1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: This He's Talking Cowboys Training live from Dallas Cowboys Training 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: Camp in Oxnard, Calisay. 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: Six past second pass, got tittons any continent. 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: Touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans. 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 4: It's a training competition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 4: Rifle Coffee Company live from Oxnard, California and Cowboys Training 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 4: Camp twenty twenty four presented by American Airlines. 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: We are back in the building. 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 4: It is the entire crew of Talking Cowboys for the 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four season. We've got Isaiah stand Back back 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 4: in the building, Patrick no C. Walker in his triumphant 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: return to Talking Cowboys, and then Josh Rodriguez Jay rod 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: himself down at the end. 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad you're with us. Gentlemen. We've got 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: a lot to talk about today. 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 3: Kyle, what so you've gotta allow us to be what 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: I what the stun is on and you're not gonna 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: wear any of those going on? 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm I want to see the viewers, I'm 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: wanna see who I'm talking to. You just want to 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: pull the uncle. 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 3: To look deeply into his eyes so you can feel 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 3: what he's saying right into his soul. 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: It's exactly right. 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: I respect that. 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: If we had I would ask for Beamer to just 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: zoom in on my face right now. But we don't 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: have that. We don't have that. We're all good. We're 33 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: all good, gentlemen. It's good to be back with you guys. 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: I know we popped in for the last show, but 35 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: this just feels right. 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 5: It feels right, and get the crew is finally together, finally, finally. 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: The last we have to come back to. 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 4: Are we the last podcast to finally get everybody on 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: the show together? 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 5: John, No, Girls Talk still has a they're doing a 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 5: rotating thing this year, and they're going. 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: To have all of their people on respect to them 43 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: because I mean, it is tough, and I'm sure that 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 4: viewers probably and the listeners probably agree. It's it's tough 45 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 4: having like a rotating chair back and forth, especially with 46 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 4: that host that we have. 47 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: A phenomenal job. 48 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 5: You guys are coming up with stupid nicknames and everything. Man, 49 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 5: what's this guy doing? 50 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: What was the worst nickname, the Turpy Turpy Time Time, 51 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: Turpy Speed Speed all the counts, the single most horrible 52 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: nickname ever created for football players. 53 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 5: But the people have spoken, Yes, people have people have 54 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 5: spoken of your three that didn't like that name. There 55 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 5: are ten times that first of. 56 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 3: All, first of all, it was four speed, Like, this 57 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: is politics. Where are these polls coming from the man 58 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: recount outside of Tom Thumb getting polls from just one 59 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: or two guys? 60 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: Hey, do you like the name Turpy Turkey Time Speed? 61 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: Yeah? 62 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he likes it too. 63 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: He was just video evidence. 64 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 5: There's video evidence of him absolutely loving the name. 65 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: Have you posted? 66 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 5: It was on the Cowboys app. It's on the Cowboys 67 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 5: as it was in the Cowboys app. We don't have 68 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 5: it anymore, but yeah. 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: We have it. I can find it. We got it, 70 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: got it, I can find it. 71 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: Not to be rude and I respect that Cavante, you 72 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: are a gentleman and a school loved it. He changed 73 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: playing in your face, drag your name like ty speed 74 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: speed Watch. 75 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 4: The longest name is the first one that coined the 76 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: turpin time whenever it happened. 77 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: Okay, that's all it was. It was out in so 78 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: far it was against the Chargers. 79 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: It was me and Yeah and Bill Jones in the booth, 80 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: and I mean, of course that was the game where 81 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 4: Turpin had the kick return, he had the pump return, 82 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: and he had both returned for a touchdown. 83 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: And he was like, you've heard of you've heard of 84 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: what was it? Show time time in the l a 85 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: side of things. He's like, but this is turfent time. 86 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: And that was when it kind of popped up. 87 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: My cash app is. 88 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: Cash trademarked it. He's still on the roster and he's 89 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: got it done, got it done. 90 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a big year for him, obviously with 91 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: the rule changes, so I know we gotta have to 92 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: talk to talk about, but that's that's gonna be a 93 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: huge year. 94 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: For It's a big week ahead. 95 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 4: We've got the Cowboys in the practice field today. We've 96 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: got the Rams coming to town on Thursday. 97 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: Really excited about that. 98 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 4: We'll have an extra show between now and then, so 99 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: we'll get to preview that that joint practice what we're 100 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 4: really looking for, maybe maybe even seeing some some special teams. 101 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: Work in that too, where both teams get to work 102 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: on their kickoff return. 103 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely gonna see that. But I'm looking forward to 104 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: some scuffles. You heard about the scuffle with the Giants 105 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: and the Lions yesterday. 106 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: Really it almost it was a manra and that was it. 107 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 6: But Danny Danny, Danny Dimes Nickel, whatever you call him, 108 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 6: he got in there too. 109 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: But d it happens, joint call it. Every joint practice, 110 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: there's gonna be some kind of scuffle. The reason why, 111 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: let me help the fans understand this. The time in 112 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: which you do a conjoint practice. That's when your body's 113 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: starting to hurt, you're tired, you're irritated, you're tired, you're 114 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: tired as you're starting to kind of get into the 115 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: rut of training camp, and then they throw in a 116 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: whole new team right in front of you. You're like, 117 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: you know what, screw it, You're gonna get this work 118 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: since since since I'm here, and since you're here, let's 119 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: go ahead and get this aggression out. And it happens 120 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: every single time. I don't think there's ever been a 121 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: conjointing practice where we practice another team where there was 122 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: not a fight. 123 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was talking before the last joint practice 124 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: that was out here with the Rams twenty twenty one. 125 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: It was a while back, but the that the helmet swing, 126 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: that was yeah, Aaron, that was Aaron Donald and Connor Williams. 127 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 4: I was talking with somebody. I can't remember who the 128 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 4: player was it was. It was a second string lineman, 129 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 4: might have been Connor McGovern. But at the time I 130 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 4: asked those like, what is different about a joint practice, 131 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 4: and they said, you've been hitting the same jersey, You've 132 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 4: been hitting your teammate for so long up until this point, 133 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 4: but now you finally see another. 134 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: Person and they're gonna come in here and they're gonna 135 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: be extra physical with you. That ain't flying. Yeah, that's 136 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: not gonna fly. So it does. 137 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 4: It changes the mentality of a practice. And Mike McCarthy 138 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: was very adamant already. He's like, we aren't going to 139 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 4: stand for fights. 140 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: Hmm. If you throw a punch, you're out of the practice, 141 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 2: not be practiced. 142 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: Just a punch though, just at the same thing about kicks, headbutts, 143 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: none of that stuff. Jabs said, I know, Bemer, I 144 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: don't think Beamer has a mic, but Beamber, do you 145 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 3: remember the time where we practiced against Denver Free years 146 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: back when I was playing, and they kept threading up 147 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: against us, and big Flozell Adams went in there and 148 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: took somebody's heading off and. 149 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 2: He did smiling. 150 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, big flows of Adams goes in there 151 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 3: cause they kept hidding I think it was t Choice 152 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: or Felix John somebody. They kept hitting him on the 153 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 3: ground and everybody was like, hey, chill out, we're supposed 154 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 3: to be thudding up, which is just a pop of 155 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: the shoulder pads. And they did it again and it 156 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: was all out braw and big Floesel Adams, all six seven, 157 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty pounds of him, goes over there. 158 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: That just somebody's helmet off and is just swinging like 159 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: a dog on wind. Oh, it was done and done. 160 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 3: It was hilarious. Fit. 161 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: I can't wait. It's gonna be a lot of fun. 162 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: We'll preview that a little bit more on Thursday. 163 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: I'm not encouraging that you're not gonna be here Thursday 164 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: right for the show at nine a m. 165 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: Where are you gonna be? Wait on Thursday? Where are 166 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: you gonna be? 167 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 5: We just got back together and now you're splitting up 168 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 5: the band again. 169 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: In the studio. 170 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: It's for a great reason. 171 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be making my first appearance on Good 172 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: Morning Football with NFL. 173 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: You Wow, how about that? Baby? 174 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: Congratulations Well, NFL network, Good Morning Football, Thursday and Friday. 175 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: Right Friday. Let's make some changes. Now, let's make some 176 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: change as of right now. Yeah, it's never confirmed. 177 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: It's on the calendar, so that I mean, that's that's 178 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: pretty good. 179 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: I'm not that calendar. 180 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: I'm not. 181 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: That means big stuff, my squad. 182 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: If we're talking Cowboys nation, and if you're listening and 183 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: you've been listening for a long time, of course, Isaiah's 184 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: on since twenty twenty. 185 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: We need to blow up social media that day Thursday 186 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: and Friday. 187 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 4: We need the tags, we need the red tweets, we 188 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: need the quote tweets, we need all of Good Morning Football. 189 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 4: We needed the entire NFL nation to know that Isaiah 190 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: Standback has arrived at the network level. 191 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 5: Don't got to break the internetboys, I wonder. 192 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: Of course they're gonna ask you and you can. 193 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: You can be fighting for your life and here's your 194 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: practice run. Oh my life, I had to fight. 195 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: Here's your practice run on what to talk about with 196 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Let's start with some news and notes. Pat 197 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: with a couple guys both in practice for the first 198 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: time and uh still not in practice. 199 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: Right. We got some great news and we got some 200 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: not some great news. Let's start with the great news. 201 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs Uh obviously clear from the pup list, but 202 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: yesterday he was in full pads. But it wasn't just 203 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: for show. He actually took some reps with both the 204 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 3: first team and the second team. Obviously he's on a 205 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 3: rep count as he comes back from the Tory A 206 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: cl but it was great to see him out there. 207 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: He's moving well, he's getting some anticipation with the team. 208 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: Eric Kendricks also back. He was in full pass yesterday, 209 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: moving well. He missed a couple of practices with some 210 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 3: tightness in his back. Looks like he's back ready to go, 211 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: Tyler guy, and he's battling an illness, So not great news, 212 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: but being that it is an illness, he just needs 213 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 3: to continue to buy some time, get better hydrate and 214 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: he'll be back on the field shortly. He wasn't on 215 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: the field Yesterday's missed about three practices to my account 216 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 3: with that illness. So get well soon, Tyler guy, and 217 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: we'll see him back. He was performing magnificently in first 218 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: team reps when given the opportunity. Ryan Flanoy, rookie fifth 219 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: round pick. He's been out for a couple of weeks 220 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 3: with a knee injury, but he was in full pass yesterday, 221 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: did not take team reps, but he's making strides towards 222 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 3: getting back. Luke Schoolmaker dealing with a growing injury. We 223 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: talk about how health is paramount for the former second 224 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 3: round pick from twenty twenty three. He's missed a couple 225 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: of practices. He was expected back on yesterday per Mike McCarthy. 226 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: Come yesterday, he was not on the field. We'll talk 227 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: to McCarthy again this morning. We'll see if Schoolmaker is 228 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: going to be on the field effective today. On Tuesday, 229 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: keep an eye on that. We got Israel mckuamu. Not 230 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: great news for mukuamu. He left with a groin injury 231 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 3: late last week in practice. He is expected to miss 232 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: some time. TBD on what that time frame looks like, 233 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: but as it stands talking with Mike McCarthy on yesterday, 234 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: doesn't look like mcwamau will be on the field at 235 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: all this week, which means he will miss likely miss 236 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: the joint practice against the Rams and you can probably 237 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 3: count him out against the Rams in the preseason game 238 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: on Sunday as well. Running backs Room duce Vaughn, still 239 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: dealing with that hamstring injury, did not return to practice 240 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 3: on yesterday out three practices to my tally. But then 241 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: that running backs room takes another hit with Royce Freeman 242 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: leaving yesterday's practice early on with a groin injury. So 243 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 3: running backs Room a couple of days there, but that 244 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: gives more reps to guys like obviously Zekra Godowdell, but 245 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: Malik Davis, Snoop Connor, those kinds of guys. So that's 246 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: where we got room. 247 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 4: Is such an interesting situation right now. I know we'll 248 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: get into it a little bit here in a minute, 249 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: but I want. 250 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: To go all the way back to Diggs. 251 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: Let's go right back to the top of the injury 252 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 4: list here, right Whenever it comes to Diggs being back 253 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 4: in the fold, he's not full swing yet, right Pat. 254 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: He's kind of easing. 255 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 4: Back into it, I say, and I saw it on 256 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 4: Training Camp Live yesterday, But he's easing back into it, 257 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 4: getting some combo reps, which is good. 258 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 5: Yes. 259 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: The fact that he's even on the field whenever the 260 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 4: offense is also on the field is a positive thing. Well, 261 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: tell me more about what you've seen from Diggs and 262 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 4: them kind of inching him back on the forth. 263 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, let's note that Diggs looked frustrated 264 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: when he was pulled after a couple of first team 265 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 3: reps for Naseean Right to be inserted in, because Diggs 266 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: wanted to keep going. That's a fantastic sign. That tells 267 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: you that your first team All Pro cornerback feels great, 268 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 3: wants as many reps as possible. But it also shows 269 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 3: you that the Cowboys and the training staff, Jim Ilbert 270 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: Brown and the coaching staff, they're not going to rush 271 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs back onto the field now. As far as 272 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: his movements, he needs to get some rust off, But 273 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: as far as being looking comfortable, looks very cofort the boat. 274 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: There were a couple of plays that he closed in 275 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: very well. Showed his quickness that on closing that made 276 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: him such a value to the Cowboys and a franchise cornerback. 277 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 3: So still being eased in, but mentally it looks like 278 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: he's there because he wants to numb, numb, numb. All 279 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: the reps, coaching staff is like, not await so fast. 280 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: Well he got he got. 281 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: Pulled out of practice because he looked almost too good. 282 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: You really think about when we're doing the training camp live. 283 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 3: He was doing such a good job of staying in 284 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: the hip pocket of different receivers. And then when David 285 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 3: Derden walked up to the line of scrimmage, he went 286 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: up there and went to go put some Honda hands 287 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: on him a little bit and then got turned around 288 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 3: a little bit, but he closed the gap and was 289 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 3: able to get a PBu and pass break up. And 290 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 3: then after that they were like, all right, that was 291 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 3: a little bit too close to contact. Come down. You 292 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: could tell he started getting more confidence as practice went on. 293 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 3: In the first couple of plays, he kind of just 294 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 3: wanted to make sure his feet underneath him, his eyes 295 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 3: were in the right place. But then as he started 296 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: gaining more confidence in his abilities to get in and 297 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: out of breaks, then he started really pushing the issue. 298 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: And as soon as he did that made a good play, 299 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: they're like, all right, that's enough for today. 300 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 4: And he wasn't finishing at that level too, Like he 301 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 4: wasn't finishing the rep. He was kind of taking his 302 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 4: foot off the gas a little bit coasting to the 303 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: finish line. 304 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: And then the other two guys you mentioned, Tyler Geyiton, 305 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 2: Luke Schoomaker, Josh. When you look at those two guys, 306 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: I mean they're both young. 307 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 4: Both high value draft picks. Schoomaker second round last year, 308 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 4: Geiden of course first round this year. Of course, who 309 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 4: needs those reps more right now? The ones that they're 310 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 4: missing currently, whether it's for the illness for Guiding or 311 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 4: the injury for schoon Man, one. 312 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 5: Hundred percent for Guiden. But I'm actually not concerned about 313 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 5: it at all. Like after practice, I saw him jogging 314 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 5: out on the field and it doesn't seem I mean, 315 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 5: I don't want to speculate, but it doesn't seem like 316 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 5: there's any actual concern there. It is genuinely an illness 317 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 5: that he will come back from and be taking those reps. 318 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 5: But to go back to Trayvon really really quick, I 319 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 5: still kind of have PTSD from Terrence Steel's injury last year, 320 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 5: and I still have PTSD from you know, even Gallops 321 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 5: injury and rushing him back maybe a little bit too soon, 322 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 5: or you know, letting the player decide, like all right, 323 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 5: I'm ready to get in. I like what they're doing 324 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 5: with Trayvon kind of inching him back into the into practice. 325 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 5: And you also want to give these cornerbacks a chance, 326 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 5: the young cornerbacks a chance to get these reps against 327 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 5: first team all pros. And if you think about it, 328 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 5: I mean, you're gonna have Mark Cooper week one. That's 329 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 5: obviously a you don't want to mess up against a 330 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 5: Mary Cooper. You want to have Treyvon Digs in there. However, 331 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 5: I don't think you see another wide receiver corps intact 332 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 5: until Week six with Detroit. That's where I would like 333 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 5: to see like full Trayvon in there at every snap. 334 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 5: That's kind of I didn't want to go backwards too much, 335 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 5: but that's kind of how I feel about Treyvon Digs. 336 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: You've now created an entirely new nightmare in my head 337 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: of Week one against a Mariy Cooper because. 338 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 5: What could youss terrifying? 339 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 4: Could you imagine the Cowboys fans in the way that 340 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 4: they would take that game me included with a mari Cooper, 341 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 4: if he goes for two forty and two touchdowns or 342 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: like at least even one, something like he goes for 343 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: one to twenty seven and two scores. 344 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: I would, I don't want to. 345 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: So I really okay, I don't as great as Mark 346 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: Cooper is. I mean you're talking mega trun versus Brandon 347 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: Card type numbers like let's let's not see that. 348 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 349 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: That would, but do it? 350 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: If Trayvon Diggs isn't one hundred percent, do you feel 351 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 4: confident that they could hold. 352 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: Amari Cooper to under one hundred and fifty yards. 353 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: I think they have the personnel to do it if 354 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: you If if for whatever reason, Trayvon Diggs is not 355 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: and when he when Kyle is saying less than one 356 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: hundred percent doesn't mean physically, he means as far as 357 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: the ramp up. 358 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 4: And getting back he's on the field, he's physically. 359 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 3: Then it just goes to adjustments. If you believe that 360 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: you're gonna put Trayvon Diggs on any type of snap 361 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: count in week one, then the question becomes, what are 362 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: you doing with darn Bland? Are you going to travel 363 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: him with Mary Cooper? Not necessarily something Mike McCarthy likes 364 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: to see done, but or something that Dan Quinn I 365 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: should say more specifically like to do. But maybe Mike 366 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: Zimmer would be more open to that if he sees 367 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: Amari Cooper is really starting to get off in the 368 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: first quarter, then there's no reason there's there's no reason 369 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: for him to say for him not to say, you 370 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: know what, Duran, let's move you over here, Let's put 371 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: Trayvon on wide receiver two, and let's kind of go 372 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: from there, still allowing Jordan Lewis to do his thing, 373 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: but also keep in mind Josh makes a good point 374 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: about the rookies, and I understand the PTSD. We want 375 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: to say the T stands for torn so post torn 376 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: a stress disorder. I like that, But when it comes 377 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: to some of these rookies, they've been the young guys. 378 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: They've been stepping up. Kayln Carson, Carson, I can't sing it. 379 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: Ap praises for a guy like Kayln Carson. He's come 380 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: in and really taken advantage of the opportunities with Trevon 381 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: Diggs sideline on the pup list and getting ramped up. 382 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: So you could see a situation where even Kayln Carson 383 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: gets thrown right into the fire. Because one thing about 384 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: this Cowboys team is because they know how much youth 385 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: they have to deal with, they're not afraid to throw 386 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: a young guy out there and say show me what 387 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: you got. 388 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: Well, look at the guys that are the veterans of 389 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: the group now. 390 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 4: Trayvon Diggs thrown out there very quickly as a second 391 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 4: round pick, Dron Blam thrown out there very quickly, mostly 392 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 4: out of need, as a fifth round pick. 393 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: Both of those guys stepped up in big, big areas as. 394 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 4: Young players in that d bat room, Kayln Carson has 395 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: an opportunity like that. 396 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: What have you seen from Carson so far? 397 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: He's a competitor. That's the one thing that I love 398 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 3: about it. I mean you, that's kind of an expectation 399 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: when you're playing in that cornerback position to kind of 400 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: kind of be your own self motivator and be a 401 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: guy that's in there yapping and being sticky, you know, 402 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: standing in the hip pocket. But he is spelling with confidence. 403 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 3: I Mean, this dude goes out there. He's not afraid 404 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: to walk up into the receiver's face, He's not afraid 405 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 3: to put hands on him. 406 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 2: He does. 407 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: He does a great job of getting out of his 408 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: cuts and his brakes. You gotta remember, as a defensive back, 409 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 3: you're always gonna be not always, but ninety percent of 410 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: the time, you're gonna be reacting to when the receiver breaks, 411 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 3: So receiver's gonna break first and then you respond. So 412 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: you have that closing speed. Your ability to get out 413 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 3: your break whenever you see somebody breaking down is very important. 414 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 3: And that's one thing that you see consistently with him 415 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 3: out here for these training camp reps is when guys 416 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: got out of their break, he is right on their 417 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: hip pocket. I mean he is putting a hand on here, 418 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: he's getting past breakups and he used to putting his 419 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: little seat belt on because that's what he does. He 420 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: loves it and I love the energy that comes for him. 421 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 3: So you you start talking about a healthy Trabon Diggs, 422 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: you got darn Bland, Jay LOUI or Mike He's forgetting 423 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: about Jay Lou. J Lou was an absolute dude last year. 424 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely no. He showed up in a major way, not 425 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: only in coverage, but especially if you go back and 426 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: watch the film, he showed up in a major way 427 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: in a run defense. Okay, as much as everybody talks 428 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: about how the run defense was not where they wanted 429 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 3: to be, well, he's one of the reasons that it 430 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: was even as good as it was because he was 431 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: willing to stick his head in there, and then you 432 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 3: ask him more depth with the with the. 433 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 6: Young Kalin Carson and hopefully Nayshaun Wright and Eric Scott, those. 434 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: Guys hopefully you know Eastcott from last year. If those 435 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: guys all show up, then all of a sudden you 436 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: have what was not your strong suit collectively now all 437 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: of a sudden might become one of the strongest aspects 438 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 3: of your team. 439 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 5: One of the biggest resignings of the offseason by far 440 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 5: as Jordan Lewis, and seeing him on the field now 441 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 5: it solidifies that point even more. He's going to grow 442 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 5: in this season, I feel like, especially with Mike Zimmers defense. 443 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 5: Uh And to answer your question, I mean with Luke Scoomaker, 444 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 5: I think the tight end. 445 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: Room is full. 446 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be surprised to see where the depth chart 447 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 5: and the cuts sort of play out for the tight 448 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 5: end room. But he needs those reps. 449 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: Yes, he does, state your four God all right, So 450 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: Jake the. 451 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 5: Snake, of course I liked. 452 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: Is that another one a big biscuits come up with 453 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: the seat belt nickname for Carson two is that. 454 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 5: No, that's the white forest thing. Okay, Jake the Snake, 455 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 5: Scoon Maker, John Stevens Junior, and Brevin span Ford san Ford. 456 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: I haven't seen much from him, but I've heard from 457 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: great things. Yeah, I just haven't with my own two Knights. 458 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 5: And hendershot is kind of on the bubble for me 459 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 5: at the moment. But I think you can't dismiss John 460 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 5: stevens run blocking ability. 461 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: And you see him lately. 462 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 5: Yes, last year to this year, I think it was 463 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 5: pounds of the story. 464 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 3: That cowboys dot com. Make sure you check that out. 465 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 5: How many pounds of muscle it has to be? 466 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 3: He said he's up. He was up six over pre 467 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: draft another six, so twelve total pounds of lean muscle. 468 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: He said he got with the nutrition staff made sure 469 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 3: that the mass he was adding was lean muscle because 470 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: he wanted to not only get better at inline blocking, 471 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: but he also wanted to get better as if he 472 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: necessarily needs it at contested catches and getting off of 473 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 3: the press. So he's he's looking to do some real 474 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 3: damag John Stevens. 475 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 5: I suppose it didn't come to me. I could have 476 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 5: helped him out, but that that's fine. 477 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 3: John Stevens last year as good of a camp as 478 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 3: he was having. He looked like a basketball player. Yeah, lanky, lanky, 479 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: look like somebody was like, you grab him off the 480 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: basketball courts, like you know what's done. You have talent 481 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 3: the football field. Put some cleats on this year. He 482 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: looks like a grown man. He looks like a grown man. 483 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 3: And I was watching the individual rouse yesterday. He was 484 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 3: getting in and out of his brakes. He still has 485 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: soft hands. It's just for him, it's just continue to 486 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 3: get those reps in practice. I think these joint practices 487 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 3: are going to be huge for him. Obviously, that's gonna 488 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: be his real his first real opportunity a getting some 489 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 3: some contact there in terms of a competitive nature against 490 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: another opponent outside of your team. And you know, you 491 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 3: want to see how he responds to that adversity, because 492 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: there's gonna be some ups, there's gonna be some downs. 493 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: But ultimately, how are you going to use this mass 494 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 3: Now you're no longer just a jump ball guy. Now 495 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: to your point, you gotta put your hand on the ground. 496 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 3: You gotta be able to go move some guys off 497 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. This run game has to be solid. 498 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: They've they've they've obviously changed up things on the offensive line, 499 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: you have a running back by committee. You don't have 500 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: just a dude back there anymore, so it doesn't matter 501 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: who's back there. I had an opportunity to speak with 502 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 3: Zach Martin and I talked to him about the fact 503 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 3: that a running back by committee is more of a 504 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 3: compliment to the offensive line than anything because of the 505 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: fact that it doesn't matter there's there. The organization is saying, 506 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter who we put in the backfield. You 507 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: guys are still gonna be successful because of what you 508 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: guys are doing up front. A couple of quick points 509 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 3: on the tight end depth chart as well. When it 510 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: comes to Brevin span Forward, it's it's kind of it's odd. 511 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: It's odd in that you see his demeanor off of 512 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: the field and you know, huge guy by the way, 513 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 3: but you know he has like this this aura of 514 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 3: light where it's just like he's smileyest funds like dron Bland, right, 515 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 3: But he's one of the brevin'span for and has been 516 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 3: one of the biggest individuals who has instigated potential scuffles. 517 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: It was him versus Kaitlin Cars and that wasn't his 518 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 3: first time. Isn't like Brock Hoffman line. Yeah, exactly, a 519 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 3: fan foreign. 520 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's brock Coffin, brock Hoffin, brock 521 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: Coffin looks for that opportunity. 522 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: But what I would also say is when we're talking 523 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: about the tight ends room, don't forget about Princeton Fan, 524 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 3: because if you're talking about John Stevens Junior and his 525 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: ability to improve upon his blocking, well, that's Princeton Fan's bag, right, 526 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 3: is blocking. And that's why Mike McCarthy, when we spoke 527 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 3: with Mike McCarthy on yesterday or the day before, uh, 528 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 3: he mentioned that when it comes to a guy like 529 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: Princeton Fan, his talent, his skill set doesn't really shine 530 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 3: until the pats and the helmets come on and you 531 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: do full padded practice. And that's because Princeton Fant is 532 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 3: primarily a blocker. So that's something that the Cowboys are 533 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: gonna want to have in their bag as well. Will 534 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: it force them to the unconventional five tight end carrying, 535 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: we don't know. But keeping my practice squad, you have 536 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: three elevations, so you have that ability, you have to 537 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: first first risk them to waivers. Princeton Fan. I'm a 538 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: fan of his as well because of the fact that 539 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: obviously you have one hundred lipkey that's your fullback from 540 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 3: last year that's returning, and there's a great opportunity for 541 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: him obviously to come back this year in that same capacity, 542 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: but Princeton Fan can fulfill that role as well and 543 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 3: seen him do that in training camp. But also when 544 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 3: you start talking about the special teams aspects, you're going 545 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: to need bigger bodies that can run and hit. There's 546 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: always a place for a big guy who who is strong, 547 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: who is fully willing to go out there and throw 548 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 3: his body around and be effective in it. 549 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 5: And we talked about that towards the end of last season. 550 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 5: We were talking about the new special team rules where 551 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 5: it's like you need those depth tight ends to be 552 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 5: able to help on the new kickoff rules. You those 553 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 5: are key roles now. 554 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 4: And Mike McCarthy's always said it, you can't have enough 555 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 4: guys that are six three, six four two twenty five 556 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 4: two thirty like on your football team because of that element, 557 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 4: because of special teams, because they can play fullback, they 558 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 4: can play tight end, they can play linebacker. 559 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: I mean, think of that, how that size was that? 560 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 561 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 4: There, Isaiah played like fifteen positions on the football field 562 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: throughout his career because he fit that mold. 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Yeah, 622 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 4: exactly what you think, Isaiah. Did you get your oats in? 623 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: Did not get my oats in? 624 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: Call? 625 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: I love my oats. As we all well know is 626 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: it's just not currently in this current diet plan for 627 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 3: me right now. But for those out there that have 628 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 3: not had your oats, get your dog on old. It's 629 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 3: a nice slow release, you know what I'm saying. 630 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: Slow release. 631 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: You get your get your get your. 632 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 6: Protein in there, but you also get your carbs and 633 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 6: it's gonna be just it's. 634 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 2: A good thing. You did get your workout in this morning. 635 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: I did do in some lunges six hundred yards. A 636 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 2: matter of fact, Kyle, did you get an invite? 637 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 3: I did not get an invote. 638 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: Did you get an no? 639 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: No? 640 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 5: Because he knows what to work out, he knows better 641 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 5: than to invite me to do to work out with Yes. 642 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 3: Let's go, Yes go tomorrow morning. 643 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: I worked out with you yesterday. 644 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 3: Kind of fell into that one. Yeah, I just walked 645 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: in happening. He doesn't want to get smer was out 646 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 3: here early this morning sending up shot and he saw 647 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 3: me out here here pumping in the sweating. 648 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 2: I went on the I went on the ox tour 649 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 2: this morning. I went on just a jog. I went 650 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 2: down to the high school and back about three and 651 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: a half miles. Crazy, big dude. 652 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 4: I My feet are killing me right now because you 653 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 4: because not only are you running on concrete, but then 654 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 4: you're out here all day you're running around. 655 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 3: Killing my back. I've been kind of reserving my my 656 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 3: workouts for the evening, kind of like the shut down. 657 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 3: You work out tonight and yeah, yeah, tonight. Actually I 658 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: told Josh that yesterday. No, no, no, I can't do 659 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: it right. There's something happening tonight. Can't work out. 660 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: No, we can't use the. 661 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: Gym until seven after seven. That's so tomorrow, Thursday, back 662 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 3: to back Wednesday. I made some room nice, all right. 663 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 3: You also didn't have to write this morning, all right. 664 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 4: Of course, final installs coming up this week, Mike McCarthy saying, 665 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 4: these last couple of practices are some of the toughest 666 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 4: practices that they'll have throughout. I think the final install 667 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 4: is today, right, pat final install, so that'll be completely done, 668 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 4: and then you get into review, review, renew that kind 669 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 4: of thing, and you go into uh, the joint practice 670 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 4: with your full playbook at hand at least at the moment, 671 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 4: so that's a good thing. Cowboys have a tough practice 672 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: on hand today. But he has said that even throughout 673 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: these final installs, there hasn't been an emphasis from the 674 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: coaching staff on the fifty three man roster. 675 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: So I have an exercise for you guys. I'm going 676 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: to cut it short at every position. I know a 677 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: this is not likely because you have to fill out 678 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: fifty three names. 679 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 4: Fifty three names are gonna be there, but every single position, 680 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 4: I'm going to cut it short, and you have to 681 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 4: make a decision on who gets in there because at 682 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 4: some point these positions will be cut short. 683 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: You mentioned tight end. 684 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 4: Four names for tight end, It's realistic it could be 685 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 4: three because they may take an extra offensive lineman, they 686 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 4: may take an extra running back. Hunter Lipke could be 687 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 4: technically classified in that tight end. Even though I know 688 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 4: he's a fullback, he can maybe be in that fold. 689 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 4: So I'll start with quarterback. There are three quarterbacks on 690 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 4: the roster. You got to pick two. 691 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: Where are you going with it? Josh Rodriguez, Dak Prescott, 692 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: and Cooper Rush. Okay, that this idea is as easy 693 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: as it's been in training camp. But tell me, I. 694 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 5: I just don't think yeah. I mean it's a kind 695 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 5: of a sensitive topic with fans out there. You spend 696 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 5: the fourth round pick on Trey Lance. I think at 697 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 5: this point, at this point in camp on August sixth, 698 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 5: you haven't seen enough from Trey Lance to determine whether 699 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 5: or not he needs to be, you know, the starter 700 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 5: of the future. You know, I think that's a big 701 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 5: loaded question for Trey Lance at this point. I'm sticking 702 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 5: with Dak Prescott and Cooper Rush. 703 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: Okay, it's August sixth, and as we have this conversation, 704 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: Cooper Rush is leagues beyond where Trey Lance needs to get. 705 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 3: So for me, it is Dak Prescott and is Scooper Rush. 706 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 3: Is this to say that, uh, there's not time for 707 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 3: Trey Lance to develop between now and roster cutdowns. Of 708 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 3: course there is. There's three preseason games that still need 709 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: to be played. He's going to get a ton of 710 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: those reps. But as we have this conversation Cooper Rush, 711 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: he's been the cool hand loop the whole time. He's 712 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 3: been unbothered, unfettered, and he looks as comfortable as he 713 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 3: needs to. I mean, he's a guy who came in 714 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: and was four and one in the absence of Dak 715 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 3: Prescott still looks great in camp. Trey Lance really needs 716 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: to put the pedal to the floor. Agreed, And I 717 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 3: you know again, I believe that Trey Lance will have 718 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: a great opportunity and obviously in these three preseason games 719 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: to show where he's capable of the difference right now 720 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: is Cooper Russia's is fully confident in his capabilities to 721 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 3: compete at this level. Trey Lance is not. And that's 722 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 3: no indictment on him. Is just the fact that he 723 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: just has not had that experience yet. And right now 724 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 3: he's still hesitating, He's not anticipating, he is not fully 725 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 3: confident in his ability to be able to deliver the ball, 726 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: see trust what he's seeing, all those things. It's just 727 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: a little bit of hesitation and at this level of competition, 728 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: you can't have that. Now again to you guys, you 729 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 3: guys made a very you know, you guys emphasize at 730 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 3: this particular date because those three preseason games, the whole 731 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: world would change around. And understand, when you're a professional athlete, 732 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 3: confidence is absolutely everything. And you can see that change 733 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: literally in one single drive where you see a whole 734 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 3: new version of Trey Lance that we have not seen 735 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: to date. I'm hoping that that's the case for him, 736 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: but as of right now, it's Dak and Cooper. 737 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: There are a lot of people hoping for that. 738 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 3: By the way, I'll add one quick thing when it 739 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: comes to Trey Lance versus Cooper Rush. Keep in mind, 740 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 3: and I've reported this often, and I love the fact 741 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: that Jalen Brooks said it yesterday as well. Brandon Cook 742 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 3: spoke on it. Mike Zimmer's defense is disguising itself to 743 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 3: magnitudes that even Dak Prescott may not be accustomed to 744 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 3: at this point. And he's seen most of it all, 745 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: if not at all. So when you talk about Trey Lance, 746 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: add that to some of the reasons why he's struggling 747 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 3: so far in camp, because whereas Cooper Rush has seen 748 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: most of it and Dak Prescott has nearly seen it all, 749 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 3: Trey Lance can't necessarily argue that, and Mike Zimmer has 750 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: him more or less confused at the moment. I want 751 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 3: to put this out there before the season is gone. 752 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 3: I was not an av well, I want to say 753 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: it was an advocate. I didn't believe there was a 754 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: high probability that Dak was going to get a new contract. Now, 755 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: with what I've seen in training camp from coach Zimmer, 756 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 3: I think that changes. And the reason why is because 757 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that you've seen the best version of 758 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott yet from the stand that you don't watch 759 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: a lot of film, yep. And I've always said that 760 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 3: Dak struggles with a lot of disguises and it gets 761 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 3: him in trouble. And that's that was really the achilles 762 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: heel of him as as. 763 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: We're talking about it on this show qu a little bit. 764 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: The things that he is seeing in practice every single 765 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 3: day is addressing and continually working on his achilles heel. 766 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 3: So if he's getting that work on what he quote 767 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: unquote lacks at in practice every day, what are you 768 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: going to see from him when he steps on the 769 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 3: field against other opponents. Mike Zimmer might be more of 770 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 3: a of a pickup for Dak Prescott more than it might. 771 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 2: I like it, I really do, and I've said that before. 772 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 4: This defense, in this scheme does not only benefit the 773 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 4: defensive backs and the way that they are able to 774 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 4: disguise and able to move around, and it helps the 775 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 4: pressure up front. It helps Dak Prescott and what he's 776 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 4: seeing and what he's able to read, and if he's 777 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 4: looking good out here, which he has, I think you 778 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 4: could argue he's probably a top five players. 779 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: Camp so far, maybe top three. Just throw on point. 780 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 4: If he can continue that against the defense like this 781 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 4: in the games, it might be a whole different story. 782 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 2: That touched a different story? Was it to wort yesterday? 783 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 4: That was incredible? All right, I'm gonna switch that. I'm 784 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 4: gonna go back and forth offense and defense. Let's go linebackers. 785 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 4: The linebackers have been fun to watch. You think I'm 786 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 4: gonna give you here, I'm giving you four. I'm making 787 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 4: it really hard. Give me four linebackers, dog, I am 788 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 4: a mom. Okay, four linebackers, man. 789 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: I need a second. Okay, I'm gonna go Eric Kendricks, 790 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 3: Damon and Clark to Marve over shown. 791 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 2: And Mike doesn't count. I know he'll play both. 792 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 3: I like what I'm saying from some of the younger guys, 793 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 3: Buddy Johnson, undrafted guy like Jason Johnson. But Willie Harvey 794 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 3: Junior is out here showing his backside a right. So yeah, 795 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 3: let me tell you Willie Harvey Jr. Not in this order, obviously, 796 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 3: Willy Harvey, Junior, Eric Kendricks, the Moon Clark and mar 797 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 3: over show in his. 798 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 5: Mouthful, I'm gonna go Eric Hendricks of course, uh, Marvin 799 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 5: Overshon of course, the moon Clark, of course, and then 800 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 5: Mary's lulfoul. 801 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 3: Okay, that's mine, rookie. 802 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, you can't. You're you're done. 803 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: Who'd you say? 804 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: You say dance? 805 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: It was no, I will said Willie, Okay, will. I 806 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 3: can't know if it was five. They have to because 807 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: I can't take the rookie third round pick out of 808 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 3: the equation. Even though I love what Willie Harvey is doing. 809 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: It's a rookie third round pick. If you had five five, 810 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 3: then it's hardly Marris. Would it be Willy hard Willy. 811 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 2: Harvey and Merrison would be different. 812 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 8: I like you. 813 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 3: I love what Willie Harvey is doing, but in terms 814 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 3: of what the rotation has been, it has been Damian Wilson. 815 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 4: Okay, So Damien's outside of it, and I'm doing a 816 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 4: story for the countdown to kickoff for and it's on 817 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 4: Eric Ken. Eric Kendricks has more tackles, tackles for loss, 818 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 4: and sacks than the entire rest of the linebacking coret 819 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 4: combined and we got a young and Damian Wilson is 820 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 4: the only one that it's even remotely close, because Damian 821 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 4: Wilson's played nine seasons in the NFL before, so he's 822 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 4: been around. 823 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: Kendrick looks fantastic out there. But so so we're clear, 824 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 3: I'm changing mind, Okay, har I haven't had breakfast yet. 825 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 3: I didn't have my oats yet, okay. So love with 826 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 3: lea file showing. Also he's getting some burn with the 827 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 3: first teamers. He gets he's getting comfortable, he's playing fast 828 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: now and as he learns the system. So absolutely it's 829 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 3: it's Kendricks, it's Damone Clark, it's over shown and it's 830 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 3: Leo and Harvey is five. If I can get five, 831 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 3: get me five. 832 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 5: Though, I want to emphasize something really quick about marys Lilulfoul. 833 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 5: The speed of maryslul Foul. He's getting from sideline to 834 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 5: sideline in blazing speed. 835 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 2: Uh. 836 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 5: He might be a new Turby Derby speeds, you know 837 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. 838 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: Like he's kind of on that level. 839 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, possibly, possibly not. 840 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 4: In talking with Eric Hendricks yesterday, he had very high 841 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 4: words on it, and he said that he fits perfectly 842 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 4: as a Mike Zimmer guy. He said he's a Mike 843 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 4: Zimmer prototype because he can rush, he can blitz, he 844 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 4: can read and react and then go. He can shoot 845 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 4: the A gap, B gap, whatever he can do. 846 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 2: I mean, it all adds into what Zimmer wants out 847 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 2: of line out of the linebackers. 848 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 3: Extremely cerebral, his football IQ is insanely hot, and I 849 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 3: love his energy. 850 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to. 851 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 5: I don't want to put too many expectations on this guy. 852 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 5: But doesn't he kind of look like build wise and 853 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 5: speed wise? Doesn't he look like Fred Warner a little bit? 854 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 3: Oh you went all the way to Fred. I was 855 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 3: going to stop the Shawn and. 856 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 4: That was Sean football, Like, yeah, football doesn't look like 857 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 4: Sean is more more style. 858 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the football. The speed, the speed is phenomenal. 859 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the speed is good. 860 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: So not quite there yet, not quite there yet. 861 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 5: And I don't want to put those expectations on him 862 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 5: or anything like that, but like, similar looks in my opinion. 863 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: Especially if he bulkes up and he grows into the 864 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: frame right, it could be completely. 865 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 3: I don't want to put too much pressure on the 866 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 3: young guy, but future Hall of Famer. 867 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to do that. 868 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 3: I don't want to do that. 869 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 2: That's not my but like just very good and his 870 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 2: rookie camp. 871 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 4: Absolutely all right, let's talk about let's go with three 872 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 4: running backs here, and I'm gonna put Hunter Lipkey in 873 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 4: the running back category. In the running back category, Hunter, like, 874 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 4: three tailbacks is all you get? 875 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 3: Oh you get his three? All you get is three? 876 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 5: I mean Zeke of course, Rico and Hunter Lipke. 877 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 2: Okay, same, it's same, okay, same. 878 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 5: I expected a more of a battle here at the 879 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 5: thing the thing is for me is. 880 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 3: That if we are putting Hunter lip Key in the 881 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 3: running back category, then you have to know he's going 882 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 3: to make the team. And as it stands on August sixth, 883 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 3: the battle for who gets the most carries at one 884 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 3: is between Rico and z we talked about at the 885 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 3: top of the show. News and notes. Duce Vaughan is 886 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 3: dealing with the hamstring injury. He's missed several practices, right 887 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 3: Royce Freeman. We don't know if he's going to miss 888 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 3: time with the growing injury. So just the battle of 889 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 3: attrition health wise is starting to happen before the first 890 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 3: preseason game even happened. So do you The question is, then, 891 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 3: do you think Snoop, Connor and or Maliite Davis overcomes 892 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 3: any of those three. I don't necessarily see that. 893 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 6: My three is hunterd lib Key, Rico and Freeman. 894 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 2: You just cut Zeke. 895 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 9: I have. 896 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 3: I have no doubt that that Zeke has the capabilities 897 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 3: of playing. But I don't. I don't sense the same passion. Okay, interesting, 898 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't sense the passion. Again, that's it. 899 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 6: That's subjective, obviously, that's just my opinion. 900 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: I just don't sense the I don't I don't get 901 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 3: the vibe that he's as passion it about the game 902 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 3: as he once was. Okay, that has nothing to do 903 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 3: with whether he can or cannot produce. I just don't 904 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 3: get that that sense. Did were you evaluating him on 905 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 3: the day he got hit in the special part? They 906 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 3: won't take your passion real That is where I'm at 907 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 3: with it. I think he's fully capable of going out 908 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 3: there and continue to produce, you know, and you know, 909 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 3: obviously in in a in a joint role with the 910 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 3: other with the other guys. But I don't know. We'll 911 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 3: see how it plays out there. The Freeman injury does 912 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 3: affect that in a major way. 913 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 2: I think more than likely you're gonna have four, guys, 914 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 2: You'll probably have you give us three because I'm trying 915 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 2: to make it hard on you, guys. 916 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 4: I'm trying to have conversations like this, and I give 917 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 4: credit to Isaiah for at least getting out there with it. 918 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 4: All right, defensive line, I'm giving you eight. This is 919 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 4: the last one we'll do, and then we got to 920 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 4: take our last break. 921 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 2: Eight. 922 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 5: So Rodriguez, oh man, he keeps starting me over again, 923 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 5: Marshall Nieland to Marcus Lawrence, Michael Parsons, Uh, I think 924 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 5: you can we can all agree on those three, MASI okay, 925 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 5: how many more do I have? 926 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 2: Three more? 927 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 5: Let's see? This is tough, man, This is really tough Johnson, 928 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 5: Darrel john Wow, Okay, Daryl Johnson, like, is that a 929 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 5: spicy take? 930 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 3: That's spicy? 931 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: That it's spicy, but I like he's had a good can. 932 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 5: Denzel Jackson, Oh, that's real spicy, And man, I really 933 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 5: can't get like that last one on the that last one. 934 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 3: Tyris Wheet, Okay, good special teams last year. Yeah, and 935 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 3: so it was Johnson as far as depth goes. Tyres 936 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 3: Whet eight total eight total, Micah Okay, Chauncey Mosa, Marshawn, Mazzie. 937 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 2: D Law Okay. 938 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 6: Then I'm at a Kwadea mohammet okay, and big Justin Rogers. 939 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 3: That I liked it because I predicted earlier this offseason 940 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,439 Speaker 3: that Justin Rodgers would make the team. So I'm going 941 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 3: Tank mazi Osa, Micah, Justin Rodgers, Chauncey Gholston, Marshawn neland 942 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 3: and I'm cheating because dex And gets to IPP exemption. 943 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 3: So all right, yeah, roster man, roster management. 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Welcome back into 1000 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 4: Talking Cowboys, presented by a Black Rifle Coffee Company, Isaiah 1001 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 4: stand Back, Patrick no, Cy Walker, Josh Rodriguez, I'm Kyle 1002 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 4: Yeoman's the crew is back together again. We'll be back 1003 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 4: on on Thursday, nine am Pacific eleven am Central Time 1004 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 4: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Cowboys streaming channels. 1005 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 4: If you are with us, we will not have Isaiah 1006 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 4: Standback that day because he will be on Good Morning 1007 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 4: Football Live on the NFL Network. Good thing is that 1008 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 4: comes on before Talking Cowboys, so you can. 1009 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 2: Watch Isaiah and then watch Talking Cowboys. We'll have a 1010 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 2: complete review of Isaiah's performing. 1011 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 3: We're gonna break it down like film. 1012 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 5: Dude. 1013 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 2: No, we're gonna wake up. 1014 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,240 Speaker 3: I'll be I'm gonna go to the telestrator and everything. 1015 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris is already shipping the telestrader out here. 1016 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 3: We won't have it in the back be conference calling. 1017 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 3: Jerry Medalon. 1018 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love that. 1019 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 4: Actually, that would be hilarious. I'm gonna see if I 1020 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 4: can we can make that happen. We've got calls here, right, 1021 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 4: I mean, storyline still, you know we've got calls out here. 1022 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna text right now on Thursday. 1023 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 3: He's here, I think, dude, that's we get him sitting 1024 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 3: right here. 1025 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 4: I think we're gonna Jerry Madelone. We're gonna have Jerry Madalon, 1026 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 4: our talent coach. By the way, for those who might 1027 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 4: not know, he's a big mentor of Isaiah's. I want 1028 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 4: him to come on, and I want him to give 1029 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 4: an honest review of Isaiah's performance. 1030 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 2: Plaster talent coach to the stars. 1031 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 4: All right, Jerry, I just wait, you're gonna be on 1032 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 4: Talking Cowboys Thursday. 1033 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 2: All right. 1034 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 4: Top three position groups that have impressed you so far 1035 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 4: in training camp. We gotta be quick and get out 1036 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 4: of here. I'll start with you, Isaiah. Top three position groups. 1037 00:46:53,680 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 4: Corner okay, Defensive line, are you throwing AD, J and 1038 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 4: D tackle in there or more than like? 1039 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 2: Okay? 1040 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 3: And then I think the receiver group has showed up. 1041 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 3: I think the receiver group has showed up. Tyron Billy 1042 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 3: Johnson has done a really good job. He's shown up, 1043 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 3: Cropper has shown up, Brooks has continuing to show up. 1044 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 3: I'm not sure how to pan out. I want to 1045 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 3: see the morph turp. 1046 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I like it. 1047 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 3: I'm going to wide receiver group, not in any particular order, 1048 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 3: by the way wide receiver group, talk about Tyron Billy Johnson, 1049 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,879 Speaker 3: Jaylen Cropper, Jalen Brooks, Jayalen Tobert taking advantage of CD 1050 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 3: Lamb working through his contract. Cornerbacks in the absence of 1051 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs. Trayvon obviously back now, but Kaitlyn Carson taking 1052 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 3: those strategy and which is still out there being an 1053 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 3: absolute gamer Deron Bland. But I cannot say enough about 1054 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 3: this linebacker linebackers. Linebackers, linebackers they are. They went from 1055 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 3: being completely deficient absent DeMont Clark as far as true 1056 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 3: linebackers to just spilling over the brim of the cup 1057 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 3: with the running over a disciplined linebackers are. They're playing quick, 1058 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 3: they're playing fast, they're playing instinctual. And when you talk 1059 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 3: about run defense, they have been sensational and stopping the 1060 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 3: run and feeling those lanes and feeling those gaps and 1061 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 3: uh so, yeah, for me, linebackers is it's just they're 1062 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 3: showing up. 1063 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 2: I gotta go. 1064 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 5: Offensive line is particularly the center position. Uh there's a 1065 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 5: kind of a battle there that we've talked about a 1066 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 5: couple of times with brock Hoffman and Cooper beb and 1067 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 5: uh determining what that actually looks like. 1068 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 3: There you Uh, that's what. 1069 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 2: Do you think? 1070 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 5: When's that week one? It's brock Hoffman Kaufman. Uh, it's 1071 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 5: and it's a surprise to everybody that hasn't been watching 1072 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 5: training camp basically. 1073 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 11: Uh. 1074 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 5: And then I also have to go linebackers. Of course, 1075 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 5: we talked about it, like I said, the speed of 1076 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 5: Mary's Lui Fou is just incredible. And then also I 1077 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 5: have to give a shout out to the wide receiving corps. 1078 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 5: Again we talked about it. But the biggest surprise for 1079 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 5: me is Tyron Billy Johnson. To you know, he was 1080 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 5: undrafted in twenty nineteen. He has been with let me 1081 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 5: just say this real quick, the Texans, the Bills, the Texans, 1082 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 5: the Chargers, the Panthers, the Jags, the Raiders, the Texans, 1083 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 5: the Bengals, and the Niners. He is playing here like 1084 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 5: he's going to stay. I am really looking forward to 1085 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 5: seeing the rest of his camp and seeing him in 1086 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 5: the preseason games because that's when it actually counts, that's 1087 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,479 Speaker 5: when it matters, and that's how you make the team, 1088 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 5: especially when you're a guy like Tyron Billy Johnson really 1089 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 5: showing out and he's had I feel like he's had 1090 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 5: inconsistent days where he shines, but when he does shine, 1091 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 5: he shines bright. 1092 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 2: I agree completely. 1093 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 4: I think if anybody's stock has risen the most throughout 1094 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 4: training camp, it's Tyron Billy Johnson. He was a guy 1095 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 4: who was maybe a fringe roster player, not even roster player, 1096 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 4: fringe practice squad player at some point, probably right around 1097 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,439 Speaker 4: that eighty mark on the ross. And now he's taking 1098 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 4: snaps with the ones. He's going out there and I 1099 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 4: know CD's not here. I know they're holding Brandon. 1100 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 3: Cooks out there still, but it's still He's still. 1101 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,359 Speaker 4: In there with Jalen Tolbert, Cavante Turpin, and it's Tyron 1102 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 4: Billy Johnson. 1103 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 2: That is a huge, huge jump in a short amount 1104 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 2: of time. And he's earned the respective guys like My 1105 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 2: McCarthy as a play caller. 1106 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 4: He's earned the respective of Schottenheimer as the offense coordinator, 1107 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,439 Speaker 4: and he's certainly earned a respect And he talked about 1108 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 4: it on the stage. Dak Prescott has seen what Tyron 1109 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 4: Billy Johnson is doing. 1110 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 2: That that's great. 1111 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 3: And I'll say this because this also speaks to Tyrant 1112 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 3: Billy Johnson's mindset. I had an off the cuff conversation 1113 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,359 Speaker 3: with him a few days ago, and this is one 1114 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 3: of the several fantastic quotes that stuck out. 1115 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 2: Quote. 1116 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 3: I want to reintroduce myself and earn the coaches trust, 1117 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 3: and that's the biggest thing for me. I don't want 1118 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 3: to be a superstar practice guy. I want to do 1119 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 3: it on Sundays. 1120 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go. 1121 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 3: I love that t billy Billy white shoes. If you 1122 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 3: will shout out to Big. 1123 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 2: Nate billy white shoes. That is that a nickname? 1124 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 3: That's big Big Nate gave him that nickname. I that yeah, 1125 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 3: that one, that one has finesse thing billy white shoes. 1126 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 4: All right, that does it for us here on Talking Cowboys. 1127 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 4: Hope you had some fun with us here over the 1128 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 4: last fifty minutes. 1129 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 2: So we will be back on Thursday again. 1130 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 4: Tune in Isaiah standing Back, Good Morning Football that morning, 1131 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 4: and then tune in to us that day as well 1132 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 4: for Isaiah stand Back, Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Chris 1133 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 4: Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long 1134 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 4: from Talking Cowboys. 1135 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 2: We'll see you on Thursday. 1136 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 1137 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club