1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with the latest on the effort to 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: end the war in Ukraine. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski says 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 3: he has an agreement with the US to make security 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 3: guarantees legally binding through a vote in Congress as part 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: of a deal to end the war with Russia. Zelenski 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: expects the US to consult next with Russia, while Ukrainian 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 3: negotiators may return to America for weekend talks. President Trump 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 3: says the conflict is nearing resolution. 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 4: I think we're closer now, and they will tell you 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 4: that they're closer now. We had numerous conversations with President 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 4: Putin of Russia, and I think we're closer now than 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 4: we have been ever. 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: President Trump made those remarks after he talked to a 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: gathering of European leaders yesterday hosted by German Chancellor Friedrich Meritz. 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: Now to the latest on the death of actor director 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 2: Rob Reiner. Nathan, the Hollywood Icon's son is being held 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: this morning in the stabbing deaths of his father and mother, 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: Michelle Singer Reiner in their Brentwood home. Here's Los Angeles 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,919 Speaker 2: Police Chief Jim McDonald. 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 5: Nick Reiner a suspect in this case. 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 4: He was subsequently booked for murder and is being held. 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 2: LA Police Chief Jim McDonald says prosecutors will decide charges 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: for Nick Reiner later today. He's being held without bail. 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: Rob Rinder's death has led to an outpouring of tributes 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: in the entertainment and political worlds. Reiner was a longtime 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: donor to democratic and liberal causes. President Trump is reacting 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: to Reiner's death with scorn. 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: I wasn't a fan of his at all. He was 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 4: a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned. 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: President Trump spoke after he claimed on social media that 34 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: Reiner died of quote Trump derangement syndrome that sparked backlash 35 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: from some of the president's fellow Republicans. Conservative commentator Eric 36 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: Ericson drews with Republican calls for civility after the death 37 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk. 38 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Karen the Manheunt continues this morning for the shooter 39 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: in the mass shooting at Brown University. The shock over 40 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: the rampage that killed two students and wounded nine others, 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: is giving way to frustration over the investigation. A person 42 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: of interest who has detained over the weekend has been released, 43 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: and police and Providence, Rhode Island have yet to name 44 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: any new suspect. Since Talia Levine is a student at Brown. 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 6: Overall, the sentiment amongst students has just been deep rooted 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 6: distress and fear that this could happen in a place 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 6: that we consider so safe in our home. 48 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 3: Brown's student Talia Levine, spoke as police released three more 49 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: videos and two photos of a suspect wearing dark clothing, 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: a cap and a face mask. Here's Rhode Island Governor 51 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: Daniel McKee. 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 7: We want to make sure that all Rhode Islanders know 53 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 7: that everything is physically possible is being done and partnering 54 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 7: in with our federal the FBI, our state law enforcement, 55 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 7: and also the local law enforcement to bring an individual 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 7: and identify and bring that person to justice. 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 3: Governor Daniel McKee and other officials have said there's no 58 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: clear security camera footage from the building where the shooting 59 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: took place, and that has hampered the search. The FBI 60 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: is offering fifty thousand dollars for information that leads to 61 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: an arrest and conviction. 62 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: Well, Nathan, let's get the latest now and the terror 63 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: attack in Australia. Authority say early indications point the attack, 64 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: which killed at least fifteen people at a Bondai Beach 65 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 2: Honika celebration, was inspired by the Islamic State. Again, more 66 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: on the information on the father and son attackers from 67 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Angus Whitley in Sydney. 68 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 8: They did travel to the Philippines last month, though it's 69 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 8: not clear what they did there or where specifically they went. 70 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 8: But they have found too homemade ISIS flags in a 71 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 8: car they suspectly belonged to the two gunmen. And that's 72 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 8: pretty much all they're willing to say. But in the 73 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 8: in the update in the press conference this afternoon, they 74 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 8: were really bombarded and want with questions because there's so 75 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 8: many unanswered questions about the response to antisemitism, about the 76 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 8: police presence. There was heavy enough for security. 77 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: Heavy enough, and Bloomberg's Angus Whitley says. Labor Prime Minister 78 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: Anthony Albinisi rejected criticism of his handling of escalating attacks, 79 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: while urging Australians to rally around the Jewish community well Karin. 80 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: The US military has attacked three more alleged drug boats, 81 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 3: killing a total of eight people. US Southern Command says 82 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 3: the strikes were carried out in the Eastern Pacific at 83 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 3: the direction of Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. The operation has 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: raised questions about whether the strikes violate international law and 85 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 3: whether the boats were actually carrying Fentanel Nathan. 86 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: President Trump is suing the BBC for at least ten 87 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: billion dollars over what he claims was a misleading edit 88 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: in their documentary last year. The Eddie gave the impression 89 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: the President made a direct call for violence in his 90 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: speech ahead of the attack on the US Capitol on 91 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 2: January sixth, twenty twenty one. Bloomberg'sy went Pos reports from. 92 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 5: London donalds on Stephan. 93 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 9: Lawsuit against the BBC was filed yesterday in federal court 94 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 9: in Miami. The US President says he's suing the broadcaster 95 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 9: for quote putting words in my mouth. The Panorama documentary 96 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 9: made it appear that Trump told his supporters they should 97 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 9: walk down to the Capitol and fight like hell. In fact, 98 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 9: he said they should cheer on our brave senators and congressmen. 99 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 10: And women. 100 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 9: The fight like hell remark was from a much later 101 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 9: part of the speech. Trump's lawyer claims the incident is 102 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 9: part of the BBC's long standing pattern of manipulating President 103 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 9: Trump's speeches. The BBC has previously apologized the President but 104 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 9: rejected his demands for compensation, saying there is no basis 105 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 9: for a defamation claim. In London, I'm you in parts 106 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 9: Bloomberg Radio. 107 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: Okay you and thank you. Let's turn now to the 108 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: markets and the economy. Futures are lower ahead of some 109 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: key economic data. Along awaited November jobs report that was 110 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: not released on time due to the government shutdown finally 111 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: comes out this morning. We get a preview now from 112 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 113 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 11: This Job's report will be a bear for investors accustomed 114 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 11: to making snap trades when the data are released. The 115 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 11: usual bed is on the change in jobs and unemployment 116 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 11: compared with expectations and the last release. But the last 117 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 11: payrolls data we have is from September and we'll only 118 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 11: get half of the October release. The household survey with 119 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 11: unemployment figures will be missing because the data couldn't be collected. 120 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 11: Add to that, uncertainty about government employment after doze firings 121 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 11: and the government shutdown, that'll make analyzing the combined two 122 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 11: month report difficult. Still, it will be data, and it 123 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 11: will get a lot of attention on Wall Street, although 124 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 11: the FED will likely put much more weight on this 125 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 11: month's numbers. Reported on January ninth, Michael McKee Bloomberg. 126 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: Radio, all right, Michael, thank you, and company news. Ford 127 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: Motor Company is taking nineteen and a half billion dollars 128 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: in charges as it pulls back sharply from electric vehicles. 129 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: The company says it overbuilt battery capacity and underestimated how 130 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: hard it would be to make evs profitable. As part 131 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: of the shift, the automaker is canceling a planned electric 132 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: F series truck while shifting production toward gas and hybrid vehicles. 133 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: Fords CEO Jim Farley spoke to Bloomberg. 134 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 12: It was really the customer changing their decision. You know, 135 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 12: we saw hybrid's really take off last couple of years, 136 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 12: Like you know, last month about well, we had thirty 137 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 12: percent increase in our hybrid sales. We're now number three 138 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 12: in our I think we're eighty percent hybrid market share 139 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 12: and trucks. So we saw this happening. We also saw 140 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 12: the more expensive evs, you know, really suffering the market, 141 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 12: and the more affordable evs to do better. 142 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: For Its CEO Jim Farley, notes that the EV unit 143 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: lost five point one billion dollars last year, with more 144 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: red ink expected in twenty twenty five. Still, Ford raised 145 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: its profit outlooks and cost cuts and a shift and 146 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: more profitable vehicles are paying off. Get the full conversation 147 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: on the Bloomberg Podcast channel on YouTube. 148 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: Karen the nasdac's looking to extend trading hours on its 149 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: stock venues to twenty three hours a day during the 150 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: work week. The firm has asked the Security an Exchange 151 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: Commission from Parission to add an additional trading session from 152 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: nine pm to four am Eastern time. Other exchanges have 153 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: also outlined their own paths to extend trading hours on 154 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: their venues, including the New York Stock Exchange, which plans 155 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: to offer twenty two hours a day of trading. 156 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: Nathan and bi partisan group of senators is making a 157 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: long shot bid to break a stalemate over healthcare subsidies, 158 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: while also acknowledging that time has run out to pass 159 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: legislation before the credits expire. 160 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 9: At the end of the year. 161 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: The political uncertainty surrounding the future of the covid era 162 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: subsidies complicates matters for millions of consumers facing out of 163 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: pocket costs doubling or more. If lawmakers can agree on 164 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: a path forward. The current open at Roman period expires 165 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: January fifteenth. House Minority Leader HOCKEYM. Jeffrey slammed his GOP 166 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: colleagues for refusing to extend the credits from the very beginning. 167 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 13: Republicans have made their intentions clear. They don't want to 168 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 13: see the Affordable Care ACTAX credits extended because they don't 169 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 13: support providing affordable healthcare to everyday Americans. 170 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: AUS Minority Leader HOCKEYM. Jeffries Republican Senator Susan Collins, who's 171 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: part of the bipartisan talk, says a vote could happen 172 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: as soon as early next year. She says that could 173 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: trigger a new or expanded open enrollment period for the 174 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: Obamacare exchanges. Time now for a look at some of 175 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: the other stories making news in New York and around 176 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: the world, and for that we're joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker, 177 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 2: John good mordeh. 178 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 14: And Good Morning Karen Hedge. Fund billionaire Stephen Cohen is 179 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 14: among those winning formal approval to open casinos in New 180 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 14: York City. That story this morning from Bloomberg's Charlie Pennett. 181 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 10: It marks the first time in the city's modern history 182 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 10: that full scale gambling parlors will operate legally in the 183 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 10: Five Borrows. The decision by the New York State Gaming 184 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 10: Commission culminates a decade long process to allow as many 185 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 10: as three new casinos to be built in the city 186 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 10: and its surrounding suburbs. That sets the stage for two 187 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 10: project in Queens and one in the Bronx. State officials 188 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 10: have estimated gaming revenue from the three casinos could reach 189 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 10: five and a half billion by twenty thirty three in 190 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 10: New York. Charlie Pellot Bloomberg Radio. 191 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 14: Leading Jewish groups in the United States are urging all 192 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 14: Jewish organizations to increase security measures at public events as 193 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 14: follows the deadly mass shooting in Australia. The APE says 194 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 14: the groups advised that Jewish public events should be open 195 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 14: only to people who had been screened after pre registering. 196 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 14: President Trump says he's reclassifying fence and al and his 197 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 14: latest push to ratchet up pressure on Latin America over 198 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 14: a drug trafficking The Trump administration waide a similar designation 199 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 14: in the president's first term, which allowed the Department of 200 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 14: Homeland Security to access money for detecting and eliminating weapons 201 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 14: of mass destruction if The Trump administration said in a 202 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 14: court filing yesterday that the President's White House ballroom construction 203 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 14: project must continue for unexplained national security reasons. The administration 204 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 14: also says theist organization that wants to stop it, there's 205 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 14: no standing. The filing was in a response to a 206 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 14: lawsuit filed last Friday by the National Trust for Historic Preservation. 207 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 14: Global News twenty four hours a day and whenever you 208 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 14: want it with Bloomberg News Now. I'm John Tucker, and 209 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 14: this is Bloomberg Karen. 210 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 2: Thanks Sean time now for our Bloomberg Sports update, and 211 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: for that we bring in John stash Hour. 212 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 15: Thanks Karen. Pittsburgh Steelers were down three ninety then scored 213 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 15: twenty eight straight points and the Steelers beat the Dolphins 214 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 15: and Mother Night Football twenty eight to fifteen. Aaron Rodgers 215 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 15: a couple of touchdown passes. Pittsburgh scored three tds in 216 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 15: a thirteen minute span of the second half at eight 217 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 15: and six. They lead the Ravens by one game. NBA 218 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 15: in Utah, the Jazz beat the Mads in overtime, but 219 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 15: the Dallas rookie Cooper Flags scored forty two points. He's 220 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 15: eighteen years old. He's the youngest in NBA history to 221 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 15: score forty. The Knicks play the Spurs tonight in Las 222 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 15: Vegas for the NBA Cup. That's for Bloomberg Sports Update. 223 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: Stay with us. More from Bloomberg day Break coming up 224 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: after this. 225 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Serious Exam 226 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 227 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business Apple. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 228 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 10: Good morning. 229 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager. An end to the war is closer 230 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: than ever before. That's what President Donald Trump is saying 231 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: after the latest talks between US, Ukrainian and European negotiators 232 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: on resolving the conflict with Russia. Ukrainian President Vladimir Lensky 233 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,359 Speaker 3: says he has an agreement with the US on security guarantees, 234 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 3: but the issue of territory remains a sticking point. 235 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 10: Nish BRUSHTI. 236 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 16: Of course, not all aspects are simple. There are complicated 237 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 16: things in particular the topic of territories. Undoubtedly everyone is 238 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 16: raising this topic and it's important that we all work 239 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 16: to ensure that things like that are absolutely fair. 240 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: And that was Ukrainian President vladimir's Lenski speaking through an 241 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: interpreter from Berlin joining us from Brussels this morning is 242 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Senior Europe correspondent Oliver Crook and all you not 243 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: to put you on the spot, but is Ukraine closer 244 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 3: than ever to a deal after these talks? Good morning, 245 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: good morning. 246 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 247 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 5: I mean quite possibly they're closer than ever, but they've 248 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 5: never really been close, so it may not be saying 249 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 5: quite as much as the president has been saying. That 250 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 5: being said, I think that the main thing that's changed 251 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 5: over the last couple of weeks is the United States 252 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 5: talking so openly and I think probably in greater detail 253 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 5: about what a security guarantee for Ukraine would look like 254 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 5: backed by the United States. For Zelenski, as far as 255 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 5: he's concerned, these security guarantees are absolutely essential because it's 256 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 5: one thing to have a cease fire, it's one thing 257 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 5: to end the war, but what good is that if 258 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 5: you're just going to get reinvaded in two to three years. 259 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 5: So for him, it's really about creating an architecture and 260 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 5: a mechanism by which if there is an invasion ever 261 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 5: in the future, there is something there that is triggered 262 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 5: that actually prompts action from NATO. And what they want 263 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: is these Article five like guarantees. The Article five within 264 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 5: the NATO clause is the one that is an attack 265 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 5: on one is an attack on all. And the idea 266 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 5: is there would be some sort of triggering mechanism that 267 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 5: would enlist the efforts of NATO immediately, unlike what happened 268 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two. If ever, there is another we 269 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 5: should say that we do not have a clear expression 270 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 5: of what Article five like actually means, but we do 271 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 5: understand that they won this from the United States and 272 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 5: that there would be Congress that would also enshrine this 273 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 5: into law. And of course that's super important to the 274 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 5: Ukrainians because they did have the Budapest Memorandum back in 275 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 5: nineteen ninety four when the Ukrainians surrendered their nuclear arms, 276 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 5: that massive deterrent in order to preserve their sovereignty that 277 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 5: was guaranteed by the US and the Russians, that of 278 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 5: course was violated. 279 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: I guess this puts the ONUS now or the attention 280 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: on how Russia could respond to this. Of course, Russia 281 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: has been adamant against Ukraine joining NATO, But what about 282 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: the idea of an Article five like provision for Ukraine. 283 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: Is that something that Russia potentially could be on board with. 284 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: So potentially, I mean, it depends how it's defined. 285 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 5: Of course, the Article five like status of it from 286 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 5: a defensive perspective is just you know that the US 287 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 5: would say, why would you care Russia? If you know 288 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 5: your attention is not to further in evade Ukraine, then 289 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 5: then this should be something that doesn't bother you. What 290 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 5: will bother the Russians. This is why it will not 291 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 5: be a member of NATO Ukraine. That is is, they 292 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 5: do not want to have NATO to have free access 293 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 5: to go into Ukraine, to send troops, to send hardware 294 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 5: at kind of whatever level they sort of they desire to. 295 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 5: They also don't want Ukraine to get a seat at 296 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 5: the table at the sort of NATO table in terms 297 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 5: of governing policy. Potentially there is a way forward, but 298 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 5: we should say that NATO is potentially the initial sort 299 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 5: of instigating a reasoning for the invasion of Ukraine that 300 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 5: the Russians have put forward saying that it's one of 301 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 5: these sort of real reasons that they felt that NATO 302 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 5: expansionism was really a threat to Russia. So this is 303 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 5: a very delicate question, a very delicate balance to reach. 304 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 5: But again the United States feels pretty confident that they 305 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 5: understand both the positions of the Ukrainians and are trying 306 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 5: to bridge it. 307 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: Just thirty seconds left, Ollie, what about the territory issue? 308 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: That does seem like it's still a pretty big sticking point. 309 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: I think it's still the number one issue. It's still 310 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: obviously a main contention point for the Russians and the Ukrainians. 311 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: The Ukrainians have said they basically will not give up 312 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: any additional territory to the Russians, though the Ukrainians seem 313 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: to have potentially a little bit on that. The Russians, 314 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: for their parts, say they don't even want to have 315 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: a discussion about a ceasefire, let alone a peace agreement 316 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: without the entirety of the Donbass being donated to the 317 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: Russians and surrendered in some way. 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