1 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome my favorite murder the miniso to read 2 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: you the stories that you send us, and I keep. 3 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: Air drying my hair. So what you're hearing now it 4 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: sounds so smooth and silky, but what you're seeing. 5 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: Or a mess. But this is the chill episode. I 6 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: feel like this is the easy like lightlift episode. 7 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: Is this the clean girl makeup episode? 8 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: No, I've been like hometowns just feel like, do we 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: have to be so perfect all the time, not like 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: in the regular episodes where we're. 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: Where it's on it eh, caroling it. This is a 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: nice concise one to kick it off. The subject line 13 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: is classic hometown and badass Grandpa, and it says it 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: just goes right into it. My grandpa Ray was and 15 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: I'll always will be a total badass and my hero 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: Ray Boom. I could write stories for days, But my 17 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: favorite was the time that he casually told me he 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: spent part of his childhood alongside an infamous killer. Grandpa 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: grew up in the holler of Brush Mountain in Blacksburg, Virginia, 20 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: where I was born and raised. He once told me 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 2: about a boy who lived up the same road in quotes, 22 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: a different fella, he said, who had a glass eye. 23 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,639 Speaker 2: The boy's mama was a sex worker, and his daddy. 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: I bet that's not how her Grandpa said. 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: He did not use those words. 26 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: The boy's mama was a sex worker and his daddy 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: didn't have any legs. Grandpa added, almost as an afterthought, 28 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: that the fellow went on to kill women out west 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: and confessed to many other murders. I immediately called bullshit 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: on Grandpa. That's when my mom chimed in, No, it's true. 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: That's right. 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: Grandpa grew up alongside Henry Lee Lucas, the confession killer. 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: Holy shit, Henry Lee Lucas was his neighborhood kid. 34 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: Noo. Grandpa ra to wait ten years ago, but I 35 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: treasure the twenty six years I got to spend with 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: him and the many stories he shared. I would love 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: to hear Grandpa wrote holler stories, absolutely, especially that one 38 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: in particular. Sure, stay sexy, and don't be too quick 39 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: to call bullshit on Grandpa, Amy and. 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: Immediate bullshit on Grandpa like I would never have the 41 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: gualt called bullshit on a grandpa. 42 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: That's how these kids are these days, true, these gen 43 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: z ers, that's right, they yearn for justice. 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: Okay, this is called one hour Photo for good. If 45 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: you're actually reading this, I am so grateful to this 46 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: podcast and everyone who makes it happen. I have been 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: a listener since twenty sixteen. Hey, your podcast talked me 48 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: off the ledge the morning after the election that year. 49 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: Can you believe we thought that was the worst that 50 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: could happen. 51 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: Damn. 52 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: You've been my friends and traveling companions through so much, 53 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: giving me laughter, through breast cancer, divorce, pet loss and 54 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: empty nest, and so much more. I appreciate you, ladies, 55 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: and count you as sisters. Oh my god, No, but 56 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: I want to tell you about something that happened when 57 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: I was nineteen. It was nineteen eighty nine and I 58 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: had dropped out of college. Concerned about my well being. 59 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: My older brother invited me to move from my home 60 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: state of Kentucky down to League City, Texas. 61 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: Big baseball town, a lot of league, a lot of 62 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: baseball leagues, a lot of leagues, measurements under the seat, 63 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 64 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: That is a whole nother story. I quickly got a 65 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: job at a one hour photo lab in friends would 66 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: Texas just up the inner state one exit. My sister 67 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: worked at a one hour photo place when she was 68 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: in high school at she saw some shit. Awesome, Yeah, 69 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: we all saw. We all got to see some shits. 70 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: It was a busy one hour lab and a big mall. 71 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: There were regulars with rolls of film chronicling their lives. 72 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: Do you remember disc cameras in stematics. These took terrible pictures? 73 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah they did, did they? 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: Me and my sister got them for Christmas one year 75 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: from Aunt Mannon and they came in this big It 76 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: was almost like an unboxing box. It came in this 77 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: big box. It was such a big deal presentation, but 78 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 2: it felt like they were cameras made for to give 79 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: kids a camera and be like, here, go take some pictures. 80 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: And that's what all. 81 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: Everything was like from a down here perspective, like downward 82 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: going up right? Yeah? This okay? These two terrible pictures. 83 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: But then there was the thirty five millimeter film in 84 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: twelve twenty four or thirty six frame rolls. Oh I 85 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: should know that my sister's now a photographer. 86 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: I was going to say, did Lee learn it at 87 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: the photo development line? 88 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: Since high school? She's been doing it. Oh yeah, she's dedicated. Okay. 89 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: Most people got single or double prints, except for a 90 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: regular customer who came in about once a week dropped 91 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: off a role for film processing. Only he would be 92 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: back on the hour to pick up the film. He 93 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: asked us to keep the whole role intact, placed in 94 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: a special clear plastic sleeve, then rolled, and then put 95 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: back into the paper bag. So I feel like we 96 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: need to explain to some children that are listening. 97 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, instead of. 98 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: Getting the film developed into actual photos, you would just 99 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: get them turned into film so you could go home 100 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: in your own dark room and develop them yourself. Yeah, 101 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: meaning no one would see the film at the one 102 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: hour photostore. See, I didn't know that. I'm learning with 103 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: the children. Okay, I didn't realize that was like getting 104 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: a thing to then go home and do it himself 105 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: instead of Yeah, He's like, you have to take the 106 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: first two steps for me because I don't have like 107 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: the chemicals or something. Sure, I don't know. 108 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 2: Okay, that's all I know. All he's saying is what's 109 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: happening on this film is illegal. 110 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: Totally, and I don't look at it. 111 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 112 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: My boss, a no nonsense native Texan a year older 113 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: than me named Lisa, stopped me the first time I 114 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: processed a role of his film. She took the role, 115 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: looked at it on the light table, quickly printed a 116 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: few frames. The date was automatically printed on the back 117 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: of each print. The pictures would go through the machine 118 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: in a long strip, coming down a conveyor belt to 119 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: be packaged that people in the mall could watch the 120 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: stream of images. She covered the conveyor when his went through. Oh, 121 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: she's going clandestine. 122 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: Lisa knows exactly what's happening here, and she's going to 123 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: do something about it. 124 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: I love this one because I remember every single old 125 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: like boss or coworker I had from when I was 126 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: stupid at nineteen sure instead of stupid and forty five 127 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: that like taught me so much about life. They were 128 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: like so no nonsense. 129 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: Yes. Well, also because they were the holders and like 130 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: they were the rule followers, as the example, so when 131 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: they were breaking rules, you were like, wait, what's happening now, 132 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: Like the waitress had passed my mom the aspirn where 133 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: it's like, we don't know why this is the rule. 134 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: Your child is a headache. I'm going to give you 135 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: totally and I trust you to make that decision on 136 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: your own. Yes, okay. When she handed me the printed pictures. 137 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: I saw images of him, a dumpy, middle aged man 138 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: in states of getting nude in an empty classroom. The 139 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: pictures went into a package she kept in her desk. Okay, weird. 140 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: She instructed me to print samples from his film whenever 141 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: he came in. Sometimes his wife would drop off the film. 142 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: Then one fateful day, he brought in a role that 143 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: included a girl elementary age sitting at a school desk 144 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: looking down writing seemingly and I hope honestly unaware that 145 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: he was several rose back behind her with his pants 146 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: around his ankles. My badass twenty year old boss printed 147 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: every frame on that role. Then she called the FBI, 148 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: and after that our district manager, Yes Lisa. 149 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: Lisa was like, I'm not messing with the local cop. No, 150 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: this is a federal case. 151 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: I have them on speed Dialuck, I've never seen that 152 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: kind of calm. Sure, get this shit dealt with self 153 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: confidence before. He and his wife who held the camera, 154 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: who held the camera, so they were doing it together. 155 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: I didn't see that. We're arrested and went to jail. 156 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: He lost his teaching license. I don't know where Lisa 157 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: is now, but I'm sure she's doing good. Bet you. 158 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for reading Heather. 159 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: Especially in a time like this. We we are now 160 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: just up to our eyeballs in this nightmare Epstein file bullshit, 161 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: which is like just this kind of stuff that's been 162 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: like brushed under the carpet and heading away for years. Yep, yeah, 163 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: made smaller whatever. It's just like Lisa's been fighting the 164 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: good fight totally since eighty nine. 165 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: I mean that's yeah. Come on, tell us your stories 166 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: about the older kid that you knew that was a 167 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: fucking badass, that gave you the courage to also be 168 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: a badass. 169 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: Yes, right, your example, your example like lateeen, Yeah. 170 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: My favorite murder at Gmail. Yeah, goodnue, And send them in. 171 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: Literally, I thought you were like, do you have Epstein stories? 172 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: Just send us. 173 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: That's not funny. 174 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 2: That's not funny at all, And that's how we do 175 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: things over here. 176 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: Send those to the FBI call in. 177 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not going to read you the subject line 178 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: it says, hello, badass MFM podcast family. I grew up 179 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: in the same house that my mother was raised in, 180 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: which was built by my great grandfather after they emigrated 181 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: from Italy in the nineteen forties. Come on, abundanza. 182 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: Sorry, Leana, every time you say Italy, you have to 183 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: touch the italy, do. 184 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 2: It, lily? Okay. My grandmother purchased it from her parents 185 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: and eventually sold it to my mother when I was 186 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: maybe twelve. At that point, my grandmother moved upstairs and 187 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: my parents commissioned Hella construction to make sure I missed 188 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: that first time. Hella construction to make sure that she 189 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: was comfortable in what would become a finished mother daughter apartment. 190 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: Because I was twelve and my parents wanted to make 191 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: me feel better about the whole move, they promised to 192 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: renovate one of the bedrooms for me too, which involved 193 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: knocking out a wall and building out the foundation of 194 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: the house. The whole bedroom ended up being larger than 195 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: my first studio apartment. Jesus nice. Here's the thing. My 196 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: great grandfather was in cement. His son, my great uncle, 197 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: followed suit more or less in the cement business. 198 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. 199 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: I know. 200 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: Sorry, I buried under the house in cement. 201 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 2: I actually wasn't sure. 202 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: I had to in cement contact. 203 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, my mother said, with quotes around Yea, So 204 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: here we go. My mother said that when she was 205 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: a kid Uncle Charlie would come to the house at 206 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: all sorts of weird hours with weird people and weird things. 207 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: One of her more memorable stories involved him showing up 208 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 2: just before their bedtime with a life size statue of 209 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 2: Saint Jude, which he took from a church that was 210 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: being renovated because they were throwing it up. Saint Jude 211 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: still lives in my parents' basement because everyone's afraid it's 212 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: the only thing bringing good juju into the house at 213 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: this point, a full size statue, I don't think you 214 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 2: can throw away, like, no, thank your reliquary unless it 215 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 2: thank you right. Sorry, I really had to bust that 216 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: one out. God, it's so rare that a word comes 217 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: into my head anymore. 218 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: That one really was good waiting holding onto that. I've 219 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: never even heard that word, that's how good it was. 220 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so proud of my fucked up brain. Okay, yeah, 221 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: I don't think they'd just throw out statues because they're 222 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: redoing the place. Yeah, this style has been pretty similar 223 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: since about fifteen ninety. I would guess. Okay, my parents' 224 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: basement is still a treasure trove of what the fuck? 225 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 2: Because my grandmother was a hoarder, and it's taken more 226 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: than five years to clear out all her stuff. My 227 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: grandmother's second husband collected guns, and they knew my grandmother 228 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: had held onto an antique pearl handled pistol, but these 229 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: weren't pretty collectibles. That particular closet backs up to the attic, 230 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: which is accessible through a creepy little door in the 231 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: back wall, and something told my parents to investigate further. Well. 232 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: After a week end of deep diving through support beams 233 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: and insulation, they found upwards of a dozen firearms hidden 234 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: in the attic, including models that are very illegal to own. 235 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: They have no idea how long they'd been there, who 236 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: originally own them, or why my grandmother. 237 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: Was hiding them. But that's not the story I'm really 238 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: emailing about. What Yeah, sorry, not talking about that. It 239 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: says several years later, I was visiting my parents for 240 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: a weekend and we were sitting around the table after 241 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: lunch talking about some weird dreams we'd had. My mother 242 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: made a reference to the hidden attic guns, saying she 243 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: felt like there was an another gun hidden somewhere and 244 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 2: dreamed about it often. In her dreams. It was buried 245 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 2: in the backyard or sometimes the side garden. She said 246 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: something about the cement used to pour the walkway, and 247 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: my dad's face went totally white. He was noticeably uncomfortable, 248 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: and when we asked what was wrong, he just asked, 249 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: if I break a promise to someone who's dead, will 250 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: they come back and haunt you. My dad has always 251 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: been a pretty straightforward guy. My mother's family is old 252 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: school Italian superstitious, but my dad not so much so 253 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: old school Italian suing, so this was kind of a 254 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: weird question to ask at the lunch table. At this point, 255 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: all the alarm bells in my mother's head are going off, 256 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: and she demands to know what he's talking about. After 257 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: a few minutes of sweating and dodging questions, he tells 258 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: us this story. When my parents were building the addition 259 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: to the house, they hired a friend of my great 260 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: uncles to do the construction. The plan was to build 261 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: a new living room where the concrete porch used to be, 262 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: but when they went to dig it up, they found 263 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: it went down way further than was structurally necessary and 264 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 2: decided the best idea was just to use that as 265 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: the foundation. That meant matching the depth. When they poured 266 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: the foundation for my new bedroom. The morning they scheduled 267 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: the concrete pour, my grandmother called my dad upstairs and 268 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: handled him a bundle of sheets. Give this to the guys. 269 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: She told him they'll know what to do with it, 270 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: and whatever you do, don't tell your wife. My dad 271 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: did as he was told and handed the bundle to 272 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: my great uncle's friend, who unwrapped it just enough to 273 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: see the handgun inside and just gave it a nod 274 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: before setting it into the cement. 275 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 276 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: So aside from finding out that my childhood bedroom was 277 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: built over a hidden handgun, we also realized that if 278 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: my grandmother had been cool with hiding some dozen guns 279 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: in the attic, this particular gun must have been responsible 280 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: for some atrocious shit. If it needed to be hidden 281 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: forever in a foundation, it was hot, it was hot, 282 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 2: and potentially connected to it international murder mafia. Gotta say, 283 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: if I'm ever in trouble, I'm going to my dad 284 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: for help, because he immediately forgot all about the incident 285 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 2: and was never even tempted to tell my mother until 286 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 2: that exact day when she had had the dream that 287 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: there was a gun somewhere on the pop room if 288 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: this ends up getting read on a miniso, thanks for 289 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: sharing in my ruined childhood. Stay sexy and don't get murdered. Faith. Wow, Faith, 290 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: that's a very sopranos email. 291 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: It's a meadow. 292 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: It could be send signed Meadow your friend Meadow. 293 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: Okay, my mom fucked politeness at the laundromat. Hey, y'all, 294 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: that's all I have in me, So that's all I 295 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: have in me for an intro, So let's jump in. 296 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: Sounds good there. 297 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: When I was in middle school, my parents were remodeling 298 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: our house and we didn't have a laundry room for 299 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: over a year and had to do all of our 300 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: laundry at the local laundromats. I always went with my 301 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: mom to hang out for a few hours while the 302 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: clothes washed and dried. All the other customers were always kind, 303 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: usually women and kids hanging out. One day, while we 304 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: were loading up the laundry and supplies into the back 305 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: of the vehicle, a man stopped my mom. He had 306 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: been sitting outside in the Alabama heat the whole time 307 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: we were there. I didn't stop and went to sit 308 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: in the car, but I heard him ask her for 309 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: a ride to a local motel. I heard my mom say, sir, 310 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: you know I can't do that, and shot her eyes 311 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: over to me. Next I knew my mom was at 312 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: my door telling me to shut it and lock it. 313 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: I was being a bratty teen and said no because 314 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: it was hot and she hadn't started the car yet, 315 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: just like leaning with the door open. She said, through 316 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: gritted teeth, shut the door. Now. I probably rolled my 317 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: eyes and crossed my arms after shutting the door because 318 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: I was and then dramatic. She was a little upset 319 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: with me when she got in, but then we drove 320 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: home like normal. When we got home, my mom told 321 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: my dad about the conversation with the man, including the 322 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: parts I didn't see. The man had lifted his shirt 323 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: to show a gun in his waistband and told her 324 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: that he would keep us safe. So I can't drive you. 325 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm scared. I'll keep you safe. I'll keep don't have 326 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: a gun, I'll keep you safe. 327 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: It's me, the strange man would the gun. I'll keep 328 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: it in my waistband. Yeah. 329 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: After she told the man no again, he threw his 330 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: flip phone at the brick wall of the laundromat in anger. 331 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: She also told my dad about how I wouldn't shut 332 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: the door, and he got upset with me too. But 333 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: as a parent myself, now I understand their reactions were 334 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: out of fear. Safe to say, our washer dryer were 335 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: installed that week and we never went back to the 336 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: laundromat again. I'll never know what intentions that man had, 337 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: but I'm glad my mom fucked politeness and kept us safe. 338 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: She is such a strong woman, and I hope I 339 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: am showing my kids a fraction of the strength and 340 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: determination she has. Her name is Tara pronounced Tara, Stay 341 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: sexy and shut the car door when your mom asks. 342 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: Ambria pronounced Ambria. Oh nice, read that name before. It's 343 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: pretty Feel free to use my name. Love you guys 344 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: and all that you do. 345 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,359 Speaker 2: Ambria. Here's what I love that you're like. I understand 346 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: that she was saying that to me out of fear. 347 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: It's like, do you understand that you need to be 348 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: a team player? And if the person that knows more 349 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: than you and is smarter than you and been around 350 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: so much longer than you comes up and tells you 351 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: to do a thing the door with a certain kind 352 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: of energy, maybe focus on that. 353 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: Teens have no clue they're like equally the best people 354 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: in the world and the worst people in the world 355 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: at the same time. 356 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 357 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's not fair in a lot of ways 358 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: because you're the youngest old person, so you're the dumbest 359 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: old person, right Usually, Yeah, but in those situations where 360 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: it's just like. 361 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: I just wish she had done a full like I 362 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: should have listened to my mom the first time and 363 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 2: had some spatial awareness. Instead, it's like I understand she 364 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: was working out of fear. Like there was that guy. 365 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: Okay, I love yelling, so you know we're talking about. Hey, 366 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: sometimes it's the kid's fault. Okay, sometimes it's the parent's fault. Okay, 367 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: as we well know, I'm not going to read you 368 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: the subject line. It just says, hi, fellow murder loving people. Again, 369 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: we don't love murder. 370 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: It was summer of two thousand and five and I 371 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: was eight years old when we took a family vacation 372 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 2: Tea and San Francisco. While in San fran we got 373 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: a boat tour that took us past Alcatraz and to 374 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: some other island close by. What is that Marin Treasure Island. 375 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it depends on where they were going. I 376 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: don't remember there being a two island stop for the 377 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: Alcatraz tour, but I haven't been there Alcatraz too. 378 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 2: It's smaller and hipper, and there's a disco. There's an 379 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: amazing night life on Alcatraz two. Okay. My dad was 380 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 2: really nervous that I was going to get seasick, so 381 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: he gave me three dramamine and we bordered the boat. 382 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: Turns out that the serving size of dramamine for an 383 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: eight year old is half a pill, so I was 384 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: knocked the fuck out. My dad happens to be a fireman, 385 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 2: Oh my god, and it says he's retired. No, this 386 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: is so classic. So he walked around the island Alcatraz 387 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: with my sleeping eight year old body thrown over his 388 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: shoulder in a fireman's carry. So can I just stop 389 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: here to tell you this? And this is the most 390 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: villaged dad life thing I will ever tell you, which 391 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: is that at night when we were little, my dad, 392 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: you could do the fireman's carry, You could do sack 393 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: of potatoes, or you could ride a horse to bed. 394 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: Those are the three ways we got carried to bed. 395 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: And you gotta pick which one. 396 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so cute. So fireman's you're just bent over 397 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: his shoulder, your stomach a little bit. Yeah, it's not 398 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: that fun sack of potatoes. He's holding you by your ankles. 399 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: And you're behind Oh my god. 400 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: But then the horse. You got on on back and 401 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: put your hand over his mouth to feed the horse, 402 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: and he ran down the hallway and threw you on 403 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: the bed. 404 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: Can you do it? Can I have that? 405 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 2: I mean no, he can only do it verbally fun times. 406 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: That's all. 407 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 2: The physical isn't there with him anymore. But it was. 408 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: Laura and I talk about it sometimes we're like, that 409 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: might be the greatest privilege. 410 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, having a firefighter dad, Oh my god. 411 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 2: So that's I think this one gets me, especially because 412 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 2: he just basically like every fireman's like, we're just going 413 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: to solve this problem. Just fucking here. 414 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 1: Next time Vince's brother is in town, I'm gonna ask 415 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: him to carry me like a secota. 416 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: You could do. I'll take second tails or a horse, right, okay. 417 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: So he would occasionally stop and wake me up to 418 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: eat ice cream and drink water with my eyes closed. 419 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: My mom and brother took normal pictures and occasionally included me. 420 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: Weekend of Bernie's steyle. 421 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: You a picture I could see of a picture. Oh 422 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: my god, Oh my god. 423 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: It's the best picture too. The only thing that I 424 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: actually remember about that day is waking up on a 425 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: park bench next to a dog wearing sunglasses. 426 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: Oh she's awaken it. Oh my god, that's her way. 427 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 2: She woke up. At the end of all that was like, Hey, 428 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: that is yes I've ever seen Wow. 429 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: Wow. 430 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: Also, my dad swears he didn't accidentally drug me, and 431 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: that I was just super tired from camping in Yosemite 432 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 2: the week prior. Like, yeah, cheers to the dads that 433 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: keep our lives interesting and create great memories, even if 434 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 2: they're only remembered in photographs. Also, I just completed my 435 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: advanced certificate in crime andalysis. I also that girl digester 436 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 2: from the park bench. I also have my bachelor's degree 437 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: in textile science, and I'm hoping to end up in 438 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: some sort of crime scene analysis textile forensic science situation. 439 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: Someone once told me that at the FBI, it is 440 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: someone's job to go up to crime scenes and analyze 441 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: duct tape and plastic bags that were used in crimes. 442 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: So maybe that cheers to unique career paths and Thank 443 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: you guys for being such great advocates for these victims 444 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: and their families. You're both part of the reason why 445 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: I decided to go back to school and the hopes 446 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: of using my niche knowledge on textiles and other materials 447 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: in order to help find evidence and build a case 448 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: and then advocate and fight for those who no longer 449 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 2: can and bring justice to them and their loved ones. 450 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god, stay sexy and always remember to buy 451 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 2: the non drowsy meds and then call your dad. Xoxo, Lizzy, Ah, Lizzy, 452 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: isn't that the best? 453 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: That's the best? How am I going to fall? Okay? 454 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: I have one more? 455 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: Do you have a dog in sunglasses at the end? No? 456 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: And that dog you can all. He's a private investigator too, right. 457 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: That dog knows more than he's He's actually undercover as 458 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: a stoner. 459 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: Okay, this is an inheritance of trash parenting. Hello, you're 460 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: all great, let's go. I said in a story about 461 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: the time my dad discovered I was scared of his 462 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: basement and decided that telling me there was a man 463 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: with machetes down there would be the best way to 464 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: make me not scared. 465 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: That's why we didn't read that email is because that's 466 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 2: just child abuse. 467 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: It's as it kind of worked. From then on, he 468 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: signed all of my Christmas and Birthday presents in shaky 469 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: handwriting from the man in the basement with the machetes. 470 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: I don't get it. Felt like it was a joke, 471 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: but I don't get it. 472 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 2: It's not that funny. It's kind of hilarious. It's the 473 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: the horror of like there's just so many people loose 474 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: with children making these independent decisions. 475 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: I'm going to pretend like he said it in a 476 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: like hilarious way, like, Oh, don't worry about the basement, 477 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: it's just a man. 478 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: Maybe, Like the trying to follow it up with funny 479 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: jokes is like I really scared her that one time, 480 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 2: and now I'm really trying to lighten the right, lighten 481 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: the mood. 482 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: Who knows. I bring this up to excuse one of 483 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: my trash parenting moments in my early thirties, I took 484 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: my four young children Jesus two Astoria, Oregon, because there 485 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: was a tartist in an arcade and they loved Doctor Who. 486 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: While there, I desperately wanted to look at some of 487 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: the downtown art galleries, so gathered my children and inform 488 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: them all that we were going to look with our eyes, 489 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: not with our hands. It doesn't work because the shopkeepers 490 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: have machetes under the counter to chop off the hands 491 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: of people who touch the art in her devents. Four 492 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: fucking kids. 493 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: By any means necessary. First of all, but I'm so sorry. 494 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 2: I just didn't think it was going to loop around 495 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: like that. 496 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: We go into the first shop and my four year 497 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: old walks right up to the older woman working there 498 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: and asks her if she has a machete. 499 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 2: The woman look. 500 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: Confused and asked, why would I have a machete, sweetie. 501 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: My daughter looked directly into the woman's eyes and made 502 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: a chopping motion with her hand to her other arm. 503 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: Yes. 504 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: The woman looked horrified. A four year old I felt 505 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: my face go bright right with shame. My ten year 506 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: old daughter rushed forward and said, we're okay. Our family 507 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: just has a dark sense of humor. Then she steered 508 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: us all out of the gallery. We spent the rest 509 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: of the time outside until we went home. I asked 510 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: my children if they remember this, and none of them did, 511 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: but they all got a good laugh. Stay sexy and 512 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: don't resort to baseless machete threats to get your children 513 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: to act right or do cow. 514 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: Because they work so well, Kel, you gotta admit it solightful. 515 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: In ten years, we're going to get an email from 516 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: the ten year old who's a parent who says they 517 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: used it and it didn't go well. 518 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: The ten year old is going to be like a 519 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 2: world class artist, or it's like, have you seen my 520 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 2: machete sculptures? This was my I just love machette. I 521 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 2: love them and this was an inspirational day. Mmmm. 522 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: Okay everyone, I think that like people who are watching 523 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: on Netflix maybe don't know what we're doing when we 524 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: should have maybe said it earlier. But send us your 525 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: any kind of story that you have that you think 526 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: fits with the true crime comedy weird podcast to my 527 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: favorite murder at Gmail. 528 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's kind of explained, but it's like 529 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 2: it's just mail bag. So yeah, we very early on 530 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: heard back from our audience so much about so many things. 531 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: We're like, let's get this out there. 532 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, we needed an episode just for your stories, so 533 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: we did that. 534 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: So join us. 535 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, and stay sexy and don't get murdered. 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