1 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Pushkin too quick. 2 00:00:19,240 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: No, it's perfect push kit stuff. 3 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: You got it, Take one and see one. 4 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 2: Robert Smith. I'm gonna start with this. Thomas Edison did 5 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: not invent. 6 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: The light bulb, killing me here. 7 00:00:43,239 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: You knew this. I did doubt this, Yeah, I mean 8 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: he improved it, right, But by the time he got 9 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: to work on the light bulb, this is like late 10 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: eighteen seventies. People had been working on incandescent bulbs for 11 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: a long time, right, for decades, but there was a problem, right, 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: nobody could figure out how to make a light bulb 13 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: that lasted, that lasted long enough to be a thing 14 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: people would actually use. And the key kind of limiting 15 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: factor was the filament, the thing in the bulb that 16 00:01:08,759 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: heats up and glows. Right, And so the base there's 17 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: a question is what thing can you use? What material 18 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: is cheap and abundant, and we'll make a good filament. 19 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: This is the canonical Edison story right here, right. If 20 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: you know one Thomas Edison story, you know the story 21 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: of Edison search for the right filament. He's in Menlo Park, right, 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: He's got the invention factory that we talked about last time. 23 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,639 Speaker 2: He's got his muckers around him. 24 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: Filled with materials, test tubes, everything you can need for invention. 25 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: They are trying literally thousands and thousands of things to 26 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 2: see what will work as a filament. 27 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: Here's a partial list from the Edmund Morris Edison biography 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: of things that they tried inside the light bulb. Sassafras, pith, monkey, 29 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: bast I think it's a tree, some tree, ginger root, pomegranate, 30 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: pl oh if only are modern technology is based on pomegranates, 31 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 1: eucalyped to, cinnamon bark, palm fronds, jute boiled in maple syrup. 32 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: How you even come up with that? You're like, jut's 33 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: not you didn't work? What if we go? Like I 34 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 1: got an idea macaroni and asked fault. There was also 35 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: this moment apparently where a few people on Edison's team 36 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: used hair from their beards as filaments. You know, they 37 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: had the long beards and they're like, I don't know, 38 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: maybe maybe my hair will be the one that solves 39 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: this problem. They take bets on whose would last the longest. 40 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 2: It would have been amazing if one guy's beard hair worked, 41 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: But then what do you do if it's just like 42 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: just his hair? 43 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: You're like, bro, we got to industrialize your man. 44 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: So they do eventually find the thing, right, as we know, 45 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: and it's carbonized bamboo. 46 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: I did not know that. 47 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: And they make a prototype bulb with the filament of 48 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: carbonized bamboo and it lasts for one thousand, five hundred 49 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: and eighty nine hours. It's a winner, right, This is 50 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: long enough to make a light bulb that's gonna work. 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: And it finally burns out. And a guy in the 52 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: lab his you know, sees marks the time he takes 53 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: the bulb and he rushes upstairs to Edison to say, 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: we've got it, you know, a little light bulb above 55 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: his head. Idea, right, And and they all apparently like 56 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: start dancing around, go outside, dancing to the night because 57 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: they have succeeded. 58 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: In the darkness, mind you, because the light bulb it 59 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: just burned out so beautiful. 60 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: And so on January twenty seventh, eighteen eighty, Thomas Edison 61 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: is granted patent two two three eight nine eight. And 62 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: this patent is just called Gloriously Electric Lamp. And this 63 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: is Thomas Edison again not inventing the light bulb, right, 64 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: but improving it. 65 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: But the thing I. 66 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: Want to say about this canonical Edison light bulb story 67 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: is the light bulb in the Thomas Edison story is 68 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: way overrated. There's another patent that he applied for around 69 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: the same time it was granted later that I think 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: is much more important, much more telling, much more at 71 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: the center of today's story, and that is Patent number 72 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: three six' nine two eight Zero system Of Electrical. 73 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Distribution the. Grid the, grid the electrical grid the big. 74 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 2: Idea. 75 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: Right the light bulb is the small idea of the, 76 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: bamboo but the grid is what will Change. 77 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: America and really, strikingly this is What edison is thinking 78 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: about from the very. Beginning it's clear from the historical. 79 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: Record before he even gets anywhere with the, bulb he's 80 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: already imagining electrifying the. World I'm Jacob goldstein. 81 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: And I'm Robert, smith and this Is Business, history a 82 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: show about the history of. Business this is our second 83 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: of three shows About Thomas. Edison last, time you may, 84 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: remember he built his invention factory on a hill and 85 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: he created the. Phonograph wasn't the first to bring it to, 86 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: market but still a, miracle and he became famous as 87 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: The wizard Of Menlo. 88 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: Park and so today we Find, edison still in his early, 89 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: thirties still a young, man a mere, boy and he's 90 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: thinking much bigger than the phonograph, now, Right he's not 91 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: thinking about a light. Bulb he is thinking about how 92 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: to power a city with a million light. Bulbs he's 93 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: thinking about how big electric power can be beyond the light. 94 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: Bulb electricity is going to be the transformative tech achnology 95 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: for the next one hundred years. 96 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: Ish and yet at a really crucial, Moment edison is 97 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: going to make a fundamental, mistake a classic business kind of, 98 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: mistake and this mistake is going to get him into 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 1: a public and really a really a gruesome. Fight people 100 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: call it The war of The, currents gets, personal gets, 101 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: ugly And, edison maybe for the first time in his, 102 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: life is going to. 103 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: Lose edison has this idea for the light bulb and 104 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: for the, grid and this idea presents a really, particular 105 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: really interesting kind of problem in, innovation, Right, like you 106 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: can come up with the new, idea you can build 107 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 2: the perfect, prototype a perfect light, bulb but the first, 108 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: locomotive you, know an electric vehicle that people are actually 109 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: might want to, Buy but nobody's going to buy a light, 110 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: bulb or a locomotive or an, evy no matter how 111 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: beautiful and perfect they, are unless there is this infrastructure 112 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: built around. Them. Right for a light bulb you need 113 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: an electric. Grid for a lot so, comotive you need 114 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: hundreds of miles of railroad. Tracks for an ev you 115 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: need charging stations all around the. 116 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: Country and we call this the network effect at business. 117 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: School it's the classic, like no one wants to join 118 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: a social network with only one person on. 119 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: It, yes and at least with a social, network it's just, software, 120 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: right like you can if you can get people, going 121 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: it can. Build but in this, case in the case 122 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: of the light bulb and the, grid even if everybody 123 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: buys a light, bulb that's still not enough money to 124 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: build the. Grid, right there is this chicken and egg, 125 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: problem which is you need the money first to build 126 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: the infrastructure so that people will buy the light. 127 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: Bulb and this is what finance was invented for large 128 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: amounts of, money capital that can be invested for a future. 129 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: Outcome So edison wants to build his grid In Lower, manhattan, 130 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: right this is the densest area of The United states 131 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: at this. Point wants to dig up the streets and lay, 132 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: wires build these giant dynamos to generate electricity for, everyone 133 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: and the cost at the time just must have been. 134 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: Enormous but fortunately For, edison he knows a very rich, 135 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: person a financier whose office is right in the middle 136 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: of where the grid is, going not a, coincidence and 137 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 1: he's a massing power on this scale never before seen 138 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: in The United states Of. America this MAN Jp, Morgan oh, 139 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: Man i'm just gonna do a big reveal, It John Pierrepont, 140 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: MORGAN i was gonna do it in that, Voice, Okay, 141 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: YEAH Jp, morgan banker who created Modern american. Economy right 142 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: at the, Time america didn't have a central, bank AND 143 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: Jp morgan sort of acted as This he was this, 144 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: conduit the center of the spokes of all the money 145 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: and power in The United. States it went THROUGH Jp, 146 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: morgan AND Jp, morgan like billionaires, everywhere loved to be 147 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: the first to get a new. Technology and he loved 148 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: the electric. Light there's this story actually HE Jp morgan 149 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: had this mansion right in the middle Of, manhattan Of Midtown, 150 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: manhattan essentially right and he wanted to have, lights these 151 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: new electric. Lights but there wasn't a grid at the. 152 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: Time and just to go back a little, bit electric 153 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: generators had been around for a, while you, know probably 154 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: fifty years at this, Point Michael. Faraday and you, know 155 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: it's a way a mortar goes and it moves a 156 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: magnet next to a wire and it creates electric, current 157 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: but has to be very close to the electric. Light 158 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: so in order to get electric lights in his, mansion 159 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: he had to also have a. Generator and this meant 160 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 1: he had to hire somebody to run the. Generator and 161 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: this person would come at three o'clock in the, afternoon 162 00:08:42,079 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: rank up or however they started the, generator the lights 163 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: would go on in the. House AND i just picture 164 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: eight nine, o'clock this single glowing house in the middle Of. 165 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: Manhattan everyone else has the flickering gas, lights but you've 166 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: got this bright electric light in the middle Of. Manhattan 167 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: and then at eleven o'clock and she was, like, yeah 168 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: turn it off the, engine turn it off and goes, 169 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: home like this was such a pain in the ass 170 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: that only the richest man In america could have this 171 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: kind of. 172 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: System. 173 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: Right in, fact at one POINT i guess he wired 174 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: up some of the light MPs on his. Desk if 175 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: someone did it for, him and it started a fire 176 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: and they put out the fire and they're, LIKE i don't, 177 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: know this is kind of, weird like for you to 178 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: have this dangerous technology like running through your. Home and he's, like, 179 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: eh it's. 180 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: Fine So morgan becomes the key backer Of Thomas edison 181 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: and his dream of building a, grid And morgan gets 182 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: the money. 183 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: Together that's what he. 184 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: Does he finances this essential, infrastructure And edison makes it. 185 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: Happen you, know. 186 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: His team digs up the streets all around The Lower. 187 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: Manhattan they put the wires. In edison builds this power 188 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: station On Pearl, street and, amazingly the whole thing from 189 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: like the time he gets the idea until it's ready 190 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: to go is four, years which, like what could you 191 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: build In New york? Today had four? 192 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: Years we used to build things in this. Country it's, 193 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: True it's. 194 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: True, Okay So september, fourth eighteen eighty, two we are. 195 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: Ready edison is ready to turn on the. Power tell 196 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: me there's one of those giant, switches you, know LIKE 197 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: i think there is a jump. Switch. Yeah, interestingly, Interestingly 198 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: edison is not the man to pull. It in, fact 199 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 2: he's not even at this power station that he has. 200 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: Built he's a few blocks away the office Of, morgan. 201 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: Right the real power. 202 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: Situation, Right, yeah So edison is At morgan's office On Wall. 203 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: Street the power' is supposed to go on at three 204 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: in the. 205 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: Afternoon you, know there's light bulbs screwed into sockets all 206 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: around the, office and you, know there's all these fancy 207 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: people standing there waiting for the lights to go, on 208 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: and it's almost three and nobody's ever done this, before 209 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: so it's not even clear if it's going to. Work, 210 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,599 Speaker 2: Right they're standing there thinking are the lights going to 211 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: go on in a minute or? Not and a guy 212 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: goes one hundred dollars says they don't go, on, schmuck 213 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: And edison goes. Taken and then the lights go. On, 214 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: whoo it, works gets this hundred bucks and they go, 215 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: on you. 216 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: Know around the. 217 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: Neighborhood they go on around this, neighborhood around the power. 218 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: Station but it's not like all Of, manhattan, Right this 219 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: power plant is big enough to light up like a. 220 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: Mile it's not even a square mile at the, beginning 221 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: but that's about the limit of. It and this is 222 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: really important because it's not just because this is like. 223 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: A prototype or. 224 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: Something it's inherent to the technology That edison is, using and, 225 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: specifically specifically he's generating direct current OR dc. Power and 226 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: for sort of basic, reasons you couldn't SEND dc power 227 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: much more than a mile from from where it was. 228 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: Generated, now of, course at this point we could, say, 229 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: oh it's we don't want to get the whole COMPLICATED 230 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: ac VERSUS dc. Two we do want to SO dc 231 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: direct CURRENT i like to think of as blowing air 232 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: through a, straw. Right electrons are moving through a wire 233 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: in a straight, line, Essentially and anyone who's been a 234 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: kid has probably built something with a little little light 235 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: bulb and two wires and a battery that is a 236 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: direct current and battery battery is direct. 237 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 2: Current today when you have a battery that is sending direct. 238 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: Current but there is a different kind of power called 239 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: alternating CURRENT. Ac and this is kind of a genius, move. 240 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: Right you want electrons to move in the. Wire that's 241 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: what creates the, work but nothing says it has to 242 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: go in one particular. Direction it works if you send 243 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: the electrons in the opposite, direction or it works if 244 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: the electrons kind of go back and. Forth that's the alternating, 245 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: hoo it does just as much. WORK i saw something 246 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: on the, internet AND i love this idea of a. 247 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: Saw like a saw does not go in one. Direction 248 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: a saw goes back and. Forth but if you do it, 249 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: enough you can saw through a. Log, Right so we 250 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: have the there through the straw of the direct current 251 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: and the saw the alternating. Current, sure and there's one 252 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: quality OF ac that is going to be essential, here 253 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: and that is this thing we're talking about about the. 254 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: Distance so in the nature OF, ac you can basically 255 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: run it at really high, voltages like really high dangerous. 256 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: Voltages and the way it works is you could send 257 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: those vultage is over wires for, miles hundreds of miles, 258 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: really and then you use something called a transformer to 259 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: step that power down to something. Useful but those transmission, 260 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: lines the one you see all over the country, now 261 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: like the transmission line is the key. Here they run 262 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: an alternating. Current they can go for amazing, distances and 263 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: so then you have this trade, off right like, like, well, 264 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: okay high, power high, voltage really, dangerous THAT'S. Ac but 265 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: it goes a long, way or you could go a 266 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: shorter distance at a lower. Voltage it's much. Safer And Thomas, 267 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: EDISON i don't, know maybe because he's a good, guy 268 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: or maybe because he just thinks he can build millions 269 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: of power, stations you, know local power. Stations Thinks i'm 270 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: gonna go WITH. Dc it is the safe and reasonable 271 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: thing to do. Here not everybody makes that choice. 272 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: Though right In europe in, particular they start experimenting WITH 273 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: ac systems pretty. Early and this industrialist in THE us 274 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: Named Jorge Orge westinghouse sees. This, right he reads the, 275 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: journals he keeps up with, technology And westinghouse is going 276 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: to become the acy guy In. America and Westing house is. 277 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: INTERESTING i didn't really know about him before. 278 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: This had his name on appliances on a famous science. Prize, 279 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: yes that's That. 280 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: Westinghouse so he was, like he's kind of like a 281 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,359 Speaker 2: second tier, industrialist, Right like he's not like A vanderbilt 282 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: or A. Carnegie but he was a big. Deal then 283 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: invented an air brake for trains that was his first. 284 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: Thing has a company In, pittsburgh and like seems, like 285 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: at least as far as sort of robber barons, go 286 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: seems like a decent guy and gave Workers saturday afternoons 287 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: off as well As sunday and a nine hour, day 288 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: which at the time was like pretty. Good he hired 289 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: women as engineers when basically nobody else. 290 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: Did and so in eighteen. 291 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: Eighty, five which is three years After edison turned on 292 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: the power In, Manhattan westinghouse buys THE us rights to 293 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: THIS ac system that they've been working on In, europe. 294 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: And he knows what is now sort of this fundamental canon, 295 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: business which is just because you're first doesn't mean you're 296 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: going to. Win like you see the power That edison 297 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: had and you're, like, WELL i think there's a better. 298 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: System they can Beat. Edison now That edison is sort 299 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: of demonstrated that a grid is, possible let me show 300 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: you what a giant grid would look. Like, yeah SO 301 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: ac has this advantage giant. 302 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: Grid it does still have one disadvantage That westinghouse is 303 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: acutely aware, of and that is. Motors, Right like we 304 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: start with the light. Bulb but as we were saying 305 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: at the, beginning like electricity is going to be this 306 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: transformative what's the Word i'm looking, For. 307 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: Like you MEAN gpt general purpose TECHNOLOGY. 308 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: Q electricity is going to be this general purpose technology like, Computers, 309 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: right it's going to be this thing that changes, everything 310 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: and people are starting to realize, that and in particular 311 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: they're realizing that electric motors are going to be a 312 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: huge deal for. Industry you, know the steam engine at 313 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: this point is like one hundred years old or, so the, 314 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: useful widely applied steam, engine, right it was the driver 315 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: of the industrial revolution that allowed people to make better, 316 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: factories more widely distributed at powered trains and. Boats and 317 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: so now you, see, oh the motor's going to be even. 318 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: Better the electric motor is smaller than a steam, engine 319 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: it's more, efficient you can put it around the factory 320 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: wherever you need. It but at this point in the eighteen, 321 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: eighties there ARE dc, motors but there are no sort 322 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: of practical EFFICIENT ac. Motors And westinghouse KNOWS ac is 323 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: not going to BEAT dc without a. Motor fortunately For, 324 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: westinghouse he's about to meet one of the great electrical 325 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: geniuses of the. 326 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: Age really of any. Age you're going to save it 327 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: till after the, break we should say it, Now Nikola, 328 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: tesla man who went to work For edison and then 329 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: quit after the. 330 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 4: Break Robert, Smith let's tell me About Nikola. 331 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: Tesla Nikola tesla beloved by nerds, everywhere classic serbian. Weirdo 332 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: such a weird, guy, poet, genius and he comes into this. 333 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: Story you have the little Frumpy Thomas. Edison you, know 334 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: he loved to dress in country where you, know lived 335 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: out there In farmville In New. Jersey you, know just 336 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: a Classic american good. Guy and into this picture good 337 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: Comes Nikola, tesla six foot, two gray blue, eyes beautiful, 338 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: mustache and he had these weird personality. Traits for, instance 339 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: he loved the number. Three he felt like the number 340 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: three was mystical in some, way so before he'd go 341 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: into a, building he'd have to walk around it three. Times. 342 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: Okay so he fell in love with electricity as a. 343 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 1: Toddler so the story goes when he was petting his 344 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: cat in the evening and he saw these bright sparks 345 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: going between his hand and the cat right and his mom, says, 346 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: hey stop playing with the, cat you'll start a. Fire 347 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: And tesla, thinks electricity fire is nature a giant cat 348 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: and if, so who strokes its, back it can only Be. 349 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: GOD i love him so. Much so he grows up 350 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: studies electricity In budapest and one day he's walking in 351 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: the park with a, friend and he has this inspiration 352 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: and he picks up a, stick and in the dirt 353 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: he draws the solution to the big, problem AN ac, 354 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: motor a, beautiful EFFICIENT ac, motor like a True eureka, 355 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: Moment And tesla says to his, friend no more will 356 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: men be slaves to hard. Tasks my motor will set them, 357 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: free will do the work of the. 358 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 2: World it's one of those lines that if it was somebody, 359 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: ELSE i wouldn't believe that the guy said. It BUT 360 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: i feel Like tesla is totally the guy who says. 361 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: THAT i think he speaks in complete cryptic poetic. 362 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 2: SENTENCES i bet he said that all the time about his. 363 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: Inventions, yeah it just happens to be the one that's, 364 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: true right every time you op it's a. Door he, goes, 365 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: now men will no longer be slaves the hard. Tasks 366 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: men will no longer have to open. Doors so he 367 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: makes it to THE us and he does what anyone 368 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: would do in this. Situation he goes to work For. 369 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: Edison he's, Like edison's the, guy, Right But edison is 370 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: not interested In TESLA'S ac motor Because edison has already 371 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: made his mental decision that he is A dc. Man 372 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: So tesla, quits gets a little, funding gets a patent 373 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: on HIS ac, motor and pretty soon who comes knocking 374 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: At tesla's. Door George. Westinghouse So George. Westinghouse remember he's 375 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: seen THE ac In. Europe he thinks that this is 376 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: going to be the. Answer so he Pays tesla seventy 377 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in cash what enormous amount at the, time, 378 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: right and royalties on every Future tesla. Motor they're already 379 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: calling It tesla. Motor The westinghouse sells And Nikola. Tesla 380 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: you know he carefully saves and invests at seventy thousand 381 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: dollars in. Cash, no he does. Not he is A 382 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: serbian poet. Genius he starts to spend. It. Right he 383 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: moves into The Waldorf, astoria the fanciest hotel In New 384 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: york at the. Time he wears tailored. Suits he eats 385 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: dinner every night At. DELMONICO'S i think it's like precisely 386 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: at eight. Ten why nobody knows he has eighteen napkins 387 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: delivered to. HIM a little bit of a. Germophobe was 388 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: eighteen's divisible by, three and he becomes this, celebrity, right 389 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: people Like Mark twain come to hang out In tesla's 390 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: lab just to watch the electricity, fly the lightning bolts 391 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: across the. Room, meanwhile across The Hudson river In. 392 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: New, jersey Boring, edison our main character come. 393 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: On, okay huge history. 394 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: Of business and, technology and he is seeing his lead. 395 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: Diminish. 396 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: Right he was first in the world with the, grid 397 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: with HIS dc, grid but Now westinghouse AND Ac power 398 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: are catching. Up and there's this interesting, question, right, like 399 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: Is edison only TEAM dc because that's what his patents, 400 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: are you, know, strongest and that's where he. 401 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: Started or does he really believe THAT ac is? 402 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 2: Dangerous AND i think he really BELIEVED ac is. Dangerous 403 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: now maybe it's motivated, reasoning, Right, no. 404 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: BUT i THINK i think because he sees farther than most. 405 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: PEOPLE i think that what he saw was these wires 406 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 1: will go into every, home every, business under every. Street 407 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: it will be on every street, corner. Huh and so 408 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: he could probably see that, like this will be the 409 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: technology that people will directly interact, with and why not 410 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: make it? 411 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: Safe and it is the case around this time that 412 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 2: there are these instances, where, like you, know a kid 413 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: will accidentally touch a down TO ac wire and die 414 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 2: like that happens, routinely and in, fact a given, VOLTAGE 415 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: ac is more dangerous THAN dc in part kind of 416 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: amazingly because the nature OF ac and the human body 417 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 2: is such that if you, accidentally like grab AN ac, 418 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: wire something about the alternating current can like freeze your 419 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: muscles so that you cannot let go and you just 420 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: hold it until you. Die So edison feels like he 421 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: needs to tell the world about the dangers of alternating, 422 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 2: current and he starts to attack not JUST ac But. 423 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: Westinghouse it starts In february of eighteen eighty. Eight he 424 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: publishes a booklet first. 425 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: Shot in The war of The. 426 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: Currents the booklet is CALLED A warning from The Edison 427 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 2: Electric Light, company. 428 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: Eighty eight pages. 429 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: Long eighty eight page is long a, novella let's, say 430 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 2: and it lays out all the REASONS ac is, bad like, 431 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: yes the, danger but Also edison says he owns all 432 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 2: the relevant patents and so look, Out i'm gonna shut you. 433 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: Down and also he points out that Still westinghouse hasn't 434 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: figured out how to reliably produce AN ac, motor like 435 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: he's you, know working on Producing tesla's. Idea but it's 436 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 2: still in. 437 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: Progress but the booklet is just the. Beginning and Imagine, 438 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: edison you, know he sees the. Dangers he fears that 439 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: he is, losing and so he starts TO i would, 440 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: say go too, far. Right he secretly sponsors a guy 441 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: who does these public displays that goes to you, know college, 442 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: campuses you, know as a public service announcement about DEADLY ac. 443 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: Power Harold brown is his, Name and he gets up 444 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: on the stage and he reads a paper about the 445 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: virtues OF dc and the dangers OF. Ac but all 446 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: the time he's, reading the audience can see there is 447 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: a dog cowering in a wooden. Crate one time it 448 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: was a seventy six Pound, newfoundland, right so like this 449 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: is why people have. Gathered at one, Point brown turns 450 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: his attention to the. Dog to The, newfoundland he hooks 451 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: wires to its back legs and front, paws and he 452 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: starts delivering jolts OF ace and THEN dc power back and. 453 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: Forth and then Eventually brown administers a deadly jolt OF 454 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: ac and dog, dies proving he says to the crowd 455 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: that you, KNOW ac is more Deadly in, Secret Apparently 456 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: edison Let brown like do experiments on, dogs offering a 457 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: reward for people to bring stray dogs to. Execute you. 458 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: Know it was drawing, crowds but it wasn't quite. Working 459 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: so they start to use ac to electrocute calves horses 460 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: just to show, you, like this is so. Dangerous it 461 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: can take down an animal larger than a. 462 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 2: Human and then they go from animals to. People what 463 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: happens is the state Of New. York someone in the 464 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: state government Of New york decides that the state needs 465 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: to modernize the way it executes convicted. Criminals they'd been 466 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: using hanging death by, hanging which apparently goes wrong more 467 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 2: THAN i. Thought it's harder to hang people THAN i. 468 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: Thought and so somebody, thinks, oh, well, electricity that's this, 469 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: new you, know high tech. Thing maybe that will work. 470 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 2: Better and so somebody writes To, edison you, know the 471 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: wizard Of Mello, park the expert on, electricity and says 472 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: should we use electricity for state? Executions and Initially edison, SAYS. 473 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: I oppose capital. 474 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: Punishment don't bother me about, this let me go andvent. 475 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: Things but then he thinks about it some, more and 476 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: he gets back to, him and he, says, yes electricity could. 477 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: Work oh and by the, way it should definitely be alternating. 478 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: Current and he even writes a letter where he says 479 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: state should buy generators that are quote alternating machines manufactured 480 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: principally in this country By George westinghouse. 481 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: Says it by. NAME i can't believe, it and it 482 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: does make me sad BECAUSE i Know edison is the 483 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: hero of the, story as he is for this whole, 484 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: series and generally so far we've seen him make i would, 485 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: say pretty moral decisions about his, technology, Right AND i 486 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: mean that's his whole, vibe LIKE i am bringing magic 487 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: to the world to make every one better. Off and 488 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: this is one of those instances where maybe he's talked 489 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: himself into it that this is the right thing to. 490 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: Do maybe he thinks THAT i can't bully my way 491 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: out of this with lawyers and. Patents but this is 492 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: the first Time i've seen him really go after a 493 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 1: competitor in a way that is. 494 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: Vicious it's, bad, Right it's. Bad New york Takes edison's. 495 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: Advice of, Course westinghouse isn't going to sell The state 496 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 2: Of New york, generators but they actually buy Used westinghouse, 497 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: generators and they build a few electric, chairs the first electric. 498 00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: Chairs and On march twenty ninth of eighteen eighty, nine 499 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: a man Named William, kemmler Who The New York times 500 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: calls an alcoholic vegetable peddler in the slums Of. Buffalo 501 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: he wakes up from a drinking, binge starts arguing with his, 502 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: Girlfriend Matilda, ziggler accuses her of cheating on, him and, 503 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: then according to The, times when the argument reached a, 504 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: Peak kemler calmly went to the, barn grabbed a hatchet 505 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 2: and returned to the house and he Killed Matilda giggler 506 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 2: with the. Hatchet it's pretty. 507 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: Clear he did. It he says he did. 508 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: It there's a lot of evidence that he did, it 509 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: and he's convicted and he's sentenced to, death and he's 510 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: on his way to being the first person ever executed 511 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: by the state with. Electricity in, fact somebody invents the 512 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: word electrocution right around this. Time but of Course westinghouse 513 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: doesn't want this to. Happen he doesn't want his machines 514 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: killing a man in this very public, way and So 515 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 2: westinghouse hires a. Lawyer this really famous lawyer to Defend 516 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: kemler to argue in particular that killing someone in the 517 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: electric chair is cruel and unusual. Punishment by the, way 518 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: the electric chair was actually invented by a by A 519 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 2: New york dentist who happened to be a, quicker and 520 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: he had seen someone accidentally touch a generator and be instantly, 521 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 2: killed and he, thought, oh this would be a more 522 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: humane alternative to. Hanging so, anyway On july twenty, third 523 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: eighteen eighty, Nine edison is called to testify in this 524 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: case over whether killing someone in an electric chair is 525 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: cruel and unusual. Punishment, edison AS i mentioned in the previous, 526 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: episode is largely. Deaf he goes into testify and the 527 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: lawyer basically has to like yell Into edison's good year 528 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: So edison can hear the. Question The New York times 529 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: said you could hear it from the, street though maybe 530 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: that's poetic. 531 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: License here we have the transcript. Here the lawyer, SAYS 532 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: i went to the yelling. Part do you believe that 533 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: an artificial current can be produced which will cause death 534 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: instantly and painlessly when scientifically? Applied And edison, says that 535 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: is my firm belief his. Exchange his testimony runs in 536 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: The New York, times the headline testimony of The, wizard 537 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: and then the subhead, says he is positive that an 538 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: alternating current of one thousand volts would surely kill a. 539 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: Man can't buy that kind of. Publicity you Anti. 540 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: Edison tried to buy, it but in this case they 541 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: didn't have to buy. It and in, Fact kemler loses the. 542 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: Case the judge says the state can execute him in 543 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: the electric. 544 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: Chair and so the day. 545 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: Comes It's august, sixth eighteen. Ninety kemler gets woken up 546 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: at five, am puts on a suit as a black 547 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: and white check bow. Tie they shave part of his 548 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: head so that they can put an electrode, there you, 549 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: know to make contact with the. Skin at the last, 550 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: minute actually the worden has to cut Through kemmler's like 551 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: shirt tail so that their electrode can make contact with his. 552 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: Back And kemler seems. Collected the warden seems. Nervous, actually 553 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: the warden seems kind of, shaky But kemler's. Collected kemler 554 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: actually says to the, warden take your, time do it, 555 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 2: right and the warden attaches the electrodes Straps kemler's arms 556 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: to the. Chair he actually puts this sort of leather 557 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: mask On kemler's face that straps his head back into the. 558 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: Chair and then the warden says Goodbye, william which is the. 559 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: Signal it's the signal for someone to turn on the 560 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: power to the, chair and they do. That they turn 561 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: on the. Power kemler's body goes, rigid just like a bronze, 562 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: statue somebody, Said and they leave the power on for seventeen, 563 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: seconds and there's a doctor standing right there monitoring, it 564 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: and he says he's. Dead that's, enough and they turn 565 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: off the power and power goes, off and then they 566 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: look At kemmler and they see that he's still. Breathing 567 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: oh he's not. Dead people start. Screaming someone. Faints so 568 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: they turn on the power, again and this time they 569 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: leave it, on not for seventeen, seconds but for several. 570 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: Minutes it Burns kemler's. Flesh you can smell. It apparently 571 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: in the. Room his clothes catch on fire and somebody 572 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: puts it, out and then finally they turn off the, 573 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: power and this Time kemeler is. Dead and that dentist 574 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: who invented the electric chair. Was in, fact one of 575 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: the witnesses was in the room at the, time and 576 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: after it was, over what he said, was, quote we 577 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: live in a higher civilization from this. 578 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: Day business history will be back in a. 579 00:31:36,680 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: Moment that is the end of the. Ads and now 580 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: we're going back to the. Show kemmler has been, executed 581 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: and in fact his death is on the front page 582 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 2: of newspapers around the, country all talking about how horrible it. 583 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: Was but the news doesn't have the effect on public 584 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: opinion That edison frankly hoped it. Would. Right everybody doesn't suddenly, say, 585 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: oh we can't HAVE ac, power it's obviously too. Dangerous 586 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: they basically just, said oh, yeah do not strap me 587 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: into a chair and run a thousand volts OF ac 588 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 2: power through my. 589 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: Body and you, know in, fact the key audience here. 590 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: Is not the mass, public, right it's the government officials 591 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: who are the ones deciding what kind of of power, 592 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 2: plant what kind of power system to. 593 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: Buy, yeah and you don't want to have to build 594 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: A dc power plant every six or seven, blocks like you, Think, 595 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: WELL i can just put one big power plants and 596 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: the high power transmission lines out and we'll put safety 597 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: measures in. Effect so it kind of makes sense that 598 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: if you're thinking of it that, way you are going 599 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: to go with the more efficient. 600 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: Option and the last big moment in the, fight how 601 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: is It Niagara? Falls, actually by, way how many a's 602 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: are there At? Niagara? 603 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: Three? Two It's? Niagara, OKAY i didn't. 604 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: KNOW i kept spelling it, wrong AND i get the 605 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: little line In google docs It's. Niagara so the final 606 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: moment in the in The war of the, currents it 607 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: happens At Niagra. Falls because you, know they're like these 608 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: businessmen and bankers looking at this beautiful falls and, thinking 609 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: look at all that kinetic. Energy we could definitely spend some. Turbises, yeah, 610 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: Right so they decide they're going to build what is by, 611 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: far by, far the biggest power plant in the. World 612 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: and so when they're making the, decision LIKE dc is 613 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: still a, Possibility, Actually Lord telvin Of absolute Zero phase, 614 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: says go. 615 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: WITH, dc but they go WITH. 616 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: A see they Use westinghouse, generators and it is really 617 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: striking what happens. There as soon as this is. Happening 618 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: as this is, happening big power intensive companies see that 619 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: it's happening and start moving their operations to be next 620 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: To Niagara, falls essentially like a striking one is The 621 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 2: Aluminum company Of america Al CoA Akal CoA takes a 622 00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: ton of electricity right, still right, still where aluminum plants 623 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: are around the world is where there is cheap electric, 624 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 2: power because that is the big expensive, input, right and 625 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 2: so cheap abundant power From Niagara falls and places like 626 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: it is truly what allows, aluminum for, example to become 627 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 2: this cheap, abundant essential twentieth century. Material you, know soda, 628 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: cans aluminum, siding, airplanes right this you need cheap electricity 629 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: to get. This and like go back to the beginning 630 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 2: of the, show right WHEN i was SAYING i don't 631 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: care about the light, BULB i care about the. Grid 632 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: this is What i'm talking, about, Right like what matters 633 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: is the. Grid what matters is, cheap, reliable abundant electric. 634 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 2: Power this is the Second Industrial. Revolution this is the 635 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: great transformation that creates the twentieth. Century and, like go even, bigger, 636 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: Right like human material progress for all time foundationally rests 637 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: on harnessing. Energy like you can go all the way 638 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: back to, fire the first big, one, right and then 639 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 2: you can go to The Industrial, revolution, right basically coal 640 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 2: and the steam engine are the bedrock of. It and 641 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: then now you have, electricity this next huge step function 642 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: in human material well. 643 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: Being and you can see because of the aluminum, plant 644 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: how cheap electricity makes aluminum, cheaper which makes cans cheaper 645 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: and eventually airplanes cheaper and all the things you build 646 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: out of. Aluminum you can see that fundamental efficiency travel 647 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: through the entire industrial. 648 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: System yes, everything, right all factories are going to switch 649 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: from steam power to electricity because it's. Better and it takes, 650 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 2: decades you see, it like well into the twentieth, century 651 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 2: you're still seeing productivity. 652 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: Gains that are the result of. 653 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 2: Electricity and now so we Have, edison, right this is 654 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 2: a story About, edison and he plays a super interesting 655 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: role in this, story, Right, like on the one, hand 656 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 2: he is the guy for, electricity builds the first real, 657 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: grid makes the, breakthrough makes it happen, fast and gets the. 658 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 2: Money but also right after that he bets wrong in 659 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: what like, frankly at least in, retrospect seems like a 660 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: pretty obvious, mistake Right, like he bets ON dc when 661 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: ac it seems clearly like it was the better. 662 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: Pick it's interesting one of the THINGS i love about 663 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: business history is that there's so much logic and numbers 664 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: in the whole, Thing but then there's always a moment 665 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: where ego steps, in AND i do think there, Is 666 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: like this is a man who has not fubbled the 667 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: ball for most of his, career mistakes the. Phonograph, yeah 668 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: but like he's like he's, famous you, know the most, 669 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: famous the most, famous and he's getting used to using 670 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: that fame to get exactly what he, wants and he 671 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: just steps one step too. Far, Yeah like he's too, attached, 672 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: Right like he was too in love with his original. 673 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: Idea and it is, Amazing Like edison was just so 674 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 2: focused ON dc Literally tesla was working for. Him tesla 675 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,919 Speaker 2: had the idea for THE ac, motor like it was right, 676 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 2: there But edison couldn't let go of his original. Idea 677 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 2: and this is like a classic business. STORY i couldn't 678 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: think of a like of a perfect. ANALOGY i, mean 679 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: like kind of Like sony With Beta, max which came BEFORE, 680 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 2: vhs but not. EXACTLY i mean one that's really, fun 681 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 2: if not exactly the, same but THAT i, like did 682 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 2: you know that in the year two, Thousand Blockbuster video 683 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: had the chance to Buy netflix for fifty million. 684 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: Dollars, oh could have SENT vhs tapes to the. 685 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 2: Mail, yeah, right so right at that, Time netflix was 686 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 2: DVDs by mail And blockbuster was, like that's some, weirdo 687 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: niche business for. Cinephiles you've got thousand video, stores we 688 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: make all this money on late. 689 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: Fees we're not gonna do. 690 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 2: It and it's easy to mock in retrospect when people 691 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 2: make these kind of. Mistakes but, like if You're, edison 692 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 2: to go back To edison, right in a, Way edison 693 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 2: maybe had to be so attached to his, idea, Right, 694 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 2: like think of what he's deciding to, do, right he's, 695 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: thinking not only AM i gonna perfect the light bulb 696 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: in a world where people have been working on it 697 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 2: for decades and haven't done, It i'm gonna build the 698 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 2: world's first grid when that doesn't. Exist i'm gonna dig 699 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 2: Up manhattan And i'm gonna do it in four. 700 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 1: Years. 701 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: Right so maybe to be that audacious you have to 702 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: be so full of confidence that you don't have any. 703 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 2: Doubt you know that you stick to beliefs even when you're. 704 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: Wrong when you have an invention and you're out there 705 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: competing on what's the best. Invention that's one. Thing but 706 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: when you're in one of these standards wars where you 707 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: realize there will only be one. Winner And edison was 708 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: probably familiar with, this you, know on the, railroad like 709 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: there has to be a certain width of the railroad, gauge, 710 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: right and like someone's going to win because it only 711 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: makes sense to have one. Winner and so you, know 712 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: we can debate his, reasons but it is logical to, 713 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: say if my confidence can make my standard, win Then 714 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: i'm going to show no doubt, whatsoever even when the 715 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: evidence is to the. 716 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 2: Contrary i'm going to be the winner who takes. All 717 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 2: so he didn't, win of, Course and in, fact even 718 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 2: before that power plant At niagara got, BUILT Jp, morgan you, 719 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 2: know the original guy who Made edison's power grid dream come. 720 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: TRUE Jp morgan saw saw which way the wind was. 721 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 2: BLOWING i thing he was good, at, right not a 722 00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 2: man who got emotionally. Attached and he Merged edison's, Company 723 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: Edison General, electric with another company Called Thompson, houston which 724 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 2: was in THE ac. Business of, Course edison hated the, deal, 725 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: Right he didn't want to be in business with a 726 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 2: company that was DOING ac but he lost control Of 727 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 2: Edison General electric by that, point and in, fact after the, 728 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 2: Merger Edison General electric became known as Just General electric 729 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: GE ge And edison basically walked. Away but the one, 730 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 2: thing like we're gonna Leave edison, here but the one 731 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 2: THING i want to, Say and this is kind of 732 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 2: setting him up for the next time when we'll talk 733 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 2: About edison's final big. Triumph edison didn't look back like 734 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 2: he always, thought the next thing is gonna be even, 735 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: bigger and he thought that at this. Point he thought 736 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,879 Speaker 2: that when he walked away From, Electricity and next time 737 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 2: we'll talk about what Was edison's last big, triumph which 738 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 2: was the, movies moving, pictures and specifically the Way edison 739 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 2: came to control the Entire american film industry despite the 740 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 2: fact that he did not invent the. 741 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: Movie, camera becoming his style right his. Style before we, 742 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: go we should talk about the end Of Nikola tesla's. Story, 743 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: tesla of, course was the man who could have Made 744 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: edison the ac. King we wouldn't be telling the story 745 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: in this. Case we would just be like he's a 746 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: genius all the way. Through edison too stubborn to. Listen 747 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: when we last Left. Tesla he had sold the rights 748 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 1: to HIS ac motor patent To George, westinghouse and he's 749 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: living the high life At delmonico's with his eighteen, napkins 750 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 1: hanging out With Mark. Twain and a key turning point 751 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: comes from a few years. Later it's eighteen ninety, one, 752 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 1: Right George westinghouse is in a little bit of financial. 753 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 1: Trouble he thinks he can. Win he thinks The tesla 754 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: motor still the, way but you, know cash, flow, right. 755 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 2: Financial crisis loves are getting called, in so he goes 756 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 2: to See, westinghouse goes to See tesla In New. 757 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: York and, Remember tesla's supposed to get a royalty on 758 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: every SINGLE ac motor That westinghouse, sells but at this 759 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: point they're still perfecting. It And westinghouse says To, tesla 760 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: will you give up your royalties SO i can keep 761 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: control of my company and keep developing your, motor And, 762 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: tesla according to his, autobiography says To, westinghouse Mister, westinghouse 763 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: you will save your company so that you can develop my. 764 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: Inventions here is your contract and here's my. CONTRACT i 765 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 1: will tear both of them to, pieces and you will 766 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: no longer have any troubles from my, royalties and he 767 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: tears the contract up again. 768 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 2: Because It's, TESLA i believe it legend right, right and. 769 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: A huge, mistake a, terrible terrible, mistake Because tesla would 770 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: go on to come up with other. Ideas he was 771 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: apparently working on how to transmit electricity through the, air 772 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: like to basically take the next leap beyond the, grid 773 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: built this giant tower out On Long. Island. Right there 774 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,720 Speaker 1: are stories about like did he, succeed like did it actually? 775 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: Happen but doesn't matter because the money wasn't, there, Right 776 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 1: none of his projects worked. Out he wasn't making. Money 777 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: he had to move out of The Waldorf astoria and 778 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,720 Speaker 1: into a cheaper. Hotel Hotel New yorker still stands room 779 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 1: three two two seven not divisible by three et check. 780 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 2: The last two numbers are that? Count he was he 781 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 2: was on such hard times that he couldn't even get 782 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 2: a room to. 783 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,479 Speaker 1: Visit he's, like do you have one two doors? Down 784 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: about one door down the other? Way there's a plaque 785 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: on the hotel room door to this. Day and in, 786 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: fact if you go to the basement of The New Yorker, 787 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: hotel you can see some of the personal effects that 788 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: he left in this. 789 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 2: Room but you have done, Yes that's WHY i haven't 790 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 2: done this. 791 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: Now it's just like Nick knacks and pictures of him 792 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: because at the, time like he was still this famous 793 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: genius and even before a certain person would name his 794 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: company after, Him, tesla like there was This tesla. Cult 795 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: and to this day you can go See Tesla corner 796 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: Near Bryant park In. Manhattan you can see where his 797 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: lab was really close to, HERE i think In Midtown. 798 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: Manhattan you can go see his personal effects at The 799 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: New Yorker. Hotel there is still this like vibe of 800 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: this poet genius who could have who maybe could have 801 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,399 Speaker 1: solved this next problem that wasn't. SOLVED i will say 802 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: that the last notable thing In tesla's life is a. 803 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: Pigeon it was a homing pigeon had a band on its, 804 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: leg But tesla had no idea where it came from 805 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: or who had owned. It and it would come to 806 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: visit him in his hotel room high Above manhattan on 807 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: The West, side and So tesla would start to feed 808 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: this pigeon and the bird would come and, go and 809 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: this became the Thing tesla was focused on at the, 810 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: end and, eventually like the, pigeon stopped coming. Back And 811 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: tesla told his, biographer when that pigeon, died something went 812 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: out of my. LIFE i. Know up to that, TIME 813 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: i knew with a certainty THAT i would complete my, 814 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: work no matter how ambitious my. Program but when that 815 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 1: something went out of my, LIFE i knew my life's 816 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: work was. Finished sad. Man it's a sad end For 817 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: jesus end and he died in nineteen forty, three poor 818 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: but not. 819 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 2: Forgotten so that's the end of the show. TODAY i 820 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 2: would recommend this Book empires Of light By Jill, jones two, 821 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 2: ends which Was it's a great book all about this 822 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 2: war of the. Currents it was a key source for 823 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 2: the show. Today we'll be back next week with the 824 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 2: last episode in Our edison. Series that is the story 825 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 2: Of edison and the. 826 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: Movies Bump, bump, bump bump bum at The. Muppets that's 827 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: my generic old timey. Ah our showrunner Is Ryan, dilly 828 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: our producer Is Gabriel Hunter, chang and our engineer Is Sarah. 829 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 2: Bruguier I'm Jacob, Goldstein I'm Robert. 830 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: Smith we'll be back next. Week with another episode Of Business. 831 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 2: History a show about the history of Business Robert. 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