: Right, so tough to predict. And again the sense of like, yeah,

528
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Speaker 1: they could win, you know, thirty five forty games or

529
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Speaker 1: be closer to a fifty win team like we were

530
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Speaker 1: talking about when I was trying to make the case

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Speaker 1: for Zion for MVP at plus ten thousand. Sprinkle a

532
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Speaker 1: little bit on that. No, I'm with you on that too,

533
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Speaker 1: because they do look good on paper. They look like

534
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Speaker 1: a deep team. It looks like it could be a

535
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Speaker 1: fun team to watch as well, but it is so

536
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Speaker 1: like you gotta it's one thing to again see it

537
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Speaker 1: on paper and have it actually come to fruition there

538
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Speaker 1: on the court. That's a good one.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the next question here, switching conferences, because

541
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Speaker 1: we were really for the most part, that's what the

542
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Speaker 1: Pacers are focusing on the West. Guys. Who is the

543
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Speaker 1: best team in the Eastern Conference? Who is it?

544
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Speaker 3: It's a two team race, that's it.

545
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Speaker 1: You're okay, Pacers aren't.

546
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Speaker 3: In There are.

547
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Speaker 1: No Celtics, the Raptor.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Raptors. I'm sorry, Celtics, Okay, that's not gonna happen.

549
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Speaker 3: It's the Sixers of the Bucks. There's too much there's

550
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Speaker 3: too much talent on the Sixers team for them to

551
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Speaker 3: be away from the top two spots. But no and

552
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Speaker 3: no one's gonna score on them, no one, No one's

553
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Speaker 3: going to score on a team that has Ben Simmons

554
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Speaker 3: at the point and then Josh Richardson coming over from

555
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Speaker 3: Miami was ridiculously good. Al Horford and Joel Embiad at

556
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Speaker 3: the back and Tobias Harris is their quote unquote weak

557
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Speaker 3: link in the starting five, right Who's gonna score on

558
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Speaker 3: that team? That's why I sort of I leaned six

559
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Speaker 3: Ers talent wise. That is going to be really tough

560
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Speaker 3: on that end. But on the other end, they don't

561
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Speaker 3: have a lot of shooting around Embiid and I'm okay

562
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Speaker 3: with that. I think they'll figure it out. Josh Richardson's

563
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Speaker 3: going from like a one in Miami to like a

564
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Speaker 3: three or four. He'll figure it out. All Horford always

565
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Speaker 3: figures it out. Ben Simmons. I think this is a

566
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Speaker 3: good thing that Jimmy Butler left in that there's a

567
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Speaker 3: pressure on him, there's more pressure on Joel Embid, which

568
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Speaker 3: I like the ball is gonna go to him in

569
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Speaker 3: fourth quarters. I don't know how you bet against the Bucks,

570
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Speaker 3: but the talented but overwhelming Yeah, I think I am.

571
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Speaker 3: I think I am because I think that this team

572
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Speaker 3: was always going to be. It was always going to

573
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Speaker 3: go wherever Joel Embiid led them, and I think he

574
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Speaker 3: knows after the way the season finished, the crying after

575
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Speaker 3: that second round series lost to the NBA champion Toronto

576
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Speaker 3: Raptors by one four bounced shot, and they could have

577
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Speaker 3: been the team that went there. And now Joel Embiid knows.

578
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Speaker 3: I think you learned a lot, you know, through that

579
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Speaker 3: series and through the offseason. So I'm picking him to

580
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Speaker 3: to up Giannis, who obviously learned some things too. But

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I think it'll it'll be

582
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Speaker 3: those two and and otherwise nothing. Probably, I think they'll

583
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Speaker 3: be a bit of a drop You.

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Speaker 1: Think they'll be a yeah. I was gonna say, a

585
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Speaker 1: drastic sort of drop off from the Bucks sixers to

586
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Speaker 1: the to the team's three, four or five.

587
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Speaker 3: Yeah, to the family of Nets, Raps, Heat, Celtics and Pacers.

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Speaker 1: If they do well, okay, so okay, you got the Sixers.

589
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Speaker 2: Sixers, the size is crazy.

590
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Speaker 7: The fact that Josh Richardson is their smallest player in

591
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Speaker 7: their starting lineup. He's six to six and a solid defender.

592
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Speaker 7: That's pretty that's pretty impressive. You say they don't have

593
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Speaker 7: shooting around him, but I saw Ben Simmons hit a

594
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Speaker 7: three in the preseason. The guy looks lights out already,

595
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Speaker 7: So I think that's reliable. You can count on that,

596
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Speaker 7: but it will require some big games from Tobias Harris.

597
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Speaker 7: I think he's going to be the guy. Like you're saying,

598
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Speaker 7: he's sort of the weak link. You know, he was

599
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Speaker 7: nearly an All Star with the Clippers last season. He's

600
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Speaker 7: kind of been knocking on the door of being an

601
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Speaker 7: All Star. If they're going to get shooting from their

602
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Speaker 7: perimeter guys, he's going to get a lot of open shots,

603
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Speaker 7: as will Josh Richardson. But I think Harris has more

604
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Speaker 7: of a rep of being the guy that really needs.

605
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Speaker 2: To knock him down.

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Speaker 7: The Sixers got to fifty one wins last year, and

607
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Speaker 7: that was with Embid playing just sixty four games. They

608
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Speaker 7: had two overhauls of their team. There's a lot, a

609
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Speaker 7: lot happening with the Sixers last year. There will still

610
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Speaker 7: be a lot happening this year, I imagine, because like

611
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Speaker 7: we're saying, there's not a ton of depth, there's a

612
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Speaker 7: lot of unproven guys coming off the bench. Mike Scott

613
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Speaker 7: is your most reliable guy, and he was fighting with

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Speaker 7: the Philadelphia fans of football game over there over the summer.

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Speaker 7: So I wouldn't be surprised if the Bucks do have

616
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Speaker 7: a better record throughout the season. They seem to have

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Speaker 7: guys who might be a little bit sturdier throughout the year.

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Speaker 7: But if it comes down to who I would take

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Speaker 7: in a series, I would probably roll with the Sixers.

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Speaker 6: I'll take the Bucks. I think the Bucks are still

621
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Speaker 6: a better team than Philadelphia. There are some moving parts

622
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Speaker 6: that have to come together, and no doubt, I love

623
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Speaker 6: the defensive improvements. I love Al Horford on that team.

624
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Speaker 6: I think that's just exactly what Philadelphia needs, that guy

625
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Speaker 6: who can just keep things calm. But I do wonder

626
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Speaker 6: a little bit about the spacing still Ben Simmons, and

627
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Speaker 6: you know, yes he's now a three point shooter, But

628
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 6: the problem is though still, you know with him and

629
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Speaker 6: emb they do get in each other's way a little

630
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Speaker 6: bit and that can be a problem there. And look, Milwaukee,

631
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 6: they lost Brogden that they're going to miss him. He

632
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 6: was very, very important for those very steady hand latent

633
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 6: games for them. They also lost Miritage, you know, he

634
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 6: didn't work out all that well. Yeah, and Tony Snell

635
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 6: they'll miss him a little bit. He was a pretty

636
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Speaker 6: handy who didn't need the ball in his hands all

637
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 6: that much, but he would defend well, he was okay.

638
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Speaker 6: But listen, they get Robin Lopez, Wesley Matthews, Kyle Korva

639
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 6: on that team. Wesley, Matthews and Korva are exactly the

640
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 6: sort of guys I think that can hurt of Philadelphis

641
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 6: him because they can spread the floor so much, which

642
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 6: then allows Yannis to go and do his business inside.

643
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 6: So you know, I think that bud ball that we

644
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 6: saw last year, we saw that down here in Atlanta

645
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 6: when he was with the Hawks. It works. It works

646
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 6: in the regular season. It worked up until Nick Nurse

647
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 6: switched Kawhi leon It onto Jannis in the Eastern Conference

648
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 6: finals as well. The Bucks were great up until that point.

649
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Speaker 6: I expect Yannis to be better than he was last season.

650
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 6: I expect him to shoot a little bit better, not

651
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 6: necessarily from three, but just all around. And I think

652
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 6: from what happened with the Bucks last season being too

653
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 6: nil up and then losing that series, and then Yannis

654
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 6: also talked about not having fun at the World Cup,

655
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 6: he's motivated. He wants to get back to that point,

656
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 6: and so I think that you're going to see the

657
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 6: Bucks certainly not take a drop off from where they

658
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 6: were last season. And with Philadelphia, you know, Tobias Harris,

659
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 6: I'm not a big fan. I don't think they needed

660
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 6: to pay one hundred and eighty million. I think that's

661
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 6: too much for him because he's a good player. You

662
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 6: talk about and being on the fringe for an All Star,

663
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 6: but there's a reason why he keeps on bouncing around

664
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 6: teams as well. He's just he just doesn't deliver for them.

665
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 6: He doesn't play the role that I think they need

666
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 6: him to do. So I'm rolling with the Bucks, but

667
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 6: I'm excited for Philadelphia again. I think ol Hawford was

668
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 6: a very very important signing for them. I think he

669
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 6: could be the one that just keeps them from from,

670
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 6: you know, falling apart a little bit. As as maybe

671
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 6: that happened for them in the playoffs last season.

672
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 7: I'm out worried about having two Lopez's in the same.

673
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 6: I think that'd be funny. I think it'd be great.

674
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 7: What if they make everybody choose between Marvel and DC

675
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 7: and just quickly destroy.

676
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: The chemistry they had last year.

677
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, do you go on the tripisode. That's

678
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 6: the thing. I think Robin Robin knows that. Yeah, they're

679
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 6: basically different players. Robin can't shoot the three and Brook

680
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 6: doesn't like going inside anymore. So you know you're going

681
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 6: to see a little bit of both of them out

682
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 6: of the court.

683
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: That's they're playing together. That'd be great.

684
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: Three four, five, Oh yeah, I hope we see that.

685
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm very high on the Sixers as well, especially you

686
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: guys talking about how great their defense should be, just

687
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: because it's gigantic and like, how do you score on

688
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: some of these guys because e Being and Horford are

689
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: both amazing defenders. And then that's not without even talking

690
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: about Josh Rigson and even Simmons out there. But no

691
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: team in the NBA, in my opinion, has to start

692
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: stronger than the Sixers, like right out of the gate,

693
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: because you know, Tobias Harris, the one to eighty. You

694
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: said they're lead five for five years. Simmons got the

695
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: max extension five years, one hundred and seventy million, you know,

696
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: the ink Horford to the big deal. Like, if they

697
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: start slowly, you know people are going to be again.

698
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna bring up two things, probably the Harris, Oh

699
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: my god, they overpaid for him. Now they're screwed with him.

700
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: They're screwed with him there, and the idea of like, oh,

701
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: Simmons in embid can't work and you've got a look

702
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 1: to move on of them because it can't work, Like,

703
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that is true. But if they start slowly,

704
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, those are gonna be the storylines that you're

705
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: gonna see and sort of hanging around them.

706
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: But through Brown being the couch.

707
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, well I think that's another thing is people people

708
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 7: were fast to put.

709
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: Him on the hot seat last season.

710
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 7: But now with all of these huge money contracts and

711
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 7: with Lebron gone from the Eastern Conference, with Kawhi gone

712
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 7: from the Eastern Conference, it's easy or bust for the Sixers.

713
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: And if it's bust, then Cia Brett.

714
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's right. But like the Bucks. You added

715
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: the guys their key additions. It's like, my favorite part

716
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: of the Bucks is they added one of one of

717
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: your favorite players each guys Rob Robin Lopez for Trey Okay,

718
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: Wesley Matthews for tasks. You love Wesley Matthews, Lee, Kyle Korver,

719
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: your guy, I mean, like perfect. This is why I

720
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: am gonna stick with the Bucks. And I'm a big

721
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brogden fan. He's a great He's one of those

722
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: guys and you just want on your team, you know,

723
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: classic cliche because he's that sort of utility man, and

724
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: we saw what he did in the playoffs and he

725
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: was actually at times, like the Bucks maybe second best

726
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: player at times, I think he was playing better than

727
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: Chris Middleton and at some points in the playoffs. But

728
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: I also think his law is being a little over exaggerated.

729
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: He's good.

730
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: He's good. But hopefully they can make up a little

731
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: bit of that with the shooting at Korver and Wesley

732
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: Matthews giving him a sort of a poor man's version

733
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: of Broaden just because he's older. I think they're gonna

734
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: be fine. I think Giannis does go to the next level.

735
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: This makes sense that you guys are going Sixers because

736
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: you were taking in Beat for MVP. I was sticking

737
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: with Giannis for MVP. So it does really that makes

738
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: it like whoever you think is going to be the

739
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: best team in the East, It's it's possible they have

740
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: the MVP on their squad. But I like the Bucks

741
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: just because they're a lead on both sides too. They're

742
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: a great offensive team with budball, they were a top

743
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: five team offensive rating, and they were the best defense,

744
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: you know, better than the Jazz, which is pretty amazing.

745
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: So if they can continue to be great on both sides,

746
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: then they're gonna win a ton of games.

747
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 5: Uh.

748
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: It's just as simple as that. And the and the

749
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: Sixers got a they got a lot of ground to

750
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: make up. They lost nine less games last year. It's

751
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: a pretty significant difference.

752
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: So it is, And there's definitely a situation like like

753
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: Trey mentioned earlier that the Sixers could not find themselves

754
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: until may be, you know, February, March, April, the Bucks

755
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: have more wins and then they have a great series

756
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: in the Eastern Conference Finals. I think it's sort of

757
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: like last year, a lot of people were predicting maybe

758
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: you know, the Celtics may not find themselves until later

759
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: on in the year. The Raps are going to be great.

760
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: They'll probably be the one seed and the Celtics just didn't,

761
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: you know, didn't come through.

762
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, six ers.

763
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: I just feel like have so much talent. We know

764
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: who they're going to be in the Eastern Conference finals.

765
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 3: We mentioned they're five starters. Last year, the Bucks just

766
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: couldn't find who they were going to start or who

767
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: they're going to end with. I should say, in those

768
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference finals, like Jannis and Middleton, we're out there

769
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: with Brook, Lopez, Brogden, who's gone, and maybe a George

770
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: Hill or a Miritate or something like that. Yeah, Brogden gone,

771
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 3: it's gonna be Yannis, Middleton in Brook and who else.

772
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: Wesley Matthews may not be his former self. George Hill

773
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: might be out there again. Yeah.

774
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, they really signed George Hill, so they're pretty confident

775
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 6: with him.

776
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

777
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 6: I think Matthews are the same. Offensively great, but defensively

778
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 6: they can get exposed.

779
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: It's gonna be one of them, you know, Korver, I

780
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 3: think you want out there because he's gonna draw a defender.

781
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: But they had some late late game questions, and I

782
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: think it all comes down to Giannis whether or not

783
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: he's gonna figure out, like Trey put it in the offseason,

784
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 3: that's skyhook. If he finds that sky hook, it's over.

785
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 3: It's over. It really feels it really feels like that.

786
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: It was Qui kind of shutting him down within four

787
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: feet of the rim and him just being like a

788
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: little reluctant to just toss it over him to have

789
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: a shot, to have a go to move. And that's

790
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: that's what it's going to come down to. That should

791
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 3: be a great series if it happens.

792
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it moving here. Next question, back

793
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: to the awards. All right, who wins Most Improved Player MP?

794
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 1: My favorite award? Who do you got make the case?

795
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 7: I look at the last five winners siakam Oladipo, Giannis,

796
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 7: c J McCollum, Jimmy Butler. These are all guys who

797
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 7: had a tiny REP and then in one season they

798
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 7: exploded and became the star their team, or at the

799
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 7: very least the second star.

800
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 2: So you got to find the guy.

801
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 7: Who's sort of in the same situation that for me

802
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 7: is Jamal Murray. People care about the Nuggets now, he

803
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 7: was good last season eighteen four and five. If he

804
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 7: gets into the twenty points per game, adds another couple

805
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 7: of assists, I think people could start looking at him

806
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 7: as the second All Star on the Nuggets. You know,

807
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 7: maybe Nikola Jokic gets some MVP votes, but maybe the

808
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 7: Nuggets have a great season and Murray is having the

809
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 7: best year of his career, and they say, well, I

810
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 7: don't know if I can give Nikola Jokich my MVP vote,

811
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 7: but I could certainly give Jamal Murray my MP vote.

812
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: That's almost the same thing.

813
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 7: They will work in tandem together to get each other votes.

814
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 7: I'm high on Jamal Murray. I can see him being

815
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 7: trade bait for Brad Beil. I think Beal is still better,

816
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 7: But I mean, why would the Nuggets want to give

817
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 7: up on Murray now? The guy is trending upwards. They

818
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 7: invested in him, and he's been there developing chemistry with

819
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 7: Jokic for such a long time.

820
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm definitely high on the Maple man.

821
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: So you're looking at like Jamal Murray Kitchener's finest. Jamal

822
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: Murray going to almost a borderline All Star level. Yeah,

823
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: at least knocking on the door yeah, like Siakam, I

824
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: mean exactly last season. Yeah, that's a that's a good pick,

825
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: and he'd be what that'd be your three right for

826
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: Jamal Morace. So yeah, okay, that's a good one. I

827
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: don't mind that. I like, you know me, I say

828
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: that that year three. I wanted to clarify because I

829
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: hate the second year. I can't stand there. Like four,

830
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: it's even better, Okay, I can't stand like the idea

831
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: of everybody knows this if you've been listening to the

832
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: show for any amount of time that I find them,

833
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: I p ward very weird as it is. But people

834
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: that make the case like from the rookie to the

835
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: second year, like oh yeah, oh he got amazing. He was,

836
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: he was a pretty good rookie. Now he's great, and like, yeah,

837
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: that's what should happen.

838
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 6: That's what always happened.

839
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: Let me give you my picks, Shay Gilds. Maybe it's

840
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 3: because s Trey just gave us a Canadian I'm looking

841
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: at a Canadian flag right now here in my basement.

842
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna I'm gonna take shade because he didn't

843
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: have much of a rep Like he didn't he just

844
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: kind of floated under the radar a little bit. In

845
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 3: Los Angeles.

846
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: He was getting some pub people were like, yeah, pleasant

847
00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: surprise pub.

848
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, but he can he can jump up

849
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: and second he can jump up from his eleven points.

850
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: There could be a huge Sackum like increase in those numbers,

851
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 3: especially if Chris Paul gets traded. When he gets traded

852
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: from Oklahoma, she Gilders Alexander is going to run the

853
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: show there. There's just so much talk about him being

854
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 3: a great leader. And if he gets the reins on

855
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: that team, which I do think he will get at

856
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 3: some point this season, his numbers are going to go

857
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: up big time. It is odd to give it to

858
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 3: a second year guy. Doesn't really make a lot of sense.

859
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: Doesn't happen very often, only twice in the last like

860
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: twenty years, as it happened Monte Ellis and Gilbert Arenas.

861
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: So it's it's been a while, but I love that guy.

862
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: I just love him. It's more of a it's more

863
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 3: of a love infatuation thing. He's more of a Canadian

864
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: shout out thing. I guess as well.

865
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so we got a couple of Canadians, Lee, are

866
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: you going duy Peal.

867
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 6: No, No, I'm going with an American boy, Lunzo. I

868
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 6: think it could be got on. Yeah. I think he's

869
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 6: in a great position there in New Orleans because he's

870
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 6: away from the craziness and the expectations of being the

871
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 6: number two pick in LA. It wasn't a great situation

872
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 6: for him. Most importantly, though, I've from the preseason games,

873
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 6: I've seen already he's developed some pretty good chemistry with Zion.

874
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 6: He's going to have the ball in his hands a lot.

875
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 6: He's going to be running a lot of pick and

876
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 6: rolls of him throwing him moops, throwing him lobs, and

877
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 6: I think this could really help him out now where

878
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 6: the expectations, while there are some, they're certainly not the

879
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 6: same as they were in Los Angeles. But also, he

880
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 6: has improved the looks of his jump shot so much.

881
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 6: Whether or not that will necessarily translate to a high percentage,

882
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 6: but he's already doing these wild step backs in the preseason.

883
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 6: He's showing so much confidence in his ability. So if

884
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 6: he can bump his numbers up to somewhere reasonable, you know,

885
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 6: maybe sixteen seventeen a game, eight or nine assists a

886
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 6: game on reasonable percentages I think that's really going to

887
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 6: stand out, particularly if the Pelicans do really well. You know,

888
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 6: if they're hovering around five hundred, he's going to have

889
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 6: a lot of that true holidays obviously there as well

890
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 6: to help him. So it's not like a situation where

891
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 6: he's going to have all the point guard defenses on

892
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 6: him alone. He's going to have time off the ball,

893
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 6: and then he's going to have time on the ball.

894
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 6: And also, technically this is a contract year for lonso

895
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 6: not in the sense that next year he's a free agent,

896
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 6: but next season he can sign that rookie scale extension contract.

897
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 6: So if he performs really well this season, next summer,

898
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 6: the Pelicans have that option to sign him to that,

899
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 6: you know, his second contract there. So he wants to perform.

900
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 6: Obviously they don't have to. They still have him for

901
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 6: another two seasons this season and next season, but of

902
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 6: course players all want to get that big bump of

903
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 6: pay day before they hit a restricted free agency. And

904
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 6: you know, look, I think the Pelicans look at him

905
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 6: as potentially a guy who could be there for a

906
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 6: long time with Zion building. He's still young, growing together,

907
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 6: and again, from what I've seen in the preseason earlier.

908
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 6: He looks confident, he looks just he looks a better player.

909
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: You like the new Jumper.

910
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 6: I do like the new Jumpers watching that in person again,

911
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 6: like the fact that it just goes straight up and down.

912
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 6: He doesn't pull it across his body, which was just awful.

913
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 6: So they've already made significant progress in how it looks. Again,

914
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 6: he's got to go out there and perform. He's got

915
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 6: to hit these three uh and and basically any you know,

916
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 6: he's gotta be out of hit jump shots. But we

917
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 6: know he's already a good defender. He can rebound, he's

918
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 6: got that sort of Jason Kidds sort of style off

919
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 6: a point guard, so he's got the tools there.

920
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: He ain't afraid to throw all up to his ion.

921
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: Wis No, that's what it means, you know.

922
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 6: And he's and he's familiar already with Brandon Ingram and

923
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 6: with Josh Hart, so he's played with a couple of

924
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 6: guys there. I think it's a good situation for him

925
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 6: and we can really sort of see what type of

926
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 6: player he might.

927
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: Be an he's standing up to Dad, that's right, we

928
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: talked about episode one. Yeah, Yeah, he's a great player.

929
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: He just has to find that confidence, and the fact

930
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: that he's stepping up to Dad is a great saying, well, well.

931
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: For someone that hates us award, I've got a couple answers,

932
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: so that's a sort of ironic for the most improved

933
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: I got. Okay, I've got I sort of have a

934
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: Homer weird pick here, and I tweeted this out earlier

935
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: in the summer, but it's not that far fetched. I

936
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: don't think that Pascal Siakam could actually win this back

937
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: to back. I know that sounds insane. It's never been

938
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: done before. But if hear me, if he took his

939
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: game to another level, which a lot of Raptors fans

940
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: of course, and probably miss UJII and Nick Nurse and

941
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: that that organization is hoping happens, he takes it to

942
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: another level, sort of becomes a star like guy. I

943
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: don't know if he hasn't in him, we'll find out.

944
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: But if he does, say, averages twenty three, twenty four

945
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: points per game, Let's say he makes the All Star Game,

946
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: he makes all NBA honors, or he's in the mix.

947
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: There keeps the Raptors, you know, like a in like

948
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: a home court advantage sort of playoff hunt, you know,

949
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: sort of surprising people. Maybe the third fourth be team.

950
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: Maybe even better than that. You could see a case

951
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: for him like winning back to back because he wanted.

952
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: Of course, he came sort of out of nowhere to

953
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: scoring like sixteen points per game. Well, if he does

954
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: that jump again and again keeps the Raptors relevant, there's

955
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: a weird case to be made. I think it's in

956
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: play because like you, like you took us through their tray.

957
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: You were saying, like these guys sort of were, like,

958
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, came sort of out of nowhere to become

959
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: star players, like all star players or leaders on their team,

960
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: or at least a second or the second guy in

961
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: Pascal's case last year. So I think it's in play.

962
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen though, because it's just so weird.

963
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: My real pick, I'm gonna go with Magic power forward

964
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: Jonathan Isaac because I think when you compare Isaac to

965
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: Siakam in their second year seasons and you check out

966
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: their stats, and Isaac only played sixty four games, or

967
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: he played in six four games and played more minutes

968
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: than Sakam back in his second year, but their numbers

969
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: were pretty similar. So if they can, the Magic can

970
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: get Isaac sort of to blossom into what Siakam did

971
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: in his third year, where he became like Sam became

972
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: borderline All Star player. I don't see why Isaac couldn't

973
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: do the same. And if the and if the Magic

974
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: continue to build on like that late run last year,

975
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: and they're just a little more prevalent and people are

976
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: thinking about them and watching their games and seeing him,

977
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: I think it's it's in play for Jonathan Isaac. But

978
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: my final final wild card pick, yeah, I got one more.

979
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: He told you.

980
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: Here we go wild card pick, and it's gonna include

981
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: a little trivia here, So get ready my wild card pick.

982
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: It's it's a little out of left field, but Pacers forward,

983
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: new pacers for with TJ Warren. You guys were talking

984
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: about him. When we're talking about the pace, someone is

985
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to score on that team, and that is

986
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: what TJ can do.

987
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: Man.

988
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: And he now his thing is he never plays in

989
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: more than like sixty five games. But when he does play,

990
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 1: and maybe this is one of these rare seasons where

991
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: he plays in eighty games, he averages he's averaging like

992
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: nineteen points per game or the last two seasons over

993
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: the last two seasons, like the guy scores just turned

994
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: twenty six, He's in his sixth year. He's finally on

995
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: a team that he actually might win some games. He's

996
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: out of Phoenix and on the Pacers. You know, we're

997
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: a little confused of how good they'll be because we're

998
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: talking about they're tough to predict. But he's you know,

999
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna get a little more eyeballs. I could see

1000
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: him if he scores in the in the twenties or

1001
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: like low twenties or even more, maybe just having to

1002
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: be the guy until all the people comes back. I

1003
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: think there could be some votes there for him. And

1004
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: the reason the trivia part.

1005
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: Of this is yeah, pacers waiting for we gotta name

1006
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: all the tjs.

1007
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: Well no, no Pacers win of this war. Pacers win

1008
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: the most Improved Award a lot. Can you name the

1009
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: last five guys or the five guys I should say

1010
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: to win this award as Pacers.

1011
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 6: Yea and Rose, Okay, Jailing, Danny Granger.

1012
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: You just named four of them guys, Okay, let me Jaalen, Rose,

1013
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: Jermaine O'Neill, hold on Lee Jail, I know, just blowing

1014
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: his wad.

1015
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: Rick Smith's, Rick Smith's.

1016
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: Jalen Rose in ninety nine, two thousand, Germaine O'Neill, oh,

1017
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: one oh two, Danny Granger in eight oh nine. Oladipo,

1018
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: you said seventeen eighteen, you're missing one. You're actually missing one.

1019
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: I thought you maybe would have got first.

1020
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 3: Roy Hibbert, Nope, Paul George.

1021
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 2: Paul George.

1022
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: So man pacers win this award. Man, Yeah, argument, Yeah,

1023
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm already pissed by the way I can see it now.

1024
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: People are gonna start going Markel Foltz for most Improved.

1025
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could have won it last Oh.

1026
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,959
Speaker 1: I come, I'm already angry when I just it's gonna

1027
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: be his third year, Is that right?

1028
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he could have definitely won

1029
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: it last year. He just improved a little bit. Yeah.

1030
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: Jonathan Isaac is a great one because he's coming out

1031
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 3: for some people. He's coming out of nowhere, and he

1032
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 3: is definitely going to be good. The thing was, Pascal

1033
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: Siakam kind of came out of nowhere for some people,

1034
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 3: and now he's going to be the number one option

1035
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: on a team. Oh yeah, that's that's the problem.

1036
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I think that's the toughest thing to do

1037
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: in the NBA, to like go to the level they

1038
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: now want Siakam to go to, right, Like, yeah, it's

1039
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: like one thing to be the guy. And look, he

1040
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: was great in the playoffs at times, no doubt, but

1041
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: it's it's just so much easier to be a guy

1042
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: that like I'll give you like sixteen and eight, and

1043
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: I'll have really good games every once in a while

1044
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: and then maybe you know, I'm sort of like I'm

1045
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: not heard of as much from for the next couple

1046
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: of weeks. Like to do that, but then to do

1047
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: that every single night when people are game planning for you,

1048
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: to be the guy that make sure you're chipping in

1049
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty four points ten boards, you know, giving

1050
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: it on both ends. That is, that's the next level.

1051
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: That's those are the superstar guys.

1052
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 6: Really well, well, Jannis went from not being the MVP

1053
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 6: to being MVP when he was six most Improved the

1054
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 6: year before, and he got four votes in most Improved

1055
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 6: last season. Okay, see what I'm saying.

1056
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So see what you're saying.

1057
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 6: Bascal would have to win MVP, and even then he

1058
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 6: might only get full vote, Okay, Okay.

1059
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 7: And actually MVP is now next year. This year he's

1060
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 7: supposed to add another ten points scoring average out twenty six.

1061
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 7: The next year after that another ten six. Then he's

1062
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 7: an MVP.

1063
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 3: Guys, I thought, when you went to the raptor, you're

1064
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 3: going to go with og Annobi Non. We'll see he's

1065
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 3: a hot pick because he fits the past exactly.

1066
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's right, that's right, okay. Or there's

1067
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: a couple of questions in here for part two. I

1068
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: wanted to take a quick quickly like I guess we

1069
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: can call it like an intermission break before we get

1070
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 1: to some more questions, because I thought it would be fun.

1071
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got we got some tunes here. Okay,

1072
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: that's perfect. I thought it'd be fun as we ramp

1073
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: up this new No Dunks podcast to find out what

1074
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: the heck everybody was doing during the summer, because we've

1075
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: been off for we were off for a very long time,

1076
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: but we were obviously trying to find a job and

1077
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: we did so shut us to us, big shout out

1078
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: to us, shout up to our agents too. But it's like,

1079
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, we didn't see each other for a

1080
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: good chunk of time, and we were off earlier because

1081
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: we didn't do Summer League and all that. So Lee,

1082
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: I thought we could start with you today and we

1083
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: do this throughout the rest of the week each guy.

1084
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: But like, do you have a good do you have

1085
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: a good summer story that you want to share something

1086
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: you learned during the summer. And I know we were

1087
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: podcasting as the free agents and we got your you

1088
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: know you went to Australia and all that, But yeah,

1089
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: anything anything else happened since now you've just been traveling

1090
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: the globe.

1091
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I had a great summer. Actually we went

1092
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 6: to my wife and our two boys went to London

1093
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 6: just after the Raptors won the championship. Now we had

1094
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 6: a lot of time off, but my wife didn't. But

1095
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 6: what happened was we were supposed to arrive in London

1096
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 6: on the Saturday morning, the first Saturday, but bon Jovi

1097
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 6: were playing at Wembley on the Friday night. So myself

1098
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 6: and my sister in law, my wife's sister, we colluded

1099
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 6: to try to convince my wife to come over a

1100
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 6: couple of days early so we'd be there just in

1101
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 6: time for bonjo But I couldn't tell her that because

1102
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 6: you'd be like Nah, you've seen bon Jovi, you don't

1103
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 6: need to go and see him. But instead, my wife,

1104
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 6: my sister in Laura and I we managed to get

1105
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 6: these airfares a little bit earlier, so we went over

1106
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 6: on the Wednesday overnight, arrived Thursday morning, had the Thursday

1107
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 6: in London, then the Friday night went to bon Jovi

1108
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 6: at Wembley. It was the most perfect night you could

1109
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 6: possibly imagine. Just the weather was perfect. There was probably

1110
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 6: ninety five thousand people there. It was holy. I know,

1111
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 6: pack pack, but I want to talk about one person

1112
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 6: who was there in particular. No, not John. He was great,

1113
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 6: he's brilliant.

1114
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 3: Friend.

1115
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 6: But we turned up at right on eight o'clock and

1116
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 6: so I think the first time they played was this

1117
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 6: house is not for sale. That's the tour. So I

1118
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 6: think it was that. So I turned up there with

1119
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 6: my brother, my sister in law and my brother in law,

1120
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 6: and towards the end of the very first time, I

1121
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 6: get the tap on the shoulder. Excuse me, mate, can

1122
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 6: you please sit down so we can all see? Oh?

1123
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 6: I just I'm like, I turn around, excuse me, I said,

1124
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 6: it's bon Jovi at Wembley. Man, It's just like sumer,

1125
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 6: what do you you know? And I'm not a confrontational person,

1126
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 6: but this guy, I'm like, you got it, you kid

1127
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 6: a seconds like first song of the night anyway, So

1128
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 6: I just I ignored him. I turned around and John

1129
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 6: bon Jovi, he must have known what was going on

1130
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 6: because he said.

1131
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 2: He launch straight into it. It's my life.

1132
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 6: He said, all right, this is one of our best songs,

1133
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 6: our favorite songs.

1134
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 8: Everybody out of your seat, get up on your feet.

1135
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 6: I turned around. Yeah, my god, shut through the ha

1136
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 6: and y'are too.

1137
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 5: No.

1138
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 6: I was pointing at John at this stage. I was like,

1139
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 6: this guy, I forget about him, but I just let

1140
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 6: him know, like, yeah, man, John wants everyone up. You

1141
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 6: get up and you dance. If you don't like it,

1142
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 6: get out.

1143
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: It would have been badass if like after a bunjo

1144
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: he's like, everybody stand up, let's go that. You turned

1145
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: around and you told that guy, no, no, no, not you.

1146
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 6: Sit down, you sit around.

1147
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 1: You just have to seat there and enjoy the show.

1148
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 6: Ah. Yeah, but it was. It was great this guy.

1149
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 6: A couple of other times I sort of turned around

1150
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 6: throughout the concert sitting down. I mean yeah, a couple

1151
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 6: of times like he got up. He reluctantly got up,

1152
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 6: you know, because he didn't want to. He was too

1153
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 6: stubborn to show that he's enjoying himself. But I'm just like,

1154
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 6: why would you come to this year, you know, and

1155
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 6: sit down and then ask other people to sit down

1156
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 6: and be boring like you.

1157
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 3: Maybe his wife dragged him across the world that.

1158
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 6: Even more so, she did that to stand up and

1159
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 6: enjoy yourself. You're there now, you may as well have fun.

1160
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 6: It was just crazy. But I have to say, bon Jovi,

1161
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 6: it's honestly one of the greatest experiences you can you

1162
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 6: can have because because I'm telling you, one of your

1163
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 6: greatest Yeah, you've got to go and say, you know,

1164
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 6: I talk about Anthony Keatis and the red Hot Chili

1165
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 6: Pepply with no crowd participation, John bond Is non.

1166
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: Stocks can bar chick a John barn all night long.

1167
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 6: He's talking back and forth, he's getting the crowd going,

1168
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 6: he's playing some of the classics.

1169
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 5: Uh.

1170
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 6: It was just a brilliant night except for Wembley Stadium,

1171
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 6: one of the most iconic venues in the world. Yes no, yes, yeah,

1172
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 6: Budweiser was what they were selling. Budweiser. Oh my show

1173
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 6: some respect. We England have got some of the greatest

1174
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 6: beers in the world and you're selling big swill American

1175
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 6: Americans that the problem is, it's like the worst beer

1176
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 6: you can possibly.

1177
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 1: Lee Ellis won't even drink a free Budweiser, let alone

1178
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: one you have to pay for Wembley. Because I was

1179
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: with you Lee here during the summer watching the NFL

1180
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: Grand Final. Were at a little watch party. They had

1181
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: free Budweiser, and Lee Ellis he wouldn't even he was

1182
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: he wouldn't. You tried, You tried to drink it. You

1183
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: took one sip and then we're back to drinking your

1184
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: apple cider that you were drinking.

1185
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 4: As well.

1186
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 6: I had the side of vinegarme.

1187
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, you really disliked the Buds.

1188
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 6: I just can't. I mean, look, you just can't drink it.

1189
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 6: It's just not real beer. It's just crap. But it

1190
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 6: didn't It didn't really, No, it is.

1191
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 2: It's crap.

1192
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 6: It's crappier. But fortunately John Bond and the crew made

1193
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 6: me forget about that. We just had it. We just

1194
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 6: had a great night. He ended with living on a prayer.

1195
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 6: I mean, everyone's no one left the arena everyone was

1196
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 6: there until the end, and it was just a fantastic

1197
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 6: the most perfect. It was the longest night of the

1198
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 6: year too.

1199
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: I think the summer it doesn't sound like that perfect

1200
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: of a night. You were a younger and go behind

1201
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: you couldn't.

1202
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 6: Drink the beer, No, it was yeah. I mean, look,

1203
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 6: I sucked down two beers because I had to. I

1204
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 6: mean I had no other choice. But the guy behind me,

1205
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 6: I enjoyed him being so grumpy and miserable because I

1206
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 6: was like, I'd imagine being that dude. You know, like

1207
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 6: someone says, hey, we've got bon Jovir tickets at Wembley.

1208
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 6: Oh awesome, man, Yeah, I hope everyone's sitting down as

1209
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 6: if we're watching like the Ballet or something, you know.

1210
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 6: And then John Bond's.

1211
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 8: Jumping, and John Bond's up there all night long, jumping

1212
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 8: and dancing, giving all the energy he's got and it

1213
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 8: was just fantastic.

1214
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 6: And then the next night, Billy Joel at Wembley Stadium

1215
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 6: to BJ's in a row. Unbelievable, unbelievable, Billy Joel at Wembley.

1216
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 6: Probably not ninety five thousand there that night though, probably

1217
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 6: only eighty eighty five thousand, but brilliant. It's brilliant.

1218
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 2: Everybody standing with everybody.

1219
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 6: So there was a few more lulls in the Billy

1220
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 6: Joel concert that you know, fantastic. Here's a quick trivia

1221
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 6: for you.

1222
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: But Gus, did you suck back?

1223
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 6: I had to go. I had to go by myself

1224
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 6: to Billy. So yeah, I mean, you have one. So

1225
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 6: you can't sort of stand there with no beer in

1226
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 6: your hand. You know you've gotta have something. But yeah,

1227
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 6: I've got some quick trivia for you. Guys. Guess what.

1228
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 6: Guess what his final song of the night was. I'll

1229
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 6: give you a couple of give you a couple of

1230
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 6: some harps. We didn't start the fire, Okay, it's still

1231
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 6: a rock and roll to me, you may be right,

1232
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 6: or a piano man, piano man, Yeah, I guess would

1233
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 6: be piano man.

1234
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to go. What was the second one?

1235
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 6: You said, Lee, we didn't start the fire or still

1236
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 6: rock and roll to me? Yeah, I know that one. JD.

1237
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 3: I'm gone didn't start the fire and yeah.

1238
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 6: You may be right was his last song of the night.

1239
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 6: Crazy you may be right, I may be crazy. Oh okay,

1240
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 6: maybe a lunatic you're looking for. It's actually a great song,

1241
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 6: wouldn't it. It's just unexpected. I would have I would have

1242
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 6: gone with we didn't start the fire.

1243
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 3: It was just the end of the center of the encore.

1244
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 6: No, the end of the OnCore.

1245
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 3: Wow.

1246
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1247
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 3: Didn't you just see Billy Joel like six months prior?

1248
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 5: No?

1249
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: In last year?

1250
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 6: No Elton not seeing Elton?

1251
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 3: Billy.

1252
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 6: No, I haven't seen Bill. I saw billionailcase.

1253
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: I remember the BJ talk but maybe preview he was.

1254
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 7: We did get an email over the summerle you mentioned

1255
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,479
Speaker 7: you went to London. This is an email from Lucas

1256
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 7: Rusher who says, Hey, Gang, I was listening to another

1257
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 7: podcast and one of the guys was talking about a

1258
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 7: passenger next to him on a flight to London. This

1259
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 7: passenger watched Missus doubt Fire twice in a row.

1260
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 6: Was it you? No, it wasn't me. Unfortunately it wasn't made.

1261
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 6: But I will say I was very happy that Delta

1262
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 6: did get Missus doubt Fire back on their because I

1263
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 6: lost it for a couple of years there and great

1264
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 6: to have it back, even for me to watch it

1265
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 6: twice in one triven top I'd probably do it.

1266
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: It's a lot enough place.

1267
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 3: We actually got that in our contract with the Athletic

1268
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 3: Delta has to.

1269
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 6: Get This is doubt fire.

1270
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, let's get back to the great

1271
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: intermission there talking j all right, next question here, guys,

1272
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: burning questions as we preview the upcoming season. What was

1273
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: the best under the radar off season move.

1274
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: It's got to be Delta and Missus Dusk. What a pickup.

1275
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: They've got to listen to the show win the offseason.

1276
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 7: My for real answer, JJ Reddick going to the New

1277
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 7: Orleans Pelicans. The guys never missed the playoffs in his

1278
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 7: career thirteen years. Do you just sign him hoping that

1279
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 7: guarantees you getting to the playoffs. Maybe it'll work.

1280
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would guess that. JJ Reddick averaged.

1281
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 7: Eighteen points per game last season, shot forty four percent

1282
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 7: from the field, thirty nine from three.

1283
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: He might not start for the Pelicans.

1284
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 7: I can see him coming off the bench, but I

1285
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 7: think he'll be closing games for Lonzo. I think it'll

1286
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 7: be Drew Holliday handling the ball, shifting over into kind

1287
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 7: of full time point guard for crunch time, with JJ

1288
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 7: spreading the court around Zion and probably Ingram and probably

1289
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 7: favors in as well. So I just think he's such

1290
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 7: a valuable veteran player.

1291
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: He was.

1292
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 7: He was an emotional leader for the Sixers, a guy

1293
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 7: that they loved having around, and he does exactly what

1294
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 7: you need around the players that they have. He gives

1295
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 7: them shooting, he gives them a little bit of toughness.

1296
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 7: He knows how to play in big game and he's

1297
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 7: been around forever. So I thought getting JJ Reddick was

1298
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 7: a smart move by David Griffin.

1299
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: That was a great Griff move there, for sure. That's

1300
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: a good one. Who do you guys got.

1301
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 3: I'll jump in. We mentioned him earlier. Kyle Korver on

1302
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 3: the Bucks. He went to a couple of finals. Playoff

1303
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: talk just like JJ Reddick. This is his opportunity to

1304
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 3: win an NBA championship because he went to a couple

1305
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 3: finals with the Cleveland Cavaliers. Didn't work out all the

1306
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: way there. Sometimes he got played off the floor a

1307
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 3: little bit. But I think with the Bucks he's gonna

1308
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: be there in crunch time, He's going to be on

1309
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 3: the floor. Maybe it'll be a little offense defense and

1310
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: he goes off the floor. But I think people forget

1311
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 3: that Kyle Kover is six to six. He's a very

1312
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: very big guy. He does take up space on the

1313
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 3: defense end. He's not a bad defensive player, but he

1314
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 3: can get burned, sort of like JJ Reddick to a degree.

1315
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 6: But he throws his body on the line though.

1316
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does. He's not bad at all. He does

1317
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 3: everything he can. But with Brogden gon I mentioned earlier, Giannis, Middleton,

1318
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: and Brook are probably the only three guys that are

1319
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: guaranteed to be on the floor. Bledsoe fades in and

1320
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 3: out Hill Matthews. I think Krver will find a spot

1321
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 3: there and this is his chance to ding some shots

1322
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: home because he's he's missed. He's swung and missed a

1323
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 3: couple times, like that one shot in the corner was

1324
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 3: that Game three against the Golden State Warriors, the first

1325
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: time KD won it in twenty eighteen. He missed that

1326
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 3: shot could have changed the entire series. This is his chance,

1327
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: and I think he'll be out there.

1328
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 6: Okay, Lee, I like bo Jan Bogdanovich to the Utah

1329
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 6: Jazz four years, seventy three million. I think that's a

1330
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 6: very very smart move from them because it gives them

1331
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 6: another guy at the end of games who can put

1332
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 6: the ball in his hands and take a shot. Now

1333
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 6: they've got got the guys like Mitchell and Mike Conley,

1334
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 6: of course, but I think having Bowyan out there is

1335
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 6: just another guy that you have to watch. I think

1336
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 6: defensively he's okay. He had a very very good season

1337
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 6: last year with the Indiana Pacers, and he's just one

1338
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 6: of those guys you kind of forget about. But I

1339
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 6: think the Jazz last season very strong season, awful in

1340
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 6: the playoffs, went out and made a couple of really

1341
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 6: nice well they couldn't score exactly a hard score, and

1342
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 6: he's he was basically the bases their go to guy

1343
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 6: in the playoffs. Now they were missing all the depot

1344
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 6: and they got swept. But if you don't want him guy, no,

1345
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 6: but you want you want him out on the floor

1346
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 6: so that you can't you can't double up on guys

1347
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 6: like Conlee or Donovan Mitchell, or if you do and

1348
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 6: you leave him open, he's going to be there. He's

1349
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 6: only twenty nine, I believe, so you know, uh, just

1350
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 6: a very good player. Another solid edition for the Jazz,

1351
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 6: and I think you know, they really retooled very nicely

1352
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 6: in this offseason.

1353
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: Those are all good picks. I'm going to go with

1354
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: the Clippers snagging More Heartless as an under the radi

1355
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: arsitieson move. They they absorbed More Heartless into their cap

1356
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: space early in the summer because it was a part

1357
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: of that four team trade that was going on, and

1358
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: they got a first round pick for their trouble as well.

1359
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: And he's entering final year of his like four year,

1360
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: forty two million dollar contract that he signed with Portland

1361
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: back in sixteen. I just like, you know, he look,

1362
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: he is on an all round great player, but he's

1363
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: good at defense and he helped the Blazers in that regard.

1364
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: So that's good. That's what the Clippers need. They're going

1365
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: to be an awesome defensive team with Patrick Beverley and

1366
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. But will he be there

1367
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: and crunch time? Maybe not playing a ton, but my

1368
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: worry is you got Paul George aready missing time. You know,

1369
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: Kawhi is going to have load management. Well, I think

1370
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: Harkless will be able to, you know, you'll be able

1371
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: to like sort of like plug him in there where

1372
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: needed to give them some defensive insurance, especially you know,

1373
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: like if he's coming off the bench, which he will

1374
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: be eventually with Lou Williams and Montres Harold. Those guys

1375
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: are offensive minded, Like, that's fine, those guys go get buckets.

1376
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: You need some defense. Pair some defense with them, and

1377
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: I think that's what Morehrkless does, especially for how they

1378
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: got him literally basically for nothing. They just added him

1379
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: to their team. So I like that little as a

1380
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: little under the radar move because when you're talking the Clippers,

1381
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: you're talking, oh my god, they got Paul George and

1382
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,959
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard. Yeah that's incredible. But they got him as well,

1383
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: so not bad.

1384
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 3: They're scary deep. Yeah, they're really really deep. And we'll

1385
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: get to Clippers or Lakers. Who's the best team out

1386
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 3: of LA? In preview number three?

1387
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

1388
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: I think it's the Clippers.

1389
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: Hey god, but.

1390
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to do the show now.

1391
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 3: You just sold me mo Heart makes him the best

1392
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: team in LA?

1393
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 2: All right?

1394
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: Next one fun one? Which player needs a nickname? We

1395
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: do this every year, try and pick a player and

1396
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: come up with a nickname, or at least, you know,

1397
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: throw one out there or ask for suggestions.

1398
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 9: Whatever.

1399
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: Who do you want to go?

1400
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 6: Who else to go first? I'll go first, I've got

1401
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 6: a guy who's going to be pushing for All Star

1402
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 6: selections soon in his career, if not this season. But

1403
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 6: he's just a two name guy, Jason Tatum. If you

1404
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 6: go to Basketball Reference, Yeah he's got he's got two nicknames,

1405
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 6: Jay just as in one letter, or Taco J. I've

1406
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 6: never heard him called Taco.

1407
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's Taco J.

1408
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 7: He's got some Twitter followers now definitely call him Taco J.

1409
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: Okay, how does Lebron feel about that?

1410
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, Taco Trey Kirby, Yeah, I'm one hundred percent in

1411
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 7: on it. I actually my nickname is his teammate Jalen Brown,

1412
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 7: because Jason and Jalen it's a a little bit confusing.

1413
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 7: And I knew about Taco J. So one of them

1414
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 7: needs the nickname. And there's this guy in the NFL

1415
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 7: who goes by Hollywood Brown. I'm like, that's an incredible name.

1416
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: That's good.

1417
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 7: So nickname plus Brown I think sounds good. So I'm like, okay,

1418
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 7: what are we gonna try? Third Eye Brown? He's really

1419
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 7: he's very much into yoga. But then I said it

1420
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 7: out loud and it's not a great nickname, Third Eye Brown.

1421
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 7: So I moved on to well, being Brown.

1422
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: That works.

1423
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,479
Speaker 7: Not very catchy, though, so I settled on Maryetta Brown.

1424
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 7: The guy's from Marietta, Georgia. Maryetta Brown sounds cool, like

1425
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 7: an investigator.

1426
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: Maybe.

1427
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's necessarily the nickname style he wants,

1428
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 7: but I think there's something there.

1429
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, sounds like a nice female name, Maryetta Brown.

1430
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: Sure.

1431
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 3: My guy is Dejonta Murray of the San Antonio Spurs,

1432
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: because I think he's a really good player that kind

1433
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 3: of flies under the radar. He was injured all last

1434
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 3: year and Dejonte could easily just be called Dijon for

1435
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 3: a nickname, because he is a bit of a hot

1436
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 3: dog out there. He's a bit spicy, and uh, I

1437
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 3: wanted to bounce back with a vengeance into his uh

1438
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 3: his bounce back year. I just it's also a name

1439
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 3: that people look at and maybe don't pronounce correctly. D

1440
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 3: E j O U n t E and uh, I

1441
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 3: don't know.

1442
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeahstard Man sounds good.

1443
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: Bustard Man. Did you have a did you have a suggestion?

1444
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: By the way, leave for for Tatum not really the problem.

1445
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 6: Okay, it's a tough one because j T. You cannot

1446
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 6: go with j t that's too common named Tatum.

1447
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 9: He's two names, I said before the open floor, Guys

1448
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 9: call Tatum like twelve time twelve time Tatum because of

1449
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 9: like the joke that he's going to make twelve All

1450
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 9: Star Games or maybe not a joke.

1451
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: Who knows first With the nicknames, I'm happy Joe Johnson

1452
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: is back in our life. Oh the Armadillo Cowboy is back,

1453
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: so that's great. But the person, the player, I guess

1454
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm going with that needs a nickname and I don't

1455
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: have one, so I'm open for suggestion. Canadian Nikhil Alexander Walker.

1456
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: He's you know, that's a long name. That's there's a

1457
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: whole lot of names there, so and he's good and

1458
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: I actually think he's gonna being a pretty solid player,

1459
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: and he's playing well. He's seventeenth pick, and I think

1460
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: he's surprising some people right now. He's a big sort

1461
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: of point guard like his cousin Shay Gilders. Alexander. Yeah,

1462
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: everybody in Canada's got the super long names now. But

1463
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: Zion has been quoted as saying Nikil is a bucket,

1464
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: so I don't know if there's something there. Gentry has

1465
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: talked about how He's a really confident player. Confident bordering

1466
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: on cockiness, is what Gentry said about any W. And

1467
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: then like that's the thing, any W.

1468
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: We just got na.

1469
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: Do we just call him nah? Or is there because

1470
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: it's any W, is there some sort of weird NWA angle?

1471
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 1: So is he do we go straight out of Canada

1472
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: in set it straight out of Compton? Or do you

1473
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: just call him easy with a little shout out to

1474
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: easy E from NWA? Do we call him dope?

1475
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 5: Man?

1476
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: There's a song. I mean, there's something maybe there, but

1477
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: that's it's a little clunky. But he needs a nickname.

1478
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: But maybe it's just straight up nah. I don't know,

1479
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, the initials is is a little too easy? Hellna,

1480
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: I don't know mc no instead of mc wren. There's something.

1481
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 6: Long name? No, Well what about he.

1482
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: Did he did go viral for his rendition of Vanessa

1483
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: Carlton's one thousand Miles during like they did like the

1484
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: karaoke contest for the rookies. Yeah, maybe there's something there.

1485
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. A thousand miles, a thousand letters in

1486
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: his name, I don't know.

1487
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 6: There's a thousand.

1488
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he needs one. It's what I'm getting here.

1489
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: He definitely needs one. All right. Our final question here

1490
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: for part two, what's going to be this season's biggest

1491
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: fashion trend? Trey, you gotta start us off here. It's

1492
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: all about neon hair colors. I don't know who it's

1493
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: gonna be. My two guesses would be Kelly Ubrey and

1494
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzma. Somebody's coming to the arena playing some games

1495
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: with pink hair, green hair, something extreme. The Dennis Rodman

1496
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: thirty for thirty came out over the summer. There were

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01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: there's like a montage of all of these different hairstyles

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Speaker 1: that he had, all the crazy different designs he would

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01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: have along with the colors back in the the end

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Speaker 1: of the Spurs era into the Bulls era nineties two thousands.

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01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: Fashion is very popular right now, somebody's gonna take the

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01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: plunge and come to the game with a crazy extreme

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Speaker 1: hair color.

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Speaker 6: Rather.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we saw George Hill have like platinum blonde

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Speaker 7: a couple of seasons ago.

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Speaker 2: That was a step in the right direction. This year,

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01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 2: we're going crazy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's probably gonna happen. You're sitting a great scene there,

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01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: all right, what about you guys?

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Speaker 6: Well, one of the biggest fashion losses for this season.

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01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,919
Speaker 6: We should put it in memoriam is the Kung Fu

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01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 6: head band?

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Speaker 2: Yeah tough?

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01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 6: What help with that?

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01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: Exactly? What's the problem with it?

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01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 6: Just because like what is angly? Maybe I don't know.

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01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: Or like we got to get them like official, did

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01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: they already have naked things on?

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01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 4: My thought?

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01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: Half the time?

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01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 2: It seems exactly half the time is what it seemed like.

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01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 7: It seems like they're probably waiting to figure out the

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01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 7: way to get the official tie of the NBA, and

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01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 7: then once we get that, you're flaying.

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01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to come back.

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01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 6: That's that's rightefully hopefully, because they're so cool they are.

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01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 7: You think you could ruck one, Yeah, like geezing off

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01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 7: into the distances.

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01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'll wear one. Sure, you know what. I

1531
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 6: don't know if this is actually technically allowed, but I

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01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 6: saw it at Media Day when Trey and I were

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01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 6: down here with the Atlanta Hawks. Evan Turner brought back

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01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 6: the name and numbers sweatband on his elbow because they

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01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 6: were kind of banned by David Stern. But you know,

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01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 6: like when they're not offensive, maybe people would just start

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01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 6: bringing them back in, you know.

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01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 2: Okay, like remember the defensive sweatbands.

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01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 6: Well, well, I mean like the answer when he so,

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01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 6: I wonder if I wonder if someone will just sort

1541
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 6: of try that again this season, slip it back in

1542
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 6: before anyone notices and before we know it. Then everyone's

1543
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 6: going to be having their name or their nickname or

1544
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,439
Speaker 6: whatever is because they're cool too, they're cool embroidered. Yeah, yeah,

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01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 6: I think we need them back.

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01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: Okay, where are you going?

1547
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 3: James Harden inspired my answer. He said, now, with Russell

1548
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 3: Westbrook on his team in Houston, it's going to be

1549
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 3: like a fashion show every night. Yeah, totally him. Those

1550
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 3: two PJ Tucker, Austin Rivers will get in on it.

1551
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 3: Even Nanna will get in on it.

1552
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 6: And a lot of shot out.

1553
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 2: If we get the ten shout outs, he gets paid.

1554
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 3: So he did say it's gonna be like a fashion

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01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 3: show every night. So I think the trend is going

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01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 3: to be guys walking in on red carpets into arena.

1557
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 3: There's gonna be They're gonna make it a whole show,

1558
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 3: two people rolling out that red carpet as the guys

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01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 3: just start walking on it, and you know, shash shashang

1560
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 3: a little bit, sashang a little bit doing their thing

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01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 3: on the red carpet. I think that that's that's what's

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01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 3: gonna happen. The rockets will start that it'll become a

1563
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 3: thing entrances even more extreme.

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01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Okay, I'm gonna go with this. The summer

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01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen in regards to the NBA was all

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01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: about duos.

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01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 3: Right.

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01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: We all have these duos on all these teams now,

1569
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: which is making this season look very exciting because it

1570
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: feels like they're seven, eight, nine, whatever, how many teams

1571
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: that could maybe win this thing because of all these

1572
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: awesome duos that have paired up and ones that exist

1573
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 1: and so on. So I think we got to take

1574
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 1: that and extend it into the fashion world with these guys.

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01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: I think what I'm getting at is we're gonna see

1576
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: duo costumes start showing up. You mentioned Harden and Westbrook there.

1577
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: That's interesting task because yeah, you would think like they're

1578
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 1: trying to maybe one up each other with what they're

1579
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: wearing and getting the clicks and stuff like that. But

1580
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: maybe they're if they're if they're such bros, maybe they

1581
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: come up with duo costumes and like, I don't even

1582
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: know what that even means like if they're both like

1583
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: one of the one guys, like they have suits, but like, hey,

1584
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: you wear the pants and I'll wear the jacket top

1585
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: and then I'll do the same with yours. That'd be

1586
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I can't remember that having ever been done.

1587
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: That would be you know, that would be new. But

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01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: maybe it's just even with around Halloween coming up, maybe

1589
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: it's just more like maybe it is the classic you know,

1590
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 1: your salt on pepper or you're the hot dog and

1591
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm the hamburger, whatever ketchup and.

1592
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 6: SPI versus spy.

1593
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 7: You guys wear the exact same, but one of them

1594
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 7: wears all black, one of them where is all white?

1595
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1596
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's something here, something to do. Yeah, And

1597
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: I look, I called a couple years ago, I called turtlenecks.

1598
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: Don't forget that. That's my greatest prediction of all time.

1599
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 1: I said, turtlenecks, we're gonna be big, and then suddenly

1600
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: everybody was showing up in turtleneckt So I think we're

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01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: gonna see some duo costumes and they'll get creative with

1602
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: how they roll those out. But let's hear from you guys.

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01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: Jump on Twitter hashtag No Dunk's biggest fashion trend, who

1604
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: needs a nickname? And all the actual real NBA questions

1605
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 1: that we were talking about previewing the upcoming season. That's

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Speaker 1: it for part two. We'll call it there. Follow us

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Speaker 1: That's it for part two, though we will see you

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Speaker 1: guys on Wednesday.

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Speaker 6: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 6: Love you guys.

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Speaker 2: Awesome preview three coming up.

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Speaker 3: Who's the best team in LA? Great question, Skeats, you

1620
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Speaker 3: just said it best. I think that's gonna be my quote.

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01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember that's what it's all about,

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01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 3: talking ball.

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Speaker 1: Brace today, people,