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Visit Azycardinals dot com slash podcast. 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: Here we go one hand and catching a touchdown. Oh baby, 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: how's that fail? 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolou, Paul Calvic and nine year NFL veteran 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson. 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 4: And then there were four Eagles commanders in the NFC, 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 4: chiefs bills in the AFC. And we'll touch on the 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 4: playoffs here in a little bit. As we say, Welcome 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: to the Cardinals Red Seas Report. We do it every Tuesday, 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 4: year round here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Things 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 4: a bit quiet within the Arizona Cardinals, at least for 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 4: right now, so it does allow for some reflection on 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 4: the season that just passed and where this team is headed. Cardinals, 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 4: we know eight and nine just not good enough to 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: be a part of the postseason picture. But when you 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: talk about certain position groups rob that you think can 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 4: be on the upswing, maybe some improvements, wide receiver certainly 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 4: comes to mind. It was a talking point a year 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,919 Speaker 4: ago at this time. Hey, this team needs a number 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: one wide receiver. There are many that still believe that 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 4: wide receiver is a talking point, but I wouldn't put 31 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 4: number one wide receiver atop that list, but certainly a 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 4: position that perhaps needs to be better as far as 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 4: quality of production. 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that position group, the wide receiver is 35 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 5: one that the Arizona Cardinals offensively. You know, obviously they 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 5: took Marvin Harrison Junior in the first round last year, 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 5: and that was a point of emphasis, and and he 38 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 5: had a you know, by all accounts, I think he 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 5: had a fairly successful rookie season. But they do need 40 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 5: depth at that position that I feel they could benefit 41 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 5: from some down the field speed presence, somebody that can 42 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 5: take the top off of a secondary force those safeties 43 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 5: to respect the potential of a deep threat and allow 44 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 5: guys like Marvin Harrison Junior to really navigate in the 45 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 5: in that middle underneath area. And so you know, I 46 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 5: look for the Arizona Cardinals in free agency in the 47 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 5: draft to pay attention to that position group. I don't 48 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 5: know that it's number one on the priority list, and 49 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 5: we can get into that in terms of just position 50 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 5: need on this team, but there are needs and and 51 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 5: certainly wide receiver would be one. 52 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 6: You're always looking to upgrade every single position, right receiver included. 53 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 6: I mean, every single position group is going to be 54 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 6: targeted in some way by the GM. That's his job. 55 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 6: But at the same time, you can't assess twenty twenty 56 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 6: four in the Cardinals receiver room without wondering if there 57 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 6: was more out there to be had what you saw 58 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 6: in the final game from Greg Dortch. When you get 59 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 6: Greg Dortsch to the ball, when you target Greg Dortch, 60 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 6: get them the ball in space, good things tend to happen. 61 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 6: He tends to make defenders look stupid. Didn't get a 62 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 6: ton of opportunities, ton of targets during the year. Jay 63 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 6: Jones a couple of nice catches in the last two games, 64 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 6: had a nice toe tapper. Had the La Rams really 65 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 6: ran a nice route, a professional play to keep his 66 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 6: feet inbound, snag that ball. He's got great size at 67 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 6: six ' two plus he's a bigger receiver. Didn't see 68 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 6: a whole lot of him for a variety of reasons 69 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 6: this year. Zay Jones and then Michael Wilson. You know 70 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 6: that roller coaster ride in season number two for Michael Wilson. So, okay, 71 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 6: how much of it was personnel? How much of it 72 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 6: the other aspects of the passing game? When Kyler says, look, 73 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 6: we need to be better, it can be better. I 74 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 6: don't think he's just talking about Marvin Harrison Junior. It's 75 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 6: probably the entire downfield passing attack. 76 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 5: And I think a fair amount of it too has 77 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 5: to do with personnel groupings. For the Arizona Cardinals, they 78 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 5: lead the league in terms of multiple tight end personnel groupings. 79 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 5: So that limits the opportunities to even get on the 80 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 5: field if you're a wide receiver. So you know you're 81 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 5: gonna have Marvin Harrison Junior out there, So who else 82 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 5: is gonna be out there and have the ability to 83 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 5: make some plays and make an impact? 84 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 4: And I think that's a great point because if you're 85 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 4: gonna have Trey McBride. We know he's gonna be out 86 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 4: there if you're gonna have a second titand is that 87 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 4: Elijah Higgins or someone else Tip Ryman. But if you 88 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 4: go to a third titand then all of a sudden, 89 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 4: that takes someone off the football field, and that's someone 90 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: is gonna be a wide receiver. 91 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 6: And in many cases you are a run first offense. 92 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 6: You're a top ten run team. And you know the 93 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 6: old saying, no block, no rock. So Greg Dortch at 94 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 6: his size, not exactly a strength of his game necessarily 95 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 6: right taking out someone downfield, So that limits his opportunities 96 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 6: as well. When James Connor is such a priority and 97 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 6: focus of this offense. 98 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 4: You look at the downfield passing game and the numbers 99 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 4: this season forty three pass plays of twenty or more 100 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 4: yards tied for the seventh fewest amongst other teams in 101 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: the NFL. So can you get that to be a 102 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 4: little bit more on a consistent basis, And we're all 103 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 4: pointing to one player in particular, and that would be 104 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior. By all accounts, statistically a pretty solid season, 105 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 4: sixty two catches, eight hundred and eighty five yards eight 106 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 4: touchdowns that tied the franchise single season record for rookies. 107 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: Larry Fitzgerald and Kwan Bolden also had eight receiving touchdowns 108 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 4: in year one. Another player who wore that Cardinals uniform 109 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: who played wide receiver, second round pick nineteen ninety five, 110 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: Frank Sanders guests recently on the Big Red Rage what 111 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 4: he saw out of MHJ. 112 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 7: He will not be the same guy next year playing 113 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 7: against the dbs that he faced this year. There's a 114 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 7: lot of tricky little stuff that they did to him 115 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 7: to try to take him off his routes, to take 116 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 7: him off his game as a route runner. He's literally 117 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 7: one of the best route runners in the NFL. It 118 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 7: was always a good challenge and a good match. And 119 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 7: so I like his burst once he gets into his route. 120 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 7: I like his ability to be shifty once he catches 121 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 7: the ball and then you see the burst of speed. 122 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 7: So he has all the things that we need. 123 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: You talked Paul about things left on the table, and 124 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing left on the table is 125 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 4: when you look at the number of targets. One hundred 126 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 4: and sixteen times someone targeted Marvin Harrison Junior, but just 127 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: sixty two receptions, fifty three percent catch percentage. That is 128 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: not good. That needs to be increasingly much better in 129 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 4: year two. And you would think that jump from year 130 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 4: one to year two, first full offseason without having to 131 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: worry about the combine and every everything else following a 132 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: college career, that yeah, fifty three should be up to 133 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: dar near seventy percent if you want to be a 134 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: consistent wide receiver in the league. 135 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 6: And it was so stark in its contrast with Trey McBride. 136 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 6: He would get ten catches on ten targets. He get 137 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 6: eleven catches on twelve targets, and the efficiency was there. 138 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 6: But you know what Trey McBride said more than once 139 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 6: this year that it took three years him and Kyler 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 6: learning to play together, just knowing inherently innately where he's 141 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 6: going to be on certain plays. When you got a 142 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 6: two hundred and seventy pound pass rusher bearing down in 143 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 6: your quarterback, he can trust where Trey McBride's going to 144 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 6: be that Trey McBride is going to read the defense 145 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 6: the same way. Had conversations with Marvin Harrison Junior himself 146 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 6: this year just on how different the NFL game is 147 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 6: from the college game in terms of defense's disguising coverages. 148 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 6: So in some ways you have to be a quarterback yourself. 149 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 6: You got to read that coverage same way Kyler's reading it, 150 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 6: or you're not going to be on the same page. 151 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 6: You're not going to be in the right place at 152 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 6: the right time, which you're Kyler refer to in the 153 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 6: final month of the season. And that's all a process. 154 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 6: And when you're a wide receiver one you're getting targeted 155 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 6: by either a the best corner on the field or 156 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 6: b extra attention. And Marvin Harrison Junior saw all the above. 157 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: And on that topic, let's go back to your conversation 158 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: Paul You and Ron Woofley had with Frank Sanders on 159 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: The Big Red Rage about what Marvin perhaps saw defensively 160 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: here in his first year in the league. 161 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 7: You know, you have to learn how a team are 162 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 7: starting to try to definue. I run a good deep 163 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 7: ball and the guy starts to playing a little bit 164 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 7: off more, or you see the safety start to cheat 165 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 7: over a little bit. Now you're starting to see it. 166 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 7: Well in Marvin case, you can see a lot of 167 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 7: cornerbacks come up to jam him to try to slow him. 168 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 7: Down and then they he'll have another guy over top 169 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 7: of him. So it's making that adjustment the most and 170 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 7: that's the beauty of the NFL. It's making the adjustments 171 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 7: in the second half of the season, making the adjustments 172 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 7: in the second half of the game so you can 173 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 7: walk away with a victory. 174 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: There is no question that Marvin Harrison Junior has a talent. 175 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: And I think more times than in college, high school 176 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: before that, he won with talent. National Football League ever 177 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 4: won is talented. Rob Now, all of a sudden, you 178 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 4: have to figure out how to marriage that talent with 179 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 4: the skill set and also figuring out, all right, I 180 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 4: know what you are going to do, and I have 181 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 4: the ability to beat that, and all of a sudden 182 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: becomes middle more of a chess game and the mindset 183 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 4: and figuring, right, this is how to beat this coverage. 184 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think about Marvin Harrison junior and from my 185 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 5: personal experience, going from that rookie season to your second season, 186 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 5: there is an enormous amount of growth that players go 187 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 5: through that I went through that It just is like 188 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 5: the everything seemed to make sense in that second season 189 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 5: in terms of offenses, what they were trying to do 190 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 5: and what my role and responsibility was. Well, same thing's 191 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 5: going to go for Marvin Harrison Junior. He's going to 192 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 5: have a better understanding. He's going to be able to 193 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 5: look back in his mind at what happened that rookie season, 194 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 5: what happened that first year against this type of low look, 195 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 5: against this type of coverage, and what I should have done, 196 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 5: and what I will do, And here's what I do 197 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 5: and be on the same page with Kyler all the 198 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 5: all the time and energy that they're going to expend 199 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 5: together this off season is just going to go even 200 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 5: further to solidifying that that chemistry and that relationship. So, 201 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 5: you know, I feel really bullish on the future of 202 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison Junior within this offense. Now, he's got a 203 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 5: lot to work on. There's there's no question there. 204 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 7: You know. 205 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 5: Frank said earlier he thinks he's an outstanding route runner. 206 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 5: I disagree right now where he's at right now. I 207 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 5: think that he's got a lot to develop in terms 208 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 5: of route running, in terms of getting in and out 209 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 5: of cuts, speed work, and in terms of just UH 210 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,359 Speaker 5: utilizing leverage in your body UH to to create some separation, 211 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 5: create a throwing lane for your quarterback. There's a lot 212 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 5: of things getting off the getting off the press, man, 213 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 5: that's that's something that a lot of teams. You saw 214 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 5: a lot of teams try to do with Marvin Harrison Junior. 215 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 5: To get up and he's a big target, so you 216 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 5: get up there and get hands on him and affect 217 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 5: his route from the beginning. He's got to learn how 218 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 5: to navigate that. He's got to learn how to get 219 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 5: beyond that initial press and get into his route. So 220 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 5: the timing's not altered. So there's a lot to work on. 221 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 5: But again, I'm very bullish on him going into his 222 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 5: second season. 223 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 6: If you look at what Drew Petsien said his final 224 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 6: meeting with the media week seventeen after Marvin Harrison Junior 225 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 6: had a nice game at the Rams, and he said, look, 226 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 6: he won someone on ones. He played fast, played violent 227 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 6: and aggressive, won at the top of his routes. He 228 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 6: had yards after catch. A lot of those categories and 229 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 6: boxes that he checked in that game was a work 230 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 6: in progress. You didn't see it every single game. He 231 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 6: saw it in Spurts. Here's the other thing Frank Sanders 232 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 6: shared he had Rob Moore as a number one receiver 233 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 6: when Larry Fasherald came in. He had an Kwon Bolden 234 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 6: who was coming off Rookie of the Year campaign. So 235 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 6: Marvin Rrison Junior didn't have that. He didn't have that. 236 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 6: He was wide receiver one and got all the attention. 237 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, the focal point was always tor his side of 238 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: the field. Hey, you want to see MHJ in Year 239 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 4: two Cardinals season ticketweight list, go to Azycardinals dot com 240 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 4: forward slash waitlist. That's Asycardinals dot Com forward Slash waitlist. 241 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: This is the Arizona Cardinals radio network. 242 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 3: I was trying to get to the line quickly, one 243 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: twenty in counting two receivers left, one right with one 244 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 3: point fifteen first down, snapped to Purdy straight Thropic in trouble, 245 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: hit and the ball flutters far aside and Tizier White 246 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 3: with a diving interception to win the game. 247 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: Head midfield. 248 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: Purdy got hit, the ball fluttered and Kaizer White pot 249 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: up to it, pulled it in and the Cardinals are 250 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 3: gonna get one in San France. 251 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 5: Dap the pig into the air and Kaizer White comes 252 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 5: down with it. 253 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: It was Jalen Thompson that got pressure on rock Party 254 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: and Kaizier White with the pick. 255 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: I'm getting the mohawk. Baby. 256 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 4: Flashback Week five in San Francisco Cardinals pulling out a 257 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: twenty four to twenty three win thanks to a takeaway 258 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 4: to end the game. Guys, you're white with interception. Yes, 259 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: Ron Wolfley did get a mohawk. It's I think all 260 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: the way back to normal hairstyle. I'ven't seen Wolf. 261 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: In a little while. 262 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 4: But again, as we discuss mohawk, it wasn't truly a mohawk. 263 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, they sent it up to the booth upon further review, 264 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 6: really wasn't totally a mohawk. You know, a couple of 265 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 6: players called it a faux haawk. Wolf took exception that 266 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 6: he then renamed it, rebranded it the my hawk, and 267 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 6: he rocked at most of the remainder of the season regrettably. 268 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 6: But you know, Wolf, act like you've been there before. 269 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 6: Come on, you go in, you beat the forty nine 270 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 6: ers in Santa Clara, which you've done more than fifty 271 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 6: percent of the time. I mean, there's no need for 272 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 6: a mohawk. 273 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: Come on. 274 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 5: It's like, you know, when the landscapers come over and 275 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 5: they're gonna lay down sod. That's what it looked like 276 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 5: it was like one one little section of sod that 277 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 5: just went from his forehead back to his ears. 278 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 4: That's a great visual, Rob. I'm gonna might have to 279 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 4: use that. 280 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 6: At one time, even the head coach walked into his 281 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 6: Money TV show and said, Wolf, don't do it, shook 282 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 6: his head, don't do it, Wolf, and Wolf did it. 283 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 4: So there you go. Yeah, he turned it into a 284 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 4: bet on the radio show. So yeah, yeah, congratulations to Well. 285 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: If the question is, will he and Dave Pass be 286 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: talking about Kaiser White coming up in twenty twenty five 287 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: as we kind of transition here on the Cardinals, Red 288 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 4: seaerport to looking at those players who are scheduled to 289 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 4: be unrestricted free agents coming up in March. March twelfth, 290 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: by the way, is when the new league year begins. 291 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 4: Cardinals have twenty unrestricted free agents, eleven of which on defense, 292 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 4: and Kaiser White, the quarterback of the defense who has 293 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: the green dot calls the defense gets everyone in order, 294 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 4: is one of those free agents to be and already 295 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 4: on social media has posted a couple of weeks back, 296 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 4: Rob that perhaps his time has come and gone with 297 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals. We will see what does materialize. But 298 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: that would be a big hole defensively considering what he 299 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: did statistically, and then again just getting all ten players 300 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 4: to where they need to be for that particular snap. 301 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 5: Social media is a negotiating tactic, Craig, you know, so 302 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 5: just we'll just leave that there. But Kaizer White, you 303 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 5: you can't underscore the impact that he's had on this team, 304 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 5: on this defense in terms of leadership, Uh, in terms 305 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 5: of when you need out there defensively, when you when 306 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 5: you need to make a statement. He's a statement maker 307 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 5: in terms of just just a big hits, you know, 308 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 5: when when you when you need them most, when you 309 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 5: need to fire up the team the crowd. 310 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 7: Uh. 311 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 5: Kaizer White has always been there and been that that impact. 312 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 5: But you know, he does have some some shortcomings. And 313 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 5: I think when you look at coverage in terms of 314 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 5: from the linebacker standpoint, that that's an area where you know, 315 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 5: it's maybe not his strongest suit. And uh, you know, 316 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 5: cover and line uh tight ends and covering so revers 317 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 5: and running backs out of the backfield. That's a big 318 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 5: part of today's NFL. And so I'd love Kazer White. 319 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 5: I don't know if he's going to be back. I'd 320 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 5: love to have him back, there's no question. I think 321 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 5: he's a heart and soul, one of the heart and 322 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 5: souls of this defense along with Buddha Baker, So you know, 323 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 5: that would be a big void. But I also think 324 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 5: at the same time that there's some young guys that 325 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 5: are coming up that they really like. I know, the 326 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 5: Owen Popo is a guy that you know is just 327 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 5: twitchy and athletic and young, and they really like what 328 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 5: he does. But as far as leadership, it's Kazier White 329 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 5: all the way. 330 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 6: And you have to gauge, Okay, if you're going to 331 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 6: replace that position, is that guy going to still wear 332 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 6: the green dot? Is he going to call the defense? 333 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 6: And from day one, the rest of the players, including 334 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 6: Buddha Baker, raved about Kaizer White's ability to call a 335 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 6: defense and get those calls in immediately and then make 336 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 6: adjustments on the fly and react to what an offense 337 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 6: is doing and get the checks out there and just 338 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 6: be that real quarterback the defense. In terms of coverage, 339 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 6: it's interesting, Rob I don't consider him exceptional in coverage, 340 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 6: but there have been other middle linebackers who have been 341 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 6: much more of a liability, don't you think, And as 342 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 6: a former safety in college. I mean, you can't match 343 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 6: him up on every single running back and tight end, 344 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 6: but it doesn't seem like teams target him and coverage 345 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 6: as much as we've seen other middle linebackers at times 346 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 6: get victimized. 347 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, it's you know, look, every every every 348 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 5: player has their strengths and weaknesses, and I'm just I'm 349 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 5: just speaking as a you know, as a pure just 350 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 5: looking at him and assessing him as a player. That's 351 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 5: probably more on the weakness side in terms of just 352 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 5: man demand coverage. That's probably the area where he would 353 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 5: even self acknowledge that, you know that that's maybe the 354 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 5: area where I could improve. But I don't think that's 355 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 5: reason enough to say we're making a change. I think 356 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 5: there's other factors. 357 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 6: And I think Nick Ross was smart enough when it 358 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 6: might have been a matchup disadvantage, they would use saving Colins. 359 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 6: Sometimes they would sub saving Colins in either because of 360 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 6: his speed or his size at six ' five, and 361 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 6: that's why sometimes he saw Zamon Collins all the way 362 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 6: downfield in coverage. 363 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 4: Also at inside linebacker, Chris Barnes scheduled to be an 364 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: unrestricted free agent, and then you look at that front seven. 365 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: As far as the defensive line, LJ. Collier, who had 366 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: his best season of his six year career in twenty 367 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: twenty four, Roy Lopez another defensive lineman, and then what 368 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 4: do you do at outside linebacker Victor to mccagey, Julian Laguara, 369 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 4: Dennis Gardek, and Baron Browning, who was a late addition 370 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: this past season. In fact, you look at Pro Football 371 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 4: Focus Paul and they list their top free agents, Browning 372 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 4: is the only Cardinals player among their top forty as 373 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 4: far as who they believe are highly coveted free agents. 374 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 6: To be, Baron Browning's really interesting and he finished strong 375 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 6: in the eyes of the coaches. I can tell you 376 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 6: that I ad a few conversations. A. He finally got 377 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 6: comfortable in the scheme after the mid season trade. B 378 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 6: he got his legs back because he was dealing with injury. 379 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 6: So they think they saw the real Baron Browning the 380 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 6: last month or so. See as the injuries piled up, 381 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 6: he got more reps and if you talk to him, 382 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 6: he felt like he got him more of a rhythm 383 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,719 Speaker 6: out there. And Rob you can talk about how that 384 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 6: you know, you come in for maybe a snap here 385 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 6: or there, but if you get three, four, five in 386 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 6: a row and he's felt like, Okay, that's where he's 387 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 6: able to put his best on display because he did 388 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 6: get into a rhythm the last two or three games 389 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 6: of the year. 390 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I like Baron Browning just from the explosive standpoint. 391 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 5: He's a guy that can really get off the ball 392 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 5: and be a difference maker and be really effect and 393 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 5: force the offensive linemen to maybe get out of their 394 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 5: technique in terms of turning their hips and turning their shoulders. 395 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 5: Baron Browning is a guy that can really take that edge. 396 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 5: So he's a guy that I would look to bring back. 397 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 5: Look as I look at the needs of the Arizona Cardinals, well, 398 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 5: just we're just talking defense right now. It's edge. It's 399 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 5: in tier, defensive line, and cornerback. Those are the three 400 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 5: in that order. So edge is going to get some attention, 401 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 5: whether it's free agency, whether it's a draft re signing 402 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 5: free agents. This is the position group that was not 403 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 5: necessarily addressed last year in the off season, and it's 404 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 5: still an area where the Cardinals have a major need. 405 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: Xavier Thomas was the only new face in the outside 406 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 4: linebacker room last offseason, and yes, selfishly would love Roy 407 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: Lopez to come back. 408 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 5: LJ. 409 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 4: Collier after a season which he did not do anything 410 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 4: because he was hurt, showed that he could flourish within 411 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: this defense. And you're talking about the interior of the 412 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 4: defensive line. Certainly that push up the middle. Three and 413 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 4: a half sacks from Collier this season, and again, Roy 414 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 4: Lopez is not going to while you with stats, Paul, 415 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: but as far as a run stuffer and someone who's 416 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 4: gonna give it to you every single snap, yeah, sign 417 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: me up to bring both those players back along the 418 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: defensive line. 419 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a reason Roy Lopez started fifteen sixteen games 420 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 6: this year. You can just plug him in. He can 421 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 6: take on the double team and you know he's not 422 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 6: getting blown off the ball. Former high school state champion wrestler, 423 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 6: knows all about leverage and what it's like to be 424 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 6: in and he enjoys that role. So there's no doubt 425 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 6: I think those guys as part of a rotation. Next year, 426 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 6: you get ballall Nickels back, you get Justin Jones back. 427 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 6: Darius Robinson takes that next step as a first round 428 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 6: rookie to his second year with a complete offseason, maybe 429 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 6: puts on a little bit of weight, and you know, 430 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 6: ideally on paper at least that D line looks a 431 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 6: lot better. As for the edge, it's a tough deal. 432 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 6: Is that Coming to number sixteen overall in the draft? 433 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 6: How do you get that guy who's gonna get after 434 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 6: the quarterback? Because ideally you'd like to go from seventeen 435 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 6: different players with a sack to perhaps one all star 436 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 6: rusher with seventeen sacks, if you could do that. 437 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 4: On the flip side, we talk about the line of 438 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 4: scrimmage offensive line. You look at the names Calvin Beacham, 439 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 4: who was really invaluable this season because of his ability 440 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 4: to play both left and right tackle and in a 441 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 4: pinch if you need him to play on the inside. 442 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 4: But then you look at Will hernandez Evan Brown theres 443 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 4: again you go back to Week one, Rob, as far 444 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 4: as who are your starting offensive lineman, Well, you're about 445 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 4: to lose perhaps unless they bring him back both Will 446 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 4: and Evan As far as your rights and left guard respectively. 447 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, again, interior offensive line is an area on my 448 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 5: list that really needs attention in terms of the draft 449 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 5: or free agency. And Calvin Beacham can't say enough about 450 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 5: the future governor. I think, you know, he's a guy 451 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 5: that you can plug and play really anywhere, and he's 452 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 5: done a remarkable job given the number of years that 453 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 5: he's played in this league. So really, like Calvin Beacham, 454 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 5: Will Hernandez, you know, it's it's tough coming off of 455 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 5: that that devastating injury. What's he going to be like? 456 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 5: You know, So it's it's hard to forecast, but I 457 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 5: thought when we lost Will Hernandez, we we lost a 458 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 5: lot of that push on that offensive line because he 459 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 5: is so dominant in terms of just his run blocking ability. 460 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 5: And so that's that's an area where the Cardinals need 461 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 5: to focus in free agency and in the draft. 462 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 6: I think, if Will Hernandez is on the field, do 463 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 6: you think Leonard Williams has that sort of game wrecking performance? 464 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 6: You know, in two games against Seattle, there's a couple 465 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 6: of fourth and shorts and gotta have it moments where 466 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 6: without Will Hernandez out there, where were you're running the ball? 467 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 6: Who are you're running the ball behind? That's I think 468 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 6: we really missed big will Now based on pass guys 469 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 6: who have suffered a knee injury midway through a year 470 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 6: into their contract year, maybe there's a one year prove 471 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 6: it deal that's coming his way, and you know it's 472 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 6: financially affordable for the Cardinals, and we know he loves 473 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 6: it in that Cardinals locker room and in that O 474 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 6: line room. But there are a couple other big names 475 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 6: who are going to hit the free agent market. Tray 476 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 6: Smith of the Kansas City Chiefs expected you know, he's 477 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 6: a Pro Bowl guard. That could be a guy Kevin Zeitler, 478 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 6: the Lions, big time starting offensive guard. They're not going 479 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 6: to be able to afford everyone. They've got a lot 480 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 6: of guys going in a free agency and a lot 481 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 6: of talent. So that might be one area where a 482 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 6: Cardinals team right now that's projected to have top ten 483 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 6: cap space, you could see an expended. 484 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, whether it's right or left guard. I think that's 485 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 4: where this offensive line could really get Again. It wasn't 486 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 4: a bad offensive line. In fact, I think it was 487 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 4: a very good offensive line this past season. Clayton Adams 488 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: and his coaching staff, they do a great job with 489 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 4: those guys, and then the next man up mentality, who 490 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 4: comes in to replace what was it like eight or 491 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 4: nine ten different offensive line combinations this past season. So 492 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 4: you got to have depth. But if you could fortify 493 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 4: the interior alongside, whether that's the left or the right, 494 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 4: with Yell de of forro Hold in the middle, Rob, 495 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 4: I think that offensive line just becomes that much better, 496 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 4: especially given who your quarterback is. 497 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think you said the operative where there 498 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 5: is depth, and that's really what any successful offensive line 499 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 5: is going to need throughout the course of the season 500 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 5: because there are going to be injuries and I think 501 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 5: when Will Hernandez went down again, their's on a Cardinals 502 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 5: suffered in terms of just the strength of that rushing attack. 503 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 5: Calvin Beecham was a great asset to have when injuries happened, 504 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 5: Calvin Beacham can come in and play those and fill 505 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 5: those roles. So it's nice to have that depth on 506 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 5: the offensive line if the Arizona Cardinals want to be successful. 507 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 6: Next Yeah, I get it. It's not a big splash 508 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 6: signing a silly and you go for a guard. But 509 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 6: look what Carolina did with Rob Hunt. They gave big money. 510 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 6: They overpaid, you could say, twenty million a year, but 511 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 6: when they had to have it in certain situations, including 512 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 6: against the Cardinals in that key game in December, they 513 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 6: went behind their big Pro Bowl right guard, highly paid 514 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 6: Rob Hunt, and he set a tone and he paved 515 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 6: the way for Chewba Hubbard in that game. 516 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 4: Can't leave this segment without talking about Paul's group, The Specialist, 517 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: because that's where he hangs out during the course of 518 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: a game. And you're looking at Matt Prater, Aaron Brewer, 519 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 4: and Michael Pollardi all to be unrestricted free agents. Now 520 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 4: you've got Blake Gillikin who's coming back, Chad Rylan who 521 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 4: is coming back. You think you're pretty good with their 522 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: So again, it's not one of those moves that you 523 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 4: think is going to move the needle. But hey, count 524 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 4: me in for Aaron Brewer to come back because name 525 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 4: me the last time that there was a bad snap, 526 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: whether that was on a field goal or a punt 527 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 4: a pat in twenty twenty four. 528 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, it'll probably be like the last couple of Cardinals 529 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 6: Campsl'll bring in some young guy and he'll lose. He'll 530 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 6: lose to Aaron Brewer. I'm just gonna mark that down 531 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 6: right now. As for Chad Ryland, based on what we 532 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 6: saw this year, based on the fact that two years 533 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 6: ago he was a mid round draft pick, he has talent. 534 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 6: I think he's figured out a few things in this league. 535 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 6: He obviously excelled as an Arizona Cardinal. I look at 536 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 6: Chad Ryland, I go he could have a fifteen to 537 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 6: twenty year career, just like Matt Prater. He's that talented 538 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 6: and I fully expect him to be the Cardinals kicker 539 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 6: next year if he asked me to bet on it. 540 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: And sometimes it's that second chance for a specialists, especially 541 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 4: because the pressure and those kickers who do get drafted 542 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, so much hype, so much attention, 543 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: and it's the next stop in which, all of a 544 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 4: sudden they become that consistent threat. 545 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, Chad Ryland really proved himself to me this season, 546 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 5: And I'm with you agree when it comes to Longston 547 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 5: as you got one, you got one that doesn't miss, 548 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 5: doesn't make mistakes. You sign them up, you lock them up. 549 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 5: You don't want to tinker around with that position. 550 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 4: If Brewer wants to keep playing, then make sure he 551 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 4: keeps playing in an Arizona Cardinals uniform. 552 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 2: Bird game. 553 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 4: Make sure you check out the day Patch podcast via 554 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and the Cardinals official YouTube page. That's 555 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 4: YouTube dot com forward slash Azy Cardinals. The latest episode 556 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 4: features comedian Frank cal Theando and episode you do not 557 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 4: want to miss. This is the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 558 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 5: On a two yard line's supple, Philadelphia opens up, the 559 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 5: hand off gets partly running to. 560 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: The left, partly gets done. 561 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 3: Everybody say Parkway is gone, tous down. 562 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 4: Let a snowy Sunday say quote partly. 563 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 8: That's Domina to the Eagles twenty eight fifteen Shilly. 564 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 7: He is at another level. 565 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: Seventy eight yards. 566 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 4: Had a sixty two yard touchdown run as well. Earlier 567 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 4: in the game. I an Eagle Westwood one calling the 568 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 4: Eagles twenty eight twenty two victory over the Los Angeles 569 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 4: Rams in the divisional round. As we say, welcome back 570 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 4: it as the Cardinals Red Sea report Creig grayolupaulk Calvic 571 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 4: and Rod Frederickson talking about the NFC playoff picture over 572 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 4: the weekend, and yeah, it was a great game to 573 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 4: watch because while I wasn't there and didn't have to participate, 574 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 4: but gotta love a snow game in Philly and the 575 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 4: Eagles the two seed advancing to the NFC Championship game 576 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 4: next week and doing it on the strength of a 577 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 4: ground game. Although you look at those or you listen 578 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,479 Speaker 4: to those two calls or the runs of the sixty 579 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 4: two and seventy four the rest of the game Saquon 580 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 4: Barkley very mediocre, sixty five yards on twenty four carries. 581 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 4: But again, if you have those big runs, Paul, then 582 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, it doesn't matter the rest of 583 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: the way. But yeah, he broke them off and the 584 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: Rams had no answer to Sars stopping him consistently. 585 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 6: So after the game, he said that he actually called 586 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 6: for that play, the seventy eight yard touchdown run. He 587 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 6: said he saw something and he called for it. Whether 588 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 6: he told the offensive coordinator, whether he told Jalen Hurts, 589 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 6: but he said he was half smiling right before the 590 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 6: snap because he knew that was gonna hit. You want 591 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 6: to hear my hot take on a Saquon Barkley in 592 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 6: connection to the Cardinals. Might want to put on your 593 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 6: oven mits for this one. 594 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: Rob. 595 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: He's not going anywhere, Paul, He's gonna remain in Philly. 596 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 6: When I watched Saquon Barkley, yeah. 597 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: I see a little bit. 598 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 6: We'll bet a Trey Benson, Oh boy, We'll bet you 599 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 6: got the size you got the dude who can stoke 600 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 6: it between the tackles. But if he gets to the 601 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 6: second level untouched, he's got that sprinter speed to finish. 602 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 6: We'd never had a chance to see that this year, 603 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 6: that home run hitter ability from Trey Benson. But he 604 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 6: got more confident, and you saw it mid season where 605 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 6: he wasn't going out of bounds, he wasn't going down 606 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 6: without a fight. All of a sudden, he was channeling 607 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 6: some of that inner James Connor, I see a little 608 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 6: bit Trey Benson when I watched Saquon Barkley. 609 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 5: All Right, I don't have the oven mits on, but 610 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 5: you know I'd like to see more of Trey Benson 611 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 5: to to either pooh pooh on on your take off 612 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 5: or to bake that thing into a Sioux Fla and 613 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 5: rise it up. You know, it's this game to me, 614 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 5: along with all the other games this weekend. The team 615 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 5: that lost outscored or I'm sorry, statistically was more efficient 616 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 5: and better than the team that won. And and the 617 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 5: only the only thing that really, the only common denominator 618 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 5: that I see is is turnovers. Except for the Chiefs 619 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 5: Texans game. There were no turnovers in that game. But 620 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 5: it all came down to turnovers, and and you know, 621 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 5: that's really the main statistic that matters the most. And 622 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 5: I thought the Rams in that game, they play played 623 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 5: hard defensively. I'm very impressed with the Rams defensively and 624 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 5: what they've done, what the turnaround that they've had in 625 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 5: the last couple of years in terms of those young people, 626 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 5: young guys up front especially, and what they're able to 627 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 5: do defensively. You know, that's something that the Arizona Cardinals 628 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 5: certainly will will have to pay attention to. 629 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 6: So the stat was on the entire weekend Washington, Philadelphia, Buffalo, KC. 630 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 6: The four teams in advance committed a grand total cumulative 631 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 6: zero turnovers, while their opponents committed ten. So you're right, 632 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 6: that was a different And think about the fourth quarter 633 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 6: fumbles by the Rams in that game. You had Kien Williams, 634 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 6: he had Matthew Stafford. Both resulted in field goals which 635 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 6: ended up being the difference in the game. And then 636 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 6: you couldn't help but notice Sean mcvaigh saying after the game, 637 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 6: quote we had two turnovers that don't necessarily occur in 638 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 6: different elements end quote. In other words, frozen fingertip fumbles 639 00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 6: is what he was talking about. 640 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 4: Hey want home field advantage, win more games, be that higher. 641 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 4: See that's what happens when you have to go on 642 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 4: the road. But to your point, as far as the turnovers, 643 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 4: while you look at what the Detroit Lions coughing up 644 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 4: the football five different times, three interceptions and a fumble 645 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 4: by Jared Goff as the Commanders do what they have 646 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 4: not done since nineteen ninety one, is that his advanced 647 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 4: to an NFC championship game. But the Commanders forty five 648 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 4: the Lions thirty one. Washington had four hundred and eighty 649 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 4: one yards of total offense. They punted just once. And 650 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 4: this is a rookie quarterback in Jaden Daniels who is 651 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 4: leading Washington. 652 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 5: He's not playing like a road I mean, Jayden Daniels, 653 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 5: everybody is impressed with, so impressed with him, and I'd 654 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 5: go so far as to say of the quarterbacks still 655 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 5: in the playoffs, he's the one that's really playing the 656 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 5: best football right now at the right time. And so 657 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 5: I love what they've done in Washington. The Commanders are 658 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 5: really a hot streak right now. Jayde Daniels obviously is 659 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 5: leading him, but I feel bad for my Detroit Lions. 660 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 5: You know, it's my home state, and you know, just 661 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 5: everything that the Lions organization have been through throughout the years. 662 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 5: That was a tough loss for them, and it was 663 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 5: self inflicted. I really think it was. I feel like 664 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 5: they tried to get a little too cute in that 665 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 5: game and instead of just ramming Jamiir Gibbs vertical, because 666 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 5: that guy is special and he's a starting running back 667 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 5: in this league if I've ever seen one in a 668 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 5: star They should have stuck to that game plan, kept 669 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 5: it on the ground and run the heck out of 670 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,719 Speaker 5: him and Jared Goff play action off of that. But 671 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 5: they started to get a little cute and and Jared 672 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 5: Goff didn't have the greatest of games and through some 673 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 5: bad interceptions, and you just can't do that in the playoffs. 674 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 6: I'm with you. I watched David Montgomery in that game. 675 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 6: I'm like, why Jamiir Gibbs looks so much faster, so 676 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 6: much more athletic. David Montgomery, you know, heroic effort to 677 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 6: come back injury, but he should have been in case 678 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 6: of emergency break lass let Jamier Gibbs have twenty twenty 679 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 6: five touches and yeah, it's tough to watch, but you know, 680 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 6: I Washington's old line was a lot better than I 681 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 6: thought they would be. Jane Daniels sixteen carries for fifty 682 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 6: one yards, and you had Austin Eckler and Brian Robinson. 683 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 6: They combined for one hundred and twenty four yards rushing 684 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 6: in two touchdowns. I thought the Washington O line, even 685 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 6: minus Sam Cosmy who tore his acl the best, their 686 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 6: best old lineman. I thought they did pretty well in 687 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 6: that one. But you know, maybe the Lions were cooked. 688 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 6: When they're a marketing slogan all year long was we 689 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 6: want more. Well that's how you left your fans wanting more. 690 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 4: Fifteen wins and one and done in the postseason. And now, 691 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 4: in all likelihood, they've already, accorded to reports, lost their 692 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator Ben Johnson. He's going to be the Chicago 693 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 4: Bears head coach. 694 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 6: I've already seen the headlines. By the way, you know 695 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 6: what they're calling him in the D the three to 696 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 6: one three Benedict Johnson for going to the Bears, staying 697 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 6: in the division. Lions fans don't like the fact that 698 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 6: he's going to be in the division. 699 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 4: Well, the good news is now you've got Aaron Glenn 700 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 4: their defensive coordinator, the Jets apparently hot in pursuit of him. 701 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: Don't do it, Aaron, don't do it. 702 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 4: Lewin losing your offensive coordinator and your defensive coordinator after 703 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 4: a fifteen win season in which there was so much 704 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 4: on the line. To your point, Rob, as far as 705 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 4: just the excitement level in Detroit, coming off of a 706 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 4: year ago on the first playoff win in a number 707 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 4: of years, and now forced to watch the Commanders and 708 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 4: Eagles play in the NFC championship game. They went one 709 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 4: to one in the regular season, so this would be 710 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 4: the rubber match on Sunday, one o'clock on Fox, third 711 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 4: time between the Eagles and Commanders. Commanders, by the way, 712 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 4: the only team on the road to win this weekend, 713 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 4: and now having to go to Philadelphia. I don't know 714 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 4: what the weather report is, but to your point, Rob, 715 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels is looking very very good as a rookie quarterback, 716 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 4: does not seem to be phased by anything, and right now, 717 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 4: if you believe in that momentum, I would put watch 718 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 4: into Commanders right now, maybe with a little bit of 719 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 4: a slight edge at least going in how you feel 720 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 4: about the game. 721 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 5: I thought, of anything, the environment in Detroit for that 722 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 5: game would have gotten to Jane Daniels. 723 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: It didn't. 724 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 5: He was as cool as a cucumber. And I think 725 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 5: going into Philadelphia that's that's obviously a rough environment for 726 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 5: any team coming in, especially given the NFC championship implications. 727 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 5: I don't think it's gonna phase him. I really don't. 728 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 5: This guy does not act like a rookie. He does 729 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 5: not certainly does not play like a rookie. I don't 730 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 5: think it's gonna phase Jade Daniels. The weather. I've looked 731 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 5: at the forecast. It looks cold, but it doesn't look 732 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 5: like there's any precipitation or rain or snow. So you know, 733 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 5: it's something that I think it's it's gonna be an 734 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 5: environment that Jane Daniels is going to be ready for. 735 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 5: And you're right. These teams have split during the regular season, 736 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 5: they're very well familiar with each other, being divisional foes. 737 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 5: So just an exciting rubber rubber match here. 738 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 6: You know, what's the remarkable Jane Daniels is that rookie 739 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 6: quarterbacks are zero to five in conference championship games. Okay, 740 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 6: so he's been breaking history all year long. Not be 741 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 6: shocked if he does it again. But if you look 742 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 6: at the other five rookie quarterbacks who got to a 743 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 6: conference championship game in NFL history, they all had a 744 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 6: top three defense first, second, or third every one of 745 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 6: those teams. Washington's defense was like eighteenth this year. It 746 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 6: is Jade Daniels who is carrying that team, whereas other 747 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 6: rookie quarterbacks were carried by the run game and their defense. 748 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 4: He also has a pretty decent offensive coordinator and Cliff Kingsbury. 749 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 4: Got to give a shout out to Cliff as well. 750 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens on Sunday. That is the 751 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 4: early game of Championships. Sunday, the late game, we'll talk 752 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 4: about the AFC as we continue here. It is the 753 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 4: Cardinals Red Sea report right here on the Arizona Cardinals 754 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 4: radio network. 755 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 9: Jackson, now rolling to his right, still looking down the field, 756 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 9: fires dep for. 757 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 8: The end zone in his caught hot diamond catch in 758 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 8: the end zone. Diy likely Isaia likely skinning across the 759 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 8: end zone, hauls it in and with one thirty three 760 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 8: to go, it's a two point game, a twenty forty 761 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 8: yard touchdown unlikely, and now. 762 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,439 Speaker 9: The Ravens haven't chance to time to receivers. Right one 763 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 9: lattis two pointer ties the game. Here's the snap. Jackson 764 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 9: will run to his right, he looks, he throws. 765 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 2: It is dropped. It is dropped. Andrews was opening up. 766 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 8: Pie line and dropped in his second drop of the game, 767 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 8: and the Bills maintain a two point lead twenty seven 768 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 8: to twenty five. 769 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 2: Andrews was open, the ball hit him in. 770 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 9: The chest and he could not hang on going to 771 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 9: the ground. 772 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 4: Gonna real live that moment for a long long time 773 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 4: if you're Mark Andrews. Ryan Radkey with the play by 774 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 4: play on Westwood One. Yeah, the Bills survive and knock 775 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 4: off the Ravens by the score of twenty seven to 776 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 4: twenty five. Mark Andrews had a fumble earlier in the game. 777 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 4: Going back to that conversation about turnovers, the Buffalo defense 778 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 4: three takeaways in that game. They led it twenty one 779 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 4: to ten at halftime. Ravens come all the way back, 780 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 4: but again some final plays Paul late, and unfortunately it's 781 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 4: the Ravens who will watch the Bills in the NF. 782 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 6: In the AFC, championship game. You know what's remarkable. Mark 783 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 6: Andrews had not had a fumble since twenty nineteen, and 784 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 6: he had no drops this year since Week six, and 785 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 6: he dropped two. So that was really tough. Scottsdale's own 786 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 6: by the way Mark Andrews, and but it was a 787 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 6: Baltimore team that you know, made enough other like there 788 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 6: was the other two point conversion where it was Mark 789 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 6: Andrews wide open or maybe was Isaiah likely earlier in 790 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 6: the game when it was twenty one to nineteen and 791 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson just had to throw it over the first 792 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 6: line of defense and he didn't. It was tipped. That 793 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 6: ball was tipped to the line of scrimmage. Though there 794 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 6: were enough plays, enough miscues, enough errors by other players 795 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 6: in that game, like trying to fit some of the 796 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 6: run game by Buffalo and Baltimore struggled at times in 797 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 6: that game. So were a lot of things that I 798 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 6: mean Baltimore and Lamar in the divisional round. It has 799 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 6: not been a formula for success. And at this point 800 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 6: you got to really look at some of your processes 801 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 6: if you're Baltimore. 802 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think to pin this on Mark Andrews 803 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 5: is unfair. If he would have caught that ball and 804 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 5: tied the game, Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills still 805 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 5: had a minute and a half too true to go 806 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 5: down the field and do whatever they wanted to do. Basically, 807 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 5: so I think everybody needs a layoff Mark Andrews a 808 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 5: little bit. But it was a great heavyweight match between 809 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 5: two MVP caliber and quality quarterbacks and Josh Allen and 810 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson, and you know, it was fun to watch. 811 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 5: You know, I feel for Baltimore because you know, I 812 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 5: feel like, you know, again, statistically, they out rushed, they 813 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 5: outpassed the Buffalo Bills, but it's those three turnovers again 814 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 5: that that really is the reason why they'll be sitting 815 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 5: at home next weekend. 816 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 4: And now you got the Bills advancing to face the 817 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC Championship game that will 818 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 4: be playing on Sunday four point thirty on CBS. The 819 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 4: Chiefs advanced to their seventh straight championship game, beating the 820 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 4: Texans twenty three to fourteen. The Kansas City defense eight sacks, 821 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 4: three by George Coloftis, so they're not getting the takeaways 822 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 4: in that game. But again, the strength of that Chiefs 823 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 4: team at least to me. Yeah, you've got Mahomes, you 824 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 4: got Kelsey. But more times than not, Paul, we've seen 825 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 4: that defense of Kansas City really either keep the offense 826 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 4: in shouting distance and then winning the game or just saying, 827 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 4: all right, we're going to take care of everything and 828 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 4: you guys can just have that quote unquote pedestrian kind 829 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 4: of stats, which Mahomes did one hundred and seventy seven 830 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 4: passing yards. That's not a big deal. 831 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 6: My eyes always go to Chris Jones. Right, you had 832 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 6: again first team All Pro interior d lineman. He is 833 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 6: that dude in the interior, and you know everyone else 834 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 6: is able to eat along that Kansas City front. George 835 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,879 Speaker 6: car loftis coming into his own, but don't forget Chris 836 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 6: Jones on the interior. And now, you know, I mean, 837 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 6: Kansas City is maybe the one element in today's society 838 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 6: that's capable of uniting this divided nation. You know, it's 839 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 6: just Kansas City fatigue. And here we are again, seventh 840 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 6: straight AFC Championship game. And I'll just say this, they're 841 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 6: the four team in NFL history to follow back to 842 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 6: back Lombardi Trophies by advancing to the conference title game 843 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 6: and the three previous lost. So if we're lucky as 844 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 6: a nation, that trend will continue and they'll come up 845 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 6: short against Buffalo because you can just field the nation 846 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 6: pulling for the bills. At this point, you know. 847 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 5: It's interesting about every weekend. You think, well, at some point, 848 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 5: the wheel's got to come off for Kansas City. You know, 849 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 5: they can't keep doing this and playing this poorly and 850 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 5: having the refs kind of help them out a little bit. 851 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 5: But at some point the wheels got to come off. 852 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 5: And they never do. Right, Kansas City just keeps doing 853 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 5: just enough, finding a way to get a win. You 854 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 5: said eight sacks, right, you know, so you know, offensively, 855 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 5: they don't look like much. Pat Patrick Mahomes looks very pedestrian, 856 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 5: he looks very normal. He's not, you know, lighting it up. 857 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 5: But yet they find a way. Defensively, they get eight sacks. 858 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 5: They do what they gotta do. They just when they 859 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 5: get in the red zone, all of a sudden, Travis 860 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 5: Kelsey's he's been missing in action for months and now 861 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 5: all of a sudden he's going for one hundred and 862 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 5: seventeen yards and one touchdown and seven receptions. So they 863 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 5: just keep doing what they gotta do, and they keep 864 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 5: coming away with w's. 865 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 6: I mean, Mahomes is seven to zero in his career 866 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 6: in divisional rounds. He's sixteen and three in the playoffs. 867 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 6: It just seems like they're gonna do just enough to 868 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 6: beat you whatever you bring to the table. Travis Kelce 869 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 6: just broke Jerry Rice's all time playoff record for most 870 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 6: games of the one hundred yards receiving. I mean, how 871 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 6: does he keep getting so wide open? 872 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 4: His ninth one hundred yard receiving game in the postseason. 873 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,720 Speaker 4: And now the rematch Bill's Chiefs. They met in Week eleven. 874 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 4: Buffalo won that game thirty to twenty one. If they 875 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 4: do it again on Sunday, they will head to the 876 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 4: Super Bowl and we will talk about the AFC Championship 877 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 4: Game and the NFC Championship Game in one week's time 878 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 4: right here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report Special. Thanks 879 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 4: to Jim Amahundro, Coddy Fincher, Evan Reiser for paulk Kyle 880 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 4: v c Ron, Frederickson. I'm Craig Rayelou. This is the 881 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 882 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,240 Speaker 1: You've been listening to the Cardinals Red Sea Report. 883 00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 2: It is caught by McBride. 884 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 3: It's a touchdown boot a Baker with the sacked strip 885 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 3: the ball. Hurry's gonna score touchdown, Oh baby. 886 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Red Sea Report is brought to you by 887 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals mobile app. Visit Azcardinals dot com, slash app, 888 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: touchdown Cardinals whim. 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