Speaker 1: You guys, this is Matt. We have two shows coming
Speaker 1: up in November and they are real gags people. On
Speaker 1: November seven, we are part of New York Comedy Festival.
Speaker 1: We're so excited. Bowen and I are pumped to bring
Speaker 1: Coach War and I Don't Think So, Honey death Match
Speaker 1: to the Villain Stage in Brooklyn on November seven. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be two teams, one team at another team
Speaker 1: Bowen Boo and they're gonna be going head to head
Speaker 1: to find out which team can deliver the best. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. This is a head to head
Speaker 1: death match tournament competition, and Boone and I are going
Speaker 1: to be captain and two teams. We have an amazing
Speaker 1: blue ribbon panel. We're going to be really revealing very soon.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be very good. November seven. Coach War, New
Speaker 1: York Comedy Festival. Tickets on Stone now and then it's
Speaker 1: back to basics, bitch. On November eighteenth, we're gonna bringing
Speaker 1: our our third edition. I can't believe it's been three
Speaker 1: times of I Don't Think So Honey live. Fifty comedians
Speaker 1: all killing it on the stage, You and the audience
Speaker 1: getting your laugh on getting your gig, getting someone's phone number.
Speaker 1: I think a show is a really good place to
Speaker 1: meet someone because, like you're having a good time, you
Speaker 1: don't have to talk about shared interest. You can talk
Speaker 1: about the show. It's happening right there. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it might be a good idea. So come
Speaker 1: as a single person, will come with a new date,
Speaker 1: but either way, come to either show or both. We
Speaker 1: have Culture on November seven, then to York Comedy Festival,
Speaker 1: and I don't think so, honey Live Brooklyn Podcast Festival. Lally,
Speaker 1: what are you thinking right now? I'm thinking I didn't
Speaker 1: drink this coffee in the right time frame. What you
Speaker 1: drink too late? Well you'll be up on that. I
Speaker 1: drink too early. And now I'm a little crashy crash room.
Speaker 1: But no, I'm great. I'm like still there, I'm still wired.
Speaker 1: But you know I'm I'm dangling off the cliff, bitch. Okay.
Speaker 1: I had the option to drink a coffee off or
Speaker 1: PM today and I said, you know what, no, because
Speaker 1: I don't want to be up all night because you
Speaker 1: know what that caffeine does to a bit like caffeine
Speaker 1: does wonders. How listen, you want to know something. Kombucha Update.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't, Okay, yes, I do. Kombucha Update.
Speaker 1: Bought some Synergy ginger It's sitting in my fridge because
Speaker 1: I have no desire to drink it. Okay, Well, I'll
Speaker 1: come over tonight and I'll have it. It's just it
Speaker 1: looks disgusting. Um. By the way, you know who sent
Speaker 1: me a picture of them and the gingerid kombucha Who
Speaker 1: Katherine Cohen? Oh, and she said, taking the advice of
Speaker 1: my bitch. So you could say that Kombucha Nation has
Speaker 1: just begune. It's like Bachelor Nation, but healthier, but health Um,
Speaker 1: do we have a good guest today? I think we
Speaker 1: have a respellndent guess maybe like a true I a
Speaker 1: true legend, a gay baron, a gay robber baron. And
Speaker 1: I love actually so much, love him, love him. He's
Speaker 1: some of his stories have changed my life. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: actually I want I want some of them to be told.
Speaker 1: Some of them we told. And he's telling some of
Speaker 1: his stories at his amazing new show at you CB. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that leads perfectly into the credits. Bokay, bit um,
Speaker 1: He's got an amazing show running at UCB Chelsea and
Speaker 1: it's called Yes Honey, and it is directed by the
Speaker 1: legendary UM. You will also want to keep your eyes peeled,
Speaker 1: you guys, for the doc you follow series called Shade
Speaker 1: Queens of New York City. Now, this is a drag
Speaker 1: queen like docuseries, like slash reality show with all New
Speaker 1: York's finest. I'm talking Marty Gold Cummings, the filter, Tina Burner,
Speaker 1: he's live Bejia who just called our guests prior to
Speaker 1: us UM going on the air, and we had to
Speaker 1: kick her off. We had to kick her off because
Speaker 1: we said, no, Michael, he has a heart out. He
Speaker 1: has a heart out. He's gonna hard out at a thirty.
Speaker 1: But he arrived a brisk twenty minutes late. I burn
Speaker 1: I put I put on blasts. Not my fault, Dad,
Speaker 1: Everyone looking, Mike Celtain, explain yourself why the lateness? Okay
Speaker 1: for real, got an invite to this UM recording, which
Speaker 1: is very professional. Kudos. But also the address was eighty
Speaker 1: one President Street, and so I went to the address
Speaker 1: I'm looking at and I'm upset. Were you guys not
Speaker 1: aware it might have been a producers fault? It was?
Speaker 1: It was hot producer jo w HJ. So I went
Speaker 1: there and I'm just standing outside this house and this
Speaker 1: old woman came out and kept looking at me and
Speaker 1: I was like, hey for the podcast bay. She was
Speaker 1: like she just kept like staring at me and didn't
Speaker 1: say a thing. And I was like, I'm for sure
Speaker 1: we're going to be like a spell is gonna be
Speaker 1: put on me the email and I was like, Babe,
Speaker 1: here's where I'm at. And they're like, that's not where
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be. Sorry about it. Uber at the
Speaker 1: old woman's house with a dream and a nice shirt. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm glad it's got cleared up. And honest this is
Speaker 1: like a classic just capsule of a Mikekelton story that
Speaker 1: will like that puts you in that place. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: was there with him, you know what. He's so gifted
Speaker 1: that when he was telling us what had just happened
Speaker 1: to him, I saw it all. I saw the woman
Speaker 1: she was hunched over. Did she have a hunch, a
Speaker 1: huge hunch? Tell us about this dog? Oh my god? Okay.
Speaker 1: So I think in life in jen like like there,
Speaker 1: you get to a point and you're like you're like,
Speaker 1: do I what do I do? Do I get a dog?
Speaker 1: Do I get a baby? Do I get engaged? Do
Speaker 1: I move out of my apartment? Do I moved back
Speaker 1: home to Indiana? Sometimes it's the sequence of those things
Speaker 1: exactly could be one, two three. So I decided. So
Speaker 1: me and Andrew have been together a while, and we've
Speaker 1: been like kind of hinting at the dog thing each other.
Speaker 1: It's kind of scary because you're like, you get a
Speaker 1: dog with a person, you gotta be with that person,
Speaker 1: and or if you break up, it's like someone takes
Speaker 1: the dog. So it's like that you have to have
Speaker 1: that kind of precursor conversation, right, Yes, of course, who
Speaker 1: gets a dog? Yeah, So the way it happened is
Speaker 1: we were talking about dogs for a while and then
Speaker 1: we both got super busy, and then Um started working
Speaker 1: on the show. And then the first week of pre production,
Speaker 1: I was super super tired. We went out to dinner.
Speaker 1: I didn't have any free time. We're at we're sitting
Speaker 1: outside of our favorite restaurant, Building on Bond in Brooklyn. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about building on Bonds. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I have some isshoes, but keep going. Okay, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: into talking about it. Okay, okay, We're at building a bond.
Speaker 1: We're sitting outside and I was like, just like venting
Speaker 1: to Andrew what happened all the time, And He's like,
Speaker 1: what's wrong? And I was like, I'm just so stressed.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that this was going to be this
Speaker 1: must work. And I was like, the only thing that
Speaker 1: could make this better is a dog. And he was like,
Speaker 1: you're an idiot. That's like impossible. But then then what happens.
Speaker 1: My wallet falls out of my back pocket in my
Speaker 1: short it's okay. An hour later, a woman comes by
Speaker 1: walking with the dog, and the dog sniffs my wallet
Speaker 1: and finds my wall because I would have forgot it.
Speaker 1: And I go, oh my god, what a gem of
Speaker 1: a dog. And she goes for adoption, babe, and I
Speaker 1: that very dog, that very dog, Oh my god, And
Speaker 1: I go, no way, babe. So then we like are
Speaker 1: obsessed with his dog. His name was Django, Django wild anyway,
Speaker 1: So we we end up going I know, it's honestly wild.
Speaker 1: So we go back to this woman's apartment, we have
Speaker 1: wine with her. Um we realized like she's a little
Speaker 1: bit unstable, so we like we had to get up.
Speaker 1: But then we just applied online at badass Brooklyn and
Speaker 1: incredible organization. We applied were like four lasses of wine
Speaker 1: in and so we made this amazing application that talked
Speaker 1: all about us and our experiences where we want a dog.
Speaker 1: And then they were back next day, was like Django
Speaker 1: has actually been adopted, but like we've got Curtis, and
Speaker 1: you were like, Curtis is not Django exactly. We thought
Speaker 1: he was ugly, ugly, he was ugly, and so we
Speaker 1: were like, well, we'll just wait around because it's not
Speaker 1: the time and right, and then we went to an
Speaker 1: adoption event and we just like literally fell in love
Speaker 1: with Curtis. And he's so Curtis Curtis better looking in person.
Speaker 1: Oh gorgeous person. Am I right? Can I tell you something?
Speaker 1: So Andrew came into Brooklyn Crab with a friend and
Speaker 1: one Sarah Grace Wellborn was waiting on Andrew and I
Speaker 1: happened to be on the very same floor. So I
Speaker 1: was walking around, you know, doing my thing, and I
Speaker 1: would see out to the corner of my eyes Sarah
Speaker 1: Grace talking to Andrew, her old friend, and she came
Speaker 1: over to me and said, I feel really bad, and
Speaker 1: I said what she said, Well, Andrew had mentioned before
Speaker 1: that he and Mike are thinking about getting a dog,
Speaker 1: and to be honest, me and the girl he's with,
Speaker 1: we're like trying to talk him out of it. And
Speaker 1: she said she thought he saw she thought she saw
Speaker 1: tears well up and he put his sunglasses on. Can
Speaker 1: I tell you something reveal? He was a little bit
Speaker 1: upset because he really wanted the dog, and I think
Speaker 1: they were being good friends. They were honestly being good
Speaker 1: friends because they were like, look, you guys are really busy.
Speaker 1: His dog is a big responsibility, and so they were
Speaker 1: kind of doing like what they should have done. But
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, in love with you think
Speaker 1: about it a lot, you build it up in your hat,
Speaker 1: and you fall in love with the dog. And so
Speaker 1: that got back to you. Okay. I came home and
Speaker 1: he was like, so I talked about the dog, and
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't think they were fully upboard with
Speaker 1: Sarah felt terrible and he came over to me, and
Speaker 1: she is my work wife, my work spouse, and she
Speaker 1: said to me, babe, I feel terrible. I so it
Speaker 1: comes it down. You're at work, coming We left the floor,
Speaker 1: I said, what's going on, babe? I put my hand
Speaker 1: through her hair, right through the air. She said, Wow,
Speaker 1: I just felt really stressed because I feel like I
Speaker 1: just might have hurt Andrew's feelings. And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's fine. I'm sure he's not weeping at
Speaker 1: the table. Before you know it a full scene in
Speaker 1: the restaurant. He cried, carry it out and I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: Oh god. I was like, he didn't tell me that. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: although his sunglasses were on, which for him is just
Speaker 1: like if it's after after six pm, sunglasses are on.
Speaker 1: Are you and Andrew both like, um, sunglassgates? No, definitely
Speaker 1: sunglass gates. And we're like kind of opposites, which is
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, are you both like that sensitive?
Speaker 1: I feel like you're not. You are someone who is
Speaker 1: a feeling person, but only for the things that really
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, matter, Oh, that's that's nice, and would
Speaker 1: you agree with that? Maybe that's maybe that's an unfairsism.
Speaker 1: I am very empathetic. Were like I take on people's
Speaker 1: energy and like I when there's like big issues going
Speaker 1: on in the world, I like take it on and
Speaker 1: I get really upset about it. Um and I am
Speaker 1: pretty sensitive. We're kind of both sensitive, but we just
Speaker 1: deal with it in different ways. So would you have
Speaker 1: reacted responded the same way in that's you if your friends,
Speaker 1: if you're like some of your close friends were like,
Speaker 1: maybe it's not a good idea. I think I would
Speaker 1: have told them in the moment, been like, you guys
Speaker 1: are hurting my feelings. Yes, you would have. And I
Speaker 1: think he I think he kind of did come like
Speaker 1: with a little bit of that, but I think he
Speaker 1: was just like he was really listening to their advice
Speaker 1: because he I mean, because they did not have a point.
Speaker 1: They had a point, and they they said what they
Speaker 1: should have said in that moment, but like that didn't
Speaker 1: stop us, and we got Kurt. Kurt, he's the best.
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing this is this is like
Speaker 1: because I'm so busy, I hate hearing this later, but
Speaker 1: like I can afford to pay for dog. I liked help.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of help. You know. Look, I
Speaker 1: have the means I was someone Today I was reading
Speaker 1: this profile on New York Magazine about Lisa Ling and
Speaker 1: like what her life is like, and she like gets
Speaker 1: real about like childcare. She's like, I'm so grateful, like
Speaker 1: an afford childcare when so many mothers can't. A team,
Speaker 1: and then someone someone in the comments is like, I'm
Speaker 1: it's so refreshing for someone who has money to be
Speaker 1: up front about having access to that. I was like,
Speaker 1: is it refreshing? I mean, like it's great, just like
Speaker 1: appreciate the honest, appreciate the honesty. But it's like, no, great,
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, no, that's just a matter of fact thing,
Speaker 1: like you have it or you don't, and it's great
Speaker 1: if you have it. And it's because if you don't,
Speaker 1: I think logistically, like it would be really tough to
Speaker 1: have a day where like we were both he was
Speaker 1: at school and grad school right now, and I was
Speaker 1: gone all day and I would be like I don't
Speaker 1: want to leave. It's not nice to do. But since
Speaker 1: we can bring him to doggy daycare, it feels like
Speaker 1: a possibility. Great. I also think sometimes it pisces a
Speaker 1: lot of mothers off when they read these stories about
Speaker 1: like Hollywood moms who do it all, and they never
Speaker 1: mentioned the fact that they have helped. It's like, don't
Speaker 1: pretend like you're this superwoman who has this twenty million
Speaker 1: dollar a film career and also is like there for
Speaker 1: everything and meeting all the teachers and knows their names.
Speaker 1: Like that I think would piss me off as a mother.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of nice to hear when people are
Speaker 1: being super honest about the fact that, like, yes, I
Speaker 1: have a team, Please don't think that, like I honestly
Speaker 1: know what they're doing in schools. The same thing where
Speaker 1: like Erica Jane will be like, look, I spent four
Speaker 1: hours on this face, Like I have a full team
Speaker 1: that did my hair and makeup, and that's why I
Speaker 1: look amazing. If you were to see me waking up,
Speaker 1: I would look like ship, which is that honestly, we
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Okay, I see that tell us about Kurt
Speaker 1: what kind of what kind of breed, whatever, everything tell us,
Speaker 1: so no one knows what he is and everyone is
Speaker 1: like everyone has their own opinion. Like when we got him,
Speaker 1: they said Bowl masstif the website, which the thing about
Speaker 1: bowl massifs is they can become like a hundred pounds
Speaker 1: and huge dogs like Kurts like and they said he
Speaker 1: was in between one and two, which also like our
Speaker 1: Vette disagreed with. And that was like, there's no way
Speaker 1: he's even one, and we were like, really, yeah, they
Speaker 1: think it's like puppy. So like we we've kind of
Speaker 1: like if we average everything out based on everyone's ideas
Speaker 1: about how old and what he is. He is a
Speaker 1: bull mastiff pit boxer. He's a bit of who is
Speaker 1: one years old. We'll just call him one one and
Speaker 1: it's a it's a male dog. It's a male dog. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's not a female name. Kurt No, I thought that
Speaker 1: would be fun, that it would be fine, it'd be
Speaker 1: a real nice fuck you two Republicans. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: that all these Republicans out there saying dogs the gender
Speaker 1: gender normal names, they're out there saying that that's true.
Speaker 1: That's honestly a very good point, which brings me to
Speaker 1: talk about gender neutrality. Um, why can I be really
Speaker 1: vulnerable for a moment. I want you to open up.
Speaker 1: Calton found me out of Starbucks in a really in
Speaker 1: a really i'm not gonna say low place, but in
Speaker 1: a really specific place. You are a guardian angel. No no,
Speaker 1: and he didn't. I don't know if he saved me
Speaker 1: because what he did was what I did. What I
Speaker 1: did was one on Craigslist, bought a gaming laptop for
Speaker 1: six remember, and I took it to a Starbucks to
Speaker 1: start downloading some patches for this game. And who should
Speaker 1: walk in but the warm but towering physicality of Mike
Speaker 1: Calton and what's And then he was just like, what's
Speaker 1: that like? Basically was just like asking what I was doing?
Speaker 1: And I had I was just very honest. I was like,
Speaker 1: I just bought this computer with six dollars in cash, um,
Speaker 1: and how I need to start downloading this game so
Speaker 1: that I can it can download while I'm at work.
Speaker 1: And he round the shamed me. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if I've recovered from oh my god, you didn't you
Speaker 1: took a picture? You took you took a picture of
Speaker 1: me on your Instagram story and people people texted me,
Speaker 1: they were like, I just saw you on Mike Calton's
Speaker 1: Instagram storey are you okay? And UM, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I think I owe an apology. Wow, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I will for sure apologize. No, but the
Speaker 1: thing is I will not do this, but I take
Speaker 1: it back. That's fair, that's fair. I thought that was
Speaker 1: going to have a positive twist because I had a
Speaker 1: story about running into Kelton. I have a million of
Speaker 1: those stories. I feel like you just appear sometimes because
Speaker 1: like my golly, I don't see you a lot, but
Speaker 1: I see you when it counts. Bitch. Was right after
Speaker 1: I literally left the audition for the CBS Diversity Show,
Speaker 1: and I had such like a I really didn't want
Speaker 1: to go do that, but I had a film like
Speaker 1: I booked and a long behold we did buck and
Speaker 1: then it didn't end up happening for like crazy, wild reasons.
Speaker 1: But I remember I said to you, I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this, and you were like,
Speaker 1: you have to to do what you want to do
Speaker 1: and create work and not be like being a part
Speaker 1: of like something that you don't want to be a
Speaker 1: part of. And then I I ended up like saying
Speaker 1: I would do it and everything. But in the back
Speaker 1: of my head, I always knew that was true, and
Speaker 1: I knew you were right, and I always I was
Speaker 1: just like, no, Kelton is right, and this is not
Speaker 1: going to happen. And then literally, like cosmically, it didn't
Speaker 1: end up happening because realistically you should not have done it.
Speaker 1: For some reason. It was you compromising, even though it
Speaker 1: felt like a success. I feel like this happens a
Speaker 1: lot to a lot of our friends were like, we
Speaker 1: there's all this pressure on us because of what we're doing,
Speaker 1: and there's no actual road to success. So we like
Speaker 1: to create like an idea, a roadmap of like, well,
Speaker 1: if this happens, like it'll be successful and people will
Speaker 1: be like they're doing it, and then I'll feel better
Speaker 1: about myself. But like and that those showcases are great
Speaker 1: for people. But the way that you expressed it to me,
Speaker 1: you were like, I did this, and the energy around
Speaker 1: it is like I did what I think they wanted
Speaker 1: me to do, and like I know, as like someone
Speaker 1: who's audition for that off, I'm like, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: in and like do some gay stuff, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's a diversity thing. I'm gonna like
Speaker 1: I'll do a woman at a wedding, you know, like
Speaker 1: I'll do I'll do like a gay thing, and then
Speaker 1: I'll do an animal or something like. And and like
Speaker 1: your energy was telling me that it was like authentic,
Speaker 1: inauthentic for you, and you were like, but I did
Speaker 1: a really good job at like what I think they wanted.
Speaker 1: And so I was telling you, like listen to that
Speaker 1: gut and don't fit into other people's mold, because I
Speaker 1: think there's like I think that's what kills people in
Speaker 1: this industry is like fitting into a mold and like
Speaker 1: knocking it out of the park. And then when they
Speaker 1: get the success, they look around and people are looking
Speaker 1: to them of like who are you as an artist,
Speaker 1: and they're like, not what you like? Ship? What are now?
Speaker 1: And you were one of the first people like in
Speaker 1: the well, in the UCB community, or really even in
Speaker 1: the comedy community at large, that I saw that was
Speaker 1: really doing their own thing that I looked up to
Speaker 1: because you were like doing your gay ass thing and
Speaker 1: like it was you and like Josh and Aaron like
Speaker 1: and like BSJ Like I just like looked up to
Speaker 1: you guys because I thought, you know, they're not doing
Speaker 1: it the way everyone else does it, and they're doing
Speaker 1: it in a way that I get and I know
Speaker 1: that other people are going to get and it's meaningful
Speaker 1: and I was and that's huge. Like you, I remember,
Speaker 1: I like I felt like I scored in their performance
Speaker 1: early on, for like, while you were in the audience
Speaker 1: at the pit and you went to leave the audience
Speaker 1: and I ran out to go like talk to you
Speaker 1: because I wanted your validation seriously, like I love you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so nice. I do. I love you.
Speaker 1: I've always looked up to you so much. Every Like
Speaker 1: I remember when I first met you in the Pit
Speaker 1: Love Bar. I was like I went up to and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm actually like a big fan, and
Speaker 1: you were friends with Doug and you were like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, who is this crazy fucking bitch. No, I like,
Speaker 1: it's so funny because I genuinely was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: this guy is fucking adorable and super authentic, and like
Speaker 1: the fact that you said that, and I was a
Speaker 1: big fan of you. I which, well, I was a
Speaker 1: big fan of the both of you because I talk
Speaker 1: to you. Every time I would pitch something, I would
Speaker 1: always include you, and then we were like kind of similar,
Speaker 1: so I would be like, well, if up up Madden,
Speaker 1: it's like I gotta take myself out of here. Like,
Speaker 1: but I when you said that to me, I remember that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, You're so funny and you're both
Speaker 1: like you're both very loud and like this is who
Speaker 1: I am. So when you said to me, I was like,
Speaker 1: you're already doing that, Like I I see that in you,
Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of like the confidence that allows
Speaker 1: you to go up to and be like, hey, I
Speaker 1: love what you do. That allows you to, I think,
Speaker 1: like do what you do, but you're not making sense.
Speaker 1: It really does. It's a it's a setting of it's
Speaker 1: a setting free of yourself, but it's you need to
Speaker 1: see an example of that that that just sort of
Speaker 1: happening by example. And my my, my sort of seared
Speaker 1: Celton memory is a fancy man show. I was like,
Speaker 1: it is an indicage match, and I think you just
Speaker 1: this is all you said, Like your character was like
Speaker 1: screaming really loudly, and like I think something like Henry
Speaker 1: Russell Bergstin was like why are you where are you
Speaker 1: talking so loudly? And then you just said I have
Speaker 1: I have deaf, I have deaf And it was so no,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying no it was I swear it
Speaker 1: was not like able as Journey thing. It was just
Speaker 1: like it was just like an earned funny moment and
Speaker 1: I will never forget it because it was so goddamn
Speaker 1: funny in the moment and like, Okay, there's just Jamie
Speaker 1: Stoles to host this podcast called The Waiting Game, and
Speaker 1: then Mike Helum was one of the first guests, and
Speaker 1: he tells these amazing stories about like what he felt
Speaker 1: like we're his and I don't know if it's I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say this for you, like you felt like
Speaker 1: you had hit rock bottom after you got stuck in
Speaker 1: your boss's elevator. Can you can you tell this story?
Speaker 1: Because I think I think everyone everyone needs to hear
Speaker 1: the story because it is it's it's amazing, it's so stressful,
Speaker 1: and just to hear Mike sort of coming back from
Speaker 1: that moment and like seeing where he is now is
Speaker 1: I think so inspiring. Lost Cultures listeners. I'm excited for you. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: do you do you mind ever putting on this spot? No? No,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to share all all this stuff. Um. I
Speaker 1: always feel like, in general, like a thesis of like
Speaker 1: before I tell this is like the worst things that
Speaker 1: happened to you. I always think are going to end
Speaker 1: up being like your biggest power, like Upaul says, the
Speaker 1: things that make you different or the things that fit
Speaker 1: you fail at are like your superpowers when you realize
Speaker 1: how to like use them. But so this story. I
Speaker 1: I when I was coming up at UCB, I worked
Speaker 1: as an executive assistant at a law firm and Chelsea
Speaker 1: and I got the job like kind of as a
Speaker 1: mistake for this woman, who like I met at a gym,
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I'm looking for an assistant and I
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't have a job and I'm
Speaker 1: taking comedy classes, so like I'll do it. And she
Speaker 1: was like at the time, was super sweet, and we
Speaker 1: like we became friends and it became a relationship where
Speaker 1: like I was working for her, but we were friends.
Speaker 1: So we would go out a lot and then I
Speaker 1: did stuff for the firm. But it was like, I
Speaker 1: think you shouldn't be friends with your employees, like in general.
Speaker 1: Um is something I learned from that. So I had
Speaker 1: apartments at her place for years and watched her dogs,
Speaker 1: her adorable dogs, and was like very fun with it,
Speaker 1: very used to it. And so this is DCM weekend,
Speaker 1: twenty DCM weekend. Also, okay, Pride weekend, can we change that? Great?
Speaker 1: It's not so great. So it was um DCM weekend
Speaker 1: and I was house sitting for my boss and so
Speaker 1: I was at McManus on the Thursday night and I
Speaker 1: mentioned to like someone I think like Josh or Aaron.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, they were like, we should do
Speaker 1: something for gay Pride, and I was like, well, my
Speaker 1: boss's common roof spaces in Chelsea right near the theater.
Speaker 1: We could do like a little drinks thing from like
Speaker 1: five to seven and then people can go to their
Speaker 1: pride stuff or go back to DCM or whatever. It
Speaker 1: was totally reasonable. I mean, I mean, the more I
Speaker 1: go back to this story, the more I'm like, it's insane.
Speaker 1: How this how the universe fucked me because I saved me.
Speaker 1: It's not like you were doing anything like out of
Speaker 1: the question. Okay, keep going, because yeah, I'm like the
Speaker 1: first person to be like inappropriately like like anyway. So
Speaker 1: so I invite people over and like it. It started
Speaker 1: with like five people and ended up being like twelve
Speaker 1: of us, like kind of twelve of us. So UCB
Speaker 1: Gates like the sweetest best people in the world. You
Speaker 1: love them, you do sometimes you cattle them. So like
Speaker 1: it's five pm Sunday afternoon after like crazy DCM weekend, um,
Speaker 1: and I like the way that it happens is like
Speaker 1: the elevator goes up to the top floor so no
Speaker 1: one was going into the apartment right. People were just
Speaker 1: coming up to the roof and it ended up like
Speaker 1: Brandon Scott Challenge. But was like, hey, can I bring
Speaker 1: someone else? I was like, of course, I know all
Speaker 1: these people. So we're up there. We're literally drinking champagne
Speaker 1: and like having like one or two beers and like
Speaker 1: sharing stories. It's like it's like the thing you can
Speaker 1: think of, um. And so after two hours, it's like
Speaker 1: seven o'clock, I'm like, all right, that's it. Like we
Speaker 1: all clean up with like and I'm like being fastidious
Speaker 1: about them, like, let's clean up. I want to make
Speaker 1: sure that no one like leaves anything up here. We
Speaker 1: put all of the bottles into these plastic bags. We
Speaker 1: have these jingling bags, and we get in the elevator
Speaker 1: and like it's like seven of them are in, and
Speaker 1: then there's like eight of them in and I was
Speaker 1: like and someone I don't know who it was, but
Speaker 1: like maybe Brian Fonts, I don't know. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, let's just all, let's just all get
Speaker 1: in the elevator and I'm like and people have had
Speaker 1: a couple of drinks and I'm like yeah, I was
Speaker 1: like let's all squeeze in this elevator. We're sweaty, we're
Speaker 1: in tank tops. Some of us have fucked each other,
Speaker 1: like anyway, So we get in the elevator, doors close.
Speaker 1: It literally goes down like six inches and stops like
Speaker 1: six inches because because it's to have and here's the deal.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, oh, like uh, reset, like you're
Speaker 1: pressing like the reset button or whatever, and it just
Speaker 1: moving a tiny bit like and then just stopping and
Speaker 1: and it's really you couldn't move in this elevator like
Speaker 1: it was like sucking. Like it was like it was
Speaker 1: like the duplex like in this elevator. Literally there was
Speaker 1: a piano. It literally wanted to be so so like
Speaker 1: people are everyone's this is hysterical to everybody. Got me
Speaker 1: to accept me because I'm like, oh, this is my job,
Speaker 1: like and I did not tell my boss was having
Speaker 1: these people over because in my mind, I was like,
Speaker 1: it's a common roof space. It's like five to seven,
Speaker 1: No one's it's there, they'll be gone whatever. And because
Speaker 1: it was Sunday, the elevator company wasn't working, so I
Speaker 1: called the number and they were like some woman was
Speaker 1: literally in the office being like f y, I were closed,
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? Then just like you need
Speaker 1: to call the fire department, so called the fire department. Um,
Speaker 1: not one, not too but three fire trucks came to
Speaker 1: this apartment building. We were in there for an hour
Speaker 1: and the fireman came, go ahead, one elevator in the
Speaker 1: whole building. One elevator whole building. And it's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's one of those buildings where the elevator opens up
Speaker 1: to one apartment or the other side apartment. So people
Speaker 1: that lived in this building was a small like maybe
Speaker 1: like twelve units in the building, but like very very nice.
Speaker 1: It is a very nice building. And so everyone was
Speaker 1: like we can't like get up to bring our groceries.
Speaker 1: If there was a pregnant woman, she couldn't get up
Speaker 1: to go home. So an hour goes by and people
Speaker 1: are cracking jokes and I'm literally like sweating. I'm like,
Speaker 1: my job, my job, my job, my jomba job, a job.
Speaker 1: And at the time I couldn't I couldn't pay my
Speaker 1: rent if I didn't make money from this job. It
Speaker 1: was like why I didn't leave this job? And so
Speaker 1: then it's happening around to that literally literally yep, yep,
Speaker 1: and they were good bits like if I wasn't if
Speaker 1: I wasn't having anxiety attack, I would have been like
Speaker 1: I love love love. So so then the fire department
Speaker 1: comes up and they couldn't get the door open, so
Speaker 1: they had to break the elevator door by like like
Speaker 1: jamming it open, and they broke into a neighbor's apartment.
Speaker 1: They broke down the fire door there like the full
Speaker 1: on fired or like broke it down because I thought
Speaker 1: it was an emergency. I mean it was. And so
Speaker 1: then they let us out and all of us walk
Speaker 1: down the fire exit of this building with every tenant
Speaker 1: in the building screaming at us, who the fuck are
Speaker 1: you guys? What apartment are you from? What the funk
Speaker 1: is going on? And like and who was it? Um
Speaker 1: Bryan Williams walking down like god in someone's face and
Speaker 1: like honestly like god bless because they were being aggressive
Speaker 1: to us. But I was like, please think of me.
Speaker 1: Think of like the fact that like there's a person
Speaker 1: who I'm working for and like got in someone's face,
Speaker 1: and someone got in his face and I think he
Speaker 1: was like, you know, fuck you, or like there was
Speaker 1: some type of like push or something, and we got
Speaker 1: out to the street and I will never forget this.
Speaker 1: Like some I'm gonna throw a little bit shade. Some
Speaker 1: people were like steal in Kiki world and they were
Speaker 1: like we're out, like let's go to the bar. And
Speaker 1: I was like having a panic attack, and like Brian
Speaker 1: Foss was that just sweetie? Like there were a couple
Speaker 1: of people that really checked in were like are you okay?
Speaker 1: But Boss, like what can I do for you right now?
Speaker 1: And I was like I just need to like walk
Speaker 1: around the block and get some air. So I daddy,
Speaker 1: So I called my boss. I literally like this is
Speaker 1: the person I am. I called her right away and
Speaker 1: I was like crying. I was like, here's the deal,
Speaker 1: was like, this is what happened. She's like, are the
Speaker 1: dogs okay? And I was like the dogs are fine.
Speaker 1: I was like I put them in doggy daycare because
Speaker 1: I didn't want them not paying because I knew I
Speaker 1: was gonna be out on that at TCM, like I
Speaker 1: was like being super proactive even though she hired me
Speaker 1: to want to talk to the weekend but I'm talking.
Speaker 1: But I was like super proactive about everything, and so
Speaker 1: she was like it's totally fine, like my neighbors are crazy,
Speaker 1: and then cut to like three days later, I go
Speaker 1: into her office and she fired me, And I think,
Speaker 1: like the co op board really put the pressure on
Speaker 1: of like this guy out of rager and liked and
Speaker 1: so like they put pressure on her and she felt
Speaker 1: that stress. So I got fired and it was like
Speaker 1: I literally was like, I don't know how I'm going
Speaker 1: to pay my rent. I have a wedding to go
Speaker 1: to this weekend. I'm twenty six. I can't even afford
Speaker 1: to get to this wedding or give a wedding gift.
Speaker 1: Like it was. It was so bad, But like the
Speaker 1: moral of the story is I had for a good year.
Speaker 1: I had written drafting, like three draft emails to my
Speaker 1: boss quitting being like you're amazing, thank you for this
Speaker 1: opportunity and this paycheck, but I need to leave and
Speaker 1: like be a creative person, I can't be working in
Speaker 1: a law firm. And I never hit sent send, And
Speaker 1: I you know what, when you're sad, like and you
Speaker 1: buy a computer for the video games, like you like
Speaker 1: can't you can't get past it. You can't be proactive
Speaker 1: about like making that hard decision. I couldn't do it,
Speaker 1: and so like, thank god the elevator broke because it
Speaker 1: forced me to like be on unemployment and be super
Speaker 1: poor for a year and a half and like work
Speaker 1: on what I should be working on, which is like
Speaker 1: being a fucking nutcase now. But how long did it
Speaker 1: take you to get to a place of even like
Speaker 1: being happy again after that happened? Was that, like were
Speaker 1: you like in the depths for like a couple a
Speaker 1: little while. What's so weird about it is when I
Speaker 1: was fired, I like was overcome with like sadness and
Speaker 1: I was packing up the stuff like I was fired.
Speaker 1: I had to leave like this person who had known
Speaker 1: for three years my desk, and I'm like packing up
Speaker 1: my stuff and walking out of the store. And as
Speaker 1: soon as I got to the street with all of
Speaker 1: my stuff, I felt amazing. Really literally was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is it. This is my fucking ticket.
Speaker 1: Like think it's just when ship happens, that's really bad.
Speaker 1: I think the moment after you realized like that had
Speaker 1: to happen, there's some kind of relief. And then I
Speaker 1: went to like I'm lucky that my dad works New York.
Speaker 1: So I went to my dad's office and I cried
Speaker 1: to my dad and I was like, you're a fucking idiot.
Speaker 1: Like here, we're gonna get you a phone. So I
Speaker 1: he had to get me a phone because my phone
Speaker 1: was on the firm's It was like it was bad.
Speaker 1: Did your friendship with her survive or was that also over? Um?
Speaker 1: We didn't talk for like a good two years. And
Speaker 1: then because we were friends and like we we were
Speaker 1: friends and she I forget who was one of us,
Speaker 1: emailed each other and was like, hey, let's let's connect
Speaker 1: and then we got drinks and we like we hashed
Speaker 1: it out. We had like that conversation. I was like,
Speaker 1: I apologize, like what happened sucked, and she's like, I apologize,
Speaker 1: and I'm actually going to next week the firm's fifteen
Speaker 1: year anniversary, which is like cool and and that's like, um,
Speaker 1: and I mean, I don't know, this sounds sort of petty,
Speaker 1: but it's like you get to just show everybody like
Speaker 1: where you are now, and it's it's this much by
Speaker 1: a beautiful gown. Let me just arrive like like posing
Speaker 1: as if there's a red carpet, like like they're up
Speaker 1: on the on the line of paparazzi and like just
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I'm doing it like my post
Speaker 1: right now that I would do if I were like
Speaker 1: it's good. It's like it's like it's Chloe. It's like
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think I'm channeling right now. I think
Speaker 1: like prime, her prime even Longori, oh yeah, her six
Speaker 1: month prime. It was many years sid Um waiting on
Speaker 1: for the story. Can you I almost want you to
Speaker 1: name name is that you can just say now who
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, who who is like still in key
Speaker 1: che mode after all of us? Can you tell us?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like it's been long enough where you
Speaker 1: can just say it and it's like, no harm. Do
Speaker 1: you remember just like bye, they were like by I
Speaker 1: mean like they're such funny people. They were just like
Speaker 1: they were like you'll realize one day how funny this is.
Speaker 1: Like that's I never know what you want to hear
Speaker 1: the moment at all. No, not at all, but like
Speaker 1: that makes total sense and like that not I've never
Speaker 1: seen either of them be upset over anything. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: don't get upset, they don't get up. I feel like
Speaker 1: sometimes with Um, with Josh, I feel like we've been
Speaker 1: hanging out and I said something sincere, and I think
Speaker 1: he looked at me and burned a hole in my soul.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, yeah, really, and he's
Speaker 1: like Okay. I was like, Josh, and he's just one
Speaker 1: of those people that like, I think he's I always
Speaker 1: think that Josh and Aaron are like quicker than me.
Speaker 1: We like sometimes I'm trying to catch up with the
Speaker 1: jokes a little intimidating at first because they're so fucking funny,
Speaker 1: icons so funny. Wait, okay, we're gonna ask you what
Speaker 1: we ask all of our guests on the show, which
Speaker 1: is what is the culture that made you say? Culture
Speaker 1: is for me? Yeah, this is the culture as you
Speaker 1: were growing up, Like, I don't know what happens at
Speaker 1: different agess for different people. You know, ten twelve, fourteen, movies, films,
Speaker 1: television are situational thing the culture that really caused you,
Speaker 1: Michael Kelton, to step into the world of culture. Great, Um,
Speaker 1: I think I understand the question and perfectly. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: part of the show that we make the question in
Speaker 1: a little fucked up okay, because it has to sound
Speaker 1: a little different each time. Okay, okay, I will jack
Speaker 1: a little pill. Oh my god Jack A little pill
Speaker 1: is like very much. I feel like what to find
Speaker 1: me as a little gay boy, because I was like
Speaker 1: I was angry, but then I was like blissfully unaware,
Speaker 1: and then I was just like jamming, Oh, when to
Speaker 1: your house, act in your room, open the door without
Speaker 1: ringing a bell. It's really good. It's not that good.
Speaker 1: But that song is like the hidden track, and people
Speaker 1: don't I think, no, it as well as they should, yes,
Speaker 1: because I feel like they turned the album off when
Speaker 1: the last song ends. But you have to keep listening track.
Speaker 1: But this is interesting because I feel like you weren't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call you an rule number. You have to
Speaker 1: listening to the hidden track. I feel like you're not
Speaker 1: an angry person now it. I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think Atlantis. I mean, wow, this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: hot take. I don't think Atlantis was an angry person.
Speaker 1: I think she was a smart person. Like someone who's
Speaker 1: angry gets broken up with and they like they burned
Speaker 1: the house down, or they like go after the person
Speaker 1: or smash the windows out their car. But a smart
Speaker 1: person writes a song that becomes a number one hit
Speaker 1: that makes that person feel like the biggest douchebag the
Speaker 1: rest of their life. Oh and you think that's what
Speaker 1: happened to Atlantis. You don't think she ever acted on
Speaker 1: those feelings. You think she just wrote them out. You
Speaker 1: think had she actually been confronted, she would just be like, UM, okay,
Speaker 1: I actually need to like step away from the situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Or she'd be like, oh, I don't care, like like
Speaker 1: I feel like with with like uh storytelling, that's what.
Speaker 1: Like I have trouble in the moment when stuff really
Speaker 1: upsets me, Like I can be like I have trouble
Speaker 1: sticking up for myself because I like to make other
Speaker 1: people feel comfortable. But like like the situation where where
Speaker 1: I got fired, Like I when she fired me, I sat,
Speaker 1: I stood in her office and I just cried and
Speaker 1: I kept saying I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry because
Speaker 1: I I couldn't stick up for myself and I couldn't
Speaker 1: be like what you're not realizing is this this? And this?
Speaker 1: So as an artist, like I just was like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna like I am witnessing this and I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: it and I'm going to tell people these the story
Speaker 1: that will like hopefully help other people or make them
Speaker 1: laugh or whatever. Um And that's how like it's like
Speaker 1: the weird way that I experienced life too. Like I
Speaker 1: always know that in a relationship, if I start storytelling
Speaker 1: about that relationship, it's kind of a bad thing because
Speaker 1: it means I'm not dealing with the issues with that person. Um.
Speaker 1: So in that way, that's like a like a long
Speaker 1: winded way to say that. With Atlantis, I like, I
Speaker 1: was like, I get you. Girls. That's so interesting that
Speaker 1: your response to conflict us to like retreat and apologize,
Speaker 1: because mine is fully to be very differentive and argumentative.
Speaker 1: I've noticed that about myself, I mean different strokes. It's
Speaker 1: it can be helpful to be that way. Like I
Speaker 1: think sometimes I really wish I could just be like
Speaker 1: shut the funk up right now and listen to the
Speaker 1: real situation. But I just like accept things. I'm one
Speaker 1: of those kids that always was like I was never
Speaker 1: in trouble, and if people were like you did this,
Speaker 1: I was like, you're right, and you know what, I
Speaker 1: apologize Like I was like, even if I didn't do it,
Speaker 1: I always took responsibility for things. Yeah, So Atlantis, that
Speaker 1: was ninety six, So this was like I guess early teens,
Speaker 1: like no, n I was nine oh nine, Oh, so
Speaker 1: you were kind of you were feeling feelings that really
Speaker 1: you had no right to feel a bit. It was
Speaker 1: from a past life. I was really feeling. I thought
Speaker 1: you would have been like and you know there, I
Speaker 1: can feel you know, you feel like brnon downahous, or
Speaker 1: at least you think you do. But at age nine,
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I was. I was
Speaker 1: kind of a quiet I was, believe it or not.
Speaker 1: I was like a quiet, very weird kid where I
Speaker 1: could play by myself and I just was like I
Speaker 1: was on the swim team, so I would be at
Speaker 1: the pool and I love to run around of my
Speaker 1: speedo and like play imagination with myself. Like I was
Speaker 1: a very very weird but like confident kid where people
Speaker 1: were like, you're weird. I was like, I'm actually having
Speaker 1: a glass. That's great. Oh that's great. And then the
Speaker 1: other thing I would say culturally is um um sorry,
Speaker 1: I can't think of the name. It's not Mean Girls.
Speaker 1: It's clueless to me when like I think Mean Girls
Speaker 1: is an incredible movie. But I feel like the generation
Speaker 1: gap is is do you relate to clueless or do
Speaker 1: you relate to Mean Girls, and I, you know what's
Speaker 1: funny is like I Cluels came out when I was
Speaker 1: like five, and then Mean Girls came out when I
Speaker 1: was fourteen, So I guess looking at them both now,
Speaker 1: it's weird because I didn't get clueless at the time
Speaker 1: when I came out, because who's five and gets clue? Literally,
Speaker 1: like most like teenagers don't get clueless. It's like so smart.
Speaker 1: But there was something about that movie that and that
Speaker 1: now looking back, I feel more than Mean Girls because
Speaker 1: Mean Girls is more of like a Tina Face style,
Speaker 1: like making jokes about these things, like it's very rational. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it but whereas Clueless it felt different. It was
Speaker 1: like jokes about it was about high schools, but about
Speaker 1: the world, you know, the world of the movie. That's
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's just like they're wearing these fucking
Speaker 1: crazy hats like this, you know, like it's normal to
Speaker 1: like I don't, it's just normal to look like the
Speaker 1: way they look like in high school. And yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: it because it was an Austin adaptation. Honestly, it was
Speaker 1: like based on a classical like work in a way,
Speaker 1: like it had that kind of timeless quality to it,
Speaker 1: whereas Mean Girls feels like its own self contained story
Speaker 1: that only could have been written at that time, whereas
Speaker 1: like Clueless has this like kind of timeless story of
Speaker 1: like you know, it feels a clue. This was like
Speaker 1: a stamp of a generation, whereas Mean Girls is like
Speaker 1: a really good comedy movie. Yeah, I think that's it,
Speaker 1: and like great one liners like me, I mean you
Speaker 1: Girls is like a standalone great film, but like people
Speaker 1: quoted because it's just like joke. It's like Tina fe
Speaker 1: It's and I do think it's interesting too. If you compare,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get all weird right now. If you compare like, um,
Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan's character to um no, Britney Murphy, because those
Speaker 1: were both the new understart that became the Queen Bee.
Speaker 1: There was a difference in the way that Britney Murphy's
Speaker 1: character became the Queen Bee. It wasn't like it was
Speaker 1: to me. It wasn't purely about manipulation. It was like
Speaker 1: about people bringing her up and then when she got there,
Speaker 1: she was like, this isn't really me, whereas like, um,
Speaker 1: this is really hard to explain it. It feels like
Speaker 1: an Excel chart in my head but like which I hate, um,
Speaker 1: but it feels like it feels Lindsay Lohan's character was
Speaker 1: like doing it as a game. She was like, She's like,
Speaker 1: in order to beat these people, I'm gonna play this game,
Speaker 1: where Brittany Murphy was blissfully being like sure, like yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll do this. Yeah, this is how you act here, yes,
Speaker 1: where it was like her being introduced to the nineties
Speaker 1: as opposed to like, um, you know, Lindsay Lohan like
Speaker 1: playing the game and trying to like undercut the bitch,
Speaker 1: you know at the end of the day. I think
Speaker 1: they often get grouped together, but two totally different, totally
Speaker 1: totally like it's like and it's almost like unfair to
Speaker 1: both to like have them compete. But I think people
Speaker 1: do it with mean girls and with Heathers, I with Clueless,
Speaker 1: where they're kind of defining like girl driven team comedies
Speaker 1: and they exist there. And I don't know, I guess
Speaker 1: it's about time one of the like there's a new
Speaker 1: one because it really isn't that's crazy. I mean girls
Speaker 1: years ago, Um, what was that movie with what's her face? A? Not? No,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't count easy. I wouldn't either neither. It doesn't
Speaker 1: seem as impact that that girl it's Hayley Steinfeld was
Speaker 1: in that movie of seventeen. I hear it's like people
Speaker 1: were saying at the time, like critics were saying at
Speaker 1: the time, that it's like of that sort of caliber,
Speaker 1: like I feel like I gotta watch it. So I mean,
Speaker 1: what am I saying? I'm just bringing it up as
Speaker 1: like a reference, like that's maybe the closest thing we
Speaker 1: have to that, which is sad, But it's interesting that
Speaker 1: it's probably time, you know what I mean, because really
Speaker 1: the fact that we're talking about it means it's in
Speaker 1: the ether and it's we're ready, or it means that
Speaker 1: we should have a gaily. Oh how do you do that?
Speaker 1: I was you put your tongue on the roof of
Speaker 1: your mouth. You it's really more of a click than
Speaker 1: it is a pop. Okay, I'm gonna truck. Well that's
Speaker 1: bo that's bow and now Matt, I am known me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: see you're doing a tongue click. You're like you're you're
Speaker 1: you're like raising your tongue up and then like, so
Speaker 1: what it's really more driven by one side of your mouth.
Speaker 1: So oh, so go on, try try doing like a
Speaker 1: like a like a she looks really, she looks really,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I'm not good at that. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a great segway. This is a great segue
Speaker 1: into shade Queens of New York City, Queens of New
Speaker 1: York City, Queens of NY City. So this is a
Speaker 1: guess can we expect like a Real Housewives style show.
Speaker 1: It's still in development, like you're still working through it.
Speaker 1: We have a locked one oh one, we have a
Speaker 1: fine cut of two of one oh two. So like
Speaker 1: the pilot is the one is done, um and we are.
Speaker 1: It's funny when you like, when you make up pilot,
Speaker 1: you like figure out the style of stuff, but when
Speaker 1: you know you have to start working on episode two
Speaker 1: and three, you're like, this is what it is? Like
Speaker 1: this you're figuring out as you go. And so it's
Speaker 1: really interesting because the characters these queens are fucking incredible.
Speaker 1: They're like there's such dynamic human beings that like I
Speaker 1: keep learning more about them, and I'm like, I want
Speaker 1: to show the world that, Like, I think the idea
Speaker 1: for the show was I was talking to Marty gold
Speaker 1: Cummings like over a year ago, and he met with
Speaker 1: me to pitch a documentary of him moving home to
Speaker 1: Maryland and running from mayor, and I was like, bitch,
Speaker 1: what it's like, did that really happen? He wanted to
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's really interesting, but I was like,
Speaker 1: tell me why you want to do that. And then
Speaker 1: he started talking about how he's like he started doing
Speaker 1: all these fundraising shows and getting super politically active, and
Speaker 1: how all these queens were like doing shows to raise
Speaker 1: money for a queen who was beaten on the subway,
Speaker 1: and like all of these things that really to me
Speaker 1: subverted the expectations of like what like top of rain,
Speaker 1: what you think of when you think of drag, which
Speaker 1: is like like fierce people, funny people, RuPaul's drag, race
Speaker 1: Um living for them like but not like this kind
Speaker 1: of like all of the heart behind it, which has
Speaker 1: always been there, like since the beginning of gay culture.
Speaker 1: Drag queens were the people that were like uplifting the community.
Speaker 1: But I just think you don't people don't see that,
Speaker 1: at least in media to me. So I was like,
Speaker 1: what's the story behind that? And so then I met
Speaker 1: with all of these queens and interviewed them about the
Speaker 1: community in New York about what they do in their
Speaker 1: day to day lives, and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: Like that's a show. You guys are a show. And
Speaker 1: so then like pitching this show, people are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: drag queens, but like we hear a lot about drag queens,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this show isn't just drag queens.
Speaker 1: It's like the human beings behind them. You don't hear
Speaker 1: a lot about drag queens either, because you're being right
Speaker 1: now with drag Race, which I would consider like maybe
Speaker 1: is the only media outlet that exists right now. You're
Speaker 1: fedest specific fun competitive and that that changes everything, of course,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's like, oh, why have a favorite
Speaker 1: end it's this person? But with this it's like no,
Speaker 1: it's not about like who's better, It's just about their
Speaker 1: human stories exactly, what like what makes them tick? What,
Speaker 1: what do they believe? What is their style of drag?
Speaker 1: Like why does why does Brittain filter do drag as
Speaker 1: opposed is to like, uh, Tina Bernard, is it different
Speaker 1: or is it the same thing? I know. It's like
Speaker 1: as gay men and performers, like we all are, it's
Speaker 1: like there's a reason why we like to make people laugh,
Speaker 1: and it's I think it's a part of growing up
Speaker 1: and having to make other people laugh at the point
Speaker 1: of shame that we feel like we're wrong to begin with.
Speaker 1: So there's something really magical and special about us. And
Speaker 1: I think more so with drag performers, because not only
Speaker 1: do they like I want to perform, but they're like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dress as a woman. I'm gonna be a
Speaker 1: gag myself, right, I'm going to be a clown, make
Speaker 1: people laugh, make people feel good, and communicate something that
Speaker 1: ultimately makes other takes away other people's pain. And most
Speaker 1: of those people are gay men in gay bars, and
Speaker 1: I just think that's so universal for where we are
Speaker 1: right now as a society of like we're so divided
Speaker 1: and everything is pretty fucked up that like, if you
Speaker 1: can empathize with these drag performers, Like my goal with
Speaker 1: whatever I make is always like to show it to
Speaker 1: my dad and have him be like, that's really cool.
Speaker 1: My dad was like a he's a lawyer who's grew
Speaker 1: up Republican, and like, if he can be like these
Speaker 1: fucking drag queens rock, I like, I love that. So
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting and also scary because you're making a
Speaker 1: drag show with a community online that are like waiting
Speaker 1: for like another drag race type thing and it's just
Speaker 1: not going to be that, which is which is sort
Speaker 1: of how it should be. Yeah, I'm just nervous that
Speaker 1: people are gonna be like, like, where's the like, where's
Speaker 1: the like fierceness, where's the reading? Yeah, yeah, where's them
Speaker 1: being like oh no, bitch. Like there are moments of
Speaker 1: that because they drag queens performed, but like it's mostly
Speaker 1: like there's like really beautiful moments where like Britta facetimes
Speaker 1: with her mom with her mom and talks about like
Speaker 1: struggling with her health issues and like how she her
Speaker 1: mom at the end of this call goes goes, you
Speaker 1: got this baby, You're my favorite drag queen, And I'm like, ah,
Speaker 1: that's so special, Like people need to see that. That's
Speaker 1: like some kid growing up in Iowa, some fifteen year
Speaker 1: old k that's like I want to do drag but
Speaker 1: like it's too scared too, because he's like, my mom
Speaker 1: will disown me if you can watch the show with
Speaker 1: his mom. Have to see the mom be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that mom is supportive and that mom is fucking Mormon, Like,
Speaker 1: how cool. So brought her mom to a show once
Speaker 1: and she was so sweet, so sweet, so so sweet.
Speaker 1: We love him. I've been to like calls it like
Speaker 1: for like this scenes where she's not a calm like
Speaker 1: we just want you to talk to Jesse and like
Speaker 1: just like be your beautiful self. She's like that's it,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's it. So fun. I mean, and
Speaker 1: that is and just people being like, where's the where
Speaker 1: the tongue pops? Whereas the reading like that is just
Speaker 1: a prescriptive. People don't understand that it's an edited, yeah,
Speaker 1: within an inch of its life thing. Even RuPaul admits it.
Speaker 1: They produced the funk out of that. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: that's like a direct quote. So it's like, especially with
Speaker 1: a competitive show, like it's extremely well done and I
Speaker 1: think it's great that it exists because it opened people's
Speaker 1: eyes up to it. I mean, I showed my dad
Speaker 1: an episode one episode of drag Ras and it happened
Speaker 1: to be the reunion of this year where they were
Speaker 1: where they were like and it was like I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, this isn't a normal episode at three, and
Speaker 1: he's like, I want to watch it and his takeaway,
Speaker 1: and he keeps saying this. Every time my sister and
Speaker 1: I talked about it was, you know, I was struck
Speaker 1: by how honest they are with each other. They all
Speaker 1: seem very open to critique, and they're just able to
Speaker 1: really talk about each other very honestly. And I've never
Speaker 1: seen anything like that, because I think that's different frustrate people.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think honesty, especially in like suburban areas,
Speaker 1: like you don't talk to each other to your faces
Speaker 1: about what's real. Like you wouldn't welcome to someone in
Speaker 1: the grocery store and be like, hey, your daughter is
Speaker 1: being shitty to my daughter, and or maybe they would,
Speaker 1: but but no, but but mothers and subreb we are
Speaker 1: drag queens and they need to know that. But like,
Speaker 1: especially with men, you know what I mean, Like you
Speaker 1: don't you don't get real with each other in that
Speaker 1: way and anybody, how's it? How's it going? Pretty good? Bro? Amazing?
Speaker 1: It's certainly not the name you're welcoming, but that's really
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not far off from it. They don't,
Speaker 1: they don't speak like that. So I think it's interesting
Speaker 1: to hear that. His poll was, that's interesting, how they're
Speaker 1: so honest with each other and how they you know,
Speaker 1: read each other to filth and that's okay, but meanwhile,
Speaker 1: honesty is also this like human thing and that's just
Speaker 1: your dad responding to, oh, these are human beings. And
Speaker 1: I think that, I mean, hopefully, I think that's probably
Speaker 1: what Shade Queens of NYC is going to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's my hope for it. And there's
Speaker 1: it's really cool because you'll see in the first episode
Speaker 1: it's very much about it's called It Takes a Village Girl.
Speaker 1: Um initially was bitch and the network was like, no,
Speaker 1: it takes a Village Girl. And it's about like kind
Speaker 1: of Marty's activism. Literally started this club in Hell's Kitchen
Speaker 1: called Hell's Kitchen Democrats, and it's started like three members
Speaker 1: in a living room and now there's like hundreds of members.
Speaker 1: Friend Carlson that I think, oh yeah, and they meet
Speaker 1: every week. And Marty, which is like a real I
Speaker 1: think people are going to see the show and be like,
Speaker 1: you created these things, and I'm like, no, this is real.
Speaker 1: Marty has his therapy show right after Hell's Kitchen Democrats,
Speaker 1: so he goes in face to the meeting and like
Speaker 1: you know, boy and face on and he like leads
Speaker 1: this meeting. He's like, hi, everyone, here's our new initiative.
Speaker 1: We're like we want to like, um, get out the
Speaker 1: word and have people like uh greate safe spaces for people.
Speaker 1: And he gives this whole speech. He's in face and
Speaker 1: he's like, I know, in face, but like I'm a
Speaker 1: drag queen, so like it over it and it's like
Speaker 1: it's just and then he puts up these posters and
Speaker 1: it's like it's really beautiful because you're like, this is
Speaker 1: just a human being. Like his drag has really nothing
Speaker 1: like I think maybe a byproduct of the show is
Speaker 1: some parts like the drag has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: It's just like these are really awesome people, which is
Speaker 1: so cool. Um wait, we have a funny Marty gold
Speaker 1: Coving love. When Matt and I went to go see
Speaker 1: um sense of Boulevard, Marty Cummings went to and was
Speaker 1: like was like in full drag, and I think I
Speaker 1: forgot what she said, but she like she like greed it.
Speaker 1: She said she's had hello and she goes, I can't
Speaker 1: wait for this fucking drag showed it because it's Glenn
Speaker 1: Close being really serving and Marty Gold was there and
Speaker 1: it was it was very fun to see her and
Speaker 1: like Fishy drags great. Yeah, like d like a fucking
Speaker 1: curly ponytail, which is that you never I never see
Speaker 1: Marty like that because Marty actually didn't start This is
Speaker 1: part of an episode two Marty's I'm like giving way everything.
Speaker 1: But Marty didn't start wearing wigs until Drag Race because
Speaker 1: drag Race auditions are this crazy thing. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: going to ask, is that a topic with the girls
Speaker 1: on the show. We are steering clear of it because
Speaker 1: we don't want to. We don't want to funk with
Speaker 1: World of Wonder, Like I know they have this like
Speaker 1: monopoly of like drag television shows. It's intense and I
Speaker 1: don't want to like sunk with them, Like here's our show,
Speaker 1: this is our aim, and I don't want to like
Speaker 1: there to be any reason of that. But um, that
Speaker 1: being said, Marty didn't. Marty didn't start wearing wigs until
Speaker 1: like his third time auditioning for drag Race because he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, everyone in drag Race has a wig.
Speaker 1: It's like a big part of the show, Like, don't
Speaker 1: take off your wig. You know, like this is a
Speaker 1: part of drag. You have to yeah, of course, but
Speaker 1: like Marty, Marty, like it wasn't a part of his
Speaker 1: dragon now is a part of his drag. And so
Speaker 1: I found that to be interesting because it's like, what
Speaker 1: and now he does wear wigs and you're like this,
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem Marty too to you. And to be honest,
Speaker 1: as Marty's friend, I think Marty looks best when he's
Speaker 1: in boy hair and face. To be honest, it's an
Speaker 1: iconic look for You're like, you're like, oh, that's a
Speaker 1: Marty coming exactly. I like that, Like I'm like, it
Speaker 1: looks he looks like LaRue to me, Chechi Laru, you know,
Speaker 1: like bulletproof. Yeah yeah, oh my god, yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great. It's so interesting when you talk to a
Speaker 1: drag queen and you ask them that you bring it up, like, um,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't name any names now, but the thing is
Speaker 1: like when you bring up the show to certain queens,
Speaker 1: like and you ask if they have auditioned, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like a roll of the eyes or like or whatever,
Speaker 1: but you get the sense that it's like this thing
Speaker 1: that they all kind of hate. But would be on
Speaker 1: in a second, like it's the relationship with the show
Speaker 1: is so strange thing about it, like a Carol Night
Speaker 1: or like like us Now, yeah, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: really good example. It's like as comedians in New York,
Speaker 1: there are incredible comedians. Ever you can go to like
Speaker 1: any show at like any of the theaters in Europe
Speaker 1: will be like that person is fucking hysterical? Who is
Speaker 1: that person? And then like they're on a team for
Speaker 1: a while and they do it and they're like just
Speaker 1: a comedian in New York and they never get the acclaim.
Speaker 1: But then there are people that rides up super quickly
Speaker 1: that get us and now that are also super talented,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean those other people are not super talented.
Speaker 1: And I think for drag Race, it's become like drag
Speaker 1: Race has made drag thankfully part of pop culture, which
Speaker 1: is great for everyone and the LGBTQ community because like
Speaker 1: everyone celebrating something that started with us, but it's also
Speaker 1: made it like so they can't feel successful now unless
Speaker 1: they get on that show. And like what happens for
Speaker 1: a queen like Tina Burner I think is literally one
Speaker 1: of the best queens in New York. She's been doing
Speaker 1: it for a while. She slays and she you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about Dragon. She's like, I have auditioned. She's like,
Speaker 1: my videos get tons of views, like the producers watch
Speaker 1: and live for it. But then I'm not on and
Speaker 1: I'm like, honestly, I think they're dumb to not put
Speaker 1: you on because you would be an amazing character and
Speaker 1: she might part of our show. As we wanted the
Speaker 1: girls to be able to do drag Race, so like
Speaker 1: they can do drag race like and also be on
Speaker 1: the show. They can also they probably would be like
Speaker 1: they would leave first season to do it, but like
Speaker 1: they can do drag race because it's a part of
Speaker 1: the drag community in New York that they're gonna want
Speaker 1: to do it. It is still aspirational no matter what.
Speaker 1: It's the sailing, it's the sailing. And I think many
Speaker 1: of the queens on the show are going to probably
Speaker 1: make it on drag Race someday. Yeah. I think so too,
Speaker 1: and I hope so for them, Like I think they're
Speaker 1: all I love them all like so much and I
Speaker 1: want them all to succeed, which is why I put
Speaker 1: them on my show because I was like, you guys
Speaker 1: are stars. They're all incredible to the queasy assemble for it.
Speaker 1: I think that Brita Filter is like in terms of
Speaker 1: the gay community, I think that's a future household name.
Speaker 1: Because the thing with Britta and this is interesting. She
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't want to be on drag race.
Speaker 1: I want to be the next Roup Paul And I'm like, girl, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you go do it because I could see
Speaker 1: that for you. And she even breaks outside the boundaries
Speaker 1: of like you know that kind of drag where she'll
Speaker 1: fucking do a lip SYNCX of a song with a
Speaker 1: key and peel sketch. She is, she gets it. What
Speaker 1: I would do is if I was hers, I would
Speaker 1: wait till I had fucking five thousand followers and then
Speaker 1: I would apply and then I would Bianco Delrio this
Speaker 1: ship and come in and just literally eat the competition.
Speaker 1: Well that's the other thing, like do you do you
Speaker 1: do it when you're just like coming up and people
Speaker 1: are starting to live for you, and then you might
Speaker 1: not do superow in the competition, then that's it. Or
Speaker 1: do you wait until you're like an established queen and
Speaker 1: then you're like now they look for now I think.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of these queens that I'm hearing
Speaker 1: going to be on the next season are big social
Speaker 1: media queens. I'm sure you've heard the rumors and like
Speaker 1: things have been confirmed or whatever by people that we know.
Speaker 1: But like these queens that get on like they do
Speaker 1: have social media followings because you know, World of Wonder,
Speaker 1: Like any company is gonna want to have people get
Speaker 1: excited about their contestants. It's like how The Voice Now
Speaker 1: and American Idolieve and I think recruit people to audition,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's not this thing of
Speaker 1: I came in from the field and I heard there
Speaker 1: was the singing competition and I love to sing in
Speaker 1: the mirror. Let me struck on my number and see
Speaker 1: what happened. That girl's name carry Underwood. That's literally impression Dakota, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: But I think the TV is different now because social
Speaker 1: media has literally changed the game. Like the television doesn't
Speaker 1: need these people, just like MTV doesn't like musicians don't
Speaker 1: need MTV anymore, or that these people don't need the TV. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, like they like these queens are great. They
Speaker 1: can make their own content, they can like all their
Speaker 1: pictures their Instagram is basically like their resume at this point,
Speaker 1: and they're booked on the same shows as the big queen.
Speaker 1: Like I just saw a Lissa Edwards just doing a
Speaker 1: show at like Screwball, and she's on it with did
Speaker 1: she did she did it with Gritta Like it was.
Speaker 1: It was just I was like there before for the
Speaker 1: same crowds, all those people, and you know, the show
Speaker 1: will sell out because it's a Lissa who I think
Speaker 1: is probably the biggest queen right now in terms of
Speaker 1: like beyond obsessed. I mean, of course beyond of course,
Speaker 1: and but all those people that came to the show,
Speaker 1: we'll see Brittain and be obsessed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And and I'm sure her numbers are skyrocking in terms
Speaker 1: of followers. I do think that the next rue Paul
Speaker 1: will come from that show, but but who knows what
Speaker 1: it will be. I disagree because that show sets it
Speaker 1: up where like if you're the most successful drag Race,
Speaker 1: you're the most successful from RuPaul's show. Right, It's not
Speaker 1: a it's a show where it's like it's someone's competition
Speaker 1: and RuPaul is I mean the best. We love her,
Speaker 1: but like it makes it impossible for someone to surpass her.
Speaker 1: Everyone's success will be tethered to Rue. That's because we
Speaker 1: have yet to see what's going to happen with these
Speaker 1: spinoff shows. Is going to have her spinoff show, like
Speaker 1: the House of Edwards, Trixie and COTTI are gonna have
Speaker 1: a spinoff show. Let's see how those play out. You
Speaker 1: could have someone break out maybe, I mean remember like,
Speaker 1: but I think it's just as possible. This is what
Speaker 1: Mike is saying, is that someone unassociated with the show,
Speaker 1: what might like blow the funk up in a way
Speaker 1: that's completely irrespective of that. Yeah, so he literally, I
Speaker 1: mean who knows? Who knows? Okay, let's move on to
Speaker 1: not I don't think so, Honey, we have a twist.
Speaker 1: We have a twist because Mike Hell then I'll say
Speaker 1: this again, has a show running up the UCB currently
Speaker 1: called Yes Honey, Storytelling Storytelling Show at u c B Chelsea,
Speaker 1: and it will be two times a month. You can
Speaker 1: check u c b um Theater dot com or whatever
Speaker 1: and get on the schedule and see if you got
Speaker 1: I'm going to do a quick plug all the queens
Speaker 1: we were just talking about on my show. We're doing
Speaker 1: it's going to be a direct show October um, say,
Speaker 1: before Kelly Clarkton's album comes out exactly, and we timed
Speaker 1: that out perfectly. But it's I'm doing my storytelling show
Speaker 1: and then it's becoming a dreg show and likes and
Speaker 1: again that show is directed by Shannon O'Neill. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put pressure on r now because I'm gonna say it, Honor,
Speaker 1: have we asked her to be on this show? Okay,
Speaker 1: well we'll reach out again because I really wanted to
Speaker 1: come on this show the best, the best and also
Speaker 1: the busiest, but she can clear endlessly interesting. Okay. We're
Speaker 1: not doing I don't think some money. We're doing a
Speaker 1: Yes Honey. So this is where we take one minute
Speaker 1: to go positive, okay and something that we love and
Speaker 1: culture and we've never done this and we've been read
Speaker 1: by one Josh Sharp and the last I don't think
Speaker 1: so Honey live and he said I don't think so Honey,
Speaker 1: I don't think so Honey. Well, Josh, tonight, we agree,
Speaker 1: Yes Honey is going to be a one minute on
Speaker 1: the clock and we're gonna go positive about something that
Speaker 1: we love in cold because I love because you are
Speaker 1: good ends famously and we're gonna be good ends. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be good end. Do you want to start doing something?
Speaker 1: I have something? Okay, bitch, um okay, I have my
Speaker 1: notes here too. I wrote a bunch of things. There
Speaker 1: you go. I'm really excited. I'm smiling. Okay, you want
Speaker 1: me to get in front? Here we go. This is
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers, is ya? Honey? One minute? Time starts now? Yes, honey,
Speaker 1: Demi Votto, you look amazing in a new video. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm not sorry. Hi voice cracked. But you know what
Speaker 1: Demi Lavado doesn't. Demi. I love your high ponytail. I
Speaker 1: love your makeup, your beat to the gods. In every
Speaker 1: video you look amazing. Also, Demi, I loved it in
Speaker 1: every music video you're in. There's a pool chlorine, bitch,
Speaker 1: keep a chlorinated Demi. I love your Miami aesthetic. I
Speaker 1: always say your name written in neon lights. In fact,
Speaker 1: that's the name of one of your songs. Demi. Not
Speaker 1: only do you back worthwhile charities and causes like the
Speaker 1: Jet Foundation, but you show up for them. Honey. Yes, honey,
Speaker 1: you put your money where your mouth is, not like
Speaker 1: your trash expects. Friend Selena Gomez takes money from people's suffering.
Speaker 1: Who she makes money from suicide. I don't like her,
Speaker 1: that is honey, Demi Lavado. That's not wrong. Thank you
Speaker 1: for putting a talented and real face on mental illness
Speaker 1: and struggles facing many people, especially young people. And I
Speaker 1: love you. You have an amazing voice in your idolis
Speaker 1: Kelly clockson like me, and that's one minute. I love's good.
Speaker 1: She's talented, she's a good one. She's gonna blow her
Speaker 1: fucking voice out pretty stop. It's okay. There's nothing better
Speaker 1: than a diva that blows it out before Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: this is it, this is it, um, this is mine,
Speaker 1: this is yours. Oh my god, I did not prepare
Speaker 1: for this. Man. That's on you. All right, here we go.
Speaker 1: I have one and Bowen yangs. Yes, honey starts now, Yes, honey.
Speaker 1: Tabasco flavored cheese my number one favorite cracker. Do not
Speaker 1: give me rich sandwiches. Do not give me ritch bits,
Speaker 1: that's what they're called. Do not even give me white
Speaker 1: chatter cheese. That's honey. I want the tangy, spicy taste.
Speaker 1: That is just right. It's a it's a low mild
Speaker 1: on the Scoville scale, which is the scale for spiciness,
Speaker 1: for cap sison, which is the spice chemical. That's you know,
Speaker 1: when you have you chase something spicy that's kept sce.
Speaker 1: And and I love me some Tabasca flavored cheese. It's
Speaker 1: they are my favorite cracker whenever you are, if you're drunk,
Speaker 1: if you're sober, if you're a little bit of stone.
Speaker 1: You love yourself some Tabasca flavored cheese, it's bitch. I
Speaker 1: love it when I'm watching TV. I love it. When
Speaker 1: I'm talking on the phone with my friends. I love
Speaker 1: it when I am just playing my video games on
Speaker 1: my six dollar laptop. Bitch, I love it. And look,
Speaker 1: if you want to buy some Tabasco flavored cheese, it's run.
Speaker 1: Don't walk five seconds, get the to a funnery, to
Speaker 1: the Tabasco flavored cheese. It brush me star bits one minute. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: God is love. I want to try that. I want delicious, delicious,
Speaker 1: you must you love it. I think a bit of
Speaker 1: marijuana with a little bit the brid of filter of crackers, bitch,
Speaker 1: everyone love They're the brit of filter crackers, the britt
Speaker 1: of filter of crack. Alright, so now it's Mike Mike
Speaker 1: Kelton and he's gonna do yes honey, and this is
Speaker 1: you say I want to I want to let you
Speaker 1: everyone know listening. I haven't decided what this is going
Speaker 1: to be until literally he says so, and this is
Speaker 1: this is a for real thing. I literally haven't decided.
Speaker 1: Some kid, Um, yes, yes, yeah, I had to take
Speaker 1: a break to work on the show, but I'm coming.
Speaker 1: She's on some Kid with the amazing former best of
Speaker 1: our show, mon Monique. Here we go. Now this is
Speaker 1: Mike Helton's yes honey, and this time starts now yes,
Speaker 1: I do. You want to know who's the best? Maggie
Speaker 1: Rogers is the best. And if you don't know who
Speaker 1: she is, now you know. Maggie Rodgers is one of
Speaker 1: the best musicians I've ever heard in my entire life.
Speaker 1: Started with a YouTube video of her doing a master
Speaker 1: class at NYU with Farrell or with Farrell and he's like,
Speaker 1: oh my, got to hear this song about Alaska, and
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm living for it. She's very, very spiritual.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. I saw her two weeks ago
Speaker 1: or a month ago in Brooklyn and she started out
Speaker 1: the concert by saying, I just wanted to know. This
Speaker 1: is a safe space for everyone, and we welcome everyone.
Speaker 1: If you're a refugee, if you're gay, if you're whatever,
Speaker 1: I don't give a fucking I love you and I
Speaker 1: love that. Also, she's very, very spiritual, and I feel
Speaker 1: like I've known her in the past life, which is
Speaker 1: a very fur real thing, and she talks about that stuff. Also,
Speaker 1: she has a new album coming out, because there's four
Speaker 1: songs that she already has, like Alaska and a couple
Speaker 1: other ones are very good energy and you should have
Speaker 1: sex to one of those songs. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Next albums Dancy and even gay. Maggie Rodgers. Yes, honey,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Matthew Rogers. I've never heard of her, really,
Speaker 1: and I say something her and I say something, this
Speaker 1: is really beautiful because you know what just happened. What
Speaker 1: my dog named Maggie just passed away. Mackie Rodgers. That
Speaker 1: was my wait her name was Rogers. She was ten
Speaker 1: years old, gold. She was the sweetest dog that lived
Speaker 1: in the world. And I've never heard of this person,
Speaker 1: Maggie Rodgers, until you said that. And I do believe
Speaker 1: that this part of part of Maggie Rodgers the Dog's
Speaker 1: Cosmic Moment because I was in my head I was
Speaker 1: gonna do Maggie Rodgers or Sells, Sir, and I decided
Speaker 1: last minute to do Maggie Rodgers. And you know what
Speaker 1: that is, Mike, That's gone. That's God, That's God. You
Speaker 1: know what that's gone, That's gone. Everything it is God, God.
Speaker 1: Everything comes from God. God, amazing. God is an amazing think.
Speaker 1: God is an amazing figure. And it is only God.
Speaker 1: I will father. Here you go spiritual, Well, this has
Speaker 1: been a spiritual episode of Mike Kelton on I Don't
Speaker 1: Think so well on Law riskAs and the second time
Speaker 1: do you want to hear that thing you were going
Speaker 1: to say before at the beginning of the podcast you
Speaker 1: were like, I'm gonna spill some tea on what Mike
Speaker 1: Calton said to me. Oh, yes, okay, you gotta share.
Speaker 1: So I was hosting a show at you CB with Brookshields,
Speaker 1: which went great. Did you stay and watch it? Didn't
Speaker 1: have to go home? Tie? Tie t tired? Um? So
Speaker 1: it went great. But I was walking backstage and I said,
Speaker 1: how was yes, honey, because it had up yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And he said, you know, I went through some strife
Speaker 1: when I was naming the show because I thought it
Speaker 1: was too similar to I don't think so, yes, honey, anyway,
Speaker 1: thank god. And he didn't even care. He thought, he thought,
Speaker 1: will it he thought, will it affect them? And they thought,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't give a funk. I'm Mike Calton.
Speaker 1: I dwarf these hopes. He dwarfs these hopes, stunts on
Speaker 1: them by naming his show slightly adjacent to other shows,
Speaker 1: but he surpasses them. That's Mike Calton for you. Wow,
Speaker 1: I love you a lot, and I'm really happy that
Speaker 1: you came and did this. Thank you. This is really fun.
Speaker 1: Maybe we do again, Maybe we do again on the
Speaker 1: next big project. In fact, you know, it will be
Speaker 1: fun if you came with one of the queens next time,
Speaker 1: because you know I've been I've been wanting to ask
Speaker 1: Britta to come on. Oh she'd be great. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that would be fun. Honestly, would be a joy. You
Speaker 1: know Christie Chello, I love she was so obsessed with
Speaker 1: her and we did a show with her that. Christie
Speaker 1: was also one that she had Britta on her podcast
Speaker 1: and they got along like famous old queens. Well, Bretta
Speaker 1: is such a star and also her voice. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, well we'll come back with Bretta. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: love that and this is an amazing person. And I'm
Speaker 1: also joined right here with with I an amazing person.
Speaker 1: And he is my sister. This is my rock. And
Speaker 1: we have been we have been crying, many tears. We
Speaker 1: have been crying. But that's okay. We've been. We've been,
Speaker 1: we've been signing, we've been live Okay, we've been crying,
Speaker 1: we've been di we've been sing, We've been okay. Cut
Speaker 1: it off. When he thinks because he went to musical
Speaker 1: theater school, he's better than us, kill him. Bow No,
Speaker 1: not my deck dog. This has been a foreb Dog
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