WEBVTT - “I CUT OFF MY BEST FRIEND” 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:01.280 Hello, Hey, what's up? 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:02.719 Hey? Is this the GAK? 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:04.960 This is the GEK? Who is this? 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:06.360 This is Spencer? How's it going? 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:07.440 It's going all right? 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:07.600 Man? 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:08.799 What's going on with you? Spencer? 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.760 Nothing? I'm technically at work right now. I got about 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:14.280 nineteen minutes left on my shift. 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:16.560 You got nineteen minutes left on your shift? 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:22.480 Exactlytes eighteen minutes now, actually just turned to three forty two. 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:24.680 What do you think should we run out the clock? 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:27.760 I think we should. I think that's a wonderful way 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:28.800 to spend my time. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:31.320 All right, let's do it. Let's run out the clock. Waits, 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:32.400 what job do you have? 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.239 So? I mean, I guess my job. It's like the 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.519 title makes my job sound kind of fake. You know 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.200 you ever have those kinds of jobs? 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:43.120 Sure? 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:48.320 Yeah, my title is advancement assistant. I work at a 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:53.559 nonprofit and I basically helped them fundraise and organize volunteer 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:55.880 events and do some marketing for them. 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.760 So what are you doing? What are you supposed to 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:00.600 be doing for the next eighteen minutes? 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:07.280 Working on email campaigns? But technically I am done with that, so, 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.880 you know, figured i'd call you and see what you're 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:11.200 up to. 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:13.200 Wait, So why can't you just go home? 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:16.480 Oh? I am home. I work from home. 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:21.959 Oh okay, all right, so you like your fire, so 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.240 you don't really have to do anything for the next 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:31.480 seventeen minutes. No, No, all right, pretty good. Well especially, 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:33.120 let me ask you this, is there anything in particular 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:34.360 you called in to want to talk about? 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.160 Yeah, I've been trying to call in for a couple 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:42.560 of months now. Uh. Last year I cut off or 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.400 two years ago, I completely cut off someone who was 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:49.640 my best friend. And I knew all my friends supported 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.240 me in doing that because I'm in a big like 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.080 friend group with him. But but now I feel like 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.360 they kind of resent me for it because they still 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:59.000 talk to him and like him, and we're on like 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:00.880 a big group chat still, but it's just me and him. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:06.120 They don't like each other, you know. Does that make sense? 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.240 Yeah? Well, I mean what happened? Why don't you guys 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.520 like each other? Uh? 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.440 Well, it was me that cut him off first because 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:17.280 he was talking a bunch of crap about my girlfriend 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:21.760 now fiance, and then yeah, it got to be a 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.920 little too much, so kind of told him I didn't 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:29.400 want to talk to him anymore. And you know, he 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.480 he tried to apologize to me. I didn't really let 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.160 him let him do it because it was kind of 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.960 like a recurring thing. He started doing it. I told 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.200 him to stop because he started doing it in sort 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.200 of like a joking manner, but you know, it's not 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.480 really something you joke about. He was like calling her 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:48.760 her ugly and shit, and I'm like, all right, like like, 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:52.880 don't do that. That's not respectful, Like you know, you 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.520 shouldn't be doing that, and and you know, and he 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.400 and he kept doing that, and if you can't, I 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.240 don't want to be friends with someone that I have 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.280 to tell them, like something as simple as like, you know, 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:04.840 don't talk shit about my girlfriend. 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:11.240 You know, did your did your girlfriend ever know that 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.680 this guy was talking about her? Uh No? 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:18.480 I never told her and she still doesn't know. Uh 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.840 I like she knows. She's not dumb, because like I 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.240 cut off one of my best friends that she knew, 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.480 and now we're not talking and I'm not telling her why. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.760 She can kind of put two and two together and 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.919 be like, oh, yeah, he definitely said something about me, 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:35.600 But I don't really want to because he's talking like 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.840 about her looks, So I don't want to tell her 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:42.200 that and then have her be all like self conscious 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.520 and stuff like that. So I guess that's my way 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:48.040 of justifying not telling her, even though I know deep 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:49.200 down I should tell her. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.480 Oh, I don't know. I don't think you. I don't 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:53.200 know if you should tell her. I don't know if 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:58.200 like yea, you ever heard that phrase that other people's 0:03:58.240 --> 0:03:59.840 opinions of you is none of your business. 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.120 That's true, and this is this is someone that I 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:04.560 wouldn't take advice from. 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.720 So you yeah, no, I don't think you need to. 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:10.400 I don't think you need to tell her that she 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.680 he was talking about her. But I think it's it's 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.280 totally justified to be like, Yo, I don't want to 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:16.960 hang out with this guy, but your problem is that 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.760 everybody else is still hanging out with this guy. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.520 Yeah. They they still like him and they're still you know, 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:26.880 friends with him, and I'm not like, and I'm not 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.960 gonna I'm not gonna blame him for that, Like they 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.480 didn't do anything to them. But I feel like now 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.760 that I don't like him and I don't really hang 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:36.280 out with him, I don't really want to hang out 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.600 with him, and they still do, it kind of just 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:43.160 puts an in their perspective, probably puts like an unnecessary 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:44.200 rift in the friend group. 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.320 Let me ask you that, did you ever like so 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:51.280 and I'm sorry maybe you said this orady, but when 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:55.440 he was talking about your girlfriend, and did you tell him, like, yo, 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.320 stop doing that and he just he just did did 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.479 not respond at all. Yeah, he just completely. 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.839 Fucking I told him. I'm like, I told him, like, 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.040 nobody thinks that's funny except for you, because nobody was 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.000 laughing at it. So I was like, nobody thinks that's 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.280 funny except for you. Stop. He did it like a 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:13.800 couple more times after that, and then it was all 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.320 because of a football game too man like his football, 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.360 like the team that he was a really big fan 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:22.960 of lost the game. And then he like, and I'll 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.480 admit I was chirping him a little bit, you know, 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.200 I was trying to I was talking a little bit 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.400 of shit, but nothing too personal. And then he just 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:33.400 goes and says another thing about about my fiance and 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.479 that was like my breaking point with him. So like 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.080 it was known that he did it and that I 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.800 wasn't a fan of it, and that I've told him 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.880 to stop multiple times. And then after he did it 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:44.359 that time, I was like, all right, I don't, like, 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:48.000 don't even bother apologizing because I don't because like, you 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.599 obviously don't mean it because I've I've told you to 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:55.320 stop this stuff in the past, and you haven't. So yeah, 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:56.880 it's a tough situation. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.760 And how many how many people are in the group? 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.599 I would say, like ten to twelve? 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:10.160 Whoa brod? Having twelve friends is crazy? 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.080 I know, right, it's pretty fun. 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:19.560 Technically eleven, Well, listen, twelve, I mean twelve, So that's 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.240 a big enough group, right that you don't have to 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:24.960 First of all, that's a big enough group that it 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.360 can split off into several different subgroups. 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:32.080 And I mean twelve is big enough that you don't 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:36.080 have to really necessarily interact with or be around this 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:37.160 guy if you don't want to. 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.760 Yeah, exactly, And that's what it's been like. He doesn't. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:42.400 We don't even live in the same state because we 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.360 all met in college and then we all graduated and 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:49.000 I'm living in Indiana. He's off in Illinois, so I 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.520 haven't seen him in like a good year. So like, 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.480 whenever we get together as a big group, he's there 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.080 and like, it's fine, And I told him like I 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.000 can be friendly with you, I just don't want to 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:03.080 be your friend. It's like when we're there, there's like tension. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.240 And then whenever I'm hanging out with the people from 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.279 the group that still live in Indiana and ever, like 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.600 whenever he comes up, I can tell that there's like 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:13.840 that they don't really want to bring him up, even 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:15.680 though like I don't care if they bring him up, 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.720 but like I just feel like they kind of resent 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:23.559 me for for you know, holding such a grudge against 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:24.320 him for so long. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.360 Well, where's this tension coming from? Like what's so like 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.840 tension is when like there's something you know supposed to happen, 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.880 but what's supposed to happen, there's no tension. There's really 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.480 no attension here because it's like you don't like and 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.880 it is there any way, shape or form in which 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:46.120 you are feeding into tension. I mean it's pretty cut 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.520 and dry. It's like, look, I don't you know what 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:50.560 is there to be they don't want to be around 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.440 this guy. I haven't. 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:54.760 I never really thought of it that way. I mean, 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.320 it is kind of just I guess I guess I 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.400 could just be making most of it up in my 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.600 in my head. See, this is why I need to 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:08.040 because I like, I've talked to him about it before 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:13.400 and we've come to like an understanding obviously, But I 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.760 don't know. I guess I just kind of feel like 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.360 there's something left to be said, and I feel like 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.400 that might be on more on my end than everybody 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:22.440 else's end. 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.960 What's the what is there left to be said? You know? 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:27.880 I mean you guys, you said you came to an 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.760 understanding with this guy. What does that look like? 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:36.679 Yeah, the understanding that the understanding we came to. Yeah, uh, 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.679 just that that we're not friends, but when we're when 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:41.600 we're together with our big group, like we can we 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.560 can be friends or we can be friendly. I guess 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.120 the thing that's I'm not gonna lie, the thing that's 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.320 kind of eating me up inside of that I should 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:50.760 just say, punch this guy in the face when he 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.880 first did it, and then none of this would have happened. 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.080 We could have kind of moved past it. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.800 Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you you you believe 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:02.800 that if you punch You believe that if you punched 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.880 this guy in the face, things would actually be better 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:07.000 and you guys could be friends. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:16.599 Now I feel like you know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Uh. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.120 You know. See, when you put it that way, it 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.200 really doesn't sound that good. 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.280 No, it doesn't make any sense at all, unless if 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:28.600 that's what you believe, unless if you if you genuinely 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:32.000 believe that if this guy, let like, all right, let's 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.520 say that this guy came to you. I mean, let's 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.280 say this guy came to you and he was like, listen, man, 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.560 I'm sorry, and you could punch me in the face 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.600 if you want. And then you punched them in the face, 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.040 would you? Could you guys be friends now. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:47.640 Or or no? Maybe? See here's the sorry my water 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.080 botol just sell. But here's the thing. So this guy 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.480 actually had beef with another guy in the group that 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.120 the same year, like two years ago, and he punched 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.800 this guy. He punched the guy that I have beef 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.600 with in the face, and then they didn't talk for 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.720 like a couple of months, and then they were all 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.440 okay after that. I feel like if I had gotten 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:12.040 that aggression out when he first did it one, I 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.280 don't think he would have done it again afterwards, because 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.040 I think the problem is that he just kept on 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.720 doing it, you know, and like even though I would 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:20.960 tell him to stop. I feel like if I just 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:25.160 showed that aggression right away, like, you know, don't like, 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.880 don't talk shit about my girlfriend. I'm gonna punch you 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.840 in the face, then it would have squashed the beef 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:33.439 a lot earlier, and it would have gotten as bad 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.520 as it did. Hmm. 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:43.640 Okay, yeah, and well okay, so how about this, So 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.280 why don't you go up to him and be like, hey, listen, 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:50.760 we gotta fight. Yeah, sounds like you want to sounds 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:51.840 like you want to fight this guy. 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.000 I don't want to fight him because he's a lot 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:55.600 bigger than me. 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.600 Maybe maybe, yeah, maybe maybe I just kind of let 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:10.120 this guy. You just gotta let this guy maug you. 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.520 Yesh, I just let him, Just let him go after me. 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.760 I don't know, See, I don't know. It's just like 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.840 I don't know. I guess I just kind of feel 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.760 bad that I brought this tension into the friend group 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.240 and kind of kept it around myself instead of just 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.600 squashing it right away. It took me a while to 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.320 talk to him. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.120 Well, what would that look I mean, when is the tension? 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:37.599 What would that look like? If you squashed the tension even. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:42.120 We would like we would be like we would be 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:43.640 friends with him, like we used to talk all the time. 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.200 I haven't talked to him in like two years. Other 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:50.440 than like we would talk like and I guess our 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.400 group chat would be a little bit more active. After 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.240 all that happened, our group chat kind of died out 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.760 and it's been kind of on it's been kind of 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:03.480 inactive ever since. You know, m. 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:10.760 Yeah, well, I mean, well, okay, so now the group 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.599 chat has to factor. Wait do you haven't talked to 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.920 this guy in two years? 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.680 Yeah? I like I've talked to him when we have 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:20.520 like our like when we all meet back up as 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.199 a group, But other than that, not I like, Okay, 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.640 I talked to him last year about the issues, and 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.240 that's why, like it's I said, like, it took me 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.440 a long time to talk to him about it, so 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:35.240 like I don't like I so it took me like 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.720 a year to talk to him about it. But like, 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.679 other than that, I've only talked to him when we're 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:41.760 in a group, you know. 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.680 Hm hmm, Yeah, I don't know. I guess you could 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:48.680 reach back out to him and be like, hey, man, 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:51.000 I think we have to You can either reach back 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:52.640 out to him and be like, hey, listen, let's let's 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.160 squash this beef. Like, are you ready to like apologize 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.960 to me? Because this is fucking us up? You know, 0:12:59.080 --> 0:12:59.959 I mean you can't, you can. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.760 Like I don't. The thing is, he's got like the 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.760 thing that I want to see. Like the reason I 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.640 don't want to squash it is because and this is 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.480 gonna sound kind of stupid, but I like, he hasn't 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.760 really changed as a person, and I knew that if 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.160 like I know that if he had the opportunity to 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.440 do it again, he would, like he's still kind of 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.280 the same person, and I would love to squash be 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:21.720 with him. I just want to see him kind of 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.560 change as a person and mature a little bit. And 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.120 like I again, I just haven't. I haven't really seen 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.200 that yet. Like he's still kind of on the same bullshit. 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.920 Yeah, I mean he's he's he's probably not going to 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:33.480 do that if he hasn't already. 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:38.040 Yeah, I mean we're all twenty four, so our brains 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.400 haven't fully developed yet, So there's still hope. Like and 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.160 when I told him, like when I was talking to 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:43.960 him about it last yek, I told him, I was like, dude, 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:45.640 like I like I don't want to be your friend, 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.240 like you're kind of just like I don't want to 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.599 be your friend right now, you're still just kind of 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:57.520 the same person. Yeah, but is this. 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.720 Really causing that much of a difficulty in the friends, 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:00.760 because why don't you just. 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:07.560 Like, after after talking to you and kind of getting 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:11.600 it all out there, it does really seem more like 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.520 I'm making up the tension in my own head and 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.199 if I just kind of let that go, then it 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.320 will go away itself too. So I'm thankful for that 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:20.920 because I haven't really because this is why I've been 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:22.600 calling you, because I haven't really talked to a non 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.680 biased third party about it, because everyone else that talked 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.240 to you about it, like knows people in the group, 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:28.400 you know, I. 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:32.160 Mean, what does everyone else say, Well, they'll they'll take. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.040 My side because it's obvious, like yeah, you shouldn't have 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.160 been talking about your girlfriend, right. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:41.160 But yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know sides. Here's the thing. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.520 Taking sides is about, like ego and pride. You know, 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.440 it doesn't fucking do anything who won, who's right and 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.720 who's wrong. This is fucking doing it. This is a 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:54.400 logistical issue. This isn't about sides, you know, because listen, 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:58.200 you're right, he's wrong, he's right, you're wrong. Who gives 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.920 a fucking shit? You know what matters is logistically, how 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:06.920 do we move forward in this situation? That's what matters, right. 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:08.440 Yeah, So that's that's matter. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:12.720 That's the question to be solved because because oh, you're right, 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.520 you know, who give? So what what do you do 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.080 with that? Where do you where you cash that those 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:18.680 tokens in? 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:19.160 You know? 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.280 Yeah, the answer is like, well, how do you move 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.040 forward in the situation? The answer is, I don't know. 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.000 It depends on everyone and how your spirit feels and whatnot. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.720 But I'm a big fan of the path at least resistance. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.680 Yeah, I feel like I need I gotta like stop 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:37.640 dwelling on it and just kind of just kind of 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:41.400 move forward and be like, uh, all right, what happened? 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.920 Did happen? And it sucks, but we have come to 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:45.840 our understanding and we just kind of got to move 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:46.440 on from there. 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.080 You have three more minutes left to work, right, I. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:53.760 Do have three more minutes left of work? 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:58.560 Is anyone coming for you? How's it? Where you go ahead? 0:15:58.600 --> 0:15:59.000 I'll leave? 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:01.560 Oh no, no, I'm just gonna ask you how your 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.520 day was going. I feel like I feel like we're 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:08.800 going to a good uh good conclusion too to my 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.960 to my problem. I've I've found clarity, You've helped me, 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:13.680 You've helped me find myself. 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.680 Okay, good, good, I'll take that. I'll take that to 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:17.040 the bank. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:18.800 Yeah. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:26.880 How's my day going? My day's going? Okay, Yeah, that's it. 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:28.360 I don't know if I have anything else. I feel 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:29.560 like we have to. I feel like I want to. 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:31.280 I want to. I want to go two more minutes 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:32.600 with you because I want to. I said I was 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.200 going to run out this clock, and now I want to. 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.760 We got to Philly. We gotta fully do it. 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:40.840 Yeah, yeah, we we really do. 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.080 How do you want to spend these last two minutes? 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:46.760 I kind of want to get to know you on 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:48.520 a on a bit of a deeper level. I've been 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.360 listening to your podcast for so long and and like 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.080 I feel like I have you you figured out pretty well. 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.960 Like you're a social person, you like activities. But what 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.800 what else? I've been watching a lot of decks there recently, 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:04.200 so I'm I'm big into finding that that dark side 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:04.679 of people. 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:11.320 Oh god, what else? I let's see what can I 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.879 tell you about my dark side in the next two minutes. 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:23.879 One minute now, okay, one minute? Uh, I don't know. 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.560 I get depressed sometimes, but everyone knows that. 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:30.800 Yeah. 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:36.360 Nothing exciting nothing, I'm sorry exciting life. 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:37.560 No no, no, no good? 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:42.280 But uh uh is dexter good? Should I watch it? 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.280 I think you'd like it a lot. I'm on the 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.919 fourth season right now, which is apparently the best season, 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.080 and so far so good, man, very very good. I'm 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.840 on like the seventh episode, Ship's Going Down. I feel 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.440 like you'd like it. We watch watch a couple of 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.280 episodes after you're after you're done with the stream, and 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:00.800 and tell me how you like it. 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:03.160 What's your name again? 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:05.120 Spencer? 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:06.040 Spencer? 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:08.959 S p E N s E R? 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.640 What what else was it supposed to? Oh? 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:11.960 Ship? 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:13.760 Really? Okay? I was when I thought of you, is like, 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:15.280 I was like, what the fuck else are you supposed 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.080 to spell Spencer with? But there's no there's an S 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:19.119 instead of a C. 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:25.320 Yeah yeah, how about that? Throw a book or a 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:26.639 series of books? 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:29.840 All right, Spencer, let's end this phone call. 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.640 All right? You have a wonderful Is. 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:34.880 There anything else you want to say to the people 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:35.960 of the computer before we go. 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:42.200 Acknowledge your tribal chief. 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:47.840 Acknowledge your tribal chief? Yes, what does that mean? 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.120 It's it's a w W reference, the only thing good 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.040 thing to say. It was kind of dumb. I'm sorry. 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.720 It wasn't dumb. It's just I don't know what it means. 0:18:58.000 --> 0:18:58.920 That doesn't that's not the same. 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:07.120 No, it's it's it's a lot, a lot to explain. 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:11.480 Okay, all right, I'll see you later, see you, Gek, 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.719 bye bye. All right, we're gonna google this. We're now. 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.240 I'm not letting this get away from us. Okay, acknowledge 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:25.000 it's your tribal chief. This is a w W E thing. 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.600 The phrase acknowledge your tribal chief. It's a popular catchphrase 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:35.480 used by Roman Raids, a professional wrestler who identifies as 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:38.560 the tribal chief. What does it mean? 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:41.080 Uh? 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:45.440 Okay. I think it's like a cartman respect my authority thing. 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:51.600