1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's up? 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 2: Hey? Is this the GAK? 3 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: This is the GEK? Who is this? 4 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: This is Spencer? How's it going? 5 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: It's going all right? 6 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: Man? 7 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: What's going on with you? Spencer? 8 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: Nothing? I'm technically at work right now. I got about 9 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: nineteen minutes left on my shift. 10 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: You got nineteen minutes left on your shift? 11 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: Exactlytes eighteen minutes now, actually just turned to three forty two. 12 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: What do you think should we run out the clock? 13 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: I think we should. I think that's a wonderful way 14 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: to spend my time. 15 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. Let's run out the clock. Waits, 16 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: what job do you have? 17 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: So? I mean, I guess my job. It's like the 18 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: title makes my job sound kind of fake. You know 19 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: you ever have those kinds of jobs? 20 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: Sure? 21 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, my title is advancement assistant. I work at a 22 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: nonprofit and I basically helped them fundraise and organize volunteer 23 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: events and do some marketing for them. 24 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: So what are you doing? What are you supposed to 25 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: be doing for the next eighteen minutes? 26 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: Working on email campaigns? But technically I am done with that, so, 27 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: you know, figured i'd call you and see what you're 28 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: up to. 29 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: Wait, So why can't you just go home? 30 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: Oh? I am home. I work from home. 31 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, so you like your fire, so 32 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: you don't really have to do anything for the next 33 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: seventeen minutes. No, No, all right, pretty good. Well especially, 34 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, is there anything in particular 35 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: you called in to want to talk about? 36 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been trying to call in for a couple 37 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: of months now. Uh. Last year I cut off or 38 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: two years ago, I completely cut off someone who was 39 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: my best friend. And I knew all my friends supported 40 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: me in doing that because I'm in a big like 41 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: friend group with him. But but now I feel like 42 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: they kind of resent me for it because they still 43 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: talk to him and like him, and we're on like 44 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: a big group chat still, but it's just me and him. 45 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: They don't like each other, you know. Does that make sense? 46 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I mean what happened? Why don't you guys 47 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: like each other? Uh? 48 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: Well, it was me that cut him off first because 49 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: he was talking a bunch of crap about my girlfriend 50 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: now fiance, and then yeah, it got to be a 51 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: little too much, so kind of told him I didn't 52 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: want to talk to him anymore. And you know, he 53 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: he tried to apologize to me. I didn't really let 54 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: him let him do it because it was kind of 55 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: like a recurring thing. He started doing it. I told 56 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: him to stop because he started doing it in sort 57 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: of like a joking manner, but you know, it's not 58 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: really something you joke about. He was like calling her 59 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: her ugly and shit, and I'm like, all right, like like, 60 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: don't do that. That's not respectful, Like you know, you 61 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: shouldn't be doing that, and and you know, and he 62 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: and he kept doing that, and if you can't, I 63 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: don't want to be friends with someone that I have 64 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: to tell them, like something as simple as like, you know, 65 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: don't talk shit about my girlfriend. 66 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: You know, did your did your girlfriend ever know that 67 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: this guy was talking about her? Uh No? 68 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: I never told her and she still doesn't know. Uh 69 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: I like she knows. She's not dumb, because like I 70 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: cut off one of my best friends that she knew, 71 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: and now we're not talking and I'm not telling her why. 72 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: She can kind of put two and two together and 73 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: be like, oh, yeah, he definitely said something about me, 74 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: But I don't really want to because he's talking like 75 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: about her looks, So I don't want to tell her 76 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: that and then have her be all like self conscious 77 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So I guess that's my way 78 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: of justifying not telling her, even though I know deep 79 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: down I should tell her. 80 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. I don't think you. I don't 81 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: know if you should tell her. I don't know if 82 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: like yea, you ever heard that phrase that other people's 83 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: opinions of you is none of your business. 84 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: That's true, and this is this is someone that I 85 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: wouldn't take advice from. 86 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: So you yeah, no, I don't think you need to. 87 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't think you need to tell her that she 88 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: he was talking about her. But I think it's it's 89 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: totally justified to be like, Yo, I don't want to 90 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: hang out with this guy, but your problem is that 91 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: everybody else is still hanging out with this guy. 92 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. They they still like him and they're still you know, 93 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: friends with him, and I'm not like, and I'm not 94 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: gonna I'm not gonna blame him for that, Like they 95 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: didn't do anything to them. But I feel like now 96 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: that I don't like him and I don't really hang 97 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: out with him, I don't really want to hang out 98 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: with him, and they still do, it kind of just 99 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: puts an in their perspective, probably puts like an unnecessary 100 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: rift in the friend group. 101 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: Let me ask you that, did you ever like so 102 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry maybe you said this orady, but when 103 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: he was talking about your girlfriend, and did you tell him, like, yo, 104 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: stop doing that and he just he just did did 105 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: not respond at all. Yeah, he just completely. 106 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: Fucking I told him. I'm like, I told him, like, 107 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: nobody thinks that's funny except for you, because nobody was 108 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: laughing at it. So I was like, nobody thinks that's 109 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: funny except for you. Stop. He did it like a 110 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: couple more times after that, and then it was all 111 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: because of a football game too man like his football, 112 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: like the team that he was a really big fan 113 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: of lost the game. And then he like, and I'll 114 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: admit I was chirping him a little bit, you know, 115 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: I was trying to I was talking a little bit 116 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: of shit, but nothing too personal. And then he just 117 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: goes and says another thing about about my fiance and 118 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 2: that was like my breaking point with him. So like 119 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: it was known that he did it and that I 120 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: wasn't a fan of it, and that I've told him 121 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: to stop multiple times. And then after he did it 122 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 2: that time, I was like, all right, I don't, like, 123 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: don't even bother apologizing because I don't because like, you 124 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: obviously don't mean it because I've I've told you to 125 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: stop this stuff in the past, and you haven't. So yeah, 126 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: it's a tough situation. 127 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: And how many how many people are in the group? 128 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: I would say, like ten to twelve? 129 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: Whoa brod? Having twelve friends is crazy? 130 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: I know, right, it's pretty fun. 131 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: Technically eleven, Well, listen, twelve, I mean twelve, So that's 132 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: a big enough group, right that you don't have to 133 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: First of all, that's a big enough group that it 134 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 3: can split off into several different subgroups. 135 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: And I mean twelve is big enough that you don't 136 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: have to really necessarily interact with or be around this 137 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: guy if you don't want to. 138 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And that's what it's been like. He doesn't. 139 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: We don't even live in the same state because we 140 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: all met in college and then we all graduated and 141 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: I'm living in Indiana. He's off in Illinois, so I 142 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: haven't seen him in like a good year. So like, 143 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: whenever we get together as a big group, he's there 144 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: and like, it's fine, And I told him like I 145 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: can be friendly with you, I just don't want to 146 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: be your friend. It's like when we're there, there's like tension. 147 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: And then whenever I'm hanging out with the people from 148 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: the group that still live in Indiana and ever, like 149 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: whenever he comes up, I can tell that there's like 150 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: that they don't really want to bring him up, even 151 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: though like I don't care if they bring him up, 152 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: but like I just feel like they kind of resent 153 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,559 Speaker 2: me for for you know, holding such a grudge against 154 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: him for so long. 155 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: Well, where's this tension coming from? Like what's so like 156 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: tension is when like there's something you know supposed to happen, 157 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: but what's supposed to happen, there's no tension. There's really 158 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: no attension here because it's like you don't like and 159 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: it is there any way, shape or form in which 160 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: you are feeding into tension. I mean it's pretty cut 161 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: and dry. It's like, look, I don't you know what 162 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: is there to be they don't want to be around 163 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: this guy. I haven't. 164 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: I never really thought of it that way. I mean, 165 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: it is kind of just I guess I guess I 166 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: could just be making most of it up in my 167 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: in my head. See, this is why I need to 168 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: because I like, I've talked to him about it before 169 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: and we've come to like an understanding obviously, But I 170 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: don't know. I guess I just kind of feel like 171 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: there's something left to be said, and I feel like 172 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: that might be on more on my end than everybody 173 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: else's end. 174 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: What's the what is there left to be said? You know? 175 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: I mean you guys, you said you came to an 176 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: understanding with this guy. What does that look like? 177 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, the understanding that the understanding we came to. Yeah, uh, 178 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: just that that we're not friends, but when we're when 179 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: we're together with our big group, like we can we 180 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: can be friends or we can be friendly. I guess 181 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: the thing that's I'm not gonna lie, the thing that's 182 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: kind of eating me up inside of that I should 183 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: just say, punch this guy in the face when he 184 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: first did it, and then none of this would have happened. 185 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: We could have kind of moved past it. 186 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you you you believe 187 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: that if you punch You believe that if you punched 188 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: this guy in the face, things would actually be better 189 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: and you guys could be friends. 190 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 2: Now I feel like you know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Uh. 191 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: You know. See, when you put it that way, it 192 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: really doesn't sound that good. 193 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: No, it doesn't make any sense at all, unless if 194 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: that's what you believe, unless if you if you genuinely 195 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: believe that if this guy, let like, all right, let's 196 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: say that this guy came to you. I mean, let's 197 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: say this guy came to you and he was like, listen, man, 198 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and you could punch me in the face 199 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: if you want. And then you punched them in the face, 200 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: would you? Could you guys be friends now. 201 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: Or or no? Maybe? See here's the sorry my water 202 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: botol just sell. But here's the thing. So this guy 203 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: actually had beef with another guy in the group that 204 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: the same year, like two years ago, and he punched 205 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: this guy. He punched the guy that I have beef 206 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: with in the face, and then they didn't talk for 207 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: like a couple of months, and then they were all 208 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: okay after that. I feel like if I had gotten 209 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: that aggression out when he first did it one, I 210 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: don't think he would have done it again afterwards, because 211 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: I think the problem is that he just kept on 212 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: doing it, you know, and like even though I would 213 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: tell him to stop. I feel like if I just 214 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: showed that aggression right away, like, you know, don't like, 215 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: don't talk shit about my girlfriend. I'm gonna punch you 216 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: in the face, then it would have squashed the beef 217 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 2: a lot earlier, and it would have gotten as bad 218 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: as it did. Hmm. 219 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and well okay, so how about this, So 220 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: why don't you go up to him and be like, hey, listen, 221 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: we gotta fight. Yeah, sounds like you want to sounds 222 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: like you want to fight this guy. 223 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to fight him because he's a lot 224 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: bigger than me. 225 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, yeah, maybe maybe I just kind of let 226 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: this guy. You just gotta let this guy maug you. 227 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: Yesh, I just let him, Just let him go after me. 228 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, See, I don't know. It's just like 229 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess I just kind of feel 230 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: bad that I brought this tension into the friend group 231 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: and kind of kept it around myself instead of just 232 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: squashing it right away. It took me a while to 233 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: talk to him. 234 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: Well, what would that look I mean, when is the tension? 235 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 1: What would that look like? If you squashed the tension even. 236 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: We would like we would be like we would be 237 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: friends with him, like we used to talk all the time. 238 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: I haven't talked to him in like two years. Other 239 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: than like we would talk like and I guess our 240 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: group chat would be a little bit more active. After 241 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: all that happened, our group chat kind of died out 242 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: and it's been kind of on it's been kind of 243 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: inactive ever since. You know, m. 244 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, well, okay, so now the group 245 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 1: chat has to factor. Wait do you haven't talked to 246 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: this guy in two years? 247 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? I like I've talked to him when we have 248 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: like our like when we all meet back up as 249 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 2: a group, But other than that, not I like, Okay, 250 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: I talked to him last year about the issues, and 251 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: that's why, like it's I said, like, it took me 252 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: a long time to talk to him about it, so 253 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: like I don't like I so it took me like 254 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: a year to talk to him about it. But like, 255 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: other than that, I've only talked to him when we're 256 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: in a group, you know. 257 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: Hm hmm, Yeah, I don't know. I guess you could 258 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: reach back out to him and be like, hey, man, 259 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: I think we have to You can either reach back 260 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: out to him and be like, hey, listen, let's let's 261 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: squash this beef. Like, are you ready to like apologize 262 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: to me? Because this is fucking us up? You know, 263 00:12:59,080 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: I mean you can't, you can. 264 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: Like I don't. The thing is, he's got like the 265 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: thing that I want to see. Like the reason I 266 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: don't want to squash it is because and this is 267 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: gonna sound kind of stupid, but I like, he hasn't 268 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: really changed as a person, and I knew that if 269 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: like I know that if he had the opportunity to 270 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: do it again, he would, like he's still kind of 271 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: the same person, and I would love to squash be 272 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: with him. I just want to see him kind of 273 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: change as a person and mature a little bit. And 274 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: like I again, I just haven't. I haven't really seen 275 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: that yet. Like he's still kind of on the same bullshit. 276 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's he's he's probably not going to 277 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: do that if he hasn't already. 278 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're all twenty four, so our brains 279 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: haven't fully developed yet, So there's still hope. Like and 280 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: when I told him, like when I was talking to 281 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: him about it last yek, I told him, I was like, dude, 282 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: like I like I don't want to be your friend, 283 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: like you're kind of just like I don't want to 284 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 2: be your friend right now, you're still just kind of 285 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: the same person. Yeah, but is this. 286 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: Really causing that much of a difficulty in the friends, 287 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: because why don't you just. 288 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: Like, after after talking to you and kind of getting 289 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: it all out there, it does really seem more like 290 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: I'm making up the tension in my own head and 291 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 2: if I just kind of let that go, then it 292 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: will go away itself too. So I'm thankful for that 293 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: because I haven't really because this is why I've been 294 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: calling you, because I haven't really talked to a non 295 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: biased third party about it, because everyone else that talked 296 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: to you about it, like knows people in the group, 297 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: you know, I. 298 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: Mean, what does everyone else say, Well, they'll they'll take. 299 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: My side because it's obvious, like yeah, you shouldn't have 300 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: been talking about your girlfriend, right. 301 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know sides. Here's the thing. 302 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: Taking sides is about, like ego and pride. You know, 303 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't fucking do anything who won, who's right and 304 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: who's wrong. This is fucking doing it. This is a 305 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: logistical issue. This isn't about sides, you know, because listen, 306 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: you're right, he's wrong, he's right, you're wrong. Who gives 307 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: a fucking shit? You know what matters is logistically, how 308 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: do we move forward in this situation? That's what matters, right. 309 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's matter. 310 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: That's the question to be solved because because oh, you're right, 311 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, who give? So what what do you do 312 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: with that? Where do you where you cash that those 313 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: tokens in? 314 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: You know? 315 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, the answer is like, well, how do you move 316 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: forward in the situation? The answer is, I don't know. 317 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: It depends on everyone and how your spirit feels and whatnot. 318 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: But I'm a big fan of the path at least resistance. 319 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I need I gotta like stop 320 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: dwelling on it and just kind of just kind of 321 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: move forward and be like, uh, all right, what happened? 322 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: Did happen? And it sucks, but we have come to 323 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: our understanding and we just kind of got to move 324 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: on from there. 325 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: You have three more minutes left to work, right, I. 326 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: Do have three more minutes left of work? 327 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: Is anyone coming for you? How's it? Where you go ahead? 328 00:15:58,600 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: I'll leave? 329 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I'm just gonna ask you how your 330 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: day was going. I feel like I feel like we're 331 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: going to a good uh good conclusion too to my 332 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: to my problem. I've I've found clarity, You've helped me, 333 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: You've helped me find myself. 334 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: Okay, good, good, I'll take that. I'll take that to 335 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: the bank. 336 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 337 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: How's my day going? My day's going? Okay, Yeah, that's it. 338 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I have anything else. I feel 339 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: like we have to. I feel like I want to. 340 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: I want to. I want to go two more minutes 341 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: with you because I want to. I said I was 342 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: going to run out this clock, and now I want to. 343 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: We got to Philly. We gotta fully do it. 344 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we we really do. 345 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: How do you want to spend these last two minutes? 346 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: I kind of want to get to know you on 347 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: a on a bit of a deeper level. I've been 348 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: listening to your podcast for so long and and like 349 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: I feel like I have you you figured out pretty well. 350 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: Like you're a social person, you like activities. But what 351 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: what else? I've been watching a lot of decks there recently, 352 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: so I'm I'm big into finding that that dark side 353 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: of people. 354 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: Oh god, what else? I let's see what can I 355 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: tell you about my dark side in the next two minutes. 356 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: One minute now, okay, one minute? Uh, I don't know. 357 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: I get depressed sometimes, but everyone knows that. 358 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 359 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: Nothing exciting nothing, I'm sorry exciting life. 360 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: No no, no, no good? 361 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: But uh uh is dexter good? Should I watch it? 362 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: I think you'd like it a lot. I'm on the 363 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: fourth season right now, which is apparently the best season, 364 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: and so far so good, man, very very good. I'm 365 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: on like the seventh episode, Ship's Going Down. I feel 366 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: like you'd like it. We watch watch a couple of 367 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: episodes after you're after you're done with the stream, and 368 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: and tell me how you like it. 369 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: What's your name again? 370 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: Spencer? 371 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: Spencer? 372 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 2: S p E N s E R? 373 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: What what else was it supposed to? Oh? 374 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: Ship? 375 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: Really? Okay? I was when I thought of you, is like, 376 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck else are you supposed 377 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: to spell Spencer with? But there's no there's an S 378 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: instead of a C. 379 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, how about that? Throw a book or a 380 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 2: series of books? 381 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: All right, Spencer, let's end this phone call. 382 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 2: All right? You have a wonderful Is. 383 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: There anything else you want to say to the people 384 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: of the computer before we go. 385 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: Acknowledge your tribal chief. 386 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Acknowledge your tribal chief? Yes, what does that mean? 387 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: It's it's a w W reference, the only thing good 388 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: thing to say. It was kind of dumb. I'm sorry. 389 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't dumb. It's just I don't know what it means. 390 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: That doesn't that's not the same. 391 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's a lot, a lot to explain. 392 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'll see you later, see you, Gek, 393 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: bye bye. All right, we're gonna google this. We're now. 394 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm not letting this get away from us. Okay, acknowledge 395 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: it's your tribal chief. This is a w W E thing. 396 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: The phrase acknowledge your tribal chief. It's a popular catchphrase 397 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: used by Roman Raids, a professional wrestler who identifies as 398 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: the tribal chief. What does it mean? 399 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: Uh? 400 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: Okay. I think it's like a cartman respect my authority thing. 401 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start using that acknowledge my tribal chief. I 402 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: don't know. It feels like a weird thing for a 403 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: white guy to say, but I I don't know. It 404 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: could be fun to say. 405 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 4: All from rue. 406 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, Hi there, Hey, what's going on? 407 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: Gek? 408 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: Not much. Man, are you? Are you the guy who 409 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: texted me I recently had a supernatural encounter with God? 410 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that's me. 411 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: Uh Rue is your name? That's the name of the 412 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: kangaroo from that's the name of one of the kangaroos 413 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: from Winnie the Pooh. But funk all that shit. You 414 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: you had a supernatural encounter with God? What does that 415 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: look like? 416 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: Dude? 417 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 5: Yeah? So this year has been fucking absolutely kind of 418 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 5: crazy for me. To be totally honest, I feel like 419 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 5: I've been coming into the man that God needs me 420 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 5: to be. I've personally found God and have been on 421 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 5: my walk with Him and Jesus. So yeah, I'm more 422 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 5: than willing to tell you about my experience if you're 423 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 5: if you're willing to listen. 424 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. You know what's funny is, I've actually been 425 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: like I go to the park a lot. I go 426 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: to the park a lot to record this podcast, and 427 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: there's always somebody who's trying to talk to people about 428 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: God and I It's like I'm always like I'll go 429 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: up to them a lot actually, and I'll talk to 430 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: them about God and stuff, and I feel like. 431 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 5: What do you do you like ask do you ask 432 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 5: them questions or do you like, well. 433 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well because I feel like, well, here's the thing. 434 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: It's like in New York City, it's like, you know, 435 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent of people who walk past 436 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: that person, they will not look at them, you know, 437 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: because nobody wants it. But I'm you know, I'm weird, 438 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm like, I got some time to kill. 439 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: I would rather I would rather talk to this preacher 440 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes than look at my phone for fifteen minutes. 441 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: That's the main reason I'm doing it. 442 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 443 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: I learned some stuff. 444 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of people who represent faith 445 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: and represent God have kind of tainted his name, and 446 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 5: I've been a victim of that myself. If it weren't 447 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 5: for the encounters that I've had with him this year, 448 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 5: I would have been in the same boat. You know. 449 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 5: I've totally rejected God as a whole and the idea 450 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 5: of him just because of the hypocrisy around the faith 451 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 5: and the hypocrisy that people have brought to it. So like, 452 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 5: I totally get why people are super dodgy around it 453 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 5: because I've been there myself. But yeah, it's cool that 454 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 5: you are open to the idea of whatever it is. 455 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: Well sort of, well, okay, so I'll say, and I 456 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: want to t I talk too much about myself, but 457 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: I I want to get to your encounters. But well, 458 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: I talked to one dude I think I want to say. 459 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: It was like a they're getting funky. Used to be 460 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: like there's there's Jewish, Christian and Muslim, and now it's like, no, 461 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: he can be you know, there's a lot of funky 462 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: mixed religions. And I was talking to some guy I 463 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: think he was. He was Jewish. He was Jewish, and 464 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about God. I don't know, I can't he's 465 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know what exactly what he was, 466 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: but he wasn't fully Jewish. I don't know what he was. 467 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: But he liked God and he was like talking about 468 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: I I'm not there's a few things I'm not sold on. 469 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sold on heaven and Hell. I'm not sold 470 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: on heaven in Hell because I feel like, so we're 471 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: all in God's image theoretically right, and so if we're 472 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: all in God's image, I almost I've I've lately have 473 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: taken on a bit of a deterministic point of view 474 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: of the world. And so like, you know, any any 475 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: evil that exists on the planet is almost like of God, 476 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, if we're all made of God. So it's 477 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: like those two the idea that we're all created by God, 478 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: but that we also uh can make these sort of 479 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: decisions as mortals, that landis in heaven or hell. It doesn't. 480 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: It feels a little weird to me. I mean also, 481 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: it's like a way of completely of like absolving yourself 482 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: of any I do think humans probably maybe have choice 483 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: in things, but a lot of that deterministic. But anyway, anyway, 484 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: I don't know I'm getting I'm too much on myself. 485 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: What what was your encounter with God? 486 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 5: This is this is this is the way the conversation 487 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 5: is flowing. Let's let's keep it going, Okay. 488 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: So I can style, I can. 489 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 5: I can only speak on my own experiences. Like I said, 490 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 5: I'm new in the faith, so I'm a horrible person 491 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 5: to give facts. I can only speak on on my 492 00:24:54,040 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 5: own accord. But as far as I understand it, you 493 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 5: say that you you're not sold on the whole heaven 494 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 5: and hell thing. So my idea of it is everything 495 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 5: that's wrong with the world is the absence of God. Right, 496 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 5: God in in itself is love, God in in itself 497 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 5: is wholeness. Okay, so hell itself and everything bad in 498 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 5: the world is the absence of God. In my own head, Okay, 499 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 5: there's a lot of there's a lot of scripture that 500 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 5: I can quote that can back it. I actually don't 501 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 5: have my notepad with me. I have a lot of 502 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 5: that in there. 503 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, I get it. I get it. 504 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: I always I get it as like an allegory, Like 505 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: you don't even like to believe in what you're saying. 506 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't even think you have to believe in anything 507 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: beyond uh, the empirical. 508 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: To find empirical, because I have no idea what the fuck. 509 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I'm I don't know the whole thing 510 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: of Like, you don't have to believe in anything supernatural, 511 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: I think to believe in what you're saying, because everything 512 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: you're saying is just allegorical, Like God is just God 513 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: is just being nice at that point, you know. 514 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 5: Right, Okay, I see what you're saying. But yeah, God, okay, Yeah, 515 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 5: So I guess I'll just kind of open up about 516 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 5: my experience. So in the beginning of the year when 517 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 5: I actually have had a few encounters with God himself 518 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 5: this year or just like the presence of what is holy. 519 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 5: So in the beginning of the year, I at the 520 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 5: end of last year, I went through a horrible breakup. 521 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 5: I went through kind of just like a really horrible 522 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 5: time in life, and I felt that God called me 523 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 5: to him through kind of just like the people around me, 524 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 5: kind of opened up my eyes as to who He 525 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 5: is through his creation, you know, like I look around 526 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 5: everything that is and ever was, and everything is so 527 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 5: perfectly fine tuned that I say to myself, how can 528 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 5: there not be a God? 529 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: You know? 530 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 5: And I feel like God opened up himself through that 531 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 5: kind of opened up my eyes that fact. 532 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I'm such 533 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: an asshole. But is everything so perfectly fine tuned? 534 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 5: Well as far as like the chaos and everything in 535 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 5: the world, but like at yourself, get your brain, your heart, 536 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 5: everything nature, the bees flying around me right and there's 537 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 5: literally a bee flying in my face right now. Sorry, 538 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 5: you know, just stuff like that, Like you go to 539 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 5: like a waterfall and everything is running in fine tune 540 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 5: and all of that. I understand what you're saying. Like 541 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 5: the the bad things in the world, you know, is 542 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 5: that kind of what you're getting asked to? You don't 543 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 5: think that things are are finely tuned? 544 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't think things are perfect, and 545 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: they've never been, but I I I'll things are good. 546 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: I think they're but they're like, for as bad as 547 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: they are, they're pretty Like I'm surprised that the world 548 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: functions as well as it does currently, even though there's like, uh, 549 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, war and uh famine all as bad stuff. 550 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: It's like the fact that you know, I mean, it's 551 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: not gonna be a hundred set perfect, but the fact 552 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: that it functions as well as it does currently. 553 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: It's pretty pretty crazy. 554 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy. I agree with that. I'll buy that. 555 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: I'll buy that. 556 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the idea of consciousness in it itself 557 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 5: is fucking crazy. Like I remember being a kid and 558 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 5: gaining consciousness. I don't remember when it was, but I 559 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 5: remember gaining consciousness and being like what is this, you know, 560 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 5: and looking at myself and being like like, I'm a 561 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 5: person and I'm experiencing I'm experiencing this experience and everything 562 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 5: just kind of works, you know. 563 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So you were going through some time. So let's 564 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: get a little less philosophical, a little bit more personal. 565 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: So you were going through some stuff and then you 566 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: know what happened. How did you kind of you seem 567 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: you strike me as a peaceful and optimistic gentleman. How 568 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: did you arrive there? 569 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, thank you. 570 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 5: I still struggle with the peaceful and optimistic part of life. 571 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 5: If I'm being totally honest with you, Okay, I will 572 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 5: open up about a specific thing that I've been kind 573 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 5: of going through. So I've been real big into the 574 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 5: reeve scene. Okay, I've been real big into the reeve 575 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 5: scene the last like three years of my life, which 576 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 5: I feel like God right now in the current point 577 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 5: of where I'm at, is telling me to step back 578 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 5: from that. 579 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: Okay. 580 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 5: I'm not really sure how this correlates to what we're 581 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 5: speaking of if I'm being totally honest, but I just 582 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 5: feel like I just feel like I should say it. Okay. 583 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 5: So I've been in this circle for the longest time. Okay, 584 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 5: over the last like month or so two months of 585 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 5: my life, I have just felt a really uneasy and 586 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 5: just like dark presence in those areas. Okay, as far 587 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 5: as drugs go, you know, I've been in a struggling 588 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 5: addict since I've been like sixteen years old, pretty much 589 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 5: have tried everything in the book. Just people around me 590 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 5: have pulled me down to some dark places regarding the 591 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 5: rave scene and all of that. But yeah, I recently 592 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 5: the encounter that I've I'm speaking of kind of had 593 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 5: a lot to do with that and about my struggles 594 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 5: with addiction. I was sitting in my well, hold on. 595 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 5: I had a weekend where I went out, Okay, okay, 596 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 5: hold on, hold on, hold on, gek, I'm getting ahead 597 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 5: of myself. 598 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: Let me backpedal. 599 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 5: So I came to God in the beginning of the year, okay, 600 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 5: and I cut off a lot of that stuff for 601 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 5: a long time, and then I went back to it. 602 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 5: I fell back into old habits. I fell back into 603 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 5: a lot of drugs, and I fell back into a 604 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 5: lot of that kind of stuff and felt myself kind 605 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 5: of floating away from God. 606 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: Now I had a. 607 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 5: Mentor for the longest time, and he reached out to 608 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 5: me and kind of asked me how things were going, 609 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 5: and I opened up to him. I was like, yeah, man, 610 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 5: I fell this is where I'm at. And so he 611 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 5: set a date a few weeks ago, like a few 612 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 5: mondays ago, and he was like, I'm coming to get you. 613 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 5: We're gonna talk things out, and I must see where 614 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 5: you're at. So I told myself, come Monday, this is it. Okay, 615 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 5: Come Monday, I'm going in and I'm looking back to God. Okay. Now, 616 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 5: the weekend before that Monday geck was the craziest weekend 617 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 5: I've ever had in my life. I went out and 618 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 5: almost it almost felt like I had to get it 619 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 5: all out of my system. 620 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: You know. 621 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 5: I went crazy. I did everything. And there's a story 622 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 5: in the Bible where the devil takes Jesus Christ around 623 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 5: and about and he tests him. He tells him make 624 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 5: these rocks into bread. If you are Jesus Christ himself, 625 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 5: throw yourself off of this sledge, and the angels of 626 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 5: God will catch you for it says, a foot will 627 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 5: not strike a rock. 628 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: Okay. 629 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 5: The devil tempted Jesus Christ with all of these things 630 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 5: in that moment, and I felt like I was in 631 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 5: the exact same situation that weekend. It was the craziest thing. 632 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: The devil tempted Jesus to jump off a fucking cliff. Yeah, 633 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: that's more of a day or than a temptation. 634 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: That's more it was like, yeah, yeah, the way I 635 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: ordered it kind of sounds like that. 636 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: Man, but uh so the devil, the devil. 637 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 5: It was more like it was more like prove yourself. 638 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah the devil shit tested him. 639 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, it was more like prove yourself. Okay, anyway, Yeah, 640 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 5: so I went through something very similar to that the 641 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 5: weekend before that Monday, Man, I told myself, I was like, 642 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 5: come Monday, this is it. I'm walking back in ghek. 643 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 5: Let me tell you about this weekend. Okay, I've never 644 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 5: in my life had so many women thrown at me. 645 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 5: I've never in my life had so much put in 646 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 5: front of my face. I had so many drugs offered 647 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 5: to me, I had so many friends offered to me. 648 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 5: Like typically a regular like night of me going out 649 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 5: and like raving and going crazy, I go to a rave, uh, 650 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 5: get fucked up and go home. But this specific night, man, 651 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 5: I got like connected to a lot of people, and 652 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 5: I've got I got connected to a lot of like 653 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 5: people in the scene in my area in Charlotte, and 654 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 5: it almost felt like the devil was kind of like 655 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 5: showing me what he had to offer you. Know if 656 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 5: I like went this way. 657 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: Okay, and so all right, so let me like, I'm 658 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: gonna like your story so far is okay. So you 659 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: were not doing well, you had a mentor sponsor, let's 660 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: say almost, and uh, your sponsored was like okay on Mondays. 661 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: You call your sponsor Friday Monday, He's like, all right, 662 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna come down, we're gonna talk. And then you're like, 663 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: all right, before I, you know, start getting my shit 664 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: together with this guy, I'm gonna go out for the weekend. 665 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: And you go out and the devil starts tempting you 666 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: with with with drugs and women, and yeah, okay, and 667 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: then what happened? What happens? What happens? Come Monday. 668 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 5: So Monday had an even pain geck comes Sunday, Okay, Sunday. 669 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 5: I was coming down off of a lot of shit, okay, 670 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 5: and I was going a little crazy, man. I was 671 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 5: low key spiraling. And there was a like, I want 672 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 5: to say, like a four hour period Sunday night after 673 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 5: just being depressed all day because I went crazy the 674 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 5: weekend before where I felt genuinely felt like I was 675 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 5: going fully manic, and it was honestly really scary Gek. 676 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna just give this pretense for absolutely no reason. 677 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 5: I meal prep my breakfast in the morning, okay, Okay. 678 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 5: So I was out of groceries at like ten PM. 679 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 5: I was like, oh shit, I need to go get 680 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 5: groceries to meal prep breakfast in the morning. 681 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 2: I go. 682 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 5: And get groceries, get back to my house with said groceries. 683 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 5: I'm sitting in my driveway. I shut my truck off. 684 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 5: I'm sitting in my driveway and I do not feel well, Gek. 685 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 5: I feel horrible, I feel sick, I feel heavy. My 686 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 5: soul feels heavy. Okay. And there was a solid hour 687 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 5: where I felt these presences. Okay, I don't want to 688 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 5: I want to call them demons, geg, but I don't 689 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 5: want to give him a name. But they felt heavy, dude. 690 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 5: They felt so heavy, so dark. And I'm sitting in 691 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 5: my truck and it felt genuinely felt like God himself, 692 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 5: Jesus Christ himself was looking down on me and looking 693 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 5: at all of this unfold. Okay. I have never in 694 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 5: my whole life felt a presence like that. And I 695 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 5: could you know what the crazy thing, Gek is is 696 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 5: that I could differentiate. Okay, I could differentiate set presences. 697 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 5: Like I said, I felt these presences, these dark beings 698 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 5: around me, okay, and I knew that they themselves were 699 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 5: dark and evil, But I could also differentiate the presence 700 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 5: and the holiness of God in that moment, and I 701 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 5: felt God looking at me and watching all of this 702 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 5: unfold and watching me go crazy. Okay, These said dark 703 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 5: presences genuinely were making me go crazy gek And I 704 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 5: don't know how else to explain it other than they 705 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 5: were telling me I was going and crazy. There was 706 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 5: a voice in my head screaming at me to call 707 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 5: nine one one, screaming at me to screaming at me, 708 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 5: telling me that I'm going into psychosis, full blown psychosis. 709 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 5: And I can't help but feel like something left me 710 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 5: that night. 711 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: Did you call nine one one? 712 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:30,919 Speaker 2: No? 713 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 5: I did not. I can't help but feel like something 714 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 5: genuinely left me that night. I don't know if God 715 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 5: called it out of me, if God called it out 716 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 5: of my soul, but it feels like God told me 717 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 5: to lock in for real, as corny and weird as 718 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 5: that sounds, and so God. 719 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: And so what happened, and so what happens on myny 720 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: when you went to go see your person. 721 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 722 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 5: Man, so I was kind of creeping up on that. 723 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 5: But like I said, it felt like I was going crazy. 724 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 5: When I talked to my mentor, he was like, yeah, man, 725 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 5: I have one seen this. He told me that he 726 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 5: wasn't expecting me to come out of my house. He 727 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 5: had this exact same situation happened with like some woman 728 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 5: that he was like pulling trying to help out of 729 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 5: the pits of addiction. And it was the same kind 730 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 5: of thing where he reached out and he said, I'm 731 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 5: coming to get you and we're going to talk it out. 732 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 5: The day that he came and got her, her peers 733 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 5: said that she tried to overdose the the night before. 734 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: You know. 735 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 5: And I can't help but think that I crossed paths 736 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 5: with the same kind of entities. I don't want to 737 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 5: call them that were trying to convince me that I 738 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 5: was going crazy. And because think about it, Gig, had 739 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 5: I called nine one one, had I gave in, okay, 740 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,720 Speaker 5: I wouldn't have went with my mentor. 741 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: You know, And you're never hold on, You're not You're 742 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 1: not gonna, You're not gonna. I I think, if if 743 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: you have a voice, I'm gonna go ahead and say, 744 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: if you have a voice in your head screaming at 745 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: you to call nine one one, shourobably do it? 746 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the thing, man, that's the thing. But this 747 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 5: ship is real, and I will everybody. 748 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'll let you, I'll let you, I'll let 749 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 1: you finish before we go. 750 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, okay, okay, I want to I do, and 751 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 5: I am very interested in your input. But I will 752 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 5: say to everybody listening, okay, and I would really appreciate 753 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 5: if everybody went at this with an open heart and 754 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 5: open mind, because this ship is scarily. 755 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: Real, y'all. Okay, but God loves you. 756 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 5: Okay, God loves you, and he wants the absolute best 757 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 5: for you. And I'm coming from the most genuine place 758 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 5: in Ruth's heart. 759 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: Okay, well, Rue, listen, listen. Uh here, here's here's the thing. 760 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna just I'm sorry because I've let you 761 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: run off alone. 762 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 5: Man, I've been I've been rambling. 763 00:43:59,440 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: There's a lot. 764 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure, and I'm gonna what do 765 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: I think? Well, it's hard because I'm deeply agnostic at 766 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: this point. I don't know what is up and what 767 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 1: is down or whatnot? But do I think, I mean, 768 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 1: I actually know what I think is probably that if 769 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: you really want to know what I think, I think 770 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: you had uh some kind of psychological issue caused by 771 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: doing too many drugs. That's that's That's probably what I believe. 772 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: But I I just hope you're okay. I hope you're 773 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 1: like doing fine, and I hope that you're not doing 774 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: too many Just as long as you're safe, you know, 775 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: as long as you're not doing too many drugs, you're 776 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: not fucking killing yourself over things. You know, that's good. 777 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: But I I I appreciate you you calling and sharing 778 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: your story. 779 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 2: Rue. 780 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: Is there anything else do you want to say to 781 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go? 782 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna repeat myself. 783 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: Okay. 784 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 5: God loves you, Okay, God loves everybody in the world, 785 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 5: and he wants the best for you if he wants 786 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 5: to see you succeed whatever it is that you're going through. Sobriety, 787 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 5: that's what it is for me, Okay. But I know 788 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 5: I receive calmness, I receive tranquility in my soul knowing 789 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 5: that there is a God out there who wants the 790 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 5: best for me and that's it. 791 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: Uh, well, thank you for calling, Ru. I'll see you 792 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: around the universe. 793 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, Man, love you get I listened to you all 794 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 5: the time. Thanks, and I hope I get to speak 795 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 5: to you again. 796 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: Goodbye, have a good night, Rue. 797 00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 2: Bye. 798 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: I maybe rushed them off the foot, but I don't 799 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 1: think I did it. We talked, We got a good 800 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: That was a good twenty eight minutes of talk. Well, 801 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: I think I don't know. I'm a little irritable right now. 802 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I think I just am feeling 803 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm coffeed up. But I mean that, you know, I 804 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, man, I mean I know 805 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: a little bit right. I like thinking about God. I 806 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: like thinking about mainly I think about God as an 807 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: allegory more so than of like a genuine spiritual demon. 808 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of that stuff is 809 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: hallucinations and whatnot. But again, I don't know. I appreciate 810 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: Rue for sharing, and I wish him good luck. Hello, 811 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: gig Hey, what's up? 812 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 5: Man? 813 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: What's your name? 814 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 2: Hello? 815 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 4: My name is Bruno. 816 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: Bruno. Yeah, Yes, what's up? What's up? 817 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 4: What's up? 818 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 2: Is it going? 819 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 4: I'm I'm actually working at the moment I'm at the 820 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 4: hotel and I'm calling from the from the phone of 821 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 4: the hotel. 822 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 2: It's just kind of crazy. 823 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 4: We're not gonna because I spend way too much money 824 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 4: if I do it from my phone. 825 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 1: Yet, we're not going to get you in trouble, are we? 826 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 4: No, not at all, not at all, Not at all. 827 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 2: Not at all. 828 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the way from what I understand about 829 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: European customer service is that it's like, uh, if you 830 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 1: could go to check in at a hotel in Europe 831 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: and then if the guy at the front desk is like, 832 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: I cannot stuck right now, I'm talking to the gickle, 833 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: then uh, they just have to eat. They have to 834 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,399 Speaker 1: eat ship. Yeah, they have to eat ship. 835 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 2: They care y. 836 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, that was a very I'm not good at 837 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: I'm not good at accent, so that was kind of 838 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: like a Russian I feel Russian. 839 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 4: Really. That's funny because a lot of people I'm Portuguese, 840 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 4: by the way, I'm from Portugal, a lot of people 841 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 4: say that people that don't understand Portuguese, it sounds like 842 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 4: drunk Russian, which is a common comment that I have 843 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 4: from guests here, including Yeah, I would say the name 844 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 4: of the hotel because that is probably going to get 845 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 4: him get in trouble. But I'm going to try to 846 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 4: disclose that. 847 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 2: That's the best I can. 848 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: What kind of hotel is this? Is this a popular 849 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 1: hotel or is it? Is it dead enough that you 850 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:27,439 Speaker 1: can take this phone call. 851 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bad enough that I can take this phone 852 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 4: call because it's a long stay hotel. It's like a 853 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,840 Speaker 4: department hotel. A lot of people come in here to 854 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 4: do just like temporary work, like a lot of people 855 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 4: that work in the servers and data servers come here, 856 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 4: often to just the state instead of renting a house 857 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 4: because in Amsterdam it's pretty rough to get a rental apartment. 858 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 4: I'm from Portugal, but I'm actually living in Amsterdam, so 859 00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 4: a little bit more context. 860 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, cool, I love Amsterdam Man. Amsterdam is one 861 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: of my favorite cities in the world. 862 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, you were here doing the talk in Vondelpark, and 863 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 4: I was I didn't know, and then I went there 864 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 4: super fast to see if I could catch you still, 865 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 4: but nobody was there, so. 866 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: So Bruno, I was. 867 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,720 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm actually I'm a little star struck. I'm sorry 868 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 4: because I called a bunch of times and every time 869 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 4: the voice memo came up, I thought it was actually you, 870 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,320 Speaker 4: so I got fooled like three times. 871 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 1: This is me, brother, this is me. Well let me 872 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: ask you this Bruno is and it's okay. If not, 873 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 1: we can just shoot the ship. But is there anything 874 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: in particular that you called in to want to talk about. 875 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 4: I just wanted to personally thank you for all the 876 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 4: all the company that you've been keeping me in here. 877 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 4: Because I moved from Portugal to the Netherlands by myself. 878 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 4: You have to wait like a year to actually find 879 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 4: the house and be here with my girlfriend. But that 880 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 4: year was very lonely, and I found your podcast and 881 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 4: I heard like the two most recent ones, and then 882 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 4: I went all the way back to the bottom, and 883 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,280 Speaker 4: it was like it was kind of like watching a series, 884 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 4: you know, listening to a series, like every day. I 885 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 4: listened tolad ly too, so much that I kept I 886 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,320 Speaker 4: kept up until now. So now every week I'm waiting 887 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 4: for you to drop an episode, and every time I 888 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 4: get the opportunity to call, every time I see the story, 889 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,320 Speaker 4: it is too late, You're already not on the stream, 890 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 4: or the line is not open anymore. So yeah, this 891 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 4: was my chance. I took it and you picked up 892 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 4: and I'm very happy about it. 893 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 894 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, that's awesome. That's I'm I'm super happy to 895 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: hear that you've listened to a whole motherfucking catalog. Yes, well, 896 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 1: let me ask you. I have questions. It's okay, it's okay. 897 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,280 Speaker 1: I have questions about your life, Bruno. So you moved here? 898 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: Please do? Please do? 899 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,439 Speaker 4: I waited so long to be in this position. Aly, shit, 900 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 4: let me know. 901 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you. 902 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: Moved to Amsterdam alone? You said yes? And does your 903 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: girl and you mentioned you have a girlfriend? Does your 904 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: girlfriend live with you in Amsterdam? Now? 905 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 4: Yes? Right now? 906 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:19,760 Speaker 2: Yes? 907 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 1: Okay? And how long were you living in Amsterdam alone 908 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 1: before she came? 909 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 4: I came here in the summer of twenty twenty two, 910 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 4: and she came around and I think late May, beginning 911 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 4: of June of twenty twenty three. And what was it 912 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 4: like for it was not a full year, but it. 913 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 1: Was almost yet What was it like for you when 914 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: you were just here by yourself? 915 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 4: It was a little lonely. Dutch people are a little 916 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 4: cold and straightforward, so it was kind of hard to 917 00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 4: make friends at the beginning, because that's straightforwardness and direct 918 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 4: directness if that makes any sense. 919 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm back to the Dutch directness. Yeah, that's like 920 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: their whole thing. 921 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I got it. I got it wrong because 922 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 4: I thought they were just being rude randomly to me. 923 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 4: I was like, dude, I can't I can't deal with this. 924 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 4: But time passed and I realized that that's just their 925 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 4: personality trait and it's just how they are. So yeah, 926 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,839 Speaker 4: that's it. That was the I think that was the 927 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 4: most difficult thing that I had to adapt. And the 928 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 4: food culture is very bad also, they don't have decent 929 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 4: gastronomy here. I lost a lot of weights. I used 930 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 4: to weigh well I don't know the pounds stuff, but 931 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 4: I used to I used to weigh one hundred and 932 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 4: five kilos and now I'm down to eighty two. And 933 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 4: I didn't do any gym or what not. So just 934 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 4: from the adaptation to the to the food culture in here. 935 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well what do you think about the feb What 936 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: is it? Pebot febo? Do you know what I'm talking about? 937 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my go to. Yeah, if I have to 938 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 4: eat Dutch food, I go to. 939 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 1: Yeah that's the For those who don't know, that's the 940 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,879 Speaker 1: like fast food fried shit that they got over there, 941 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: the fried croquettes. 942 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like self service. You pass the cars 943 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 4: on the machine and the little door opens and you 944 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 4: just pick up your food. There's no people involved. 945 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: So how is life for you now? 946 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,399 Speaker 4: Lately? It's been weird because I feel like I'm kind 947 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 4: of stuck in this routine because I work at the hotel, 948 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 4: as I mentioned, and I live in the same streets 949 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 4: as the hotel, so sometimes it's I feel like I 950 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,879 Speaker 4: don't leave my streets because the supermarket is also here, 951 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 4: and a bunch of stuff at home also, So I 952 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 4: don't know, it's weird. I've been feeling stuck in this 953 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,399 Speaker 4: routine and I've been trying to find something to kind 954 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 4: of break out of it. I contacted a personal trainer 955 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 4: to try to make me a workout program so I 956 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,359 Speaker 4: can start working out or something. I started playing far 957 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 4: Cry five, which I never did, and I'm doing it now, 958 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 4: So I don't know. I'm just trying to change my 959 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 4: routine around a little bit because I feel like I 960 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 4: never leave the street. But overall life is going great. Yeah. 961 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 4: Me and my girlfriend and are saving up for a house. 962 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 4: We don't know where yet. Maybe we're going to buy 963 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 4: in Portugal. I don't know, because here the prices are 964 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 4: insane also to purchase houses. Yeah, man, just day by 965 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 4: day going. 966 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: So why did you move to Amsterdam? Why didn't you 967 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 1: just find a job in Portugal? Is there something better 968 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 1: about Amsterdam? 969 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 4: Yes, mainly the wages. The wages are way bigger. The 970 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 4: minimum wages in Portugal is at I'm not mistaken, is 971 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 4: eight hundred and fifty something like that, and the minimum 972 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 4: well at one point eight k. So it's a thousand 973 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,320 Speaker 4: a thousand euros different. So it's it's a big difference. 974 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 4: I'm twenty eight. I moved here when I was twenty wait, 975 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 4: twenty five? Yeah, sorry, that was embarrassing. Uh move here 976 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 4: at twenty five? I mean yeah, just saving up money. 977 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to get a house either here or 978 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 4: in Portugal, and yeah maybe a kid in the meantime, 979 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 4: who knows. 980 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 1: That could be cool, That could be cool. What do 981 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 1: you speak any Dutch? Do you learn any Dutch? 982 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 4: I've been trying, but it's super complicated, super super complicated. 983 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 4: I know I'll speak Portuguese, Spanish and English. Like Portuguese 984 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 4: is my native language, so I speak it perfectly, but 985 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 4: the other two I speak it almost natively. But Dutch. 986 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 4: I've been trying to practice, but it's hard. It's very hard. 987 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:13,399 Speaker 4: I know the how's it called, the conversations at the moment, 988 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 4: like saying thank you and you're welcome and goodbye and 989 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 4: those that type of stuff. I know, But these people 990 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,320 Speaker 4: try to get in conversations with me. I'm like, sorry, sorry, No, 991 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 4: it's very complicated, especially for people that have like Latino 992 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 4: languages has their base. It's very very different. And yeah, 993 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 4: I already know three languages, so it's kind of hard 994 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 4: and classes are very expensive. 995 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the deal with your girlfriend? Where is she 996 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,280 Speaker 1: also Portuguese? And what's she doing? 997 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 4: She is Italian. We met in Lisbon. I was living 998 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 4: in Luson for a year before the pandemic, before no, 999 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 4: while the pandemic was happening, and pretty much she was 1000 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 4: doing at asthmo's program in there, which is like an 1001 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 4: abroad student program here in Europe. Yeah, we met in there. 1002 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 4: Then she had to go back to Italy. I had 1003 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 4: to go back to my hometown and we were split 1004 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 4: it for like two years. I was constantly going to Italy, 1005 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 4: she was constantly coming to Portugal, and with the COVID 1006 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 4: stuff that happened at time, it was super hard. I 1007 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 4: had to test pretty much every week to be sure 1008 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 4: that fly, you know. But yeah, she actually got me 1009 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 4: this job at this hotel because I had a pretty 1010 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 4: shitty job in a warehouse in here, and she wanted 1011 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 4: to leave for a five star hotel because this is 1012 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 4: a three star hotel. So she left and she gave 1013 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 4: me her job. Yeah, and now I'm chilling. 1014 00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 1: Oh, she left her job and then gave it to you. 1015 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 4: Pretty much. 1016 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, can you just do that? 1017 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 4: No, But I knew because I came here to visit her, 1018 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,440 Speaker 4: like as you can tell, I've been speaking to you 1019 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 4: for some minutes now, and nobody came here to ask 1020 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 4: me anything. 1021 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 1: That's a very good point. That's a very good point. 1022 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: I am very surprised that nobody I asked you to 1023 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 1: do your job in the. 1024 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 4: Past because I also lived close by, as I mentioned before, 1025 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 4: So every time she was working and I was home, 1026 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 4: I would just come here to chill with her. And 1027 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 4: eventually I got to know the manager. So when I 1028 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 4: got in a sensitive position when it came to my job, 1029 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 4: I told a guy like, hey, Sanna's leaving could I 1030 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 4: possibly take over her place? And they gave me, like 1031 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 4: they give me a mini interview, get like some background 1032 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 4: checks and stuff, and yeah, now I'm here being a 1033 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 4: host in a hotel. I never studied like a hospitality 1034 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 4: or anything. They just said, oh you. 1035 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 1: Cool, you can come, and I'm here, okay, And I've been. 1036 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 4: Enjoying the It was very nice. I mean, I meet 1037 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 4: a lot of people from the US, which I find 1038 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 4: interesting because a lot of my base, uh knowledge, if 1039 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 4: you could call it that, Like a lot of stuff 1040 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 4: that I consume comes from the US. So I know 1041 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 4: a lot of stuff, a lot of like I don't know. 1042 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 4: Ask me a question, a general question of American culture, 1043 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 4: like pop culture or something. 1044 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 1: Ask you a general question. I don't even know that 1045 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: much about American pop culture, to be honest with you. Uh, well, 1046 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: what do you what a what do you think about Americans? 1047 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 1: Like what's the perception of Americans over there? Because I 1048 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: have to gander it's not it. I don't know if 1049 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: it's amazing right now? Is it? 1050 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 4: It depends when Okay, think everything and I'm going to say, 1051 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 4: with a pinch of salt, Okay, when Americans come with 1052 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 4: a family to vacation. They're by far the most annoying ones. Definitely. 1053 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 4: They keep trying to get compensations, like, hey, the air 1054 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 4: conditioning was two degrees more than I wanted to. I 1055 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 4: want fifty percent of the total price. Yeah, like a refund. 1056 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 4: You know, that's very common in American guests, but the 1057 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 4: majority are very very like when young people, younger people come, 1058 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 4: they're very I don't like to say open, I don't 1059 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 4: that's not the right word. But easy, too easy to 1060 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 4: talk to, like they're always up for a conversation, for 1061 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 4: a coffee, like they ask recommendations. They do like small talk. 1062 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 4: But when a family comes around, it's no, it's a 1063 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 4: bit of a nightemare. So it's fifty fifty to be honest, 1064 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 4: final answer, fifty fifty. I like Americans when there was 1065 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 4: a family not. 1066 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 1: Really okay, so there so we got a lot of 1067 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: care and energy coming in. When you see somebody with 1068 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 1: a fan family. 1069 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 4: A little yeah, because it always comes from the mom, 1070 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 4: you know, m h And yeah that's my that's my 1071 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,479 Speaker 4: review on an American guests. 1072 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: What's your relationship like with your family? 1073 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 4: Oh, I have an amazing relationship with my family. Yeah, 1074 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 4: I speak to them like at least two times a 1075 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 4: day to my When I say my family, I say 1076 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 4: my parents and my sister. All the other family members 1077 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 4: are a little out of the picture because of some 1078 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 4: family problems. But yeah, the relationship with my family is 1079 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 4: top notch. I don't think a lot of people can 1080 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 4: say that. 1081 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's becoming a little bit more rarer of a thing. 1082 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 1: And do they still live in Portugal or are they 1083 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 1: somewhere else? 1084 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, they still live in Portugal. Yeah. My sister 1085 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 4: is also thinking of getting out of the country more 1086 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 4: as a as an experience sort of thing. You know, 1087 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 4: she's twenty three and she's been living with my parents forever, 1088 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,360 Speaker 4: so she wants kind of to get out there and 1089 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 4: experience some real life stuff, if you know what I mean. 1090 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 1: Have you ever been to the States? 1091 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 4: No, but I would love to. I'm planning a trip 1092 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 4: to New York because I met a guest here. His 1093 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 4: name is His name is Jason. Shout out Jason if 1094 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 4: he's listening. I don't know if he's a fan of 1095 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 4: the therapy Gecko, but yeah, yeah, I've been speaking to 1096 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 4: him a lot, and I'm I think I'm visiting Washington, Yes, so. 1097 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 1: Wow, Oh, so you met a guest he invited you 1098 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 1: to like come stay with him and ship. 1099 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 4: Yes, because he was living here in the Netherlands some 1100 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 4: years ago and he came to He came for a trip, 1101 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 4: just like a nostalgia trip because he's retired already and stuff. 1102 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 4: But it was super nice and every time he saw 1103 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 4: me around, he just here in the front desk talking 1104 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 4: to me. And I really quick clicked to the guy 1105 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 4: because he really reminded me of my dad when he 1106 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 4: was more young, and we were just talking. Every day 1107 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 4: he would pass, he will say hi to me, he 1108 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 4: will stay here, and I will just spend almost the 1109 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 4: whole shift with a guy just talking to him. And 1110 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 4: I also told him this, like everything that I'm a 1111 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 4: fan of, pretty much the ninety percent of the times 1112 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 4: comes from the US, and I'm really amazed by everything 1113 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 4: by like I don't know, the little things like the 1114 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 4: yellow taxis, the fucking school buses, like just aesthetic in general, 1115 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 4: you know. And I kept telling him that, and he 1116 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 4: was like, you have to come to my house. You 1117 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,960 Speaker 4: have to come to my house, bring your girlfriend and 1118 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 4: your parents if you want to. And I'm like that 1119 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 4: I never went to the US, so I guess first 1120 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 4: stop is going to be Washington. 1121 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, super cool DC. 1122 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,440 Speaker 4: And it's different, right, Washington State and Washington DC. 1123 01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Washington DC is over on the East coast. 1124 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 1: Washington State is on the west coast. 1125 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 4: Oh it's DC then yeah, yeah I can't. I can't. Yeah, 1126 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 4: I have to keep an eye out to that yet. 1127 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean you could cover a lot of 1128 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 1: good ground. You got Washington, d C. There's New York City, 1129 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 1: there's Philadelphia. You can have a nice trip in just 1130 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 1: those three cities. 1131 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's kind of what I wanted to do, 1132 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 4: to kind of do like the East Coast from top 1133 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 4: to bottom, not really from top to bottom, but that 1134 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 4: as many places as I can. Yeah, I'm thinking when 1135 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 4: next summer. Fun fact, I never left Europe. Really, I 1136 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 4: don't even have a passports? 1137 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah really wait but do you need? Uh? 1138 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 2: WHI? 1139 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 1: So what kind of you don't have, like a Portuguese passport? 1140 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 1: You have an EU? 1141 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 2: Like? 1142 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,640 Speaker 1: How do you? How do you like you don't need 1143 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 1: a passport to travel between the European countries, do you? 1144 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 4: No, we don't. We just need to have our ID 1145 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:57,000 Speaker 4: from our country. 1146 01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1147 01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,160 Speaker 4: We call it citizen cards because it's like all in one. 1148 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 4: It's your ide, it's your social security stuff. In some cases, 1149 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 4: there's also the driver's license in there mmmmm and a 1150 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 4: UNI document. Pretty much. 1151 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 1: Where where would you want to go if you could 1152 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: go anywhere? Is it the US or is there somewhere 1153 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 1: somewhere higher on your list? 1154 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,280 Speaker 4: There's definitely stuff higher on my list. So I would 1155 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 4: love to go to Brazil, though. Brazil is kind of 1156 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 4: like my I mean destination, Yeah, to go visit, like 1157 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 4: the but like not the hill the gene do not 1158 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,080 Speaker 4: like Bayia, not the main cities. I want to go 1159 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 4: to the heart of Brazil, to the jungle. 1160 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 2: You know. 1161 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, you want to go to the jungle. 1162 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 4: That's well again take that with a pinch of salt. 1163 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,360 Speaker 4: Not really the jungle, but I would like to explore 1164 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,560 Speaker 4: like the nature in there. You know, it's very different 1165 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 4: from what we have in Portugal and in the Netherlands. 1166 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 4: And I'm a nature guy. I like to be in 1167 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 4: the middle of the tree. So yeah, not. 1168 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 1: A lot of not a lot of good hike. Not 1169 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 1: a lot of good hiking in DC and New York City. 1170 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 4: I don't No, it's just for the fact that I 1171 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 4: never went. I want to see the stuff that I see, 1172 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,400 Speaker 4: you know, through my phone, through my screens on in 1173 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 4: front of me. 1174 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 1: Kind of what's the number one thing that you have 1175 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 1: seen on your phone that you would want to see 1176 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 1: in person. 1177 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 4: That's a rough question. Uh oh, that's tough. I don't know. 1178 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 4: I don't know. Damn, you just put me on the spot. 1179 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:48,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1180 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 1: That's okay, I don't know. 1181 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 4: I guess just arriving and take it in. 1182 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 2: I guess. I don't know. 1183 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of for I mean, for me, 1184 01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,680 Speaker 1: A lot of China's stuff comes up on my Instagram, 1185 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 1: a lot, like a lot of like weird, crazy architecture 1186 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 1: comes up where it's like here's a whole fuck yeah, 1187 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,480 Speaker 1: like stuff where it's like here's a whole like like 1188 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 1: a garden and a whole like big giant park that's 1189 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,720 Speaker 1: like on the roof of this crazy building. And usually 1190 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 1: that stuff is. 1191 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 4: Either in oh what you mean? 1192 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Usually a lot of stuff when I'm like, well, 1193 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 1: where the fuck is this crazy thing? It's in China. 1194 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like layers. Do you think you're on the 1195 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:29,760 Speaker 4: ground floor and then you go to the edge of 1196 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 4: the building and you're actually in like the thirty fifth 1197 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 4: floor or something. 1198 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm hm. 1199 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 4: Do I've seen some beats about that. 1200 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. 1201 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 1: Do you get a lot of time off in uh 1202 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 1: in Amsterdam at this hotel or are you working a lot? 1203 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 4: I have the average. I have two days two days 1204 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 4: off a week. Sometimes they are not together, which sucks 1205 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 4: because it doesn't doesn't really seem like a weekend. That's fine. 1206 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 4: As long as I have my two three days during 1207 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 4: the week, that's that's okay. 1208 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:04,439 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 1209 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,000 Speaker 4: And again, I've been speaking to you for twenty two minutes, right, 1210 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 4: and I just gave a person a package and that's 1211 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:11,640 Speaker 4: that's all. 1212 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what are you normally like? Okay, so on 1213 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 1: your days off and when you're just kind of fucking 1214 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 1: around and nobody's bothering you, what do you normally do? 1215 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,760 Speaker 4: What can you? Can you repeat the question please, it's 1216 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,000 Speaker 4: to kind of cut off a little bit. 1217 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Oh, on your days off? What do you do? 1218 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 4: A bunch of stuff? Like I told you that, I'm 1219 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,639 Speaker 4: trying to change my ways a little bit. I started 1220 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,599 Speaker 4: working out, even though I'm waiting for my personal trainers 1221 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 4: to send me the correct training plan, but I started 1222 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 4: doing some workout stuff. There's some outdoor, like those outdoor 1223 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 4: exercise places that are in random park sometimes, you know. 1224 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 4: I started working out in those because gyms are a 1225 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:04,680 Speaker 4: bit expensive in here. I started playing Xbox. I bought 1226 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 4: an Xbox for like one hundred eros, like a series 1227 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:12,840 Speaker 4: X I believe, Yeah, like the last generation Xbox with 1228 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 4: the slim version with mega cheap. So I just bought it. 1229 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,000 Speaker 1: And yeah, what you've been playing on the Xbox. 1230 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 4: I've been playing Fair Cry five because it was on 1231 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 4: discounts and I already played the six and it was amazing. 1232 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 4: I really liked it. I never played the five, so 1233 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,639 Speaker 4: I just downloaded it. It was on the Game Pass 1234 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 4: for free, so I just did it and I've been 1235 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 4: playing it yet. I also do some I've been I 1236 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,640 Speaker 4: haven't been doing a lot of that now, but I 1237 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 4: do a lot of photography and video editing. My computer 1238 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 4: is messed up and I need to save up either 1239 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,599 Speaker 4: to fix it or to buy a new one. 1240 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad to hear that your job is very 1241 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,559 Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds easy. It sounds if I think 1242 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,599 Speaker 1: if you were able to talk to me twenty four 1243 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 1: minutes and nobody's bothered you, your job sounds like it's 1244 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 1: pretty chill, So I'm happy to hear that. 1245 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm also glad that I found this. The other 1246 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 4: job that I had was hectic. It was like in 1247 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,800 Speaker 4: the warehouse, it was cold, it was like I was 1248 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 4: twelve hours of a day. Sometimes it was a little 1249 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 4: messed up. This one is way way chiller. 1250 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1251 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,040 Speaker 4: I just need to get my computer fixed so I 1252 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,759 Speaker 4: can work on some stuff while i'm here, because otherwise 1253 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,560 Speaker 4: I get very very bored sometimes. 1254 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,439 Speaker 1: What kind of videos are you editing? 1255 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:37,439 Speaker 2: Just? 1256 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 4: Nothing is in specific. For example, I have a video 1257 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,599 Speaker 4: that I liked that somebody did and I downloaded it 1258 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,160 Speaker 4: and I tried to train my editing skills on that 1259 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,400 Speaker 4: video and do something that I like with it. You know, 1260 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 4: it's nothing. It's just for fun, honestly. 1261 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 1: Well, well listen, Bruno, what it's like the You ever 1262 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:00,639 Speaker 1: seen the movie Bruno? 1263 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:03,920 Speaker 2: Yes? I did. 1264 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 4: When I was in in like the fifth grade. I 1265 01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 4: was when that movie came out. I was pointed at 1266 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,680 Speaker 4: a lot, you know. 1267 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:14,599 Speaker 2: What I mean. 1268 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, movie probably ruined your life. Well, Bruno, it's been nice. 1269 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 1: It's been nice talking to you. Man. Is is there 1270 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 1: anything else that? Is there anything else that you want 1271 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,559 Speaker 1: out of this conversation? That I can provide for you 1272 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 1: before we go. 1273 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,840 Speaker 4: No, what what you could provide that I wanted you 1274 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,439 Speaker 4: already did. I just wanted to give you a huge 1275 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 4: shout out for the company you kept me in that 1276 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,680 Speaker 4: first year. Thank you here in the Netherlands. And uh, 1277 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 4: You're an amazing person. I hear you constantly through my 1278 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,800 Speaker 4: headphones and I've been looking forward for this moment for 1279 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,599 Speaker 4: a long ass time. So I'm glad I finally got 1280 01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,600 Speaker 4: to talk to you. And if you ever come to 1281 01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 4: answer them again, I will definitely go to your show. 1282 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, man, that's good to know. If I ever 1283 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 1: do come back. 1284 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,320 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, because last time you were here, I wasn't 1285 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,200 Speaker 4: able to buy the tickets. I was again, I was 1286 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,640 Speaker 4: working that shitty job. I had no time, so I 1287 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,639 Speaker 4: couldn't go. Yeah, but if you come again, front Row, 1288 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:16,880 Speaker 4: I'm there, trust. 1289 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,400 Speaker 1: Beautiful, beautiful. Okay, Well, hopefully I'll see you that. 1290 01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,240 Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, I hope, I hope. I hope too. 1291 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 1: So sorry, I'll cut you around the universe, Bruno. Good luck, 1292 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,840 Speaker 1: good luck with the rest. I hope nobody continues to 1293 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,839 Speaker 1: come into the hotel so you don't have to do anything. 1294 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 4: Well until now, there's just some people having dinner and 1295 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 4: that's it. Yeah, thank Bruno, take care but bye, but 1296 01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 4: buye people of the computer. 1297 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,439 Speaker 1: That was Bruno. What a nice guy. What a nice 1298 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:58,439 Speaker 1: guy hanging out in Amsterdam at a hotel. The Europeans, man, 1299 01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 1: they got, they got a much better work culture than us. 1300 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:06,560 Speaker 1: I got the Japanese and the Americans have shit work cultures, 1301 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,639 Speaker 1: and then you got you got Europeans who just though 1302 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 1: don't have to do anything, it's pretty cool, goes on the. 1303 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,960 Speaker 4: Line taking your phone calls every night, never goes do 1304 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:19,639 Speaker 4: what his ride. 1305 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 1: He's teaching you cloud in 1306 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:25,160 Speaker 4: Them of your life, but he's not really an expert.