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Speaker 1: Savannah Humoller, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
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Speaker 3: A smile at Everson's face.
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Speaker 5: I'm waiting to hear it.
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Speaker 6: Yes, you're following along the City of Champions.
Speaker 3: We've got a Master's champion here. We've got a Division
Speaker 3: champion hockey team here.
Speaker 7: Right there, We've.
Speaker 3: Got a Division champion basketball team here, that's right. He
Speaker 3: got a Division champion football team here. We don't have
Speaker 3: a Division champion baseball team here, but they.
Speaker 7: And you got about a half dozen state champion soccer
Speaker 7: teams here.
Speaker 3: We have that too.
Speaker 5: We gotta go to Dunking Field.
Speaker 6: Yes, it is the City of Champions and this is
Speaker 6: mixed Shots your Championship podcast here.
Speaker 3: At the s w b C podcast.
Speaker 5: I was waiting for them.
Speaker 4: We got football players on the football field, and we
Speaker 4: do have that too, that's right.
Speaker 6: You know why that is because this is the first
Speaker 6: day of the off season officially firstay back to worst.
Speaker 5: I was out there watching the techniques.
Speaker 7: See, that's why you were late walking in here. That's
Speaker 7: why you're seated in looking the man.
Speaker 6: I've moved over to ever since seat, we're thinking ever
Speaker 6: since not showing up.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at DB's with bad technique, Like what is
Speaker 4: going on here?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 5: That the coaches can't be out there. This must be
Speaker 5: they're all rehab.
Speaker 7: They're only doing strength and conditioning.
Speaker 4: No, man, I see the dude back pedaling and as
Speaker 4: he makes his move to come forward, it's you got
Speaker 4: the turn the foot. You got to turn the hip,
Speaker 4: you know, and come forward, otherwise you're digging your feet.
Speaker 7: Is that the rehab guy?
Speaker 5: It must have been because I was horrible.
Speaker 7: Tech because there's no coaches. But here's whatever the.
Speaker 6: Eversin has just added to the Cowboys needs in the draft.
Speaker 6: You're putting DB's up there at the top of the hip.
Speaker 5: Man. You can't just running in place digging up turf.
Speaker 7: Coach.
Speaker 5: That's all right.
Speaker 6: We got a very special edition of Mixed. It says
Speaker 6: we are now t minus ten days and counting before
Speaker 6: Draft weekend starts on April twenty fifth. April twenty fifth,
Speaker 6: twenty seventh, a week from Thursday.
Speaker 3: It's draft time.
Speaker 7: Is that why your Star Draft guide sitting there?
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't know what was sitting there.
Speaker 6: Boy, why do I need a Star's Draft gud when
Speaker 6: I've got the back? So I was your weekend, everybody?
Speaker 5: Oh? Mine was good, nothing special, nothing specially though.
Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of yard work for me.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, well okay, you mentioned the beard. What's going on, bro,
Speaker 4: it's gotta go.
Speaker 5: I'm speaking of the yard.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's gotta go. There's TV to do next week.
Speaker 3: So this is your last week?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think looking like that?
Speaker 9: Yeah, this is full off season, that's right.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, and you know probably every day you've
Speaker 7: got a shape.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I hate days when I just have to dig. Shirt.
Speaker 5: No, uh, this is my last week looking like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the T shirt.
Speaker 5: This is my last week.
Speaker 7: Absolutely got the w n B A draft today.
Speaker 4: Yes, we have that too, Yes, okay, So I think
Speaker 4: I'm going to the Stars game with my brother Wednesday night.
Speaker 9: Fan night, Fan appreciation night. Okay, can we talk about
Speaker 9: this for a second.
Speaker 5: Let's the Stars for a second.
Speaker 9: You guys obviously know I'm there at all the home games.
Speaker 9: We're so excited for our playoff series. Uh Central Division
Speaker 9: title that we got on Saturday, and so we are
Speaker 9: right behind the New York Rangers, so we're stealing contentions
Speaker 9: trophy and uh yeah, a lot on the line. If Vancouver,
Speaker 9: if they lose tomorrow night to Calgary, then we will
Speaker 9: clinch the Western title.
Speaker 7: They'll win the conference title, which is even more important,
Speaker 7: or we.
Speaker 9: Just need one point when it means something, Yes.
Speaker 6: We have another maybe okay, depend if the Rangers win tonight,
Speaker 6: they will clinch the President's Trophy.
Speaker 7: But they still would like the conference title, right, and
Speaker 7: then that's so.
Speaker 5: They can still which they could still win the conference.
Speaker 10: Title if if Vancouver wins, right, So Vancouver, if they
Speaker 10: lose against Calgary tomorrow night, then we would take the
Speaker 10: title tomorrow.
Speaker 9: But if that doesn't happen, then Wednesday, we would need
Speaker 9: one point to get the Western Conference.
Speaker 5: So we say at one point means one win, Okay,
Speaker 5: it just would be I want to make sure.
Speaker 3: Actually you could go into overtime and earn a point
Speaker 3: in the NHL and without winning.
Speaker 7: Otherwise you're going to be watching load and manage.
Speaker 4: That's the you know, if it's fan night, then they'll
Speaker 4: still make it foul.
Speaker 7: They only have what eighteen guys on the roster. They
Speaker 7: can't rest everybody.
Speaker 11: Off.
Speaker 5: They can rest in jobs. They'll need to listening to Savannah.
Speaker 9: But yeah, Stanley Cup playoffs they start Saturday on the
Speaker 9: twenty eeth.
Speaker 6: Okay, so we're going to bring it back from Canadian
Speaker 6: hockey to the National Football League and the drafts. There
Speaker 6: is a Canadian Football League player, Everson that you will
Speaker 6: be interested in. His name is Kuantes Stiggers. He bypassed
Speaker 6: playing college football instead he went to the Canadian Football League.
Speaker 6: He played for the Toronto Argonauts and his stock is
Speaker 6: rising in this draft. He's a cornerback, cornerback, six foot
Speaker 6: one hundred and ninety seven pound cornerback.
Speaker 7: And if you had watched the Shrine Bowl game, here
Speaker 7: first two plays he stood out. I don't know if
Speaker 7: he that was enough or maybe he pulled a hamstring
Speaker 7: after that, but he went down on the opening kickoff
Speaker 7: and made it tackle. And then on the first play
Speaker 7: of the game, if I remember correctly, he broke up
Speaker 7: a pass and it was almost.
Speaker 5: A pick six.
Speaker 7: So I said, oh, this is the Stiggers guy, and
Speaker 7: I kind of looked into what he was exactly.
Speaker 6: He was originally going to Lane College, and his father
Speaker 6: tragically died in a car accident, and so he had
Speaker 6: to help support the family, and so he wound up
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty two playing in that indoor fan controlled
Speaker 6: football league streaming league. And then in this past year
Speaker 6: he was with the Toronto Argonauts and was a CFL
Speaker 6: All Star and most outstanding rookie in the league. And
Speaker 6: now this is the first year he's eligible for the
Speaker 6: NFL Draft, and so he is one of the guys
Speaker 6: there all teams are looking at.
Speaker 7: How far you think he can move up or has moved.
Speaker 6: I heard one of the so called draft experts this
Speaker 6: morning say that his stock is rising. Were this supposed
Speaker 6: draft expert who has a junior on the end of
Speaker 6: his name, Uh.
Speaker 3: He's been doing it for forty six years, said that
Speaker 3: he's got him as a fourth round pick. Now, okay,
Speaker 3: so there you.
Speaker 10: Go, pretty good?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 7: What's his name again, Melker?
Speaker 8: Oh no, I got you, thank you, Which rends me
Speaker 8: speaking of a draft day, this is going back to
Speaker 8: the early nineties at Valley Ranch, and we're sitting on
Speaker 8: Draft day or watching the ESPN coverage of mel Kuiper.
Speaker 3: Junior comes on. Remember you know Greg Williams from the
Speaker 3: Ticket hard Lined fame now in retirement. If you know him,
Speaker 3: it's even funnier. He says, I got one question, who
Speaker 3: the hell's mel Kuiper Senor.
Speaker 7: Why does he get this lady Kiper?
Speaker 3: All right, So we got a little game we're going
Speaker 3: to play, right, We have a.
Speaker 9: Little game we're going to play today, you guys, okay,
Speaker 9: tell us what the game is, all right?
Speaker 10: So obviously draft is top We got.
Speaker 6: Plenty, We got plenty to talk about. This is just
Speaker 6: a preview of what's to come over the course of
Speaker 6: the next.
Speaker 10: Hour here exactly.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 9: So I know there's a lot of needs right now
Speaker 9: when it comes to this Cowboys team, and a lot
Speaker 9: of questions is what are the Cowboys going to do
Speaker 9: throughout this draft? And we have a lot of position
Speaker 9: needs we need to address. So I have we said
Speaker 9: a few weeks ago, you know, if Mickey and I
Speaker 9: brought a dartboard in here, we can just throw a
Speaker 9: dart and land on a position and we'd have a
Speaker 9: need for it.
Speaker 3: So I put together the spin.
Speaker 7: Wheel, the wheel of draft fortune.
Speaker 9: Yes, the wheel of draft fortune.
Speaker 12: So we're going to spin this.
Speaker 9: It's going to land on a position type and we're
Speaker 9: going to address the need and where we're at currently
Speaker 9: on the team with this.
Speaker 3: I love it. Okay, We're going to do that starting
Speaker 3: in the next segment. Okay, starting in the next segment.
Speaker 5: We're going to do that.
Speaker 6: I'm going to there's some there's some news this morning
Speaker 6: around the league. Yes, where would you like to start?
Speaker 6: I want to start with Davante or Davonte Smith Smith.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Davante Smith Adams. He's into Davante Adams territory
Speaker 6: now with his new contract. Philadelphia Eagles signing Davonte Smith
Speaker 6: to a three year, seventy five million dollar contract extension.
Speaker 3: I believe it was fifty one million guarantee and.
Speaker 7: It goes through twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 6: And so that is they picked up his fifth year
Speaker 6: option and then they've extended him three years on top.
Speaker 7: Of that, which averages out to twenty millions. Okay, So
Speaker 7: if you add sixteen million to that, yeah, that's pretty
Speaker 7: good chunk.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 6: So he was in the twenty twenty one draft and
Speaker 6: as you'll recall that was the Micah Parsons Draft and
Speaker 6: the Cowboys had the tenth pick in the draft. And
Speaker 6: what happened in that draft, the Philadelphia Eagles traded with
Speaker 6: the Dallas Cowboys to get ahead of the New York
Speaker 6: Giants because the word was the Giants were interested in
Speaker 6: Devonte Smith, and so then the Eagles took Smith. Cowboys
Speaker 6: dropped down two spots. The Giants wound up trading out
Speaker 6: because Davonte Smith was gone. They were looking Lawrence Taylor
Speaker 6: in the face and said, no, we don't want that player,
Speaker 6: and they instead they traded out with the Bears, and
Speaker 6: Justin Fields was taken by the Bears, and the Giants
Speaker 6: dropped down to like twenty and took Kadarius Tony. Didn't
Speaker 6: work out so well for them, and the Cowboys stick
Speaker 6: next and took Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3: So there's that draft history.
Speaker 6: But it is interesting when you look at the numbers
Speaker 6: posted by Davonte Smith in his career now three years
Speaker 6: in his career, compare them to CD Lamb's numbers in
Speaker 6: his career so far. All right, so it's a twenty
Speaker 6: five million dollar per year average on that extension for
Speaker 6: Devonte Smith.
Speaker 3: We're still going over thirty with CD.
Speaker 7: And that's why the deal hasn't gotten done yet because
Speaker 7: there's no telling what CDs folks are asking for. The
Speaker 7: Cowboys know, you know, he was guaranteed. He's guaranteed this
Speaker 7: year eighteen million on the fifth year option. So the
Speaker 7: guarantee has to be probably four times that I would imagine.
Speaker 7: And if you look at the salaries for the top
Speaker 7: paid wide receivers, they're going to have to go over
Speaker 7: thirty million dollars a year to be able to get
Speaker 7: him signed.
Speaker 3: And CD coming off the season that he had.
Speaker 6: Do you recall, ever, so how many catches CD had
Speaker 6: this past season?
Speaker 7: Eighty one hundred and thirty five? Oh eighty you know what?
Speaker 7: I sat there, you know here we are to put
Speaker 7: you on the spot.
Speaker 3: Ever, Bro, not to put you on the spot, ever, said, okay,
Speaker 3: because I just threw that curve ball at you.
Speaker 13: No.
Speaker 3: For myself, I knew good and well three months ago.
Speaker 6: I knew good and well that he had one hundred
Speaker 6: and thirty five receptions and led the league. And then
Speaker 6: I looked up his numbers today and I went, wow,
Speaker 6: he had one hundred and thirty receptions. I mean It's
Speaker 6: funny because three months passed and you get into doing
Speaker 6: other stuff and whatever, and you forget about exactly what
Speaker 6: was done. He had one hundred and thirty five receptions
Speaker 6: for seventeen hundred and forty nine yards twelve touchdowns.
Speaker 4: With me, the number that took everything was thirty million dollars.
Speaker 4: That's what I was looking at. I'll get the catchich,
Speaker 4: but that can't.
Speaker 7: Seem like you said.
Speaker 4: He just my god, the one hundred thirty five kids,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking that my guy, thirty million dollars a year,
Speaker 4: and that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: Well, and look at it.
Speaker 7: He's now four years in the league.
Speaker 3: Okay, not to be his agent here, It doesn't take
Speaker 3: much to.
Speaker 7: Be his agent with what he's done so far, called Jeria.
Speaker 6: Four years in the league, he now has three hundred
Speaker 6: and ninety five receptions for fivey one hundred and forty
Speaker 6: five yards and thirty two touchdowns. So the oh, let
Speaker 6: me just finish this, okay, all right, Michael Irvin, That's
Speaker 6: where I was going.
Speaker 7: In his career, had seven.
Speaker 6: Hundred and fifty receptions for eleven nine hundred four yards
Speaker 6: and sixty five touchdowns through four seasons. Ceedee Lamb is
Speaker 6: already halfway to Michael Irvin's numbers in his career.
Speaker 7: It's incredible. So he's got the single season franchise record
Speaker 7: for receptions and receiving yards already, and he's and actually
Speaker 7: close to the Hall of Famer right now.
Speaker 6: And if you go back and look at his career
Speaker 6: in college and even in high school down in Houston,
Speaker 6: he's put up these numbers forever in his life. I
Speaker 6: bet if you went back to his youth league game
Speaker 6: are days in used to he's put up the same time.
Speaker 4: I was just thinking when we first signed him, this
Speaker 4: is not what I saw. I saw a good player,
Speaker 4: but this is not what I saw. I didn't think
Speaker 4: he was gonna be this.
Speaker 7: Damn but he was that good in college, I know.
Speaker 3: But that's still God.
Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, it's the posed, it's the NFL.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: You can't just transfer that easily. Well, some people can't.
Speaker 6: And then the thing is is his ability to be
Speaker 6: moved all around the offense and run out of the slot.
Speaker 4: It says a lot of other wide receivers, the more
Speaker 4: you can do, the more you can do. Because you're
Speaker 4: talking about the guy, excuse me that Dan Bryant could
Speaker 4: have been so much better if he could have done
Speaker 4: if he could have done more than there was more
Speaker 4: for him to do.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so that he can.
Speaker 3: And the other thing is mentally CD can handle the load,
Speaker 3: you know, or wherever you line him up.
Speaker 7: So what Bill is pointing out with those numbers and
Speaker 7: what he's done. The highest paid wide receiver right now
Speaker 7: is Tyreek Hill at thirty million, fifty two guaranteed at signing,
Speaker 7: So you know this has got to exceed that, right
Speaker 7: if you're the agent. But the hang up is and
Speaker 7: people need to understand this instead of continuing to criticize
Speaker 7: the Cowboys for not having this done and having to
Speaker 7: deal with the fact that he may not be here
Speaker 7: in the off season to work out, may not be
Speaker 7: here for OTAs and you know, well two things. One, okay,
Speaker 7: thirty million, But the hang up is is justin Jefferson's
Speaker 7: in the same boat. And if you're the agent, who's
Speaker 7: going first, they're playing cat and mouse now, right because
Speaker 7: I don't want to sign my guy first, and then
Speaker 7: the other guy gets more and it looks like, oh,
Speaker 7: his club.
Speaker 4: Here's what I learned negotiations. It's just like a player.
Speaker 4: Everson walls. Ronnie Lott did good things, but in different ways, right,
Speaker 4: totally different ways, built differently, think differently, different everything. When
Speaker 4: you're talking about players, you're talking about wide receivers, talking
Speaker 4: about salaries.
Speaker 5: There's a way to.
Speaker 4: Reach a goal financially through other means. It doesn't have
Speaker 4: to be just signing bonus or just salary. I remember
Speaker 4: Doug Cosby. I copied him when he did in a
Speaker 4: contract with the Cowboys. He was doing very well and
Speaker 4: they wanted to sign to a good contract. Well, we
Speaker 4: put the newies into the situation and you start doing
Speaker 4: other money vehicles, then there's always.
Speaker 5: A way you can brag and say I made more.
Speaker 4: If I'm gonna make thirty million, I want to make
Speaker 4: thirty million in one, thirty million in two.
Speaker 5: Who cares.
Speaker 4: When you're talking about the top ten, there could be
Speaker 4: a money vehicle in there, a financial vehicle in there
Speaker 4: that could allow you to make money, but not necessarily
Speaker 4: in yearly salary.
Speaker 6: Be like.
Speaker 7: Would get his money after he retires. Well, some have
Speaker 7: done that, right, But there's a salary cap here.
Speaker 11: Do that.
Speaker 7: There's a salary cap here that you have to account
Speaker 7: for it.
Speaker 5: And that's the house and that within the salary, right.
Speaker 7: So, but the hang up is is basically Justin Jefferson
Speaker 7: because they're going to compare those two guys same draft, right,
Speaker 7: and they're going to compare number two and number two
Speaker 7: right now, since you mentioned it is Davante Adams at
Speaker 7: twenty eight million, Yeah, at twenty eight million. Uh, and
Speaker 7: then next was Cooper Cup twenty six point seven million.
Speaker 6: And to just to hammer home your point on the
Speaker 6: comparison between Ced Lamb and Justin Jefferson, check out their
Speaker 6: stats and how they compare to each other. Justin Jefferson
Speaker 6: has three hundred ninety two catches. CD has three hundred
Speaker 6: ninety five catches. Justin Jefferson has eight hundred ninety nine
Speaker 6: yards and CD is fifty one forty five. Jefferson has
Speaker 6: thirty touchdowns. CD has thirty two touchdowns. CD has also
Speaker 6: has forty three carries for another three hundred eighteen yards
Speaker 6: and three touchdowns, and Jefferson has only twelve carries twenty
Speaker 6: eight yards in one touchdown. But it's almost identical numbers
Speaker 6: across the board, and so that you can see where
Speaker 6: whatever Justin Jefferson is getting, CD says, that's me too.
Speaker 5: Ben.
Speaker 3: They're both three time Pro bowlers.
Speaker 5: So they can't both make the same amount of money.
Speaker 7: Can are they're gonna have to do?
Speaker 3: I mean, who whoever goes first is making less.
Speaker 7: Than the right exactly. And let's fish will buye first.
Speaker 7: And let's point out since the workouts began today strength
Speaker 7: and conditioning, it's no big deal. It's three weeks of
Speaker 7: strength and it's not like you're gonna have leverage by
Speaker 7: not showing up to me. I think a player puts
Speaker 7: himself in danger working out on his own compared to
Speaker 7: working out here, because if you work out here and
Speaker 7: get hurt. Their response to the Cowboys are you work
Speaker 7: on your own? You could get put on non football
Speaker 7: injury and if it's you do something serious, they don't
Speaker 7: have to pay you. You're out.
Speaker 5: So crazy, How now they're so restricted in the offseason. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we had thirty five basketball game schedules.
Speaker 7: You know, did they have non football injury back?
Speaker 5: We didn't.
Speaker 4: Even No one ever got hurt playing basketball in those games.
Speaker 4: Not one person got hurt.
Speaker 5: And I did it. We did it for at least
Speaker 5: nine years, and they did it before. I can't. It's crazy.
Speaker 4: So now you see Patrick Mahons, uncle basketball in the
Speaker 4: off season and everyone goes crazy.
Speaker 5: Right in the Chiefs organization.
Speaker 7: The other thing, the other thing I think.
Speaker 3: Patrick duncle basketball. Oh yeah, we see Mike. Could Mica
Speaker 3: does it in celebrity.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The other thing I was going to point out is
Speaker 7: if we remember back to last year when Zach Martin
Speaker 7: was chasing a raise, he didn't do anything till the
Speaker 7: middle of August with the team. He was here and
Speaker 7: he showed up for things that he had to mandatory
Speaker 7: mini camp, but he mysteriously had like a pulled hamstring
Speaker 7: or a groin or something that he was doing rehab stuff, right,
Speaker 7: but he was here doing that stuff and then didn't
Speaker 7: get that and he held out of the start of
Speaker 7: training camp.
Speaker 4: I think if if Ceedee Lamb does not show up
Speaker 4: for something like this, and I'm not trying to be
Speaker 4: make him any elitist or anything, but he and Dak
Speaker 4: and guys like that, they I don't think it's that
Speaker 4: important for him to be here when it comes down
Speaker 4: to salary versus. You come into a three week camp, right,
Speaker 4: and you can certain guy certain guys, and you can.
Speaker 7: Work out on your own, right. But again, there's a
Speaker 7: little bit of a danger there unless you take out
Speaker 7: an insurance policy. So just throw that out, all right,
Speaker 7: got much to get to.
Speaker 6: We are going to be spinning that wheel of draft
Speaker 6: fortune when we come back here on mix shots.
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Speaker 3: Well, all right, we're gonna spend that weeknut.
Speaker 9: The We're gonna We're gonna get going here. I'm gonna
Speaker 9: let Everson do the owners first ever, let's spin the wheel.
Speaker 3: So for those that just joining us, reset exactly what
Speaker 3: we're doing here.
Speaker 9: We are going to be spinning the draft wheel of fortune.
Speaker 9: It's going to land on a certain type of position
Speaker 9: and from there we're gonna address the need.
Speaker 5: For There you go.
Speaker 3: You can't see it there ever since holding it up
Speaker 3: where his camera?
Speaker 7: All right, okay, Van of spin all your text messages
Speaker 7: running that.
Speaker 5: Search. That's fine, my search history.
Speaker 7: Our Savannah Why is why is the big Tuna tics.
Speaker 3: All right, all right?
Speaker 7: Running back? Running back? Running back?
Speaker 9: This is honestly, this is one of my top of
Speaker 9: the list things to address here because let's look at
Speaker 9: where we're at right now with our running back guys
Speaker 9: currently ric o'doubtle obviously resigning this year.
Speaker 7: Do you comment, no, elaborate.
Speaker 15: I would just say that we've we've had our moments
Speaker 15: and once again Spags always steps in the way and
Speaker 15: needs to kill joy, you know, talking about the salary
Speaker 15: cap and all of that trivial things.
Speaker 5: I just think we do need another all.
Speaker 9: Right, So so are Reco Daudel Ducebawn, Malik Davis and
Speaker 9: Snoop Connor are who I have on my list? Well,
Speaker 9: you know, obviously it's been disappointing this offseason as far
Speaker 9: as you know, not being able to look at maybe
Speaker 9: somebody else as a free agent coming in here. But
Speaker 9: when it comes to the draft, what would make sense
Speaker 9: for the Cowboys as far as the running back position goes?
Speaker 9: Are there any guys that are on anyone's list here
Speaker 9: that may be a good fit for this team? And
Speaker 9: then what round would you suggest and who?
Speaker 7: Well, my question on it is, do you think there's
Speaker 7: a guy that'll go in the first round.
Speaker 3: There, it does not appear that there will be one.
Speaker 6: Now. The running back from Texas, Jonathan Brooks, coming off
Speaker 6: in ACL early November, gaming its TCU, he tours ACL,
Speaker 6: he has the ability that he could be a first
Speaker 6: round prospect in my opinion. However, the ACL injury will
Speaker 6: factor into that, and just the undervaluing of the running
Speaker 6: back position also factors into it. So I would predict
Speaker 6: that there are no running backs taken in the first round.
Speaker 7: So from Brooks' standpoint, and the Cowboys should know everything
Speaker 7: they need to know about him because of the surgery,
Speaker 7: because Dan Cooper, the Cowboys orthopedic surgeon, did the surgery. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so he should have the most insight on where he's
Speaker 7: at now.
Speaker 6: The trick as far as the Cowboys are concerned, if
Speaker 6: they want to draft Jonathan Brooks, the question is would
Speaker 6: he still be available at fifty six in the second
Speaker 6: round when the.
Speaker 3: Cowboys select, And my guests would be no, probably.
Speaker 5: Not, Yeah, And so we'll fixate on him because.
Speaker 7: Of what he's He was awfully talented and probably would
Speaker 7: have been a first round pick had he not got hurt.
Speaker 6: You think, I think, well, I mean, he you could
Speaker 6: make a case for him being a first jound. It
Speaker 6: depends on how you value running backs.
Speaker 5: Well, bjohn said the tone.
Speaker 3: So if yeah, and he's not to that level, Beijeon
Speaker 3: was a top ten pick.
Speaker 5: Would he have gone to that level if he wouldn't
Speaker 5: have got No.
Speaker 7: I don't think so.
Speaker 6: I don't think he has the speed, you know that
Speaker 6: that kind of but he is a and he didn't
Speaker 6: have as many opportunities at Texas. But prior to this year,
Speaker 6: because Bijon Robinson and Roshan Johnson were on the team
Speaker 6: ahead of him on the they were just ahead of
Speaker 6: him in years and so forth, and so yeah, and
Speaker 6: so this past year he was playing eleven games, eight starts,
Speaker 6: second team All Big twelve because his season was cut short.
Speaker 6: He had eleven hundred and thirty nine yards and ten touchdowns.
Speaker 6: Plus he could catch the ball twenty five receptions for
Speaker 6: another two hundred and eighty yards.
Speaker 5: But so they say a good fit for Dallas. They
Speaker 5: have a question mark kid, Braylan Allen.
Speaker 3: I love Braylan Allen.
Speaker 5: Well, you love about them Bill.
Speaker 3: He and he's a big back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's six, he's like the tallest one on him.
Speaker 6: He is six one, two hundred and thirty five pounds.
Speaker 6: He may have played at forty five at times for Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: Young guy he is.
Speaker 7: He turned twenty in January.
Speaker 5: Wow, he's that young.
Speaker 15: Wow.
Speaker 6: And he's played three years in the Big Ten. So
Speaker 6: he started playing at age seventeen at the Big Ten
Speaker 6: for Wisconsin, a running back school. He ran his first
Speaker 6: year at Wisconsin, he ran for twelve hundred and sixty
Speaker 6: eight yards and twelve touchdowns as basically what would have
Speaker 6: been a seventeen year old. His sophomore year he was
Speaker 6: twelve hundred and forty eight yards and eleven touchdowns, and
Speaker 6: this year another thousand yards and twelve touchdowns. But four
Speaker 6: four four, And if you'll listen to him, I just
Speaker 6: love the presence that he has. He has a maturity
Speaker 6: about him. He did not run a forty because he
Speaker 6: had a high ankle sprain late in the season.
Speaker 3: And he was rehabbing from that.
Speaker 6: But having said that, even though he had the high
Speaker 6: ankle sprain, he was playing through it, which says a
Speaker 6: lot about his toughness.
Speaker 3: Twenty six bench reps.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw that two hundred and twenty five pounds
Speaker 6: twenty six times. Anyway, but he actually what he did
Speaker 6: in high school, he reclassified his class. He was supposed
Speaker 6: to graduate in twenty two. Twenty twenty two, he reclassified
Speaker 6: back to the twenty one class, so he was supposed
Speaker 6: to be a junior.
Speaker 3: He basically went to college a year early.
Speaker 7: So the bottom line on the spin is they're going
Speaker 7: to draft a running back at some point. It's just
Speaker 7: a matter of win.
Speaker 4: Well, it's unfortunate that the running backs are being treated
Speaker 4: the way they're being treated, but to use it to
Speaker 4: your advantage. There are so many good running backs, and
Speaker 4: the best ones to me are the hybrids, the ones
Speaker 4: that can do more than one thing, not into just
Speaker 4: now just you're just a running back.
Speaker 5: Those guys that the way they have it, now you
Speaker 5: got to be That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 4: You have to get in the slot, you have to
Speaker 4: be able to pick up blitzes, and you don't have
Speaker 4: to be that bull headed running back to be successful.
Speaker 4: And especially depending on the team that you go to,
Speaker 4: some of them use running backs in very creative ways.
Speaker 4: So there's a there's a way, as long as the
Speaker 4: wrong team doesn't draft the wrong player.
Speaker 5: If you're fit in your system.
Speaker 6: Braylan Allen had seven straight one hundred yard games is
Speaker 6: freshman year Wisconsin.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 6: And but he's a physical downhill runner, and quote him,
Speaker 6: I want to punish somebody.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what. He's also smart.
Speaker 3: But to your point, all right, you're gonna use him
Speaker 3: as a first.
Speaker 6: Second down between the tackles running back, and you need
Speaker 6: the third down back as well, and so and so
Speaker 6: that lowers his stock to where to answer your question,
Speaker 6: I would think he was probably would probably you're looking,
Speaker 6: you feel really good if you could get him in
Speaker 6: the third round.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you can tell the five to nine guys,
Speaker 4: the five A guys, five to eleven guys, they're gonna
Speaker 4: be the little, fast twitch guys. They're gonna be the
Speaker 4: guys that can do more than one thing. They're gonna
Speaker 4: be the guy that, hopefully the guy that can running
Speaker 4: between the tackles as well as be useful on thirdy.
Speaker 6: And there's one like that in Bucky Irving from Oregon
Speaker 6: who's a five to nine hundred and ninety two pounder,
Speaker 6: and but he breaks tackles left and right, and he's
Speaker 6: a guy that he caught fifty six passes this past
Speaker 6: season at Oregon.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guy I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, And so if you were to pair Braylan
Speaker 3: Allen with Bucky Irving.
Speaker 4: Two different players, yeah yeah, and they both the team.
Speaker 4: What kind of system you have?
Speaker 5: I think the Cowboys would probably go with the traditional
Speaker 5: running back.
Speaker 7: So what would be your comfort level with Rico Daddle
Speaker 7: being your starting running back?
Speaker 9: So, honestly, I think if we are drafting a running
Speaker 9: back at any point in this draft, we're going to
Speaker 9: want to look for complimentary features as opposed to what
Speaker 9: Rico Daddle already has to offer. Rico is one of
Speaker 9: those guys who's he's very physical, but he runs up
Speaker 9: the middle. I think what you said, Mickey, We're going
Speaker 9: to want a guy that can also catch the ball
Speaker 9: and is slightly more of a receiver in a way too.
Speaker 4: What are the Cowboys? What's the Cowboys system this year?
Speaker 4: I mean, because we can easily change it.
Speaker 7: Well, here's another option.
Speaker 6: Okay, Let's say in the third day you draft Bucky
Speaker 6: Irving at a or again, Well, there's still a guy
Speaker 6: named Zeke Elliott that's out there who can be here,
Speaker 6: you know, and so you have a combination of Zeke
Speaker 6: and the rookie Bucky Irving and Malik Davis also on
Speaker 6: your team.
Speaker 5: And you're talking about being economical as well well, and
Speaker 5: would be that's not.
Speaker 7: Economical because the most inexpensive way to supplement these positions
Speaker 7: is in the draft.
Speaker 4: And I think lindbacks have been used for the last
Speaker 4: few years. Hey, he could be a hybrid, he could
Speaker 4: be this, he could be bad. So you have a
Speaker 4: lot of those guys in the draft.
Speaker 6: Well, I tell you there's another one that I just
Speaker 6: was looking at this weekend. Jalen Wright from Tennessee who
Speaker 6: turns twenty one this month. He ran a four to
Speaker 6: three eight. And that guy has that Devin a chain
Speaker 6: type speed man. He gets in the open field and
Speaker 6: he goes average seven point four yards. Harry for Tennessee
Speaker 6: this year in twelve Stars, thousand yard rusher.
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, so they needed to find a better comparison
Speaker 7: for him than Felix Jones.
Speaker 5: Oh is that what? Oh? In this? Yeah? This is
Speaker 5: all right.
Speaker 7: You want to spend the wheel one more time in
Speaker 7: this segment, Let's do it. See if you can go
Speaker 7: quicker run.
Speaker 3: Okay, it was too good. We're gonna We're gonna have Savannah.
Speaker 3: Savannah's spinning the wheel.
Speaker 7: The Savannah Vanna. Yeah, that's good, that's good.
Speaker 9: All right, snebacker.
Speaker 7: Did you watch Wheel of Fortune? By the way, Savannah,
Speaker 7: you weren't.
Speaker 3: Named after Vanna or you?
Speaker 10: No, No, I can't say that.
Speaker 3: I was bel It's just amazing that they not only
Speaker 3: that show has lasted that long, but she's lasted on
Speaker 3: the show that long.
Speaker 7: Say Jack too.
Speaker 6: I mean when I was working in San Antonio in
Speaker 6: the eighties, late nineteen eighties, they came by the TV station.
Speaker 7: And guess where.
Speaker 6: Guess where he has a house passageack? Yeah, what in
Speaker 6: your neighborhood, California?
Speaker 7: Really out there by the beach?
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, got it? Invite him to practice, bring
Speaker 3: it right back to the cow there you go.
Speaker 7: All right, So what's the spin linebacker?
Speaker 2: Leaning on?
Speaker 9: Linebacker?
Speaker 7: Linebacker?
Speaker 3: Linebacker?
Speaker 7: Definitely feel obviously a need you want to give.
Speaker 9: Us the stuffed absolutely so. Currently right now on the
Speaker 9: list for linebacker, we have Eric Kendricks, Marquise Bell, and
Speaker 9: De Marbion Overshown and de Moon Clark and Moon Clark,
Speaker 9: Buddy Johnson, you could say as.
Speaker 6: A and uh, supposedly Marquise Bell could be switching back
Speaker 6: to safety, but he in that position. He's a sub
Speaker 6: package linebacker, is a dime linebacker.
Speaker 7: They need a linebacker, yes, and yes, wherever they take
Speaker 7: a linebacker would be just fine with me if that's
Speaker 7: where the guy deserves to be drafted. And and to me,
Speaker 7: it needs to be uh and every and every down line.
Speaker 5: I was just thinking that, just thinking that.
Speaker 4: What we wanted vandis to be Yes, we need that
Speaker 4: type of player, someone who's big and also someone who's agile.
Speaker 6: Would you like Sean Lee? Yes, I got Sean Lee
Speaker 6: for you. Okay, there's only one problem. He's got an
Speaker 6: injury history.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it really Sean Lee.
Speaker 6: Are we talking about the Peyton Wilson from North Carolina?
Speaker 6: Steak and uh six three pounds, four fourth He ran
Speaker 6: a four to four to three at the combine. He
Speaker 6: won the Beteneric Award and the Butt Puts Award as
Speaker 6: the top linebacker in the country. He's got everything you're
Speaker 6: looking for as far as loving football, smart football player,
Speaker 6: diagnosing plays all that stuff, plays.
Speaker 7: With his hair on fire.
Speaker 6: And however, he has had an injury hit. And he's
Speaker 6: also the same age that Sean Lee was when he
Speaker 6: came into the league. He turns twenty four next week,
Speaker 6: and Sean Lee was an older player at twenty four
Speaker 6: years old coming into the league.
Speaker 7: So do I have to get him in the first round?
Speaker 6: No, And especially because of the injury history, he could
Speaker 6: he could slide to the third round. I mean we're
Speaker 6: talking in twenty twenty one. He had two separated shoulders
Speaker 6: in the same game. Wow, which tells you a lot
Speaker 6: about his toughness as well.
Speaker 3: Stayed in the game with a separated shoulder.
Speaker 7: Or that they have multiple harnesses available, and he's.
Speaker 6: Had going back, he's had knee issues and he's had
Speaker 6: a number of injuries, but he's been healthy, uh the
Speaker 6: last two seasons.
Speaker 5: So very incomplete. Numbers on the linebackers, Well.
Speaker 7: That deadline, deadline, deadline.
Speaker 6: You're looking at numbers, looking measurables and here yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: measures he had He ran a four four to three,
Speaker 6: He had a six eight five cone drill which is great,
Speaker 6: thirty four and a half vertical.
Speaker 7: And what about bench press? Got it?
Speaker 3: He did not uh.
Speaker 5: Messed up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, you know any other thing about it. He
Speaker 3: doesn't look he looks more.
Speaker 6: He uh and he runs he runs faster than a
Speaker 6: safety does, but he looks, uh, he doesn't he looks more.
Speaker 6: He's a will Okay, he doesn't look like he He's
Speaker 6: not the big Layton vander Esh guy in the middle,
Speaker 6: you know, two hundred and fifty five pounder.
Speaker 7: But if you think about it, where Dumont Clark belongs
Speaker 7: to me is in the middle.
Speaker 5: I don't think so.
Speaker 7: I don't want him dropping in the coverage, is he?
Speaker 7: But Kendrick's gonna be in the middle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, So what about Jeremiah
Speaker 4: Charyther junior? He's man only six feet Wow?
Speaker 6: His dad's talling that, yep, six foot two, twenty eight
Speaker 6: and out of Clemson. He is projected as a third
Speaker 6: fourth rounder, somewhere in that range. Edrian Cooper from Texas
Speaker 6: A and M is a first round talent, but probably
Speaker 6: because he plays inside linebackers going to go second or
Speaker 6: third round. Man, He's got a couple of on his
Speaker 6: highlight reel, a couple.
Speaker 3: Some decleating tackle. Yeah, he'll hit you. Consensus first team
Speaker 3: All American.
Speaker 4: But how well rounded are they? I mean, you got
Speaker 4: you can't just go with big hits these days. You
Speaker 4: have to cover the tight end on the scene route.
Speaker 4: You have to recognize you.
Speaker 7: I'm looking at couldn't even do that.
Speaker 9: I'm looking at Cedric Gray.
Speaker 3: I mean some of his ability.
Speaker 9: Gray can line up against a tight end, running back,
Speaker 9: or wide receiver in man coverage and find the equal
Speaker 9: amounts of success. So I think that's the need that
Speaker 9: the Cowboys got thirty five. You've got to be able
Speaker 9: to place them in different places.
Speaker 7: Are there any linebackers out there that go like two fifty.
Speaker 3: Well, let me find the linebacker that goes I mean a.
Speaker 7: Guy that can sit there and take on a blog.
Speaker 7: They don't play that brand of football, the.
Speaker 6: Football in the SEC anymore. Those guys turn into their
Speaker 6: edge rushers instead.
Speaker 7: So on this list here they've got thirty linebackers listed.
Speaker 7: I don't see one guy who who's well there it
Speaker 7: is Wilson. One guy's to forty jaalen Ford, Texas out of.
Speaker 6: Frisco lone star high school. The guy that I like
Speaker 6: is Trevin Wallace from Kentucky. He's six one two and
Speaker 6: thirty seven pounds, ran a four or five to one
Speaker 6: with a thirty seven and a half vertical, a ten
Speaker 6: to seven broad jump.
Speaker 3: I love watching that kid.
Speaker 5: Seven vertical man, that's not bad at all.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love watching him play. Just turn twenty one
Speaker 6: years old, he had uh jump ten to seven team captain.
Speaker 6: He's a he's a four down linebacker, meaning meaning he's
Speaker 6: going he can play three downs on defense, and he
Speaker 6: will be terrific on special team.
Speaker 7: And think about it, and especially with the new kickoff returns.
Speaker 3: This guy, the way he closes as fast as he is. Oh,
Speaker 3: he's up there.
Speaker 4: I mean he's very fast, because that's what that's what
Speaker 4: made Powson's specialism. But now justin he could read the
Speaker 4: play and sniff it out at the time, but being
Speaker 4: able to make the play, and.
Speaker 5: I love the way he finish it.
Speaker 3: Trevin Wallace reads and reacts too.
Speaker 7: What happens if they say Parsons is a linebacker? Is
Speaker 7: that lesson the need for a.
Speaker 13: Choice?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it does. You don't have to go high like
Speaker 5: you said.
Speaker 3: But Trevin Wallace is probably a third rounder. This is
Speaker 3: a third round guy.
Speaker 5: Is that what you're proposing?
Speaker 7: I would rather am at linebacker, but they didn't ask me.
Speaker 6: You rather Parsons be at linebacker, But he can also
Speaker 6: and then go down and rush the corn well. And
Speaker 6: here's the perfect scenario on that with a Trevin Wallace
Speaker 6: and you got Eric Kendricks already here, so Kendrick starts
Speaker 6: and de Mont Clark's and there too, whatever however you want.
Speaker 3: To work it.
Speaker 6: And they don't forget overshown and overshown as well. But
Speaker 6: Trevin Wallace as a rookie would be a a Travin
Speaker 6: Wallace type rookie coming in here is going to be
Speaker 6: a sub package guy, which is what they were projected
Speaker 6: over shown to be last year coming in. And but
Speaker 6: they they may already think they've got their linebacker and overshown.
Speaker 4: For that the a and you've got to have a
Speaker 4: linebacker in there that can can you know, diagnose the
Speaker 4: way they've been attacking us, not just on the running
Speaker 4: play but on play action. If put putting Parcels back
Speaker 4: there is better, If he's if his recognition is better
Speaker 4: as a linebacker as opposed to how bad it was
Speaker 4: is on the end, then I'm all for putting him
Speaker 4: back at linebacker. But he's got to have the intellect
Speaker 4: to be able to sniff things out before it comes.
Speaker 5: And he just wasn't good at that last year on the.
Speaker 3: Edge, and that's a lot of study time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta know what you're doing.
Speaker 4: If we're going to put him back there, then you
Speaker 4: need to be the guy that say, hey, this is coming.
Speaker 4: He should recognize it and say, guys, be ready for it,
Speaker 4: like Shawn Lee used to.
Speaker 5: Do for us.
Speaker 7: If if you go back and look at his Penn
Speaker 7: State tape, what attracted me to him was he was
Speaker 7: playing linebacker and he he would hit the hole, he
Speaker 7: could sense where the ball was going, and he would fill.
Speaker 7: That's what attracted me to me.
Speaker 6: Because college offenses different than NFL offenses. And all I'm
Speaker 6: saying is that if you're the middle linebacker on a team,
Speaker 6: you've got to be the teacher. You have to study
Speaker 6: as much as a quarterback, understand the ties of the other.
Speaker 5: You can't just worry about It's not about brute strength.
Speaker 6: It's like when Sean When Sean Lee was here, you
Speaker 6: know what his study and a linebacker that played alongside him.
Speaker 6: He's tweeting about the video games that he's playing during
Speaker 6: the regular season, and I'm like, no, get get in
Speaker 6: there and study your films.
Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 6: Okay, we continue spitting the wheel. But first, Everson was
Speaker 6: looking through the Star draft guide and you came across
Speaker 6: a name that you really liked, one of these draft prospects.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, nice sweet name. Kool Aid mckinstree. Kool Aid mckinstree.
Speaker 5: He was named kool.
Speaker 4: Aid by as grandmother because of his big smile, reminded
Speaker 4: her of the kool Aid name.
Speaker 3: Possession, corner, cornerback.
Speaker 4: Eleven, almost two hundred pounds, no numbers on them. Before
Speaker 4: you guys have.
Speaker 3: One, I've got he.
Speaker 6: He did not run at the combine, he had a
Speaker 6: right foot injury. But he ran at his pro day
Speaker 6: a four four seven with a one wow, a one
Speaker 6: forty four ten yards split and a thirty four and
Speaker 6: a half vertical ten to one broad jump. And the
Speaker 6: first name this is, according to Dane Brugler and the
Speaker 6: Beast on the Athletic dot com, Jaquinsy kool Aid McKinstry.
Speaker 6: So his given name is Jaquincy. So there you go,
Speaker 6: kool Aid McKinstry. That sounds like a character in Draft Day.
Speaker 5: So his name is Jickenzie McKinstry.
Speaker 7: That's a lot that is the Long Night.
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe gut Quins. It's a g a apostrophe Quincy.
Speaker 6: So it's either gut Quincy McKinstry or jug Quincy McKinstry.
Speaker 3: But it's cool. That is kool aid.
Speaker 5: It is not.
Speaker 3: It's kool aid with a dash in between the cool
Speaker 3: and the aid.
Speaker 10: By the way, emphasis you know, yeah, so you think
Speaker 10: he had.
Speaker 6: An nil deal at Alabama or kool aid? All right,
Speaker 6: spin that wheel, let's spin it.
Speaker 7: Here we go. We need some music this, I know,
Speaker 7: we need a little sound or something. You really spun
Speaker 7: that wheel. It took a long time for it to
Speaker 7: land or the land. It's always center center.
Speaker 9: Right now, brockh Hoffman is our starting center. Nickey, where
Speaker 9: are we.
Speaker 6: At with undrafted undrafted brock hoffs So here's my right now,
Speaker 6: right now. If the Cowboys went out and played a
Speaker 6: game of Brock Kaufman, brock Hoffman's your center, and TJ.
Speaker 3: Bass is your left guard.
Speaker 6: And Tyler Tyler Smith left tackle, and then so you
Speaker 6: would have three undrafted players starting for you.
Speaker 3: Terrence Steele, Brockaffman, and TJ.
Speaker 5: Bass. That's right, Okay, So what are you guys trying
Speaker 5: to say?
Speaker 7: So here's what I'm trying. This is to me, this
Speaker 7: is the easiest way because if you look at all
Speaker 7: the mock drafts, they're just assuming the Cowboys have to
Speaker 7: take a tackle, right because they lost Tyron Smith. Well,
Speaker 7: when I see these mock drafts for what they're worth,
Speaker 7: by time the Cowboys are getting to twenty four in
Speaker 7: the first round on the majority of them, five offensive
Speaker 7: tackles have already been off the board. So I know
Speaker 7: there's depth at the offensive tackle position. But do I
Speaker 7: want the sixth best offensive tackle in the first round
Speaker 7: when I've got Tyler Smith sitting right here and all
Speaker 7: he has to do is take three steps to his
Speaker 7: left and play left tackle. And then on my philosophy
Speaker 7: on guards, I think TJ. Bass showed that he has
Speaker 7: some talent. You can draft a guard in the second
Speaker 7: or third round, you don't have to draft it in
Speaker 7: the first. And then my question is who's playing center?
Speaker 7: Who's touching the ball sixty times a game? Because there's
Speaker 7: no more Tyler Biattish at center. And so when I
Speaker 7: started looking at some of the centers in this draft,
Speaker 7: and the guy that caught my eye was Zach Frazier
Speaker 7: from West Virginia, and I watched his workout and then
Speaker 7: I watched him play. This guy's very versatile. He can
Speaker 7: really move for a guy that's three hundred and ten
Speaker 7: pounds whatever he is. And to me, you got to
Speaker 7: shore up that middle because if you're susceptible at the
Speaker 7: center position, then you got some big problems. So to me,
Speaker 7: the least expensive way to help at center. And by
Speaker 7: the way, we said brock Hoffman would be the starter today.
Speaker 7: Who's your backup center? Got what? Anybody? They don't have
Speaker 7: one now. So I like this Zach Frasier guy, and
Speaker 7: I think you can do a Travis Frederick with him
Speaker 7: and probably trade down and get him in the low
Speaker 7: twenties or thirty thirty one.
Speaker 5: So Travis Frederick was a late round pick.
Speaker 3: He was first first first round pick.
Speaker 7: They had the eighteenth pick in that draft, and they
Speaker 7: traded the thirty one and got criticized for taking somebody
Speaker 7: you can get in the second round. Well, he wasn't
Speaker 7: gonna be there when the Cowboys drafted uh in the
Speaker 7: second round.
Speaker 3: Traded down and they wound up getting both Travis Frederick
Speaker 3: and Terrence Williams.
Speaker 5: Out of that deal.
Speaker 7: Got two starters for the one spot.
Speaker 4: So to me, yeah, whatever shows up the Cowboys offensive line,
Speaker 4: it always seems to come from the guard position, you know,
Speaker 4: when you really want to solidify it. Oh, it seems
Speaker 4: like that's the it's the ace in the hole for me.
Speaker 4: You got Larry Allen, right, he was a guard.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 4: You got a lot of guards out there that came
Speaker 4: in the late round, late first round, late picked, late rounds,
Speaker 4: in the first round, lake picks the first round.
Speaker 7: They already have a first round picket guard.
Speaker 5: I know they do.
Speaker 7: You just want one guard, you need another one?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you need a good guard.
Speaker 3: Well, you need a good first round picket guard. How
Speaker 3: much longer is he gonna play?
Speaker 7: Well, that's true, But do I need a first round
Speaker 7: pick at every offensive line position?
Speaker 4: I never really worry about what round did they go in?
Speaker 4: And it's the Cowboys have proven this. What can you
Speaker 4: do when you get there?
Speaker 5: I don't care.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I understand money.
Speaker 5: I'm with you. Bag. You sound like you're about to
Speaker 5: argument all your freaking side. Shut up.
Speaker 7: Guard. He's not as guardens.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying.
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is, once again, I'm with you. I
Speaker 4: don't care where they're drafted. I want to make sure
Speaker 4: when they come in. Larry Ally wasn't you know he
Speaker 4: was laid round?
Speaker 7: Second round, second round.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you can find them there. I'm not worried about.
Speaker 4: Once again with you, I'm not worried about them being
Speaker 4: first round.
Speaker 5: All of that is.
Speaker 4: Everything's about status and nego off the first round. I
Speaker 4: don't give a damn come in here and play. You
Speaker 4: found many running backs, No, they're running backs all over
Speaker 4: the league that are doing damn well, and you have
Speaker 4: some of them are free agents, so I.
Speaker 5: Don't care where they come from.
Speaker 4: You've got to get guys that can come here and
Speaker 4: help this culture, the guys that come in here and
Speaker 4: feed into the culture that we have as a good
Speaker 4: running team. Because we can't do it with the Cowboys
Speaker 4: with just worrying about Ceedee Lamb and getting Dak Prescott
Speaker 4: his numbers. We got to have an all around team,
Speaker 4: and sometimes going back to the basics is the way
Speaker 4: to do it.
Speaker 7: I don't know what's in the Big Green notebook on
Speaker 7: Zach Frasier, but he was a three times, he was
Speaker 7: a three time team captain and a four time state
Speaker 7: heavyweight wrestling champion. Had only lost I think one or
Speaker 7: two matches in his entire high school career.
Speaker 6: Plus he was a Campbell Trophy finalist. You know what
Speaker 6: they give the Campbell Trophy for? You were ever since
Speaker 6: you were probably a finalist for this. Yeah, it's the
Speaker 6: academic heisman.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, nope.
Speaker 3: He also.
Speaker 6: This is the kind of work ethic that he has
Speaker 6: in uh an entrepreneurialship that he has. In seventh grade,
Speaker 6: he built he turned his garage into a gym, and
Speaker 6: he's worked out in that garage gym. And he would
Speaker 6: just and people in the neighborhood would just bring like
Speaker 6: extra weights that they that they had that they didn't
Speaker 6: want anymore.
Speaker 7: They'd just bring it and drop it on his when
Speaker 7: when he started lifting too.
Speaker 3: Much weight that he didn't have weight to fill it.
Speaker 3: So anyway, that's what he would get.
Speaker 6: On his birthdays, he would they would come over and
Speaker 6: bringing birthday president.
Speaker 3: And he was that's how you have thirty bench reps
Speaker 3: of two and twenty five pounds.
Speaker 7: And he was a National Football Foundation First Team Scholar athlete.
Speaker 4: Hey guys, let me tell you, So all these stories
Speaker 4: and the amazing good stories can you play. That's gonna
Speaker 4: be guys out here with no stories that will kick
Speaker 4: everybody's ass in the room. So to me, show me
Speaker 4: what you can do on the field. I remember when
Speaker 4: I was at Grammar, they come with all this stuff. Man,
Speaker 4: let me show you how I could cover this guy
Speaker 4: one on one. And that's what I hung my hat on.
Speaker 4: So whatever these guys can do, it better be good
Speaker 4: for the team that they go to. You better be
Speaker 4: good for the team that you go to. And they
Speaker 4: don't want you to build a weight room wherever he goes.
Speaker 4: They want him to already be a finished product. So
Speaker 4: that's what that's what I look at. Everything else is hype.
Speaker 4: You've got guys on here. Every one of them can
Speaker 4: brag and say they can do something, but when they
Speaker 4: get in the league, somebody still gonna kick their asses.
Speaker 3: I also like a center that has eleven inch hands.
Speaker 5: Is that what he happens?
Speaker 7: Eleven inch hands that hangs on to the football a
Speaker 7: little bit longer, there's no fumbled snacks.
Speaker 5: We want him to give up the ball. We don't
Speaker 5: want to hang on.
Speaker 7: To the back and all the all the description of
Speaker 7: this guy. The one word that keeps coming down bulldog.
Speaker 7: I want a bulldog.
Speaker 3: Okay, So who do we draft today?
Speaker 5: We're going with all free agents. Forget this crap. Uh,
Speaker 5: we haven't hit. This was a looking for late round gyms,
Speaker 5: that's what they're.
Speaker 9: So we just looked at running back, running back, linebacker,
Speaker 9: and center.
Speaker 5: Okay, So well, Phraser be there for us. Will he
Speaker 5: still be avail.
Speaker 7: At twenty four?
Speaker 5: I think so?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, they can train. We're talking still the second round,
Speaker 7: and you can get him maybe in the second round.
Speaker 3: Centers don't usually go early.
Speaker 9: All right, running back we Jalen Allen or I'm sorry,
Speaker 9: Braylan Allen, Braylan Allen, Wisconsin.
Speaker 6: That was third round, third round.
Speaker 9: Nckey wanted a linebacker in the third round.
Speaker 6: I also wanted a linebacker in the third round. I
Speaker 6: got a bunch of them in the second third round.
Speaker 6: So I say trade back and pick up as many
Speaker 6: second and third round picks as you can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's there's too many needs on this team.
Speaker 7: And from what I'm hearing also to know that's not
Speaker 7: so much.
Speaker 5: We got the ark there.
Speaker 3: That's why you don't reach That's why you don't reach
Speaker 3: for a position of need, because you got a lot
Speaker 3: of positions of need on this team.
Speaker 7: And my understanding is usually for the Cowboys when they
Speaker 7: give out first round grades at for the draft, they
Speaker 7: usually have like fifteen to eighteen twenty maybe first round
Speaker 7: grades on guys, and they're grading them not only how
Speaker 7: talented they are, but also where they fit the fit
Speaker 7: and where the Cowboy needs for the Well, I'm told
Speaker 7: that there might only be a dozen to fifteen first
Speaker 7: round grades this year.
Speaker 6: All right, let me ask you this as we run
Speaker 6: out of time or pastime. Yeah, but would you you
Speaker 6: like Darius Robinson, defensive lineman from Missouri.
Speaker 7: And Bill did a nice job on him last night,
Speaker 7: by the way.
Speaker 3: In the Big Green Notebook. Would you take him at
Speaker 3: twenty four in the first round?
Speaker 7: Yes? And I bet I can get him at twenty eight.
Speaker 6: Okay, Now let me ask you this though. Would you
Speaker 6: be opposed because you just sung the praises of Zach
Speaker 6: Frasier of doing what this team did in twenty fourteen
Speaker 6: when they drafted Zach Martin in the first round and
Speaker 6: then they traded up to take DeMarcus Lawrence in the
Speaker 6: early second round number thirty four overall. Okay, so they
Speaker 6: traded their second, their third round pick plus their second
Speaker 6: to move up to early second round to take Lawrence,
Speaker 6: and those two players are still with the team a
Speaker 6: decade later, playing at a very high level. Would you
Speaker 6: take Darius Robinson at twenty four, take your third round
Speaker 6: pick and trade up early second round to take Zach
Speaker 6: Frasier as your center.
Speaker 13: Yes.
Speaker 7: My only hesitation saying yes is I've only got seven.
Speaker 3: Picks, right, and you don't have a fourth round pick.
Speaker 7: I don't have a fourth round d and so.
Speaker 6: You're going way back for your next pick, right, and
Speaker 6: if you did that, you're going to have to trade
Speaker 6: a future pick to get back in the fourth round
Speaker 6: or third round, right.
Speaker 7: Because you only have seven and thank goodness for compensatory picks,
Speaker 7: because they would only have five.
Speaker 5: All Right, Savannah has closed her That means it's time.
Speaker 5: Because that's it.
Speaker 3: We've closed the door on another.
Speaker 7: Jazz has chased us off the area draft the fortune. Okay,
Speaker 7: you know what, next week we have one more and
Speaker 7: then the draft.
Speaker 5: That's right, So it's the wheel again next week.
Speaker 3: I know that you here's your homework assignment. Ever since?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I need a seven round Laise hand Ever, Sin,
Speaker 6: here's your homework assignment, A seven round mock draft all
Speaker 6: the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: I want to see this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you won't see it. I'll be calling you cheating
Speaker 5: off your papers.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 3: That does it for this week on mix Shots. Have
Speaker 3: a great week and we will see you again next week.
Speaker 5: Go Cowboys.
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