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Speaker 4: Hi, Rob, Hey, Joy, how are you.
Speaker 3: I'm doing pretty well, doing pretty well.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 3: You have Robin I today and we've got a Q
Speaker 3: and A for you. Yeah, I'm doing well. Maria's like
Speaker 3: in her first days of school. So far, so good.
Speaker 3: We're trying to implement a new schedule because she's a
Speaker 3: bit neurodivergent like me, and you know, can have a
Speaker 3: hard time like getting the homework done or it's always
Speaker 3: like oh, I forgot that this was due, and why
Speaker 3: don't you your planner. I didn't know where the planner was,
Speaker 3: you know, all the things. So I had to write
Speaker 3: up this contract. It's like a parental contract. Like here's
Speaker 3: if you sign your name to something, you're making a commitment.
Speaker 3: So the understanding of that, and then like, here's what
Speaker 3: the schedule is going to be. Like you're waking up
Speaker 3: at five point fifty, you stretch, Then at six point
Speaker 3: fifteen you have to make sure you're getting ready, and
Speaker 3: then it's seven fifteen you're eating breakfast, and then after
Speaker 3: school and it's very like, very regimented, which is not
Speaker 3: something I ever had to do, and I kind of
Speaker 3: feel bad for implementing it for her, but it's working
Speaker 3: so far.
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I was. I watched my older sibling not
Speaker 4: do well in school and get in trouble, and I
Speaker 4: think from an early age, I just learned the lesson
Speaker 4: of like I will just be hard on myself so
Speaker 4: that no one else has to be hard on me.
Speaker 4: So I was like a self starter. However, I will
Speaker 4: tell you I as an adult, at least I would
Speaker 4: thrive with that kind of structure and planning in my day.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think so too. If I just like I
Speaker 3: need a babysitter, like where's my mom? I need my
Speaker 3: mom to live here near me, except I couldn't because
Speaker 3: our relationships too complicated. I would be annoyed with her
Speaker 3: like my daughter's annoyed with me. But if I hired
Speaker 3: a babysitter to come and just like put me on
Speaker 3: a schedule, like the child adhd brain in me needs
Speaker 3: that somehow.
Speaker 4: Also, I love the predictability, like give me an air
Speaker 4: tight I'm not this way on like vacations per se,
Speaker 4: but give me an air tight itinerary for a day,
Speaker 4: and there is a part of me that adores it
Speaker 4: because it feels safe, safety, it feels predictable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that. You didn't do that in school,
Speaker 3: or did you do that in school?
Speaker 4: No? I did not. Like I said, I sort of
Speaker 4: just motivated myself and it was all self disciplined. Like
Speaker 4: my parents never had to crack down on me. I was.
Speaker 4: I learned to be hard on myself. I was my
Speaker 4: first critic and I was a harsh one. So I
Speaker 4: did well and I never needed it. But now as
Speaker 4: an adult I find especially now as a parent, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I've just learned. I love a good plan, I love structure.
Speaker 4: I'm a structure guy, and I love predictability. And it's
Speaker 4: been a big thing I've had to work on when,
Speaker 4: especially as a parent, when the day doesn't go the
Speaker 4: way you think it does, which as a parent is
Speaker 4: about ninety five percent of the time, I would have
Speaker 4: a really hard time. I'd have a big emotional reaction.
Speaker 4: So I had to do a lot of work around
Speaker 4: that with just being fluid, being okay, yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: And there's no greater teacher than you know, children.
Speaker 3: That is so true. Boundaries, creating the boundaries, creating the
Speaker 3: safe space to like, I actually feel like I'm so
Speaker 3: much more productive under a schedule because if I just
Speaker 3: let my brain go, like all creatives want to do,
Speaker 3: we just want to wander and be free and do whatever.
Speaker 3: And yet somehow I feel like I don't accomplish very much.
Speaker 3: I'm unable to feel good about the things that I
Speaker 3: do accomplish because I think I could have done so
Speaker 3: much more because I'm also hard on myself. And when
Speaker 3: there's boundaries in place, it's like you're not just throwing
Speaker 3: a ball onto a field with a bunch of people
Speaker 3: and going play something, because then there's no rules, there's
Speaker 3: no foul lines, there's no boundaries, there's no nothing. And
Speaker 3: once I have those in place, then I can run
Speaker 3: free and play well. So I'm hoping I can really
Speaker 3: instill that in my daughter. Although once you're thirteen, you're
Speaker 3: basically cooked. But she's a good kid, you know. It's
Speaker 3: just we're trying to figure out the schedule.
Speaker 4: I notice you are wearing a very striking lipstick today.
Speaker 4: What's the occasion?
Speaker 3: Thank you? I was just sent some Thrive Cosmetics lipstick
Speaker 3: in the mail and I thought it would be fun
Speaker 3: to wear on our podcast.
Speaker 4: Look at our organic plugs. That wasn't even set up, listen.
Speaker 4: I just genuinely thought, that's a beautiful color lipstick. Joy,
Speaker 4: What do you did? You were you going to see
Speaker 4: someone at the coffee shop you were hoping to Was
Speaker 4: there a new teacher you were hoping to say hello too?
Speaker 4: I was curious.
Speaker 3: No, I just I saw it sitting on the counter
Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm gonna throw on my I'm
Speaker 3: gonna throw on my Thrive lip color. I'll throw a
Speaker 3: little snap up on my ig so all of you
Speaker 3: friends can see it. But speaking of structure and speaking
Speaker 3: of having a plan, we have our first question from Emmelyin,
Speaker 3: and she's asking what your character's ideal way to spend
Speaker 3: a weekend off would be considering their personal interests and quirks. Now,
Speaker 3: do you want structure on your weekend like this? Or
Speaker 3: do you want to just like brain dead, check out.
Speaker 4: Are we talking about for me in real life?
Speaker 3: Oh right, she's asking me about Clay. Okay, well, all right, fine,
Speaker 3: let's talk about Clay.
Speaker 4: I think Clay would be a staycation kind of guy.
Speaker 4: I could see. I could see Clay doing either a
Speaker 4: hotel room in room service and just lounging, or even
Speaker 4: just at his beach house ordering great delivery food, hanging
Speaker 4: out with Quinn. Like. I think he's a kind of
Speaker 4: a comfort home body type.
Speaker 3: I love that. Surprising I would think that Clay, But
Speaker 3: I guess because for work he's always jetting off and
Speaker 3: traveling and doing things that. To have a weekend off
Speaker 3: and just be in his own space or be at home,
Speaker 3: there's a comfort in that.
Speaker 4: And I'm also I think I'm I'm also forecasting where
Speaker 4: we know Clay gets to, and I think we see
Speaker 4: in later seasons Clay really kind of just becomes. There's
Speaker 4: a lot of like creature comforts he likes, and they're
Speaker 4: not flashy things like he has a nice car, but
Speaker 4: the thing he loves the most is a lazy boy
Speaker 4: reclining shit.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: So I feel like if you gave him a free
Speaker 4: time he'd be like, oh, one hundred percent, it's me Cherry,
Speaker 4: the new series on Netflix. I want to binge a
Speaker 4: lot of pizza.
Speaker 3: You know, Yes, I love that. How about for Haley, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I think, well, actually I don't know that
Speaker 3: they're that dissimilar, because Haley's a hard worker. She's busy
Speaker 3: all the time. She's got her kids, she's got her husband.
Speaker 3: She seems to be the person that people come to
Speaker 3: for advice all the time and to help them solve
Speaker 3: her problems. She's tutor girls, she's got the students, Like
Speaker 3: everybody is around, and she came from a big family,
Speaker 3: so she's used to having people around all the time.
Speaker 3: I think, Haley, and this is probably what I would
Speaker 3: do if I didn't have a child. I think Hailey
Speaker 3: jumps in her car early, like six am on Saturday morning.
Speaker 3: I'm sure she's discussed this with Nathan, but jumps in
Speaker 3: the car, takes a road trip down to Charleston or
Speaker 3: up to the Outer Banks, or maybe even up to
Speaker 3: New York, and she just chills out and does her
Speaker 3: own thing, and she's alone and just gets some alone
Speaker 3: time in her own brain so she can, yeah, reacquaint
Speaker 3: herself with good old Haley James. That's what I'm.
Speaker 4: Thinking, and that does sound like you, because in the
Speaker 4: last Q and A, I think you said sort of
Speaker 4: your ideal. I think the question was about you having
Speaker 4: a different job, but you said sort of an ideal
Speaker 4: scenario for you would be in a cabin remote in
Speaker 4: the woods alone writing. It is not that different from
Speaker 4: what you just said.
Speaker 3: Yes, so true. I'm an introvert, man. I just I
Speaker 3: like being able to go and get a dose of
Speaker 3: people and connect and my friends are so important to me.
Speaker 3: I love the spontaneous. I was taking the dogs for
Speaker 3: a walk yesterday. My neighbor drove by and I was like, Hey,
Speaker 3: you want to join me? She said yeah, pulled over,
Speaker 3: jumped out, and we had a walk with them. We
Speaker 3: stopped for coffee, then we had like an ended up
Speaker 3: having a two hour morning and talking about our lives
Speaker 3: and our relationships and it was just so great And
Speaker 3: I love that kind of connection. But I also want
Speaker 3: to live in a world where everyone leaves me alone
Speaker 3: and I don't have to ever speak to anyone. But
Speaker 3: that's just maybe my own insecurities or something.
Speaker 4: Were you always like that or is that more of
Speaker 4: a since you became a parent thing.
Speaker 3: No, I was always like that. I always felt like
Speaker 3: the odd man out and it was just so much
Speaker 3: work to try it. Because I'm also really sensitive, so
Speaker 3: I feel everything. I feel everything in a room, everybody
Speaker 3: i'm talking to, if they're whatever they're projecting. If I'm
Speaker 3: getting the projection of like they're having a really bad
Speaker 3: day but they're acting like they're having a good day,
Speaker 3: and then my body short circuits because I'm like, how
Speaker 3: do I what do you need from me right now?
Speaker 3: Do you want me to play with you and pretend
Speaker 3: like you're having a good day and we'll just act
Speaker 3: like nothing's wrong. Or do you want me to reach
Speaker 3: over and grab your shoulders and be.
Speaker 4: Like, Oh, what the heck is wrong with you?
Speaker 3: Obviously something's wrong, and I don't know what to do,
Speaker 3: and so I mentally explode. It's a lot of emotional
Speaker 3: work for me to be out in public dealing with people,
Speaker 3: So I think I would do you know, do you
Speaker 3: feel that way at all? I feel like you've got
Speaker 3: an introverted street.
Speaker 4: I realized I don't like concerts, and Jenny loves concerts,
Speaker 4: and for her fortieth I surprised her with tickets to
Speaker 4: see the When jay Z and Beyonce were on tour
Speaker 4: together fun and I was dreading it and you know,
Speaker 4: and so I ended up just looking at like, what's
Speaker 4: my What's my problem? Because I enjoy music, and I
Speaker 4: realize it's because I am so trained to constantly be
Speaker 4: reading everyone's energy around me that I am. I don't
Speaker 4: ever feel safe or it's not even safe. I'm constantly
Speaker 4: like I'm vigilant. I'm on alert. So it's like that
Speaker 4: guy got loud, is someone going to respond to that guy?
Speaker 4: And that person just got pushed? Is this about to
Speaker 4: be a fight. So I'm never really relaxed And in
Speaker 4: the moment, I'm constantly just on the lookout.
Speaker 3: I feel that so hard.
Speaker 4: So that's why I'm just like big big events like that,
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm good. I don't want to do that.
Speaker 4: I always thought I was an extrovert my whole life
Speaker 4: until I actually started to get to know myself, and
Speaker 4: I think I am more of an extroverted introvert or
Speaker 4: like an introvert who you know, because like I do
Speaker 4: enjoy like conventions. Yeah, I enjoy it. I can do it.
Speaker 4: It's tiring, but I enjoy it. I enjoy interacting. However,
Speaker 4: at the end of that day, I really like to
Speaker 4: go back to my room and not be spoken to
Speaker 4: and be left alone so I can recharge the batteries.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, I can relate to this. The next question
Speaker 3: is from Marcus, and he asks, if your character had
Speaker 3: the opportunity to give a Ted Talk, what topic would
Speaker 3: he choose to speak about and what message would you
Speaker 3: want to convey? Like, is he teaching us about how
Speaker 3: to recharge our batteries? Is he talking about sports?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: What's Clay's deal Clay's Ted Talk?
Speaker 4: No, man, I think Clay's Ted Talk is on grief.
Speaker 4: And I think his messages you grow through what you
Speaker 4: go through, you know, because I think we see over
Speaker 4: the course of the three seasons he tries it both ways,
Speaker 4: he tries ignoring it. I think we've even up to
Speaker 4: this point we've already heard him say it doesn't matter
Speaker 4: how fast you run, the pain always runs faster, or
Speaker 4: something to that effect. Yeah, So, I think I think
Speaker 4: his talk would be centered around sort of embracing your grief,
Speaker 4: befriending your grief, you know, get to know it, feel it,
Speaker 4: let it happen, you know, and let it change you.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 4: How about Haley.
Speaker 3: I thought about this. Haley's Ted talk I think is
Speaker 3: actually on anger and processing anger, because as I've thought
Speaker 3: back on all of Haley's episodes and all of her stuff,
Speaker 3: she seems to have this underlying streak of like she's
Speaker 3: just a little bit angry with the world, hence the
Speaker 3: slapping everyone. I guess all the time. I think she's
Speaker 3: got a really intense sense of justice, but she also
Speaker 3: likes to give people the benefit of the doubt, and
Speaker 3: she's got a she's got a you know, controlling streak
Speaker 3: of just wanting everything to be in place and be perfect,
Speaker 3: and like, let's not rock the boat, and so when
Speaker 3: there are unexpected events, it elicits this frustration in her.
Speaker 3: But it seems like as the years went on, she
Speaker 3: got better with dealing with it and accepting that life
Speaker 3: is a bit of a mess and learning how to
Speaker 3: go with the flow and being a mom I'm sure
Speaker 3: was a huge part of that. And I think it
Speaker 3: would be really interesting to hear Haley's in specifically Haley's
Speaker 3: talk on how to process like latent anger that's creating
Speaker 3: frustration in your life into moving into a space of
Speaker 3: like just freedom from that.
Speaker 4: Yes, she grew, she evolved. Yeah, you know, I think
Speaker 4: it would be great if that Ted talk opened and
Speaker 4: it was just pitch black, and then on the giant
Speaker 4: screen was just a montage of all of the people
Speaker 4: you have, open hands, slap and then you walked out
Speaker 4: on stage and you were like anger. That would grab
Speaker 4: the audience.
Speaker 3: Dude, should we do this at the next convention, like
Speaker 3: character Ted Talks, like five minute character Ted Talks.
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, that would be so funny. That would be
Speaker 4: so funny. All right, next question up, Morgan. One Tree
Speaker 4: Hill is my favorite show ever. I've seen each episode
Speaker 4: about ten times, except for the series finale, which I've
Speaker 4: only watched once because it makes me too sad to
Speaker 4: watch it again. Relatable. Do you guys have a favorite
Speaker 4: show that you watch over and over again and never
Speaker 4: get tired of. I feel you, Morgan, because, especially when
Speaker 4: in times when I was struggling, I would really lean
Speaker 4: into just keeping my favorite TV shows on in the
Speaker 4: background twenty four to seven. The moment I woke up,
Speaker 4: I would hit play because all the episodes would have finished,
Speaker 4: it would have gone back to the main menu, and
Speaker 4: I would keep it on anytime I was in the
Speaker 4: house until like I went to bed. Sometimes it's because
Speaker 4: I love the show. Sometimes it's just because I was
Speaker 4: like lonely and sad and wanted the voice these familiar
Speaker 4: voices in the background. And I did the same thing
Speaker 4: with The Office. I think I've watched the finale one
Speaker 4: time and then I just was, Okay, I don't I
Speaker 4: don't need to I don't need to see that again
Speaker 4: that again. I don't want closure. I would say my
Speaker 4: show's my ones on repeat, thirty Rock Parks and rec
Speaker 4: Detroitter's arrested development and The Office nice. How about you Frasier?
Speaker 4: Ooh wow, really.
Speaker 3: Always always Frasier. I just love that show. That the
Speaker 3: physical comedy is so smart. The combination of absurd and
Speaker 3: highbrow is so great, like slapstick and highbrow humor mixed together. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there is a very difficult thing to achieve, I think,
Speaker 3: to make it really work, and it works. Yeah, anytime
Speaker 3: it's on, I can't. I can't ever really turn it off.
Speaker 3: Although what I will say about this whole thing that
Speaker 3: you're talking about, Morgan about only watching the finale once,
Speaker 3: I actually have a habit of not watching the finales
Speaker 3: at all of shows that I love, I will, I'll
Speaker 3: watch everything, but when the last episode is there, I
Speaker 3: just I just don't tune in. I tell myself, I'm
Speaker 3: saving it for a rainy day. And then when there's
Speaker 3: been enough distance between me and the show and I've
Speaker 3: sort of grieved the loss of the characters and there's
Speaker 3: nothing new anymore, then I'm like, I don't need to
Speaker 3: go back and see the end. It's okay. I just
Speaker 3: I'll just leave it where it is.
Speaker 4: I think that makes sense because for a lot of reasons,
Speaker 4: but one of which is it's It is very very
Speaker 4: hard to wrap up a series. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 4: think a pilot is very difficult to do because you
Speaker 4: have so much world building to do that it's a
Speaker 4: it's a very tough task to make a good first
Speaker 4: episode of a show. However, especially if it's a beloved show,
Speaker 4: I think it might be even harder to wrap it
Speaker 4: up in such a way because it's like, what are
Speaker 4: you trying to make the people happy? Are you trying
Speaker 4: to be the best storytelling because you're really like, look.
Speaker 3: At Seinfeld, I was just going to say that.
Speaker 4: Everyone we were so excited, and that happened, and everyone
Speaker 4: was just like, WTF, we were so mad. It was
Speaker 4: so disappointing. It was this also how I was saying,
Speaker 4: I love predictability. I read that one reason people will
Speaker 4: rewatch shows so many times is because of the predictability. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because they know what's coming. And there's comfort in knowing
Speaker 4: what's coming. Yes, And that absolutely that resonated with me.
Speaker 3: Yep, And we've said that about our show all the
Speaker 3: time too. The sort of comfort food element like Kraft
Speaker 3: mac and cheese is whatever, like I could never eat
Speaker 3: it again the rest of my life, except that it's
Speaker 3: comforting because I know exactly what it tastes like. I've
Speaker 3: been eating it since I was a little kid. And
Speaker 3: there's something about or like peanut butter and jelly on
Speaker 3: crackers like whatever. I'm fine, but I want it because
Speaker 3: it just makes me feel safe.
Speaker 4: You know what I'd be curious to know is did
Speaker 4: One Tree Hill stick the landing?
Speaker 3: That's a really good question. I don't know how how
Speaker 3: fans feel about the last episode of One Tree Hill.
Speaker 3: I mean I tend to walk away, I think because
Speaker 3: I don't. I like the idea of the possibility that
Speaker 3: there's still more coming, and when you watch the closure
Speaker 3: of something. It really is very final, and I remember
Speaker 3: our last episode did feel very you know, it's everybody
Speaker 3: hugging in the cafe and everybody. It just it felt
Speaker 3: very final. So I'm curious how fans related to that.
Speaker 4: We'll see what have we got next. Becca writes, Imagine
Speaker 4: your character is given a magical wish that will only
Speaker 4: affect their own life. Would they wish for and why?
Speaker 4: Great question, Becca, I have one locked and loaded for this.
Speaker 4: You want me to go. I think Clay would wish
Speaker 4: that he never forgot about Oh by the way, if
Speaker 4: you're listening to this and you haven't watched the series yet,
Speaker 4: stop fast forward about sixty seconds because I'm about to
Speaker 4: give the spoiler. Okay, now that all of those people
Speaker 4: have left the room, let me tell you. I think
Speaker 4: Clay would wish that he never forgot about his son Logan,
Speaker 4: because it's tricky. He can't wish that Sarah never died
Speaker 4: because then he never meets Quinn. Yeah, and so I
Speaker 4: think it's just that he never forgets Logan and hasn't
Speaker 4: lost all of that time with his son.
Speaker 3: I totally forgot about Logan, So did Clay. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 3: there's no other answer for Clay. Of course, you would
Speaker 3: not want to forget about that. In case y'all have
Speaker 3: joined back in, I don't want.
Speaker 4: To, okay, and welcome back everybody. We didn't want to
Speaker 4: hear that spoiler. What would Haley wish for?
Speaker 3: Haley gets a magical wish that only affects her life.
Speaker 3: What does she wish for? I think Hailey's I think
Speaker 3: it's kind of back to the original question of what
Speaker 3: do you do with your free weekend? I think Hailey
Speaker 3: wants the magical ability to freeze time and just go
Speaker 3: into her shell, go do whatever she wants, and then
Speaker 3: come back and put push play again and be back
Speaker 3: in life with kids and husband and friends and all.
Speaker 4: That Small Wonder style.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Or like, what was the one EVI with
Speaker 3: her two fingers Dan?
Speaker 4: That was small Wonder?
Speaker 3: Wait, that was small Wonder. I thought Small Wonder was
Speaker 3: the robot with what's her face? Punky?
Speaker 4: I'd be right, I thought, Yeah, the girl who could
Speaker 4: touch her fingers together was the one I was trying
Speaker 4: to this world.
Speaker 3: What would you like to swing on a start? Yeah? Yes,
Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah yeah yeah she did. She froze time. Yes,
Speaker 3: that's what I.
Speaker 4: Want apologies to all of our listeners who are thirty
Speaker 4: or younger for our dated references. But it was a
Speaker 4: really great show in the eighties.
Speaker 3: Do you know. I've tried to find that on YouTube
Speaker 3: and watch a couple episodes with Maria. She liked it
Speaker 3: for a little while and then we kind of got
Speaker 3: over it. But it was funny. Her dad was an
Speaker 3: alien that lived in a little box, or maybe he
Speaker 3: spoke to her through a little box on her nightstand.
Speaker 3: What a weird show.
Speaker 4: I remember nothing except that she could freeze time. But
Speaker 4: that's a great.
Speaker 3: One, okay, Kayla asks. Growing up with Disney and rom comms,
Speaker 3: it made finding love something of a fantasy. Oh we're
Speaker 3: getting deep here, perhaps with a few unrealistic expectations. Being
Speaker 3: actors who create these fictional romances, has that played a
Speaker 3: role in how you view love and your expectations when
Speaker 3: you choose or chose your partner. How do you separate
Speaker 3: real from a fantasy love story?
Speaker 4: Hell Im Joy, I wish.
Speaker 3: I had the answer. I mean, this is the reason
Speaker 3: why there's so many location ships, because actors keep falling
Speaker 3: in love with each other in sets, thinking that it's
Speaker 3: real when it's maybe not. But sometimes it.
Speaker 4: Is location ships. That's so funny. Why have I never
Speaker 4: heard that term?
Speaker 3: You haven't.
Speaker 4: I'm familiar with the idea, but location ships, No, that's hilarious.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting question. I mean, I like that
Speaker 3: she says, growing up with Disney and rom coms it
Speaker 3: made something love, something of a fantasy. But the interesting
Speaker 3: thing is, I don't know that that's exclusive to kids
Speaker 3: that grew up with Disney and rom comms. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think that's since Hollywood started, actually, probably since books
Speaker 3: started being printed. I mean, there love stories and these fantasies,
Speaker 3: these ideas of epic, all encompassing love stories have been
Speaker 3: told to us since at the beginning of time. Like
Speaker 3: that's an age old story and probably for a good reason.
Speaker 3: But then we're getting into existentialism and God and all that.
Speaker 3: So we'll stay with this which is Hollywood. And I
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, I think it's it's certainly made
Speaker 3: it more consumable, the idea that there is some kind
Speaker 3: of perfect easy love out there. I don't know. Man,
Speaker 3: we get on set and you're I talk about this
Speaker 3: actually a little bit. In my book Dinner for Vampire
Speaker 3: is out October twenty seconds shameless plug organic plugs. Because
Speaker 3: my marriage was in a really bad place, but I
Speaker 3: was going to work every day pretending to be in
Speaker 3: a really happy marriage with James Nathan, and it was
Speaker 3: a little bit of a mind screw to be nice.
Speaker 3: Was it was weird to go and like have my
Speaker 3: body speaking and acting as though I was really happy
Speaker 3: and in this lovely relationship with someone who I was
Speaker 3: friends with, but there was no you know, we never
Speaker 3: had anything romantic between us. But then to go home
Speaker 3: and not have that with the person I was actually
Speaker 3: supposed to, It's really strange. And I don't know if
Speaker 3: I have a really good answer for you, Kayla. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's it's hard. It can be really hard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my answer is not exciting, because the truth is,
Speaker 4: how do you separate real love from a fantasy. I
Speaker 4: don't know, it's always been easy in my real life.
Speaker 4: I've never I've never thought like I should have it
Speaker 4: like one of my characters.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's also because I came to acting late. You know,
Speaker 4: I didn't start acting until I was in my close
Speaker 4: to my mid twenties, so I had already sort of
Speaker 4: you know, been around, been in relationships had an idea
Speaker 4: of what it looked like before. Yeah, outside of like
Speaker 4: you said, the location ships, which it is different because
Speaker 4: you're in this bubble. Like listen, you're spending thirteen hours
Speaker 4: a day like usually like your male lead, they're going
Speaker 4: to hire a hunk. Okay, you're going to spend fifteen
Speaker 4: hours a day with him for three weeks straight. Every day.
Speaker 4: His hair is going to be perfectly coafft. He's going
Speaker 4: to be wearing a really handsome outfit that flatters him.
Speaker 4: You're probably going to be saying words to each other
Speaker 4: where you're laughing and you're holding hands. It really is.
Speaker 4: It is just a breeding ground for emotion. Plus, if
Speaker 4: you're an actor, you know, like maybe you let a
Speaker 4: little piece of yourself all for the person, just that
Speaker 4: it can be that much easier to find the work
Speaker 4: and be honest. Yeah, so it's that that could be
Speaker 4: tricky if you are available to that kind of energy
Speaker 4: or that, but otherwise, no, it's not that hard to
Speaker 4: separate them from me if.
Speaker 3: You're in a relationship. That's why you have to be
Speaker 3: clear about that energy and know what you're like. If
Speaker 3: you're going in and you know the other person's single
Speaker 3: and you're single and you're like, oh, maybe this will
Speaker 3: be the start of something. This could be fun. Like
Speaker 3: then you know where you're at. But going in if
Speaker 3: one of the people, if you're in a relationship or
Speaker 3: the other person is you got to be very vigilant
Speaker 3: about keeping it keeping it clean, like keeping the energy
Speaker 3: really clean. And you do what you have to do
Speaker 3: on camera, but there's no when you go back to
Speaker 3: your chairs. You're not opening yourself up to that or
Speaker 3: trying to get something out of the other person. You're
Speaker 3: just being professional. But I've never been in a scene
Speaker 3: and said lines and been like, I wish my real
Speaker 3: life partner would say these lines, Like you know, you're
Speaker 3: saying lines, but it's just all the stuff in between,
Speaker 3: not necessarily what the characters are saying or doing. It's
Speaker 3: all the in between set stuff that can sometimes get confusing.
Speaker 4: I guess. Grace writes as someone who has been working
Speaker 4: in the film industry in Wilmington the past five years,
Speaker 4: keep in touch with any of the local crew or
Speaker 4: below the line folks.
Speaker 3: Ah, Grace, I love that you're in Wilmington working on film.
Speaker 3: That's fantastic. Yeah, I mean, one of the things about
Speaker 3: about being on a crew or being an actor in particular,
Speaker 3: and not because a crew really lives in one place
Speaker 3: and they work on lots of different projects and they
Speaker 3: all work together and stay connected. The actors were used
Speaker 3: to moving all over the place all the time. You
Speaker 3: get really close with people really fast, and then you're
Speaker 3: off to another project and you have to spend all
Speaker 3: your time getting really close to those people really fast,
Speaker 3: and it can make it difficult to maintain really strong
Speaker 3: friendships with people. But yes, there are several crew members
Speaker 3: and people that I back in Wilmington that I talked
Speaker 3: to and met, people who weren't even working on the
Speaker 3: show that I met while I was out there that
Speaker 3: I stay in touch with and love. Yeah, just depends
Speaker 3: on how long you're there and how much time you
Speaker 3: guys are able to spend together. I don't know, Rob
Speaker 3: you were there for. Was it three or four years?
Speaker 3: Like season six it was three years.
Speaker 4: Seven, eight and nine. Yeah, I do. Social media makes
Speaker 4: it easier.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't exchange phone calls with anybody, but on social
Speaker 4: media there's a few people that we send messages back
Speaker 4: and forth or comment on each other's posts. So in
Speaker 4: that regard, yeah, yeah, for sure, This next question is
Speaker 4: from Jenny, and I can't be certain it wasn't my wife,
Speaker 4: so let's just assume it was. What is the reason
Speaker 4: behind no theme song intro throughout the whole season seven
Speaker 4: and then using other artists to cover songs through season eight?
Speaker 4: Do you guys know? I read this and I have
Speaker 4: no idea. Do you enjoy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure they just didn't want to pay royalties
Speaker 3: to Gavin. They were probably just trying to save money.
Speaker 3: Somebody was like, let's just not run a theme song
Speaker 3: at the top of the season, and we don't have
Speaker 3: to pay it. We don't have to pay them, So
Speaker 3: that's probably it. I don't know whether the use of
Speaker 3: covers they probably had to also pay less, Like they
Speaker 3: still to use the songs, they have to pay for
Speaker 3: the song, but if you've got somebody else covering a song,
Speaker 3: the license is probably different.
Speaker 4: And by this point that that Kevin Degras song was
Speaker 4: so imprinted on this show that you didn't need to
Speaker 4: play it. Like I said, every episode I start, I
Speaker 4: start to hear the theme song, it doesn't need to
Speaker 4: be there anymore. So honestly, it wasn't a bad business
Speaker 4: decision because I'm sure that opened them up to buy
Speaker 4: more songs, more higher price songs throughout the episode. But yeah,
Speaker 4: oh my gosh that song.
Speaker 3: And also it gave time for more advertising too, because
Speaker 3: you know in opening credits fifteen seconds, thirty seconds, and
Speaker 3: if they cut that then they can use that time
Speaker 3: to sell ad space, or they could make the show
Speaker 3: longer if they to make the episode longer and things
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was another thing that was so I'm such
Speaker 4: I'm so old. But that was another thing that was
Speaker 4: great about shows in like the eighties and the nineties
Speaker 4: was that they hadn't wised up to the fact that
Speaker 4: they could cut theme songs to make advertising space. So
Speaker 4: back then, remember like Golden Girls. I know every word
Speaker 4: to the Golden Girls song. There were shows, cheers, there
Speaker 4: were shows that had absolute bangers. Oh yeah, as theme songs.
Speaker 3: You look forward to it every time. Well, ours was
Speaker 3: one of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, arts was a good one.
Speaker 3: I loved I'd love that song, Kevin, I mean any
Speaker 3: song of his I love. Okay, here's our last one.
Speaker 3: Claire is asking why do characters always wear their shoes
Speaker 3: and scenes at home. For example, in season six, episode
Speaker 3: twenty one, Hayley is sitting on her couch with her
Speaker 3: feet on the coffee table wearing heels. I know any
Speaker 3: woman would take their heels off as soon as they
Speaker 3: walk in the door. You are not wrong, Claire wrong.
Speaker 3: The truth is several things. Probably, we're on a set,
Speaker 3: which means the floor is a little bit dirty because
Speaker 3: there's cameras rolling around and people walking around in their
Speaker 3: shoes and dirt shuffling in from outside. And so that
Speaker 3: means that every time I walk across that floor, if
Speaker 3: my shoes are off, my feet get dirty, and I
Speaker 3: put them up and guess what, Now, all you can
Speaker 3: see on camera are dirty feet. Gross. Then they've got
Speaker 3: to come in with the wipes and wipe them off. Secondly,
Speaker 3: I don't want my bare feet on camera because people
Speaker 3: are creepy. Thirdly, heels make my legs look better, and
Speaker 3: I probably just being a little vein and wanted to
Speaker 3: not have to go flat footed and have my hips
Speaker 3: pop out the way they do when I'm not wearing
Speaker 3: a little bit of vain. And Thirdly, we have to
Speaker 3: constantly or fourthly, we have to constantly reset. So depending
Speaker 3: on what kind of shoes those were, taking them off
Speaker 3: and putting them back on takes up time on the
Speaker 3: other set of camera and nobody ain't got nobody got
Speaker 3: that time. We ain't got that time.
Speaker 4: I also think this is a situation that is not
Speaker 4: unique to One Tree Hill. I think this is something
Speaker 4: you see a lot like in TV shows, especially especially
Speaker 4: TV shows because the schedule is so much faster, you know.
Speaker 4: But I think there's a lot of shows where you
Speaker 4: see people at home and they do things like this
Speaker 4: where you think, who who does that? Like? Who these
Speaker 4: days still has their tennis shoes on and puts them
Speaker 4: on their coffee table?
Speaker 3: Yeah? What gross?
Speaker 4: Gross?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: On that note, thanks for joining us, friends.
Speaker 3: I hope your shoes aren't on your coffee table right now.
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