1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: I married an eighty nine year old billionaire at twenty five. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: I swear I'm not a gold digger. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 2: I doubt it. You just wait, Oh okay, you just 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: wait to go oh okay. So hi everyone. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: This is a long one, but I feel like I 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: need to get it off my chest. So back in 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: the early nineties, I twenty five female, a single mom, 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: was trying to survive in a small Texas town. 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: My son was complicated, to say the least. I had 10 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: had my. 11 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Song when I was very young, and everything since then 12 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: had been about hustling to make ends meet. I worked 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: every job you could think of, retail, fast food, cleaning houses, 14 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: but no matter how hard I worked, I was barely 15 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: scraping by. To say I was struggling would be an understatement. 16 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: By the way, this is a story about Anna Nicole 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: Smith on the r slash Okay storytime subprendit So. Growing up, 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: I had always dreamed of becoming a model. I'd flipped 19 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: through magazines and think that could be me someday. But 20 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: at twenty five, with no connections, no money, and a 21 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 1: kid to support, it felt like an impossible dream. Eventually, 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: I took a job at a spicy dancing club in Houston. 23 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: We love a good spicy dancer. Spicy dancing there you go. 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: It wasn't what I wanted for myself, but the money 25 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: was better than anything I could find spicy dan, So. 26 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: I just think that's right. Sorry, sorry, it's fire adaptation. 27 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: You can't get me mad at it. 28 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: It would be temporary, a stepping stone into something better. 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: That's when I met Howard eighty nine. 30 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: Male aka the stepping Stone. 31 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: The stepping Oh dear Howard was not your typical spicy 32 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: dancing club patron, was he. 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 3: Now, you don't say you had to be a little 34 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 3: fragile with the lap dances. You could use this, You 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: could use his walker. 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: Jelly, but not the stepping headstone. Yeah, he's on the 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: way out, oh dear jellyba Okay, who is that the 38 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: specter of death? 39 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: Oh? No? 40 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: So he was older, way older, wearing a tailored suit 41 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: that screamed billionaire in the wrong place. He wasn't leering 42 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: like most men there. Instead, he seemed genuinely curious. When 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: he waved me over. 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: I hesitated. 45 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd seen all kinds of men come through 46 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: those doors, and I wasn't sure what to expect. But 47 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: Something about his kind eyes made me sit down. We 48 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: talked for hours that first night. Howard told me about 49 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: his life, how he'd built an oil empire, how much 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: he missed his late wife. He wasn't just some rich 51 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: guy flaunting his money. He was kind and thoughtful. For 52 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: some reason, I opened up to him about my struggles 53 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: being a young single mom, my dreams of becoming a model, 54 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: and how I felt stuck. And instead of dismissing me, 55 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: he said, you're special. Don't let anyone make you think otherwise. 56 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: I like how it says. 57 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: For some reason, I started opening up to this guy 58 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 4: about my problems and how I want to be a model. 59 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: Like he didn't tell you he built an oil empire. Hmmmm, 60 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 2: I need a place to talk. I wonder why you 61 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: were opening up to him. I need a place to talk. 62 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: Hey, listen in that beneath that barely operating cardiovascular system. 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: You know what it leads to, Dakota heart? Yeah, hard heart? 64 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: Is it barely old heart? Like this when it beats? 65 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: But for now? 66 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: No, no, Hey, if someone is what when you put 67 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 4: a stethos scope up against this guy's chest, this is 68 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: what you hear. 69 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: That's the sound of his heart. 70 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: But from that night on, Howard became a regular in 71 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: my life, not just at the club but outside of 72 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: it too. 73 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: He showed up for me in ways that no one 74 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: ever has before. 75 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: Yes, the age gap was massive, after all, he was 76 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: eighty nine and I was twenty five. 77 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: You could literally be like, that's your great grandpa, right, 78 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: could you? 79 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: Riley? Could you could? Could we run some quick maths please? 80 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: My brain is not. 81 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: My great grandfather is currently ninety one and I am 82 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: twenty four. 83 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: Yes, but what's the age exact age gap? 84 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 5: Oh? 85 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: Basically the same. That's the same, basically the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 86 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: by like one year. 87 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: That is approximately sixty four years. You could fit three 88 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: generations between them, was it? 89 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: You know, ag nothing but enough a big number in 90 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: this case. Oh my god, you know how many? 91 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: Like freaking no, No, I'm not gonna say it. I'm 92 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: just gonna say all. 93 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: You Oh no, Riley, But we're back, We're back, We're back. 94 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: So he was eighty nine and I was twenty five, 95 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: but our connection felt real. He was the first person 96 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: in a long time who saw me as more than 97 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: just a strungling single mom. He called me his lady love, 98 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: and for the first time shut up. Probably I felt 99 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: like I matter to someone. He's just like, we're about 100 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: to have you sit in the hall riley. You're about 101 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: to be in producer time out if you don't fix 102 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:03,679 Speaker 1: up your act. Okay, now we love it. After about 103 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: a year of knowing each other, Howard proposed. 104 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: After you, he waited a year. Listen, he doesn't have 105 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: a lot of thoughts exactly. I'm like, oh, the whole 106 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: year he waited. I's telling you something. 107 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 3: You propose on one knee because I don't think he can. 108 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he had his handlers, you know, he got 109 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: in the acorn carriat, he had he had her stand 110 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: on the stairs. 111 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: He got in his acorn lift and it went and 112 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: on the way down he said, will you marry me? 113 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: So, after about a year of knowing each other, Howard proposed. 114 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: I was stunned. 115 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: I knew what people would say, that I was a 116 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: gold digger, that I was taking advantage of him, But 117 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: the truth was I loved him. He was kind, supportive 118 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: and made me feel like I was worth something. 119 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: So I said yes, beautiful, she said yes. Yes to 120 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: the dress? Yeah? Who would have thought yes to the ring? 121 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: Who would have thought we got married when I was 122 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: twenty six and he was ninety. The ceremony was small 123 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: and intimate, just close friends and family. I wore a 124 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: simple white dress and Howard's smile lit up the room. 125 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: Of course, they were whispers. People couldn't get past the 126 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: age difference, but we didn't care. We were in love 127 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: and that's what mattered. Howard was more than just a 128 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: husband to me. He became my partner, my mentor, some 129 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: would say, great grandfatherly way, and my biggest cheerleader despite 130 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: his limited dexterity. 131 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: And he became your checkbook. Oh. 132 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: He encouraged me to pursue my dreams, something I never 133 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: thought was possible for someone like me. Modeling had always 134 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: been a fantasy for me, something I dreamed of when 135 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: I was young, but never thought I could achieve. Howard, though, 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: maybe believing myself. With his support, I finally started booking gigs. 137 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: I was thrilled when I appeared in Playboy and became 138 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: the face of guest genes. Yeah breaking through, Oh yeah, 139 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: breaking through? 140 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: Hey, you did it. 141 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: It was everything I had dreamed of, and Howard was 142 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: always right there, proud of me every step of the way. 143 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: Every walker of the way. 144 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: You will spin away, nice nice one, nice high class John. 145 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: Why are you so triggered you're acting like you're his? Oh? 146 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: Because his h my Ben, he's two hundred and one. 147 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 3: So I didn't mean to be agist right now. 148 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 4: All right, it's all right. I mean that's why we 149 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: love him. Yep, he love him because he's two hundred 150 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: and one. 151 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: He relates to this. 152 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: Despite the progress of my career, Howard's family never accepted me. 153 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: His son, Pierce, in particular, seemed to harbor a deepresentment 154 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: to him. I was nothing more than a gold digger, 155 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: a younger woman with no place in the world. No 156 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: matter how much I tried to show them that I 157 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: wasn't after Howard's money, they didn't see it. I was 158 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: an outsider, and no amount of effort could make them 159 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: see the love Howard and I shared. Their judgment was relentless, 160 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 1: and it's stung. Howard tried to meditate, but the tension 161 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: never went away. It was heartbreaking because I knew how 162 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: much it hurt him to see his family divided. He 163 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: loved Pierce, but he also loved me, and it felt 164 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: like he was constantly being forced to choose side. So everyone, 165 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: here's my question, Am I the a hole for marrying 166 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: someone over sixty years. 167 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: Older than me? 168 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: And we have an update coming up? We have an update. 169 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: We're not even halfway done. 170 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 4: Look Like I saw some people in Chad being like 171 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: do they know who this is? 172 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 5: Like? 173 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: We know what this story is, right, I'm not hyper 174 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: familiar with all of the details of this story. 175 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: Same, but this is a very you know, it's a 176 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 4: very recognizable pop culture moment, so we know what it is. However, 177 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 4: you know, there's a part of me that's like, there's 178 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: not a zero percent chance that this is inauthentic or 179 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 4: like that this isn't authentic. 180 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,119 Speaker 2: You know, let's talk. 181 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: I think that there could be an actual relationship here, 182 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: which is a basically like a not grandfatherly per se, 183 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: but like the old you know, the more of the 184 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: mentor more of the like they are able to open 185 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: up to each other and like talk and all of 186 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: these things. She's there to listen, he's there to listen 187 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: to her, and there is a symbiotic relationship here. It's 188 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: not that she's just going for the money, which maybe 189 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: she also is too, but there is like more of 190 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: there are more layers to it than that, right, like a. 191 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 4: Best of both worlds type scenario where yes, yeah, only 192 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 4: is this guy who, like, you know, this old man 193 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: who's gonna die soon and has a bunch of money 194 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 4: right walks into. 195 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: Your strip club and wants to talk to you. 196 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,239 Speaker 4: But like suddenly you unloaded all of this like emotional 197 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: stuff off of your chest onto him, and you're like 198 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 4: that actually felt really good, and I. 199 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: Feel like I'm seen. I feel like this guy sees 200 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: me and knows me. 201 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 4: And it's not like it was like let's go down 202 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 4: to the chapel in Vegas and get married next week. 203 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: It was like a year. It took a year. 204 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 4: So that's a long time to play the long con 205 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 4: with it being entirely inauthentic, you know what I mean. 206 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: I agree. 207 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: It's like I think that the limit, the upper limit 208 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 4: is like three months or something of like telling a 209 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 4: lie before it really starts to like become where if 210 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 4: you're pretending something like that where it's like you're in 211 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 4: love with an older man, or you love an older 212 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 4: you have feelings for an older man, or whatever, you're 213 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: gonna be in a committed relationship with this guy. 214 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: I think we should ask an expert I have on 215 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: the phone right now, Samuel Donner. Oh, someone that has 216 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: a been experienced in the relations with another older person. 217 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 2: You go on day one time with a seven year 218 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: old and. 219 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 3: You're in the rat is a sixty four age gap? 220 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: Too much of an age gap to be with someone 221 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: a sixty four year age gap? 222 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? 223 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, light work, light work. What are your thoughts? 224 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, well well hold on, hold on, just 225 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: so twenty seven plus sixty four equals. 226 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: Ninety one ninety one years year old. I mean like, 227 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: she's she got bad, she got bad money. 228 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: She's bad dude, and she listens she owns an oil empire. 229 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, what does the date look like? What does the 230 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: date look like? What do you guys? 231 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: Do you You are a spicy dancer and you're shaking 232 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: your stuff. 233 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're working at Chippendale and no year's you for 234 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: the first place to day like a good Friday? You know, like, 235 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if I need anything, 236 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: just buy it for the love of the game. 237 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: You see, you're doing it for the love of the game. 238 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: But then you open up and you realize, you know what, 239 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: I did it for the love of the game. But 240 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: now my soul is complete for after sharing your life with. 241 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: This person. 242 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: And a billion dollars also on the side yea billion dials. 243 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: And helps boundaries around awesome. 244 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: Thank you expert for your knowledge. 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This determines what's 265 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 5: next for all of us. We are Marines, We were 266 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 5: made for this. Guys, we have an update. 267 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 2: Thank god. 268 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: Hi guys, been a while since my last post, but 269 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: I want to give an update. First, thank you to 270 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: everyone who shared your thoughts and encouragement this journey. It's 271 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: been wild, painful, and at times uplifting in unexpected ways. 272 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: I've had the time to reflect and wanted to share 273 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: where things are now. It's been fourteen months since Howard 274 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: passed away. 275 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: I knew it. 276 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: I knew that was what's gonna happen. 277 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. God, it's time to play the game. 278 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: He's dead. 279 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: It's time to play the game. She played it all right, 280 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: let's all, let's all be real. She played the game, 281 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: and she played it well. Listen, she got a son, 282 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: I got a sign. I'm out here. Check out my 283 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: money maker. What's up? Howard? Could he could have pointed 284 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: to any other dancer in that club? That club is 285 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: full full of women. But who does he point to? 286 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 4: When that finger lands on you, you take advantage of it, 287 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 4: You take advantage of old You. 288 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: Don't know it's it's going all over the place. You 289 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: don't even know, is it this person? Is this person 290 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: you know? 291 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: Going all over the place? But he pounce on that finger. 292 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: It landed pounds, It landed. 293 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: Howard was my rock, the one person who believed in 294 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: me when no one else did. Losing him feels like 295 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: losing a part of myself. But I don't even have 296 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: the time to grieve. Within days of his passing, Pierce 297 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: and the rest of the family by all the lawsuit 298 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: trying to strip me of everything Howard leaves me. The 299 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: legal nightmare that I've been tossed to since has been 300 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: nothing short of catastrophic, consuming every ounce of my time, energy, 301 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: and resources. I thought it would just be a fight 302 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: for Howard's estate, but I'm quickly realizing that this is 303 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: a fight for my dignity, my name, and my right 304 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: to be seen as a person. Since the trial has started, 305 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: the tabloid I have made this out to be a 306 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: gold gold digger caricature. 307 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: It's been brutal. Howard's son, Pierce Marshall, yes his full name, Frickin' 308 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: at you, Pierce. 309 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: Has been the worst. He has launched an all out 310 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: war against me, and he wasted no time in filing 311 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: lawsuits to block me from inheriting anything from Howard's estate. 312 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: According to Pierce, I am nothing more than a manipulative 313 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: gold digger who took advantage of Howard's age and frailty. 314 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: In their version of the story, I'm a schemer, a 315 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: predator who sunk my claws into a vulnerable man. At 316 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: all the trials, they keep arguing that Howard wasn't in 317 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: his right mind when he married me, or when he 318 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: made promises about taking care of me after his death. 319 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: I've been calling up my own witnesses to confirm Howard's intentions, 320 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: but they don't care. They haven't cared that he made 321 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: me though promises, repeatedly in front of people who knew 322 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: him well. None of this matters to Pierce and his 323 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: legal team. Narrative of the greedy young wife is too 324 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: convenient to let go because also my question is and 325 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: again something to chew on. If OPI has a fat 326 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: portion of the estate and OPI no longer is receiving it, 327 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: well where is that money gonna go? It doesn't go 328 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: into thin air? Where else would it go? 329 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: I think it goes back to Piers. 330 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: I think it goes back to Pierce. They're just trying 331 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: to keep their money. You know what I would you 332 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: know what I would say. I would say, hey, listen, 333 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: I would happily not take the money. Let's donate it. 334 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be the cool guy move. Let's donate 335 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: it and see what he does. Then I get the. 336 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 4: Position too of like, look, it's like your dad is 337 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: ninety one and he marries a spicy d answer who's 338 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: sixty four years younger than him. It's like, you know, 339 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 4: sixty four And then like it's like it looks how 340 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: it looks, right, regardless of the truth, it looks how 341 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: it looks. 342 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: I can't really blame yeah the sun. 343 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: I would probably do the same thing that was my 344 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 4: if I was in that position, I mean maybe not. 345 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: I would probably have made an effort to get to know, 346 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 4: like is this person a good person instead of just 347 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 4: immediately assuming like you're, like, all right, well he did 348 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 4: what he did. 349 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: My dad decided to marry this woman. 350 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: Let's find out if she's actually, you know, a decent person, 351 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 4: instead of just being like in. 352 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: A new thing. 353 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: Riley wants us to read the comment from miss Protein 354 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: what if it was like a walk to remember. 355 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: I have never seen that movie. I don't know what 356 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: that is. 357 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: Like a donation walk. 358 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: Ah, it's like a walk to remember, a donation walk. 359 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what she meant by that. Sorry she said, 360 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: don't walk to remember. 361 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: It's like a movie. Too late. Riley was too too sweet. 362 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: But Opie says, I'll update if anything changes with the trial, 363 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,119 Speaker 1: and we have an update the first. 364 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: Weagel battle in Texas probate Court. 365 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: Duchess Cassandra has a great comment. It says, no way 366 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: she she earned that money. She had to deal with 367 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 4: the wrinkly balls and the shriveled twigs, Like, yeah, hey, Pierce, 368 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 4: if you're that upset, how come you weren't in bed 369 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 4: with your dad? 370 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: Listen, who wants that job? 371 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: Who wants? 372 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: Who wants a Dakota? 373 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: Although it is a billion, it is a billion, so 374 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: that's a lot, or at least a large sum of 375 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: money if it's not literally exactly a billion. 376 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, maybe she really loved it. 377 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: I honestly think that it's what we were saying, or 378 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: what you said, best of both worlds. Yeah, she got 379 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: the money. In the end, she changed her life, her 380 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: son's life, everything. And it also they had some sort 381 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: of you know, relationship where they were able to like 382 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: emotionally support each other. Remember when he said he had 383 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: like felt alone or something like that. Ever since the 384 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: passing of his late wife, he's looking for companionship exactly. 385 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: And is it much better to get companionship in a hot, 386 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: young body and then something else. 387 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: He's like, why not, I'm a billionaire. 388 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 4: He's like, you can go for it, buy whatever I want, 389 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 4: whatever opinion I want, I want, I want, And that's 390 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 4: what he won. 391 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: And that's what he did, and that's what he did. 392 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: But let's get into this update. First legal battle in 393 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: Texas probate court. Hey, everyone, I wanted to share an 394 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: update because I have just gone through my first major 395 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: legal battle in Texas probate court. It's been an emotional rollercoaster, 396 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: but I'm trying to stay strong and keep This is 397 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: what Howard wanted and I owe it to. 398 00:17:58,880 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 2: Him to see it through. 399 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: Here's this legal team has been relentless. They're arguing that 400 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: I have no legal claim to Howard's a state. According 401 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: to them, everything Howard gave me while he was alive 402 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: cars Julie financial support should be quote unquote more than enough. 403 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: They're saying that his will doesn't leave me anything significant 404 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: and are dismissing our relationship as a total sham. To them, 405 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm just a woman who has already taken enough. Taking 406 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: the stand has been one of the hardest things I've 407 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: ever done. I poured my heart out over and over 408 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: telling the court I loved Howard and he loved me. 409 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: This wasn't about money, wasn't about money, or wasn't just 410 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: about money? 411 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 4: I think just it might maybe it didn't start as yeah, Riley, 412 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 4: can we get a screen share for the audience? 413 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 5: Like? 414 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: He looks like he's got a lot of personality. Bro 415 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: has risen. He looks. Yeah he is risen. Bro's absolutely risen. 416 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: I don't think he can. Oh god, I think I 417 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 3: don't think. All right, we're about to get a look 418 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 3: one second, everyone see me work real quick. Sorry, this 419 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 3: is ugly, it's not professional. 420 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: But you're we're they We're getting there. Yeah, blow up 421 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: that that one. You know what I'm talking about? 422 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 2: There? 423 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 5: It is. 424 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro's definitely got a personality. 425 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 4: Look at those eyes are bright. Look there's a lot 426 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 4: of there's a lot of live from them. There is 427 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: there are thoughts going on in that guy's head. Got sure, 428 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 4: we've all seen the eyes of someone who has nothing 429 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 4: going on. 430 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: He's got it. He's got that. That was not those eyes. 431 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: He's got it. Wait how long nineties? I think she's 432 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: I think she's dead. Is she dead? 433 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: Don't spoil it? 434 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, no spoilers, No spoilers. Well, I mean, so is 435 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: that we know? I don't know it. It's a very 436 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: well that you can't say. This is a very well 437 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 2: known story. There are many people that have literally never 438 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: heard the story ever, And this is why it's like 439 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: it's a celebrity, but. 440 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: There are there's for the one person at least out there. 441 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: There's definitely one. 442 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: Person I've never heard the story. So it's spoil for me. Yeah, 443 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: maybe she's alive. She goes on to say, this wasn't 444 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: about the money. 445 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: I've tried my best to explain how much he supported me, 446 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: not just my financially, but emotionally, in how our relationship 447 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: was built on mutual respect and care. But honestly, it 448 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: feels like the court room is stacked against me. Pierce's 449 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: attorney twists everything I say, trying to make me look 450 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: like some schemer with a calculated plan, and it's beyond frustrating. 451 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: We should hear the court's ruling soon, and I'll keep 452 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: you all posted as soon as I know more. Thanks 453 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: to everyone who's reached out with the kind words and advice. 454 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: It means so much to me. Right now, fingers crossed 455 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: for some good news. There's another update. 456 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. 457 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's do it. 458 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: Update number three A roller coaster of emotions. Hey everyone, 459 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm back with another update, and honestly it's a mixed bag. 460 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm still trying to process everything that's happened here. 461 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: So bear with me. 462 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: First, the bad news, the Texas Court ruled in Pierce's favor. 463 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: To say that I'm devastated would be an understatement. The 464 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: ruling doesn't just strip me of any claim to Howard's 465 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: the state. It feels like it erases the very foundation 466 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: of our relationship. It's like the court is saying our 467 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: love never existed, which is heartbreaking. Howard trusted me and 468 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: I trusted him. For the court to dismiss that so 469 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: completely feels like a betray of everything we shared. But 470 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: there's some hope on the horizon. My llegal team and 471 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 1: I have decided to appeal a case in California. Now, 472 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: the courts there operate under different rules. My lawyers say 473 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: they tend to have a more progressive perspective, and they 474 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: think we might. 475 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: Actually have a better shot this time. Our argument is simple. 476 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: Howard made verbal promises to provide for me after his passing, 477 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: and those promises should be honored. Verbal arguments can hold 478 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: way under the right circumstances, and we even have witnesses 479 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: who can back me up and coroborate what Howard's said. 480 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 4: No coaboation, coaboation, Well can you please coabba wait what 481 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 4: it was said? 482 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: Oh, we can coab weight Because so far things look 483 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: and promising. Okay, the California courts have been much more 484 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: receptive to my case, and for the first time in years, 485 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: it feels like. 486 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: I might actually win. 487 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: They've ruled that I have a valid claim to Howard's estate, 488 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: which is such a huge step forward. For once I 489 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: feel like someone is actually listening to me and seeing 490 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: the truth of our relationship. Of course, it's not all 491 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: smooth sailing. Pierce's team isn't giving up. They've already appealed 492 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: to Californ You're ruling trying to drag this case out 493 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: even further. It feels like every time I take one 494 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: step forward, they pull me back to It's exhausting, and 495 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: I know there are days when I don't know how 496 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: much more I can take, But then I remember how 497 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: it's promises to me, and it gives me the strength 498 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: to keep going. I won't let anyone erase what we 499 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: had or what he wanted for me. I'm cautiously optimistic 500 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: about what's ahead, but I know there's still a long 501 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: road to go. I'll keep you updated as things progress. 502 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your support and kind messages. 503 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: It really does mean the world to me. And there's 504 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: update number four. We're about halfway through the story. 505 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: Honestly, dude, like, get your money, girl, I don't care. 506 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: When he was too young. I'm he was going too soon. 507 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: Think about it like this, who would you rather want 508 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: the money going to a single mom who is in 509 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: the spicy dance clubs trying to support her some through 510 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: all this or the rich Probably let's be honest here, 511 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,239 Speaker 1: maybe not the coolest guy ever. Maybe you got some 512 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: entitlement kind of vibes going on, son of the billionaire? 513 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: Oh what are you talking about? 514 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 4: Like I've heard that when you're like, I've heard nothing 515 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: but good things about people who are children of like 516 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: extraordinarily wealthy people. Right, They're all very well adjusted and yeah, 517 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 4: I've never done anything wrong. 518 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: They're like the greatest humans that's ever walked the earth, right, 519 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: like always every time. 520 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you remember affluenza? No, the guy is some 521 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 4: like entitled rich. We should honestly tell that story on here. 522 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 4: That's like a true crime story kind of, but it's 523 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 4: not horrific. I mean it kind of is horrific actually 524 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 4: in a way. But he uh, yeah, he was just 525 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 4: like out like drunk driving, like committing crimes, like ended 526 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 4: up like I think he branded somebody over with a car, 527 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 4: and then just was like I didn't think i'd do 528 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 4: anything wrong because I've just been so rich and sheltered 529 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 4: my whole life. 530 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what right and wrong are. 531 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 4: And that was their court case instead of that was 532 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: their defense, was that he was so rich and that's 533 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: why they called it affluenza instead of influenza. It's like 534 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 4: he was sick with being rich, so he didn't know 535 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: what what right was and what wrong was. 536 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 2: I think they lost. 537 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: Instead of pleading insanity, he pleaded entitlement yeah, he was like. 538 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 4: I'm just too rich to know what consequences are. That's 539 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 4: so you can't give them to me in sae. Quite 540 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: the fact the lawyers were with that is crazy. 541 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: They had no other defense, dude, there was nothing else 542 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: they could do it. 543 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: Hey, boys, we are absolutely eating this hailberry right here, 544 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens. So can we all agree, 545 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: like we would rather have the single mom who was 546 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: like trying to work and make it happen for her 547 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: and her son every Yeah, of course, if we had 548 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: to choose at the end of the day, regardless of 549 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: her intention, she was a companion for this dude at 550 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 1: the end of his life where no one else was 551 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: or no one was providing that for him. Hello, if 552 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: you're his son, don't you at least feel happy that 553 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: he got to feel happy that he had that last day. 554 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, because it's like, all right, like 555 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: the year when he's like ninety whatever or like eighty seven, 556 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: but the final years of his life that's important. 557 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: That's like the most important, right, am I wrong? 558 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 4: And it's got to feel pretty good to be ninety 559 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 4: one with a twenty seven year old wife, twenty five 560 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 4: year old wife well when they met, when they met, right, 561 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 4: twenty guys, yeah, twenty six. 562 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, you gotta feel pretty cool. Dude. 563 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 3: It's so weird because like it's like my great grandpa, 564 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 3: like going on a date with someone I graduated with, 565 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: or like dating someone. 566 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not you. It's not you. 567 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's really weird if you're great grand you know, 568 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 4: wouldn't that be weird? 569 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: Like, oh, no, for you, it would be weird, But 570 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 3: for him it would be awesome. He got Haylee Smith 571 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 3: and I never could. 572 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: He just got the game like that. 573 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 4: Hey, maybe if you work hard, you can inherit his 574 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 4: you know, the oil. 575 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 2: Typhoon industry that he made. 576 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: True slippery slope it is, Oh. 577 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: Slippery slippery slope it is. 578 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: But let's get onto update number four. The circus continues, 579 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: but there's hope. Hey everyone, back again with another update 580 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: on this never ending saw guy that is my life. 581 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: Hey, they're beautiful. 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