1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: You guys, this is Matt. We have two shows coming 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: up in November and they are real gags people. On 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: November seven, we are part of New York Comedy Festival. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: We're so excited. Bowen and I are pumped to bring 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Coach War and I Don't Think So, Honey death Match 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: to the Villain Stage in Brooklyn on November seven. This 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: is gonna be two teams, one team at another team 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: Bowen Boo and they're gonna be going head to head 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: to find out which team can deliver the best. I 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. This is a head to head 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: death match tournament competition, and Boone and I are going 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: to be captain and two teams. We have an amazing 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: blue ribbon panel. We're going to be really revealing very soon. 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be very good. November seven. Coach War, New 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: York Comedy Festival. Tickets on Stone now and then it's 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: back to basics, bitch. On November eighteenth, we're gonna bringing 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: our our third edition. I can't believe it's been three 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: times of I Don't Think So Honey live. Fifty comedians 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: all killing it on the stage, You and the audience 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,279 Speaker 1: getting your laugh on getting your gig, getting someone's phone number. 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: I think a show is a really good place to 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: meet someone because, like you're having a good time, you 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: don't have to talk about shared interest. You can talk 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: about the show. It's happening right there. I don't know. 25 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: I think it might be a good idea. So come 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: as a single person, will come with a new date, 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: but either way, come to either show or both. We 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: have Culture on November seven, then to York Comedy Festival, 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: and I don't think so, honey Live Brooklyn Podcast Festival. Lally, 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: what are you thinking right now? I'm thinking I didn't 31 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: drink this coffee in the right time frame. What you 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: drink too late? Well you'll be up on that. I 33 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: drink too early. And now I'm a little crashy crash room. 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: But no, I'm great. I'm like still there, I'm still wired. 35 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: But you know I'm I'm dangling off the cliff, bitch. Okay. 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: I had the option to drink a coffee off or 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: PM today and I said, you know what, no, because 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to be up all night because you 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: know what that caffeine does to a bit like caffeine 40 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: does wonders. How listen, you want to know something. Kombucha Update. 41 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't, Okay, yes, I do. Kombucha Update. 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: Bought some Synergy ginger It's sitting in my fridge because 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: I have no desire to drink it. Okay, Well, I'll 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: come over tonight and I'll have it. It's just it 45 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: looks disgusting. Um. By the way, you know who sent 46 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: me a picture of them and the gingerid kombucha Who 47 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: Katherine Cohen? Oh, and she said, taking the advice of 48 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: my bitch. So you could say that Kombucha Nation has 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: just begune. It's like Bachelor Nation, but healthier, but health Um, 50 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: do we have a good guest today? I think we 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: have a respellndent guess maybe like a true I a 52 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: true legend, a gay baron, a gay robber baron. And 53 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: I love actually so much, love him, love him. He's 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: some of his stories have changed my life. Yeah, and 55 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: actually I want I want some of them to be told. 56 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: Some of them we told. And he's telling some of 57 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: his stories at his amazing new show at you CB. Yeah, 58 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: and that leads perfectly into the credits. Bokay, bit um, 59 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: He's got an amazing show running at UCB Chelsea and 60 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: it's called Yes Honey, and it is directed by the 61 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: legendary UM. You will also want to keep your eyes peeled, 62 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: you guys, for the doc you follow series called Shade 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: Queens of New York City. Now, this is a drag 64 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: queen like docuseries, like slash reality show with all New 65 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: York's finest. I'm talking Marty Gold Cummings, the filter, Tina Burner, 66 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: he's live Bejia who just called our guests prior to 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: us UM going on the air, and we had to 68 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: kick her off. We had to kick her off because 69 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: we said, no, Michael, he has a heart out. He 70 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: has a heart out. He's gonna hard out at a thirty. 71 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: But he arrived a brisk twenty minutes late. I burn 72 00:03:53,840 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: I put I put on blasts. Not my fault, Dad, 73 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: Everyone looking, Mike Celtain, explain yourself why the lateness? Okay 74 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: for real, got an invite to this UM recording, which 75 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: is very professional. Kudos. But also the address was eighty 76 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: one President Street, and so I went to the address 77 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: I'm looking at and I'm upset. Were you guys not 78 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: aware it might have been a producers fault? It was? 79 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: It was hot producer jo w HJ. So I went 80 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: there and I'm just standing outside this house and this 81 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: old woman came out and kept looking at me and 82 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: I was like, hey for the podcast bay. She was 83 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: like she just kept like staring at me and didn't 84 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: say a thing. And I was like, I'm for sure 85 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: we're going to be like a spell is gonna be 86 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: put on me the email and I was like, Babe, 87 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: here's where I'm at. And they're like, that's not where 88 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: we're supposed to be. Sorry about it. Uber at the 89 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: old woman's house with a dream and a nice shirt. Okay, 90 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm glad it's got cleared up. And honest this is 91 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: like a classic just capsule of a Mikekelton story that 92 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: will like that puts you in that place. Honestly, I 93 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: was there with him, you know what. He's so gifted 94 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: that when he was telling us what had just happened 95 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: to him, I saw it all. I saw the woman 96 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: she was hunched over. Did she have a hunch, a 97 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: huge hunch? Tell us about this dog? Oh my god? Okay. 98 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: So I think in life in jen like like there, 99 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: you get to a point and you're like you're like, 100 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: do I what do I do? Do I get a dog? 101 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: Do I get a baby? Do I get engaged? Do 102 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: I move out of my apartment? Do I moved back 103 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 1: home to Indiana? Sometimes it's the sequence of those things 104 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: exactly could be one, two three. So I decided. So 105 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: me and Andrew have been together a while, and we've 106 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: been like kind of hinting at the dog thing each other. 107 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: It's kind of scary because you're like, you get a 108 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: dog with a person, you gotta be with that person, 109 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: and or if you break up, it's like someone takes 110 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: the dog. So it's like that you have to have 111 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: that kind of precursor conversation, right, Yes, of course, who 112 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: gets a dog? Yeah, So the way it happened is 113 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: we were talking about dogs for a while and then 114 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: we both got super busy, and then Um started working 115 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: on the show. And then the first week of pre production, 116 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: I was super super tired. We went out to dinner. 117 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: I didn't have any free time. We're at we're sitting 118 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: outside of our favorite restaurant, Building on Bond in Brooklyn. Okay, 119 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about building on Bonds. Okay, Okay, 120 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: I have some isshoes, but keep going. Okay, Okay, I'm 121 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: into talking about it. Okay, okay, We're at building a bond. 122 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: We're sitting outside and I was like, just like venting 123 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: to Andrew what happened all the time, And He's like, 124 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: what's wrong? And I was like, I'm just so stressed. 125 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: I didn't know that this was going to be this 126 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: must work. And I was like, the only thing that 127 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: could make this better is a dog. And he was like, 128 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: you're an idiot. That's like impossible. But then then what happens. 129 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: My wallet falls out of my back pocket in my 130 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: short it's okay. An hour later, a woman comes by 131 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: walking with the dog, and the dog sniffs my wallet 132 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: and finds my wall because I would have forgot it. 133 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: And I go, oh my god, what a gem of 134 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: a dog. And she goes for adoption, babe, and I 135 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: that very dog, that very dog, Oh my god, And 136 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: I go, no way, babe. So then we like are 137 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: obsessed with his dog. His name was Django, Django wild anyway, 138 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: So we we end up going I know, it's honestly wild. 139 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: So we go back to this woman's apartment, we have 140 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: wine with her. Um we realized like she's a little 141 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: bit unstable, so we like we had to get up. 142 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: But then we just applied online at badass Brooklyn and 143 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: incredible organization. We applied were like four lasses of wine 144 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: in and so we made this amazing application that talked 145 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: all about us and our experiences where we want a dog. 146 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: And then they were back next day, was like Django 147 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: has actually been adopted, but like we've got Curtis, and 148 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: you were like, Curtis is not Django exactly. We thought 149 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: he was ugly, ugly, he was ugly, and so we 150 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: were like, well, we'll just wait around because it's not 151 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: the time and right, and then we went to an 152 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: adoption event and we just like literally fell in love 153 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: with Curtis. And he's so Curtis Curtis better looking in person. 154 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Oh gorgeous person. Am I right? Can I tell you something? 155 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: So Andrew came into Brooklyn Crab with a friend and 156 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: one Sarah Grace Wellborn was waiting on Andrew and I 157 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: happened to be on the very same floor. So I 158 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: was walking around, you know, doing my thing, and I 159 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: would see out to the corner of my eyes Sarah 160 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: Grace talking to Andrew, her old friend, and she came 161 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: over to me and said, I feel really bad, and 162 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: I said what she said, Well, Andrew had mentioned before 163 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: that he and Mike are thinking about getting a dog, 164 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: and to be honest, me and the girl he's with, 165 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: we're like trying to talk him out of it. And 166 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: she said she thought he saw she thought she saw 167 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: tears well up and he put his sunglasses on. Can 168 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: I tell you something reveal? He was a little bit 169 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: upset because he really wanted the dog, and I think 170 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: they were being good friends. They were honestly being good 171 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: friends because they were like, look, you guys are really busy. 172 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: His dog is a big responsibility, and so they were 173 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: kind of doing like what they should have done. But 174 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: he was like, you know, in love with you think 175 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: about it a lot, you build it up in your hat, 176 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: and you fall in love with the dog. And so 177 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: that got back to you. Okay. I came home and 178 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: he was like, so I talked about the dog, and 179 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: he's like, I don't think they were fully upboard with 180 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: Sarah felt terrible and he came over to me, and 181 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: she is my work wife, my work spouse, and she 182 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: said to me, babe, I feel terrible. I so it 183 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: comes it down. You're at work, coming We left the floor, 184 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: I said, what's going on, babe? I put my hand 185 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: through her hair, right through the air. She said, Wow, 186 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: I just felt really stressed because I feel like I 187 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: just might have hurt Andrew's feelings. And I was like, well, 188 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's fine. I'm sure he's not weeping at 189 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: the table. Before you know it a full scene in 190 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: the restaurant. He cried, carry it out and I'm just kidding. 191 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: Oh god. I was like, he didn't tell me that. No, no, no, no, 192 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: although his sunglasses were on, which for him is just 193 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: like if it's after after six pm, sunglasses are on. 194 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: Are you and Andrew both like, um, sunglassgates? No, definitely 195 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: sunglass gates. And we're like kind of opposites, which is 196 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, are you both like that sensitive? 197 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: I feel like you're not. You are someone who is 198 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: a feeling person, but only for the things that really 199 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, matter, Oh, that's that's nice, and would 200 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: you agree with that? Maybe that's maybe that's an unfairsism. 201 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: I am very empathetic. Were like I take on people's 202 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: energy and like I when there's like big issues going 203 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: on in the world, I like take it on and 204 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: I get really upset about it. Um and I am 205 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: pretty sensitive. We're kind of both sensitive, but we just 206 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: deal with it in different ways. So would you have 207 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: reacted responded the same way in that's you if your friends, 208 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: if you're like some of your close friends were like, 209 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: maybe it's not a good idea. I think I would 210 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: have told them in the moment, been like, you guys 211 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: are hurting my feelings. Yes, you would have. And I 212 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: think he I think he kind of did come like 213 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: with a little bit of that, but I think he 214 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: was just like he was really listening to their advice 215 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: because he I mean, because they did not have a point. 216 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: They had a point, and they they said what they 217 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: should have said in that moment, but like that didn't 218 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: stop us, and we got Kurt. Kurt, he's the best. 219 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: And here's the other thing this is this is like 220 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: because I'm so busy, I hate hearing this later, but 221 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: like I can afford to pay for dog. I liked help. 222 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: We got a lot of help. You know. Look, I 223 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: have the means I was someone Today I was reading 224 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: this profile on New York Magazine about Lisa Ling and 225 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: like what her life is like, and she like gets 226 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: real about like childcare. She's like, I'm so grateful, like 227 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: an afford childcare when so many mothers can't. A team, 228 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: and then someone someone in the comments is like, I'm 229 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: it's so refreshing for someone who has money to be 230 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: up front about having access to that. I was like, 231 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: is it refreshing? I mean, like it's great, just like 232 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: appreciate the honest, appreciate the honesty. But it's like, no, great, 233 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, no, that's just a matter of fact thing, 234 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: like you have it or you don't, and it's great 235 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: if you have it. And it's because if you don't, 236 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: I think logistically, like it would be really tough to 237 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: have a day where like we were both he was 238 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: at school and grad school right now, and I was 239 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: gone all day and I would be like I don't 240 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: want to leave. It's not nice to do. But since 241 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: we can bring him to doggy daycare, it feels like 242 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: a possibility. Great. I also think sometimes it pisces a 243 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: lot of mothers off when they read these stories about 244 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: like Hollywood moms who do it all, and they never 245 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: mentioned the fact that they have helped. It's like, don't 246 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: pretend like you're this superwoman who has this twenty million 247 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: dollar a film career and also is like there for 248 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: everything and meeting all the teachers and knows their names. 249 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: Like that I think would piss me off as a mother. 250 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: So it's kind of nice to hear when people are 251 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: being super honest about the fact that, like, yes, I 252 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: have a team, Please don't think that, like I honestly 253 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: know what they're doing in schools. The same thing where 254 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: like Erica Jane will be like, look, I spent four 255 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: hours on this face, Like I have a full team 256 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: that did my hair and makeup, and that's why I 257 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: look amazing. If you were to see me waking up, 258 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: I would look like ship, which is that honestly, we 259 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Okay, I see that tell us about Kurt 260 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: what kind of what kind of breed, whatever, everything tell us, 261 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: so no one knows what he is and everyone is 262 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: like everyone has their own opinion. Like when we got him, 263 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: they said Bowl masstif the website, which the thing about 264 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: bowl massifs is they can become like a hundred pounds 265 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: and huge dogs like Kurts like and they said he 266 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: was in between one and two, which also like our 267 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: Vette disagreed with. And that was like, there's no way 268 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: he's even one, and we were like, really, yeah, they 269 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: think it's like puppy. So like we we've kind of 270 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: like if we average everything out based on everyone's ideas 271 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: about how old and what he is. He is a 272 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: bull mastiff pit boxer. He's a bit of who is 273 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: one years old. We'll just call him one one and 274 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: it's a it's a male dog. It's a male dog. Yes, 275 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: it's not a female name. Kurt No, I thought that 276 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: would be fun, that it would be fine, it'd be 277 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: a real nice fuck you two Republicans. I'll tell you 278 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: that all these Republicans out there saying dogs the gender 279 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: gender normal names, they're out there saying that that's true. 280 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: That's honestly a very good point, which brings me to 281 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: talk about gender neutrality. Um, why can I be really 282 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: vulnerable for a moment. I want you to open up. 283 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: Calton found me out of Starbucks in a really in 284 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: a really i'm not gonna say low place, but in 285 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: a really specific place. You are a guardian angel. No no, 286 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: and he didn't. I don't know if he saved me 287 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: because what he did was what I did. What I 288 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: did was one on Craigslist, bought a gaming laptop for 289 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: six remember, and I took it to a Starbucks to 290 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: start downloading some patches for this game. And who should 291 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: walk in but the warm but towering physicality of Mike 292 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: Calton and what's And then he was just like, what's 293 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: that like? Basically was just like asking what I was doing? 294 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: And I had I was just very honest. I was like, 295 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: I just bought this computer with six dollars in cash, um, 296 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: and how I need to start downloading this game so 297 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: that I can it can download while I'm at work. 298 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: And he round the shamed me. And I don't know 299 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: if I've recovered from oh my god, you didn't you 300 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: took a picture? You took you took a picture of 301 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: me on your Instagram story and people people texted me, 302 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: they were like, I just saw you on Mike Calton's 303 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: Instagram storey are you okay? And UM, I don't know. 304 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: I think I think I owe an apology. Wow, oh 305 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: my god, I will for sure apologize. No, but the 306 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: thing is I will not do this, but I take 307 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: it back. That's fair, that's fair. I thought that was 308 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: going to have a positive twist because I had a 309 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: story about running into Kelton. I have a million of 310 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: those stories. I feel like you just appear sometimes because 311 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: like my golly, I don't see you a lot, but 312 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: I see you when it counts. Bitch. Was right after 313 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: I literally left the audition for the CBS Diversity Show, 314 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: and I had such like a I really didn't want 315 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: to go do that, but I had a film like 316 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: I booked and a long behold we did buck and 317 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: then it didn't end up happening for like crazy, wild reasons. 318 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: But I remember I said to you, I was like, 319 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to do this, and you were like, 320 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: you have to to do what you want to do 321 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: and create work and not be like being a part 322 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: of like something that you don't want to be a 323 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: part of. And then I I ended up like saying 324 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: I would do it and everything. But in the back 325 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: of my head, I always knew that was true, and 326 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: I knew you were right, and I always I was 327 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: just like, no, Kelton is right, and this is not 328 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: going to happen. And then literally, like cosmically, it didn't 329 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: end up happening because realistically you should not have done it. 330 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: For some reason. It was you compromising, even though it 331 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: felt like a success. I feel like this happens a 332 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: lot to a lot of our friends were like, we 333 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: there's all this pressure on us because of what we're doing, 334 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: and there's no actual road to success. So we like 335 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: to create like an idea, a roadmap of like, well, 336 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: if this happens, like it'll be successful and people will 337 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: be like they're doing it, and then I'll feel better 338 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: about myself. But like and that those showcases are great 339 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: for people. But the way that you expressed it to me, 340 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: you were like, I did this, and the energy around 341 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: it is like I did what I think they wanted 342 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: me to do, and like I know, as like someone 343 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: who's audition for that off, I'm like, I'm gonna go 344 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: in and like do some gay stuff, you know what 345 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's a diversity thing. I'm gonna like 346 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: I'll do a woman at a wedding, you know, like 347 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: I'll do I'll do like a gay thing, and then 348 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: I'll do an animal or something like. And and like 349 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: your energy was telling me that it was like authentic, 350 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: inauthentic for you, and you were like, but I did 351 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: a really good job at like what I think they wanted. 352 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: And so I was telling you, like listen to that 353 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: gut and don't fit into other people's mold, because I 354 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: think there's like I think that's what kills people in 355 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: this industry is like fitting into a mold and like 356 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,239 Speaker 1: knocking it out of the park. And then when they 357 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: get the success, they look around and people are looking 358 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: to them of like who are you as an artist, 359 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: and they're like, not what you like? Ship? What are now? 360 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: And you were one of the first people like in 361 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: the well, in the UCB community, or really even in 362 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: the comedy community at large, that I saw that was 363 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: really doing their own thing that I looked up to 364 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: because you were like doing your gay ass thing and 365 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: like it was you and like Josh and Aaron like 366 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: and like BSJ Like I just like looked up to 367 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: you guys because I thought, you know, they're not doing 368 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: it the way everyone else does it, and they're doing 369 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: it in a way that I get and I know 370 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: that other people are going to get and it's meaningful 371 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: and I was and that's huge. Like you, I remember, 372 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: I like I felt like I scored in their performance 373 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 1: early on, for like, while you were in the audience 374 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: at the pit and you went to leave the audience 375 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: and I ran out to go like talk to you 376 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: because I wanted your validation seriously, like I love you. 377 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so nice. I do. I love you. 378 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: I've always looked up to you so much. Every Like 379 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: I remember when I first met you in the Pit 380 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: Love Bar. I was like I went up to and 381 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm actually like a big fan, and 382 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: you were friends with Doug and you were like, oh 383 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: my god, who is this crazy fucking bitch. No, I like, 384 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: it's so funny because I genuinely was like, I was like, 385 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: this guy is fucking adorable and super authentic, and like 386 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: the fact that you said that, and I was a 387 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: big fan of you. I which, well, I was a 388 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: big fan of the both of you because I talk 389 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: to you. Every time I would pitch something, I would 390 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: always include you, and then we were like kind of similar, 391 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: so I would be like, well, if up up Madden, 392 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: it's like I gotta take myself out of here. Like, 393 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: but I when you said that to me, I remember that, 394 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, You're so funny and you're both 395 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 1: like you're both very loud and like this is who 396 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: I am. So when you said to me, I was like, 397 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: you're already doing that, Like I I see that in you, 398 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of like the confidence that allows 399 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: you to go up to and be like, hey, I 400 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: love what you do. That allows you to, I think, 401 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: like do what you do, but you're not making sense. 402 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: It really does. It's a it's a setting of it's 403 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: a setting free of yourself, but it's you need to 404 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: see an example of that that that just sort of 405 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: happening by example. And my my, my sort of seared 406 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: Celton memory is a fancy man show. I was like, 407 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: it is an indicage match, and I think you just 408 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: this is all you said, Like your character was like 409 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: screaming really loudly, and like I think something like Henry 410 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: Russell Bergstin was like why are you where are you 411 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: talking so loudly? And then you just said I have 412 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: I have deaf, I have deaf And it was so no, 413 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying no it was I swear it 414 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: was not like able as Journey thing. It was just 415 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: like it was just like an earned funny moment and 416 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: I will never forget it because it was so goddamn 417 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: funny in the moment and like, Okay, there's just Jamie 418 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: Stoles to host this podcast called The Waiting Game, and 419 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 1: then Mike Helum was one of the first guests, and 420 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: he tells these amazing stories about like what he felt 421 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: like we're his and I don't know if it's I'm 422 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: just gonna say this for you, like you felt like 423 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: you had hit rock bottom after you got stuck in 424 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: your boss's elevator. Can you can you tell this story? 425 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: Because I think I think everyone everyone needs to hear 426 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: the story because it is it's it's amazing, it's so stressful, 427 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: and just to hear Mike sort of coming back from 428 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: that moment and like seeing where he is now is 429 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: I think so inspiring. Lost Cultures listeners. I'm excited for you. Yeah, okay, 430 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: do you do you mind ever putting on this spot? No? No, 431 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm happy to share all all this stuff. Um. I 432 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: always feel like, in general, like a thesis of like 433 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: before I tell this is like the worst things that 434 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 1: happened to you. I always think are going to end 435 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: up being like your biggest power, like Upaul says, the 436 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: things that make you different or the things that fit 437 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: you fail at are like your superpowers when you realize 438 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: how to like use them. But so this story. I 439 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: I when I was coming up at UCB, I worked 440 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: as an executive assistant at a law firm and Chelsea 441 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: and I got the job like kind of as a 442 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: mistake for this woman, who like I met at a gym, 443 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: was like, hey, I'm looking for an assistant and I 444 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: was just like, I don't have a job and I'm 445 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: taking comedy classes, so like I'll do it. And she 446 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: was like at the time, was super sweet, and we 447 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: like we became friends and it became a relationship where 448 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: like I was working for her, but we were friends. 449 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: So we would go out a lot and then I 450 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: did stuff for the firm. But it was like, I 451 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: think you shouldn't be friends with your employees, like in general. 452 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: Um is something I learned from that. So I had 453 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 1: apartments at her place for years and watched her dogs, 454 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: her adorable dogs, and was like very fun with it, 455 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: very used to it. And so this is DCM weekend, 456 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: twenty DCM weekend. Also, okay, Pride weekend, can we change that? Great? 457 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: It's not so great. So it was um DCM weekend 458 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: and I was house sitting for my boss and so 459 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: I was at McManus on the Thursday night and I 460 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: mentioned to like someone I think like Josh or Aaron. 461 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: I was like, well, they were like, we should do 462 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: something for gay Pride, and I was like, well, my 463 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: boss's common roof spaces in Chelsea right near the theater. 464 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 1: We could do like a little drinks thing from like 465 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: five to seven and then people can go to their 466 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: pride stuff or go back to DCM or whatever. It 467 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: was totally reasonable. I mean, I mean, the more I 468 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: go back to this story, the more I'm like, it's insane. 469 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: How this how the universe fucked me because I saved me. 470 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: It's not like you were doing anything like out of 471 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: the question. Okay, keep going, because yeah, I'm like the 472 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: first person to be like inappropriately like like anyway. So 473 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: so I invite people over and like it. It started 474 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: with like five people and ended up being like twelve 475 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: of us, like kind of twelve of us. So UCB 476 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: Gates like the sweetest best people in the world. You 477 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: love them, you do sometimes you cattle them. So like 478 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: it's five pm Sunday afternoon after like crazy DCM weekend, um, 479 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: and I like the way that it happens is like 480 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: the elevator goes up to the top floor so no 481 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: one was going into the apartment right. People were just 482 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: coming up to the roof and it ended up like 483 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: Brandon Scott Challenge. But was like, hey, can I bring 484 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: someone else? I was like, of course, I know all 485 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: these people. So we're up there. We're literally drinking champagne 486 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: and like having like one or two beers and like 487 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: sharing stories. It's like it's like the thing you can 488 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: think of, um. And so after two hours, it's like 489 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: seven o'clock, I'm like, all right, that's it. Like we 490 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: all clean up with like and I'm like being fastidious 491 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: about them, like, let's clean up. I want to make 492 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: sure that no one like leaves anything up here. We 493 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: put all of the bottles into these plastic bags. We 494 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: have these jingling bags, and we get in the elevator 495 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: and like it's like seven of them are in, and 496 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: then there's like eight of them in and I was 497 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: like and someone I don't know who it was, but 498 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: like maybe Brian Fonts, I don't know. I was like, 499 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: I was like, let's just all, let's just all get 500 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: in the elevator and I'm like and people have had 501 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: a couple of drinks and I'm like yeah, I was 502 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: like let's all squeeze in this elevator. We're sweaty, we're 503 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: in tank tops. Some of us have fucked each other, 504 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: like anyway, So we get in the elevator, doors close. 505 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: It literally goes down like six inches and stops like 506 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: six inches because because it's to have and here's the deal. 507 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, oh, like uh, reset, like you're 508 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: pressing like the reset button or whatever, and it just 509 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: moving a tiny bit like and then just stopping and 510 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: and it's really you couldn't move in this elevator like 511 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: it was like sucking. Like it was like it was 512 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: like the duplex like in this elevator. Literally there was 513 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 1: a piano. It literally wanted to be so so like 514 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: people are everyone's this is hysterical to everybody. Got me 515 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: to accept me because I'm like, oh, this is my job, 516 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 1: like and I did not tell my boss was having 517 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: these people over because in my mind, I was like, 518 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: it's a common roof space. It's like five to seven, 519 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: No one's it's there, they'll be gone whatever. And because 520 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: it was Sunday, the elevator company wasn't working, so I 521 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: called the number and they were like some woman was 522 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: literally in the office being like f y, I were closed, 523 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? Then just like you need 524 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: to call the fire department, so called the fire department. Um, 525 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: not one, not too but three fire trucks came to 526 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: this apartment building. We were in there for an hour 527 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: and the fireman came, go ahead, one elevator in the 528 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: whole building. One elevator whole building. And it's the thing. 529 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: It's one of those buildings where the elevator opens up 530 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: to one apartment or the other side apartment. So people 531 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: that lived in this building was a small like maybe 532 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: like twelve units in the building, but like very very nice. 533 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: It is a very nice building. And so everyone was 534 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: like we can't like get up to bring our groceries. 535 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: If there was a pregnant woman, she couldn't get up 536 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: to go home. So an hour goes by and people 537 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: are cracking jokes and I'm literally like sweating. I'm like, 538 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: my job, my job, my job, my jomba job, a job. 539 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: And at the time I couldn't I couldn't pay my 540 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: rent if I didn't make money from this job. It 541 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 1: was like why I didn't leave this job? And so 542 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: then it's happening around to that literally literally yep, yep, 543 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: and they were good bits like if I wasn't if 544 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't having anxiety attack, I would have been like 545 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: I love love love. So so then the fire department 546 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: comes up and they couldn't get the door open, so 547 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: they had to break the elevator door by like like 548 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: jamming it open, and they broke into a neighbor's apartment. 549 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: They broke down the fire door there like the full 550 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: on fired or like broke it down because I thought 551 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: it was an emergency. I mean it was. And so 552 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: then they let us out and all of us walk 553 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: down the fire exit of this building with every tenant 554 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: in the building screaming at us, who the fuck are 555 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: you guys? What apartment are you from? What the funk 556 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: is going on? And like and who was it? Um 557 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: Bryan Williams walking down like god in someone's face and 558 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: like honestly like god bless because they were being aggressive 559 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: to us. But I was like, please think of me. 560 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: Think of like the fact that like there's a person 561 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: who I'm working for and like got in someone's face, 562 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: and someone got in his face and I think he 563 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: was like, you know, fuck you, or like there was 564 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: some type of like push or something, and we got 565 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: out to the street and I will never forget this. 566 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: Like some I'm gonna throw a little bit shade. Some 567 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: people were like steal in Kiki world and they were 568 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: like we're out, like let's go to the bar. And 569 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: I was like having a panic attack, and like Brian 570 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: Foss was that just sweetie? Like there were a couple 571 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: of people that really checked in were like are you okay? 572 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: But Boss, like what can I do for you right now? 573 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: And I was like I just need to like walk 574 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: around the block and get some air. So I daddy, 575 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: So I called my boss. I literally like this is 576 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: the person I am. I called her right away and 577 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: I was like crying. I was like, here's the deal, 578 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: was like, this is what happened. She's like, are the 579 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: dogs okay? And I was like the dogs are fine. 580 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: I was like I put them in doggy daycare because 581 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: I didn't want them not paying because I knew I 582 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: was gonna be out on that at TCM, like I 583 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: was like being super proactive even though she hired me 584 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: to want to talk to the weekend but I'm talking. 585 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: But I was like super proactive about everything, and so 586 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: she was like it's totally fine, like my neighbors are crazy, 587 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: and then cut to like three days later, I go 588 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: into her office and she fired me, And I think, 589 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: like the co op board really put the pressure on 590 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: of like this guy out of rager and liked and 591 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: so like they put pressure on her and she felt 592 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: that stress. So I got fired and it was like 593 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: I literally was like, I don't know how I'm going 594 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: to pay my rent. I have a wedding to go 595 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: to this weekend. I'm twenty six. I can't even afford 596 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: to get to this wedding or give a wedding gift. 597 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: Like it was. It was so bad, But like the 598 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: moral of the story is I had for a good year. 599 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: I had written drafting, like three draft emails to my 600 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,239 Speaker 1: boss quitting being like you're amazing, thank you for this 601 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: opportunity and this paycheck, but I need to leave and 602 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: like be a creative person, I can't be working in 603 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: a law firm. And I never hit sent send, And 604 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: I you know what, when you're sad, like and you 605 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: buy a computer for the video games, like you like 606 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: can't you can't get past it. You can't be proactive 607 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: about like making that hard decision. I couldn't do it, 608 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: and so like, thank god the elevator broke because it 609 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: forced me to like be on unemployment and be super 610 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: poor for a year and a half and like work 611 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: on what I should be working on, which is like 612 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: being a fucking nutcase now. But how long did it 613 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: take you to get to a place of even like 614 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: being happy again after that happened? Was that, like were 615 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: you like in the depths for like a couple a 616 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: little while. What's so weird about it is when I 617 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: was fired, I like was overcome with like sadness and 618 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: I was packing up the stuff like I was fired. 619 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: I had to leave like this person who had known 620 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: for three years my desk, and I'm like packing up 621 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: my stuff and walking out of the store. And as 622 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: soon as I got to the street with all of 623 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: my stuff, I felt amazing. Really literally was like, oh, 624 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: I was like, this is it. This is my fucking ticket. 625 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: Like think it's just when ship happens, that's really bad. 626 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: I think the moment after you realized like that had 627 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: to happen, there's some kind of relief. And then I 628 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: went to like I'm lucky that my dad works New York. 629 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: So I went to my dad's office and I cried 630 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: to my dad and I was like, you're a fucking idiot. 631 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: Like here, we're gonna get you a phone. So I 632 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: he had to get me a phone because my phone 633 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: was on the firm's It was like it was bad. 634 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: Did your friendship with her survive or was that also over? Um? 635 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: We didn't talk for like a good two years. And 636 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: then because we were friends and like we we were 637 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: friends and she I forget who was one of us, 638 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: emailed each other and was like, hey, let's let's connect 639 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: and then we got drinks and we like we hashed 640 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: it out. We had like that conversation. I was like, 641 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: I apologize, like what happened sucked, and she's like, I apologize, 642 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: and I'm actually going to next week the firm's fifteen 643 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: year anniversary, which is like cool and and that's like, um, 644 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: and I mean, I don't know, this sounds sort of petty, 645 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: but it's like you get to just show everybody like 646 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: where you are now, and it's it's this much by 647 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: a beautiful gown. Let me just arrive like like posing 648 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: as if there's a red carpet, like like they're up 649 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: on the on the line of paparazzi and like just 650 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: like I don't know, I'm doing it like my post 651 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: right now that I would do if I were like 652 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: it's good. It's like it's like it's Chloe. It's like 653 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think I'm channeling right now. I think 654 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: like prime, her prime even Longori, oh yeah, her six 655 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: month prime. It was many years sid Um waiting on 656 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: for the story. Can you I almost want you to 657 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: name name is that you can just say now who 658 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, who who is like still in key 659 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: che mode after all of us? Can you tell us? 660 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: Because I feel like it's been long enough where you 661 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: can just say it and it's like, no harm. Do 662 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: you remember just like bye, they were like by I 663 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: mean like they're such funny people. They were just like 664 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: they were like you'll realize one day how funny this is. 665 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 1: Like that's I never know what you want to hear 666 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 1: the moment at all. No, not at all, but like 667 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: that makes total sense and like that not I've never 668 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: seen either of them be upset over anything. Yeah, they 669 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: don't get upset, they don't get up. I feel like 670 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 1: sometimes with Um, with Josh, I feel like we've been 671 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: hanging out and I said something sincere, and I think 672 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: he looked at me and burned a hole in my soul. 673 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, yeah, really, and he's 674 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: like Okay. I was like, Josh, and he's just one 675 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: of those people that like, I think he's I always 676 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: think that Josh and Aaron are like quicker than me. 677 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: We like sometimes I'm trying to catch up with the 678 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: jokes a little intimidating at first because they're so fucking funny, 679 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: icons so funny. Wait, okay, we're gonna ask you what 680 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: we ask all of our guests on the show, which 681 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: is what is the culture that made you say? Culture 682 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: is for me? Yeah, this is the culture as you 683 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: were growing up, Like, I don't know what happens at 684 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: different agess for different people. You know, ten twelve, fourteen, movies, films, 685 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: television are situational thing the culture that really caused you, 686 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: Michael Kelton, to step into the world of culture. Great, Um, 687 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: I think I understand the question and perfectly. Yeah, it's 688 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: part of the show that we make the question in 689 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: a little fucked up okay, because it has to sound 690 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: a little different each time. Okay, okay, I will jack 691 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: a little pill. Oh my god Jack A little pill 692 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: is like very much. I feel like what to find 693 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: me as a little gay boy, because I was like 694 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 1: I was angry, but then I was like blissfully unaware, 695 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: and then I was just like jamming, Oh, when to 696 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: your house, act in your room, open the door without 697 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: ringing a bell. It's really good. It's not that good. 698 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: But that song is like the hidden track, and people 699 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: don't I think, no, it as well as they should, yes, 700 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: because I feel like they turned the album off when 701 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,439 Speaker 1: the last song ends. But you have to keep listening track. 702 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 1: But this is interesting because I feel like you weren't. 703 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't call you an rule number. You have to 704 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: listening to the hidden track. I feel like you're not 705 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: an angry person now it. I don't think. I don't 706 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: think Atlantis. I mean, wow, this is gonna be a 707 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: hot take. I don't think Atlantis was an angry person. 708 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: I think she was a smart person. Like someone who's 709 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: angry gets broken up with and they like they burned 710 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: the house down, or they like go after the person 711 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: or smash the windows out their car. But a smart 712 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: person writes a song that becomes a number one hit 713 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: that makes that person feel like the biggest douchebag the 714 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: rest of their life. Oh and you think that's what 715 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: happened to Atlantis. You don't think she ever acted on 716 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: those feelings. You think she just wrote them out. You 717 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 1: think had she actually been confronted, she would just be like, UM, okay, 718 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: I actually need to like step away from the situation. Yeah, 719 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: Or she'd be like, oh, I don't care, like like 720 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: I feel like with with like uh storytelling, that's what. 721 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: Like I have trouble in the moment when stuff really 722 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: upsets me, Like I can be like I have trouble 723 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: sticking up for myself because I like to make other 724 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: people feel comfortable. But like like the situation where where 725 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: I got fired, Like I when she fired me, I sat, 726 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: I stood in her office and I just cried and 727 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: I kept saying I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry because 728 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: I I couldn't stick up for myself and I couldn't 729 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: be like what you're not realizing is this this? And this? 730 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: So as an artist, like I just was like I'm 731 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: gonna like I am witnessing this and I'm gonna use 732 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: it and I'm going to tell people these the story 733 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: that will like hopefully help other people or make them 734 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: laugh or whatever. Um And that's how like it's like 735 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: the weird way that I experienced life too. Like I 736 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: always know that in a relationship, if I start storytelling 737 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: about that relationship, it's kind of a bad thing because 738 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: it means I'm not dealing with the issues with that person. Um. 739 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: So in that way, that's like a like a long 740 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: winded way to say that. With Atlantis, I like, I 741 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: was like, I get you. Girls. That's so interesting that 742 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: your response to conflict us to like retreat and apologize, 743 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: because mine is fully to be very differentive and argumentative. 744 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: I've noticed that about myself, I mean different strokes. It's 745 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: it can be helpful to be that way. Like I 746 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: think sometimes I really wish I could just be like 747 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: shut the funk up right now and listen to the 748 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: real situation. But I just like accept things. I'm one 749 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: of those kids that always was like I was never 750 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: in trouble, and if people were like you did this, 751 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: I was like, you're right, and you know what, I 752 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: apologize Like I was like, even if I didn't do it, 753 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: I always took responsibility for things. Yeah, So Atlantis, that 754 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: was ninety six, So this was like I guess early teens, 755 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: like no, n I was nine oh nine, Oh, so 756 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 1: you were kind of you were feeling feelings that really 757 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: you had no right to feel a bit. It was 758 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: from a past life. I was really feeling. I thought 759 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: you would have been like and you know there, I 760 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: can feel you know, you feel like brnon downahous, or 761 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 1: at least you think you do. But at age nine, 762 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I was. I was 763 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: kind of a quiet I was, believe it or not. 764 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: I was like a quiet, very weird kid where I 765 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: could play by myself and I just was like I 766 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: was on the swim team, so I would be at 767 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 1: the pool and I love to run around of my 768 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: speedo and like play imagination with myself. Like I was 769 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: a very very weird but like confident kid where people 770 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: were like, you're weird. I was like, I'm actually having 771 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: a glass. That's great. Oh that's great. And then the 772 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: other thing I would say culturally is um um sorry, 773 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: I can't think of the name. It's not Mean Girls. 774 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 1: It's clueless to me when like I think Mean Girls 775 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: is an incredible movie. But I feel like the generation 776 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: gap is is do you relate to clueless or do 777 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: you relate to Mean Girls, and I, you know what's 778 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: funny is like I Cluels came out when I was 779 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: like five, and then Mean Girls came out when I 780 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 1: was fourteen, So I guess looking at them both now, 781 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: it's weird because I didn't get clueless at the time 782 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: when I came out, because who's five and gets clue? Literally, 783 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: like most like teenagers don't get clueless. It's like so smart. 784 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: But there was something about that movie that and that 785 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: now looking back, I feel more than Mean Girls because 786 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: Mean Girls is more of like a Tina Face style, 787 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: like making jokes about these things, like it's very rational. Yeah, 788 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: and it but whereas Clueless it felt different. It was 789 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: like jokes about it was about high schools, but about 790 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: the world, you know, the world of the movie. That's 791 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's just like they're wearing these fucking 792 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: crazy hats like this, you know, like it's normal to 793 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: like I don't, it's just normal to look like the 794 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 1: way they look like in high school. And yeah, maybe 795 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: it because it was an Austin adaptation. Honestly, it was 796 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: like based on a classical like work in a way, 797 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: like it had that kind of timeless quality to it, 798 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: whereas Mean Girls feels like its own self contained story 799 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: that only could have been written at that time, whereas 800 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: like Clueless has this like kind of timeless story of 801 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: like you know, it feels a clue. This was like 802 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: a stamp of a generation, whereas Mean Girls is like 803 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: a really good comedy movie. Yeah, I think that's it, 804 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: and like great one liners like me, I mean you 805 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: Girls is like a standalone great film, but like people 806 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: quoted because it's just like joke. It's like Tina fe 807 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: It's and I do think it's interesting too. If you compare, 808 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get all weird right now. If you compare like, um, 809 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan's character to um no, Britney Murphy, because those 810 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: were both the new understart that became the Queen Bee. 811 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: There was a difference in the way that Britney Murphy's 812 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: character became the Queen Bee. It wasn't like it was 813 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: to me. It wasn't purely about manipulation. It was like 814 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: about people bringing her up and then when she got there, 815 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: she was like, this isn't really me, whereas like, um, 816 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: this is really hard to explain it. It feels like 817 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: an Excel chart in my head but like which I hate, um, 818 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: but it feels like it feels Lindsay Lohan's character was 819 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: like doing it as a game. She was like, She's like, 820 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,479 Speaker 1: in order to beat these people, I'm gonna play this game, 821 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: where Brittany Murphy was blissfully being like sure, like yeah, 822 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: I'll do this. Yeah, this is how you act here, yes, 823 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: where it was like her being introduced to the nineties 824 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: as opposed to like, um, you know, Lindsay Lohan like 825 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: playing the game and trying to like undercut the bitch, 826 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: you know at the end of the day. I think 827 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: they often get grouped together, but two totally different, totally 828 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: totally like it's like and it's almost like unfair to 829 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: both to like have them compete. But I think people 830 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: do it with mean girls and with Heathers, I with Clueless, 831 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: where they're kind of defining like girl driven team comedies 832 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 1: and they exist there. And I don't know, I guess 833 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: it's about time one of the like there's a new 834 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: one because it really isn't that's crazy. I mean girls 835 00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: years ago, Um, what was that movie with what's her face? A? Not? No, 836 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't count easy. I wouldn't either neither. It doesn't 837 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: seem as impact that that girl it's Hayley Steinfeld was 838 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,760 Speaker 1: in that movie of seventeen. I hear it's like people 839 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: were saying at the time, like critics were saying at 840 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: the time, that it's like of that sort of caliber, 841 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: like I feel like I gotta watch it. So I mean, 842 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: what am I saying? I'm just bringing it up as 843 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: like a reference, like that's maybe the closest thing we 844 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,399 Speaker 1: have to that, which is sad, But it's interesting that 845 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: it's probably time, you know what I mean, because really 846 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: the fact that we're talking about it means it's in 847 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: the ether and it's we're ready, or it means that 848 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: we should have a gaily. Oh how do you do that? 849 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: I was you put your tongue on the roof of 850 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: your mouth. You it's really more of a click than 851 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: it is a pop. Okay, I'm gonna truck. Well that's 852 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 1: bo that's bow and now Matt, I am known me. Yeah, 853 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: see you're doing a tongue click. You're like you're you're 854 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: you're like raising your tongue up and then like, so 855 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: what it's really more driven by one side of your mouth. 856 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: So oh, so go on, try try doing like a 857 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: like a like a she looks really, she looks really, 858 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, and I'm not good at that. I mean, 859 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 1: this is a great segway. This is a great segue 860 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: into shade Queens of New York City, Queens of New 861 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: York City, Queens of NY City. So this is a 862 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: guess can we expect like a Real Housewives style show. 863 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: It's still in development, like you're still working through it. 864 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: We have a locked one oh one, we have a 865 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 1: fine cut of two of one oh two. So like 866 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 1: the pilot is the one is done, um and we are. 867 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,280 Speaker 1: It's funny when you like, when you make up pilot, 868 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: you like figure out the style of stuff, but when 869 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: you know you have to start working on episode two 870 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 1: and three, you're like, this is what it is? Like 871 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: this you're figuring out as you go. And so it's 872 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: really interesting because the characters these queens are fucking incredible. 873 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: They're like there's such dynamic human beings that like I 874 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: keep learning more about them, and I'm like, I want 875 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: to show the world that, Like, I think the idea 876 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 1: for the show was I was talking to Marty gold 877 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: Cummings like over a year ago, and he met with 878 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: me to pitch a documentary of him moving home to 879 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: Maryland and running from mayor, and I was like, bitch, 880 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: what it's like, did that really happen? He wanted to 881 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, that's really interesting, but I was like, 882 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: tell me why you want to do that. And then 883 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: he started talking about how he's like he started doing 884 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: all these fundraising shows and getting super politically active, and 885 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: how all these queens were like doing shows to raise 886 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,280 Speaker 1: money for a queen who was beaten on the subway, 887 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: and like all of these things that really to me 888 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: subverted the expectations of like what like top of rain, 889 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: what you think of when you think of drag, which 890 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: is like like fierce people, funny people, RuPaul's drag, race 891 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,439 Speaker 1: Um living for them like but not like this kind 892 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: of like all of the heart behind it, which has 893 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: always been there, like since the beginning of gay culture. 894 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: Drag queens were the people that were like uplifting the community. 895 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: But I just think you don't people don't see that, 896 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: at least in media to me. So I was like, 897 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,919 Speaker 1: what's the story behind that? And so then I met 898 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: with all of these queens and interviewed them about the 899 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: community in New York about what they do in their 900 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: day to day lives, and I was like, oh my god, 901 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: Like that's a show. You guys are a show. And 902 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: so then like pitching this show, people are like, yeah, 903 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 1: drag queens, but like we hear a lot about drag queens, 904 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, this show isn't just drag queens. 905 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: It's like the human beings behind them. You don't hear 906 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: a lot about drag queens either, because you're being right 907 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: now with drag Race, which I would consider like maybe 908 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 1: is the only media outlet that exists right now. You're 909 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: fedest specific fun competitive and that that changes everything, of course, 910 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: and it's like it's like, oh, why have a favorite 911 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: end it's this person? But with this it's like no, 912 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: it's not about like who's better, It's just about their 913 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: human stories exactly, what like what makes them tick? What, 914 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,720 Speaker 1: what do they believe? What is their style of drag? 915 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: Like why does why does Brittain filter do drag as 916 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,280 Speaker 1: opposed is to like, uh, Tina Bernard, is it different 917 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: or is it the same thing? I know. It's like 918 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: as gay men and performers, like we all are, it's 919 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: like there's a reason why we like to make people laugh, 920 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: and it's I think it's a part of growing up 921 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: and having to make other people laugh at the point 922 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: of shame that we feel like we're wrong to begin with. 923 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: So there's something really magical and special about us. And 924 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 1: I think more so with drag performers, because not only 925 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: do they like I want to perform, but they're like, 926 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna dress as a woman. I'm gonna be a 927 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: gag myself, right, I'm going to be a clown, make 928 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: people laugh, make people feel good, and communicate something that 929 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,760 Speaker 1: ultimately makes other takes away other people's pain. And most 930 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: of those people are gay men in gay bars, and 931 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: I just think that's so universal for where we are 932 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: right now as a society of like we're so divided 933 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: and everything is pretty fucked up that like, if you 934 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: can empathize with these drag performers, Like my goal with 935 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: whatever I make is always like to show it to 936 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: my dad and have him be like, that's really cool. 937 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: My dad was like a he's a lawyer who's grew 938 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: up Republican, and like, if he can be like these 939 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 1: fucking drag queens rock, I like, I love that. So 940 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting and also scary because you're making a 941 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 1: drag show with a community online that are like waiting 942 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: for like another drag race type thing and it's just 943 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: not going to be that, which is which is sort 944 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: of how it should be. Yeah, I'm just nervous that 945 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: people are gonna be like, like, where's the like, where's 946 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 1: the like fierceness, where's the reading? Yeah, yeah, where's them 947 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: being like oh no, bitch. Like there are moments of 948 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: that because they drag queens performed, but like it's mostly 949 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: like there's like really beautiful moments where like Britta facetimes 950 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: with her mom with her mom and talks about like 951 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: struggling with her health issues and like how she her 952 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: mom at the end of this call goes goes, you 953 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: got this baby, You're my favorite drag queen, And I'm like, ah, 954 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: that's so special, Like people need to see that. That's 955 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 1: like some kid growing up in Iowa, some fifteen year 956 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: old k that's like I want to do drag but 957 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: like it's too scared too, because he's like, my mom 958 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: will disown me if you can watch the show with 959 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: his mom. Have to see the mom be like, oh, 960 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: that mom is supportive and that mom is fucking Mormon, Like, 961 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: how cool. So brought her mom to a show once 962 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: and she was so sweet, so sweet, so so sweet. 963 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: We love him. I've been to like calls it like 964 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: for like this scenes where she's not a calm like 965 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: we just want you to talk to Jesse and like 966 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: just like be your beautiful self. She's like that's it, 967 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's it. So fun. I mean, and 968 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 1: that is and just people being like, where's the where 969 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: the tongue pops? Whereas the reading like that is just 970 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: a prescriptive. People don't understand that it's an edited, yeah, 971 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: within an inch of its life thing. Even RuPaul admits it. 972 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: They produced the funk out of that. Yeah. I think 973 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 1: that's like a direct quote. So it's like, especially with 974 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: a competitive show, like it's extremely well done and I 975 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: think it's great that it exists because it opened people's 976 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: eyes up to it. I mean, I showed my dad 977 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: an episode one episode of drag Ras and it happened 978 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: to be the reunion of this year where they were 979 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: where they were like and it was like I was like, 980 00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, this isn't a normal episode at three, and 981 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: he's like, I want to watch it and his takeaway, 982 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: and he keeps saying this. Every time my sister and 983 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,800 Speaker 1: I talked about it was, you know, I was struck 984 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: by how honest they are with each other. They all 985 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,319 Speaker 1: seem very open to critique, and they're just able to 986 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: really talk about each other very honestly. And I've never 987 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: seen anything like that, because I think that's different frustrate people. 988 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think honesty, especially in like suburban areas, 989 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: like you don't talk to each other to your faces 990 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: about what's real. Like you wouldn't welcome to someone in 991 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: the grocery store and be like, hey, your daughter is 992 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,240 Speaker 1: being shitty to my daughter, and or maybe they would, 993 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: but but no, but but mothers and subreb we are 994 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: drag queens and they need to know that. But like, 995 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 1: especially with men, you know what I mean, Like you 996 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: don't you don't get real with each other in that 997 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: way and anybody, how's it? How's it going? Pretty good? Bro? Amazing? 998 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,720 Speaker 1: It's certainly not the name you're welcoming, but that's really 999 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not far off from it. They don't, 1000 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: they don't speak like that. So I think it's interesting 1001 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: to hear that. His poll was, that's interesting, how they're 1002 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: so honest with each other and how they you know, 1003 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: read each other to filth and that's okay, but meanwhile, 1004 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: honesty is also this like human thing and that's just 1005 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: your dad responding to, oh, these are human beings. And 1006 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: I think that, I mean, hopefully, I think that's probably 1007 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 1: what Shade Queens of NYC is going to do. Yeah, 1008 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's my hope for it. And there's 1009 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: it's really cool because you'll see in the first episode 1010 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,959 Speaker 1: it's very much about it's called It Takes a Village Girl. 1011 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 1: Um initially was bitch and the network was like, no, 1012 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,839 Speaker 1: it takes a Village Girl. And it's about like kind 1013 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: of Marty's activism. Literally started this club in Hell's Kitchen 1014 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: called Hell's Kitchen Democrats, and it's started like three members 1015 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,360 Speaker 1: in a living room and now there's like hundreds of members. 1016 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 1: Friend Carlson that I think, oh yeah, and they meet 1017 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: every week. And Marty, which is like a real I 1018 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: think people are going to see the show and be like, 1019 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: you created these things, and I'm like, no, this is real. 1020 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 1: Marty has his therapy show right after Hell's Kitchen Democrats, 1021 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: so he goes in face to the meeting and like 1022 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: you know, boy and face on and he like leads 1023 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: this meeting. He's like, hi, everyone, here's our new initiative. 1024 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: We're like we want to like, um, get out the 1025 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: word and have people like uh greate safe spaces for people. 1026 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: And he gives this whole speech. He's in face and 1027 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: he's like, I know, in face, but like I'm a 1028 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: drag queen, so like it over it and it's like 1029 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: it's just and then he puts up these posters and 1030 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: it's like it's really beautiful because you're like, this is 1031 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: just a human being. Like his drag has really nothing 1032 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 1: like I think maybe a byproduct of the show is 1033 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 1: some parts like the drag has nothing to do with it. 1034 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: It's just like these are really awesome people, which is 1035 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,919 Speaker 1: so cool. Um wait, we have a funny Marty gold 1036 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 1: Coving love. When Matt and I went to go see 1037 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 1: um sense of Boulevard, Marty Cummings went to and was 1038 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: like was like in full drag, and I think I 1039 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: forgot what she said, but she like she like greed it. 1040 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: She said she's had hello and she goes, I can't 1041 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 1: wait for this fucking drag showed it because it's Glenn 1042 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 1: Close being really serving and Marty Gold was there and 1043 00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: it was it was very fun to see her and 1044 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,720 Speaker 1: like Fishy drags great. Yeah, like d like a fucking 1045 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: curly ponytail, which is that you never I never see 1046 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 1: Marty like that because Marty actually didn't start This is 1047 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,280 Speaker 1: part of an episode two Marty's I'm like giving way everything. 1048 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,800 Speaker 1: But Marty didn't start wearing wigs until Drag Race because 1049 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,320 Speaker 1: drag Race auditions are this crazy thing. Yeah, I was 1050 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: going to ask, is that a topic with the girls 1051 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,600 Speaker 1: on the show. We are steering clear of it because 1052 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: we don't want to. We don't want to funk with 1053 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 1: World of Wonder, Like I know they have this like 1054 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: monopoly of like drag television shows. It's intense and I 1055 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 1: don't want to like sunk with them, Like here's our show, 1056 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,359 Speaker 1: this is our aim, and I don't want to like 1057 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,320 Speaker 1: there to be any reason of that. But um, that 1058 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: being said, Marty didn't. Marty didn't start wearing wigs until 1059 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: like his third time auditioning for drag Race because he 1060 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 1: was like, oh, everyone in drag Race has a wig. 1061 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: It's like a big part of the show, Like, don't 1062 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: take off your wig. You know, like this is a 1063 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 1: part of drag. You have to yeah, of course, but 1064 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 1: like Marty, Marty, like it wasn't a part of his 1065 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: dragon now is a part of his drag. And so 1066 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: I found that to be interesting because it's like, what 1067 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: and now he does wear wigs and you're like this, 1068 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: that doesn't seem Marty too to you. And to be honest, 1069 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: as Marty's friend, I think Marty looks best when he's 1070 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: in boy hair and face. To be honest, it's an 1071 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: iconic look for You're like, you're like, oh, that's a 1072 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: Marty coming exactly. I like that, Like I'm like, it 1073 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: looks he looks like LaRue to me, Chechi Laru, you know, 1074 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,359 Speaker 1: like bulletproof. Yeah yeah, oh my god, yeah, oh yeah, 1075 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 1: that's great. It's so interesting when you talk to a 1076 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: drag queen and you ask them that you bring it up, like, um, 1077 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't name any names now, but the thing is 1078 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: like when you bring up the show to certain queens, 1079 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: like and you ask if they have auditioned, it's kind 1080 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 1: of like a roll of the eyes or like or whatever, 1081 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 1: but you get the sense that it's like this thing 1082 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: that they all kind of hate. But would be on 1083 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,919 Speaker 1: in a second, like it's the relationship with the show 1084 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 1: is so strange thing about it, like a Carol Night 1085 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 1: or like like us Now, yeah, that's a that's a 1086 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: really good example. It's like as comedians in New York, 1087 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 1: there are incredible comedians. Ever you can go to like 1088 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 1: any show at like any of the theaters in Europe 1089 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 1: will be like that person is fucking hysterical? Who is 1090 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: that person? And then like they're on a team for 1091 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 1: a while and they do it and they're like just 1092 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 1: a comedian in New York and they never get the acclaim. 1093 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 1: But then there are people that rides up super quickly 1094 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 1: that get us and now that are also super talented, 1095 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean those other people are not super talented. 1096 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 1: And I think for drag Race, it's become like drag 1097 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,359 Speaker 1: Race has made drag thankfully part of pop culture, which 1098 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 1: is great for everyone and the LGBTQ community because like 1099 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 1: everyone celebrating something that started with us, but it's also 1100 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: made it like so they can't feel successful now unless 1101 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: they get on that show. And like what happens for 1102 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 1: a queen like Tina Burner I think is literally one 1103 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 1: of the best queens in New York. She's been doing 1104 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: it for a while. She slays and she you know, 1105 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: we talked about Dragon. She's like, I have auditioned. She's like, 1106 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: my videos get tons of views, like the producers watch 1107 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 1: and live for it. But then I'm not on and 1108 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, honestly, I think they're dumb to not put 1109 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 1: you on because you would be an amazing character and 1110 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 1: she might part of our show. As we wanted the 1111 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 1: girls to be able to do drag Race, so like 1112 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 1: they can do drag race like and also be on 1113 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: the show. They can also they probably would be like 1114 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 1: they would leave first season to do it, but like 1115 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 1: they can do drag race because it's a part of 1116 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 1: the drag community in New York that they're gonna want 1117 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 1: to do it. It is still aspirational no matter what. 1118 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,959 Speaker 1: It's the sailing, it's the sailing. And I think many 1119 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,280 Speaker 1: of the queens on the show are going to probably 1120 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: make it on drag Race someday. Yeah. I think so too, 1121 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,839 Speaker 1: and I hope so for them, Like I think they're 1122 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: all I love them all like so much and I 1123 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,319 Speaker 1: want them all to succeed, which is why I put 1124 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 1: them on my show because I was like, you guys 1125 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: are stars. They're all incredible to the queasy assemble for it. 1126 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 1: I think that Brita Filter is like in terms of 1127 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: the gay community, I think that's a future household name. 1128 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: Because the thing with Britta and this is interesting. She 1129 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 1: She's like, I don't want to be on drag race. 1130 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 1: I want to be the next Roup Paul And I'm like, girl, yeah, 1131 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, you go do it because I could see 1132 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 1: that for you. And she even breaks outside the boundaries 1133 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 1: of like you know that kind of drag where she'll 1134 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 1: fucking do a lip SYNCX of a song with a 1135 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 1: key and peel sketch. She is, she gets it. What 1136 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,479 Speaker 1: I would do is if I was hers, I would 1137 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 1: wait till I had fucking five thousand followers and then 1138 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: I would apply and then I would Bianco Delrio this 1139 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 1: ship and come in and just literally eat the competition. 1140 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 1: Well that's the other thing, like do you do you 1141 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 1: do it when you're just like coming up and people 1142 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: are starting to live for you, and then you might 1143 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 1: not do superow in the competition, then that's it. Or 1144 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 1: do you wait until you're like an established queen and 1145 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: then you're like now they look for now I think. 1146 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of these queens that I'm hearing 1147 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: going to be on the next season are big social 1148 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 1: media queens. I'm sure you've heard the rumors and like 1149 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: things have been confirmed or whatever by people that we know. 1150 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 1: But like these queens that get on like they do 1151 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 1: have social media followings because you know, World of Wonder, 1152 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 1: Like any company is gonna want to have people get 1153 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,919 Speaker 1: excited about their contestants. It's like how The Voice Now 1154 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 1: and American Idolieve and I think recruit people to audition, 1155 00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's not this thing of 1156 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: I came in from the field and I heard there 1157 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 1: was the singing competition and I love to sing in 1158 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 1: the mirror. Let me struck on my number and see 1159 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 1: what happened. That girl's name carry Underwood. That's literally impression Dakota, Oklahoma. 1160 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: But I think the TV is different now because social 1161 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 1: media has literally changed the game. Like the television doesn't 1162 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 1: need these people, just like MTV doesn't like musicians don't 1163 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 1: need MTV anymore, or that these people don't need the TV. Yeah, 1164 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 1: but yeah, like they like these queens are great. They 1165 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 1: can make their own content, they can like all their 1166 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,959 Speaker 1: pictures their Instagram is basically like their resume at this point, 1167 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,959 Speaker 1: and they're booked on the same shows as the big queen. 1168 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: Like I just saw a Lissa Edwards just doing a 1169 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 1: show at like Screwball, and she's on it with did 1170 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 1: she did she did it with Gritta Like it was. 1171 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: It was just I was like there before for the 1172 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: same crowds, all those people, and you know, the show 1173 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,439 Speaker 1: will sell out because it's a Lissa who I think 1174 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 1: is probably the biggest queen right now in terms of 1175 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 1: like beyond obsessed. I mean, of course beyond of course, 1176 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: and but all those people that came to the show, 1177 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: we'll see Brittain and be obsessed, you know what I mean. 1178 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 1: And and I'm sure her numbers are skyrocking in terms 1179 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: of followers. I do think that the next rue Paul 1180 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 1: will come from that show, but but who knows what 1181 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 1: it will be. I disagree because that show sets it 1182 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 1: up where like if you're the most successful drag Race, 1183 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: you're the most successful from RuPaul's show. Right, It's not 1184 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: a it's a show where it's like it's someone's competition 1185 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 1: and RuPaul is I mean the best. We love her, 1186 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 1: but like it makes it impossible for someone to surpass her. 1187 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: Everyone's success will be tethered to Rue. That's because we 1188 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 1: have yet to see what's going to happen with these 1189 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: spinoff shows. Is going to have her spinoff show, like 1190 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 1: the House of Edwards, Trixie and COTTI are gonna have 1191 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 1: a spinoff show. Let's see how those play out. You 1192 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 1: could have someone break out maybe, I mean remember like, 1193 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 1: but I think it's just as possible. This is what 1194 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 1: Mike is saying, is that someone unassociated with the show, 1195 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 1: what might like blow the funk up in a way 1196 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 1: that's completely irrespective of that. Yeah, so he literally, I 1197 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 1: mean who knows? Who knows? Okay, let's move on to 1198 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 1: not I don't think so, Honey, we have a twist. 1199 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 1: We have a twist because Mike Hell then I'll say 1200 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 1: this again, has a show running up the UCB currently 1201 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: called Yes Honey, Storytelling Storytelling Show at u c B Chelsea, 1202 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 1: and it will be two times a month. You can 1203 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,320 Speaker 1: check u c b um Theater dot com or whatever 1204 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 1: and get on the schedule and see if you got 1205 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to do a quick plug all the queens 1206 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: we were just talking about on my show. We're doing 1207 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 1: it's going to be a direct show October um, say, 1208 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 1: before Kelly Clarkton's album comes out exactly, and we timed 1209 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 1: that out perfectly. But it's I'm doing my storytelling show 1210 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 1: and then it's becoming a dreg show and likes and 1211 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: again that show is directed by Shannon O'Neill. And I'm 1212 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 1: gonna put pressure on r now because I'm gonna say it, Honor, 1213 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: have we asked her to be on this show? Okay, 1214 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: well we'll reach out again because I really wanted to 1215 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 1: come on this show the best, the best and also 1216 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 1: the busiest, but she can clear endlessly interesting. Okay. We're 1217 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 1: not doing I don't think some money. We're doing a 1218 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 1: Yes Honey. So this is where we take one minute 1219 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 1: to go positive, okay and something that we love and 1220 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 1: culture and we've never done this and we've been read 1221 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 1: by one Josh Sharp and the last I don't think 1222 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,360 Speaker 1: so Honey live and he said I don't think so Honey, 1223 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 1: I don't think so Honey. Well, Josh, tonight, we agree, 1224 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: Yes Honey is going to be a one minute on 1225 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 1: the clock and we're gonna go positive about something that 1226 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 1: we love in cold because I love because you are 1227 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: good ends famously and we're gonna be good ends. We're 1228 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,600 Speaker 1: gonna be good end. Do you want to start doing something? 1229 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 1: I have something? Okay, bitch, um okay, I have my 1230 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: notes here too. I wrote a bunch of things. There 1231 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 1: you go. I'm really excited. I'm smiling. Okay, you want 1232 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 1: me to get in front? Here we go. This is 1233 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers, is ya? Honey? One minute? Time starts now? Yes, honey, 1234 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 1: Demi Votto, you look amazing in a new video. Sorry, 1235 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sorry. Hi voice cracked. But you know what 1236 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 1: Demi Lavado doesn't. Demi. I love your high ponytail. I 1237 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 1: love your makeup, your beat to the gods. In every 1238 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 1: video you look amazing. Also, Demi, I loved it in 1239 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 1: every music video you're in. There's a pool chlorine, bitch, 1240 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 1: keep a chlorinated Demi. I love your Miami aesthetic. I 1241 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 1: always say your name written in neon lights. In fact, 1242 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: that's the name of one of your songs. Demi. Not 1243 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,280 Speaker 1: only do you back worthwhile charities and causes like the 1244 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 1: Jet Foundation, but you show up for them. Honey. Yes, honey, 1245 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 1: you put your money where your mouth is, not like 1246 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 1: your trash expects. Friend Selena Gomez takes money from people's suffering. 1247 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 1: Who she makes money from suicide. I don't like her, 1248 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 1: that is honey, Demi Lavado. That's not wrong. Thank you 1249 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 1: for putting a talented and real face on mental illness 1250 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 1: and struggles facing many people, especially young people. And I 1251 01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: love you. You have an amazing voice in your idolis 1252 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:05,080 Speaker 1: Kelly clockson like me, and that's one minute. I love's good. 1253 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 1: She's talented, she's a good one. She's gonna blow her 1254 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: fucking voice out pretty stop. It's okay. There's nothing better 1255 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 1: than a diva that blows it out before Okay, all right, 1256 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: this is it, this is it, um, this is mine, 1257 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 1: this is yours. Oh my god, I did not prepare 1258 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 1: for this. Man. That's on you. All right, here we go. 1259 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 1: I have one and Bowen yangs. Yes, honey starts now, Yes, honey. 1260 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 1: Tabasco flavored cheese my number one favorite cracker. Do not 1261 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 1: give me rich sandwiches. Do not give me ritch bits, 1262 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 1: that's what they're called. Do not even give me white 1263 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 1: chatter cheese. That's honey. I want the tangy, spicy taste. 1264 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 1: That is just right. It's a it's a low mild 1265 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: on the Scoville scale, which is the scale for spiciness, 1266 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 1: for cap sison, which is the spice chemical. That's you know, 1267 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 1: when you have you chase something spicy that's kept sce. 1268 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 1: And and I love me some Tabasca flavored cheese. It's 1269 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 1: they are my favorite cracker whenever you are, if you're drunk, 1270 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 1: if you're sober, if you're a little bit of stone. 1271 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 1: You love yourself some Tabasca flavored cheese, it's bitch. I 1272 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 1: love it when I'm watching TV. I love it. When 1273 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking on the phone with my friends. I love 1274 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 1: it when I am just playing my video games on 1275 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 1: my six dollar laptop. Bitch, I love it. And look, 1276 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 1: if you want to buy some Tabasco flavored cheese, it's run. 1277 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 1: Don't walk five seconds, get the to a funnery, to 1278 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 1: the Tabasco flavored cheese. It brush me star bits one minute. Yes, yes, 1279 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 1: God is love. I want to try that. I want delicious, delicious, 1280 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 1: you must you love it. I think a bit of 1281 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 1: marijuana with a little bit the brid of filter of crackers, bitch, 1282 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 1: everyone love They're the brit of filter crackers, the britt 1283 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 1: of filter of crack. Alright, so now it's Mike Mike 1284 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 1: Kelton and he's gonna do yes honey, and this is 1285 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: you say I want to I want to let you 1286 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,480 Speaker 1: everyone know listening. I haven't decided what this is going 1287 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 1: to be until literally he says so, and this is 1288 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 1: this is a for real thing. I literally haven't decided. 1289 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 1: Some kid, Um, yes, yes, yeah, I had to take 1290 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 1: a break to work on the show, but I'm coming. 1291 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 1: She's on some Kid with the amazing former best of 1292 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 1: our show, mon Monique. Here we go. Now this is 1293 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 1: Mike Helton's yes honey, and this time starts now yes, 1294 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: I do. You want to know who's the best? Maggie 1295 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 1: Rogers is the best. And if you don't know who 1296 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 1: she is, now you know. Maggie Rodgers is one of 1297 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 1: the best musicians I've ever heard in my entire life. 1298 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,920 Speaker 1: Started with a YouTube video of her doing a master 1299 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 1: class at NYU with Farrell or with Farrell and he's like, 1300 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 1: oh my, got to hear this song about Alaska, and 1301 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm living for it. She's very, very spiritual. 1302 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. I saw her two weeks ago 1303 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 1: or a month ago in Brooklyn and she started out 1304 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 1: the concert by saying, I just wanted to know. This 1305 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 1: is a safe space for everyone, and we welcome everyone. 1306 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,600 Speaker 1: If you're a refugee, if you're gay, if you're whatever, 1307 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 1: I don't give a fucking I love you and I 1308 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 1: love that. Also, she's very, very spiritual, and I feel 1309 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 1: like I've known her in the past life, which is 1310 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,000 Speaker 1: a very fur real thing, and she talks about that stuff. Also, 1311 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 1: she has a new album coming out, because there's four 1312 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 1: songs that she already has, like Alaska and a couple 1313 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 1: other ones are very good energy and you should have 1314 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 1: sex to one of those songs. But here's the thing. 1315 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:33,360 Speaker 1: Next albums Dancy and even gay. Maggie Rodgers. Yes, honey, 1316 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Matthew Rogers. I've never heard of her, really, 1317 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 1: and I say something her and I say something, this 1318 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,280 Speaker 1: is really beautiful because you know what just happened. What 1319 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 1: my dog named Maggie just passed away. Mackie Rodgers. That 1320 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 1: was my wait her name was Rogers. She was ten 1321 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 1: years old, gold. She was the sweetest dog that lived 1322 01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 1: in the world. And I've never heard of this person, 1323 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 1: Maggie Rodgers, until you said that. And I do believe 1324 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 1: that this part of part of Maggie Rodgers the Dog's 1325 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 1: Cosmic Moment because I was in my head I was 1326 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:14,440 Speaker 1: gonna do Maggie Rodgers or Sells, Sir, and I decided 1327 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 1: last minute to do Maggie Rodgers. And you know what 1328 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 1: that is, Mike, That's gone. That's God, That's God. You 1329 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:29,120 Speaker 1: know what that's gone, That's gone. Everything it is God, God. 1330 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Everything comes from God. God, amazing. God is an amazing think. 1331 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 1: God is an amazing figure. And it is only God. 1332 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,200 Speaker 1: I will father. Here you go spiritual, Well, this has 1333 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:49,439 Speaker 1: been a spiritual episode of Mike Kelton on I Don't 1334 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 1: Think so well on Law riskAs and the second time 1335 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 1: do you want to hear that thing you were going 1336 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 1: to say before at the beginning of the podcast you 1337 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,640 Speaker 1: were like, I'm gonna spill some tea on what Mike 1338 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:02,919 Speaker 1: Calton said to me. Oh, yes, okay, you gotta share. 1339 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 1: So I was hosting a show at you CB with Brookshields, 1340 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,240 Speaker 1: which went great. Did you stay and watch it? Didn't 1341 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 1: have to go home? Tie? Tie t tired? Um? So 1342 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 1: it went great. But I was walking backstage and I said, 1343 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,320 Speaker 1: how was yes, honey, because it had up yeah, yeah, 1344 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 1: And he said, you know, I went through some strife 1345 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:23,960 Speaker 1: when I was naming the show because I thought it 1346 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 1: was too similar to I don't think so, yes, honey, anyway, 1347 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 1: thank god. And he didn't even care. He thought, he thought, 1348 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,599 Speaker 1: will it he thought, will it affect them? And they thought, 1349 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't give a funk. I'm Mike Calton. 1350 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:41,080 Speaker 1: I dwarf these hopes. He dwarfs these hopes, stunts on 1351 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 1: them by naming his show slightly adjacent to other shows, 1352 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,479 Speaker 1: but he surpasses them. That's Mike Calton for you. Wow, 1353 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,960 Speaker 1: I love you a lot, and I'm really happy that 1354 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,400 Speaker 1: you came and did this. Thank you. This is really fun. 1355 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,720 Speaker 1: Maybe we do again, Maybe we do again on the 1356 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 1: next big project. In fact, you know, it will be 1357 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,000 Speaker 1: fun if you came with one of the queens next time, 1358 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,639 Speaker 1: because you know I've been I've been wanting to ask 1359 01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 1: Britta to come on. Oh she'd be great. Oh my god, 1360 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 1: that would be fun. Honestly, would be a joy. You 1361 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:18,800 Speaker 1: know Christie Chello, I love she was so obsessed with 1362 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,639 Speaker 1: her and we did a show with her that. Christie 1363 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,600 Speaker 1: was also one that she had Britta on her podcast 1364 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 1: and they got along like famous old queens. Well, Bretta 1365 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:31,920 Speaker 1: is such a star and also her voice. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1366 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 1: so yeah, well we'll come back with Bretta. Honestly, I 1367 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 1: love that and this is an amazing person. And I'm 1368 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,599 Speaker 1: also joined right here with with I an amazing person. 1369 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:46,599 Speaker 1: And he is my sister. This is my rock. And 1370 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 1: we have been we have been crying, many tears. We 1371 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:55,920 Speaker 1: have been crying. But that's okay. We've been. We've been, 1372 01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 1: we've been signing, we've been live Okay, we've been crying, 1373 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 1: we've been di we've been sing, We've been okay. Cut 1374 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,639 Speaker 1: it off. When he thinks because he went to musical 1375 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:39,280 Speaker 1: theater school, he's better than us, kill him. Bow No, 1376 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:46,639 Speaker 1: not my deck dog. 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