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Speaker 1: your pursuit of the new uniforms, hashtag tick talk, all
Speaker 1: the NonStop chatter that's out there, and the mockups of
Speaker 1: all your Cardinals concepts. Okay, it's entertaining, there's no doubt.
Speaker 1: But if you don't mind, Red Sea, and you would
Speaker 1: be so kind We're gonna talk some football for the
Speaker 1: next hour, if that's okay with everyone. Okay, just maybe
Speaker 1: allow people to pace themselves a little bit towards maybe
Speaker 1: potentially allegedly ostensibly a uniform unveiling between now in the draft,
Speaker 1: because Ron Wolfley, there are two kinds of people out there, Yes,
Speaker 1: those who saw the Cardinals Twitter teaser video with the
Speaker 1: coordinates and they drove out to the middle of the
Speaker 1: snore and desert looking for some evidence in new uniforms.
Speaker 1: And those who did not and who are willing to wait.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, guessing you're the latter and not the former. Yes, Paul, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I honestly right now, just whatever the uniform is, that's fine.
Speaker 1: Just give it to me, let me put it on,
Speaker 1: and I'll go out and drive somebody into the ground, Okay,
Speaker 1: or maybe Paul get driven into the ground. Because you know,
Speaker 1: people are just like the draft, people are overthinking these things.
Speaker 1: Because the Cardinal's draft hats came out well, and you
Speaker 1: know the Cardinals in the new draft hats, it's in yellow,
Speaker 1: So people are thinking that yellow is going to be
Speaker 1: a prominent part of the Cardinals new uniform scheme, possibly
Speaker 1: potential because because Jonathan and his name played at the
Speaker 1: owner's meetings. His first name was in yellow and then
Speaker 1: his last name was in a different color. So people
Speaker 1: are thinking, here comes yellow. Well, Paul, it is part
Speaker 1: of the beak. Yes, it is all right. So here
Speaker 1: we got interesting. What you're saying. You mess with the bird?
Speaker 1: What is that? Wolf? You might have to that's right, right,
Speaker 1: If you mess with the bird, you're gonna get the beak.
Speaker 1: There you go. You might have to bust it out
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Speaker 1: about pursuing a quarterback and taking down a quarterback. We'll
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Speaker 1: news coming up a little bit later here, but right
Speaker 1: off the top, Ron Wolfley, how about the Cardinals? The
Speaker 1: off season program begins with the strength and conditioning programming.
Speaker 1: You know what, we'll give first word to Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 1: here is he describes his first team meeting a lot
Speaker 1: of new sets of faces, a lot of new sets
Speaker 1: of eyes, and it was cool to talk to him
Speaker 1: the first time in person, very pleased with the attendance,
Speaker 1: knowing that it's voluntary, and you know the guys they
Speaker 1: are here, they were here for a reason and they
Speaker 1: want to win. How big a moment is that, do
Speaker 1: you think not only for just the head coach, but
Speaker 1: everybody who was in attendance, because guess what, there's a
Speaker 1: new decision maker in town. Yeah, Paul, I think it's
Speaker 1: a big deal. I really do you know? There are
Speaker 1: two things I'd love to see as a former player, PAULI.
Speaker 1: Number one, I'd love to go into an offensive line
Speaker 1: room and watch the offensive line coach grease it up
Speaker 1: on the board. Okay, Paul, that's number one. The second
Speaker 1: thing I'd love more than anything else is just to
Speaker 1: sit in the back of a room and watch a
Speaker 1: brand new head coach get up in front of his
Speaker 1: team and address his team for the first time. Paul,
Speaker 1: That to me, right there is a salient moment. It is.
Speaker 1: It's a definitive moment for any organization when he gets
Speaker 1: up in front of the team for the first time,
Speaker 1: because he's going to give you his culture. He's going
Speaker 1: to reveal to you what it is that he expects
Speaker 1: from you. Each player That's why I see that is
Speaker 1: a big deal, Paul. It reminds me of what we
Speaker 1: talked about to start the offseason when the Cardinals were
Speaker 1: searching for their next head coach, and it was something
Speaker 1: that Drew stan said on the Red Sea Report that
Speaker 1: there are plenty of head coaches who can grease it
Speaker 1: up right, the exes and os, I mean, they know football,
Speaker 1: but half of them are weeded out almost immediately, never
Speaker 1: get a second chance of being a head coach because
Speaker 1: or it's not a long lasting gig because they're not
Speaker 1: leader of men. And that's what you need in that
Speaker 1: head coach. That's what separates the head coach from a
Speaker 1: great coordinator. You need to be that leader. And so
Speaker 1: well as important it is for the coach, I'm guessing
Speaker 1: as a guy who spent ten years in an NFL
Speaker 1: locker room, in those meeting rooms, the players are also assessing, Okay,
Speaker 1: what is this head coach all about and what is
Speaker 1: he going to value in a team? Yeah, PAULI, And
Speaker 1: of course you only get an opportunity to make a
Speaker 1: first impression once. And that's why I was upset a
Speaker 1: little bit. I'll be truthful here in regard to not
Speaker 1: everybody being there. I think if you are under contract
Speaker 1: going forward with the Arizona Cardinals, man, I would love
Speaker 1: to see you attend that first meeting because you knew
Speaker 1: that Jonathan Gannon was going to get up there in
Speaker 1: front of the team and give you his view of
Speaker 1: what the new culture is going to be. This is
Speaker 1: a still point moment meeting as far as I'm concerned
Speaker 1: for this franchise and especially for the roster and the
Speaker 1: guys that are inside that locker room that are going
Speaker 1: to be competing for those roster spots. So once again,
Speaker 1: this is his opportunity to tell these guys exactly what
Speaker 1: it is that he expects from them. Paul and that
Speaker 1: to me, Man, if I were a player, I'd want
Speaker 1: to be there. I don't know about you, but I
Speaker 1: know i'd want to be there. Well, Hollywood Brown was there.
Speaker 1: We saw that Kyler Murray was there doing his own program,
Speaker 1: his own strength and conditioning program. We saw his video
Speaker 1: of him in the squat racks, so that was good
Speaker 1: to see. No Isaiah Simmons, from all accounts, James Connor
Speaker 1: was there. In fact, Jonathan Gannon gave James Conner a
Speaker 1: shoutout when asked to impressed him on day one of
Speaker 1: the strength program, he said, James Conner looked like you
Speaker 1: could curl my body weight. That was quoting JG directly.
Speaker 1: And then Zavin Collins he met the media and you know,
Speaker 1: look a lot of these defensive guys are trying to
Speaker 1: figure out, including Isaiah Simmons, what does a coach have
Speaker 1: in mind for them. Here's Zaban when he was asked
Speaker 1: what he wants his role to be. I want to
Speaker 1: do anything that exploits my talents and you know it
Speaker 1: helps me be the best player possible for this team.
Speaker 1: We'll have to see whenever we get rolling, So you know,
Speaker 1: it could be hired, it could be just solely one position,
Speaker 1: it could be you know, there's multiple positions that you
Speaker 1: can play, especially I think with my body type. So
Speaker 1: you got to be prepared to do that and do
Speaker 1: what the team needs rather than what I just want
Speaker 1: to do. And you think about it, well if okay,
Speaker 1: you think of Zamon Collins last year with the green
Speaker 1: dot the mic linebacker, but as he pointed out, he
Speaker 1: also played a number of snaps a good percentage of
Speaker 1: snaps on the edge in certain packages by vance Joseph
Speaker 1: just like Isaiah Simmons was used in the half different spots.
Speaker 1: So I mean, if you're one of these guys, I'm
Speaker 1: guessing you're real curious what the new coaching staff has
Speaker 1: in mind in terms of your role. Yeah, I am curious.
Speaker 1: I hope that Zavan Collins is a guy that's going
Speaker 1: to be kept at mike backer, and he's going to
Speaker 1: continue to grow, and he's going to continue to master
Speaker 1: this new defense that you're gonna put in here. I
Speaker 1: can tell you right now, I fully expect Savin Collins
Speaker 1: to explode, Paul. I think if there's one guy on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball that I expect to
Speaker 1: take a significant step forward, it's Saven Collins. Now, again,
Speaker 1: his rookie year, I think we'd all say it was disappointing.
Speaker 1: It was disappointing because you thought maybe he was going
Speaker 1: to come in and he was going to make a
Speaker 1: bigger impact his rookie year than he did. That did
Speaker 1: not happen. But his second year, incrementally, he got better. PAULI.
Speaker 1: From the very first game of that season to the
Speaker 1: end of the season, Zaven Collins I thought really grew
Speaker 1: an awful lot. I think he's getting ready to explode
Speaker 1: this year. In the reason why I say that is
Speaker 1: because of Jonathan Gannon and this defensive minded head coach
Speaker 1: that is going to come in here change this defense.
Speaker 1: And I think Paul, they're going to challenge Zaven Collins,
Speaker 1: and I think Zavin is the type of guy that
Speaker 1: is going to respond in a very positive way to
Speaker 1: that kind of challenge. I think he's going to learn
Speaker 1: an awful lot in a brand new defense, a brand
Speaker 1: new system. But I think more than anything else, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be new coaches and new voices looking at him
Speaker 1: saying this is who we see you to be, Now
Speaker 1: go be it. And he has a realistic assessment of
Speaker 1: himself and his play and his performance so far, at
Speaker 1: one point during his press conference saying, I had to
Speaker 1: earn the trust of the team leaders. So a lot
Speaker 1: of these first round picks think it needs to be
Speaker 1: handed to them. No, Zamon Collins does not have that
Speaker 1: that mindset. And as far as jan Jonathan Gannon goes,
Speaker 1: think about it, two years ago when he came into
Speaker 1: Philadelphia under Nick Sirianni, they had a four win team
Speaker 1: and two years later they were in Super Bowl fifty seven.
Speaker 1: Right here in the a Z. So if there's someone
Speaker 1: who's been there and done that, you know, just taking
Speaker 1: a team from four wins back to the playoffs, well,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon was asked what it does take do you
Speaker 1: get back to winning in all operations? Consistency? Because every
Speaker 1: team in the NFL shows flashes or glimpses of winning
Speaker 1: or winning behavior as I like to call it, you
Speaker 1: got to be able to do it consistently. And those
Speaker 1: are the teams that play in January and February, So
Speaker 1: that takes a good amount of time, depending on what
Speaker 1: situation you're in. But with the guys that we have
Speaker 1: right now in the room, I feel good about being
Speaker 1: more consistent this year. Sounds like he's talking about work
Speaker 1: habits and just the approach to your job, and that's
Speaker 1: really all you can do at this point in the
Speaker 1: season on the NFL calendar, But you can tell he's
Speaker 1: really particular about how things are done and what sort
Speaker 1: of intensity is brought to every aspect of the offseason program,
Speaker 1: at least so far. Yeah, PAULI never forget this. Great
Speaker 1: players are consistently great. That's why I love the fact
Speaker 1: he emphasized consistent great players are consistently great, Paul. That's
Speaker 1: the reason why I'm sorry. I look at Jailee Carter.
Speaker 1: I don't see somebody who is consistently great. I see
Speaker 1: a guy that is great every now and then, really
Speaker 1: great every now and then, and then just kind of average.
Speaker 1: That is a warning flag to me. Paul, Well, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a big question for Kyle Van and Bosch,
Speaker 1: a guy who went to Pro Bowls as an edge
Speaker 1: rusher and getting into the backfield. KVB will join us next.
Speaker 1: And by the way, that QB news Trace McSorley, former
Speaker 1: Cardinals quarterbacks, signs with the Patriots today and the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: according to reports, tried out Jeff driscoll, seven year veteran
Speaker 1: and been with five different teams Houston the last couple
Speaker 1: of years, because remember, they need another arm with Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray still on the comeback. Kyle Van Embosh next, then
Speaker 1: the big red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.
Speaker 1: I think most people believe that it'll be Bryce and CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud one two in some order. And then the biggest
Speaker 1: question is, you know, obviously who is number one, but
Speaker 1: then what do the Cardinals do after and do the
Speaker 1: Colts feel like they have to jump up and get somewhere,
Speaker 1: like basically like do the Colts trade to three or
Speaker 1: is someone else going to trade to three and get
Speaker 1: whoever they end up wanting? Like that's of all the
Speaker 1: draft questions. Now that number one has gone, what happens
Speaker 1: to three is probably as big a question as it get.
Speaker 1: And the bigger the question, the bigger the potential payout
Speaker 1: is to the Arizona Cardinals if they're sitting there at
Speaker 1: number three because Ron Wolfley, once again, what has been
Speaker 1: the Calvisi consunt consulting mantra from day one to this
Speaker 1: process and the off season A Z needs three three
Speaker 1: three viable quarterbacks. So then you know what, the Cardinals
Speaker 1: do have that choice. They do have choice. So somebody
Speaker 1: coming up clamoring for a quarterback like I don't know
Speaker 1: Indianapolis who has started a different quarterback in a season
Speaker 1: opener for seven straight years. You don't think they're desperate
Speaker 1: for their guys. So maybe just maybe they come up.
Speaker 1: But we've seen anything in everything in terms of the
Speaker 1: mock drafts, including this week, So wolf move over. Let's
Speaker 1: bring in Kyle van Embosch, former Cardinal Cardinals analysts KVB
Speaker 1: now on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford
Speaker 1: in Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Kyle. You've been maintaining yourself.
Speaker 1: We're two weeks away exactly from NFL Draft twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Let the anticipation wash over you. Oh man, I'm pumped.
Speaker 1: I tell you what I'm most pumped for. I'm pumped
Speaker 1: for mock draft season to be over and then soon
Speaker 1: after that draft great season to be over. Look. Look,
Speaker 1: those two things are about as accurate as cal VC predictions.
Speaker 1: So I'm just excited. You know, I'm I'm a black
Speaker 1: and white guy. Let's just get the draft over with,
Speaker 1: find out who we got, assess him and work with them,
Speaker 1: and move forward. All of this speculation drives me nuts. No,
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that one, Kyle, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And not only that too. So much of the time,
Speaker 1: even some of the most acclaimed, most talented rookies, you
Speaker 1: know they're not going to be able to make it
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's truly amazing. We've seen some massive
Speaker 1: bus and especially from a player's perspective, right now, it's
Speaker 1: one of the hardest things for me to do is
Speaker 1: look at a rookie and expect him to come in
Speaker 1: and actually change anything, let alone everything. And it's because
Speaker 1: of how many failures I've seen. I don't know about you.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Now? You're right and
Speaker 1: to me, look, I'm far from being a qualified GM.
Speaker 1: But but character, to me, matters just about as much
Speaker 1: as the measurables. I mean again, you know, I know
Speaker 1: you guys have talked about this in the past, but
Speaker 1: you know I would have taking Aidan Hutchinson with the
Speaker 1: number one pick overall last year just because of you know,
Speaker 1: he's got a motor. You know he's going to show
Speaker 1: up every day in practice. You know the kind of
Speaker 1: guy he is, and you know, the more time passes,
Speaker 1: I think these gms and these coaches get so enamored
Speaker 1: with measurables, with forty times, with hand size, with arm length,
Speaker 1: with you know, trying to break down every little piece
Speaker 1: of film. To me, it's the character. And with this
Speaker 1: coaching staff and with Jonathan Gannon, I think it is
Speaker 1: ultra important, especially since most of the free agent either
Speaker 1: the players we retained or the additions or one or
Speaker 1: two year contracts. So you want character guys that have
Speaker 1: you know the three, the four, the five year contracts,
Speaker 1: because they can be the cornerstone. They're the guys that
Speaker 1: can help build your organization. And and to me, this
Speaker 1: team needs to first establish that culture. They need to
Speaker 1: have guys that are high character guys, high motor, guys
Speaker 1: that know hot, be professionals. And then that's how you
Speaker 1: build the team. First. You don't just add still players
Speaker 1: in hope that the culture can develop within them. You
Speaker 1: bring in the character guys, You establish the culture, and
Speaker 1: then you figure out where we need to upgrade talent.
Speaker 1: All right, So we'll get into the Cardinals here specifically
Speaker 1: in a minute. But as long as we're talking character,
Speaker 1: we got to talk Jalen Carter. There are two kinds
Speaker 1: of gms right now in the NFL. Either you would
Speaker 1: or would not take Jalen Carter in the top ten.
Speaker 1: Drew stand earlier this week on the Red c Report
Speaker 1: said absolutely not. What says you, KBB, I wouldn't either. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that I don't know this for a fact,
Speaker 1: and I haven't heard. I'm assuming this team will probably
Speaker 1: be mostly four to three, probably go in and out
Speaker 1: of some odde fronts. But you know, I've always said,
Speaker 1: the most important player in that four three is your
Speaker 1: three technique. You need a dominant, explosive, disrupt the three technique.
Speaker 1: That is exactly what Jalen Carter is now saying that again.
Speaker 1: You know, I think the worst thing you can do
Speaker 1: with as much change that this team has seen is
Speaker 1: is draft the guy and hope, hope he matures, Hope
Speaker 1: he decides to make the correct decisions in the future
Speaker 1: when maybe he hasn't in the past. And the worst
Speaker 1: thing you could do is take a guy with high
Speaker 1: expectations that sucks the energy out of the room, that
Speaker 1: doesn't always want to be there, that doesn't play with
Speaker 1: all out effort on every play. And I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not here to criticize Jalen Carter. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: I think I've played with guys that we're not high character,
Speaker 1: guys that were phenomenal players, that were game changers, but
Speaker 1: more times than not they will fizzle out. So um,
Speaker 1: you know, I really respect his game. I think he
Speaker 1: will you know, he will probably be a dominant three
Speaker 1: technique or at least stay consistent three technique in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. If I'm GM, you know, with the
Speaker 1: inexperience that this team will have on the defensive line.
Speaker 1: I just don't know that I'm counting on a guy
Speaker 1: that has a bit of a checker pass. Well, here's
Speaker 1: what Marcus Spears on ESPN had to say recently about
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter and just why he'd make an immediate impact.
Speaker 1: One of the things you talk about defensive lineman, especially
Speaker 1: when they're young, is one how polished they are at
Speaker 1: the point of contact. How much balance do you have
Speaker 1: when you're getting bumped by other offensive lineman and the
Speaker 1: trash and the things that are around you. His feet
Speaker 1: stays off the ground, he never gets stuck, and his
Speaker 1: lower body, his laura have, doesn't get knocked off of
Speaker 1: his path to the football. That is immediate impact football
Speaker 1: players on the next level, and he'll be that for
Speaker 1: whoever takes him. So there you going, Marcus Spears on us,
Speaker 1: And look Wolf, if the Cardinals trade down, Let's say
Speaker 1: they make that trade with Tennessee and they're sitting there
Speaker 1: at eleven, they might have to contemplate that scenario where
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter is by far the best player on the board.
Speaker 1: But do they risk the character investment? Yeah, Paully, that
Speaker 1: is the big question right there, And I kind of
Speaker 1: fall with Kyle on this one right here. I just don't.
Speaker 1: I've just seen too many guys that had all the
Speaker 1: talent in the world and could not put it together.
Speaker 1: It really is the threefold nature of man polly, body,
Speaker 1: soul and spirit that has to be lined up and
Speaker 1: aligned to Goid and actually have success, sustained success on
Speaker 1: the field and off the field. And because of that,
Speaker 1: once again, I would just say, beware, how many guys
Speaker 1: have we already seen even in the organization. Robert Kimdici
Speaker 1: was a guy that, my goodness, I where the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals drafted him at the end of the first round.
Speaker 1: I felt like that was the that was the killer
Speaker 1: pick of that first round. And we all know how
Speaker 1: that ended for the most parts. And I would just
Speaker 1: say beware right now, I want a football player's mentality.
Speaker 1: I want football character, and I'm sure Jag probably is
Speaker 1: looking for the same thing, and so is Montie Austin Ford.
Speaker 1: All Right, it's a big red rage here, presented by
Speaker 1: Santan Ford and Gilbert ron Wolfley. There Paul Calves he
Speaker 1: joined by Kyle Vanabosh. Kyle, did you see the mel
Speaker 1: Kiper latest mock draft this week, whereas a Cardinal's trading
Speaker 1: down with Tennessee going from three to eleven and in return,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals get number eleven, number forty one in this
Speaker 1: year's draft, and then a twenty twenty four round one
Speaker 1: pick and in two twenty five round one or round
Speaker 1: two pick. Would you pull the trigger on that deal? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it depends where Will Anderson falls in their eyes. To me,
Speaker 1: he's a can't miss. He's he plays with consistency, and
Speaker 1: I think he can be that dude. I think he
Speaker 1: can be the cornerstone guy. He can be your difference
Speaker 1: maker on the deep into line. Um. Now saying that
Speaker 1: this is a team that has a lot of holes,
Speaker 1: I mean, you lose you know, maybe your top cover guy,
Speaker 1: you lose your top two interior pass rushers, um, and
Speaker 1: you know you've you've you can still upgrade a lot
Speaker 1: of positions on this roster. And with that type of
Speaker 1: draft capital um that you're that you'd get in return,
Speaker 1: I think it would be hard to turn down. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, to me again, which where this team's at.
Speaker 1: You know we're going to be trying to fill a
Speaker 1: bunch of holes again next season and the next season
Speaker 1: with the one or two year contracts that that we
Speaker 1: offered in the free agents that we signed. UM signed, UM,
Speaker 1: I think we want some a little bit of stability.
Speaker 1: I think we want some rookies that we have some control,
Speaker 1: that we can develop, that will UM that we can
Speaker 1: build this organization around and not have to be in
Speaker 1: the same situation every year where you know, we've got
Speaker 1: thirty thirty five pending free agents and we're costly trying
Speaker 1: to replug holes in the damn so UM. You know
Speaker 1: that's I think that's where we need to get is UM.
Speaker 1: You know, at least have enough guys on this roster,
Speaker 1: you know, six seven on offense, six seven on defense
Speaker 1: that are under multi year contracts, and then you then
Speaker 1: you're able to just fill the holes in and possibly
Speaker 1: upgrade those other spots. Kyle, who are the best quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in this draft? Can you rank them for us? The
Speaker 1: top three quarterbacks as you see it? Sure well? Let
Speaker 1: me let me uh put an asterisk by that saying
Speaker 1: I hate quarterbacks, and UM, I'm not. I'm not a
Speaker 1: great evaluator because my blood boils every time I sit
Speaker 1: there and try to break down a quarterback. But I think, Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Bryce Young will probably be the
Speaker 1: number one pick. Um. You know, I think everybody um
Speaker 1: is trying to pick him apart um, you know, because
Speaker 1: of his size, and but I you know, I think
Speaker 1: he's going to be the pick. And then down the list,
Speaker 1: I think it'll be CJ. Strout and then somebody can
Speaker 1: take I think that they can develop Anthony Richardson, get
Speaker 1: get him more accurate, and develop a game plan around
Speaker 1: his very very unique skill set. And no than a
Speaker 1: couple more that really intrigued me, or Will Levison, Hendon
Speaker 1: Hooker Well, and a lot of antos are saying that
Speaker 1: Hendon Hooker's sec film far exceeds Anthony Richardson or Will
Speaker 1: Levis last year, so that I think he is a
Speaker 1: complete wild card in this draft. Hendon Hooker coming off
Speaker 1: the knee injury. What's interesting is Anthony and Richardson. He
Speaker 1: visited with the Colts yesterday. He's going to visit with
Speaker 1: Tennessee on Monday. Okay, good, those are two teams who
Speaker 1: good potentially make the Cardinals an offer they can't refuse.
Speaker 1: Will Levis is in Atlanta today, so we'll see about that.
Speaker 1: If the Falcons want themselves, some Will Levis. But getting
Speaker 1: back to Will Anderson real quick and overthinking things. Charles
Speaker 1: davis Is two point mock draft came out today had
Speaker 1: the Cardinals taking Tyree Wilson and number three. Chris Simms
Speaker 1: that Tyree Wilson had a Will Anderson and a couple
Speaker 1: other guys ahead a Will Anderson. What do you make
Speaker 1: of that? And you think the Cardinals maybe if they're
Speaker 1: sitting there a number three and there's no potential trade
Speaker 1: offers and Will Anderson is on the board as everyone expects,
Speaker 1: do you think maybe they go another direction? Yeah? So
Speaker 1: to answer your question, what the first question? Again, I
Speaker 1: think it's people over thinking it. I think people are
Speaker 1: looking at measurables, thinking that they can get more out
Speaker 1: of a player than they've seen in the past, which
Speaker 1: which obviously you do you hope to do with every
Speaker 1: single draft pick. But you know, to me, outside of
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, there's no bigger slam dunk in this draft. No,
Speaker 1: you know, I am not a betting man, but if
Speaker 1: I had to put money down on which player other
Speaker 1: than a quarterback will be a future Pro bowler, it
Speaker 1: would be Will Anderson. I mean he to me, he
Speaker 1: checks all the boxes. Especially he's not just a pass rusher,
Speaker 1: but in his pass rush, he's got such an explosive
Speaker 1: first step. He's able to bend, he's able to corner,
Speaker 1: he can close quickly, and in spite of you know,
Speaker 1: it looks like maybe he could add more weight to
Speaker 1: his frame, he might not be stout. He's really good
Speaker 1: with his hands, and he uses his leverage well and
Speaker 1: plays the run game well. So you know, there's you
Speaker 1: can just look at what he did, you can look
Speaker 1: at his production. You can look at the fact that
Speaker 1: he was SEC Defensive Player of the Year two years
Speaker 1: in a row, which you know, you're talking about the
Speaker 1: best conference in college football, or at least the most
Speaker 1: talented conference in college football, and he's been the best
Speaker 1: defender at two consecutive years. I think I think a
Speaker 1: team is getting too cute when you're trying to pick
Speaker 1: somebody or try to reason a way that another player
Speaker 1: might be better, more productive and had to have a
Speaker 1: better career than Williamson. Yeah, I'm with them one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Kyle's it's his football i Q and his football character
Speaker 1: that I absolutely love and want to see the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals get out I'm in the danger zone when it
Speaker 1: comes to Will Anderson. It's Will Anderson or bust to
Speaker 1: me for the Arizona Cardinals, I want the guy that bad,
Speaker 1: although I will tell you I'd like to see him
Speaker 1: trade with the Colts, get down to number four, actually
Speaker 1: pick up a couple of picks and still get Will
Speaker 1: Anderson at number four. Oh you know what, Adam Schefter
Speaker 1: tweeting to start this week, they've quote at least six
Speaker 1: teams have inquired about trading for that number three pick,
Speaker 1: and then someone through out there that Houston could take
Speaker 1: will Anderson at number two and then go from twelve
Speaker 1: to three with the Cardinals and take the QB after
Speaker 1: will Anderson. So we've seen it and heard it all
Speaker 1: at this point. It is silly season. There's no doubt. Kyle.
Speaker 1: Thanks as always, we appreciate it. Have a good rest
Speaker 1: of a week. We continue with a big red rage
Speaker 1: presented by santan Ford and Gilbert right after this, and
Speaker 1: gives them line quickly snapping it to Murray. It's a
Speaker 1: play fake. Murray setting up looking deep now takes off
Speaker 1: running the right at the thirty five, at the forty
Speaker 1: and dives to about the forty four yard line, a
Speaker 1: gain of three for Kyler Murray and I'm injured hard now.
Speaker 1: It's Kyler who went down very awkwardly that time as
Speaker 1: he tried to cut, oh, no non contact, the cut right,
Speaker 1: then tried to cut left and just buckle. And there
Speaker 1: was a Patriot player right there who called to the
Speaker 1: cardinal sideline to bring on the training staff. I think
Speaker 1: we all remember where we were. I was right down
Speaker 1: to the sideline. It was right in front of me.
Speaker 1: Just the manner in which he went down. It was
Speaker 1: so awkward, and I think it took a moment for
Speaker 1: some folks, but the sideline knew it. They knew it
Speaker 1: right away. And sure enough, a season ending knee injury
Speaker 1: suffered by Kyler Murray late in the season. And he
Speaker 1: is now three months into his rehab coming off knee
Speaker 1: surgery and he he very much looks like he is
Speaker 1: on schedule, if not beyond schedule at this point based
Speaker 1: on what we have seen and heard. It is the
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. We
Speaker 1: are santan Ford, Paul kelvc Ron locally special thanks to
Speaker 1: Kyle Vanabosh, and you know we let Kyle go because
Speaker 1: of his hatred for quarterbacks, and that's what we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about right now, Walf and the old Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray things. So okay, just give me your thoughts on
Speaker 1: what the challenge here is. You're trying to get the
Speaker 1: reset button on everything in the organization, yet you're missing
Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback for who knows how long, just the
Speaker 1: uncertainty alone. What do you think that does for this
Speaker 1: team at this moment? Yeah, Paul, you know it's not
Speaker 1: good that much. I will tell you right now. You
Speaker 1: would like to see him out there as you're trying
Speaker 1: to install this brand new offense. You'd like to see
Speaker 1: him be able to go out on the field and
Speaker 1: execute the plays. It's one thing to sit in the
Speaker 1: meeting room and get all the terminology down and these schemes,
Speaker 1: of course, to be able to execute those schemes, but
Speaker 1: it's quite another thing to actually go out onto the
Speaker 1: field and do it. And you'd love to be able
Speaker 1: to see Kyler do that. That is not going to
Speaker 1: be the case right now, and I think that will
Speaker 1: be the biggest challenge for him going forward, to learn
Speaker 1: the system in the classroom and then not be able
Speaker 1: to go out on the field and execute it. He's
Speaker 1: going to have to imagine the way that is like
Speaker 1: until he is able to go out on the field
Speaker 1: and do that. I think that's going to be the
Speaker 1: biggest challenge for him going forward. And he has company
Speaker 1: in the rehab department, especially when it comes to knee injury.
Speaker 1: Zach Ertz, Cardinals tight end. He was talking to the
Speaker 1: media today. He's also trying to make his own comeback
Speaker 1: this offseason, and zach Ertz was asked about Kyler's rehab.
Speaker 1: Everyone's programs different. Some people have people squatting early, some
Speaker 1: people don't. Kyle looks good. He looks like he's in
Speaker 1: great spirits. I don't know. I'm not a strength coach.
Speaker 1: I can't say how the video looked. But I know
Speaker 1: everyone left seeing it that he is attacking this thing.
Speaker 1: And I don't think anyone's surprised by that. He's talking
Speaker 1: about the video posters of social media Kyler Murray in
Speaker 1: the squat rack, right, And I mean, I know it
Speaker 1: exceeded my expectations at this point, three months after knee
Speaker 1: surgery and he's squatting a considerable amount of weight. So
Speaker 1: but I guess My question is Wolf, how different is
Speaker 1: his comeback just based on the style of quarterback he plays.
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, we saw Joe Burrow come
Speaker 1: back and Joe Burrow and it was a work in progress.
Speaker 1: He certainly was not one hundred percent when he returned
Speaker 1: mid season for the Bengals, but he operated almost primarily
Speaker 1: from the pocket. That's not really Kyler's game. So what
Speaker 1: do you think that means in terms of his comeback? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that is the question mark right there, PAULI, it really is.
Speaker 1: There are no guarantees. I do believe that Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: needs to go under center. You know my take on this.
Speaker 1: I've talked to you about it many many times. We've
Speaker 1: had this conversation, and I think it ultimately will help him.
Speaker 1: But whether he's under center, in the shotgun or in
Speaker 1: the pistol all the time right now, the biggest adversary,
Speaker 1: the biggest nemesis of Kyler Murray, is going to be
Speaker 1: himself and what his brain is telling him. You've got
Speaker 1: to get over this. It's a hard thing to do.
Speaker 1: Every professional athlete that suffers a serious injury, and that's
Speaker 1: exactly what Kyler suffered when he blew that acl out.
Speaker 1: It's a serious injury. You've got to mentally be able
Speaker 1: to get on top of it and overcome it. Physically
Speaker 1: is one thing, and it looks like, based on the
Speaker 1: footage we've seen, it looks like Kyler Murray is coming
Speaker 1: along with this rehab and doing it beautifully right now,
Speaker 1: and physically it looks like he's healing. Mental is what
Speaker 1: matters the most, though. Mentally you've got to get on
Speaker 1: top of it and get over it. When that happens
Speaker 1: for Kyler, we'll see there's no MRI or x ray.
Speaker 1: That's right, your mentals, as Marshawn Lynch might say, right. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a great unknown. Look, Kyler has been around the
Speaker 1: building this offseason a lot, and so he's investing the
Speaker 1: time in the rehab. Yet the Cardinals also know that
Speaker 1: he's not going to be available right away for an
Speaker 1: undetermined amount of time, So it is going to come
Speaker 1: up to the backup quarterbacks, right And here's Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 1: when he was asked about QB two colt. I think
Speaker 1: he's doing great. I mean he's gets a little extra
Speaker 1: work here and there, but he's ready to go and
Speaker 1: happy where Kyler's at David as well, So like where
Speaker 1: that room's at and where they're going, is that going
Speaker 1: to be a competition between Colt and David. Everything's a competition.
Speaker 1: Let that hang for a minute. Everything is a competition.
Speaker 1: And I was sitting right there in that presscome so
Speaker 1: we said it. I mean, he just it had a
Speaker 1: different intonation to it, had a different look when he
Speaker 1: said everything is a competition. I'm guessing Wolf when in
Speaker 1: doubt he's going to fall back on that in trying
Speaker 1: to reset the culture of the Cardinals. Yeah, Paully, and
Speaker 1: this is why it's so important that guys show up
Speaker 1: and they buy into the program and they model the
Speaker 1: culture that is going to be out there. He said that,
Speaker 1: Paully with so much conviction and said it without any
Speaker 1: hesitation whatsoever. But he also said it with in a
Speaker 1: very matter of fact kind of way. Everything's a competition.
Speaker 1: Guess what is going to be part of the culture
Speaker 1: of the new Arizona Cardinals. Everything is a competition. And
Speaker 1: I think of Ken Wizzenhunt immediately when Ken Wisenhunt came
Speaker 1: in as the first year coach, second year coach of
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, he really that was a point of
Speaker 1: emphasis he brought to this team, and the team ultimately
Speaker 1: responded to that. But he made everything a competition on
Speaker 1: the field, and I think that's what JG's going to do.
Speaker 1: On the field and off the field. Everything's going to
Speaker 1: be a competition, and I love the matter of fact
Speaker 1: way he set it, including the quarterback spot with Ken
Speaker 1: wizzenunt right with Kurt Warner and Matt la that was
Speaker 1: a big time competition Cardinals camp that year. So he
Speaker 1: referenced Cole McCoy, who, by the way, has a side
Speaker 1: hustle this offseason. He's an analyst on the USFL telecasts.
Speaker 1: So Cole McCoy is gonna be working on the USFL broadcast,
Speaker 1: So a good gig for him there. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: doing that on the weekends and then being Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: QB during the week David Blout an other quarterback, and
Speaker 1: then we got news today reports at least that the
Speaker 1: Cardinals tried out Jeff Driscoll, twenty nine year old NFL
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback. Seven years in the league. He's had ten
Speaker 1: starts five different teams. Cardinals most definitely are in the
Speaker 1: market for another quarterback right well, if nothing else, they
Speaker 1: just need another arm. Yeah, no, that's what it is
Speaker 1: right now, Polly. I don't know who they're gonna get,
Speaker 1: who they're going to go out and sign, but that's
Speaker 1: basically what they're looking for. Definitely, it might not be
Speaker 1: just one. It might be actually two arms they bring
Speaker 1: in to camp as well, depending on Colt Coy and
Speaker 1: how well he's healing and how quickly he's recovering. But
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, this is the way that it's gonna
Speaker 1: go right up until training camp. Get ready for multiple quarterbacks, Paul.
Speaker 1: And you know what, just the mention of Jeff Driscoll
Speaker 1: brings me back to the Houston Texans and the draft
Speaker 1: last year they played Davis Mills, Kyle Allen, and Jeff driscoll.
Speaker 1: Are you telling me they're not taking a quarterback at
Speaker 1: number two? Come on, of course they are. Of course,
Speaker 1: Indianapolis taking a quarterback at least at number four, if
Speaker 1: not trading up to number three when they've started a
Speaker 1: different quarterback in a season opener seven straight years. So
Speaker 1: I'm not buying all this other noise and smoke screens
Speaker 1: out there. By the way, the Cardinals home schedule includes
Speaker 1: the Giants, Cowboys, Ravens, Falcons, Bengals. How about that Godasy
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Speaker 1: We continue with a Big Red Rage. We'll talk receiver next.
Speaker 1: I'm the seventeen yard line of the Bengals loaning. The
Speaker 1: shotgun was five wide. There is just snap they rushed four.
Speaker 1: There's a wine cry thrown near side, leaping two at it,
Speaker 1: find out catching the end zone put for the Ram touchdown.
Speaker 1: Odell Peckham Junior near shide of the end zone, leaping high,
Speaker 1: bringing it down. Matthew Stafford is just throwing a seventeen
Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass for the Rams. They're taking a ewe
Speaker 1: lead in Super Bowl fifty six. Well that Kevin Harland
Speaker 1: Westwood won that flashback. That was the thrill of victory,
Speaker 1: agony of injury for Odell Beckham Junior in that game
Speaker 1: the touchdown, he also at a knee injury that wiped
Speaker 1: out his two twenty two season as he needed surgery.
Speaker 1: And now the big question is all right with OBJ
Speaker 1: off the market, what does that mean for d hop
Speaker 1: As we wrap up this edition to the Big Red
Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert we Are, Santan Ford,
Speaker 1: Paul kelbc, Ron Wolf Wan Odell Beckham Junior to the
Speaker 1: Ravens a one year deal worth fifteen million guaranteed. He
Speaker 1: got the big money up to eighteen million potentially for
Speaker 1: the thirty year old coming off an ACL injury that
Speaker 1: wiped out all of last season. Wolf. Just the degree
Speaker 1: of surprise when you saw that transaction, Yeah, no, Pollie,
Speaker 1: I was shocked. And you know, we tend to think
Speaker 1: I think of OBJ is being this really young guy
Speaker 1: when he's thirty years old. You know, he is thirty
Speaker 1: years old, And I honestly was surprised that there was
Speaker 1: this kind of resolution on OBJ when I think DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins is a much better receiver. That's just me. I
Speaker 1: totally agree, And I really wonder what it makes the
Speaker 1: other teams out there to think about the future DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1: How much more willing might they be to get a
Speaker 1: deal done to pay the big money that you know
Speaker 1: d Hop wants, but also give the Cardinals the compensation
Speaker 1: they seek. In fact, here's Adam Schefter about how he
Speaker 1: keeps hearing about d Hop from all the fans. Listen.
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of people stop me at gas stations. Hey,
Speaker 1: the Buffalo bill is gonna trade for DeAndre Hopkins. No,
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not gonna trade for DeAndre Hopkins. And
Speaker 1: they're Jet's gonna No. I don't believe they are either.
Speaker 1: And so there are only really a select few teams
Speaker 1: here that makes sense, that are realistic, and DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 1: I think it's to dictate where he'd like to go.
Speaker 1: And again, you've got to find a team with the space,
Speaker 1: the need, the willingness to compensate hours. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of factors involved. Everybody looks at it and just says,
Speaker 1: go get DeAndre Hopkins. And when you tweet something announced
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, it's just not as simple as that. As
Speaker 1: great as he has been for as long as he's been,
Speaker 1: all right, So the difference between OBJ and T hop
Speaker 1: obviously is that not only do you have to pay him,
Speaker 1: but you had to pay the team he's coming from,
Speaker 1: sort of like the Sean Payton equation. If you wanted
Speaker 1: Sean Payton as a head coach, you had to pay
Speaker 1: him the big money, but he also had to give
Speaker 1: the Saints compensation in terms of assets of some sort.
Speaker 1: So if you're Kansas City, if you're New England, if
Speaker 1: you're the Bills, the Jets, Tennessee, all teams that reportedly
Speaker 1: have had interest in DeAndre Hopkins at some point, Well,
Speaker 1: how viable do you think it still is that between
Speaker 1: now and the draft a deal is done. Yeah. Probably,
Speaker 1: it's a great question right there. But honestly, I still
Speaker 1: think because of d hop because of his raw unmitigated talent,
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be moved, and he's going
Speaker 1: to be moved before the drafts if it's the draft day, possibly, Okay,
Speaker 1: i'd be open to that. I think that's a possibility.
Speaker 1: But I still think even before the draft, even the
Speaker 1: day before or the week before the draft, I think
Speaker 1: he's going to be moved. This is right now, prime time,
Speaker 1: This is the peak of the draft, supter feud season
Speaker 1: right now, But I think D hop is going to
Speaker 1: be moved before the draft, Paul, Because I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what a CALVC consulting shout out to Andy Reid and
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and Sean McDermott. Guess what. This is a shallow,
Speaker 1: weak draft in terms of receivers. There is no certainty
Speaker 1: you're going to find a rookie, especially who's gonna be
Speaker 1: plug in play what's left on the free agent market.
Speaker 1: It's really d Hop and a huge step down after that.
Speaker 1: So I do believe that somebody will recognize the value
Speaker 1: and we'll give up the assets and the salary needed
Speaker 1: to get a deal done. So right now, the Cardinals
Speaker 1: have eight picks. They might have nine or more just
Speaker 1: based on a d Hop trade. They might even have
Speaker 1: more than that if they trade out a number three wolf.
Speaker 1: As we're two weeks away from NFL Draft twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: breakdown your best case scenario or two. Yeah, Paul, you know,
Speaker 1: for me, once again, what I'd love to see happen
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals. This is just pine the sky,
Speaker 1: but it's what I'd love to see the Cardinals trade
Speaker 1: with the Indianapolis Colts. They move back to number four,
Speaker 1: they collect a couple of nice picks, and then suddenly
Speaker 1: they draft Will Anderson at number four because the Colts
Speaker 1: want to move up to number three to get a quarterback.
Speaker 1: And whether that's CJ. Stroud or it's Anthony Richardson, who
Speaker 1: whether it's Bryce Young, we don't think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, but whatever it is, they move up to
Speaker 1: number three and they get one of those quarterbacks, maybe
Speaker 1: even Will love us right there, and the Cardinals get
Speaker 1: Will Anderson at number four. Oh my goodness, Paul, wouldn't
Speaker 1: that be great? That would that would be a dumb
Speaker 1: move back and still get Will Anderson. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: we have a winner. Then the other scenario is very
Speaker 1: interesting as well. What if Houston takes Will Anderson at
Speaker 1: number two right in front of the Arizona Cardinals. That
Speaker 1: means CJ. Stroud is still going to be out there,
Speaker 1: or that might mean Bryce Young is still going to
Speaker 1: be out there at number three, And that's when the
Speaker 1: number three pick goes right through the ceiling. That's when
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the phone calls start coming in
Speaker 1: and teams want to move up to that number three
Speaker 1: spot and they give the Arizona Cardinals a boatload of picks.
Speaker 1: That to me, would be the best case scenario. Because
Speaker 1: Will Anderson is off the board. The Houston Texans took
Speaker 1: him right in front of you. That makes it an
Speaker 1: easy decision to say, that guy's off the board, let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and collect a boatload of picks and then
Speaker 1: will draft guys. I that to me is scenario number two.
Speaker 1: How about you? Yeah, two years ago the Niners went
Speaker 1: from twelve to three and they gave up three first
Speaker 1: round picks and they took Trey Lance. So that'll do.
Speaker 1: I'll take that. Or what mel kiper once again throughout
Speaker 1: there earlier this week that if the Cardinals went from
Speaker 1: three to eleven, very similar to that Niners trade back
Speaker 1: in the day with Miami, that the Cardinals will get
Speaker 1: number eleven, number forty one, and then in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four round one pick and then in twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: or round one or a round two. Right. In fact,
Speaker 1: Meli even went a little bit farther and he said, okay,
Speaker 1: he forecasts you the Ardinoalds would take this year that
Speaker 1: at number eleven, they would go ahead and take Tyree
Speaker 1: Wilson at number thirty four, their own second round pick,
Speaker 1: they would take the receiver out of TCU Quentin Johnston,
Speaker 1: big receiver X receiver, and then at forty one, which
Speaker 1: they get from Tennessee, they would take that defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: that game wrecker on the interior D line they need
Speaker 1: so desperately from Michigan. Mazi Smith six three three twenty
Speaker 1: three with ridiculous athleticism. So you know what, you look
Speaker 1: at that scenario, plus you get a first rounder in
Speaker 1: twenty four and potentially a first rounder in twenty five. Yes,
Speaker 1: I would trade out at number three. Yeah, PAULI, that
Speaker 1: would be just killer if you could actually do that.
Speaker 1: But to me again, Will Anderson, I think he's a
Speaker 1: still point player. I think he is a guy that
Speaker 1: not only impacts the game in a very tangible kind
Speaker 1: of way in between the white lines, but also intangibly.
Speaker 1: I think the intangibles that he brings to a locker
Speaker 1: room and the impact he would have on his teammates
Speaker 1: around him. This is the perfect guy to build your
Speaker 1: culture on and build your culture around him. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm so high on him. But having said that, once again,
Speaker 1: if the Houston Texans are going to take him at
Speaker 1: number two, man sell the farm. And once again, the
Speaker 1: Texans the last few years have run the likes of
Speaker 1: Davis Mills out there and Kyle Alan and Jeff Driscol.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me now. Then again, Demiko Ryans, we
Speaker 1: were talking about this earlier, were we not wolf that
Speaker 1: Damiko Ryans wants himself and Nick Bosa you know that,
Speaker 1: and Will Anderson would be that guy, and Houston has
Speaker 1: a reputation of overthinking it. What did they do last year?
Speaker 1: They took Derek Stingley Junior ahead of Sauce Gardner. So
Speaker 1: the Texans do have a history, Nick as Sario and
Speaker 1: company of maybe overthinking and get a little paralysis by
Speaker 1: over analysis. Hey at Season six, episode two, A Cardinal's
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