Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 1: A lot of interviews with Hall of Famers, new Hall
Speaker 1: of Famers, Old Hall of Famers, the new look Jets,
Speaker 1: the old look Browns.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know, but the hype around it
Speaker 2: feels more like it's Jets related, even though Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: is not going to play. But I am really curious
Speaker 2: about Zach Wilson and that would be one of my
Speaker 2: focal points if I was doing Hard Knocks or one
Speaker 2: of the producers, I'd be like, I want to see
Speaker 2: what he sees when he watches Aaron Rodgers. I want
Speaker 2: to see what Aaron Rodgers is telling him or showing him.
Speaker 2: That would be fascinating to me because there's a big
Speaker 2: age difference there. Aaron Rodgers could be his dad, but
Speaker 2: is it like seventeen eighteen years difference. But you know,
Speaker 2: you know Jordan Loved, They knew that he the succession
Speaker 2: plan was already in place in Greenback. Aaron knew that
Speaker 2: that eventually Jordan Love takes over. There's no guarantee with
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson with the Jets, because if Aaron's going to
Speaker 2: play three years. Zach Wilson might not play again for
Speaker 2: the Jets barring an injury, and then what happens to
Speaker 2: him because there's so many quarterbacks. I mean, just this
Speaker 2: draft coming up, you got Caleb Williams and Drake May
Speaker 2: just to start. You're probably going to have four more
Speaker 2: first round draft picks here. If you don't prove yourself,
Speaker 2: you know early and often they move by, they move
Speaker 2: on quickly. Here. You know that's look at I mean,
Speaker 2: Josh Rosen, go back to him. It's like, all right,
Speaker 2: let me see what you got after one year. You know,
Speaker 2: we're going to draft Kyler Murray and that was one
Speaker 2: of the worst offensive lines I've ever seen. I don't
Speaker 2: know if Josh Rosen could play. I know he didn't
Speaker 2: get a fair shot in Arizona. There wasn't a whole
Speaker 2: lot of talent around him, and Arizona might be back
Speaker 2: in that situation again here coming up, Justin Fields has
Speaker 2: received a lot of praise and I wanted to do
Speaker 2: some research here. He was ranked ahead of Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 2: and the players voting on the top one hundred. Currently
Speaker 2: one of the more popular MVP bets right now and
Speaker 2: According to Points Bet Senior editor Max Meyer, Justin Fields
Speaker 2: has more MVP bets. Do you guys want to take
Speaker 2: a guess more MVP bets? Then I got three quarterbacks here,
Speaker 2: take a guess the quarterbacks who are behind him for
Speaker 2: bets for MVP.
Speaker 3: Pauline oh Man, Aaron Rodgers, he.
Speaker 2: Is behind him, Marvin, Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert, Yes, Todd,
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Josh Allen. And if you said Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 2: you would be night. Come on, Yes, Patrick Mahomes, Josh
Speaker 2: Allen and Justin Herbert Fields has more MVP bets than
Speaker 2: all of those guys combined.
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Speaker 2: quarterback has won the award ten consecutive seasons. He rushed
Speaker 2: for eleven hundred yards. Last year they brought in DJ Moore.
Speaker 2: But capturing an MVP won't be easy because DraftKings has
Speaker 2: fields over under passing yards twenty eight hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: yards and a half second lowest number. You want to
Speaker 2: guess the quarterback who has a lower over under for
Speaker 2: passing yards this year? Anybody? Anyboddy Paulie Baker Mayfield? No, Sorry,
Speaker 2: that would have been a good guess if you said,
Speaker 2: if he's rushing for eleven hundred yards, they're probably not
Speaker 2: going to be a playoff team. And if you factor
Speaker 2: this in as well, you gotta make the playoffs if
Speaker 2: you're going to be the MVP, So everybody can love
Speaker 2: justin fields. Are they better than the Lions? No? Are
Speaker 2: they better than the Vikings? No? I don't know if
Speaker 2: they're better than Green Bay. Is he going to make
Speaker 2: the playoffs? And if he does, what kind of numbers
Speaker 2: will he show?
Speaker 5: Yes, Mark, this has got to be a jail and
Speaker 5: hurts type situation where he's got to start the season
Speaker 5: out eleven and one twelve and one to get real consideration,
Speaker 5: not like, oh they're you know, nine and four, okay,
Speaker 5: Like he's got to do some like real damage in
Speaker 5: the NFC North.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to happen. Oh, neither do I. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but we saw that with Kyler Murray that he started
Speaker 2: out nine and one an MVP candidate and then the
Speaker 2: second half, they always folded. But I think that he's
Speaker 2: a good story. It's a unique story. I think you
Speaker 2: have to factor that in. But he's a unique talent,
Speaker 2: fascinating to watch. But I unless you think they're making
Speaker 2: the playoffs, then I don't want to hear about MVP
Speaker 2: because it won't happen. He won't win the MVP if
Speaker 2: they don't make the playoffs. I don't care what his
Speaker 2: numbers are.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: If he rushes for two thousand yards, all right, then
Speaker 2: maybe go back to when OJ rushed for two thousand yards. Now,
Speaker 2: you had a lot less teams who made the playoffs,
Speaker 2: and I think they won nine games that year. They
Speaker 2: may have been nine and five that year when they
Speaker 2: played fourteen games. That's still that's a very good you'd
Speaker 2: make the playoffs now. But if you're not winning nine
Speaker 2: or ten games, James, you're not winning an MVP. Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 3: I think it's almost as more likely that Justin Fields
Speaker 3: could be replaced in the offseason as he could be MVP. Sure,
Speaker 3: they have two top ten draft picks. They got Carolina's
Speaker 3: top ten and they have their own. They they could
Speaker 3: have two top ten drafticks.
Speaker 2: I wonder what the odds are if you said MVP
Speaker 2: or is justin Fields going to be the quarterback next year? Now,
Speaker 2: you may still be the quarterback next year, but if
Speaker 2: they don't see enough, then maybe they draft a quarterback.
Speaker 2: Poll question seton what do we have here? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Dan, we got a couple up there right all right,
Speaker 7: first hour we had college football football that is, is
Speaker 7: currently heading in.
Speaker 8: A good direction or terrible direction?
Speaker 7: That's hold and steady at about seventy eight percent saying
Speaker 7: it's terrible. And then I put up would you rather
Speaker 7: play for Burnley or Birmingham City, which really means would
Speaker 7: you rather play for JJ Watt or Tom Brady? Right now,
Speaker 7: JJ Watt's got about sixty seven percent of the vote.
Speaker 7: I've seen some comments here where people are like, you
Speaker 7: know what, I don't really feel like getting screamed at,
Speaker 7: so I want to play for JJ Watt.
Speaker 2: Oh you think that Tom's gonna yell at the.
Speaker 8: Team throwing you know, iPads and stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, where JJ is a little more good ass
Speaker 2: dudish m okay. You know what's the pole question for
Speaker 2: the final hour? Uh?
Speaker 8: Well, I just put up the Burnley one.
Speaker 2: Oh oh you just did that? Okay, Okay, get some
Speaker 2: phone calls in here, David.
Speaker 9: The philosophy of this squad is off the field.
Speaker 2: We're good ass dudes, we're nice guys. We do the
Speaker 2: right thing.
Speaker 8: Well, good ass lads. You just have to change the terminology.
Speaker 10: That's yeah, we're good.
Speaker 2: R slots Dave and Nova Scotia. Good morning, Dave. What's
Speaker 2: on your mind today?
Speaker 9: Hey, Dan? Get a little breaking news here for you,
Speaker 9: Jimmy Jimmerson style. I am guests here in Tampa for
Speaker 9: the Tampa Bay Bucks training camp and our guy John
Speaker 9: Woolford DP faithful breaking news. I think he's gonna be
Speaker 9: taking a starting job, Dan, he looked amazing today. Ran
Speaker 9: circles around trap and Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Dave. Keep this updated on that the former
Speaker 2: Rams quarterback. Is he going to be the starting quarterback
Speaker 2: for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I don't think it takes
Speaker 2: a lot to be the starting quarterback for the Tampa
Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers this year. You got Kyle Trask and you
Speaker 2: have Baker Mayfield Junior the third Yeah, poem.
Speaker 3: I think Tampa would love to be awful this year,
Speaker 3: like terribly awful and have a top three draft pick.
Speaker 3: They seem like they're non threatening. Their roster's down a
Speaker 3: little bit compared to the quarterback situations way down. That's a
Speaker 3: team that would love to lose a lot.
Speaker 2: My Cincinnati Reds, they have not done well here second
Speaker 2: half of the season. They lost to the Cubs sixteen
Speaker 2: to six. They lost to the Cubs twenty to nine
Speaker 2: on Tuesday. I was curious, when's the last time a
Speaker 2: team gave up thirty six runs or more back to
Speaker 2: back games? Well, the Reds allowed thirty six or more
Speaker 2: in back to back games. The last time was nineteen
Speaker 2: oh Oneta the Day Stata The Day Day, Travis Meadow
Speaker 2: Stata the Day scat the Lovely Yeah. I didn't realize
Speaker 2: that we had that when Travis Meadow came in studio
Speaker 2: and we had him do a stat of the day.
Speaker 2: Great songwriter, Travis Meadow. Let's see MESSI had two goals
Speaker 2: last night.
Speaker 8: Three games, he assisted on three others.
Speaker 2: Help me understand this season? Boy? Okay, if you want
Speaker 2: to grow the game in the United States, oh dear,
Speaker 2: it's be behind a paywall, isn't it. Or app I like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how people can get this. You're going
Speaker 2: to get highlights on ESPN. But if you want to
Speaker 2: grow the sport, you have to make it more readily available.
Speaker 2: You have to make it easier for people to be
Speaker 2: flipping through and go, oh, I'm going to stop there
Speaker 2: and watch a little bit of this game instead of
Speaker 2: I'll just wait for the highlights because I don't want
Speaker 2: to spend the money on this or I don't even
Speaker 2: know how to find it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it kind of cuts both ways, right
Speaker 7: where if you were an MLS fan before you could
Speaker 7: get to watch your local teams, but now you can
Speaker 7: buy into a package that allows you to watch every game,
Speaker 7: which is great, but now you also you have to
Speaker 7: buy the package basically to watch I think there's one
Speaker 7: free game a week, or maybe a couple of free
Speaker 7: games a week, but other than that, everything is basically
Speaker 7: behind that paywall.
Speaker 2: You have to buy the package.
Speaker 7: So it does it freezes out a lot of people,
Speaker 7: but it does, you know, sort of force diehard MLS fans.
Speaker 2: To buy it. Yeah, but you want to grow the sport.
Speaker 8: YEA, theoretically you do.
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure everybody sees it that way, but
Speaker 2: does MESSI get paid by everybody in the league.
Speaker 7: So the way I understand the MLS agreement or the
Speaker 7: way that their business structure works is that you know, say,
Speaker 7: in the NFL and you play for the Patriots, you're
Speaker 7: an employee of the Patriots, and you get a paycheck
Speaker 7: from the Patriots. In Major League Soccer, you're an employee
Speaker 7: of Major League Soccer, and you get your paycheck from
Speaker 7: Major League Soccer. So essentially, all of the teams in
Speaker 7: theory pay into one big pool, and then that money
Speaker 7: is then dispersed out to the players.
Speaker 3: Yes, could people worldwide sign up for Apple TV or
Speaker 3: whatever it is the package to watch MESSI like, if
Speaker 3: you're a worldwide soccer fan, you're not in America, I think,
Speaker 3: so that may be the bigger play. Yeah, for people
Speaker 3: who are just such big fans of his worldwide.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you want to attract an audience in the
Speaker 2: United States, so they're going to games and not just
Speaker 2: messy games. I mean, you know, when you start talking
Speaker 2: about who's good in MLS, I don't know if people
Speaker 2: know any of these names unless you're a die hard fan.
Speaker 2: You want to have people at least be curious and go, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, I enjoyed that match or that player. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you can have that curiosity because it's
Speaker 2: not readily available. Let's see what else do we have you.
Speaker 2: I saw where Wilt Chamberlain's nineteen seventy two jersey is
Speaker 2: expected to go for at least four million dollars upcoming auction.
Speaker 2: Here the current record for a Wilt Chamberlain piece of
Speaker 2: sports memorabilia one point seventy nine. That was a jersey
Speaker 2: worn during his rookie season with the Philadelphia Warriors. But
Speaker 2: they have an online bidding that goes to September twenty seventh,
Speaker 2: and in that game he was playing with a broken hand.
Speaker 2: Wilt had twenty four points and twenty nine rebounds and
Speaker 2: was named the Finals MVP. But if you have four
Speaker 2: million dollars or at least more than four million dollars,
Speaker 2: and you want to add a Wilt Chamberlain nineteen seventy
Speaker 2: two jersey where he's named MVP, it could be yours.
Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, Is there a basketball piece of memorabilita that
Speaker 3: would go for more than that that you can think of?
Speaker 2: Like Michael Jordan stuff Jordan last Games, Last Jersey Wizards
Speaker 2: or Bulls Bulls Bulls game winning jumper in Utah. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm all looking seef that's available. I would think the
Speaker 2: whole uniform. I don't think that. Once again, I was
Speaker 2: there getting ready to interview Phil Jackson when Jordan came
Speaker 2: in and he took off his shoes and autographed his
Speaker 2: shoes after that shot. I know he doesn't have those,
Speaker 2: but I'm guessing those shoes. I think people would rather
Speaker 2: have Michael's shoes from the last game with the Bulls
Speaker 2: than the jersey.
Speaker 3: Yes, Pauline, Okay, here it is. We're going to play
Speaker 3: the Michael Jordan game. The jersey warned Michael Jordan Game
Speaker 3: one of the NBA Finals in ninety eight, so it's
Speaker 3: not even game six. Game one sold for more than
Speaker 3: any other sports piece of memorabilia all time. The record
Speaker 3: holder was Diego Maradona's Hand of God jersey the eighty
Speaker 3: six World Cup. Jordan's jersey from Game one against the
Speaker 3: Jazz sold for what who wants to go first? Five million,
Speaker 3: Marvin seven million, Fritzy six point three million, Seaton.
Speaker 8: Lowered a three point five million.
Speaker 3: Ten point one million dollars.
Speaker 2: That was last year, Okay, But Jordan's shoes I think
Speaker 2: would probably bring bring a better price than his jersey
Speaker 2: from the last game that that last game with the Bulls,
Speaker 2: because people are infatuated with his shoes, that you would
Speaker 2: want to have the last pair of shoes that Jordan
Speaker 2: was playing in as a Chicago Bull, I would, But those,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's only going up. You know a lot
Speaker 2: of this memorabilia. Yes, Marv, if you.
Speaker 5: Have that in your possession and you're okay, do you
Speaker 5: just say, you know what, let me wait another ten
Speaker 5: years so this can go up even more in value.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess it depends on when if you need
Speaker 2: the money. And I'm sure you're watching the market here
Speaker 2: as far as what memorabilia is going for. But if
Speaker 2: you said you had Michael Jordan's shoes from his last
Speaker 2: game as a Bowl, you're sitting on ten million dollars
Speaker 2: probably maybe more. Yeah. Point Yeah.
Speaker 3: Game two shoes of Jordan from his last finals with
Speaker 3: the Bulls did go for a couple as up for
Speaker 3: sale right now, and you're expecting at least three million.
Speaker 3: But that's Game two. Jordan wore a different pair of
Speaker 3: shoes for all six games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Now, I was there. I got to see
Speaker 2: that twice where he signed his shoes after winning Championships
Speaker 2: got to see that first hand, and even one of
Speaker 2: the guys who got the shoes got to see it firsthand.
Speaker 2: So if anybody ever goes, hey, are you sure that
Speaker 2: that guy got there? YEP, I saw it right in
Speaker 2: front of me, got Phil Jackson to my right. Jordan
Speaker 2: comes in jerseys out cuban cigar, soaked with champagne and
Speaker 2: had the game ball with him and took off his jerseys,
Speaker 2: his shoes. They should say, yes, bun.
Speaker 3: Remember when Jordan was having trouble selling that house in
Speaker 3: Chicago for like twenty million bucks. Yeah, it's too bad
Speaker 3: he didn't have like a nice pair of shoes from
Speaker 3: Game five of his last final to say, this comes
Speaker 3: with the house, so you get the house and then
Speaker 3: you could do whatever you want with the shoes, like
Speaker 3: like a three couple million bucks inside the house. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, granted countertops game six shoes.
Speaker 2: Ooh.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he spiced up the sale with that,
Speaker 3: but that would been cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yes, I think there's probably certain Jordan's like the Shrug game,
Speaker 5: like where are those Jordans at? Like the Portland series, Yeah,
Speaker 5: we hit the was that sixty three points in the
Speaker 5: first half? Like there's certain Jordans from certain games. Obviously
Speaker 5: the Flu Game. You know, those went for a lot
Speaker 5: of money.
Speaker 2: Food poisoning. Oh yeah, sorry, food poisoning, correct, you know,
Speaker 2: food poisoning in parenthesy. The Flu Game.
Speaker 3: Shoes sold for one point three eight million last year.
Speaker 2: But then that's a bargain.
Speaker 3: It appears that might be a bargain.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely if the game won's your shoes are going
Speaker 2: for a couple of million.
Speaker 3: The guy who got the Flu Game shoes initially sold
Speaker 3: them like fifteen years ago for one hundred and four
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, and just a couple of years ago they
Speaker 3: sold again for one point three eight and they're gonna
Speaker 3: get they're not gonna get less expense.
Speaker 2: Well, that's three or four million dollars. That's one of
Speaker 2: the most famous games in NBA history. Ana was during
Speaker 2: the finals. Yes, it feels.
Speaker 7: Almost interesting that those aren't in a museum somewhere and
Speaker 7: that they're out in circulation or something, you know, just
Speaker 7: based on how the lore of Michael Jordan, you know, you're.
Speaker 2: Right about that, And how do you display that or
Speaker 2: do you display that? I mean, I don't know what
Speaker 2: you can do.
Speaker 5: That's in a safe somewhere, you.
Speaker 2: Think, But don't you get those things to be able
Speaker 2: to show people? Hey, look at what I have and
Speaker 2: you don't. I mean, is it an? Is it?
Speaker 11: Yes?
Speaker 2: I suppose? But is it enough to go? Uhyay? By
Speaker 2: the way, I got Jordan's shoes from his last game
Speaker 2: of the Bulls. Hey, where are they?
Speaker 6: Ah?
Speaker 2: They're in the safety to pass a box? No, I
Speaker 2: don't care if you've got a Picasso. Let me see
Speaker 2: the Picasso. Yeh see, But.
Speaker 7: Do you get the uh? Well, maybe a piasto is
Speaker 7: a bad example. Right, But I'm kind of taking your
Speaker 7: words a little bit here. But isn't aren't you supposed
Speaker 7: to invest in art? I think they're your words. Yes,
Speaker 7: you buy what you like, not what you.
Speaker 8: Think is going to be valuable. Yes, right, yes, So
Speaker 8: I would.
Speaker 7: Imagine that some people who collect art buy what they
Speaker 7: think is going to be valuable.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 7: You could do the same thing with sports memorabilia. You
Speaker 7: can you know, uh you know, Jym seat used that
Speaker 7: like a seat in hall game might mean a lot
Speaker 7: to me, but it doesn't really mean anything to anybody else.
Speaker 7: So you buy that, whereas the Jordan sneakers you buy
Speaker 7: that as a business investment some people.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, yes, yes, Tom.
Speaker 12: Everything's about showing it up to a certain extent.
Speaker 10: If you're the only person on the planet, would it
Speaker 10: be especial if you were driving around in a fancy
Speaker 10: car or you were in a suit with bling all over.
Speaker 12: Who would care you're the only one.
Speaker 10: It's all about other people seeing you in the car
Speaker 10: and checking out your bling.
Speaker 12: I always think of that when people are like, no,
Speaker 12: I like to have it, but I don't need to
Speaker 12: show it off. But if you're the only person on
Speaker 12: the planet, you would be acting very differently than others
Speaker 12: checking you out back to you in the studio.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Ton, I thought that's what I said, that
Speaker 2: you know you have it? Yeah, I was rethinking.
Speaker 12: I was trying to be more dramatic about the only
Speaker 12: person on the planet.
Speaker 2: You don't need to Yeah. That that one that felt
Speaker 2: like it was a little bit of hyperbole. Let me
Speaker 2: take a break. It's no hyperbole that the PAC twelve
Speaker 2: is on the verge of a seismic shift, in my opinion.
Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit more about that coming up.
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Speaker 2: saying this over the last forty eight hours, and I'm
Speaker 2: not a sky's falling guy, but you know, we're on
Speaker 2: the verge of something changing college football, and I don't
Speaker 2: know how much, but it feels like it's going to
Speaker 2: be reshaped here, or at least we're on the verge
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Speaker 2: host on seven fifty AM in Portland and certainly covering
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve and I wanted to have you on
Speaker 2: because I don't know if you feel this same way, John,
Speaker 2: but it feels like the PAC twelve is in peril
Speaker 2: and the question is what can you do? So where
Speaker 2: do we stand now? Eleven thirty am Eastern.
Speaker 13: Yeah, last night, I think everybody was sending out the
Speaker 13: Amber alert and really looking at the Arizona Schools, Arizona,
Speaker 13: Arizona State. Anytime the regents meet, there's buzz buzz buzzing
Speaker 13: in the PAC twelve footprint. And they're going to meet
Speaker 13: later today tonight, early this evening, and I think a
Speaker 13: lot of people last night expected that Arizona and Arizona
Speaker 13: State would leave the conference. I reached out to a
Speaker 13: member of the PAC twelve CEO group this morning who
Speaker 13: told me that there was some enthusiasm internally with the
Speaker 13: PAC twelve. Now I'm pumping the brakes. I'm rolling my
Speaker 13: eyes a little bit because I've heard this all throughout
Speaker 13: this negotiation. But what I was told is that the
Speaker 13: Arizona Schools are really looking hard at the University of Oregon. Today,
Speaker 13: Oregon is expected to get a reduced share. Invitation to
Speaker 13: the Big Ten conference could come as soon as this morning,
Speaker 13: midday to day. You know, we know that the Big
Speaker 13: Ten has opened that that conversation internally, and I think
Speaker 13: there's a lot of eyes on Oregon. Oregon appears to
Speaker 13: be the glue right now in the conference because the
Speaker 13: Arizona schools are saying that if Oregon stays, If Oregon
Speaker 13: chooses to stay in the PAC twelve, there might be
Speaker 13: something there for the Arizona schools. That media deal that
Speaker 13: George Koliovkov finally presented earlier this week, I think was
Speaker 13: underwhelming to a lot of people. From a financial standpoint,
Speaker 13: it appears that there seems to be now maybe an
Speaker 13: added layer to this. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 13: if more money came in. I don't know if a
Speaker 13: new partner came in. But you know, I was told
Speaker 13: that a big part of this now hinges on the
Speaker 13: University of Oregon.
Speaker 6: S.
Speaker 2: You know, Phil Knight has his money behind, you know,
Speaker 2: the Oregon program. I don't know how much of an
Speaker 2: enticement the Big ten saying hey, come over here, you
Speaker 2: can make this amount of money. Plus if you're Oregon,
Speaker 2: don't you look at this and say this opens the
Speaker 2: door with UCLA or certainly usc out the door that
Speaker 2: we can qualify right now for the national chance we
Speaker 2: can win the PAC twelve. No matter who's still left,
Speaker 2: this is an easier path than if we go to
Speaker 2: Big ten.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Oregon is such an interesting figure here because they're
Speaker 13: not like others. They're not like the other Pack twelve schools,
Speaker 13: They're not like a lot of the universities nationally. They
Speaker 13: have thrived at a time when the other Pack twelve
Speaker 13: schools were underfunded, you know, because of Phil and Penny Knight.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 13: I reached out to Phil Knight earlier this week and
Speaker 13: the response I got back is that he wasn't ready
Speaker 13: to talk because he was going to say something he
Speaker 13: might regret, you know. And I was like, that's the
Speaker 13: ideal time exactly. But you're right, You're absolutely right. Rob Mullens,
Speaker 13: the athletic director at Oregon, he told me multiple times
Speaker 13: just a week ago, told me that access to the
Speaker 13: playoff is what matters to the Ducks. And now the
Speaker 13: University of Washington looks over at Oregon. They want to
Speaker 13: be alongside Oregon, and if Arizona and Arizona State do,
Speaker 13: if they're being real about wanting to be in this conference,
Speaker 13: and I think the decision really comes down to the
Speaker 13: next twenty four to thirty six hours with the Oregon Ducks,
Speaker 13: will they decide that they're better off not competing against
Speaker 13: Ohio State and Michigan and Penn State and every being
Speaker 13: in USC and UCLA and the Big Ten and having
Speaker 13: an easier path to the playoff. Or will they take
Speaker 13: what everyone thinks is the future of college football and
Speaker 13: jump to a conference of eighteen or twenty.
Speaker 2: How'd the PAC twelve get here?
Speaker 13: Sure, let's go back, I mean ten twelve years. Larry Scott,
Speaker 13: the commissioner of the PAC twelve. He did some good
Speaker 13: things early, but his media deal was outdated. They never
Speaker 13: should have been a media company. They tried to own
Speaker 13: and operate the PAC twelve networks. They should have had
Speaker 13: a media partner. We all know now that television is
Speaker 13: running the show in college football. It's really unfortunate to
Speaker 13: see what TV has done to tradition and kickoff times
Speaker 13: and rivalries, and you know, the the bifurcation of all
Speaker 13: the conferences that you know, the Fox can say all
Speaker 13: they want that, you know, hey, we're not behind all
Speaker 13: of this, but the money is there, and we all
Speaker 13: know what's driving all of the expansion and the realignment.
Speaker 13: But I think the PAC twelve made some terrible miscues
Speaker 13: in the Larry Scott Era. I think George Kayofkoff came
Speaker 13: through the door. He should have been more tuned in
Speaker 13: to UCLA and USC being unhappy. That should have been
Speaker 13: job one. Even if they're they're telling you to your
Speaker 13: face they're happy, Hey, we're happy, we're good here. He
Speaker 13: should have been camping in the front yard at USC
Speaker 13: and making sure of it. And then, you know, I
Speaker 13: think the media landscape has shifted. We've all seen the
Speaker 13: layoffs and we've seen that industry hit hard, and I
Speaker 13: think it's a terrible time to be negotiating. I think
Speaker 13: it's just really unfortunate for the PAC twelve and PAC
Speaker 13: twelve fans.
Speaker 2: More importantly, Yeah, I thought Arizona, it felt like Arizona
Speaker 2: Arizona State are waiting for somebody else, some other school
Speaker 2: to secede from the Union then they can go to
Speaker 2: the Big twelve. So if Washington and Oregon said, you know,
Speaker 2: we're going to the Big ten, then Arizona Arizona State
Speaker 2: would go, well, we're going to the Big twelve. But
Speaker 2: I'm also wondering who do they add, because I was
Speaker 2: told all along San Diego State was joining us, you know,
Speaker 2: they were joining the PAC twelve. I just told, you know, Boise,
Speaker 2: the you know, sort of a novelty that wouldn't happen.
Speaker 2: SMU was, you know a possibility. So can the Big
Speaker 2: twelve if they lose schools, reshape and still be the
Speaker 2: PAC twelve.
Speaker 13: Yeah, the easiest thing today would be, hey, they hold
Speaker 13: at nine, they add San Diego State. You know, I
Speaker 13: did inquire, you know, how would the thirty four million
Speaker 13: dollar exit fee at the Mountain West conference work. I
Speaker 13: was told that there's some financial flexibility that the PAC
Speaker 13: twelve would offer there. Maybe they subsidize it. Maybe you know,
Speaker 13: San Diego State takes a lower distribution as they enter
Speaker 13: the conference. I was also told from a Mountain West
Speaker 13: Conference president that the Mountain West might be willing to negotiate.
Speaker 13: That nobody wants to end up in litigation over these things.
Speaker 13: They're all negotiable. Even though thirty four million dollars is
Speaker 13: the number that's your starting point, I think you could
Speaker 13: get there. But you know the easiest answer is stay
Speaker 13: at nine at San Diego State. But it becomes critical today.
Speaker 1: If you lose.
Speaker 13: Oregon, you're going to lose Washington, and you're going to
Speaker 13: lose the Arizona schools. And you have to be able
Speaker 13: to trust each other at a time when nobody can
Speaker 13: trust each other. Dan, Dan, they're all pirates. They're all pirates,
Speaker 13: and they're planning chess. Unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you as always, John, Thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you. That's John Gonzano, columnist and radio host at
Speaker 2: seven fifty AM in Portland, Brent in Alabama. The fact
Speaker 2: that there are meetings going on tonight at six pacific.
Speaker 2: There's some serious conversations going on here.
Speaker 14: Hey, Brent, Hey, guys love the show. Yeah, college football
Speaker 14: lots changing. I'm trying to see where all this is going,
Speaker 14: because you know, a lot of people are saying this
Speaker 14: guy's falling. But the biggest thing to me, if you
Speaker 14: follow the money, is, first of all, you got to
Speaker 14: start back with the playoffs.
Speaker 9: In order to.
Speaker 14: Compete for the championship. You couldn't lose more than one
Speaker 14: or two games a year, right, So what would happen
Speaker 14: was big schools, the big brands would schedule Roast Beast
Speaker 14: Tech two or three times a year to give them
Speaker 14: essentially a bye week or something like that. It was
Speaker 14: a good thing, good move for the big schools because
Speaker 14: they got a little bit of a risk before they
Speaker 14: played a big rivalry game and the small schools got
Speaker 14: a big payday. They got the bank roll, not just
Speaker 14: their football program, but they got the bank roll their
Speaker 14: entire athletic program. Well, now that we're in a twelve
Speaker 14: team playoff, and as this consolidation continues, the pressure there's
Speaker 14: not going to be as much pressure for these teams
Speaker 14: to only lose zero or one or two games. They
Speaker 14: can lose two or three games and still compete for
Speaker 14: a national championship and a big Bowl game. So what
Speaker 14: happens to roastby Tech and all of these others schools?
Speaker 14: Because if I follow the money, if I'm Alabama, why
Speaker 14: would I play Roast Beef Tech two or three times
Speaker 14: a year instead of all conference games? Which is something
Speaker 14: that even Nick Saban has said, I want to play
Speaker 14: all conference games, but they just know it's been impossible
Speaker 14: in the past. So you lose that money, Roast Beef Tech,
Speaker 14: all of these small schools are gonna I mean, what
Speaker 14: happens to them? I'd love to get your feedback on that,
Speaker 14: because I don't see how any of these smaller kid
Speaker 14: programs can survive without that money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think these other schools really care
Speaker 2: about that. It's survival of the fittest right now. And
Speaker 2: you did have these schools that did get this opportunity
Speaker 2: to be sacrificial lambs or as you called them, roast
Speaker 2: beef tech. But you know, Georgia wants to have that
Speaker 2: tune up game or a couple of tune up games,
Speaker 2: or you know, a game after a tough game before
Speaker 2: they have another tough game. I just think we're headed
Speaker 2: towards maybe the top fifty revenue produce seeing football programs
Speaker 2: getting together and then they just schedule each other. You
Speaker 2: have certain divisions, and certain divisions each year will play
Speaker 2: a different division around the country, and then you'll have
Speaker 2: X number of teams qualifying for the playoffs, just like
Speaker 2: you do the NFL. You're going to pay the players.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe they unionize, and you can't say, well,
Speaker 2: that can't happen, because it can't happen everything. Look at
Speaker 2: college football. If I would have said ten years ago,
Speaker 2: this is going to happen. Name, image and likeness, you'd
Speaker 2: be like, there is no way. Now there's name, image
Speaker 2: and likeness, and doesn't you know it's there for the
Speaker 2: foreseeable future. Do you make them salaried employees like you
Speaker 2: can't say it can't happen with college football because I
Speaker 2: can't trust the people who are involved with college football.
Speaker 2: Everybody wants theirs. Are they thinking about the greater good? No,
Speaker 2: they're not. Tim and Boca. Hi Tim, what's on your
Speaker 2: mind today?
Speaker 11: How are you doing?
Speaker 2: Dan An?
Speaker 11: I'd just like to I'm just making a prediction here
Speaker 11: because I see it coming. I drive a drive uber
Speaker 11: and not too long ago, I dropped off of a
Speaker 11: real estate agent up in Jupiter and he said he's
Speaker 11: meeting the famous person Dan Best buying a house. Come
Speaker 11: to find out it's Nick Saban. Un predicted, Nick Saban
Speaker 11: will retired within two years. You don't buy a house
Speaker 11: in Jupiter and keep working. Have you ever been to Jupiter, Florida?
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Tom. Would I be surprised that
Speaker 2: Nick Saban retires before I do? Yeah, he'd like to
Speaker 2: steal a little bit of the shine. He's seventy one.
Speaker 2: I get it. Here's another thing. I would love to
Speaker 2: know what USC was promised by the Big ten and
Speaker 2: follow me on this. Hey, we'll join. We don't want
Speaker 2: these schools from the PAC twelve to join. Want to
Speaker 2: own Southern California. We want assurances here. And I'm wondering
Speaker 2: the only other school you're worried about if I'm USC
Speaker 2: is Oregon. Was there any you know, handshake wink wink
Speaker 2: assurances that and you have a new Big Ten commission,
Speaker 2: so I don't know if it would be still there
Speaker 2: part of the agreement. And maybe I'm just speculating on this,
Speaker 2: but if I'm USC, do I want assurances you're not
Speaker 2: taking other PAC twelve teams that I can recruit here
Speaker 2: for the Big Ten and not have to share everybody
Speaker 2: you know with the PAC twelve. Just yeah, everything's on
Speaker 2: the table. And the number of people I've heard from
Speaker 2: who are in college football or they follow college football,
Speaker 2: like everybody has some kind of theory, speculation, rumor innuendo
Speaker 2: with this. It's wild, but Oregon could change college football
Speaker 2: today or tomorrow or over the weekend if they stay
Speaker 2: or if they go, who stays, who goes? Oregon could
Speaker 2: change college football. It's that fluid with what's going on.
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Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls? What we learn? What's in
Speaker 2: store tomorrow? This day in sports history? What will the
Speaker 2: headline be off tonight's game Brown's Jets? Who wants to
Speaker 2: guess what the headline will be tomorrow? Nationally not locally, Marvin,
Speaker 2: I'll start with you.
Speaker 5: Jet sore to an impressive win?
Speaker 2: Jets sore? Okay, Todd, what about.
Speaker 12: You Brown out Jets by thirty?
Speaker 2: By thirty seems a little aggressive, Paulie.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, I'm aspire full. Chubb Brown's fans excited about
Speaker 3: upcoming season.
Speaker 2: A bad, Nick Chubb, that was Fritzy liking.
Speaker 3: You know, I like that one. I stand by it.
Speaker 2: You're sitting right now, Paulieu Seaton, you got one.
Speaker 8: Nathaniel can't hack him.
Speaker 10: Segue Hall of Shames, like three jets, just a couple
Speaker 10: of field goals.
Speaker 2: Okay, fine with dad. Here's something for you. The last
Speaker 2: MVP winning quarterback to throw for fewer than three thousand
Speaker 2: yards in a season. So it just if Justin Fields
Speaker 2: is going to win the MVP as a lot of people,
Speaker 2: so he has more people betting on him than Mahomes
Speaker 2: and Herbert and Josh Allen combined. But it's a better
Speaker 2: money play the odds. I get that. Okay. So the
Speaker 2: last MVP winning quarterback to throw for less than three
Speaker 2: thousand yards nineteen seventy eight, Terry Bradshaw, Lamar Jackson threw
Speaker 2: for thirty one hundred when he won, Steve McNair thirty
Speaker 2: two hundred when he won CAM thirty eight hundred, Tom
Speaker 2: Brady thirty nine hundred, Peyton Manning just over four thousand yards.
Speaker 2: Justin Fields he threw for twenty two hundred yards last
Speaker 2: year and rushed for eleven hundred yards. So just some
Speaker 2: MVP stuff. There By the way, Sean Payton, he is
Speaker 2: pleased with Russell Wilson's progress so far.
Speaker 6: It's hard because there were a lot of other factors
Speaker 6: a year ago, and we're really focused on what he's
Speaker 6: doing within the offense. Obviously, he's moving around well, his
Speaker 6: weights down, he's in real good shape. He's working really hard.
Speaker 6: You know, there are a lot of nuances still we're
Speaker 6: working through. You know, there's some good things in the
Speaker 6: running game today. Each day, you know, you kind of
Speaker 6: look at the film and you start again with the corrections.
Speaker 6: But I've been pleased with his progress and where he's
Speaker 6: at really dating back to the offseason into where we
Speaker 6: are now into our first full week.
Speaker 2: You know, it'd be really interesting if he said he
Speaker 2: wasn't progressing. I'm guessing that Sean Payton was still trying
Speaker 2: to protect Russell Wilson, attacked Nathaniel Hackett and then realized
Speaker 2: what he was doing, and that's how he got to
Speaker 2: this point. He's trying to, you know, pump up Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2: And also he wasn't the sole reason why this team
Speaker 2: wasn't good last year. That's the feeling I had with
Speaker 2: all of this, It's just uh, there was there was
Speaker 2: a problem with the exit execution there for Sean Payton,
Speaker 2: a little bit of a problem and what the message
Speaker 2: was in Helene.
Speaker 8: I just want to apologize to coach because he was right.
Speaker 8: This seems terrible.
Speaker 2: James in Colorado, Hey, James, what's on your mind today? Hey?
Speaker 5: Dan?
Speaker 15: Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I can. I can hear you. James.
Speaker 15: Hey, Hey, Hey, I'm in New Hampshire. I'm a New
Speaker 15: Hampshire born and bred boy, but I'm just here the
Speaker 15: first time long time, and I appreciate you taking my
Speaker 15: call and I'm let's see six to two two, twenty
Speaker 15: to ten fighting Wait, I'm calling in frivolity. I appreciate
Speaker 15: your sports knowledge and your sportscasting, and you know, hopefully
Speaker 15: I can put some meat on your bone for today.
Speaker 15: I'm a Danner, I'm not a swifter, and the dan
Speaker 15: Nets are included in that. And I will be because
Speaker 15: of you in Dublin on the twenty second, So I
Speaker 15: totally look forward to that.
Speaker 2: All righty, when James is gonna follow us over there
Speaker 2: to Dublin road trip, road trip, come on over and
Speaker 2: if you're in Dublin for the game Notre Dame and Navy.
Speaker 2: We'll put it out on social media, so we'll let
Speaker 2: you know. I know, we got something on Wednesday night
Speaker 2: of that week that we'll get together and if you
Speaker 2: can join us at a pub, then we'll let you
Speaker 2: know where we're going to be. We look forward to that.
Speaker 2: Tom in North Carolina. Hi, Tom, Hey, DP heybu Hey.
Speaker 16: Yeah, this is a reference in uh Todd's performance tomorrow night.
Speaker 16: You know all the great ones they you know, Jordan Brady,
Speaker 16: they all draw motivation from different places. They manufacture it.
Speaker 16: Uh So Todd's probably he's probably worried about more about
Speaker 16: the aftermath of what's gonna happen on Tomorrow night. So
Speaker 16: as far as his motivation, uh, there, it's gonna be
Speaker 16: kind of maybe a risk equals reward kind of thing.
Speaker 16: You know, maybe a Todd Fritz day. You know, maybe
Speaker 16: even a hug from Polly.
Speaker 2: Oh that ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Oh that's not true.
Speaker 2: A hug.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be very proud of Fritzy when he pulls
Speaker 3: us on. I think he's gonna crush it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 3: It's like I gave you a hug that one movie
Speaker 3: you did where lived? I thought you crushed it? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I thought you crushed it. I gave you a hug.
Speaker 3: It was a dark theater.
Speaker 2: No one saw it, I know.
Speaker 3: But like Fritzy tomorrow, I want him to crush it.
Speaker 2: Okay, who thinks Paulie wants Todd to crush it tomorrow?
Speaker 8: Give me Paullie, Sean Payton, I mean.
Speaker 2: Todd thinks. Do you think Paulie wants you to crush
Speaker 2: it tomorrow?
Speaker 12: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, man, are you foolish? Works either way for me
Speaker 2: this day in sports history, Paulie is.
Speaker 3: A big one. Jesse Owens nineteen thirty six won the
Speaker 3: first of his four Olympic gold medals in Berlin. That
Speaker 3: may just stand alone, but nineteen forty nine the NBA
Speaker 3: was formed merger between the Basketball Association of America and
Speaker 3: the National Basketball League. Nineteen eighty four, Mary lou Rettin
Speaker 3: won her first gold medal at the LA Summer Olympics.
Speaker 2: Right on this day. Nineteen eighty seven, Joe Nicro of
Speaker 2: the Twins caught with a nail file on the mound.
Speaker 2: He was suspended for ten games.
Speaker 7: That the greatest video of all times, like what like
Speaker 7: he put his hands up like I don't have anything there,
Speaker 7: and then the nail file comes out there, like watching.
Speaker 12: The umpire's head turned towards it as it hit the grounds,
Speaker 12: the batching it fly.
Speaker 2: Oh, Cash's so good, Todd, what'd you learn today?
Speaker 10: The sky may not be falling in college football, but
Speaker 10: it's certainly moving.
Speaker 7: No Conn, Oregon holds the future of college football in
Speaker 7: the palm of its name.
Speaker 5: Marvin, would you learn TV ruins the ruin the conference?
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