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Speaker 1: On the Bedel Cast, the questions asked if movies have

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Speaker 1: start changing it with the beck Del cast. Hey, Jamie,

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Speaker 1: Hey Kitlin, ask me how much student debt I'm in?

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Speaker 1: How much student debt are you in? And how can

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Speaker 1: I honestly haven't checked in years because I obviously have

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Speaker 1: no intention of paying it. But I think I'm somewhere

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Speaker 1: around eighty or ninety thousand dollars in student loan debt

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Speaker 1: for the master's degree I got from Boston University in screenwriting,

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Speaker 1: which I would never mention. I can't believe this is

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Speaker 1: It's like borderline aggressive. I love it. Yeah, well, God

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Speaker 1: bless thank you, thank you. Um. Well, look today I've

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Speaker 1: been sent here, I'm pivoted hard and now I'm a

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Speaker 1: serious On Mike Yes and Me. Officer Jermaine Fowler though,

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Speaker 1: the world's most ethically confusing person. I am going to

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Speaker 1: I was like, that does sound kind of sex hot,

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Speaker 1: there's been so much talk around I mean student that's

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Speaker 1: specifically recently because of the like ongoing failure to actually

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Speaker 1: former guests in the show. Julia Claire, one of the

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Speaker 1: people closest to my heart. She had She had a

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Speaker 1: viral tweet recently, m yeah, where she said, watching banks

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Speaker 1: get bailed out for the second time in my adult

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Speaker 1: life while also paring to watch the Supreme Court tell

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Speaker 1: us that canceling a paltry ten k and student loan

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Speaker 1: debt per borrower is government overreach. And then there's a

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Speaker 1: picture of Scarlett Johanson and marriage story crying. It's a

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Speaker 1: banger of a tweet, and I just wanted to shout

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about that tweet this whole damn movie.

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Speaker 1: Love it well well, Shelley. Oh wait, we should say

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Speaker 1: what the show is. We should say what the show is.

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Speaker 1: This is Hello, it's us, this is the Bechtel cast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Caitlin Dronte, and I have a voice

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Speaker 1: that sounds like this today. My name's Jamie Loftus, and

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Speaker 1: I have a voice that sounds like this today. Not

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Speaker 1: to brag. And this is the Bechtel Cast, our podcast

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Speaker 1: where we take a look at your favorite movies with

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Speaker 1: an intersectional feminist lens. Today, we have a movie that

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Speaker 1: came out in twenty nineteen called Buffaload. And you're never

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Speaker 1: gonna believe where this movie takes place. It is directed

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Speaker 1: by Tanya Wexler, written by Brian Socca. And this movie

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Speaker 1: is brought to us by a returning guest. That's so true.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to say what the Bechtel test is.

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Speaker 1: Not to say breeze right path. It's women's, honestly and women's.

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Speaker 1: It's Women's History month, and I feel like we don't

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Speaker 1: have to this month. We don't figure it out to

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Speaker 1: look it up table flip. My voice sounds like this

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Speaker 1: because I've just been screaming at men all months. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been using my voice. I've just been stealing.

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Speaker 1: Perfect next year, just steal and burn things. Yes, save

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Speaker 1: your voice, babe. Yes, we should be silent more than ever.

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Speaker 1: No more than ever just burned down their house like

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Speaker 1: banshees a ved sheering style. Okay, okay, that's my favorite

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Speaker 1: I are not to be pro men, but that movie rips.

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Speaker 1: I loved that damn movie. I was laughing. I was crying.

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Speaker 1: Jenny the Donkey, Are you kidding? Feminist icon Jenny the Donkey.

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Speaker 1: Everyone in that movie rocks. Colin Farrell being like mister

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Speaker 1: work on Architectural Digest, Vogue, Autostraddle, and you know her

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Speaker 1: from our episode on Empire Records. It's Shelley Nicole aka

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Speaker 1: the Return of Shreky Shrecky Too. I was like, are

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Speaker 1: pay down my student debt was because, like you know,

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00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: I didn't go to the school I wanted to go to.

424
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: I went to the school that offered the most money.

425
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, like because of the

426
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: way that like we fucked up the loans that we

427
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: chose and so I had to start paying it back

428
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: right away and worked full time through college because they

429
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: were like, well, you signed one thing one time, so sorry,

430
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: like go fuck yourself, like get a job, time to

431
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: start cool thing. Yeah, yeah, you're a freshman in college.

432
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: But anyway, you want us money already? Yeah, figure it out, bitch.

433
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: And it just like it drives me nuts because it's like,

434
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I don't know the way people talk

435
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: about it, even people our age sometimes where it's like, yeah,

436
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm like proud that I was able to make that

437
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: impossible situation work, but like I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

438
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: And there's that's that's the other generational thing where people

439
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: are like, well, I had to do it, so you

440
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: should have to. And it's like, no, I shouldn't want

441
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: to do that. I don't want anyone to have to

442
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: do I don't want anyone to have to do this,

443
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: so I don't want Yeah, it's fucking terrible. It's terrible,

444
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: and there's so much to talk about, but I'll wait.

445
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: We're only ten minutes into the movie. But anyways, I

446
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 1: thought that scene was really well done. Yeah, I agree.

447
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: And then what happens next is she gets arrested for

448
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: selling the counterfeit tickets. She goes to court where her

449
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: lawyer gets in a fight with the judge while the

450
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: prosecuting attorney, Graham played by Jermaine Fowler, just like watches

451
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: this unfold, and then Peg is thrown in jail and

452
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: starts hustling in jail selling go Gurt. I love it.

453
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: She really can't be stopped. She cannot be stopped. And

454
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that. I'll get into it later. But

455
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: her hustle mentality is what makes me made me fall

456
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: in love because it's me. It's me. I'm like, oh,

457
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm in this situation. Cool, So I'm going to figure

458
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: this out. This it's just always in me, and I

459
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: get it from my mom, like it's insane. I'm excited. Yeah,

460
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: because there are so many Wolf of Wall Street parallels

461
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: here where she just I do respect a character that's

462
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: like I refuse to improve. Okay, cool, I'm going to

463
00:27:54,240 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: meet you where you are. Yeah, understood. One's proceeds. She's

464
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: selling Gogert in prison because she's still fifty thousand dollars

465
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: in debt from all of her legal fees. Also, debt

466
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: collectors are still after her mom, so she's just trying

467
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: to alleviate this debt. After around three years in prison,

468
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: she gets out PEG's brother, JJ, now played by Noah Reid,

469
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: who I think a lot of people would recognize from

470
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: Shit's Creek gives her a job at the bar that

471
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: he bought, where Peg runs into Graham, that prosecutor or

472
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: more like prosecute because he's trying to flirt with her.

473
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: I love Jermaine Fowlers so much. He's like saying the greatest.

474
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: His character is so confusing to me. He's just all

475
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: over the place. It's not his fault, I don't Understand's

476
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: the one thing that I did not dig because when

477
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: were I'm like trying to scam a system just a

478
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: little bit, and you're just like not going to go

479
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: to dinner with me? What? Well, it's like his whole day.

480
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: I just look like he is so like weirdly inconsistent,

481
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: where it seemed like in every scene he discovered she

482
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: was a debt collector, and I was like, you know this,

483
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: like I just saw you learn this in the last scene,

484
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: But up until like the end of the second act,

485
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: he's like you do what. I was like, like, you

486
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: know this man? She keeps telling you. Yeah, confusing, but

487
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: it's Deny. I think he recognizes her as the person

488
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: that he like put away, like put in jail three

489
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: years earlier. Yeah, but he's like, oh, let me buy

490
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: you dinner and she's like, um, you put me in

491
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: jail by I don't want to hang out with you.

492
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to get wings with you, mister Powler.

493
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this with you. And it's

494
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: not like I don't believe that, you know, people who

495
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: work for the DA's office can get away with all

496
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: sorts of shit, like I'm sure that's true. But I

497
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: was just like, is you know what? How is this allowed?

498
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: They're like, I'm clear, I don't know. It's so confusing,

499
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 1: but you know, I love I love to see your

500
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: maid Fowler. I was like, cool. I thought they had

501
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: like fun chemistry too, but the relationship was like I

502
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: just don't understand. And then at the very end, he

503
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: was like, well, guess what peg my grandfather like was it?

504
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: Which is like pulling from real life, you know, things

505
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: that happened in real life and are very tragic. He says,

506
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: like my grandfather was completely fucked over by debt collection

507
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: and then was on house and then passed away before

508
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: it was resolved. But I was like, but why are

509
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: you bringing this up now now? Like you could have

510
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: told me that so many times. Yeah, but now when

511
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: things are wrapping up like it sounds like her job

512
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: is a deal breaker for you. Why do you keep

513
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: showing up. He's also actively investigating the company that she works. Yeah,

514
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: it's a won't work out. This is not for us,

515
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: and he acknowledges that. He's like, this is going to

516
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: be a conflict of interest. But they still have sex

517
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: so many times. Maybe the realism is that the DA's

518
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: office is unethical and incompetent. Sure, but I was confused

519
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: because it seems like we were supposed to be rooting

520
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: for him, and I was like, but he's doing such

521
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: a bad job. He's bad. And then and then at

522
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: the end, like I don't know, and she's like, I

523
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: think he my boyfriend. I was like, all right, whatever,

524
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: you guys are you guys deserve each other. What are

525
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: you talking about? Well, then Peg gets a call from

526
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: a debt collector the screenwriter of the movie too he

527
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: plays sound Oh that's him. Oh gay? Yeah okay. So

528
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: after talking to him for a little bit and realizing

529
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: that he works in Buffalo, she realizes she can get

530
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: a job as a debt collector. Because another thing that

531
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: is examined in this movie is that because now she

532
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: like had served time, I'm in prison. She's very limited

533
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: in the jobs that she can apply for it and get.

534
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: But she's like, well, debt collecting is something I can

535
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: still do. She is like, this woman is a fucking bull.

536
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: Like if you tell her to know and then she's like,

537
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm good, She's like, I'll do something fucked up. I

538
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: don't care like i'd like. So she gets a job

539
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: working for this guy named whiz Ji Courtney of I

540
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: Frankenstein Fame. Okay, we were talking about this before the

541
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: banging down the zoom door. Um, yeah, Ji Courtney. Let's

542
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: talk about Ji Courtney really quick, because here's the thing

543
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: about Jike Courtney. He was in I Frankenstein and we

544
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: hear at the Battle Castle Love I Frankenstein Ji Courtney

545
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: and I Frankenstein. He plays. Look, the man's got range.

546
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: First of all, he's Australian. Oh, you wouldn't know it.

547
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: In this one. He's secretly asked you do kind of

548
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: you can kind of tell and I Frankenstein. But that's

549
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: growth and we appreciate that from Dry Courtney because Sam

550
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: Worthington is in some of the most highest grossing movies

551
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: in the world and he still can't hide the fact

552
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: that he's Australian. What was that? What was that like

553
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: line from Avatar where he's like he's like playing a

554
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: US marine and he's like when you hit wool, You're like,

555
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: oh my god. Come on. Nobody thought to be like,

556
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: let's try that again. Can we get another take? Anyway? Yeah?

557
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: One more Sam, Sam, You're supposed to be from Michigan.

558
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: James Cameron was just too focused on something else on

559
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: set that day. This is and I we don't like

560
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: this word and the way that it's used in this context.

561
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: But the best example of that in Avatar is when

562
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 1: Sam Worthington's like at battle it's insane and you're like,

563
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: oh my god. Any Jai Courtney doesn't have that problem.

564
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: He plays mister Good and I Frankenstein. He plays an

565
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: angelic Gargoyle farrior who dies for Gargoyle recasts. Yeah. Yes,

566
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: And this one, he's Patriarchy, the guy one of our

567
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 1: favorite trophs, mister Patriarchy, and he's really making a meal

568
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: of it. He's just like growling. The dire movie. I

569
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: didn't love. The character was baffling to me, but I

570
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: loved the Jai Courtney performance. He was really he was

571
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: really going for it, mister patriarchy. Yeah, yeah, he was

572
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: giving it a one hundred and ten percent and speaking

573
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: of numbers, yeah yeah, that was good. That was good.

574
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: Thank you amazing. I have a master's degree. I would

575
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: never mention it. We learned how debt collecting works once

576
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: she gets this job working for Wiz, where bank sell

577
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: debt to like debt agents or debt brokers. I don't

578
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: know what you'd call them, but they're selling. They're selling

579
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: people's debt for pennies on the dollar pennies. Right. Then,

580
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: debt collectors try to bargain with the debtors to settle

581
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: their debt, knowing that they can kind of negotiate because

582
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: their debt is actually worth far less now that they've

583
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: like bought it for pennies on the dollar. But they're like, oh, like,

584
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: we'll bring your fifty thousand dollars debt down to ten

585
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Little does the debt or note that settling

586
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: their debt for ten thousand dollars is now profitable for

587
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: the debt collectors, and all of this is barely regulated

588
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: by the government. Right so Peg makes a deal with

589
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: Whiz that if she can become the top collector at

590
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: this agency. In one month, he will erase her debt

591
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: and she does it. She again has a knack for hustling.

592
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: She has a knack for debt collecting. Yeah, it's a

593
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: it's a hell of a montage, it is. It's just

594
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: a lot of like the Zoe Deutsch reactions and writing

595
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: on a chalk board or or white board. Right, She's

596
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: just so Another reason why I kind of love her,

597
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: especially in these montages of this is this montage of

598
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: this part. It shows how slovenly she is, Like, she's

599
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: just not she doesn't care. Her goal in this movie

600
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: is not to like she's not trying to be this

601
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: pretty girl. She's in fact, when she tries to be

602
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: this girl that's like classic feminine, it goes bad for her.

603
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: But I love how whenever she's at the board she's

604
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: like eating, she's wearing baggy clothes. She's just her goal

605
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: is to make money and get her debt erase, and

606
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: I love that. In this montage it's just so dope.

607
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm gonna make money and I'm gonna look

608
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: like shit while I do I do, I like I

609
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: did you. I had that same note Shelley where it

610
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: is like, oh heard cloth, like because we're told. I

611
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: feel like that happens in movies a lot that are

612
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: about like if you're talking about a person that not

613
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: even is like living below the poverty line, but it's

614
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: just like not upper middle class or above. Yeah, if

615
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: they're either like cartoonishly styled to be like slovenly and

616
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: filthy and gross, or they're like just wearing rich people

617
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: clothes in a way that makes no sense. And it's

618
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: like we see people in this movie wear the same

619
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: outfit twice. We see people have stains on their clothes

620
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: after eating messy food. Just like shit, that is so basic.

621
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: But when you see it happen, you're like, oh, that

622
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: never happens. It really never happens, especially the wearing the

623
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: clothes twice. I love when it happens in shows. I

624
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: love when it happens in movies, and this too. I

625
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: mean it's just like I don't know, a film student

626
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: trying to like reach a little bit, but I think

627
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: it just showed how much she doesn't care, Like she

628
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: just is trying. She has a goal. Her goal is

629
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: the money. Her goal is not femininity. It's not like

630
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 1: classiness or anything. Like that she's trying to pay her

631
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 1: debt and she's not spending money on other stuff. She's

632
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: not trying to do any of that, and it plays

633
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: back into how she is as a person, just like

634
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: the dudes doing all those fucking movies where they're trying

635
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: to like make it and oh god, this montage part

636
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: just really made me happy. Also, going back to the

637
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: explaining the debt, it was wild because I knew that shit.

638
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: And the only reason I knew that was because of

639
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: my mom. My mom, because when I messed up in

640
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: my twenties a little bit, you know, you get a

641
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: credit card the mail, You're like free money, Well, I

642
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: don't mind if I do. Hello, I'll take three if

643
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: you have it. But then like I have to eventually

644
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: tell my parents. It's like, hey, I am in a

645
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: little bit debt, and I'm nervous. I was calling crying

646
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: because these like debt people were calling me. I was

647
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: like twenty four and they were calling me and they

648
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: were telling me all this stuff, which was basically these

649
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: guys Saal and his crew essentially just calling me. And

650
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: then my mom would laugh at me. She would be like,

651
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: they offered you what, And I would be like, yeah,

652
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: and I paid it. She said, don't you ever to

653
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: call right now and cancel that payment plan, because no,

654
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: and just be like this is what I'm going to

655
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: give you, and I want to let her I want

656
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: And it works. It blew my mind. It worked, and

657
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: I just I just thought that that scene was dope. Yeah,

658
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: when she big short, it was great. It was great

659
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: that big short scene there. I knew some not all

660
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: of that, like some of the history of like how

661
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: debt can be sold and sold and sold I knew

662
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: much less about and it's good, Like this is like

663
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: a I don't know, I really appreciate what they're trying

664
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: to do because it's like, I don't know, like it's

665
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: fun to see this it in such a like goofy

666
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: format and in a way that isn't like tragedy porn

667
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: or bashing you over in the head like it's I

668
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: don't feels like a spoonful of sugar kind of like

669
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: approach to talking about this in a way that I

670
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: much prefer to, like watching people drowning. You're like, I

671
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: could just do that. I can look in the mirror

672
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: if my life like I don't need That's why I

673
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: love romps. It's true. I mean this is a romp. Yeah. Okay,

674
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: So she's discovering that she has a real knack for

675
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: debt collecting, but she also discovers some unsavory things they do,

676
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: such as exploiting elderly people like this woman, missus Cooney,

677
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: by collecting on debt that has already been settled multiple times.

678
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: So they're just like bleeding her drive for every penny

679
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: she's got because they're because she like didn't remember that

680
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: she had paid that debt. So they're exploiting situations like

681
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: that often, and Peg is fully dissipating. Yes at first. Yeah.

682
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: Then Peg runs into Graham the prosecutor again, who tells

683
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: her he's investigating Whiz and his team of collectors and

684
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: that Graham can't take her on a date if she's

685
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: working with these guys and being complicit in their horrible tactics.

686
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: And then this is sort of like a turning point

687
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: where she realizes how awful they are, so Peg decides

688
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: to strike out on her own and start her own

689
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: debt collecting business. I do think it's worth mentioning that

690
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: she like part of what I did like about PEG's character,

691
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: even though I was not rooting for her. The entire

692
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: movie honestly was that, Like, she is a very morally

693
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: ambiguous character for lots of sections, because it's not like

694
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: she realizes that like Whiz is unethical and then quits

695
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: the job. She knows he's unethical, and she's wholeheartedly participating.

696
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: It's when she does and get the cut up when

697
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: it affects her bottom line. That's when it's not when

698
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: it's fucking with other people, Like she knows it's fucking

699
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: with other people and doesn't care until she I think that,

700
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: Like she collected one hundred twenty five thousand dollars and

701
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: he would only give her two thousand, so she was like, well,

702
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm out of here and I'll like go find a

703
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: better deal somewhere else. So she is like at the

704
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: end of the day, she's like about her bottom line exactly,

705
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: which I also really dig too though, because I think

706
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: if I would not have loved this movie so much

707
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: if at that point, like when realized she was like

708
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: scamming this old lady, if she had had this moral

709
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: high ground and was like, oh, I'm not going to

710
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: do this anymore. I'm not going to participate in this

711
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: because that's not what happens to dudes in movies, Like

712
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: they very much so know when they're doing something wrong

713
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: and they do the same thing that she does. Peg

714
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: is like, I know that y'all are doing something wrong,

715
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: but now it affects me, so now I'm gonna go

716
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: do it because I want my money, Like this is

717
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: a out me. And I think if they had made

718
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: her into this like very holier than the character, it

719
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been very realistic. First of all, because it

720
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: doesn't take a lot. She's smart. She knows that it

721
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: doesn't take a lot for her to set up this business.

722
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: So I really I'm really glad that they just made

723
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: her go out on her own versus trying to be

724
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: a good person and sticking it out or something like. No, right,

725
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: she built it right because in the movie just would

726
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: have been over, it would have been also done. Yeah,

727
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: it warn my lesson, And like you said, like audiences

728
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: tend to permit a morally ambiguous character who is a

729
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: man far more than there's an expectation that women have

730
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: to be so well behaved and we can't do the

731
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: illegal thing. Yeah right, And it's like no, Peg was like, actually,

732
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: I can do illegal things, and I'm going to do

733
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: it really really well, and then I'm gonna get a

734
00:43:54,320 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: goold gun. So though at first, when she does strike

735
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: out on her own, she insists that her business is

736
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: going to be legitimate with no shady stuff like clean.

737
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: She's gonna, you know, everything's gonna be above board. So

738
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 1: she starts buying the debts from Whizzes supplier who's also

739
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: Whizzes brother. Also she has are There is a like

740
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: random like mister sweetey Pie brother that comes out to

741
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: the story at random points, so Judy Greer can be like,

742
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: I love you and don't be a bad influence on

743
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: your brother, which I also thought was cool. I mean,

744
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: this movie is doing a lot of like table attorney stuff,

745
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: but in a way that I kind of I guess

746
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: approved of or whatever. But I like the fact that

747
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: her whole life she's been a bad influence on her. Like,

748
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: it made me so happy that she was the one

749
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: who was like, and he's older, I think too. Yeah,

750
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: I love the fact that that she was like, you're

751
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: gonna do what I say. This is bad, but we're

752
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: gonna do it together. And I loved it. I loved it. Yeah,

753
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk about the Judy Greer character too,

754
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: because I think there's like a lot of interesting stuff

755
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: going on with her and PEG's relationship, where like both

756
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: of them are super in the wrong in different moments,

757
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: but it's like, ooh, interesting relationship. I'm excited to talk

758
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: about it for sure. Okay. So Peg is setting up

759
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: her business. She hires mostly like random people who she

760
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: like sees potential in as collectors, along with some women

761
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: she knew from prison, such as Starla and Backer. PEG's

762
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: business starts booming. Everyone is good at their job. Also,

763
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: Peg and Graham are like kind of seeing each other

764
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: slash sleeping together now, but you're like, yeah, I guess okay,

765
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: but he keeps saying like I don't want to date

766
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: you if if you're still a debt collector because of

767
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: this investigation was doing. I just want to do two

768
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: quick shout outs for like the character actors that compose

769
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: PEG's staff, because we've got we've got some fun familiar

770
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: faces in this bunch. Okay, We've got playing the part

771
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: of Francis. We have Lucia Stross, who we just talked

772
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 1: about on fifty First Dates. Better part for them. So

773
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: I was thrilled to see them. Her name is Francis,

774
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: not Starla. I guess that that's yeah, I'd like for whatever.

775
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: Starla was her name she was using as a sexophone operator. Yeah. Yeah,

776
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: she's credited as Frank got it. We have for all

777
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: my Degrassi heads. We have Raymond Ablack, who was on

778
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: Degrassi when I was in high school soft Bundari. I

779
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: had a huge crush on him as I was watching

780
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: this movie. Oh my gosh, oh, I mean he's been

781
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: in a ton like, he's super legit. He's done a

782
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: ton of other stuff. I think he was on Yes,

783
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: he was on Orphan Black. But because if you're I mean,

784
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 1: if you're a Canadian listener, you will know that it's

785
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: the Canadian like it's the Canadian military. You have to

786
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: serve for two years in Degrassi before and you can

787
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: move on to the rest of your life. But he did.

788
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: He's he's one of our bravest Canadian soldiers, um serving

789
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: on the cast of Degrassi from two thousand and seven

790
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: to twenty and ten. And you have Okay, my favorite.

791
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: The woman who plays Ronda is in a small but

792
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: memorable part in the original Santa clause Um who plays

793
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: She plays Judy the waitress from from Dennis from Denny's. Yeah,

794
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: she's an icon I mean she's also been in a

795
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: ton of shit, but like iconically she is Judy the

796
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: waitress from the Santa Claus And I was like, whoa,

797
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: I love, isn't that amazing? I also love how excited

798
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: we got about the fact that we knew she So.

799
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: Ronda is the very regular client of PEG's mom because

800
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: PEG's mom runs a salon out of her house, right

801
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: and Ronda seems to be her only customer, also eating

802
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: her out of house and home and also giving advice

803
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: when it's nannied it Like, I love when she was

804
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: like I could go for a fish stick, I was like, ooh,

805
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: I know this lady. I know this lady. I would

806
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: say no as like it was just yes, yeah, he

807
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: love it so good but yes, shout out to um

808
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: legend of cinema, Judy the Waitress. Just I mean, there's

809
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: I love. I've got a passion for character actress and

810
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: we've got we've got a real murderer's row in this

811
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 1: movie for sure. I also enjoyed the character Backer played

812
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: by Lorie odom odom Yeah, it's a it's a good batch,

813
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: yeah for sure. And I love that she went for hustlers,

814
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, the hustlers smooth talkers, because there's so many

815
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: different ways to hustle and everybody has their own sort

816
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: of like niche and we keep talking about we'll see

817
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: that it works out. She picked the right people. Game

818
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: recognizes game, you know, absolutely, And I like that like Peg,

819
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: I mean to some extent, but it's like whatever, Peg

820
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: is so morally compromised that she does lie to her

821
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: employees with with with regularity, and we'll like try to

822
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: like be like look over here anytime they're like, when

823
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: are you gonna pay me? And and I know, I know,

824
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: Like again, Buffalo had sound off, would you forget that

825
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: your boss hadn't didn't pay you if you got good

826
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: seats at a Buffalo Bills game? Sound off in the comments.

827
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: I think I would just be upset at a Buffalo

828
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: Bills game. I would just be set. I would be

829
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: upset in the box at a Buffalo Bills like, damn,

830
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: I know that I've got some money that I'm old

831
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: so because that's how I am when I don't get

832
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: paid for my freelance work, right, away literally upset while

833
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: I'm at the McDonald so, like, you're like, interesting, it

834
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: seems like you could have used this money for anything else.

835
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: It's so wild. Or I get really upset this little site.

836
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: I get really upset if it's like net sixty one

837
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: and then I see an article published, just like on

838
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: the site, just in general, just like in general, if

839
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: an article publishes, I'm like, hmm, interesting. I feel like

840
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: instead of publishing that article, you could have just sent

841
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: me my money. Yes wild. I was on a writing

842
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: staff last year that like we were not allowed to unionize,

843
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: and then they brought us to a Dodgers game and

844
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: it's like, but let us unionize. Like what I like,

845
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: I don't want a hot dog And that's a lot

846
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: coming from me. I don't want a pretty hot dog today.

847
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: I want a union. I was gonna say, come on union.

848
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: Or also like, um, I don't follow like my editors

849
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: on Twitter, but I know that they have one. So

850
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: if it's NETS one and they're tweeting about they're like

851
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: out somewhere and my money hasn't hit my account, I'm like, huh, interesting.

852
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: Instead of going out or tweeting, it feels like you

853
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: could have paid me my fucking money. But you know

854
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: that's just me at a Buffalo's game, upset. It is

855
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: my new life goal to never get on your bad

856
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: side effort because at the top of the movie when

857
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: Peg says like, don't fuck with my money, that brought

858
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: me in because just don't like I'm a very kind person,

859
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: but I think because of the industry that like I'm

860
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: in and with the way that I grew up with

861
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: like that, it's just very much like you could do

862
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: everything else. You could publish my article late, you could

863
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: do this, you could do but do not mess with

864
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: like my money. It's just no, I can't handle it.

865
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: It's really interesting that don't funk with my money is

866
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: written on your shirt right now. It is. I didn't

867
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: I really didn't want to bring it up because I

868
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: know this isn't like a visual based podcast. But the

869
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: photo that I'm going to send is going to beat

870
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: me in this shirt. So thank you for acknowledging that

871
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 1: an incredible shirt. I mean, it was an investment, really

872
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: it marketing. I told you earlier. Started my merch is

873
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: a part of my merch, your other merch being just

874
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: a shirt that says shreky then on the back and

875
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: it don't sue me. Yeah available now Actually I mean yeah,

876
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: what a good hustle that you're running, thank you. Anyway,

877
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: So Whiz is not happy that Peg has become his competition,

878
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: and he's like, this is war, and he starts fucking

879
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: with her, including dumping a bucket of like probably fake

880
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: blood on Peg at a Bill's game, and then trashing

881
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: her office and stealing their paper aka these pieces of

882
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: paper that have the debtor's information on them, which is

883
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,479
Speaker 1: how they were able to collect the debt from people. Yeah,

884
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: the whole kid the Carrie moment at the Buffalo Bills

885
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: game was like the patriarchy. The guy behavior goes a

886
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: little off the rails for me for part of it.

887
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: But there's a carry moment at the Buffalo Bill's game.

888
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: We can't take that away from this movie. And then

889
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: there's also the blow up Dow, which like, yeah, was

890
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: just also which led into another moment of her telling

891
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: her staff it's okay, everything are fine, things are actually fine,

892
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: It's no big deal, and then trying to get another

893
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: date with mister Fallon, Like I was just like, what

894
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: is going? Like she they just they have they must

895
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: be just like terminally horny for each other because there's

896
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: so many times where it's just like anyone else, anyone, anybody,

897
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: anybody else. But it also seems like one of my favorite,

898
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 1: like very movie things. It seems like German Fowlers maybe

899
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: the only lawyer in the entire city of Buffalo, because

900
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: he is like working on every case all the time.

901
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: He's never like, what are the chances are right chances?

902
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 1: Because he's the prosecutor in her first trial. He's also

903
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: there in court towards the end of the movie in

904
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: her second trial, and then he's also running this working

905
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: in the capacity of an investigative journalist, like he's doing

906
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: a little lot. Sometimes he's a cop because yes, I

907
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: have right minutes. Then he comes in, he's a lawyer.

908
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: He comes in during the raid at the end where

909
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: he's like in a bulletproof jacket. I had to course

910
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: correct my notes at some point because I spent the

911
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: first half hour of the movie thinking that he was

912
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: a police detective and not because that's how he's acting. Yeah,

913
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: that's how he's acting exactly. Yeah. I love his ey secretary.

914
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: She's great. Oh yes, oh my god, iconically finding it

915
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: in all day long. I love that for her. She's like,

916
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: what's happening? What there's a party? Awesome by I was like, Wow,

917
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: that's me when I have to when I work in

918
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: an office. So I'm just like, what huh, I'm leaving.

919
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: And she's complaining about Graham, who is asleep at his

920
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: desk apparently all the time, and also like because he's

921
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 1: drunk on a Tuesday in the middle of the day,

922
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: because there's time where she's like, you can't drive home

923
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: right now, you're so drunk. I mean, he's doing a

924
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: lot of work, so maybe he's got he's gotta wearing

925
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: a lot of hats, he's, you know, self medicating. I

926
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: guess yeah, he's. Yeah, he's he's got like five different

927
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: jobs depending on what the scene requires. Okay, so Wiz

928
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: is fucking with Peg a lot. Wiz also has taken

929
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: ownership of PEG's brother JJ's bar, because JJ had put

930
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: it up for collateral on his mom's refinancing on something

931
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: something debt. The answer is always debt with this movie.

932
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: So then Peg retaliates by calling the cops on Whiz,

933
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: and the cops raid his agency, which gives her the

934
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: opportunity to steal all the paper back that he stole

935
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: from her. So now she has all this access to

936
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: debt or information and she's able to make a bunch

937
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: of money. But then her mom is like, Peg, you're

938
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 1: hurting people with your job, and Peg is like, nah,

939
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: these people spent money they knew they didn't have. And

940
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: this is when Graham is like, well, what about my

941
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: grandpa who was in medical debt and then he lost

942
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: his house and then he died, And Peg is like,

943
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: do I decay? What about my dad? Is what I

944
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: would be? Yeah, the like end of movie there, This

945
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: is another like thing that I mean a lot of

946
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: movies are guilty of. And it kind of makes me

947
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: laugh where it's like the end to act to random

948
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: information reveal that you're like, like, I mean, with with

949
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: Jermaine Fowler's character, it makes sense that that would be

950
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: a but I but it doesn't make sense that he

951
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: would be so deep into this relationship and suddenly it

952
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: matters right exactly. It's solid motivation for him. So I

953
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: don't mind that that's a part of his character at all.

954
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: But it's like, but why did you wait so long

955
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: to tell her that you've been dating this woman for months?

956
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: Like what are you like you know, you know what's

957
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: going on, Like I know she's not being totally honest,

958
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: but you know she's a debt collector, and even an

959
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 1: ethical debt collector is fucked up, like you know that

960
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: that's your job. Like uh. And in the same way

961
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: where it's like I think, I don't know, I guess

962
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what narrative function it really served to.

963
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: I guess it like helps sort of like heal, like

964
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: the information about PEG's father. How do we feel about

965
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: that reveal? Because I think I'm on board with it,

966
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: but I just like, what what purpose did that serve

967
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: other than to like bring her her and her mom

968
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: like a little closer together. I guess I think it

969
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: was That's what I was saying, Like some of those

970
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: stories kind of like I feel like towards that they

971
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: wanted to wrap it up. Well. I kind of felt

972
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: like they were like, we need to do this, we

973
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: need to say this, we need to make this connection

974
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: with them. Also because she was not close with her

975
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: mom throughout the whole movie, which was another thing that

976
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: I kind of actually really liked. So I think that

977
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: they were trying to be like there's this connection and

978
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: then and dropping off family stuff is a really good

979
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: way to like speed up a story. Not a really

980
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: good way, it's a way to speed up a story.

981
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: And I think, honestly that's what they were trying to do.

982
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: But other than that, I can't really think of why. Yeah, right,

983
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,479
Speaker 1: they did it so late. I also like very much

984
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: saw it coming. It didn't even feel like a reveal

985
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: because I'm like the dad. Yeah, I can tell based

986
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: on the stories that these people are sharing that this

987
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: guy is a piece of shit. Yeah, And it's also

988
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: just be because of how much Peg loved him and

989
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: how a verse her dad or her mom was to him,

990
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: and like when it came to money talk, it wasn't

991
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: a surprise that he you know, like shrug, who knows now?

992
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: So PEG's mom and Graham are like ganging up on Peg,

993
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: being like your job is evil. So then there's like

994
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,959
Speaker 1: this big argument among them, and then the cops show

995
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: up all of a sudden because whizz Head tipped them

996
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: off about PEG's mom running an illegal business or something.

997
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: So PEG's mom and JJ are arrested, Which that's evil,

998
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: evil evil to do what WI was did, Yes, for sure,

999
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: But he's patriarchy. The guy that's the kind of thing

1000
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna do. What do you expect? So PEG's mom

1001
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: is arrested. Then we cut to the opening scene with

1002
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: Peg running through Buffalo. She fires the gun that she

1003
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: got from Francis Um and then she attacks whiz and

1004
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: they're fighting, and then the cops show up again and

1005
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: arrest Peg. So she is detained with her mom and

1006
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: this is where they have this like heart to heart.

1007
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: They talk about their dreams and they talk about finances

1008
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: and debt and how PEG's dad was actually an asshole.

1009
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: So then Peg gets out and organizes a meeting with

1010
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: all of the debt collecting agencies, including WHIZZZ. Don't know

1011
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: why he's so like amicable all of a sudden, Yeah,

1012
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: suddenly he's like, I did kind of call the cops

1013
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: on her. So he's like, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry that. Yeah,

1014
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: that climactic scene. I was like, oh, rewrite city going

1015
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: on here? Like, um, It's like I don't know, I

1016
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: just like I don't need to like slam them, but

1017
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: it's like, um, okay, we gotta wrap this up. We

1018
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: gotta wrap this up. What if everyone was in the

1019
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: bar and then they said exactly what they did wrong?

1020
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: And then the movie over and you're like, and then

1021
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: the movie is finished, then that's exactly what And then

1022
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: one more Buffalo bills, right, Because what happens is that

1023
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: Peg pitches all of these debt collecting agencies a scenario

1024
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: where they unite so that they can be this like

1025
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: huge strong force and make a bunch of money. And

1026
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, I love making money, and here's all

1027
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: the shady shit I've done to make money. But surprise,

1028
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: Peg was recording the whole thing. It's a setup, and

1029
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: she now has them admitting to doing a bunch of

1030
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: illegal stuff. So the cops and Jermaine Fowler, who is

1031
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 1: a cop in this scene, come in and arrest all

1032
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: of these Honestly, I was so confused at that point

1033
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: that I didn't even realize that that was like it

1034
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: was weird, like but that he was acting in the

1035
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: capacity of not his job, like just not even remotely

1036
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: his job. He's should be there, that makes sense, Yeah,

1037
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: so bizarre, God bless. So Peg then like sneaks off

1038
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: and goes to Graham's office, where he has all of

1039
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: the evidence on all of these people to convict them,

1040
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: because he's again also an investigative journalist question mark, Um,

1041
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: he's a hustler too, investigator journal Everyone in this movie

1042
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: is hustler. Yep. So Peg torches all of this evidence

1043
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: because she wants to erase all of those people's debts,

1044
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: because she has learned a lesson debt collecting is actually evil.

1045
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: She has not had the opportunity to learn this lesson

1046
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: earlier in the movie. We get to wrap at us up. Yeah,

1047
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh, debt collecting is evil, and you know,

1048
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: most people are in debt because of medical bills and

1049
01:02:55,120 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: student loans and other ways that capitalist institutions fuck over

1050
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: so many Americans. So Peg learns this. But because Peg

1051
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: destroyed that evidence, that's illegal. So then she gets thrown

1052
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: back in jail for a while. But she's released. She

1053
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: apologizes to her mom, she celebrates with her friends, and

1054
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: she shifts gears from to quote the movie selling nothing

1055
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: to people with less than nothing, which is what she

1056
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: did as a debt collector. And she moves on to

1057
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: the people who have everything, to the only hustle that's

1058
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: even more of an unregulated clusterfuck than debt collecting, which

1059
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: is hedge funds. Okay, and I love that. That was fun. Yeah,

1060
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: that was fun. It was cathartic. I liked it because

1061
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: they were like, I think again, trying to be like,

1062
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: she hasn't really learned anything, right, right, She's just gonna

1063
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: like use her powers for sort of more good now, yeah, yeah,

1064
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: sort of more good. Yeah, but she's still being very selfish,

1065
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: like you love that for her. And then there's some

1066
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: text on screen about household debt in the US being

1067
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: thirteen trillion dollars, which is over half of what our

1068
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: like national federal debt is. So I can't believe that's

1069
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: a number. Thirteen trillion, thirteen trillion dollars. It rageous, absurd.

1070
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: So that's the movie. Let's take a quick break and

1071
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:44,479
Speaker 1: we will come back to discuss, and we're back. We're

1072
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: I feel like we have actually had a lot of

1073
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: discussion already. Yeah, I did see. I was thinking that.

1074
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: Every time I interrupted, I was like, I could have

1075
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: saved this, finished the episode. I'm like looking at the

1076
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: clock too, and I was like, Shelley, you're you're a hustler. Cha,

1077
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: thank you? Yeah so much. So what's what's left? I

1078
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: think like we've had this discussion around PEG, but I

1079
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: think that like PEG is a really interesting character. I

1080
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: do like this movie kind of falls apart from me

1081
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: in the third act, but setting up because like you

1082
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: were saying at the beginning of the episode, Shelley, and honestly,

1083
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: you've been like selling me on this movie more the

1084
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: more we talk about it. It's because I'm a I'm scamming,

1085
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: scamming me. It's sixty one and I'm fucked god artist.

1086
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: But I do think that, like, yeah, we have so

1087
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: many male protagonists that are the scammer that we like,

1088
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, don't morally agree with. But you're like, well,

1089
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: I'm like down to watch this guy go for the ride,

1090
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: even though it's like he has significantly less to like

1091
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: push up against. Yeah, and it's cool to see a

1092
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: woman put in that role and be equally fuck you,

1093
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: like I am bad because I think that I'm trying

1094
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: to think of an example of what we've covered on

1095
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: the show. But I feel like sometimes when like a

1096
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: female lead is doing bad stuff, the movie will go

1097
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: way out of its way to give like ethical reasoning

1098
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: for it in a way that you wouldn't for a

1099
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: flawed male protagonist. They'd be like, well she is mommy,

1100
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: or like she is not Like there's like a traditionally

1101
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: feminine reason. She has this huge thing that's going on.

1102
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: This is why she's being bad, This is why she's selfish.

1103
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: Even kill Bill like that is like her whole She's

1104
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: only murdering people because she is mommy. Like that kind

1105
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: of hustlers comes to mind as well, where they're like, yeah,

1106
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: we're like baking drugs and feeding them to people, but

1107
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: it's because I have a daughter. Yeah, and even for

1108
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: me like promising young woman and stuff like, yeah, I

1109
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: love a revenge, Like this is not very revenge, but

1110
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: I mean she is kind of mad at the system

1111
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: people PEG anyway, the system. Yeah, but like I just

1112
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: don't I want I've always wanted films with like, if

1113
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: it's a revenge film with a woman, I wanted it

1114
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: to just be she's just mad for no reason, Like

1115
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: why can't she just want to be bad or want

1116
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: to be selfish or want to make these like money

1117
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: moves and all this kind of stuff because she just

1118
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: wants to She's not trying to like pay to keep

1119
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: her kids in the house or try to get someone

1120
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: out of the hospital. And that's what I kind of

1121
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: love about PEG. It's like, and she's been this way

1122
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: since she was a kid, right, Like, she's just wanted

1123
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: money and it's just something she learned from her dad,

1124
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: which I also thought was cool. Was something a movie

1125
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: where a girl inherits a trait or the characteristic or

1126
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: something from her father versus like her mom, which I

1127
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: think is was super super dope like, but I agree

1128
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: with you that it and towards the end, and there

1129
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: are a lot of holes, you know what I'm saying.

1130
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: But I think because I was so amped about the

1131
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: plot and the money and just how peg is, I

1132
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: kind of like looked past them until right now we're

1133
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: like dissecting. Honestly, most of my issues with the movie

1134
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: are not necessarily like Bechtel cast lens related stuff. It's

1135
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 1: more just like this script could have used a second draft,

1136
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: Like the characters are a little like cartoonish and inconsistent.

1137
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: The plot could be a bit more streamlined, maybe, but

1138
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:41,520
Speaker 1: as far as like examining a complicated and like morally

1139
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: corrupt character who is a woman, which again is kind

1140
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: of a rare thing for a movie to examine, because

1141
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: those characters that writers or that like Hollywood makes space

1142
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: for are almost always men, right, So yeah, I think

1143
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: there's just like interesting too. That's a little why I

1144
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: guess it's been like what we were just talking about,

1145
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: where it's like the most of the movie doesn't like

1146
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: we know why Peg is doing what she's doing, but

1147
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: it is like a self motivated thing. She's not like

1148
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to save the family. She's like family clearly

1149
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: doesn't want to save themselves. I'm going to save myself.

1150
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 1: Like it's not like she doesn't love her family, but

1151
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: she's not like, I guess, you know, using all of

1152
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: her time to be like, come on, mom, it's not

1153
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: her like major concern. Yeah, it's not even her brother's bar.

1154
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: She's like, you're being stupid about how you're running this bar.

1155
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna help you figure it out. But but

1156
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: like you're wrong. Yeah, But like I guess that that's

1157
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: why I felt a little like Studio notesy to me

1158
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: that she's like so thoroughly absolved of everything at the

1159
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: end and then she like I don't know, the whole

1160
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: like colluding with the DA's office at the end of

1161
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: like that whole thing. It's like this is a character

1162
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: who is self motivated and bad like see that does

1163
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: like see that through I don't know I guess that

1164
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: they sort of do, because she ends up just sort

1165
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: of like heel turning to do the exact same sort

1166
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: of diabolical shit in a way that's less harmful to

1167
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: vulnerable people. Yeah. Yeah, I just didn't like it too.

1168
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: Only the major thing that I didn't like I kind

1169
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: of liked that she had a shitty relationship with her mom,

1170
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: And I think that like hard to heart moment in

1171
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: the cell, it kind of made me a little upset

1172
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: because it helped her make a turn or basically make

1173
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: a little turn or whatever, being like, oh, you're just

1174
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: like your dad and Dada dad lah. It's like I

1175
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: wanted her to be like, yeah, I am, and I'm

1176
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: going to keep being like just like it's just who

1177
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: I am, Like I'm gonna be. So I kind of

1178
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: don't like. I didn't like that bit of it, But

1179
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it was because the same

1180
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: thing is like hard to heart, learn something from your mom,

1181
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: This is learn why you're doing wrong. I kind of

1182
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: did want Pig to keep doing I wanted her to

1183
01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: like come back out of prison and be like, Okay,

1184
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: so now I've learned exactly what not to do and

1185
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: maybe take it somewhere else to another city, you know

1186
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like just I mean, but I yeah,

1187
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: I did it. I would have ended like she's she's

1188
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: like a little she's a little villainous and it's like

1189
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: but and we know why. But it's like, yeah, yeah,

1190
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it's like, I guess, do

1191
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: I want Girl Boss Jordan Belford? No, But while we're here,

1192
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I guess I feel kind of

1193
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: like conflicted about it. I do like the wow, we're

1194
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: here part of that, though, it's like, well, if we're

1195
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 1: gonna do this, then right, like let's just do because

1196
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: I don't It's not like I feel like a lot

1197
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: of the times they do this with like black films too,

1198
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 1: They'll take a white film and like make it black.

1199
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to tell them to like take this

1200
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: like male censored situation and make it put a girl there.

1201
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if we're already here and

1202
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: if that feels like it was kind of the plan anyway,

1203
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: you got to see it all the way through, like yeah, yeah,

1204
01:11:58,479 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess. It's like I'm sort of

1205
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 1: all over the place in that regard because it's also like, well,

1206
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 1: our hero is actively oppressing people and ruining their lives,

1207
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: and that's I mean, I guess that you what this

1208
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 1: movie does really well is contextualized that like a certain

1209
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: amount of this is just like who Peg is as

1210
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: a person. She's super fucking motivated. And but then where

1211
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: the society ship comes in is like she has this

1212
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: really intense motivated personality in the context of growing up

1213
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: poor and in the context of being told that she's

1214
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,759
Speaker 1: not going to amount to shit and like can't do anything.

1215
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: And so it's like a little mix of like nature

1216
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: and nurture that like brings her to where she is,

1217
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's that's much more effective than

1218
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: like in a void. Oh, she's just like this. And

1219
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 1: I also think it like connects to her relationship with

1220
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 1: her mom, which I think is really interesting and feels

1221
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: very like boomer like late gen X parent and millennial

1222
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: gen Z kid, where her mom does still have a

1223
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: like even though she is a single mom who is

1224
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: like busting her ass so that her kids can get

1225
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: what they want. They don't have a great relationship, like

1226
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: you're saying, Shelley. I liked that they didn't have a

1227
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: great relationship. It like made sense because Peg represents all

1228
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: these things and these qualities that her mom is not

1229
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: comfortable with. Her mom still has like a fairly traditional

1230
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: set of values in terms of gender. That comes up

1231
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: several times, and then it's like this weird, well, yeah,

1232
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: I want to know what you think about this, because

1233
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: there's like that weird chafing argument with them that happens

1234
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 1: a few times in the movie where her mom is

1235
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: being pretty sexist towards her, and it is like, well,

1236
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: why can't you just like settle down and like, you know,

1237
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: cut the ship and settle down. You've met a nice guy,

1238
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 1: which is super reductive and horrible and shitty, and Peg

1239
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: never you know, entertains it. But then it also is

1240
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: like it almost I don't know. There were moments where

1241
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 1: Peg was like, no, I don't want to do that,

1242
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: and thus I must do crime, and you're like, surely

1243
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: there's some middle ground here. It's like, or you could

1244
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 1: just not pay for the dinner, because that's where I came.

1245
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 1: It came for me, is when she was talking about

1246
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you out, and then the mom kept

1247
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: saying who's paying, who's paying? Why would you pay? That

1248
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: kind of situation. And I think if instead of her

1249
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 1: being like oh, she could have just been like, I'm

1250
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: going to pay for this dinner, not all right, Well,

1251
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go open up my own scamming business

1252
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 1: situation and be a girl boss so to show you

1253
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: that I can pay for dinners with whatever guy I

1254
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: want to. It just was a very intense going against

1255
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: what mom wants situation. Yeah. Yeah. Also that character trait

1256
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 1: of PEG's mom that she's like holding onto these patriarchal

1257
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: standard of a man should pay for dinner because a

1258
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: man should be the provider. And then like I feel like,

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01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: a couple minutes later, her mom's like, Peg, would it

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01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 1: kill you to wear a skirt every now? And then

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01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: that happened so late in the movie, and it feels

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01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: like it came out of nowhere. I'm like, yeah, what

1263
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: has her mom been this like old fashioned, like whole

1264
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: weird like sexist ideals, ladies. I feel like her equivalent

1265
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: of my grandfather was in debt And you're like, why

1266
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: am I learning this now? Yeah? Why am I learning

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01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: this about you now? Because if if let's say that

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01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: was established earlier about PEG's mom, that like if she

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01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: was sort of like judgmental of Peg for wanting to

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01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: be such a go getter and wanting to make so

1271
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 1: much money because she's like no, no, no, like girls

1272
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: and women shouldn't have to you know, you should just

1273
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: go and try and find a man and and like

1274
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 1: let him be the provider. Why are you so gung

1275
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: ho about making your own money? And maybe that was

1276
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: like fueled PEG's desire even more to be like I

1277
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: have to prove these sexist ideals wrong. Like yeah, I

1278
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: don't know. It might have been like kind of corny,

1279
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: but at least it would have been consistent, yeah, because

1280
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 1: it also would have helped, Like again, mayked more consistent too.

1281
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: If why her mom like didn't really know about I

1282
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,560
Speaker 1: guess the debt situations like in the house, Like it

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01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: would have made sense if that was a part of

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01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: the character. If her mom was this person and a

1285
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: lot of women back in her day when she was

1286
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: being they didn't know how the finances of the house

1287
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: was being ran. You feel me so because they were

1288
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 1: very much so like I am just taking care of

1289
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: house and home, like I make sure dinner is clipped

1290
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: and the house is clean and all that kind of stuff.

1291
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: So if they had introduced her as like more of

1292
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: a gen X version of that woman. It would have

1293
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 1: also made more sense throughout the film too, because I

1294
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: remember at one point she asked her as soon as

1295
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,759
Speaker 1: she got home, the one of the ladies talked about

1296
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 1: her roots too, and she was like, yes, we're gonna

1297
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: get there taken care of and it's just like but

1298
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: then she was like, get a job, or I haven't

1299
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 1: seen you in a few weeks. It's just she was

1300
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 1: a little bit choppy. Yeah, that and like her being

1301
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: like women shouldn't like men are the providers. Meanwhile, PEG's

1302
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: mom owns and operates a business, like a whole as business.

1303
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 1: You would think that, like I mean, and again this

1304
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: is but like if I have like a movie logic

1305
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: helmet on, you would think that if she felt that way,

1306
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: she would be remarried, like she would have actively sought

1307
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: that up for herself. But it doesn't seem like that's

1308
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 1: been a priority for her, which is fine. I prefer

1309
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: that like for this story, but it's weird. I feel

1310
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: like there is maybe room for something a little more nuanced,

1311
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: because yeah, it didn't seem consistent with the character, and

1312
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: it's like, there are you know, intergenerational, like varying definitions

1313
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: of like her mom is making, you know, what would

1314
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: be considered like an honest living like she is, Like

1315
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: I guess it's her businesses and technically legal, but like

1316
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: she's she's not doing work that is hurting people and

1317
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: her job is not ethically compromised. And I feel like

1318
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: there's that's kind of an interesting conversation to have between

1319
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: a parent and a child and between a mother and

1320
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: a daughter of like, I don't approve of what you're

1321
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: doing because it's hurting people, and where is your line

1322
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: of compromise, like morally, Like that's an interesting conversation, but

1323
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 1: it felt more like they it became like a more

1324
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: basic something that's been like hashed out a million times

1325
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: of like put on a dress and get married, which,

1326
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: like you're both saying, like, doesn't really have anything to

1327
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: do with that character. Yeah, yeah, it just shows up

1328
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: similarly Whiz being so cartoonish in his sexism. And I'm

1329
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: not saying there aren't men like this, but like, for sure,

1330
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: I feel like it's chicks. Yeah. Literally. Here are some

1331
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: quotes from the movie Wait, please perform at Gai Courtney style. Please,

1332
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: he says, go be my bar bitch and get me

1333
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 1: some bears. And you're like, oh, Gi, I was hoping

1334
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 1: that you were going to start off with that one.

1335
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: I really really really was. And then when Peg like

1336
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: double crosses him, he's like, this is why I don't

1337
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: hire bitches, And I think what he means is this

1338
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: is why I don't hire women, and he just thinks

1339
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: all women are bitches or that's exactly Oh he is

1340
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: a thousand percent saying because woman, And then like he

1341
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: dumps blood on her head and like has a little

1342
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: handwritten note that says something like the only thing that

1343
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: bitches collect is menstrual blood. It was like cartoon ish,

1344
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: like you're just like a cartoon character and it is

1345
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: called out to She didn't even know that she was

1346
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: going to try to Like I guess the other knew

1347
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: she was gonna try to get a job there. But

1348
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 1: he was like he told me, He told me I

1349
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: was there was gonna be like a guest, but he

1350
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,480
Speaker 1: didn't say she was a piece, And I was like, oh, yeah,

1351
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 1: he also, yeah, he aggressively sexually harasses her in the

1352
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: workplace multiple times. He like I was like, hey, is

1353
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: this buffalo's sexual harassment or is this character just using

1354
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: wildly outdated terms because could you just call me a piece? Like?

1355
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: But here is it? No? Um? There's another scene where

1356
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: it's when like he's really short changing her as far

1357
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: as how much commission she's supposed to earn, and he

1358
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: like puts his arm around her and is like making

1359
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 1: her uncomfortable, invading her space, and then she's like, I

1360
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 1: mean she pushes back, which I'm happy to see where

1361
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: she's just like, get your fucking hand off me. But

1362
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: I think this is all just very indicative of while

1363
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: the movie was directed by a woman, it was written

1364
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: by a man, and I feel like, yeah, it was like,

1365
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 1: what's his name, Brian Sokka, He's like, what does sexism

1366
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 1: look like? Oh my god, it's when men call women

1367
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 1: pitches one hundred times dumps and throw blood are blood

1368
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: on you at a Buffalo Bill's game, and often uses

1369
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: blow up. Thus from nineteen ninety two was very ol

1370
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: Bundy like very like what oh yes, like what that was?

1371
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: That was why he he was wild for that one.

1372
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 1: And it also just seemed like Jai Courtney is like

1373
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: as a man, was like doing kind of some old

1374
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: man stuff when he was not an old man he was, um, yeah,

1375
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: I thought, like, yeah, I think that, like honestly, that

1376
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: as funny as I thought that character was, I feel

1377
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: like it sort of again, like in the same way,

1378
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: it's like it felt a little too broad and like

1379
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: there could have been a more productive conversation of like

1380
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: I think a lot of like discrimination in general is

1381
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: done at like the micro aggression level and this but

1382
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: this movie just like is not Ya does not have

1383
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: the capacity for micro anything. Like everything is like maximal

1384
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 1: all the time, so it's just maybe not the movie

1385
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 1: for it. But yeah, now everything is very, very very

1386
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: to the max. And I think, like when I was

1387
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: watching this movie too, why I like really connected with

1388
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: it or because, like I said, it was during like

1389
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: the first Lockdown and I think this was like I

1390
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: watched it in May or something like that. I think

1391
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: it was because there was so much going on with

1392
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 1: money in the world at that situation, Like a lot

1393
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: of people were like concerned. I mean, it's always stuff

1394
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 1: going on in the world with money, but a lot

1395
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 1: of people were like super concerned about it. We didn't

1396
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: know what was going on. People were losing jobs, like

1397
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 1: all this kind of shit was happening, and I think

1398
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 1: That's another reason why I was like, oh, yeah, I'm

1399
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna watch this movie about debt and scare myself a

1400
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 1: little bit more like why not? Of course I am,

1401
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, and I'm just wondering why it's so hidden.

1402
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: I guess, Like, but I often find films like that

1403
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 1: where I like become obsessed with this movie that was

1404
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: probably not really meant to be seen. Yeah, did it

1405
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 1: have a theatrical release? Because I watched it on Hulu

1406
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 1: and I was wondering, like, oh, it's just like a

1407
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 1: Hulu production, and that's the thing. I also originally watched

1408
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: it on Hulu and this was like three years ago,

1409
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 1: so I don't think it was even meant to have

1410
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: a theatrical release. Yeah, I don't remember it getting a

1411
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 1: release if it did have one. I mean, this was

1412
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: something we could probably easily look up. No, I mean

1413
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: it made like less than thirty thousand dollars at the

1414
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: box office, which again, and this was like pre pandemic too,

1415
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: so it's like not even actually really during it. So

1416
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: I do think it's it's frustrating because I mean I

1417
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: don't know like this director Tanya Wexler, who also I

1418
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Massachusetts heads, was one of the first

1419
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: queer was one of the first gay marriage became legal

1420
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. In two thousand and four, Tanya Wexler and

1421
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: her wife were one of the first couples to ever

1422
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: be legally married in the country, which I thought was

1423
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: really cool. It's just a fun fact. But like, she

1424
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: was already a well respected director. This is her fourth film,

1425
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 1: and I think it's like really frustrating that it didn't

1426
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 1: get more attention because it's like, is it perfect? No?

1427
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: Is it talking about stuff that no one ever talks

1428
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: about in movies in a smart and funny way that

1429
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 1: centers a woman who's poor, and like like that these

1430
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 1: are all things that like, very very regularly happen. And

1431
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 1: I wish, yeah, I wish I understood why it didn't

1432
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: get more attention, because honestly, before you pitched it, Shelley,

1433
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard of this movie. And like, and I

1434
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: think too, like with the cast being so stacked too,

1435
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: Like it's a pretty good it's a pretty dope cast,

1436
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: like Trudy Greer first of all, but then you got

1437
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:49,520
Speaker 1: all these familiar faces, like two smaller roles, but everyone

1438
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 1: is just like in it. But yeah, I just thought

1439
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 1: it was like a really dope movie because I movies

1440
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: I talk about money in any capacity is really pretty

1441
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: much interesting to me. But I don't know a lot

1442
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: of movies about like debt and student loans and women

1443
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: that are all kind of repped and poor, like being poor,

1444
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,679
Speaker 1: a poor woman. It was just like that was really

1445
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: like drew me to it. But and then I just

1446
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: like started really liking Zoe Dutch as an actress, Like,

1447
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: but yeah, I saw her in Not Okay, which I

1448
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: know a lot of people did not like. But also

1449
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 1: she's she's the daughter of Leah Thompson, like the Caroline

1450
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 1: in the City, like what. It's just like she is

1451
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: like that is like some that nepotism did please me

1452
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: a little bit. That was one that actually that pleased

1453
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 1: me quite a bit, if I'm being honest. I was like, okay, wait,

1454
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 1: Leah Thompson of Back to the Future, she plays the

1455
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 1: random Back to the Future whoa Okay, And she's in

1456
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: that duck movie Howard. I think Howard the Duck, isn't

1457
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: she and Howard the Duck? We should cover Howard the Duck?

1458
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: That one that is a trip Duck December on the

1459
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: Matreon and due Howard the Duck and the Mighty Ducks. Oh,

1460
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 1: it'll be great. Ducks Ducks, Ducks, Ducks December. Absolutely. Wow,

1461
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: we're doing it. We will not stop until every bad

1462
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: theme has been done. Um. Oh you could also do

1463
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: duck Butter. Duck Butter? Did you already talk about that movie?

1464
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: What's that? Oh? My god, I know about all these

1465
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: movies that I've never heard of. That movie has uh

1466
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: maybe fuka, Oh, Chicat is in it and it's gay

1467
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 1: and it's bad to me. But it's called duck Butter. Yeah.

1468
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: That gay movies be bad. That's my campaign all the time.

1469
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 1: Gay movies be bad. But then you have dikes and

1470
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: duck December. Yeah, there is Wow. Okay, I love it.

1471
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:10,799
Speaker 1: I love it. I love a theme. Okay, keep sending

1472
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: pick because we we've been I it's shocking that we haven't.

1473
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean I think that our advantages they were never good.

1474
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 1: They were always bad, and so we never had to

1475
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 1: be like we had to think of another good theme.

1476
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: It's never It's never happened. I love it. Um to

1477
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 1: go back to the like discussion of like finances and money,

1478
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 1: that that's like the crux of this movie or some

1479
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: some might even call it the thrust of the movie.

1480
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: I'm bringing it back. Whoa keep saying thrust? I wish

1481
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 1: everyone could see that the eyebrows, not Jamie that went

1482
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: up with that, Like, Okay, I know you can't funk

1483
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 1: around with Caitlin when they're saying thrust. It's just like, okay,

1484
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: you win. Yeah, don't try and stop me. I'm not

1485
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 1: I'm not stop. So here's what has happened. I wrote

1486
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 1: down something in my notes, and I don't remember if

1487
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 1: it's because it gets examined thoughtfully in the movie or

1488
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: if it's just a really meaningful, amazing thing that I

1489
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 1: had to say. Excited, I'm still excited. So part of

1490
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 1: the story is that she never even ends up having

1491
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: student debt because she never ends up going to the

1492
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 1: Ivy League school that she got into, or any school, because,

1493
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,799
Speaker 1: as she points out, that to go to the school

1494
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:39,480
Speaker 1: that she got into would have been seventy thousand dollars

1495
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 1: in interest alone, So it's like hundreds of thousands of

1496
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: dollars in tuition and housing and expenses that she would

1497
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: have incurred. So I'm glad, they say, right. And one

1498
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 1: of the reasons she's so kind of hell bent on

1499
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 1: going to college and specifically an Ivy League school. Is

1500
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 1: she as that higher education is the key to financial freedom.

1501
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: Now I think that, I think that's tongue in cheese,

1502
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,759
Speaker 1: and I don't think this really gets examined or challenged

1503
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 1: in the movie. But while like a degree does open

1504
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: a lot more doors for people, higher education is also

1505
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,600
Speaker 1: kind of a racket and it ends up suffocating a

1506
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 1: lot of people in student debt that they have a

1507
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: really hard time escaping, and it doesn't necessarily like guarantee

1508
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 1: you a magnificent job. So I don't and again, I

1509
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 1: don't think the movie is actually commenting on that. I

1510
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 1: think this is my tirade against all my higher education.

1511
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: My view is like higher education should baseline be more accessible,

1512
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 1: because it feels like between our parents' generation and hours,

1513
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 1: it seems like you now need an expensive college degree

1514
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: to have access to the same level of jobs that

1515
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: our parents had with a high school degree, and so

1516
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: now there's this huge financial entry point to work at

1517
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 1: an entry level job, Like it's hard to get my

1518
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean, my my brother is like struggling with this

1519
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: right now. He's trying to get a basic office job,

1520
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 1: and it's like he has a college education, but it's

1521
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 1: like it's still not enough and that wasn't as much

1522
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: the case with previous generations. And I don't know, it's

1523
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: like I don't I would never want to discourage anyone

1524
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 1: from getting higher education. I think it's more of a

1525
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 1: matter of just like I think that like I was,

1526
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm very glad I went to college. I feel very

1527
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 1: lucky that I got to go. If I knew what

1528
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 1: I knew now, I would have chosen. I probably would

1529
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 1: have gone to a state school. I wouldn't have been

1530
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 1: as like enchanted by the like high price tag, like

1531
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 1: fancy looking like oh, you have to go here. But

1532
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 1: even that introduces this sort of thing because you're like

1533
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 1: almost buying into an alumni network and you're buying in

1534
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 1: like there are things that come I just like I

1535
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I I because I feel like there's there's

1536
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: a discussion about this in a recent like I think

1537
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 1: it was one of the trillion bullshit New York Times

1538
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 1: opinion articles that have come out recently. I think I

1539
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: might be thinking of another publication. But they were like,

1540
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 1: you know, asking like well, where have all the English

1541
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 1: major's gone, and like English majors a culturally catch so

1542
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 1: much shit of like this is a useless degree, this sucks,

1543
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And I know, like I've probably made

1544
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 1: similar comments like I have a useless degree, like and

1545
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, but in retrospect, it's like you'd

1546
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 1: need people to be incentivized to want to study literature

1547
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 1: and study history, especially in like study history. Well, but

1548
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 1: you can't be in you know, six figure debt to

1549
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: study history. There's no way out of right, Like you're fucked.

1550
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 1: And then so what do you do just like lose

1551
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 1: certain areas of study because it's been made so impossible

1552
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 1: to even access it. I just I don't know. I

1553
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 1: think the movie kind of like explores it a little

1554
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: bit by saying by the opposite, right, Like I think

1555
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 1: that's what Peg thinks. She's like, oh my god, yeah,

1556
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: like this is what I need in order to be somebody,

1557
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: in order to get a lot of money in order

1558
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: to do all this shit. Then ultimately she doesn't go

1559
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 1: and she learns that that's actually not what you There's

1560
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 1: so many ways for you to be successful. I guess

1561
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 1: it just depends on what kind of financially successful you want.

1562
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 1: Because she's scamming, So it's a little bit different, right,

1563
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 1: But I think but successfully. But I think that like

1564
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 1: I was very bought or in like sold a dream

1565
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 1: when it came to like college. But I think that

1566
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 1: like goes back to what it says about like our parents.

1567
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 1: My parents were like I was the first person in

1568
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: my I'm the first person in my family to like

1569
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: go to college, right, like and to like graduate and

1570
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Like my brother went, but

1571
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: he went for like two semesters and was like, absolutely

1572
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 1: the fuck not, I don't do this, you know, good

1573
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 1: for him? Good for him? Right, And I think that

1574
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 1: I wish, like when we're saying looking back, Jimmy, I

1575
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: think like I wish that I had been told more

1576
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: like the options, like you said, a state school or

1577
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 1: going to community college first for some quarters and then

1578
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: transferring over or knowing that like I didn't have to

1579
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,839
Speaker 1: do it in four years and wrack up all that debt,

1580
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But I do think that

1581
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: that is a really big thing. And people never I

1582
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 1: would just go for fashion, Like I majored in fashion

1583
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 1: and minored in journalism, right, But when I look back

1584
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 1: at it now, like no one's ever asked to see

1585
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 1: our degree. No one's ever asked for it. I've never

1586
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 1: got I've never had to prove it. And then like

1587
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 1: I never needed it for the career that I've made

1588
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:53,679
Speaker 1: for myself now, Like I really honestly didn't need to go,

1589
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 1: but I was told that that is what I needed

1590
01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 1: in order to be successful, was a college degree. And

1591
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 1: then I ended up putting myself in this debt. I

1592
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 1: ended up putting my mom and dad in debt. And

1593
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 1: that's what I was going to talk about too, with

1594
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 1: like debt in general, that's why I know so much

1595
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 1: about it because, like I said, I learned about debt

1596
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,839
Speaker 1: before I learned about earnings because my family was always

1597
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 1: paying something off for paying a bill or catching up

1598
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 1: on a bill or something like that. So I was

1599
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: always more focused on that. But I personally only have

1600
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 1: thirty thousand in student loans, and I only have that

1601
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 1: because my mom and dad took on the rest, you

1602
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,679
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I think it wasn't a plan.

1603
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: I think it's just because like they were doing that

1604
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: same thing of being like this is your key, so

1605
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 1: we are going to take this on because this is

1606
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: your key to doing all the big stuff and ultimately

1607
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 1: like rescuing or being there for us, you know what

1608
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean too. So I think that's another thing that's

1609
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: kind of explored in the movie too, Like Peg does

1610
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 1: want to make money for herself, but she actually does

1611
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,719
Speaker 1: say it when she talks about going to school. She's

1612
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 1: like it's for her and it's for her family, like

1613
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 1: she herself as a she may be, she still knows

1614
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 1: that her success equals like theirs, which is kind of

1615
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 1: like a lot of pressure. But like, right, it's just

1616
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure, so I guess, But yeah, I

1617
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 1: wish I had just been told more about loans and stuff,

1618
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 1: like it's so and I feel like it's like intentional

1619
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 1: that it's not so intentional. Yeah, you're seventeen. You are

1620
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 1: seventeen years old. And then they're like, hey, you want

1621
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 1: to go to college show you've watched those bit of

1622
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 1: do you want to take out nine four years? Don't worry,

1623
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 1: it's four years. We're gonna give you a really good degree.

1624
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna make so much money, and then we'll like

1625
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 1: just get it back from me. If we're a little bit,

1626
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,760
Speaker 1: you're seventeen, you don't know anything, and I think we

1627
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 1: know more so if our generation um like has kids

1628
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, I think I hope that it's

1629
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 1: a little bit better for them, just because we can

1630
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 1: now teach them more about these predatory practices and what

1631
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 1: to be looking out for and all that kind of stuff.

1632
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is like pushing for like

1633
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 1: more systemic like that's I mean, like literally what's happening

1634
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 1: in the Supreme Court right now, and like how it

1635
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 1: sucks because it's like as individuals your powers, you have

1636
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 1: more power, and like telling your own child like, hey,

1637
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 1: I fucking fell for this. We are not going to

1638
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 1: fall for this. Yeah, we will not be fooled again.

1639
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: But then on the other end is just like continuing

1640
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:31,679
Speaker 1: to push for this to be less of a problem,

1641
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 1: which is like theoretically what should be happening with student

1642
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 1: debt relief even though it's nowhere close to the amount

1643
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 1: of like ten thousand is like a drop in the bucket,

1644
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 1: like everybody, Yeah, it wouldn't even make a dent for

1645
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 1: most people, right Yeah. And to be clear, I love education.

1646
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 1: I love learning. You have so much of it. I

1647
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 1: have so much of it in learning rocks. I'm not

1648
01:36:55,760 --> 01:37:01,719
Speaker 1: pro ignorance, correct, What I am against is what higher

1649
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 1: education has become as far as it's a scale like

1650
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 1: odd business, and like you were saying, Jamie about just

1651
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 1: sort of the shift in the in the job market

1652
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 1: of like our generation now needs an advanced degree for

1653
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:20,759
Speaker 1: entry level positions versus what our parents needed. So people

1654
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 1: noticed like, oh, there's now like this supply and demand

1655
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:28,879
Speaker 1: thing that we can completely exploit. And I mean, tuition

1656
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 1: rates increase like dramatically every single year. Sometimes if I

1657
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 1: really want to feel awful, I will google like annual

1658
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:44,560
Speaker 1: tuition rate for Boston University for just a lot of

1659
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 1: private schools cost fifty eight thousand dollars a year just

1660
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 1: in tuition sixty thousand, sixty four thousand, Like it's obscene.

1661
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: There's so much complicity, And I like, Glin, I don't

1662
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 1: disagree with your point that like, not everyone, I mean,

1663
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: and Shellie you were seeing not everyone, Like if you

1664
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:03,640
Speaker 1: have first of all, if you don't know what you

1665
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 1: want to do when you're seventeen years old, you are

1666
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 1: normal and you don't like yeah that is so it

1667
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,719
Speaker 1: blows my mind. It blows my mind. It's like they're

1668
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:14,560
Speaker 1: you're seventeen and they're like, okay, so what are you

1669
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 1: gonna do for the rest of your life? Are you

1670
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 1: ready pick It's just like no, I don't know. No,

1671
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 1: so like you should be allowed the grace to and

1672
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 1: then like but then it creates this wild issue where

1673
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 1: it's like, well, what are you going to do in

1674
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 1: the meantime if you can't get a job without a

1675
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 1: college degree, and like it just is a fucking whatever

1676
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: that fancy word for sank eating its tail is, it's

1677
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 1: that But I don't know. Yeah, But then there are

1678
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 1: like I do agree with Caitlin where there's like some

1679
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: things where it's like, I don't know, I went to

1680
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 1: Emerson and I should be ashamed of that, and I am,

1681
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: but they horrible school after disgusting what I mean, I

1682
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 1: really like whenever I'm grateful I got to go to college,

1683
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 1: I would not do that again. But it's partially because

1684
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 1: it's like that school now offers like a comedy standard

1685
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 1: and they will let wait, they will let a kid

1686
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 1: go into six figure debt when the answer is go

1687
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,640
Speaker 1: to an open mic, open mic and humiliate yourself and

1688
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 1: it's free like that kind of shit. You're like, that's

1689
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:17,679
Speaker 1: just like a predatory and a them problem with sixty

1690
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year and they're like, will you speak

1691
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 1: to them? I'm like, no, no, because you all you're

1692
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 1: gonna do is get on stage and be like don't

1693
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 1: do this. But I think that's the thing too, and

1694
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:31,799
Speaker 1: they'll just like cut your mic and you're just written

1695
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 1: to like no, no, no, that wasn't very funny, was it. Well,

1696
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't learn a lot. I think that's

1697
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 1: the thing too that a lot of colleges are doing, right,

1698
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 1: Like I never kind off topic, we're not really on

1699
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 1: topic about the movie, but like that's another thing that

1700
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 1: colleges are doing. I think they're figuring out that we

1701
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 1: or people have figured out that they don't need to

1702
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 1: go to college to do certain things. Like you said,

1703
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 1: a sixty thousand dollars a year to pay to learn

1704
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 1: how to be a stand up comedian. I cannot believe

1705
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: that that's an actu degree. Like that blows my mind.

1706
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but like you know, you're going to be

1707
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:07,759
Speaker 1: learning from exclusively failed stand up comedians. That's not gonna

1708
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: be But I think that's what they're doing. It's just

1709
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 1: like they're very aware that people are going other routes

1710
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 1: to do the things that they want to do. So

1711
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 1: I think a smarter kid, especially of this generation with

1712
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:23,639
Speaker 1: parents who our millennials, will be like, Okay, you want

1713
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 1: to be a standup comedian. Sure, that's fine, but I

1714
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 1: would rather pay for you to go take a two

1715
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 1: thousand dollars year class at second City versus sixty thousand

1716
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 1: dollars a year at a major college for four years

1717
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 1: to do the same thing. So I think colleges are

1718
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: also they're just trying to use their names that they

1719
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 1: have at these degrees and these programs to be like,

1720
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:48,799
Speaker 1: you still have to go to college to do whatever

1721
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 1: it is you want to do. You still have to

1722
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: go to college, because that's insane to me. I did

1723
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 1: not know that you could actually get a degree in

1724
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,679
Speaker 1: stand up comedy from Emerson College. That's I will never

1725
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 1: shut up about it. To be clear, I do not

1726
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 1: have this degree, and I'm not used to participate. But like,

1727
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I think ultimately, like I think

1728
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:12,640
Speaker 1: something that that Peg is not affected by, and I

1729
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 1: think that her character is supposed to be gen Z.

1730
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 1: Also like this movie could take place in any year.

1731
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't really know. You don't see people using phone

1732
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 1: like cell phones anyways, But it seems like she's like

1733
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 1: sort of a gen Z coded character, and I did

1734
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 1: appreciate that, Like I don't know, like when I couldn't

1735
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 1: go to the ridiculously overpriced college that I would have

1736
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 1: been in debt forever if I had gone on. The

1737
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 1: reason I went to Emerson was because they offered me

1738
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 1: a big scholarship and so that was really lucky. But like, anyways,

1739
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: like the I took it so personally. It felt like

1740
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 1: a personal failure that I couldn't go where I thought

1741
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 1: I was supposed to, and like so it felt personal,

1742
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:00,120
Speaker 1: and then it I also just was not educated it

1743
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,599
Speaker 1: on my options whatsoever, and like there was so much

1744
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 1: stigma and like shame if you couldn't do the thing

1745
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 1: you thought you're supposed to do. And it seems like

1746
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: Peg does not suffer under that as the movie goes on,

1747
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:15,600
Speaker 1: like she's just like, well, I'm not like it. It

1748
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 1: is the system, it's not me, So what can I do? Yeah? Yeah, um,

1749
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 1: I wanted to just really quickly. I don't really have

1750
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 1: much to say about this other than I just think

1751
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:36,639
Speaker 1: that the romance between Peg and Graham feels pretty wedged in. Yeah,

1752
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 1: I don't mind that like Graham is there as a

1753
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 1: character kind of you know, like representing whatever some kind

1754
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 1: of like institutional like also like the failure of like

1755
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 1: the legal system in the US. I feel like could

1756
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 1: have maybe been better represented in his character. But I'm

1757
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:59,560
Speaker 1: just like why it doesn't, Like the story only suffers

1758
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 1: it was weird, that character was so weird, and the

1759
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 1: story suffers from like trying to like put them together,

1760
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, none of this makes any sense.

1761
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 1: Like you're constantly talking about how this is a conflict

1762
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,759
Speaker 1: of interest and it is, so why are you together?

1763
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:19,600
Speaker 1: I think they thought that if they were going to

1764
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 1: make her such this kind of character, that they had

1765
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: to give her a romance, right, but which I do

1766
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 1: like hate, but I would have really loved if instead

1767
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,640
Speaker 1: of making him because I agree it's one of the

1768
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 1: things about the film that I'm kind of like, this

1769
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 1: is weird. Instead of making him like a romantic interest,

1770
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:38,680
Speaker 1: I think it would have been coage just to keep

1771
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,839
Speaker 1: him as this other lawyer that it just like happens

1772
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 1: to always be around because he's involved in this debt

1773
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 1: collecting like situation, you know what I mean. Yeah, it

1774
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:53,559
Speaker 1: didn't have to be romantic it could have been a

1775
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,679
Speaker 1: little bit more comedic, and but yeah, it was kind

1776
01:43:56,720 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 1: of weird, especially because they kept acknowledging that they not

1777
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 1: and would not work out like they consistently did it,

1778
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 1: So it was really weird to me. But yeah, it

1779
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:10,719
Speaker 1: was kind of like thrown in there, and she didn't

1780
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 1: need a romance. I don't think Peg needed one in general,

1781
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 1: or was seeking one or wanted one. But I think

1782
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,839
Speaker 1: when it came to the script, they were like, well,

1783
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 1: we can't make her a girl boss and single, right

1784
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:26,719
Speaker 1: right pick a lane Peg, which is like wow, because

1785
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 1: that sounds like something PEG's mom would say randomly, like absolutely,

1786
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 1: I agree, Like I don't think that the love story

1787
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 1: was necessary, but also it was like it was once again,

1788
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 1: I was just like a little confusing because it seemed

1789
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:40,680
Speaker 1: like at first she was like using him, which she

1790
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:42,640
Speaker 1: was for most of the relationship, but then at the

1791
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 1: end it's kind of like flipped and they're like, well,

1792
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 1: but she does love him. I'm like, I was not

1793
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:48,759
Speaker 1: really picking up on that. It seemed like she would

1794
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 1: go to be like, hey, do you want to have

1795
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 1: sex when she needed to steal something from the DA's off,

1796
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 1: Like that was almost exclusively what it was, and which

1797
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 1: that feels more consistent with her character, but again it's

1798
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 1: like a third act finger at the end, she's like,

1799
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: I think he's my boyfriend, and you're like, I don't

1800
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 1: know if you like him, Like what do you have

1801
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 1: anything in common? Like, But that would have been great too,

1802
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 1: to keep her as this selfish person who is just

1803
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 1: very much being like I need some files. I'm just

1804
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 1: gonna do this, But I don't think they were gonna

1805
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 1: They weren't too keen on keep making peg that way

1806
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 1: in like every aspect of her life, which yeah, they

1807
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:24,680
Speaker 1: wanted to like redeem her just enough by the end

1808
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:27,040
Speaker 1: of the movie, yeah, which and I do I do

1809
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 1: like the kind of like half redemption of like she

1810
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 1: doesn't be like I'm gonna go I'm gonna like I'm

1811
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 1: a second grade teacher. Like she's like, I think that

1812
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:38,679
Speaker 1: like where she ends career wise at the end really worked.

1813
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 1: But it was like the little things like that of

1814
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 1: like and now she's in a relationship and now she

1815
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 1: has a better relationship with her family, and it's like, yeah,

1816
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 1: she can still be an asshole, like you know for sure,

1817
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Um, the one last thing I

1818
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 1: wanted to say about this movie is so it's a

1819
01:45:55,200 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 1: comedy from twenty nineteen, and I think you can tell

1820
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:03,919
Speaker 1: that it's a far like it's a more modern comedy

1821
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 1: compared to comedies of you know, the nineties and early

1822
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 1: in mid two thousands, because, as we've discussed so many times,

1823
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 1: so much of the comedy in comedy movies of those

1824
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 1: eras rely on a lot of punching down humor, yeah,

1825
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 1: whereas this one generally avoids that. The only thing that

1826
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 1: really stuck out for me was a remark that was

1827
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 1: kind of judgmental towards sex workers, where a character says

1828
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 1: something like, oh, would you trust a lawyer that pays

1829
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 1: for sex? And she's like no. There's a little bit

1830
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,720
Speaker 1: of a little bit of body stuff as well. There

1831
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 1: are a few offhand comments about weirdly Sal's body, which

1832
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,040
Speaker 1: is the screenwriter, so I'm guessing that he was okay

1833
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 1: with it, given that he wrote the joke, but whatever,

1834
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 1: there's like a comment about his body. And then there

1835
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:01,799
Speaker 1: is also, like I think, a pretty hardshum and overly

1836
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 1: simplistic reason about why her father died. They were like, well,

1837
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 1: he ate unhealthy and so he died and they're like, well,

1838
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 1: that feels a little you know, overly simplified. But but yeah,

1839
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:14,720
Speaker 1: I mean I mean in terms of like I mean

1840
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 1: even like a movie that would have come out ten

1841
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 1: years earlier, in oh nine, I mean, it's uh pretty

1842
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:25,479
Speaker 1: close to Night and Day. Although you know, there there

1843
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 1: are it's still centered around a white family and most

1844
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 1: people of color are sort of relegated to smaller roles. Um.

1845
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 1: But again, it's it's better than where are we Where

1846
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 1: where we were? Which is another thing where it's like

1847
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 1: I wish people knew about it and saw it when

1848
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 1: it came out, because it would be great to have

1849
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 1: more rompy, funny broad comedies that have like some kind

1850
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 1: of conscience come out, Like it would be cool to

1851
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 1: see those movies do better. So there's more of them,

1852
01:47:56,600 --> 01:48:00,639
Speaker 1: for sure, you know, room for improvement, but also miles

1853
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 1: ahead of what we were exposed to in earlier years. Yeah,

1854
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: does this movie pass the Bechtel test? It super does. Yeah. Yeah,

1855
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 1: there's there's no way around it, folks. It passes about

1856
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 1: it passes handily. Combinations of characters we don't even need

1857
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:23,639
Speaker 1: to break down how many, because it's usually like if

1858
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:26,599
Speaker 1: there are two women in the script. They I believe,

1859
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 1: all are all named, and they all talk to each other.

1860
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:34,599
Speaker 1: So thrill usually about money, usually about money and crimes

1861
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 1: and scams and ethics. And you know, there are conversations

1862
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:41,600
Speaker 1: that reference the boyfriend, the brother, and the father, but

1863
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 1: they are, I would say, in the minority of conversations.

1864
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 1: And now to the only metric that truly matters, the

1865
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:53,840
Speaker 1: nipples scale, Caitlin, what are you giving Buffalo on the

1866
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 1: nipple scale? Um, well, on our scale zero to five nipples,

1867
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 1: where we rate the movie based on looking at it

1868
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 1: through an intersectional feminist lens, I would give this I

1869
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 1: guess like a three and a half because you know,

1870
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 1: like we discussed, it's it's a movie that allows a

1871
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 1: like ethically complicated woman to exist and explore her, like

1872
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:26,720
Speaker 1: all the moral ambiguities that she's dealing with in her

1873
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:30,559
Speaker 1: work and her life, which most stories don't make any

1874
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 1: room for, in a way that like I didn't mention

1875
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 1: this earlier, but it's like, I feel like this could

1876
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 1: be sort of seen as like a girl Boss narrative,

1877
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's only truly a girl Boss

1878
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 1: narrative if the movie is endorsing the crimes which I

1879
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:47,680
Speaker 1: don't think this movie is this like no, so I

1880
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 1: feel like it's, um, it's all it. Yeah, I just

1881
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:53,679
Speaker 1: wish it was like I mean, I wish more people

1882
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: knew about it and hopefully this a little I mean,

1883
01:49:56,280 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 1: this episode is gonna just freaking what a pub felicity

1884
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 1: moment for this movie now that no, I'm kidding, but um,

1885
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 1: I should send us an edible arrangement for this. I

1886
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:12,679
Speaker 1: swear to god, I think you, Zoe, But I think

1887
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:16,599
Speaker 1: because there are like issues with just like it's kind

1888
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 1: of a sloppy script and the characters are extremely cartoonation inconsistent,

1889
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,720
Speaker 1: and there's just some like kind of storytelling things. I

1890
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 1: feel like it won't like stand the test of time

1891
01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:31,599
Speaker 1: the way that like people still revisit movies like Wolf

1892
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 1: of Wall Street and Short and these like male centered premises.

1893
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 1: Unfortunately those movies do fucking sad. Yeah, I know, and

1894
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:46,680
Speaker 1: this one doesn't quite rule quite so hard just from

1895
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 1: like a quality standpoint. So I feel like it'll be

1896
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 1: kind of like yeah, yes, yes, so, but um yeah,

1897
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:57,599
Speaker 1: I'll give it three and a half. Um, I'll give

1898
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:03,880
Speaker 1: one two. Francis, her pal that she met in the

1899
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 1: pen in the clink Wow, I'll give one to so Yeah,

1900
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:13,799
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so cool. I'll give one to Backer,

1901
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 1: the other woman she befriends from prison. Um, I'll give

1902
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:20,799
Speaker 1: one to Judy Greer, and I'll give my half nipple

1903
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:28,520
Speaker 1: to the rotting infested buffalo. Yeah, that was a metaphor

1904
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 1: for something. I was like, Oh, okay, fine, we liked them.

1905
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 1: I'll go three and a half as well. Um. I

1906
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:38,439
Speaker 1: think that this is a movie that's heart in the

1907
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 1: right place. I've never seen a movie like it. I

1908
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 1: agree that the execution is a little all over the place,

1909
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 1: is a little sloppy, but I think I mean, I

1910
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 1: really like the vibe this movie has, which is like

1911
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 1: talking about something that is serious in a lighthearted, rompy way.

1912
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,760
Speaker 1: I feel like that is like super super super the

1913
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 1: best way to or like a really effective way to

1914
01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 1: start conversations like this of like not feeling like you're

1915
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 1: going to a lecture or like you're going to school,

1916
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 1: or even like you're in a fucking cry, but it's

1917
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 1: like you learn about something that affects most people in

1918
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:18,280
Speaker 1: a way that is goofy and fun and accessible. I

1919
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:21,559
Speaker 1: think it's cool. I yeah, like we're just talking about

1920
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 1: I think that like Peg, you know, I'm not always

1921
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 1: rooting for her, but I feel like her predicament is

1922
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 1: contextualized and that her you know, crimes aren't endorsed, but

1923
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 1: we also know why she's doing it. But it also

1924
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:34,560
Speaker 1: isn't like an overly like I am mommy thus I

1925
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: crime kind of thing. I just thought it was cool.

1926
01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 1: I thought the Triman Fowler character was incomprehensible, but that's

1927
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 1: not his fault. He he did his job, but the

1928
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:50,559
Speaker 1: character was so confusing. That Judy grig character was at

1929
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:55,840
Speaker 1: times confusing, like like in terms of who she was

1930
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,760
Speaker 1: and what she was about. But I liked the relationship

1931
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,679
Speaker 1: between I think like this movie, it was at its

1932
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:04,679
Speaker 1: best for me when it was like looking at money

1933
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 1: and um generational stuff and class like that's where it

1934
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 1: really really succeeded. M and I would love to see

1935
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:15,600
Speaker 1: more movies like this and very glad we got to

1936
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 1: cover it. So I'm gonna give it three and a

1937
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 1: half nipples. Uh and I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna give

1938
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:23,559
Speaker 1: one to the rotting buffalo head. I'm gonna give one

1939
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:27,639
Speaker 1: to Jermaine Fowler's dirty underwear. I'm gonna give oh, yes,

1940
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 1: one to the secretary who didn't care about anything, and

1941
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:35,440
Speaker 1: then I'll give my last half to Judy the waitress

1942
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:45,759
Speaker 1: and oh so iconic Danny's it's an American institution, Shelley,

1943
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 1: what do you think? Okay, I'm gonna go with three.

1944
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 1: I do want to say I gave it four and

1945
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:53,880
Speaker 1: a half on a letterbox, but that's just because I

1946
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 1: was just like in such a good mood after watching it.

1947
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:59,800
Speaker 1: Their first people are gonna come for you. This is

1948
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:03,880
Speaker 1: a life change, this is life changing. I was like

1949
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:06,799
Speaker 1: four and a half, but I would do three. One

1950
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:10,840
Speaker 1: it's just for Judy Greer in general, like Judy Greer

1951
01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 1: being a part of this movie in general. The second

1952
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 1: one is because I really like seeing a not so kind,

1953
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:26,839
Speaker 1: super moral girl when it comes to movies about money

1954
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:30,160
Speaker 1: and debt, in collecting money and all that kind of stuff.

1955
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 1: And the third one is for I'm going to say

1956
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 1: the wardrobe. I know that, so Stu, but I know

1957
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 1: it looks in the credible fits are good, So I'm

1958
01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 1: going to say like three total. But I thought it

1959
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 1: was like super great and I really do enjoy that

1960
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,640
Speaker 1: it was. I mean, we keep saying it, but Women's

1961
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 1: History Month, I really do like them. A movie about

1962
01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 1: a girl who's kind of an asshole when it comes

1963
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 1: to money, and she's not. She just wants it. She

1964
01:54:57,520 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 1: wants it to want it. She doesn't want it to

1965
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 1: like sol of World Hunger or to like rebuild the

1966
01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:07,160
Speaker 1: community center or anything like that. She just wants it

1967
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 1: because she wants money. And I really like that. And

1968
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:13,840
Speaker 1: I like what it taught about, like debt and collecting

1969
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 1: and money in general. So three yeah. I love that

1970
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 1: it had like such a clear like mission too, and

1971
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,640
Speaker 1: like that there its main character could still be a

1972
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 1: huge asshole, and I feel like it pulled it off

1973
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 1: the mission. Like I learned shit watching this serie. She

1974
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 1: was a complete jerk, but I did learn stuff. I

1975
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:36,840
Speaker 1: got verified on some information that I already knew that

1976
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 1: was very happy about, which made me want to tell

1977
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:43,120
Speaker 1: people about it even more. And I also think that

1978
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 1: Zoe's just a really good actress. I think she's just

1979
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 1: like good at what she does. I think she's pretty

1980
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 1: talented too, But I dug it, I really like it.

1981
01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 1: I can't believe I learned so much about Buffalo's and Wings.

1982
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 1: What the fuck? It was so fun to watch your

1983
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:05,520
Speaker 1: people in real time by that, You're like, it literally was.

1984
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 1: I haven't had that feel like it's so because I

1985
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 1: was not attached to that. It was the greatest. Shelly,

1986
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, Thank you for

1987
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 1: bringing us this movie. Um, if you're if you're looking

1988
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 1: to watch it, it's on It's on Hulu. It's easy,

1989
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 1: it's accessible Ulu. Yes, and Shelley, where can we follow

1990
01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 1: your work and follow you online? Plug away? I gotta

1991
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:32,840
Speaker 1: hate this part. I'm so hate part. I'm going to

1992
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 1: be great at this part. Um. But I'm on Twitter.

1993
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 1: Hi Shelley on Twitter, and then I'm on Instagram. Ao Shelley,

1994
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:42,520
Speaker 1: A y O s h e O I, and then Hi,

1995
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 1: Hi s h e I on Twitter. Usually i just

1996
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 1: share all my work there on Twitter, and I'm always

1997
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 1: like having some discourse that I'm not really invited into.

1998
01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 1: But or I try to start it and then I

1999
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:59,080
Speaker 1: it happens and then I just leave and then you Yeah,

2000
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 1: I love to start a conversation on the mute. It's

2001
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:03,120
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things to do to start it

2002
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:04,720
Speaker 1: and then be like, oh, I don't want to be

2003
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 1: here anymore. This was just a passing thought about this movie.

2004
01:57:07,560 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 1: I've actually fucked this by everybody, and you're like, actually,

2005
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 1: see you the fuck later. I don't want to talk

2006
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: about this anymore. I've been a huge must. Most recently,

2007
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on a Eurovision. I love Eurovision, and so

2008
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm like trying. I'm mostly talking about Eurovision on Twitter

2009
01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:33,160
Speaker 1: right now because I've personally ranked all thirty seven songs.

2010
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 1: Oh you're that kind of on Twitter right now? I am,

2011
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 1: and I personally have ranked all thirty seven songs and um,

2012
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's great. But that's mainly where I'm at.

2013
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm never leaving Twitter, I even want it explodes. I

2014
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:52,640
Speaker 1: will probably still be there in the ruins talking about

2015
01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 1: some movie that no one's ever seen, like Buffalo. So me,

2016
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:59,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I truly think of I'm like, we're

2017
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 1: like the Bad going to with the Titanic. You're like,

2018
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 1: look we are, We're two brain damaged to not be there,

2019
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:09,200
Speaker 1: So it is that it is. We're guys, stay here.

2020
01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 1: And I also love that you worked in a Titanic

2021
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 1: reference like oh, right under the wire. Right had to

2022
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:22,080
Speaker 1: make it happen. Thank you for having me. I love

2023
01:58:22,120 --> 01:58:24,000
Speaker 1: the Big Back, and I'll be back to talk about

2024
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 1: job Breaker please. Ye. So excited. We're so overdue for

2025
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 1: a job breaker episode, so we'll have you then, yay.

2026
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 1: And you can follow us on social media Instagram, Twitter,

2027
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 1: at Bechtelcast. You can go to our Matreon at patreon

2028
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:45,920
Speaker 1: dot com slash Bectelcast, where you'll get two bonus episodes

2029
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:51,520
Speaker 1: every month. This month, we are wrapping up movies directed

2030
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:55,960
Speaker 1: by women, so we covered big and we've got the

2031
01:58:56,120 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 1: Virgin suicidide as well, so you've got you've got change

2032
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:03,240
Speaker 1: on the Matreon this month. Oh and uh, you can

2033
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 1: check out our merch store at tpublic dot com slash

2034
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:12,480
Speaker 1: the Bechdel Cast. And with that, uh, don't pay your

2035
01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 1: debt to do crime and don't pay your debt, never

2036
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 1: pay your bills. Bye bye