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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my.

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Speaker 3: Name is Nolan.

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Speaker 4: They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 4: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Faga. If you are

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Speaker 4: tuned into listener mail the Evening to publishers, welcome to Thursday,

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Speaker 4: November twentieth. Side note, we're recording this on November nineteenth.

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Speaker 4: We have so much to get to today, guys. But

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Speaker 4: first and foremost, as we know, we can't do this

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Speaker 4: without some vegas and they gotta be rudea Are we

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Speaker 4: going to dig them up?

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Speaker 5: Are you go?

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Speaker 4: It's Rudabaga time, Tennessee.

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Speaker 6: If you will, welcome back to Ben Barkley and the

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Speaker 6: Dogs in the Morning. Now, where am i Pucci?

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Speaker 3: Friends?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Before we play another hour of nothing but hits, we

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Speaker 6: have a special guest, Professor Jan Warmouth. You guys, hear

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Speaker 6: about this big asteroid coming our way, Well, this guy

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Speaker 6: says it's a rude biga crazy right.

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Speaker 3: Professor Warmoth shall we be worried.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we are in grieved danger.

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Speaker 3: This root vegetable is hurtling towards us and could make impact.

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Speaker 3: It is the size of a football field.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of football, who here loves the pensacle of potatoes?

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Speaker 3: Do you think they have a chance this year?

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Speaker 2: Jam? I do not know about football. This is very serious.

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Speaker 3: Well that's a bummer. Anyway.

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Speaker 6: Let's dig up some tuns and we'll be back with

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Speaker 6: more on this asteroid thing.

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Speaker 3: Here's moves like Jagger five times in a row.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Dylan, you do the best disaffected like bro voice

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Speaker 5: I've ever heard in my life, and I adore it.

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Speaker 4: Love your voice work there, Dylan. I mean, obviously, these

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Speaker 4: are glimpses into realities just one step away from our own.

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Speaker 5: And a glimpse into the genius mind of super producer

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Speaker 5: Dylan Dennessee Palfay.

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Speaker 2: Can we please start some X hype about getting Dylan

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Speaker 2: on the radio some rude Beega radio actually come on.

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Speaker 4: It's time doing big in the rude Bega verse, which,

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Speaker 4: weirdly enough, sounds like something I could say with a

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Speaker 4: straight face at a Ted talk. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yes, so radio, Rude Bega radio rude to bega verse. Uh,

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Speaker 4: we're here for it, and we are so glad you're

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Speaker 4: here with us. We're gonna take a break for a

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Speaker 4: word from our sponsor, and then we're going to get

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Speaker 4: to some messages from you.

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Speaker 5: And we have returned with today's first bit of listen

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Speaker 5: or correspondents coming to us from Saturn. Not the planet,

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Speaker 5: maybe not the car company, maybe sure well, okay, for sure, no,

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Speaker 5: I'm with you, but possibly from the reaches of the

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Speaker 5: black ink that is outer space. But for now we're

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Speaker 5: gonna call our listener Saturn, who's asked us to do so. Hello,

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Speaker 5: and howdy call me Saturn. I was just listening to

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Speaker 5: your show about secret underground bunkers, a bang Ron episode.

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Speaker 5: If you ask me, that was me, Noel Brown. And

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Speaker 5: when y'all mentioned long term loud noise complaints, I got

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Speaker 5: a chill. I live in Minneapolis in a neighborhood called Longfellow.

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Speaker 5: We love Minneapolis. It is just off the Mississippi River

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Speaker 5: and I do love it, but we have a local

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Speaker 5: noise called the Longfellow Boom, and it has me wondering

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Speaker 5: about the series Better call Saul. We're in some German

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Speaker 5: engineers build this underground bunker meth lab situation, and in

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Speaker 5: order to do it, they have to set off these

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Speaker 5: you know, charges, explosions that controlled demolition to build these tunnels,

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Speaker 5: and in order to disguise this, they do it like

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Speaker 5: when a train is passing. Matt said something that led

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Speaker 5: I went onto the next door website, where I've seen

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Speaker 5: it myself. It sounds like an explosion and is a

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Speaker 5: rough thing to wake up to. So where did all

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Speaker 5: So I'm attaching those screenshots. But now I'm really starting

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Speaker 5: to wonder is there something being built right underneath our feet?

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Speaker 5: Maybe not, but I thought it was interesting enough that

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Speaker 5: fabulous show. Take care Saturn.

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Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, I need some help, guys, super

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Speaker 2: dumb question. How would you describe a bluff?

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Speaker 5: Isn't a bluff like a cliff side?

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Speaker 2: I just genuinely don't know because I'm imagining Minneapolis and

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Speaker 4: A genre of essentially? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Okay, yes, think of something leading up to a beach

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're formed through erosion.

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Speaker 5: Bluffs on where changing elevation, you know, cliff sides along

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Speaker 2: Okay them, Well, I could see that as a viable

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Speaker 5: You've already got an exposed, relatively soft place to start,

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Speaker 5: you know, drilling in to get to you know, to

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Speaker 5: the site of your potential underground city or bunker or.

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Speaker 4: At least, like we always say, let geography do the work,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and then the boring company will do the rest company.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, boring. I only just now got that connection

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Speaker 5: But yeah, they may they do. They do literally drill holes.

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Speaker 5: several decades, people living near the Mississippi River in South

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Speaker 5: Minneapolis have reported hearing what's become known as the Longfellow Boom.

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Speaker 5: So describe it as a house shakingly, loud, booming, or

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Speaker 5: what is causing the sound, and then they linked to

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Speaker 5: a quite good article in the Star Tribunes Curious Minnesota section,

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Speaker 5: what is causing the mysterious Longfellow Boom In South Minneapolis.

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Speaker 5: Neighbors near the Mississippi River have been searching for the

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Speaker 5: cause of these house shakingly loud noises. Here's the kicker,

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Speaker 5: y'all for decades a long construction project. Sounds to me.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's more as a result of some sort of

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Speaker 5: does seem to be on the short list for potential

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Speaker 5: causes of this phenomenon. But I do like the thought

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Speaker 5: related to secret construction projects.

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Speaker 2: What do you guys think, Oh, yeah, that's super fun.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if there's something nearby that I just don't

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Speaker 2: noticing that the Minneapolis Saint Paul International Airport is pretty

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Speaker 4: Like attached to that airport.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is, which makes me think about planes that

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Speaker 2: could cause sonic booms coming in and.

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Speaker 5: Out of that is that's on the list. Buddy, you

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Speaker 5: nailed it. And we do have a tweet here from

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Speaker 5: council member Andrew Johnson. City Council there in Minneapolis St.

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Speaker 5: Paul area says we've been looking into that loud boom

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Speaker 5: last night. He's talking specifically about one particular occurrence of

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Speaker 5: the boom, predominantly in the Longfellow area around ten thirty pm.

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Speaker 5: Fire crews were dispatched but unable to find anything and

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Speaker 5: did not detect any smoke or gas. Excel Energy says

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Speaker 5: no transformers were blown another on the shortlist, and no

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Speaker 5: not aware of anyone who witnessed the source of the noise.

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Speaker 5: Folks who have lived in the neighborhood for a while

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Speaker 5: and may remember that there were a series of mysterious

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Speaker 5: a decade. Perhaps this is a continuation. Curious to hear

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Speaker 5: My office will continue to check in with our various

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Speaker 5: partner agencies to see what we can turn up. This

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Speaker 5: is actually a Facebook post, so we've got some nice

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Speaker 5: boomer responses here twenty one years. This person responds, having

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Speaker 5: experience this phenomenon for that long, I heard it in Standish,

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Speaker 5: kind of scary that no one knows where it came from.

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Speaker 5: It brought everyone on my block out of their homes.

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Speaker 5: It not only shook windows, that shook our houses. We

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Speaker 5: thought a plane or helicopter crashed, maybe a house blew up.

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Speaker 5: Police and fire were called. Nothing was This sounds like

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Speaker 5: a terrifyingly disruptive sound. Nothing was ever discovered. It's a mystery.

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Speaker 5: My neighborhood still talks about this. Sounds very familiar. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: let's see one last one. There used to be regular

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Speaker 5: booms ten plus years ago that shook the house, and

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Speaker 5: went to the window. Last night's boom sounded more like

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Speaker 5: some giant metal thing slamming into the ground. There was

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Speaker 5: something metallic about it. Democracy Now had a boom discussion

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Speaker 5: can you think of some other analogs to this, Maybe

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Speaker 5: the windsor hum?

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Speaker 4: I think yeah. And Saturn, first off, thank you so

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Speaker 4: much for reaching out. We're gonna send you some links

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Speaker 4: in our email correspondence here because, as it turns out

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Speaker 4: to that earlier question, there are a lot of unidentified booms.

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Speaker 4: One that happened recently, our returning guest, is occurring across

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Speaker 4: the high desert out there in San Bernardino. The US

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Speaker 4: Geological Survey has confirmed there's no significant seismic activity. But guys,

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Speaker 4: let me give you a review of what we're gonna

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Speaker 4: go send over to Saturn here, putting the link in

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Speaker 4: the chat. There are loud booms going across so many

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Speaker 4: and I think, I think we're onto something with the

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Speaker 4: idea of military activity or secret excavations. It's actually kind

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Speaker 4: of tough to find the records of this, especially when Saturn,

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Speaker 4: like Noel was saying, especially when people can't concretely, definitively

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Speaker 2: And we've returned and we are jumping to the voicemail lines. Guys,

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Speaker 7: Hey, Jen, it's good old Russ here. You can use

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Speaker 6: And what I was.

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Speaker 7: Thinking was, what if this whole threatening the kids was

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Speaker 7: oh my god, if I don't give you closed, you're

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Speaker 7: gonna kill you. No, it's hey, I have to give

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Speaker 7: Don't blame me that you guys quoted Christmas. You know

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Speaker 7: I'm looking out for you anyway. Keep it the great word, guys,

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Speaker 7: just a thought. I'll check you, guys. Letter Dylan, you're

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Speaker 5: That's good.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's the system, it says folklore. I love it.

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Speaker 5: Heard agree read Dylan being the best. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 5: it's certainly one way you could spin it to your kids,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, good old Russ.

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Speaker 2: But honestly, good ol Russ. We do appreciate your insight

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Speaker 2: there and your idea. We put that in there because

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Speaker 2: of the shout out to Dylan. Dylan needs more love,

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Speaker 4: We call for it in the email and on social

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Speaker 5: Oh and we also call for it leaving nice reviews

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Speaker 4: M m well said, Yeah, every time we get a

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Speaker 2: That's right, it just says great job, boys. But then

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Speaker 4: Also exclamation mark? You gotta be careful with those. Good

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Speaker 4: We don't want to derail too far. But your logic

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think I think in this house we're

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Speaker 4: Then I got your back, man, I gotta I got

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Speaker 5: I mean, like pull of heist in your cat suit.

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Speaker 2: That would be amazing. All right, we're jumping to a

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Speaker 8: Here we go, Hey, guys, I was just listening to

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Speaker 5: That's it, dude, that's so cool. I've been working my

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Speaker 9: Silver Blaze eighteen ninety two and It's it's interesting here, Anonymous,

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Speaker 2: announced deals as races, and another like a race, and

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00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: then another company's prospective merger, the two partners as girls

438
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 2: and or mod So they were having email exchanges talking

439
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 2: about what they were doing. Just it's not stuff that

440
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: would ping on a metadata search or something.

441
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 4: So it would be something like, hey, everybody, the girls

442
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 4: and models are running green. There's a race.

443
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was Yeah, but I'm assuming I don't

444
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 2: know exactly how it would be worth, right, But like

445
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 2: somehow in there they can talk openly just with those phrases, and.

446
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 4: They probably they probably have a different window of usage, right,

447
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 4: not to get too into the weeds, but they wouldn't

448
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 4: have an entire sentence with all the keywords in it.

449
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: It would be like, oh, hey, how you doing. The

450
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 4: weather's great today, I went running outside, and then like

451
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 4: two other innocuous sentences, something about girls and or models,

452
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 4: something about greens. You know what I mean. There's an

453
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 4: art to it.

454
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is weird thinking that you might have a

455
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: conversation just if thinking to your well, you might have

456
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 2: a conversation one time about the compromat you've been accruing

457
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: over the course of decades, And like, if you're doing

458
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: that already, are you nervous about somebody finding your email?

459
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 2: You know, because you've got all this compromat on everybody

460
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 2: that might find your email and want to hurt you.

461
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 4: You know, I've been thinking about that, you guys, because

462
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 4: now we get to the argument or the consideration of

463
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 4: the following theory, which will probably interest you. Aid on

464
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 4: would it be possible to just especially with automation and

465
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 4: AI trash programs, would it be possible to just inundate

466
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 4: your suspicious email address with a bunch of wackadoo funny?

467
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 4: Why would I read this stuff? You know what I mean? So,

468
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 4: for like every one email you have that has some

469
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 4: sort of relevant or pertinent information, you have a thousand

470
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 4: others that shoot out that are just calling back to

471
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 4: our earlier episode. They're just your opinions about Star Wars,

472
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. You think we could get

473
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 4: away with that?

474
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: I think you could if you made if you made

475
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: that thing, like that fictional thing that you're creating and

476
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: cooking up workshopping with somebody over email, make that fictional

477
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 2: thing the same thing or very similar to the thing

478
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: you're actually doing. So then now it's impossible to tell

479
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 2: why are they talking about something real or are they

480
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: talking about this fictitional world that they're building.

481
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit of role playing blur the lines

482
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 4: between reality and fiction. So if we were to give

483
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: notes to Jeffrey Epstein, we have a few. If we

484
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 4: were not on a list, though, Folks, if we were

485
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 4: to give some notes, if you want to use things

486
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 4: like a dog that hasn't barked, then if you want

487
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 4: to get away with that and convey that information in

488
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 4: a secure way, have a bunch of other information, other

489
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: emails about dogs and barking versus howling, and you know

490
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 4: you can do BA and the Dog Show, whatever the

491
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 4: dog show is. You know, be a person who talks

492
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 4: about dogs, and then you can slide some slick in there.

493
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 4: Thank you for the beep, Dylan.

494
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: Dude, some weird stuff is going on with the Epstein thing.

495
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: It got approve.

496
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 5: Okay with that guy. Was he trying to make a

497
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 5: statement that he not get the memo of what.

498
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: Going Yeah, it's a symbolic thing Congress does this all

499
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 4: the time for any political stripe. If you already know

500
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: the way the wind blows, shout out to Bob Dylan. Uh,

501
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 4: you don't have to be the weather man, right, You

502
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 4: can make a symbolic stance that does not affect what's

503
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 4: going to happen.

504
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you could say he's only like, Hey, I'm

505
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: just worried this is going to affect some people in

506
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 2: ways that we don't understand yet, unintentional consequences. A little

507
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: worried about that.

508
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 4: It's a new conversation.

509
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: Whatever.

510
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 4: Also, thank you for the campaign donations.

511
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll see what happens there. We're gonna have to

512
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: just keep our ears to the ground because it's going

513
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: to get weirder and weirder. Speaking of weirder and weirder, guys,

514
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: do you remember Inconspicuous's near death experience from last week?

515
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, quite excited about this.

516
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: Well, apparently he didn't finish, so we we didn't even

517
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: we don't even know his full near death experience. So

518
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: he called back in with a little more information and

519
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: it's kind of beautiful. So let's jump to inconspicuous.

520
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 10: Hello, jents, this is Inconspicuous again. You put me on

521
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 10: air last week, which, of course you can do the

522
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 10: same with this one if you'd like. I'm following up

523
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 10: because I only got half of my near death experience

524
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 10: out to you before the three minute mark. So here

525
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 10: goes the rest. Okay past sell light energy medieval scene.

526
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 10: There were beings around and all of them were made

527
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 10: of light energy. Just the happiest place you get ever

528
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 10: possibly beat. And I had a guide. The guide was

529
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 10: much taller than me, no distinguishable features other than a

530
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 10: humanoid form made of light energy. Guided me into said castle,

531
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 10: where every brick was radiating at a different light spectrum.

532
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 10: Everyone was unique, and I felt like this was purposely

533
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 10: meant for me. So we walked down the corridor and

534
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 10: I stopped, and you know, nothing was verbal, but I

535
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 10: got the indication that I was supposed to look into

536
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 10: one of these bricks. I remember thinking and feeling that,

537
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 10: oh my gosh, I'm going to find out all the

538
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 10: answers to the universe and everything right forty two So

539
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 10: I poke my head into one of these bricks of light,

540
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Speaker 10: and I was instantly looking through the eyes of a

541
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Speaker 10: very young toddler, and it felt like it was an

542
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 10: central park. I was a little child, a little girl

543
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Speaker 10: to be more specific, and I have a daughter and

544
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 10: had a daughter at this time. So I was like, well,

545
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 10: I know that this isn't one of my memories. I

546
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 10: know that this is not my daughter's memory because I

547
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 10: look completely different than her, and I would have remembered

548
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 10: we've ever been to New York or to any clean,

549
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 10: extravagant park like that. I immediately realized that I was being

550
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 10: given a choice to accept a new life or go

551
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 10: back to the old one that I wasn't finished with.

552
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 10: So I immediately got angry, and I was shot back

553
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 10: into my body and I woke up smiling, have a

554
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 10: good night.

555
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 5: Well it's incredible, you know what makes me think of

556
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 5: I don't mean to joke, but like that episode of

557
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 5: The Simpsons where mister Burns is wandering through the forest

558
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 5: like glowing and things like I bring you long peace,

559
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 5: Just in terms of the entity of it all and

560
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 5: the glowing, you know, native energy, that's where my mind.

561
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 5: It's a great episode.

562
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure it is Simpson's Rocks, but it is

563
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: reminiscent of other NDEs we've heard about in the past. Right,

564
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: this concept of whether you know in this case, it's

565
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: luminous bricks. Other cases, it's almost like windows that you're

566
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: looking through and it's just other people's perceptions or other

567
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: people's lives, and you're kind of walking through a gallery

568
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: of some sort. It's very, very cool, And I just

569
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: love the way you presented it in conspicuous because it

570
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 2: it sounds like something I would want to do. Hmm.

571
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you in conspicuous, you've probably heard this before.

572
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 4: But what you are describing tells us, or at least me,

573
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 4: that you are not alone in this experience, because so

574
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 4: many people have reported similar phenomenon, right, Like you were saying, Matt,

575
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 4: there's this there's this commonality at least in self reporting

576
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 4: that still sort of baffles science. Neurologists are still trying

577
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: to figure out exactly what's going on. Your description of

578
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 4: the as Noel said, luminescent, sort of friendly mister Burns

579
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 4: character reminds me of our episode on Third Man Syndrome.

580
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 4: Do you guys remember that?

581
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 5: Of course, like the Jesus footprints.

582
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: Yeah thing, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, footprints in the sand.

583
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 4: There's this fascinating thing where a lot of people who

584
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: have indes or near death experiences describe not only a

585
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 4: huge shift in perspective, but they describe meeting other entities

586
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 4: that are usually going to be benevolent and wise and helpful.

587
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: And if you want to learn more about this, check

588
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: out the story of Ernest Shackleton, I want to say,

589
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 4: the Arctic Explorer. He's the one who popularized the concept

590
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 4: of third man syndrome. I don't know. I keep going

591
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: back to those episodes and Conspicuous because in those we find,

592
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: I mean, without getting into all the hair splitting stuff

593
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: about scientific method, we find a lot of people who

594
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 4: have provably had a near death experience reporting a lot

595
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 4: of the same things. Although I got to say I'm

596
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 4: with the team here on this one man. That description

597
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: of uniquely light attuned different bricks in a castle, Come on,

598
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 4: that's amazing. That's just phenomenal storytelling too. Well.

599
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the concept that you each one of those

600
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: is if you hook yourself up to it in such

601
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: a way that can become your perception. Ah, the bricks

602
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: of perception.

603
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 4: I see, it's a segue.

604
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: Huh. Well, we talked about the doors of perception recently,

605
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: and I think I made some not good joke about it.

606
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: The book being about addiction, or something because it was

607
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: drug related. But then just we're not going to share it,

608
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: Cactus RX. But Cactus RX send in a voicemail just saying, Hey,

609
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: that's not what Doors of Perception is about. It's about

610
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: mesculine and peyote and you know some pretty hefty things.

611
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: It's not addiction. And you're absolutely right.

612
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 4: However, Aldus Huxley did write Brave New World, right, Hey,

613
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 4: the pepsi to the Coca Cola of Warwell's nineteen eighty

614
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 4: four God that works. Okay, that works well, keep it does.

615
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 4: But the issue with addiction in Brave New World is

616
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 4: quite apparent because the society forces people to ingest certain things.

617
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, payota.

618
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 5: I can I ask yes something really quickly. Is it

619
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 5: still considered addiction if it's a prescribed medication, like something

620
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 5: that you rely on for mental health, For example, like

621
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 5: I ran out of a medication, uh a, you know

622
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 5: what's the word. I'm looking for anti anxiety antidepressant kind

623
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 5: of medication for the first time since I've been taking it,

624
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 5: and I really felt it, like I felt withdrawal. I

625
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 5: felt real, not good, and it made me really realize

626
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 5: how much my brain depends on these substances, even though

627
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 5: I think addiction is a term thrown around more, you know,

628
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 5: around illegal drugs or around drug abuse, but we are

629
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 5: all still addicted to the medications we are prescribed.

630
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 4: Right. There's a you know, I really appreciate that point.

631
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 4: And there's a dependency conversation, right, and addiction.

632
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 5: Is dependency versus addiction, right, And so.

633
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: Like, if you have a physiological medical condition, like a

634
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 4: lot of us in the audience tonight, then should we

635
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: say you are addicted to a heart medication when we

636
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 4: know that a month without that medication will result in

637
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 4: your death. I think that's a really interesting conversation we

638
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 4: can explore further.

639
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: Uh huh, all right, Well, that's it for now on

640
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: the voicemail systems. We will be back with more messages

641
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: from you.

642
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 4: And we have returned a fellow conspiracy realist. As you

643
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 4: probably know, hopefully know, we had an episode for the

644
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 4: Halloween season about the concept of selling one's soul, and

645
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 4: I think we were all mutually fascinated by the nuances involved.

646
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: We heard from an awesome guy we're going to call

647
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 4: pastor Jeff. We heard from a lot of other people

648
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 4: about the idea of selling their souls. And then we

649
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 4: also had a lot of correspondence about the First Amendment.

650
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 4: We don't have time to get to all of these,

651
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 4: So if we're okay with it, I propose that we

652
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Speaker 4: talk about the follow up responses to our conversation about China.

653
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 4: And you know what makes an influencer legitimate? Yeah? Okay?

654
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 4: For brief recap of this, folks, we had the news

655
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: in a recent Strange News program about the government of

656
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 4: Chia's plan to require certain influencers to have bona fides

657
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 4: to prove that if you are talking about finance law

658
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 4: or medicine specifically, says Uncle G and the Boys, then

659
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 4: you have to also provide certification, a diploma, a degree,

660
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: something like that, so that the people encountering that social

661
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 4: media aren't just talking to a rando who woke up

662
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 4: one day and said Swiss cheese is the key to

663
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: curing diabetes or something like that.

664
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: It's tail and all, you guys, it's.

665
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: Til and all yes, And check out our ridiculous history

666
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 4: episode that published recently on the Chicago Thailand All Murders

667
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 4: shout out to our research associated on that one. Dylan, Sorry, Dylan,

668
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: different Dylan You're always going to be our Tennessee, So

669
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 4: here we go. Buford gives us a very thoughtful response

670
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 4: to our conversation about a dilemma that I think we

671
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: as a group are still dithering over and perhaps mithering

672
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 4: other people about. So Beewford, you say hello again, Ben, Matt,

673
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 4: and Nole. I am listening to the latest Strange News program,

674
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: and your discussion on how China is attempting to control

675
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: the spread of misinformation or disinformation on social media touches

676
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 4: on something I've been thinking about quite a bit lately.

677
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 4: Should the First Amendment offer the same protections online as

678
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 4: an American? Says Buford. My knee jerk response is, of course,

679
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 4: But after further reflection, I questioned that reaction, and this

680
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 4: goes back to what we're talking about. With what we've

681
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 4: been saying for years, technology always outpaces legislation. Should the

682
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 4: First Amendment apply to digital public forums? Knowing that the

683
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 4: Internet has no real borders? You know what I mean?

684
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 4: Like is going onto TikTok and us saying wait, we

685
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: use Swiss cheese and diabetes with something else, just making

686
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 4: a crazy claim, like saying, hey, choose or just gloves

687
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: for your feet? Wait? No, that's actually true.

688
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: Okay, I think I understand. I mean, but isn't this

689
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 5: sort of the very nature of free speech, like such

690
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 5: a big part of the way we exercise free speech

691
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 5: these days is online. So isn't that just inevitably going

692
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 5: to and get swept up into, you know, crackdowns on

693
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 5: free speech potentially? Is there any way that it is

694
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 5: somehow exempt from that. I don't know that it is

695
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 5: even harder. Yeah, but I don't know.

696
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's great, man, because that's the badger in

697
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 4: the bag, right. Beufrey continues and says, the concept of freedom,

698
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: at least to me, carries with it a sense of

699
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 4: personal responsibility and accountability. One should not be completely free

700
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 4: to act if they are not held to account for

701
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 4: their actions. And conversely, people who are not acting of

702
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 4: their own free will are usually granted some leniency. Right, So,

703
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 4: if you're making somebody, you know, shout anti Falloung Gong

704
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 4: messages on a street corner, or if you're, like, if

705
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: you're making a kid, a six year old or something,

706
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 4: trot out on Pennsylvania Avenue and say some wild stuff

707
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 4: they don't understand about the Federal Reserve? Is that freedom

708
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: of speech for the kid is that does the kid

709
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 4: have agency? I don't know. This is such deep water.

710
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: Doesn't it feel like free speech is one of the

711
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: coolest things that exists, one of the most important things

712
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: that exist. But doesn't it also feel like it is

713
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: kind of a thing that's getting us in a lot

714
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: of hot spots, like a lot of trouble lately, just

715
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: when it comes to what the nature of truth and

716
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: belief and all of these things, the things that make

717
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: us human.

718
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it really becomes a who watches the

719
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 4: Watchmen scenario? Right or the The dilemma here is, Okay,

720
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 4: if any given community, nation, tribe, civilization, whatever, if they

721
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 4: decide that for the greater good, freedom of speech has

722
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 4: to be mitigated or disallowed, then who gets to tell

723
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 4: you when to shut up? You know what I mean?

724
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 4: Who's in charge of the of the conversation there? I

725
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: think it's super sticky. I don't know if there's an

726
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 4: actual right answer on this one. I don't know about you, guys,

727
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 4: but I've been thinking about this for a while. It's

728
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 4: really bugging me.

729
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: The answer is, quit social media.

730
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 4: Answers, Quit social media, stop sipping them social meds for

731
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: you continue, you say, we also know that humans act

732
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 4: differently when they feel shielded from accountability. Mob mentality will

733
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 4: lead people to do things as part of a group

734
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 4: that they would never do individually. Screen Names and avatars

735
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 4: give people a sense of anonymity that allows them to

736
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: speak and act in ways that they otherwise Wouldn't I

737
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 4: think we could all agree with that, right sure, Like

738
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 4: if it's if if if you meet somebody in the

739
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 4: street and you talk to them in physical proximity, they're

740
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 4: gonna behave differently than they would if they were YouTube

741
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 4: butt Rock six' nine x six' nine x. On YouTube.

742
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: Have we talked about, that before the concept of having

743
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: the real names on, the internet so every account would

744
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: be your.

745
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 5: Actual tied to some sort of like, you know the

746
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 5: irrefutable bit of, personal data whether it be like a

747
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: social or driver's license or what. Have, You right and

748
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 5: we're pushing back against that even and like getting age

749
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 5: verified for. Porn sites i'm, just saying like there's an

750
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 5: argument out there where people, are, like no this is

751
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 5: the slipperiest.

752
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 4: Of slopes the law In The united kingdom we, talked

753
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 4: about which is rolling out and then of course one for.

754
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 4: The gooners as you mentioned the idea of age. Of,

755
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 4: VERIFICATION yeah i remember responding to YouTube comments on our

756
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 4: original channel and having people surprise that were applied back

757
00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 4: and the tenor of their conversation totally changed because they

758
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 4: We hacked, dunbar's, number right and now they're talking to

759
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: an actual entity instead of some faceless channel on. The

760
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: INTERNET but i, DO think i, Don't know i'm so

761
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: torn About this Natalie and, bruglia's style because people do

762
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 4: behave differently when they're anonymous or when they feel that they.

763
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: Are anonymous how dare you make that song play in?

764
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 4: My head, so, no, wait wait do? It again.

765
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 5: You know that's actually. A cover there's an original version

766
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 5: of that that's not nearly, as good but they didn't

767
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 5: really get much love.

768
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 4: FOR that i, JUST think i Think because Natalie, and

769
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 4: brugli we're a huge fan of. Your work by, the

770
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 4: way thanks for. Tuning in Natalie and bruglia's Cover of

771
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 4: torn is beautiful to me because they kept in the, deep,

772
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 4: Inhalations right.

773
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 5: That's where the passion is expressed in the in.

774
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 4: The inhales and we say that, as fans and you

775
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 4: know the names that we use here In The, united,

776
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: States folks so we're not. Being anonymous i'm.

777
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: A professional i move my MOUTH when i breathe on.

778
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: The microphone does anybody remember What that's.

779
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 4: And, so beaufort in the spirit Of, chocolate brain continues,

780
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 4: and says if that sense of responsibility and personal accountability is,

781
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 4: not present then whatever it is that we're talking about

782
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 4: can really no longer be described. As freedom it would be.

783
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 4: Something else and is that, something else something that? Deserves,

784
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 4: PROTECTION beaufort i think you are right there with us

785
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 4: and all our fellow listeners trying to figure out whether

786
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 4: there is a silver bullet, solve, everything panacea or solution.

787
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 4: To this because. You continue that's not TO say i

788
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 4: necessarily agree With how china is approaching, the issue but

789
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 4: like you all said, ABOUT it i am torn lying

790
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 4: naked on. The floor, of course brought away, From you natalie.

791
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: For YOU but i do think it's, a Mistake, says

792
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 4: BUFORD to equatee speaking to a crowd in the town

793
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 4: square to post you online from a semi anonymous social,

794
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 4: media handle those are very. DIFFERENT things i think it's

795
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 4: also worth remembering That The first amendment protects our right

796
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 4: to say whatever we feel but it does not protect

797
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 4: our access to a platform we don't own in order

798
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 4: to amplify. Our message kind of like we were talking, about,

799
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 4: again right the quote unquote public square of social media is,

800
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: privately owned so anybody who owns the thing can kick

801
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 4: you off at any time and there's nothing you can do,

802
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 4: about it you KNOW what? I? Mean yeah so is

803
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 4: that freedom? Of? SPEECH all.

804
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: I REALLY wish i wasn't as into this WHOLE verify.

805
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 2: I Am i'm i'm a little, into IT and i

806
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,479
Speaker 2: REALLY wish.

807
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 5: I wasn't i, Am, TOO matt i TRULY say i

808
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 5: see the benefit of it and does not feel so

809
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 5: much awful things result from people being able to be,

810
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 5: completely ANONYMOUS and i don't know that that's like. A

811
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 5: feature it feels like the ability for people to do

812
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 5: things without.

813
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 4: Consequences exactly i'm ON the i think we're all on

814
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 4: the same, page here because the, social technology the social

815
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 4: compact has to evolve and step with what we, call

816
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 4: technology and that hasn't. Happened yet who knows when it's going.

817
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 4: TO happen i, keep thinking, you know we always talk

818
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 4: about the greater, good, argument right would we be willing

819
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: to sacrifice some liberty for. Some security that is an

820
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: old conversation and it keeps. Coming back we cannot wait

821
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 4: to hear, your thoughts friends. And neighbors fellow conspiracy Realist like,

822
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 4: buford said we don't know what the answer is or

823
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 4: what the best course of, action is but it's something

824
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 4: that's been on our minds a whole lot in. Recent

825
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 4: years and we are, Paraphrasing, you BUFORD and i hope

826
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 4: you like that we included ourselves in your last, sentence

827
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: there because it's it's something that everybody in this escape

828
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 4: room called life is going to have to, Figure out

829
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 4: prato like sooner than. You think we didn't want this

830
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 4: to end on a. Sad note so we do have

831
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 4: something that is not a great. Moral quandary we have

832
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 4: some breaking. Food news, you, guys, yeah yeah. Yeah yeah,

833
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 4: and folks if you think you're ready, strap in you

834
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 4: might not. Be ready, our pal longtime friend of, The Show,

835
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 4: chef ben introduced us to a. Phenomenal concept inspired in

836
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 4: part by our early explorations of, The Farrito chef ben

837
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 4: has created something he Calls. In CHILADZAGNA what i love

838
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 4: it already.

839
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: Is that like.

840
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 4: It's, it's uh look the research. Is, ongoing, okay guys

841
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 4: but it does appear from our intel to be both lasagna. And,

842
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 4: Enchiladas okay and the word just hums you KNOW what.

843
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 4: I mean it's a real, longfellow boom. ENCHILADA zaya i.

844
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: DON'T agree. I agree i just didn't hear a lot

845
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: of humming in that boom that, we heard.

846
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 4: That's all oh, yeah yeah and play that part, back.

847
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 4: Again folks, OH yeah i, don't know, but, yeah, yeah.

848
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah well one person's hum is another, person's, SCREAM right.

849
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: I.

850
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 4: Don't know this is why you might need a degree

851
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 4: to be. An Influencer But chef ben does have his.

852
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 4: Bona FIDES and i got to, ask you what do

853
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 4: we think About? ENCHILADA zada i just like. Saying it sign.

854
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 5: Me up and that's the most important thing is that

855
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 5: the name rolls off, the tongue which we've demonstrated that it.

856
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 5: Clearly does so what could?

857
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: Go wrong, oh yeah do we have?

858
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 4: The recipe we don't have. The recipe the intel's not,

859
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 4: there yet but we do have some on the ground audio.

860
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 4: Visual footage oh, MY god. I know It's The cold

861
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 4: war all. Over again so what we know from initial

862
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 4: reporting is that this is a smoked pulled pork in.

863
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 4: Chilada zagna so that is our.

864
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