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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We all about

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Speaker 3: Let's talk friends. That's a good way to get started.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Rob, Hey, Joy, how are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing pretty well, doing pretty well.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 3: You have Robin I today and we've got a Q

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Speaker 3: and A for you. Yeah, I'm doing well. Maria's like

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Speaker 3: in her first days of school. So far, so good.

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Speaker 3: We're trying to implement a new schedule because she's a

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Speaker 3: bit neurodivergent like me, and you know, can have a

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Speaker 3: don't you your planner. I didn't know where the planner was,

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Speaker 3: you know, all the things. So I had to write

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Speaker 3: up this contract. It's like a parental contract. Like here's

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Speaker 3: if you sign your name to something, you're making a commitment.

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Speaker 3: So the understanding of that, and then like, here's what

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Speaker 3: school and it's very like, very regimented, which is not

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Speaker 3: something I ever had to do, and I kind of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I was. I watched my older sibling not

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Speaker 4: So I was like a self starter. However, I will

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Speaker 4: tell you I as an adult, at least I would

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think so too. If I just like I

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Speaker 4: Also, I love the predictability, like give me an air

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Speaker 4: tight I'm not this way on like vacations per se,

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Speaker 4: and there is a part of me that adores it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that. You didn't do that in school,

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Speaker 3: or did you do that in school?

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Speaker 4: No? I did not. Like I said, I sort of

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Speaker 4: I learned to be hard on myself. I was my

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Speaker 4: And there's no greater teacher than you know, children.

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Speaker 3: That is so true. Boundaries, creating the boundaries, creating the

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Speaker 4: I notice you are wearing a very striking lipstick today.

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Speaker 4: What's the occasion?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? I was just sent some Thrive Cosmetics lipstick

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Speaker 4: Look at our organic plugs. That wasn't even set up, listen.

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Speaker 3: Oh right, she's asking me about Clay. Okay, well, all right, fine,

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Speaker 4: I think Clay would be a staycation kind of guy.

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Speaker 3: I love that. Surprising I would think that Clay, But

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Speaker 4: And I'm also I think I'm I'm also forecasting where

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: So I feel like if you gave him a free

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Speaker 3: You know, Yes, I love that. How about for Haley, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yes, so true. I'm an introvert, man. I just I

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Speaker 4: Like, Oh, what the heck is wrong with you?

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Speaker 4: So that's why I'm just like big big events like that,

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Speaker 4: Great question, Becca, I have one locked and loaded for this.

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Speaker 3: started being printed. I mean, there love stories and these fantasies,

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00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 3: these ideas of epic, all encompassing love stories have been

436
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: told to us since at the beginning of time. Like

437
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 3: that's an age old story and probably for a good reason.

438
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Speaker 3: But then we're getting into existentialism and God and all that.

439
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 3: So we'll stay with this which is Hollywood. And I

440
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, I think it's it's certainly made

441
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 3: it more consumable, the idea that there is some kind

442
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: of perfect easy love out there. I don't know. Man,

443
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 3: we get on set and you're I talk about this

444
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 3: actually a little bit. In my book Dinner for Vampire

445
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: is out October twenty seconds shameless plug organic plugs. Because

446
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 3: my marriage was in a really bad place, but I

447
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 3: was going to work every day pretending to be in

448
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 3: a really happy marriage with James Nathan, and it was

449
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: a little bit of a mind screw to be nice.

450
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 3: Was it was weird to go and like have my

451
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: body speaking and acting as though I was really happy

452
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Speaker 3: and in this lovely relationship with someone who I was

453
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 3: friends with, but there was no you know, we never

454
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: had anything romantic between us. But then to go home

455
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: and not have that with the person I was actually

456
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 3: supposed to, It's really strange. And I don't know if

457
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Speaker 3: I have a really good answer for you, Kayla. I mean,

458
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 3: it's it's hard. It can be really hard.

459
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Speaker 4: Yeah, my answer is not exciting, because the truth is,

460
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 4: how do you separate real love from a fantasy. I

461
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 4: don't know, it's always been easy in my real life.

462
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: I've never I've never thought like I should have it

463
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Speaker 4: like one of my characters.

464
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Speaker 3: You know.

465
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Speaker 4: Maybe it's also because I came to acting late. You know,

466
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Speaker 4: I didn't start acting until I was in my close

467
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 4: to my mid twenties, so I had already sort of

468
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 4: you know, been around, been in relationships had an idea

469
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 4: of what it looked like before. Yeah, outside of like

470
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Speaker 4: you said, the location ships, which it is different because

471
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 4: you're in this bubble. Like listen, you're spending thirteen hours

472
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 4: a day like usually like your male lead, they're going

473
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 4: to hire a hunk. Okay, you're going to spend fifteen

474
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 4: hours a day with him for three weeks straight. Every day.

475
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 4: His hair is going to be perfectly coafft. He's going

476
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Speaker 4: to be wearing a really handsome outfit that flatters him.

477
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 4: You're probably going to be saying words to each other

478
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Speaker 4: where you're laughing and you're holding hands. It really is.

479
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 4: It is just a breeding ground for emotion. Plus, if

480
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Speaker 4: you're an actor, you know, like maybe you let a

481
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 4: little piece of yourself all for the person, just that

482
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 4: it can be that much easier to find the work

483
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Speaker 4: and be honest. Yeah, so it's that that could be

484
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Speaker 4: tricky if you are available to that kind of energy

485
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Speaker 4: or that, but otherwise, no, it's not that hard to

486
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Speaker 4: separate them from me if.

487
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Speaker 3: You're in a relationship. That's why you have to be

488
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Speaker 3: clear about that energy and know what you're like. If

489
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Speaker 3: you're going in and you know the other person's single

490
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: and you're single and you're like, oh, maybe this will

491
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Speaker 3: be the start of something. This could be fun. Like

492
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 3: then you know where you're at. But going in if

493
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Speaker 3: one of the people, if you're in a relationship or

494
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: the other person is you got to be very vigilant

495
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 3: about keeping it keeping it clean, like keeping the energy

496
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: really clean. And you do what you have to do

497
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 3: on camera, but there's no when you go back to

498
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Speaker 3: your chairs. You're not opening yourself up to that or

499
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Speaker 3: trying to get something out of the other person. You're

500
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Speaker 3: just being professional. But I've never been in a scene

501
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: and said lines and been like, I wish my real

502
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 3: life partner would say these lines, Like you know, you're

503
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 3: saying lines, but it's just all the stuff in between,

504
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: not necessarily what the characters are saying or doing. It's

505
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Speaker 3: all the in between set stuff that can sometimes get confusing.

506
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Speaker 4: I guess. Grace writes as someone who has been working

507
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: in the film industry in Wilmington the past five years,

508
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 4: keep in touch with any of the local crew or

509
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: below the line folks.

510
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Speaker 3: Ah, Grace, I love that you're in Wilmington working on film.

511
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: That's fantastic. Yeah, I mean, one of the things about

512
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: about being on a crew or being an actor in particular,

513
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: and not because a crew really lives in one place

514
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: and they work on lots of different projects and they

515
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: all work together and stay connected. The actors were used

516
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: to moving all over the place all the time. You

517
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: get really close with people really fast, and then you're

518
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 3: off to another project and you have to spend all

519
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: your time getting really close to those people really fast,

520
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: and it can make it difficult to maintain really strong

521
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: friendships with people. But yes, there are several crew members

522
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 3: and people that I back in Wilmington that I talked

523
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: to and met, people who weren't even working on the

524
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: show that I met while I was out there that

525
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 3: I stay in touch with and love. Yeah, just depends

526
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: on how long you're there and how much time you

527
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: guys are able to spend together. I don't know, Rob

528
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: you were there for. Was it three or four years?

529
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: Like season six it was three years.

530
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Speaker 4: Seven, eight and nine. Yeah, I do. Social media makes

531
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Speaker 4: it easier.

532
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

533
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 4: I don't exchange phone calls with anybody, but on social

534
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: media there's a few people that we send messages back

535
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: and forth or comment on each other's posts. So in

536
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 4: that regard, yeah, yeah, for sure, This next question is

537
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: from Jenny, and I can't be certain it wasn't my wife,

538
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: so let's just assume it was. What is the reason

539
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 4: behind no theme song intro throughout the whole season seven

540
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 4: and then using other artists to cover songs through season eight?

541
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: Do you guys know? I read this and I have

542
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 4: no idea. Do you enjoy?

543
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure they just didn't want to pay royalties

544
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: to Gavin. They were probably just trying to save money.

545
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: Somebody was like, let's just not run a theme song

546
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 3: at the top of the season, and we don't have

547
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 3: to pay it. We don't have to pay them, So

548
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: that's probably it. I don't know whether the use of

549
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: covers they probably had to also pay less, Like they

550
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: still to use the songs, they have to pay for

551
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: the song, but if you've got somebody else covering a song,

552
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 3: the license is probably different.

553
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 4: And by this point that that Kevin Degras song was

554
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 4: so imprinted on this show that you didn't need to

555
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: play it. Like I said, every episode I start, I

556
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: start to hear the theme song, it doesn't need to

557
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 4: be there anymore. So honestly, it wasn't a bad business

558
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 4: decision because I'm sure that opened them up to buy

559
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: more songs, more higher price songs throughout the episode. But yeah,

560
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: oh my gosh that song.

561
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: And also it gave time for more advertising too, because

562
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: you know in opening credits fifteen seconds, thirty seconds, and

563
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: if they cut that then they can use that time

564
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: to sell ad space, or they could make the show

565
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: longer if they to make the episode longer and things

566
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Speaker 3: like that.

567
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was another thing that was so I'm such

568
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: I'm so old. But that was another thing that was

569
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 4: great about shows in like the eighties and the nineties

570
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 4: was that they hadn't wised up to the fact that

571
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: they could cut theme songs to make advertising space. So

572
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 4: back then, remember like Golden Girls. I know every word

573
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Speaker 4: to the Golden Girls song. There were shows, cheers, there

574
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 4: were shows that had absolute bangers. Oh yeah, as theme songs.

575
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Speaker 3: You look forward to it every time. Well, ours was

576
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: one of them.

577
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, arts was a good one.

578
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 3: I loved I'd love that song, Kevin, I mean any

579
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Speaker 3: song of his I love. Okay, here's our last one.

580
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: Claire is asking why do characters always wear their shoes

581
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: and scenes at home. For example, in season six, episode

582
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 3: twenty one, Hayley is sitting on her couch with her

583
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: feet on the coffee table wearing heels. I know any

584
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: woman would take their heels off as soon as they

585
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: walk in the door. You are not wrong, Claire wrong.

586
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: The truth is several things. Probably, we're on a set,

587
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: which means the floor is a little bit dirty because

588
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: there's cameras rolling around and people walking around in their

589
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: shoes and dirt shuffling in from outside. And so that

590
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: means that every time I walk across that floor, if

591
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: my shoes are off, my feet get dirty, and I

592
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: put them up and guess what, Now, all you can

593
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: see on camera are dirty feet. Gross. Then they've got

594
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: to come in with the wipes and wipe them off. Secondly,

595
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: I don't want my bare feet on camera because people

596
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: are creepy. Thirdly, heels make my legs look better, and

597
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: I probably just being a little vein and wanted to

598
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: not have to go flat footed and have my hips

599
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: pop out the way they do when I'm not wearing

600
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: a little bit of vain. And Thirdly, we have to

601
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: constantly or fourthly, we have to constantly reset. So depending

602
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: on what kind of shoes those were, taking them off

603
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: and putting them back on takes up time on the

604
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: other set of camera and nobody ain't got nobody got

605
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: that time. We ain't got that time.

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Speaker 4: I also think this is a situation that is not

607
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 4: unique to One Tree Hill. I think this is something

608
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 4: you see a lot like in TV shows, especially especially

609
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Speaker 4: TV shows because the schedule is so much faster, you know.

610
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 4: But I think there's a lot of shows where you

611
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: see people at home and they do things like this

612
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 4: where you think, who who does that? Like? Who these

613
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: days still has their tennis shoes on and puts them

614
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Speaker 4: on their coffee table?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? What gross?

616
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Speaker 4: Gross?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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