WEBVTT - Highway to the Future 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:06.560 On last week's episode, we discussed the future of connected 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:10.000 wearables and smart clothing. We heard from Paul de Linger, 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:13.280 head of Global Product Innovation for Levi Strauss, who is 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:18.239 developing connected clothing, Paul Winsbur, VP of athlete Performance under Armour, 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:22.480 who is creating clothing that uses data to boost athletic performance, 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:26.720 and Natasha Frank, founder and CEO of the startup Eon, 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:31.200 who is leveraging smartship technology to connect consumers to manufacturers 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:44.479 to drive better sustainability and new customer experiences. The automobile 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.000 has forever changed the way we're able to reach one 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:51.400 another and stay connected over great distances, but imagine a 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.280 future where our cars could connect to each other. The 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.560 next generation of wireless innovation with future five gen networks 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.720 will create new opportunities for connect to consume humors and 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:04.480 the ever changing landscape of the automotive industry. Thanks to 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:08.680 support from Temobile for Business Today would explore how advancements 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:12.679 in five G connectivity will enable innovations in transportation that 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:29.440 will shape the way consumers travel and commute. We're trying 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.440 to evolve and reinvent rental, and we need to evolve 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.600 to meet it with the vehicles that people want to utilize, 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:40.120 and then how we manage those vehicles, which is primarily 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.160 now going to be data driven. And that also means 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.399 that we have to communicate not only really well with 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.000 our customers, we have to communicate really well and in 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:54.080 real time with our cars. That's Arthur or Dounia, chief 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.559 innovation officer at Avis Budget Group, the global car rental 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.200 company that also owns the popular car sharing of his 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:04.000 zip car. Right now, we maintain on average about anywhere 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:07.080 between five hundreds and six hundred thousand global fleet because 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.000 we go up and down, so we ended the year 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.480 well over two hundred thousand of our fleet now completely connected. 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.080 Also makes a distinction between the regular fleet and the 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:21.080 connected fleet, and an important part of his responsibility is 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.920 to make sure more and more of the fleet is connected. 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.120 What does it mean to be able then to talk 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.960 to a car and have that car talked to us. 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:35.880 There really isn't an industry standard definition. Our definition is 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:40.959 really tied to about five requirements. So we leverage GPS 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:45.120 to give us real time location. We use telemetry in 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.760 the car to give us the second requirement, which is 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.480 real time mileage. We want to know how many miles 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.360 are on that car at any given point. The third 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.800 is fuel. We want to know two within a tenth 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.200 of a gallon or a leader, how much few was 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.160 in that car if it's an internal combustion engine, or 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.000 what percentage of charge if it's a hybrid or an 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:10.760 e V. The fourth is real time communication with the 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:14.400 other systems of the car, so low tire pressure is 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:18.560 one example. And then the fifth one is lock unlocked 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:23.240 slash immobilization remotely like through the cloud, and that's what 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:28.480 is key for zip car. What Arthur describes and the 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.840 way people can now interact with connected cars is radically 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.639 different from what it was like to rent a car 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.280 just ten years ago. But it was normal to wait 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.800 in line and haphazardly looked for your car in a 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:43.280 sea of similar looking vehicles. And the businesses who oversee 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.360 large fleets of vehicles, whether car rental, right sharing, or 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:51.120 even mass transit, there are powerful commercial benefits to having 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:55.480 more data about utilization. One of the technological advancements that 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.760 has allowed for many of these changes to take place 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.560 is improved wireless networks, but we're on at the beginning 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.320 of that story. In this episode, we look at how 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:08.000 five G could transform mobility, whether you're renting a connected 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:12.680 car or riding in a fully autonomous vehicle. I'm as Rushian, 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:20.080 welcome to this time tomorrow, So Carol. When I think 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.400 about all the advancements that have come along since the 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.920 smartphone and four G, some of the first that come 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.280 to mind are related to how we get around and 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.000 when was the last time you bought a guide book 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.320 when you went to a new city. Now I don't 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.280 do that. Um, I turned my phone on when I arrive, 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.320 and I use Google Maps to figure out if there's 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.040 public transportation to get me where I'm going, and if 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.520 there isn't, I call Uber and I find somewhere to 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.599 go to launch on Yelp. And then sometimes if I 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.520 have landed and don't know where to stay, yes, that happens, 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.800 I look on Airbnb, right, I mean, I confess I 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:58.359 have actually bought guidebooks very recently pas scroll within the 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.279 last three months. But even at home, you know, we 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.960 can access bike shares, figure out when to leave here 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:05.799 on the subway, so we arrive at work on time, 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.200 look at live traffic, pick a route accordingly. In fact, 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.840 qualcom who we spoke to an episode one and who 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.480 make the chips that power many four G devices. Were 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:18.400 early investors in ways the mapping software, presumally because they 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:22.040 believe mobility could be transformed by connectivity. Yeah, you know, 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:26.680 nobody could have predicted exactly how four G would transform mobility, 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.440 but the effects have been huge. You and I were 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.240 at cs a little ways back in Las Vegas, and 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:37.479 we saw so many booths where companies were discussing how 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.440 the future five G networks might transform different parts of transportation, 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:45.799 everything from autonomous vehicles to drones to my personal favorite, 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.040 last mile logistics, which is how a package will get 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:52.320 to my house package queen. But there are potential benefits 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.320 from five G in the world and mobility in everything 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.919 from easing traffic congestion to safety and even mitigating environment 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.760 an impact through more efficient traffic networks. And then of 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.320 course there's making better customer experiences. And then of course 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:10.279 there are the long promised self driving cars. I feel 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.160 like there's a little bit of self driving car fatigue 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.960 because we've been talking about them for so long. But 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.760 a few months ago I actually saw a really interesting 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.640 article about a company called Voyage, who are pioneering autonomous 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:26.320 vehicles in retirement communities and this struck me as a 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.640 super interesting use case. So I actually got to speak 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:33.119 to the CEO and founder, Oliver Cameron, and I spoke 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.279 to Marcus Wells, who you and I met at CS 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.920 and who runs the intelligent traffic systems business for Siemens 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.880 here in the US. His experience is in intelligent infrastructure, 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:45.960 and we talked about how five G could change the 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.120 way we use public transport. Before we get there, though, 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.800 let's go back to Arthur and how he's working to 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:58.640 integrate technology and connectivity to transform AVIS budgets business. The 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:02.520 problem set that rental solves is not going to go 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.840 away anytime in the near or long term future, because 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.400 that problem, said is, Hey, I don't have access to 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.240 the car or the vehicle that I own. I'm in 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.280 the next city over, or I'm on the other side 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.400 of the world. I need some mobility. So I think 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.240 today and for the last seven years, that solution has 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.960 been here's a car. Do you need it for an hour, 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.640 then become a zip car member. Do you need it 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.440 for a couple of weeks or for a couple of days, 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.640 then here's Avis or here's budget. In order to improve 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.360 on the experience, of renting a car, whether for an 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.240 hour or for a few days. Avi's budget didn't simply 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:41.320 chase new technology. They turned to their uses. We took 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:46.120 a product design approach to solve a customer problem. So 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.040 we actually began with a customer journey that said, how 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:53.040 do people consume our product today? Instead of just saying, oh, 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.920 let's create a new mobile app and make it look pretty. 0:07:56.040 --> 0:08:00.320 We identified the key problem, such including not wanting to 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.040 stand in line, and said, okay, how do we actually 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.240 then create a solution for that. Oh, well, it ought 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.440 to be in people's pockets so that they can discover 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.880 at any time and utilize it. Oh, they don't want 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:11.640 to stand in the counter, they want to bypass it. 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.240 Oh that sounds cool. Oh it's if it's a connected 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.760 car and it's raining out there, Can we just make 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:18.440 sure you can turn on the lights or hank the 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.080 horn there it is, and then unlock the car really quickly? 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.960 Can I get out of this parking lot or out 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.240 of this garage really quickly? If we can authenticate that 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.720 it's the right person in the right car on the 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.600 right day and time, sure, go ahead leave. After making 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.880 it possible for people to more easily connect with their 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.080 rental cause. Author and his team got feedback from another 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:45.320 important group of stakeholders, Davis Budget employees. What happens when 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.320 you start listening as well to your employees and you 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.600 start thinking about them as customers and then suddenly we 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:56.080 had another turn. We had another set of customer journey 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.280 and pain points, but it was tied to the life 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.240 cycle of the car. How about our folks and our 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.000 colleagues who actually have to rent these cars out, have 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.760 to maintain and manage them, have to repair them, have 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.720 to clean and gas them, have to shuttle them from 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.040 one location to another, and we have to do so 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.520 at eleven thousand locations. Isn't there a better way of 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:19.680 doing that? How about connecting to our employees and to 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:23.240 our fleet. At the heart of Arthur's efforts to better 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.560 serve customers and employees is better connection to the vehicles 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.640 in the fleet. It allows customers to skip lines and 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:33.480 employees to track vehicle life cycles so they can detect 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.680 things like the car that's supposed to be rented on 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:37.720 the same day it needs to have a tire changed. 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.640 If this type of business enabled by connectivity is already happening, 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.200 I was curious what changes the higher bandwidth and lower 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.600 latency promised by future of five G networks could enable 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.480 for Arthur and his team actually have started to talk 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.400 heavily about what five G could bring. V to X 0:09:55.440 --> 0:10:00.960 is what fast communication could afford by V two often 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:05.439 means vehicle to infrastructure communication and that could have far 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.360 reaching implications for how we get around. One of those 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:12.199 natural partners is a city, right, so could we exchange 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:16.120 data with the city that provides us safer smart roots 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.240 in real time? And in exchange for that, could we 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.920 give data back to the city that our sensors collect 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.160 that give them conditions of roads that we traverse on 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.839 a daily basis with lots and lots of cars, so 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.319 that they can understand in real time which roads actually 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:36.400 need to be repaired when. So it's our expertise and 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:41.760 next generation fleet management and connectivity that if cities want 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:46.200 to see fewer and fewer private vehicles right, individually owned 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:50.920 vehicles on the road, that actually matches our ambition. Who's 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.360 owning and managing those fleets? We think it could be 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:59.080 us leveraging connectivity which we learned beginning with zip car, 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:03.640 but expand ending Avis Budget Group into hopefully a potential 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:10.400 leadership position for the next generation of mobility. So Karrot, 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:12.880 what I find really interesting about what Arthur said is 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.640 that let's say we do find ourselves in this fully 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.400 autonomous world where we can call up a self driving 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.120 car whenever we need it and get to where we 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.480 need to go, someone still needs to manage the fleet right. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.000 There needs to be humans in the loop, and a 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.760 pretty intricate system needs to be put in place to 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.880 make sure those vehicles are ready for the road. I've 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.760 walked by many a city bike stand and seeing some 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:39.920 bikes that no longer look like bicycles. That makes me 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.520 think how important it is that bike operating companies have 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.840 good data. Good data understand what's going on with the bikes, 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.520 who's using them, where they need to tune up. And 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.760 data has already become such an important driver of the 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.319 new economy. And that's what kind of what Arthur was saying. 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.360 All of a sudden, the data created by advis budgets 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.719 connective vehicles position them to part with cities on all 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:05.040 kinds of future mobility initiatives. As we know the promise 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.800 of future five gen networks, it's all about collecting more 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:12.440 data and processing it more efficiently to inform better decision making. Yeah, 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.160 and in the case of data generated by self driving cars, 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:18.920 according to tech Crunch, Weymo, which is Google self driving 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.760 car project, has driven ten million miles on real roads 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.560 and ten billion simulated miles. The data from the real 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.719 roads constantly makes the simulation more realistic, and five G 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.000 networks promised to make the data gathered from vehicles much richer. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.920 That's said, it's not clear if and how autonomous vehicles 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.959 will fully roll out. To find out more, I spoke 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:45.640 with Oliver Cameron, the CEO of an autonomous vehicle company 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:54.000 called Voyage. What we're really focused on a Voyage is 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:58.080 delivering on the promise of self driving cause this technology 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:02.520 has this immense, you know, ount of potential, but in 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.040 many cases it's just woods, right, we're all, you know, 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:10.760 dreaming of this future. Oliver's right, Despite all the talk, 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.880 self driving cars still seem like something reserved for the 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.760 far off future. But in the last few years, the 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.800 concept of letting a vehicle drive you around became a 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:24.200 real possibility. But there's so many regulatory and cultural barriers 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.600 to mass adoption. So Voyage is going after a very 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.520 specific use case where the demand is higher and the 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.559 barriers to entry are lower. And what we're really trying 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.719 to do is bring this technology to market sooner and 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.840 in a really impactful way. We want to really focus 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.360 on just one customer and deliver a product for them. 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:49.160 I very much believe that this technology is going to 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:53.360 go through a time where it's real and it's out there, 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:57.320 but people are still using human driven lifts and ubas 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.480 and e bikes and scooters and public transportation and all 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.840 these sorts of things. And what we've really tried to 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.120 do is find a customer who doesn't have those alternatives 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.240 and deliver them that self driving car that can serve 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:15.040 as their primary means of transportation. And we have some 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.640 great early signs that seniors are going to be using 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.240 our product ten times a day versus you know, twice 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:24.160 a week. Like non seniors, seniors are seventeen times more 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.880 likely to suffer a fatality in a car crash than 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.720 a non senior. Seniors today are outliving their ability to 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.200 drive by about seven to ten years, So that means 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:38.480 for a significant chunk of everyone's lives, they are not driving, 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:42.080 and as we all know, driving as synonymous with independence 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:46.040 and freedom. Transportation for people who are of advanced age 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.800 and maybe can't drive on their own is a way 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.520 to have autonomy, and like Oliver said, this can radically 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:56.240 increase quality of life, including the ability to socialize and 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.240 get places on their own terms. But there was another 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:03.000 reason Voyage felt they could target this market. A significant 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:07.720 number of senior citizens live in these retirement communities. And 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.680 you know, as a at the time late twenties Silicon 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.720 Valley type, I I will admit that I, you know, 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.960 it was not too well versed in this part of 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.880 real estate. And what I learned was two things. One 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.760 is that these kind of all in one communities for 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.920 seniors is a huge market. Some of these communities are 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.640 hundreds of thousands of people big that is bigger than 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.880 many towns across the country. And then the second thing 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.120 that we discovered is that many of these places are 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:39.240 master planned. They reduced speed limits, They add more structure 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.920 to the roadways that they build in these communities. That 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:47.120 means less unprotected left turns and more intersections. It means 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.080 that you make the lanes that little bit wider. And 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.560 I couldn't think of a better analogy for the state 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.080 of the art and self driving cars in twenty seventeen. 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.280 So we see senior citizens as our go to market. 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.560 It's our Amazon Books, if you will. Amazon of course 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.720 didn't try and build everything from day one, and we're 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.760 gonna really build momentum in that market and then we'll 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:13.280 continue to expand. Cities present a lot of challenges to 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.360 self driving cars. Anyone who has driven in New York 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.160 City or Los Angeles can tell you that it's unpredictable 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:23.440 and complicated. Choosing these carefully built communities was a safe 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.600 and effective way for Voyage to pilot their self driving cars. 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:31.080 Are self driving technology is really designed for zero to 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.120 twenty five miles an hour today. That does not mean 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.400 that we need to revamp it or rewrite it for 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.520 zero to thirty five, zero to forty five. It just 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:43.440 means we'll need to spend that extra time validating and 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.560 refining a few things to get it ready. But our 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:50.880 technology is capable of handling a ton of complexity, whether 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:56.440 it's roundabouts, unprotected lefts into sections, jay walkers, you know, 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.840 lots of the craziness you see on the roads today. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:02.040 We're really interested right now and getting the recipe correct 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:03.920 We're not going to do this in a rush. This 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.240 is a three ton vehicle that is moving around the 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:11.840 world and is controlled by software that we write, So 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.440 we are very cognizant of that responsibility and that kind 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:20.440 of commitment to safety. With so much buzz around self 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.760 driving cars, unless you've been in one, it's hard to 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:28.480 grasp what's reality, what's ambition, and what's actually possible for 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:33.080 the future. So today our vehicles have test drivers behind 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.920 the wheel to really enable us to stress test this technology. 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:41.280 That's an industry standard at this point in time. Like 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.240 most of the industry, these self driving cars don't drive 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:48.440 like humans. They drive a little robotically and they're very 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.640 very precise, right, which from a safety perspective you can 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:55.280 argue is tremendous, but from a comfort feel, it's a 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:59.200 little disorientating. It has three D sixty degree vision. It 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.439 can see, in our case, up to three meters around it, 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.840 and it has superhuman vision through a bunch of different modalities, 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.959 so you know, it's reacting to things that humans just 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:12.080 don't really perceive. It's almost too precise, and how it 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.280 drives and it needs some of that sort of human 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:19.159 feel and how it overtakes vehicles. It's a testament to 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.400 how far self driving technology has come that the problems 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.760 that Oliver is working on has moved from safety to 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.760 how to get autonomous vehicles to safely mimic a human feel. 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.560 One of the other big challenges is marketing, and I 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:38.200 wondered how you successfully persuade seniors to adopt an unusual technology. 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.040 One of the things that actually surprised me in the 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:45.280 very beginning is that I heard a lot that seniors 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:51.120 may in many cases avoid adopting new technologies. I learned 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.040 from many seniors who kind of schooled me on this 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.280 is that, you know, we younger folks like to think 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.679 of self driving causes this amazing cutting edge innovation and 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.000 oh my god, this is going to transform cities. And 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:06.120 seniors have heard this story many times, because, for example, 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:09.600 our oldest passenger was nine five years old, and this 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:13.520 senior likes to tell me quite frequently that she remembers 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.520 growing up and riding in a horse and cart, that 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.920 that was a thing, you know, And the senior growing 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.960 up has seen the birth of flight, the birth of 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:28.200 the automobile, the birth of mass transit. They've just seen 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:32.640 all of these many different transportation innovations. So you tell them, hey, 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.080 come for a right in a self driving car. And 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:37.879 I had hoped that people would be kind of jumping 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.280 in their seats with excitement, but you know, many of 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.040 these seniors are like, so, what I took a plaim 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:44.920 right in the fifties, And they'll tell you all about 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:49.000 that story. Oliver's ultimate vision is for the computational power 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.480 that autonomous vehicles require to be housed in the car 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:56.159 itself so it can make safe decisions even if network 0:19:56.160 --> 0:20:00.400 connection fails. But he also sees many potentially trans formative 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:04.000 benefits that could come with future five G networks, because 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:08.560 definitely benefits to five G in the logistics, let's say, 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:12.400 of operating self driving vehicles. The more information we can 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.800 send about the vehicle over the network, the more a 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:19.320 human can better aid the vehicle. It's clear to me 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.680 that humans are going to be involved in aiding the 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.440 fleets of self driving cause for quite some time, whether 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:30.840 it's dispatching, rerouting, customer support, humans are going to be 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.679 integral to that. Will it be beneficial to have a 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:37.440 low latency connection to each and every vehicle through five G? 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.879 That's going to be you know, hugely beneficial for those things. 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:45.399 Oliver is talking about five G enabling efficient fleet management, 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:48.920 which would benefit businesses, but he also sees the potential 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:52.439 for real benefits to consumers as autonomous vehicles will be 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:57.200 able to use real time data to plan more efficient journeys. Today, 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.280 when we go out for the day, we begin day 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:05.320 by downloading the freshest maps. If anything changes construction or 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:09.680 what have you, that map is instantly stale. So would 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:13.240 it be beneficial for in the moment construction to be 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:16.879 noted in that map and then pushed within seconds to 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:20.560 every vehicle that's currently operating for sure, being able to 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:24.639 send over any information because latency and network bandwidth is 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:28.560 not a concern. That's amazing. So lots of benefits to 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:32.880 five G for sure that will adopt progressively. We're excited 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:41.919 about those. 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Learn more at t 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:27.800 mobile for Business dot com. So as it was interesting 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:31.040 to hear Oliver talking about a future of autonomous vehicles 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.720 where humans actually remain in the loop, not on decisions 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:37.159 related to the actual car driving, but in terms of 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:41.480 fleet management, logistics, and presumably customer service. Right well, the 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:45.320 reasonability is such a hard problem is because it's so complex. 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:49.800 There's so many interactions between people and cars, people in infrastructure, 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:53.320 cars and infrastructure that will need to happen in real time. 0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:56.879 And so although voyages building towards the future where autonomous 0:22:56.960 --> 0:23:00.040 vehicles can operate without network connection, there are also the 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.240 benefits you can imagine in a world of five G, 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:06.199 things like much improved real time mapping. Imagine all the 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.080 time you'd have on your hands if you don't have 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.720 to drive. You know, right now, if you drive you 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:13.760 can listen to podcast. But five G could actually enable 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:18.040 live streaming video to vehicles at a massive scale. We 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:21.000 focused so far on this episode quite heavily on cars, 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:24.480 but future five G networks promised to transform all kinds 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:28.080 of vehicles and in particular the interaction between different modes 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.639 of transportation. This is something that Marcus Well spends a 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.360 long time thinking about. He's the head of the Siemens 0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:38.240 Intelligent Traffic Systems business in the US, and from his perspective, 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:42.240 connectivity can play an essential role in making transport more 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:45.639 efficient by allowing us to more easily access different modes. 0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:52.280 So what we do specifically from Seems Intelligent Traffic Systems 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:56.800 is that the one and accelerating public transit in cities. 0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:01.400