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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and Michael Coughlan and I'm

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Speaker 1: her radio podcast. All right, welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 1: wind Down with Janna Kramer and Michael Cosson. We have

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Speaker 1: my beautiful wife Jannet back with us. Yay yay.

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Speaker 2: It's like a rap party right.

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Speaker 1: Now, it is. How are you feeling?

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Speaker 2: Well? We wrapped?

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Speaker 1: Uh? What day?

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Speaker 2: We wrapped on Saturday? Saturday? We wrapped on Saturday. I'm

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Speaker 2: and like, I am the biggest baby when it's the

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Speaker 2: last day, because I just cry. I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: just think it's so sad because.

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Speaker 1: You spend so many hours, like with these people for

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Speaker 1: so long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like summer camp, do you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, where it's just you are so close with them,

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Speaker 2: and then it's then it's like I'm probably not going

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Speaker 2: to see these people again.

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Speaker 1: Like they're your best friends for a few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just your besties and you have like just

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Speaker 2: the best you know time, and then you're just like okay.

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Speaker 1: Bye a month. For a month, it's like twelve to

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Speaker 1: fourteen hours a day you're spending with them more.

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Speaker 2: Than that, yeah, sixteen hour days. Well no, but I

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Speaker 2: mean I'm I'm happy. I just it's just crazy that this.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think we were going to be able to

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Speaker 2: finish the movie, and a lot of people were asking

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Speaker 2: if this was the movie that got shut down in March.

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Speaker 2: But this is a different movie. I don't think that

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Speaker 2: movie's gonna happen again. But the uh, we got shut

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Speaker 2: down obviously the first week for the pneumonia, the second

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Speaker 2: week of COVID, third week. So I'm just we for

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Speaker 2: sure thought we were going to get shut down because

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know how a production can handle that, right.

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Speaker 1: And I was just, oh, man, I was praying for

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Speaker 1: you guys that you would just because I know y'all

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Speaker 1: wouldn't last one more shutdown. No, like the movie would

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Speaker 1: have gotten axed, and that would have just been such

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Speaker 1: a blow for you, I know, like you know, with

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Speaker 1: your energy and just morally and you know everything like that.

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Speaker 1: It's just it would have been a big blow. And

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Speaker 1: I would have felt terrible if that wuld happened to

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Speaker 1: you again twice.

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Speaker 2: But we finished it. We're so excited it's airing. We're

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Speaker 2: hoping by Veterans Day because we have a really big

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Speaker 2: element with veterans in it, so we hope by then,

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Speaker 2: but if not, it'll be on Lifetime. It's called the

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Speaker 2: Welcome Home Christmas. Yeah, So I'm just I'm really excited.

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Speaker 1: I can't I'm excited. This was the least amount that

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Speaker 1: I've been like two set. Yeah, you just went once,

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Speaker 1: and even though it was the closest one.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, yeah, that is true, but I mean

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Speaker 2: with all my friend Catherine came, but she got kicked off. Right,

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Speaker 2: we couldn't we couldn't have visitors unless it was exterior shots.

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Speaker 1: Between that and then the other day I was going

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Speaker 1: to come and spend like all day was a day

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Speaker 1: that I got shut down, and you know, so it was.

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Speaker 1: It was just more difficult, even though it was so close.

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Speaker 2: How were you during that time?

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Speaker 1: I was fine. I'm more deductive when you're around.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, No, I didn't mean to say like that. That

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Speaker 2: sounded bad. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say like that.

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Speaker 2: But we got into an argument because of that, which

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Speaker 2: day that I had off, well, I wouldn't even say off.

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Speaker 2: We've been promoting our book stuff. So that was like

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Speaker 2: a big press tour day for our book. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I just start to notice, like every room I walked

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Speaker 2: I even said, like I said, I set expectations before

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Speaker 2: my time with the kids when I get those few

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Speaker 2: precious hours. And you know, you said absolutely, you know,

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Speaker 2: So I just start like cleaning, because that's me. I'm

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Speaker 2: something about cleaning something up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was just super passive. Oh.

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, just you know much I clean

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Speaker 1: Stuff, a lot of stuff laying around. I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Know, I could have said it a lot better. And

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Speaker 2: I know now that I could have been like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I just feel like it's all on me to have

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Speaker 2: so I just feel like I'm being suffocated right now.

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Speaker 2: And so we get into this huge thing right before.

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Speaker 1: Our press perfect time.

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Speaker 2: Perfect time. And what's even funnier is that my girlfriend Catherine,

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Speaker 2: who's also like our day to day manager, she comes

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Speaker 2: in and she goes, oh my god, I'm so glad

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Speaker 2: I didn't say anything. She's like, because I told her.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, we're fighting right now. She's like,

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad I didn't say anything. She's like, because

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Speaker 2: when I first walked in, I was like, Wow, your

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, Mike would have lost it.

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Speaker 2: We probably would have laughed at that point.

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Speaker 1: I would have thought for sure that you guys colluded

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Speaker 1: and you text would have you texted her to say

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably that's so something you do. Would think.

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Speaker 1: That's because that's something y'all would do.

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Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, So but you know, today we we cleaned

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Speaker 2: a bunch and I tackled that laundry room. That was.

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Speaker 1: When all it was it was, It wasn't dirty. It's

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Speaker 2: Away anyway, which is so funny because I think it's

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Speaker 2: when you do do you mind just putting it actually

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Speaker 2: away because you just put the ring light in the

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Speaker 2: you I appreciate you not taking it personal. I said, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, but like, what is the okay

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Speaker 1: No. Yeah, for me, it was there wasn't anything underneath

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Speaker 1: from a good place. She's asking very nicely, very softly.

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Speaker 1: it came to my head just now where I was like,

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Speaker 1: not just the being bossy, but you know, when I

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Speaker 1: was cleaning up something of Jana's So it was like, here,

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Speaker 1: I am trying to clean up something of yours and

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Speaker 2: And where I put it, we want to compare apples

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Speaker 1: I'm not coming I'm not comparing anything. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: to March's point, we're saying just the general annoyance of

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Speaker 1: being bossed around. That's what came up for me. What

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Speaker 1: Not me?

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Speaker 2: That's funny. I would I would love to go head

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Speaker 1: Anyway, there's something I want to bring up from the movie.

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Speaker 1: So let's take a break and get to that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So you got you were doing like questions or something

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Speaker 1: one day on your Instagram and you got a great

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Speaker 1: question in regards to me and when we're talking about

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Speaker 1: You know, we typically talk about it beforehand. Again, it's

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Speaker 1: But you were asking me, You're almost like worried that

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Speaker 1: I didn't get more like I didn't get jealous. It's

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Speaker 2: No, well, no, because a situation arose. Let's just you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna but where you know, maybe the other

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Speaker 2: And I to you, I'm like, well, why aren't like

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Speaker 2: I am working with an attractive other counterpart, and you

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Speaker 2: like you went to a guys night and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: you and here's the thing, and I said, would you

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Speaker 2: And so so sometimes I think I'm like okay, Sometimes

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Speaker 2: I think that you trust me because you want that

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Speaker 2: that's how you base a lot of our things. Well,

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Speaker 2: And so it's a deep core through our relationship in general.

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Speaker 2: No, And I know that because I know, like one

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Speaker 3: A question difficult questions. Please, I'll try to try to

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Speaker 1: The hell out of this right now.

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Speaker 3: Because of the issues the two of you have had

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Speaker 1: I love that you asked us question, and here's why,

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Speaker 1: not that she uses it, but it's just I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: I love the phrase energy of leverage.

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Speaker 2: It's a good question, and honestly, like I would be

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Speaker 3: Lowest darkest points, Yeah, sure that comes up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would. I mean, even like you

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Speaker 2: just it's to your point too, I know, I just

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Speaker 2: Not gonna happen. Stop talking about it. No, I don't

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Speaker 2: Oh say, I disagree. I don't ever want to, like

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm doing that, but like I could

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just not a jealous person.

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Speaker 2: M challenge acceptance.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding right now, Right now I'm just picturing

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Speaker 3: But when I have been jealous over the years, my

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Speaker 1: We like it.

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Speaker 2: We like to know that like we're like that you

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Speaker 2: but like it's almost like people that are aren't jealous.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're just like they're so they're like too comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you're too comfortable, I think, and not knowing what

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Speaker 1: Now I'm getting threatened. I think I understand your point

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Speaker 1: because I think there's a difference between jealousy and like

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Speaker 1: arrogance yeah and ncy. Yeah, but it's not it's it's

433
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: neither of those for me. It's it's in the middle

434
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Speaker 1: where I'm just confident and comfortable in a good way.

435
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: There's a difference between comfortability and complacency. So I'm comfortable

436
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: with our relationship. I'm I'm confident in our marriage and

437
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: that we're going to do the right things. And so yeah,

438
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I trust you.

439
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 2: I just like I just would like a one percent jealousy.

440
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: Work on your jealousy to be more jealous.

441
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: You all right, before before we actually we were just

442
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: talking about fair for a second and we got to

443
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: talk about one more thing around this topic before we

444
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Speaker 1: jump into emails and dms. And so you just had

445
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: a picture that you posted from wrapping up the movie,

446
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: and you had and you took it down because some

447
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: people were uncomfortable, right, Is that what happened around it,

448
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 1: and you just showed me the picture. I saw nothing

449
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: wrong with it, and you even had to point out

450
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Speaker 1: what the issue was, and I was like, okay, so tomorrow,

451
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: point Mark was like, does that draw more attention that

452
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: you delete the picture?

453
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 2: Well, one thousand percent, but I wanted to be respectful

454
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: for sure. If I'm like, well, maybe like you wouldn't

455
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: be like, maybe you wouldn't have like the fact that

456
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Speaker 2: like I was touching his leg.

457
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, if the roles were reversed one thousand i'd

458
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: be upset double standard, but maybe.

459
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Speaker 2: Not though, if you're touching like like like Julie's like

460
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: a random I'd be upset. But like if it was

461
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: like a okay, take that back, if it was Julie Molly,

462
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: like any of like the girls that like you know,

463
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: but I would.

464
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: Have no reason to touch to put my hand on.

465
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: Their leg when you're smushed up on a couch.

466
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: I still wouldn't put my hand on their leg. So

467
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: then I put my arm around them. Yeah, I wouldn't

468
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: put my hand on someone else's leg. That's way more intimate.

469
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 2: Actually, so are no, because I know how you are,

470
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: because I'm very touchy but is that bad?

471
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Speaker 1: You are who you are. I accept you. Huh. I

472
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: love this. She's touchy?

473
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: Is it okay for others to be touchy?

474
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not like, it's not like some random

475
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Speaker 2: I'm you know what I mean? It was like the

476
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: cast and crew.

477
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Speaker 1: And you know, now if it was just like a picture,

478
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Speaker 1: what did.

479
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: You say too, Like you're like you were just working,

480
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 2: you know.

481
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can understand the connectedness between you and all

482
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: the people there because of you know, I've seen you

483
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: do enough movies now, I I from from watching it.

484
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: I can see I see how much work and energy

485
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: and sweat and tears goes into these movies. It's insane,

486
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: Like people don't know how hard y'all really really work.

487
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: It's exhausting. And so I can understand that you guys

488
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: have this connection. Like you said earlier, it's like summer

489
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: camp friends where you just feel like the closest people

490
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: in the world and then it's all over. So I

491
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Speaker 1: get that if it was just I was just gonna say,

492
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Speaker 1: even if it was just you and him sitting there,

493
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: But at the same time.

494
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Speaker 2: I'm like, if it was because I kind of go

495
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: back to like the justin Timberlake thing how I was like,

496
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 2: that is so wrong. His hand's on her leg. But

497
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: to me, I'm like, they're out partying. But then I'm like,

498
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: well maybe was I don't know where's the like the

499
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: line for that. Then, I mean he was like really

500
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: rubbing her leg. But it's not like they were just

501
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 2: taking a photo super you know, close together.

502
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Speaker 1: I don't want to go down that rabbit hole. It

503
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: is just it is interesting. I think it just depends

504
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: on boundaries that you set in place with just like

505
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: we talk about, like in your relationship, because again, I wouldn't.

506
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: That's just not my nature. I'm not as Touchyphelia as

507
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: a person. Yeah you know, so I wouldn't. I don't

508
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: know why I to have put my hand on Yeah,

509
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: that would make me uncomfortable. Yeah even right, but you

510
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: know I could put my arm around them.

511
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah. It's just interesting.

512
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: Is it's interesting because you would be so mad.

513
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: It's just it depends. It just really depends on the situation.

514
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 2: I would say, I really think it depends on the situation.

515
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: And plus that's not like you said, it's not your nature,

516
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: so that would be because it's not you. It'd be

517
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: like huh, you know that's not you, and then that

518
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 2: would cause concern. But yeah, interesting, all right, Mark, do

519
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: you have any digress?

520
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,479
Speaker 3: Got some interesting emails today? Beca says this one. I'm

521
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: twenty three.

522
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: Scrubbing in. What does she need our advice on?

523
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 3: I'm twenty three. I'm the new mother of a beautifulight

524
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 3: month old baby girl. Her father my boyfriend, and I

525
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 3: have been together for a little over two years. When

526
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 3: I'm mad him, he told me he was married, but

527
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 3: they were separated and getting divorced, so I trusted him

528
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: and took his word for it. That wasn't the case,

529
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: and I got emails from his wife if I was

530
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: still living together throun a lease. A few months later,

531
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Speaker 3: I find out I'm six weeks pregnant. Then I find

532
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: out he cheated on me by sleeping with her, though

533
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 3: I felt like the other woman. We separated for a

534
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: bit but kept in touch because I was pregnant. Then

535
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 3: he moved in with me. Things were good after that.

536
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: I went through a Snapchat though unfound messages with a

537
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: girl where she was sexting him. I confronted him. He

538
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: cried because he was scared of losing his family, so

539
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: he wants to fix this and for our daughter.

540
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: I do too.

541
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: I've heard you tell other women to help get past

542
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: it by staying in today. I've just recently started using

543
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: that because before I would say things like oh, want

544
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: you go message your other girlfriend, or you don't like

545
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: it and go run to your other girlfriend. We've been good,

546
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: but a lot of things still trigger me. I'm lost

547
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 3: and not sure how else to handle this because I

548
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: want this to work and I want us to be

549
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: able to move forward and grow our little family, but

550
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how.

551
00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: I mean, thanks for emailing, and I do think yeah,

552
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: trying to remain present in today, but also to to

553
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: earn some of that trust back, get some good boundaries

554
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: that would make you feel comfortable around the relationship and

555
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: around things. Boundaries just for safety, not I wouldn't say

556
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: like necessarily restrictions, but just like boundaries. And you know,

557
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: whether it's not having snubsat or I don't know what

558
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: you think.

559
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: This is tough because like the first suggestion I have,

560
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about a lot. But it's also

561
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: it can be used as a like unhealthy in an

562
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: unhealthy manner, like being too codependent, where you know, watch

563
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: his actions to see to invoke change to see if

564
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of times you would feel

565
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: more comfortable based on how I was being. You know,

566
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: over time that can be codependent, where you're basing your

567
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: feelings off of somebody else, which you don't want to do.

568
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: But in these early stages you kind of have to.

569
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: You know, he's got to be on his best behavior.

570
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: He's really got to show up and show you change

571
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: and and things. So you know, you kind of got

572
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: to put your heart in his hands to see if

573
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: you'll if you'll hold on to it for right now,

574
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, until you get on your feet again and

575
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: can start trusting him and feel comfortable in yourself. So

576
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: that's his job is to help you as much as

577
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: he can repair this and and repair parts of you.

578
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: And to stay empathetic during it too.

579
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I would just say that to him, say

580
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: that you're you're trying to lean into him a lot,

581
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: and if he wants this as bad as he's saying

582
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: he does, then he needs to show up and help

583
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: you and hold you up.

584
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: So I like that and just a stay present, staying

585
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: today and just notice the change that he's hopefully we're

586
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: not changed with the growth.

587
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: What is he doing today anymore?

588
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one's anonymous. My husband and I have been

589
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: barely married a year, and I'm feeling almost completely alone

590
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: in this relationship. It doesn't feel like any kind of

591
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: marriage I've ever imagined myself being in daily my husband

592
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: barely I find out he barely knows much about me.

593
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: He doesn't need to be concerned or bothered about that.

594
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: I can tell him things I need to help me

595
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: cope with anxiety and depression, but I get no help

596
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: from him. I go into the conversation hoping to be

597
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: held and told that he's there for me and the

598
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 3: things are going to be okay, But instead he's annoyed

599
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: regarding my feelings and what's going on in my head,

600
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: in my heart. So many people on the outside looking

601
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 3: in and can see the hurt that I'm feeling and

602
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: that I'm not the smiling, spunky, happy person I've always been.

603
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: But I haven't been that person in so long that

604
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: I've forgotten how it felt to not have this huge

605
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 3: weight on my heart. I may not know much, but

606
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: I do know this is not how a relationship or

607
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: love is supposed to feel. I'm searching for a new

608
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 3: therapist I'm comfortable with. I don't know what to do

609
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: if he isn't willing to try therapy to make things work.

610
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: I'm trying to fight for this, but I don't know

611
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: how I could keep fighting alone.

612
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: Oh it's so hard. Parts of it. I'm like, you know,

613
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: I want her to ask for what she needs, but

614
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: it sounds like she has hasn't she.

615
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: Well, she wouldn't really say that. She's just saying it

616
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like any kind of marriage she ever imagine,

617
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: and she's find out daily that he does. He barely

618
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: knows much about her, and he's not concerned by that.

619
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: And I would just tell him what you need. Like

620
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: the other day, I was like, I need more love.

621
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: I need more you know, like to feel like you

622
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: care and just like to do like and then maybe

623
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: do something connective together. That way they can get to

624
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: know each other more, you know, like read a book together,

625
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: have discussions around it, or do something that can bring

626
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: them together.

627
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: M My thing is, I feel like a lot of

628
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: this is just managing expectations and over community and communication

629
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: needs to be had because even when she says I

630
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: can tell him things, or she's like she's hoping she's

631
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: hoping she comes out of the conversation where he's like

632
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: willing to to hold her and tell her that it's

633
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. But you know, generally where men were

634
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: simple minded creatures, where sometimes you need to throw the

635
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: instruction manual in front of us and be like, hey,

636
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: when I talk to you about this, this, these are

637
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: the things that help me. These are the things that

638
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: I need to hear. These like, we can't read your mind.

639
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: So when you want to be told everything's gonna be okay,

640
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: you want to be held like, we don't know that

641
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: until you tell us, and then on it's held against us.

642
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: We were like, wait, what the hell is going on?

643
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: Like why are you so upset?

644
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, think the other day You're like I didn't know

645
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: you were this unhappy.

646
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: It's like damn. So it's you know, and here's the

647
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: deal too, because this is something that I'm guilty of, right,

648
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: and this is just just how I process things and

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Speaker 1: just what I believe. What I believe in this relationship is,

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Speaker 1: you know, Janna wants to feel chosen. A lot of

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Speaker 1: that is triggers from the stuff I've done in the past.

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Speaker 1: For me, I'm like, she said yes when I asked

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Speaker 1: her to marry her. She chooses me, Like, it goes

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Speaker 1: back to the beginning. So the fact that we're still married,

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Speaker 1: that's enough for me personally to feel chosen. For this guy,

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Speaker 1: he might be the same thing where it's just like

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Speaker 1: he doesn't see anything wrong because he's like, man, she said, yes,

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Speaker 1: she's she's my wife. I was like, this is great.

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Speaker 1: Life's awesome. Where's the rush, Like, we're gonna be together

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Speaker 1: the rest of our life. We're gonna get we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to know each other and everything's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 1: So okay, like he could it could be that simple

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Speaker 1: for him personally. So it's just she just needs to

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Speaker 1: not try to read between the lines and just address

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Speaker 1: it head on.

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Speaker 2: I love that advice. All right, love you guys. Let's

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Speaker 2: keep our hands to ourselves and give a little two

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Speaker 2: percent a jealousy. Love you guys.

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Speaker 3: No h