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Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us. Gentlemen. We've got
Speaker 2: a lot to talk about today.
Speaker 3: Kyle, what so you've gotta allow us to be what
Speaker 3: I what the stun is on and you're not gonna
Speaker 3: wear any of those going on?
Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm I want to see the viewers, I'm
Speaker 2: wanna see who I'm talking to. You just want to
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Speaker 3: To look deeply into his eyes so you can feel
Speaker 3: what he's saying right into his soul.
Speaker 2: It's exactly right.
Speaker 3: I respect that.
Speaker 2: If we had I would ask for Beamer to just
Speaker 2: zoom in on my face right now. But we don't
Speaker 2: have that. We don't have that. We're all good. We're
Speaker 2: all good, gentlemen. It's good to be back with you guys.
Speaker 2: I know we popped in for the last show, but
Speaker 2: this just feels right.
Speaker 5: It feels right, and get the crew is finally together, finally, finally.
Speaker 3: The last we have to come back to.
Speaker 4: Are we the last podcast to finally get everybody on
Speaker 4: the show together?
Speaker 5: John, No, Girls Talk still has a they're doing a
Speaker 5: rotating thing this year, and they're going.
Speaker 4: To have all of their people on respect to them
Speaker 4: because I mean, it is tough, and I'm sure that
Speaker 4: viewers probably and the listeners probably agree. It's it's tough
Speaker 4: having like a rotating chair back and forth, especially with
Speaker 4: that host that we have.
Speaker 2: A phenomenal job.
Speaker 5: You guys are coming up with stupid nicknames and everything. Man,
Speaker 5: what's this guy doing?
Speaker 3: What was the worst nickname, the Turpy Turpy Time Time,
Speaker 3: Turpy Speed Speed all the counts, the single most horrible
Speaker 3: nickname ever created for football players.
Speaker 5: But the people have spoken, Yes, people have people have
Speaker 5: spoken of your three that didn't like that name. There
Speaker 5: are ten times that first of.
Speaker 3: All, first of all, it was four speed, Like, this
Speaker 3: is politics. Where are these polls coming from the man
Speaker 3: recount outside of Tom Thumb getting polls from just one
Speaker 3: or two guys?
Speaker 2: Hey, do you like the name Turpy Turkey Time Speed?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he likes it too.
Speaker 3: He was just video evidence.
Speaker 5: There's video evidence of him absolutely loving the name.
Speaker 2: Have you posted?
Speaker 5: It was on the Cowboys app. It's on the Cowboys
Speaker 5: as it was in the Cowboys app. We don't have
Speaker 5: it anymore, but yeah.
Speaker 2: We have it. I can find it. We got it,
Speaker 2: got it, I can find it.
Speaker 3: Not to be rude and I respect that Cavante, you
Speaker 3: are a gentleman and a school loved it. He changed
Speaker 3: playing in your face, drag your name like ty speed
Speaker 3: speed Watch.
Speaker 4: The longest name is the first one that coined the
Speaker 4: turpin time whenever it happened.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's all it was. It was out in so
Speaker 2: far it was against the Chargers.
Speaker 4: It was me and Yeah and Bill Jones in the booth,
Speaker 4: and I mean, of course that was the game where
Speaker 4: Turpin had the kick return, he had the pump return,
Speaker 4: and he had both returned for a touchdown.
Speaker 2: And he was like, you've heard of you've heard of
Speaker 2: what was it? Show time time in the l a
Speaker 2: side of things. He's like, but this is turfent time.
Speaker 2: And that was when it kind of popped up.
Speaker 3: My cash app is.
Speaker 2: Cash trademarked it. He's still on the roster and he's
Speaker 2: got it done, got it done.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a big year for him, obviously with
Speaker 3: the rule changes, so I know we gotta have to
Speaker 3: talk to talk about, but that's that's gonna be a
Speaker 3: huge year.
Speaker 2: For It's a big week ahead.
Speaker 4: We've got the Cowboys in the practice field today. We've
Speaker 4: got the Rams coming to town on Thursday.
Speaker 3: Really excited about that.
Speaker 4: We'll have an extra show between now and then, so
Speaker 4: we'll get to preview that that joint practice what we're
Speaker 4: really looking for, maybe maybe even seeing some some special teams.
Speaker 2: Work in that too, where both teams get to work
Speaker 2: on their kickoff return.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely gonna see that. But I'm looking forward to
Speaker 3: some scuffles. You heard about the scuffle with the Giants
Speaker 3: and the Lions yesterday.
Speaker 2: Really it almost it was a manra and that was it.
Speaker 6: But Danny Danny, Danny Dimes Nickel, whatever you call him,
Speaker 6: he got in there too.
Speaker 3: But d it happens, joint call it. Every joint practice,
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some kind of scuffle. The reason why,
Speaker 3: let me help the fans understand this. The time in
Speaker 3: which you do a conjoint practice. That's when your body's
Speaker 3: starting to hurt, you're tired, you're irritated, you're tired, you're
Speaker 3: tired as you're starting to kind of get into the
Speaker 3: rut of training camp, and then they throw in a
Speaker 3: whole new team right in front of you. You're like,
Speaker 3: you know what, screw it, You're gonna get this work
Speaker 3: since since since I'm here, and since you're here, let's
Speaker 3: go ahead and get this aggression out. And it happens
Speaker 3: every single time. I don't think there's ever been a
Speaker 3: conjointing practice where we practice another team where there was
Speaker 3: not a fight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was talking before the last joint practice
Speaker 4: that was out here with the Rams twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: It was a while back, but the that the helmet swing,
Speaker 2: that was yeah, Aaron, that was Aaron Donald and Connor Williams.
Speaker 4: I was talking with somebody. I can't remember who the
Speaker 4: player was it was. It was a second string lineman,
Speaker 4: might have been Connor McGovern. But at the time I
Speaker 4: asked those like, what is different about a joint practice,
Speaker 4: and they said, you've been hitting the same jersey, You've
Speaker 4: been hitting your teammate for so long up until this point,
Speaker 4: but now you finally see another.
Speaker 2: Person and they're gonna come in here and they're gonna
Speaker 2: be extra physical with you. That ain't flying. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: not gonna fly. So it does.
Speaker 4: It changes the mentality of a practice. And Mike McCarthy
Speaker 4: was very adamant already. He's like, we aren't going to
Speaker 4: stand for fights.
Speaker 2: Hmm. If you throw a punch, you're out of the practice,
Speaker 2: not be practiced.
Speaker 3: Just a punch though, just at the same thing about kicks, headbutts,
Speaker 3: none of that stuff. Jabs said, I know, Bemer, I
Speaker 3: don't think Beamer has a mic, but Beamber, do you
Speaker 3: remember the time where we practiced against Denver Free years
Speaker 3: back when I was playing, and they kept threading up
Speaker 3: against us, and big Flozell Adams went in there and
Speaker 3: took somebody's heading off and.
Speaker 2: He did smiling.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, big flows of Adams goes in there
Speaker 3: cause they kept hidding I think it was t Choice
Speaker 3: or Felix John somebody. They kept hitting him on the
Speaker 3: ground and everybody was like, hey, chill out, we're supposed
Speaker 3: to be thudding up, which is just a pop of
Speaker 3: the shoulder pads. And they did it again and it
Speaker 3: was all out braw and big Floesel Adams, all six seven,
Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty pounds of him, goes over there.
Speaker 3: That just somebody's helmet off and is just swinging like
Speaker 3: a dog on wind. Oh, it was done and done.
Speaker 3: It was hilarious. Fit.
Speaker 2: I can't wait. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: We'll preview that a little bit more on Thursday.
Speaker 4: I'm not encouraging that you're not gonna be here Thursday
Speaker 4: right for the show at nine a m.
Speaker 2: Where are you gonna be? Wait on Thursday? Where are
Speaker 2: you gonna be?
Speaker 5: We just got back together and now you're splitting up
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Speaker 3: Right Friday. Let's make some changes. Now, let's make some
Speaker 3: change as of right now. Yeah, it's never confirmed.
Speaker 2: It's on the calendar, so that I mean, that's that's
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Speaker 3: I'm not that calendar.
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Speaker 2: Of course they're gonna ask you and you can.
Speaker 3: You can be fighting for your life and here's your
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Speaker 2: Here's your practice run on what to talk about with
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Let's start with some news and notes. Pat
Speaker 2: with a couple guys both in practice for the first
Speaker 2: time and uh still not in practice.
Speaker 3: Right. We got some great news and we got some
Speaker 3: not some great news. Let's start with the great news.
Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs Uh obviously clear from the pup list, but
Speaker 3: yesterday he was in full pads. But it wasn't just
Speaker 3: for show. He actually took some reps with both the
Speaker 3: first team and the second team. Obviously he's on a
Speaker 3: rep count as he comes back from the Tory A
Speaker 3: cl but it was great to see him out there.
Speaker 3: He's moving well, he's getting some anticipation with the team.
Speaker 3: Eric Kendricks also back. He was in full pass yesterday,
Speaker 3: moving well. He missed a couple of practices with some
Speaker 3: tightness in his back. Looks like he's back ready to go,
Speaker 3: Tyler guy, and he's battling an illness, So not great news,
Speaker 3: but being that it is an illness, he just needs
Speaker 3: to continue to buy some time, get better hydrate and
Speaker 3: he'll be back on the field shortly. He wasn't on
Speaker 3: the field Yesterday's missed about three practices to my account
Speaker 3: with that illness. So get well soon, Tyler guy, and
Speaker 3: we'll see him back. He was performing magnificently in first
Speaker 3: team reps when given the opportunity. Ryan Flanoy, rookie fifth
Speaker 3: round pick. He's been out for a couple of weeks
Speaker 3: with a knee injury, but he was in full pass yesterday,
Speaker 3: did not take team reps, but he's making strides towards
Speaker 3: getting back. Luke Schoolmaker dealing with a growing injury. We
Speaker 3: talk about how health is paramount for the former second
Speaker 3: round pick from twenty twenty three. He's missed a couple
Speaker 3: of practices. He was expected back on yesterday per Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 3: Come yesterday, he was not on the field. We'll talk
Speaker 3: to McCarthy again this morning. We'll see if Schoolmaker is
Speaker 3: going to be on the field effective today. On Tuesday,
Speaker 3: keep an eye on that. We got Israel mckuamu. Not
Speaker 3: great news for mukuamu. He left with a groin injury
Speaker 3: late last week in practice. He is expected to miss
Speaker 3: some time. TBD on what that time frame looks like,
Speaker 3: but as it stands talking with Mike McCarthy on yesterday,
Speaker 3: doesn't look like mcwamau will be on the field at
Speaker 3: all this week, which means he will miss likely miss
Speaker 3: the joint practice against the Rams and you can probably
Speaker 3: count him out against the Rams in the preseason game
Speaker 3: on Sunday as well. Running backs Room duce Vaughn, still
Speaker 3: dealing with that hamstring injury, did not return to practice
Speaker 3: on yesterday out three practices to my tally. But then
Speaker 3: that running backs room takes another hit with Royce Freeman
Speaker 3: leaving yesterday's practice early on with a groin injury. So
Speaker 3: running backs Room a couple of days there, but that
Speaker 3: gives more reps to guys like obviously Zekra Godowdell, but
Speaker 3: Malik Davis, Snoop Connor, those kinds of guys. So that's
Speaker 3: where we got room.
Speaker 4: Is such an interesting situation right now. I know we'll
Speaker 4: get into it a little bit here in a minute,
Speaker 4: but I want.
Speaker 2: To go all the way back to Diggs.
Speaker 4: Let's go right back to the top of the injury
Speaker 4: list here, right Whenever it comes to Diggs being back
Speaker 4: in the fold, he's not full swing yet, right Pat.
Speaker 2: He's kind of easing.
Speaker 4: Back into it, I say, and I saw it on
Speaker 4: Training Camp Live yesterday, But he's easing back into it,
Speaker 4: getting some combo reps, which is good.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 4: The fact that he's even on the field whenever the
Speaker 4: offense is also on the field is a positive thing. Well,
Speaker 4: tell me more about what you've seen from Diggs and
Speaker 4: them kind of inching him back on the forth.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, let's note that Diggs looked frustrated
Speaker 3: when he was pulled after a couple of first team
Speaker 3: reps for Naseean Right to be inserted in, because Diggs
Speaker 3: wanted to keep going. That's a fantastic sign. That tells
Speaker 3: you that your first team All Pro cornerback feels great,
Speaker 3: wants as many reps as possible. But it also shows
Speaker 3: you that the Cowboys and the training staff, Jim Ilbert
Speaker 3: Brown and the coaching staff, they're not going to rush
Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs back onto the field now. As far as
Speaker 3: his movements, he needs to get some rust off, But
Speaker 3: as far as being looking comfortable, looks very cofort the boat.
Speaker 3: There were a couple of plays that he closed in
Speaker 3: very well. Showed his quickness that on closing that made
Speaker 3: him such a value to the Cowboys and a franchise cornerback.
Speaker 3: So still being eased in, but mentally it looks like
Speaker 3: he's there because he wants to numb, numb, numb. All
Speaker 3: the reps, coaching staff is like, not await so fast.
Speaker 2: Well he got he got.
Speaker 3: Pulled out of practice because he looked almost too good.
Speaker 3: You really think about when we're doing the training camp live.
Speaker 3: He was doing such a good job of staying in
Speaker 3: the hip pocket of different receivers. And then when David
Speaker 3: Derden walked up to the line of scrimmage, he went
Speaker 3: up there and went to go put some Honda hands
Speaker 3: on him a little bit and then got turned around
Speaker 3: a little bit, but he closed the gap and was
Speaker 3: able to get a PBu and pass break up. And
Speaker 3: then after that they were like, all right, that was
Speaker 3: a little bit too close to contact. Come down. You
Speaker 3: could tell he started getting more confidence as practice went on.
Speaker 3: In the first couple of plays, he kind of just
Speaker 3: wanted to make sure his feet underneath him, his eyes
Speaker 3: were in the right place. But then as he started
Speaker 3: gaining more confidence in his abilities to get in and
Speaker 3: out of breaks, then he started really pushing the issue.
Speaker 3: And as soon as he did that made a good play,
Speaker 3: they're like, all right, that's enough for today.
Speaker 4: And he wasn't finishing at that level too, Like he
Speaker 4: wasn't finishing the rep. He was kind of taking his
Speaker 4: foot off the gas a little bit coasting to the
Speaker 4: finish line.
Speaker 2: And then the other two guys you mentioned, Tyler Geyiton,
Speaker 2: Luke Schoomaker, Josh. When you look at those two guys,
Speaker 2: I mean they're both young.
Speaker 4: Both high value draft picks. Schoomaker second round last year,
Speaker 4: Geiden of course first round this year. Of course, who
Speaker 4: needs those reps more right now? The ones that they're
Speaker 4: missing currently, whether it's for the illness for Guiding or
Speaker 4: the injury for schoon Man, one.
Speaker 5: Hundred percent for Guiden. But I'm actually not concerned about
Speaker 5: it at all. Like after practice, I saw him jogging
Speaker 5: out on the field and it doesn't seem I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't want to speculate, but it doesn't seem like
Speaker 5: there's any actual concern there. It is genuinely an illness
Speaker 5: that he will come back from and be taking those reps.
Speaker 5: But to go back to Trayvon really really quick, I
Speaker 5: still kind of have PTSD from Terrence Steel's injury last year,
Speaker 5: and I still have PTSD from you know, even Gallops
Speaker 5: injury and rushing him back maybe a little bit too soon,
Speaker 5: or you know, letting the player decide, like all right,
Speaker 5: I'm ready to get in. I like what they're doing
Speaker 5: with Trayvon kind of inching him back into the into practice.
Speaker 5: And you also want to give these cornerbacks a chance,
Speaker 5: the young cornerbacks a chance to get these reps against
Speaker 5: first team all pros. And if you think about it,
Speaker 5: I mean, you're gonna have Mark Cooper week one. That's
Speaker 5: obviously a you don't want to mess up against a
Speaker 5: Mary Cooper. You want to have Treyvon Digs in there. However,
Speaker 5: I don't think you see another wide receiver corps intact
Speaker 5: until Week six with Detroit. That's where I would like
Speaker 5: to see like full Trayvon in there at every snap.
Speaker 5: That's kind of I didn't want to go backwards too much,
Speaker 5: but that's kind of how I feel about Treyvon Digs.
Speaker 4: You've now created an entirely new nightmare in my head
Speaker 4: of Week one against a Mariy Cooper because.
Speaker 5: What could youss terrifying?
Speaker 4: Could you imagine the Cowboys fans in the way that
Speaker 4: they would take that game me included with a mari Cooper,
Speaker 4: if he goes for two forty and two touchdowns or
Speaker 4: like at least even one, something like he goes for
Speaker 4: one to twenty seven and two scores.
Speaker 2: I would, I don't want to.
Speaker 3: So I really okay, I don't as great as Mark
Speaker 3: Cooper is. I mean you're talking mega trun versus Brandon
Speaker 3: Card type numbers like let's let's not see that.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That would, but do it?
Speaker 4: If Trayvon Diggs isn't one hundred percent, do you feel
Speaker 4: confident that they could hold.
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper to under one hundred and fifty yards.
Speaker 3: I think they have the personnel to do it if
Speaker 3: you If if for whatever reason, Trayvon Diggs is not
Speaker 3: and when he when Kyle is saying less than one
Speaker 3: hundred percent doesn't mean physically, he means as far as
Speaker 3: the ramp up.
Speaker 4: And getting back he's on the field, he's physically.
Speaker 3: Then it just goes to adjustments. If you believe that
Speaker 3: you're gonna put Trayvon Diggs on any type of snap
Speaker 3: count in week one, then the question becomes, what are
Speaker 3: you doing with darn Bland? Are you going to travel
Speaker 3: him with Mary Cooper? Not necessarily something Mike McCarthy likes
Speaker 3: to see done, but or something that Dan Quinn I
Speaker 3: should say more specifically like to do. But maybe Mike
Speaker 3: Zimmer would be more open to that if he sees
Speaker 3: Amari Cooper is really starting to get off in the
Speaker 3: first quarter, then there's no reason there's there's no reason
Speaker 3: for him to say for him not to say, you
Speaker 3: know what, Duran, let's move you over here, Let's put
Speaker 3: Trayvon on wide receiver two, and let's kind of go
Speaker 3: from there, still allowing Jordan Lewis to do his thing,
Speaker 3: but also keep in mind Josh makes a good point
Speaker 3: about the rookies, and I understand the PTSD. We want
Speaker 3: to say the T stands for torn so post torn
Speaker 3: a stress disorder. I like that, But when it comes
Speaker 3: to some of these rookies, they've been the young guys.
Speaker 3: They've been stepping up. Kayln Carson, Carson, I can't sing it.
Speaker 3: Ap praises for a guy like Kayln Carson. He's come
Speaker 3: in and really taken advantage of the opportunities with Trevon
Speaker 3: Diggs sideline on the pup list and getting ramped up.
Speaker 3: So you could see a situation where even Kayln Carson
Speaker 3: gets thrown right into the fire. Because one thing about
Speaker 3: this Cowboys team is because they know how much youth
Speaker 3: they have to deal with, they're not afraid to throw
Speaker 3: a young guy out there and say show me what
Speaker 3: you got.
Speaker 2: Well, look at the guys that are the veterans of
Speaker 2: the group now.
Speaker 4: Trayvon Diggs thrown out there very quickly as a second
Speaker 4: round pick, Dron Blam thrown out there very quickly, mostly
Speaker 4: out of need, as a fifth round pick.
Speaker 2: Both of those guys stepped up in big, big areas as.
Speaker 4: Young players in that d bat room, Kayln Carson has
Speaker 4: an opportunity like that.
Speaker 2: What have you seen from Carson so far?
Speaker 3: He's a competitor. That's the one thing that I love
Speaker 3: about it. I mean you, that's kind of an expectation
Speaker 3: when you're playing in that cornerback position to kind of
Speaker 3: kind of be your own self motivator and be a
Speaker 3: guy that's in there yapping and being sticky, you know,
Speaker 3: standing in the hip pocket. But he is spelling with confidence.
Speaker 3: I Mean, this dude goes out there. He's not afraid
Speaker 3: to walk up into the receiver's face, He's not afraid
Speaker 3: to put hands on him.
Speaker 2: He does.
Speaker 3: He does a great job of getting out of his
Speaker 3: cuts and his brakes. You gotta remember, as a defensive back,
Speaker 3: you're always gonna be not always, but ninety percent of
Speaker 3: the time, you're gonna be reacting to when the receiver breaks,
Speaker 3: So receiver's gonna break first and then you respond. So
Speaker 3: you have that closing speed. Your ability to get out
Speaker 3: your break whenever you see somebody breaking down is very important.
Speaker 3: And that's one thing that you see consistently with him
Speaker 3: out here for these training camp reps is when guys
Speaker 3: got out of their break, he is right on their
Speaker 3: hip pocket. I mean he is putting a hand on here,
Speaker 3: he's getting past breakups and he used to putting his
Speaker 3: little seat belt on because that's what he does. He
Speaker 3: loves it and I love the energy that comes for him.
Speaker 3: So you you start talking about a healthy Trabon Diggs,
Speaker 3: you got darn Bland, Jay LOUI or Mike He's forgetting
Speaker 3: about Jay Lou. J Lou was an absolute dude last year.
Speaker 3: Absolutely no. He showed up in a major way, not
Speaker 3: only in coverage, but especially if you go back and
Speaker 3: watch the film, he showed up in a major way
Speaker 3: in a run defense. Okay, as much as everybody talks
Speaker 3: about how the run defense was not where they wanted
Speaker 3: to be, well, he's one of the reasons that it
Speaker 3: was even as good as it was because he was
Speaker 3: willing to stick his head in there, and then you
Speaker 3: ask him more depth with the with the.
Speaker 6: Young Kalin Carson and hopefully Nayshaun Wright and Eric Scott, those.
Speaker 3: Guys hopefully you know Eastcott from last year. If those
Speaker 3: guys all show up, then all of a sudden you
Speaker 3: have what was not your strong suit collectively now all
Speaker 3: of a sudden might become one of the strongest aspects
Speaker 3: of your team.
Speaker 5: One of the biggest resignings of the offseason by far
Speaker 5: as Jordan Lewis, and seeing him on the field now
Speaker 5: it solidifies that point even more. He's going to grow
Speaker 5: in this season, I feel like, especially with Mike Zimmers defense.
Speaker 5: Uh And to answer your question, I mean with Luke Scoomaker,
Speaker 5: I think the tight end.
Speaker 2: Room is full.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be surprised to see where the depth chart
Speaker 5: and the cuts sort of play out for the tight
Speaker 5: end room. But he needs those reps.
Speaker 3: Yes, he does, state your four God all right, So
Speaker 3: Jake the.
Speaker 5: Snake, of course I liked.
Speaker 2: Is that another one a big biscuits come up with
Speaker 2: the seat belt nickname for Carson two is that.
Speaker 5: No, that's the white forest thing. Okay, Jake the Snake,
Speaker 5: Scoon Maker, John Stevens Junior, and Brevin span Ford san Ford.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen much from him, but I've heard from
Speaker 2: great things. Yeah, I just haven't with my own two Knights.
Speaker 5: And hendershot is kind of on the bubble for me
Speaker 5: at the moment. But I think you can't dismiss John
Speaker 5: stevens run blocking ability.
Speaker 3: And you see him lately.
Speaker 5: Yes, last year to this year, I think it was
Speaker 5: pounds of the story.
Speaker 3: That cowboys dot com. Make sure you check that out.
Speaker 5: How many pounds of muscle it has to be?
Speaker 3: He said he's up. He was up six over pre
Speaker 3: draft another six, so twelve total pounds of lean muscle.
Speaker 3: He said he got with the nutrition staff made sure
Speaker 3: that the mass he was adding was lean muscle because
Speaker 3: he wanted to not only get better at inline blocking,
Speaker 3: but he also wanted to get better as if he
Speaker 3: necessarily needs it at contested catches and getting off of
Speaker 3: the press. So he's he's looking to do some real
Speaker 3: damag John Stevens.
Speaker 5: I suppose it didn't come to me. I could have
Speaker 5: helped him out, but that that's fine.
Speaker 3: John Stevens last year as good of a camp as
Speaker 3: he was having. He looked like a basketball player. Yeah, lanky, lanky,
Speaker 3: look like somebody was like, you grab him off the
Speaker 3: basketball courts, like you know what's done. You have talent
Speaker 3: the football field. Put some cleats on this year. He
Speaker 3: looks like a grown man. He looks like a grown man.
Speaker 3: And I was watching the individual rouse yesterday. He was
Speaker 3: getting in and out of his brakes. He still has
Speaker 3: soft hands. It's just for him, it's just continue to
Speaker 3: get those reps in practice. I think these joint practices
Speaker 3: are going to be huge for him. Obviously, that's gonna
Speaker 3: be his real his first real opportunity a getting some
Speaker 3: some contact there in terms of a competitive nature against
Speaker 3: another opponent outside of your team. And you know, you
Speaker 3: want to see how he responds to that adversity, because
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some ups, there's gonna be some downs.
Speaker 3: But ultimately, how are you going to use this mass
Speaker 3: Now you're no longer just a jump ball guy. Now
Speaker 3: to your point, you gotta put your hand on the ground.
Speaker 3: You gotta be able to go move some guys off
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. This run game has to be solid.
Speaker 3: They've they've they've obviously changed up things on the offensive line,
Speaker 3: you have a running back by committee. You don't have
Speaker 3: just a dude back there anymore, so it doesn't matter
Speaker 3: who's back there. I had an opportunity to speak with
Speaker 3: Zach Martin and I talked to him about the fact
Speaker 3: that a running back by committee is more of a
Speaker 3: compliment to the offensive line than anything because of the
Speaker 3: fact that it doesn't matter there's there. The organization is saying,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter who we put in the backfield. You
Speaker 3: guys are still gonna be successful because of what you
Speaker 3: guys are doing up front. A couple of quick points
Speaker 3: on the tight end depth chart as well. When it
Speaker 3: comes to Brevin span Forward, it's it's kind of it's odd.
Speaker 3: It's odd in that you see his demeanor off of
Speaker 3: the field and you know, huge guy by the way,
Speaker 3: but you know he has like this this aura of
Speaker 3: light where it's just like he's smileyest funds like dron Bland, right,
Speaker 3: But he's one of the brevin'span for and has been
Speaker 3: one of the biggest individuals who has instigated potential scuffles.
Speaker 3: It was him versus Kaitlin Cars and that wasn't his
Speaker 3: first time. Isn't like Brock Hoffman line. Yeah, exactly, a
Speaker 3: fan foreign.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's brock Coffin, brock Hoffin, brock
Speaker 4: Coffin looks for that opportunity.
Speaker 3: But what I would also say is when we're talking
Speaker 3: about the tight ends room, don't forget about Princeton Fan,
Speaker 3: because if you're talking about John Stevens Junior and his
Speaker 3: ability to improve upon his blocking, well, that's Princeton Fan's bag, right,
Speaker 3: is blocking. And that's why Mike McCarthy, when we spoke
Speaker 3: with Mike McCarthy on yesterday or the day before, uh,
Speaker 3: he mentioned that when it comes to a guy like
Speaker 3: Princeton Fan, his talent, his skill set doesn't really shine
Speaker 3: until the pats and the helmets come on and you
Speaker 3: do full padded practice. And that's because Princeton Fant is
Speaker 3: primarily a blocker. So that's something that the Cowboys are
Speaker 3: gonna want to have in their bag as well. Will
Speaker 3: it force them to the unconventional five tight end carrying,
Speaker 3: we don't know. But keeping my practice squad, you have
Speaker 3: three elevations, so you have that ability, you have to
Speaker 3: first first risk them to waivers. Princeton Fan. I'm a
Speaker 3: fan of his as well because of the fact that
Speaker 3: obviously you have one hundred lipkey that's your fullback from
Speaker 3: last year that's returning, and there's a great opportunity for
Speaker 3: him obviously to come back this year in that same capacity,
Speaker 3: but Princeton Fan can fulfill that role as well and
Speaker 3: seen him do that in training camp. But also when
Speaker 3: you start talking about the special teams aspects, you're going
Speaker 3: to need bigger bodies that can run and hit. There's
Speaker 3: always a place for a big guy who who is strong,
Speaker 3: who is fully willing to go out there and throw
Speaker 3: his body around and be effective in it.
Speaker 5: And we talked about that towards the end of last season.
Speaker 5: We were talking about the new special team rules where
Speaker 5: it's like you need those depth tight ends to be
Speaker 5: able to help on the new kickoff rules. You those
Speaker 5: are key roles now.
Speaker 4: And Mike McCarthy's always said it, you can't have enough
Speaker 4: guys that are six three, six four two twenty five
Speaker 4: two thirty like on your football team because of that element,
Speaker 4: because of special teams, because they can play fullback, they
Speaker 4: can play tight end, they can play linebacker.
Speaker 2: I mean, think of that, how that size was that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: There, Isaiah played like fifteen positions on the football field
Speaker 4: throughout his career because he fit that mold. So definitely
Speaker 4: guys that you can keep an eye on. We've already
Speaker 4: kind of started this conversation. I want to continue it
Speaker 4: into the second segment when we come back. It's a
Speaker 4: big week ahead, lots to look forward to, and guys
Speaker 4: trying to stand out to try and make that fifty
Speaker 4: three man roster. Mike McCarthy said, he's not looking at
Speaker 4: the fifty three man, but we certainly can. I've got
Speaker 4: an exercise. I'm gonna make it tough on you guys
Speaker 4: to narrow it down. I'm gonna make it really tough
Speaker 4: on you to try and pick your fifty three man
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Speaker 2: Quaker Oats bring out the good? How about that, you guys?
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Speaker 2: I did not bring out the good. Bring out the good? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you nails that better. Okay, I'll get it
Speaker 4: better next time. I sorry, guys, first time here. Yeah,
Speaker 4: exactly what you think, Isaiah. Did you get your oats in?
Speaker 3: Did not get my oats in?
Speaker 2: Call?
Speaker 3: I love my oats. As we all well know is
Speaker 3: it's just not currently in this current diet plan for
Speaker 3: me right now. But for those out there that have
Speaker 3: not had your oats, get your dog on old. It's
Speaker 3: a nice slow release, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Slow release.
Speaker 3: You get your get your get your.
Speaker 6: Protein in there, but you also get your carbs and
Speaker 6: it's gonna be just it's.
Speaker 2: A good thing. You did get your workout in this morning.
Speaker 2: I did do in some lunges six hundred yards. A
Speaker 2: matter of fact, Kyle, did you get an invite?
Speaker 3: I did not get an invote.
Speaker 2: Did you get an no?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: Because he knows what to work out, he knows better
Speaker 5: than to invite me to do to work out with Yes.
Speaker 3: Let's go, Yes go tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2: I worked out with you yesterday.
Speaker 3: Kind of fell into that one. Yeah, I just walked
Speaker 3: in happening. He doesn't want to get smer was out
Speaker 3: here early this morning sending up shot and he saw
Speaker 3: me out here here pumping in the sweating.
Speaker 2: I went on the I went on the ox tour
Speaker 2: this morning. I went on just a jog. I went
Speaker 2: down to the high school and back about three and
Speaker 2: a half miles. Crazy, big dude.
Speaker 4: I My feet are killing me right now because you
Speaker 4: because not only are you running on concrete, but then
Speaker 4: you're out here all day you're running around.
Speaker 3: Killing my back. I've been kind of reserving my my
Speaker 3: workouts for the evening, kind of like the shut down.
Speaker 3: You work out tonight and yeah, yeah, tonight. Actually I
Speaker 3: told Josh that yesterday. No, no, no, I can't do
Speaker 3: it right. There's something happening tonight. Can't work out.
Speaker 2: No, we can't use the.
Speaker 3: Gym until seven after seven. That's so tomorrow, Thursday, back
Speaker 3: to back Wednesday. I made some room nice, all right.
Speaker 3: You also didn't have to write this morning, all right.
Speaker 4: Of course, final installs coming up this week, Mike McCarthy saying,
Speaker 4: these last couple of practices are some of the toughest
Speaker 4: practices that they'll have throughout. I think the final install
Speaker 4: is today, right, pat final install, so that'll be completely done,
Speaker 4: and then you get into review, review, renew that kind
Speaker 4: of thing, and you go into uh, the joint practice
Speaker 4: with your full playbook at hand at least at the moment,
Speaker 4: so that's a good thing. Cowboys have a tough practice
Speaker 4: on hand today. But he has said that even throughout
Speaker 4: these final installs, there hasn't been an emphasis from the
Speaker 4: coaching staff on the fifty three man roster.
Speaker 2: So I have an exercise for you guys. I'm going
Speaker 2: to cut it short at every position. I know a
Speaker 2: this is not likely because you have to fill out
Speaker 2: fifty three names.
Speaker 4: Fifty three names are gonna be there, but every single position,
Speaker 4: I'm going to cut it short, and you have to
Speaker 4: make a decision on who gets in there because at
Speaker 4: some point these positions will be cut short.
Speaker 2: You mentioned tight end.
Speaker 4: Four names for tight end, It's realistic it could be
Speaker 4: three because they may take an extra offensive lineman, they
Speaker 4: may take an extra running back. Hunter Lipke could be
Speaker 4: technically classified in that tight end. Even though I know
Speaker 4: he's a fullback, he can maybe be in that fold.
Speaker 4: So I'll start with quarterback. There are three quarterbacks on
Speaker 4: the roster. You got to pick two.
Speaker 2: Where are you going with it? Josh Rodriguez, Dak Prescott,
Speaker 2: and Cooper Rush. Okay, that this idea is as easy
Speaker 2: as it's been in training camp. But tell me, I.
Speaker 5: I just don't think yeah. I mean it's a kind
Speaker 5: of a sensitive topic with fans out there. You spend
Speaker 5: the fourth round pick on Trey Lance. I think at
Speaker 5: this point, at this point in camp on August sixth,
Speaker 5: you haven't seen enough from Trey Lance to determine whether
Speaker 5: or not he needs to be, you know, the starter
Speaker 5: of the future. You know, I think that's a big
Speaker 5: loaded question for Trey Lance at this point. I'm sticking
Speaker 5: with Dak Prescott and Cooper Rush.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's August sixth, and as we have this conversation,
Speaker 3: Cooper Rush is leagues beyond where Trey Lance needs to get.
Speaker 3: So for me, it is Dak Prescott and is Scooper Rush.
Speaker 3: Is this to say that, uh, there's not time for
Speaker 3: Trey Lance to develop between now and roster cutdowns. Of
Speaker 3: course there is. There's three preseason games that still need
Speaker 3: to be played. He's going to get a ton of
Speaker 3: those reps. But as we have this conversation Cooper Rush,
Speaker 3: he's been the cool hand loop the whole time. He's
Speaker 3: been unbothered, unfettered, and he looks as comfortable as he
Speaker 3: needs to. I mean, he's a guy who came in
Speaker 3: and was four and one in the absence of Dak
Speaker 3: Prescott still looks great in camp. Trey Lance really needs
Speaker 3: to put the pedal to the floor. Agreed, And I
Speaker 3: you know again, I believe that Trey Lance will have
Speaker 3: a great opportunity and obviously in these three preseason games
Speaker 3: to show where he's capable of the difference right now
Speaker 3: is Cooper Russia's is fully confident in his capabilities to
Speaker 3: compete at this level. Trey Lance is not. And that's
Speaker 3: no indictment on him. Is just the fact that he
Speaker 3: just has not had that experience yet. And right now
Speaker 3: he's still hesitating, He's not anticipating, he is not fully
Speaker 3: confident in his ability to be able to deliver the ball,
Speaker 3: see trust what he's seeing, all those things. It's just
Speaker 3: a little bit of hesitation and at this level of competition,
Speaker 3: you can't have that. Now again to you guys, you
Speaker 3: guys made a very you know, you guys emphasize at
Speaker 3: this particular date because those three preseason games, the whole
Speaker 3: world would change around. And understand, when you're a professional athlete,
Speaker 3: confidence is absolutely everything. And you can see that change
Speaker 3: literally in one single drive where you see a whole
Speaker 3: new version of Trey Lance that we have not seen
Speaker 3: to date. I'm hoping that that's the case for him,
Speaker 3: but as of right now, it's Dak and Cooper.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people hoping for that.
Speaker 3: By the way, I'll add one quick thing when it
Speaker 3: comes to Trey Lance versus Cooper Rush. Keep in mind,
Speaker 3: and I've reported this often, and I love the fact
Speaker 3: that Jalen Brooks said it yesterday as well. Brandon Cook
Speaker 3: spoke on it. Mike Zimmer's defense is disguising itself to
Speaker 3: magnitudes that even Dak Prescott may not be accustomed to
Speaker 3: at this point. And he's seen most of it all,
Speaker 3: if not at all. So when you talk about Trey Lance,
Speaker 3: add that to some of the reasons why he's struggling
Speaker 3: so far in camp, because whereas Cooper Rush has seen
Speaker 3: most of it and Dak Prescott has nearly seen it all,
Speaker 3: Trey Lance can't necessarily argue that, and Mike Zimmer has
Speaker 3: him more or less confused at the moment. I want
Speaker 3: to put this out there before the season is gone.
Speaker 3: I was not an av well, I want to say
Speaker 3: it was an advocate. I didn't believe there was a
Speaker 3: high probability that Dak was going to get a new contract. Now,
Speaker 3: with what I've seen in training camp from coach Zimmer,
Speaker 3: I think that changes. And the reason why is because
Speaker 3: I don't think that you've seen the best version of
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott yet from the stand that you don't watch
Speaker 3: a lot of film, yep. And I've always said that
Speaker 3: Dak struggles with a lot of disguises and it gets
Speaker 3: him in trouble. And that's that was really the achilles
Speaker 3: heel of him as as.
Speaker 2: We're talking about it on this show qu a little bit.
Speaker 3: The things that he is seeing in practice every single
Speaker 3: day is addressing and continually working on his achilles heel.
Speaker 3: So if he's getting that work on what he quote
Speaker 3: unquote lacks at in practice every day, what are you
Speaker 3: going to see from him when he steps on the
Speaker 3: field against other opponents. Mike Zimmer might be more of
Speaker 3: a of a pickup for Dak Prescott more than it might.
Speaker 2: I like it, I really do, and I've said that before.
Speaker 4: This defense, in this scheme does not only benefit the
Speaker 4: defensive backs and the way that they are able to
Speaker 4: disguise and able to move around, and it helps the
Speaker 4: pressure up front. It helps Dak Prescott and what he's
Speaker 4: seeing and what he's able to read, and if he's
Speaker 4: looking good out here, which he has, I think you
Speaker 4: could argue he's probably a top five players.
Speaker 2: Camp so far, maybe top three. Just throw on point.
Speaker 4: If he can continue that against the defense like this
Speaker 4: in the games, it might be a whole different story.
Speaker 2: That touched a different story? Was it to wort yesterday?
Speaker 4: That was incredible? All right, I'm gonna switch that. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go back and forth offense and defense. Let's go linebackers.
Speaker 4: The linebackers have been fun to watch. You think I'm
Speaker 4: gonna give you here, I'm giving you four. I'm making
Speaker 4: it really hard. Give me four linebackers, dog, I am
Speaker 4: a mom. Okay, four linebackers, man.
Speaker 3: I need a second. Okay, I'm gonna go Eric Kendricks,
Speaker 3: Damon and Clark to Marve over shown.
Speaker 2: And Mike doesn't count. I know he'll play both.
Speaker 3: I like what I'm saying from some of the younger guys,
Speaker 3: Buddy Johnson, undrafted guy like Jason Johnson. But Willie Harvey
Speaker 3: Junior is out here showing his backside a right. So yeah,
Speaker 3: let me tell you Willie Harvey Jr. Not in this order, obviously,
Speaker 3: Willy Harvey, Junior, Eric Kendricks, the Moon Clark and mar
Speaker 3: over show in his.
Speaker 5: Mouthful, I'm gonna go Eric Hendricks of course, uh, Marvin
Speaker 5: Overshon of course, the moon Clark, of course, and then
Speaker 5: Mary's lulfoul.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's mine, rookie.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, you can't. You're you're done.
Speaker 3: Who'd you say?
Speaker 2: You say dance?
Speaker 3: It was no, I will said Willie, Okay, will. I
Speaker 3: can't know if it was five. They have to because
Speaker 3: I can't take the rookie third round pick out of
Speaker 3: the equation. Even though I love what Willie Harvey is doing.
Speaker 3: It's a rookie third round pick. If you had five five,
Speaker 3: then it's hardly Marris. Would it be Willy hard Willy.
Speaker 2: Harvey and Merrison would be different.
Speaker 8: I like you.
Speaker 3: I love what Willie Harvey is doing, but in terms
Speaker 3: of what the rotation has been, it has been Damian Wilson.
Speaker 4: Okay, So Damien's outside of it, and I'm doing a
Speaker 4: story for the countdown to kickoff for and it's on
Speaker 4: Eric Ken. Eric Kendricks has more tackles, tackles for loss,
Speaker 4: and sacks than the entire rest of the linebacking coret
Speaker 4: combined and we got a young and Damian Wilson is
Speaker 4: the only one that it's even remotely close, because Damian
Speaker 4: Wilson's played nine seasons in the NFL before, so he's
Speaker 4: been around.
Speaker 3: Kendrick looks fantastic out there. But so so we're clear,
Speaker 3: I'm changing mind, Okay, har I haven't had breakfast yet.
Speaker 3: I didn't have my oats yet, okay. So love with
Speaker 3: lea file showing. Also he's getting some burn with the
Speaker 3: first teamers. He gets he's getting comfortable, he's playing fast
Speaker 3: now and as he learns the system. So absolutely it's
Speaker 3: it's Kendricks, it's Damone Clark, it's over shown and it's
Speaker 3: Leo and Harvey is five. If I can get five,
Speaker 3: get me five.
Speaker 5: Though, I want to emphasize something really quick about marys Lilulfoul.
Speaker 5: The speed of maryslul Foul. He's getting from sideline to
Speaker 5: sideline in blazing speed.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: He might be a new Turby Derby speeds, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like he's kind of on that level.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, possibly, possibly not.
Speaker 4: In talking with Eric Hendricks yesterday, he had very high
Speaker 4: words on it, and he said that he fits perfectly
Speaker 4: as a Mike Zimmer guy. He said he's a Mike
Speaker 4: Zimmer prototype because he can rush, he can blitz, he
Speaker 4: can read and react and then go. He can shoot
Speaker 4: the A gap, B gap, whatever he can do.
Speaker 2: I mean, it all adds into what Zimmer wants out
Speaker 2: of line out of the linebackers.
Speaker 3: Extremely cerebral, his football IQ is insanely hot, and I
Speaker 3: love his energy.
Speaker 2: I don't want to.
Speaker 5: I don't want to put too many expectations on this guy.
Speaker 5: But doesn't he kind of look like build wise and
Speaker 5: speed wise? Doesn't he look like Fred Warner a little bit?
Speaker 3: Oh you went all the way to Fred. I was
Speaker 3: going to stop the Shawn and.
Speaker 4: That was Sean football, Like, yeah, football doesn't look like
Speaker 4: Sean is more more style.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the football. The speed, the speed is phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the speed is good.
Speaker 2: So not quite there yet, not quite there yet.
Speaker 5: And I don't want to put those expectations on him
Speaker 5: or anything like that, but like, similar looks in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Especially if he bulkes up and he grows into the
Speaker 2: frame right, it could be completely.
Speaker 3: I don't want to put too much pressure on the
Speaker 3: young guy, but future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: That's not my but like just very good and his
Speaker 2: rookie camp.
Speaker 4: Absolutely all right, let's talk about let's go with three
Speaker 4: running backs here, and I'm gonna put Hunter Lipkey in
Speaker 4: the running back category. In the running back category, Hunter, like,
Speaker 4: three tailbacks is all you get?
Speaker 3: Oh you get his three? All you get is three?
Speaker 5: I mean Zeke of course, Rico and Hunter Lipke.
Speaker 2: Okay, same, it's same, okay, same.
Speaker 5: I expected a more of a battle here at the
Speaker 5: thing the thing is for me is.
Speaker 3: That if we are putting Hunter lip Key in the
Speaker 3: running back category, then you have to know he's going
Speaker 3: to make the team. And as it stands on August sixth,
Speaker 3: the battle for who gets the most carries at one
Speaker 3: is between Rico and z we talked about at the
Speaker 3: top of the show. News and notes. Duce Vaughan is
Speaker 3: dealing with the hamstring injury. He's missed several practices, right
Speaker 3: Royce Freeman. We don't know if he's going to miss
Speaker 3: time with the growing injury. So just the battle of
Speaker 3: attrition health wise is starting to happen before the first
Speaker 3: preseason game even happened. So do you The question is, then,
Speaker 3: do you think Snoop, Connor and or Maliite Davis overcomes
Speaker 3: any of those three. I don't necessarily see that.
Speaker 6: My three is hunterd lib Key, Rico and Freeman.
Speaker 2: You just cut Zeke.
Speaker 9: I have.
Speaker 3: I have no doubt that that Zeke has the capabilities
Speaker 3: of playing. But I don't. I don't sense the same passion. Okay, interesting,
Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't sense the passion. Again, that's it.
Speaker 6: That's subjective, obviously, that's just my opinion.
Speaker 3: I just don't sense the I don't I don't get
Speaker 3: the vibe that he's as passion it about the game
Speaker 3: as he once was. Okay, that has nothing to do
Speaker 3: with whether he can or cannot produce. I just don't
Speaker 3: get that that sense. Did were you evaluating him on
Speaker 3: the day he got hit in the special part? They
Speaker 3: won't take your passion real That is where I'm at
Speaker 3: with it. I think he's fully capable of going out
Speaker 3: there and continue to produce, you know, and you know,
Speaker 3: obviously in in a in a joint role with the
Speaker 3: other with the other guys. But I don't know. We'll
Speaker 3: see how it plays out there. The Freeman injury does
Speaker 3: affect that in a major way.
Speaker 2: I think more than likely you're gonna have four, guys,
Speaker 2: You'll probably have you give us three because I'm trying
Speaker 2: to make it hard on you, guys.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to have conversations like this, and I give
Speaker 4: credit to Isaiah for at least getting out there with it.
Speaker 4: All right, defensive line, I'm giving you eight. This is
Speaker 4: the last one we'll do, and then we got to
Speaker 4: take our last break.
Speaker 2: Eight.
Speaker 5: So Rodriguez, oh man, he keeps starting me over again,
Speaker 5: Marshall Nieland to Marcus Lawrence, Michael Parsons, Uh, I think
Speaker 5: you can we can all agree on those three, MASI okay,
Speaker 5: how many more do I have?
Speaker 2: Three more?
Speaker 5: Let's see? This is tough, man, This is really tough Johnson,
Speaker 5: Darrel john Wow, Okay, Daryl Johnson, like, is that a
Speaker 5: spicy take?
Speaker 3: That's spicy?
Speaker 2: That it's spicy, but I like he's had a good can.
Speaker 5: Denzel Jackson, Oh, that's real spicy, And man, I really
Speaker 5: can't get like that last one on the that last one.
Speaker 3: Tyris Wheet, Okay, good special teams last year. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: so it was Johnson as far as depth goes. Tyres
Speaker 3: Whet eight total eight total, Micah Okay, Chauncey Mosa, Marshawn, Mazzie.
Speaker 2: D Law Okay.
Speaker 6: Then I'm at a Kwadea mohammet okay, and big Justin Rogers.
Speaker 3: That I liked it because I predicted earlier this offseason
Speaker 3: that Justin Rodgers would make the team. So I'm going
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Speaker 2: That would be my exact day right there. All right,
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Speaker 4: When we come back, we're gonna talk about some of
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Speaker 4: at training camp. We'll give it a top three when
Speaker 4: we come back. More talking cowboys.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love that.
Speaker 4: Actually, that would be hilarious. I'm gonna see if I
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Speaker 2: Plaster talent coach to the stars.
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Speaker 4: Top three position groups that have impressed you so far
Speaker 4: in training camp. We gotta be quick and get out
Speaker 4: of here. I'll start with you, Isaiah. Top three position groups.
Speaker 4: Corner okay, Defensive line, are you throwing AD, J and
Speaker 4: D tackle in there or more than like?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: And then I think the receiver group has showed up.
Speaker 3: I think the receiver group has showed up. Tyron Billy
Speaker 3: Johnson has done a really good job. He's shown up,
Speaker 3: Cropper has shown up, Brooks has continuing to show up.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how to pan out. I want to
Speaker 3: see the morph turp.
Speaker 2: Okay, I like it.
Speaker 3: I'm going to wide receiver group, not in any particular order,
Speaker 3: by the way wide receiver group, talk about Tyron Billy Johnson,
Speaker 3: Jaylen Cropper, Jalen Brooks, Jayalen Tobert taking advantage of CD
Speaker 3: Lamb working through his contract. Cornerbacks in the absence of
Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs. Trayvon obviously back now, but Kaitlyn Carson taking
Speaker 3: those strategy and which is still out there being an
Speaker 3: absolute gamer Deron Bland. But I cannot say enough about
Speaker 3: this linebacker linebackers. Linebackers, linebackers they are. They went from
Speaker 3: being completely deficient absent DeMont Clark as far as true
Speaker 3: linebackers to just spilling over the brim of the cup
Speaker 3: with the running over a disciplined linebackers are. They're playing quick,
Speaker 3: they're playing fast, they're playing instinctual. And when you talk
Speaker 3: about run defense, they have been sensational and stopping the
Speaker 3: run and feeling those lanes and feeling those gaps and
Speaker 3: uh so, yeah, for me, linebackers is it's just they're
Speaker 3: showing up.
Speaker 2: I gotta go.
Speaker 5: Offensive line is particularly the center position. Uh there's a
Speaker 5: kind of a battle there that we've talked about a
Speaker 5: couple of times with brock Hoffman and Cooper beb and
Speaker 5: uh determining what that actually looks like.
Speaker 3: There you Uh, that's what.
Speaker 2: Do you think?
Speaker 5: When's that week one? It's brock Hoffman Kaufman. Uh, it's
Speaker 5: and it's a surprise to everybody that hasn't been watching
Speaker 5: training camp basically.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 5: And then I also have to go linebackers. Of course,
Speaker 5: we talked about it, like I said, the speed of
Speaker 5: Mary's Lui Fou is just incredible. And then also I
Speaker 5: have to give a shout out to the wide receiving corps.
Speaker 5: Again we talked about it. But the biggest surprise for
Speaker 5: me is Tyron Billy Johnson. To you know, he was
Speaker 5: undrafted in twenty nineteen. He has been with let me
Speaker 5: just say this real quick, the Texans, the Bills, the Texans,
Speaker 5: the Chargers, the Panthers, the Jags, the Raiders, the Texans,
Speaker 5: the Bengals, and the Niners. He is playing here like
Speaker 5: he's going to stay. I am really looking forward to
Speaker 5: seeing the rest of his camp and seeing him in
Speaker 5: the preseason games because that's when it actually counts, that's
Speaker 5: when it matters, and that's how you make the team,
Speaker 5: especially when you're a guy like Tyron Billy Johnson really
Speaker 5: showing out and he's had I feel like he's had
Speaker 5: inconsistent days where he shines, but when he does shine,
Speaker 5: he shines bright.
Speaker 2: I agree completely.
Speaker 4: I think if anybody's stock has risen the most throughout
Speaker 4: training camp, it's Tyron Billy Johnson. He was a guy
Speaker 4: who was maybe a fringe roster player, not even roster player,
Speaker 4: fringe practice squad player at some point, probably right around
Speaker 4: that eighty mark on the ross. And now he's taking
Speaker 4: snaps with the ones. He's going out there and I
Speaker 4: know CD's not here. I know they're holding Brandon.
Speaker 3: Cooks out there still, but it's still He's still.
Speaker 4: In there with Jalen Tolbert, Cavante Turpin, and it's Tyron
Speaker 4: Billy Johnson.
Speaker 2: That is a huge, huge jump in a short amount
Speaker 2: of time. And he's earned the respective guys like My
Speaker 2: McCarthy as a play caller.
Speaker 4: He's earned the respective of Schottenheimer as the offense coordinator,
Speaker 4: and he's certainly earned a respect And he talked about
Speaker 4: it on the stage. Dak Prescott has seen what Tyron
Speaker 4: Billy Johnson is doing.
Speaker 2: That that's great.
Speaker 3: And I'll say this because this also speaks to Tyrant
Speaker 3: Billy Johnson's mindset. I had an off the cuff conversation
Speaker 3: with him a few days ago, and this is one
Speaker 3: of the several fantastic quotes that stuck out.
Speaker 2: Quote.
Speaker 3: I want to reintroduce myself and earn the coaches trust,
Speaker 3: and that's the biggest thing for me. I don't want
Speaker 3: to be a superstar practice guy. I want to do
Speaker 3: it on Sundays.
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go.
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Speaker 2: Nate billy white shoes. That is that a nickname?
Speaker 3: That's big Big Nate gave him that nickname. I that yeah,
Speaker 3: that one, that one has finesse thing billy white shoes.
Speaker 4: All right, that does it for us here on Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Hope you had some fun with us here over the
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Speaker 2: So we will be back on Thursday again.
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