1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Ten five touchdown. Joe stand there is no off season 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: for your Houston Texans. Game day is every day. No, 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: it's Texans, All Lexans. What's going on? I already welcome 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: into a Tuesday edition of Texans All Access. I am 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: your host, Mark VanderMeer, the Voice of the Texans. No, 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just so used to hearing those words 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: to start off a Tuesday show. But Mark will not 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: be with me this evening. Oh something about I don't know, 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: partners and golf and making an appearance and shaking hands 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: of kissing baby sort of thing. So that's what the 11 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: Voice of Texans has been doing today. Meanwhile, I grind, 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: I kid a kid, not about that grind part. I mean, 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: I do that. I hate that word grind. He's just 14 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: watching tape and seeing if guys fit and whether they're 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: good or not. But that said, I'm just kidding Marks 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: out doing Yeoman's work for the Texans. He will be 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: back tomorrow on our Wednesday night show. I find a 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: Wednesday night draft show. But because Mark and are flipping 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: shows a figure, you know what, Let's do what we 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: do on Wednesday. Let's do that tonight and let's talk 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: a little draft, and I had this idea. I saw 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: I saw something posting on the twitters about the Texans 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: draft picks and where where they're drafting, And earlier this 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: week I had told my department that the Harris one 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: hundred has turned into a Harris two fifty, which is 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: longer than the Texans draft picks. The last Texans draft 27 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: pick is at two thirty three. Now the draft goes 28 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: I think to two fifty six if I remember in full, 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: so I'll add probably a few I'll make it probably 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: a Hairs three fifty before it's all said numb. But 31 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: right now it's Harris two fifty, and it was gonna 32 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: be a Harris two hundred. And then as I added 33 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: more players to my Harris one hundred, I'm like, oh man, 34 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: I've got two hundred and fifty players here. Oh well, 35 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing. Help we get ready for 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: the draft. It's no big deal. So I figured, all right, 37 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: what if at every single spot that won't happen. But 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: what if we unwrapped pick number sixty seven and you 39 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: already knew who it was going to be based on 40 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: the Harris one hundred. It's like, yeah, man, let's do 41 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: that let's see what we would do if we just 42 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: opened up the pack of cards, if you will, and 43 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: went with the number and where I have that player 44 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: in the Harris one hundred, and see what we'd come 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: up with. It's like unwrapping baseball cards. And I'll be honest, 46 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: I don't have I don't have any idea. So I'm 47 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: hitting you with this. I have no I didn't put 48 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: players at these positions. I just I just went with it. 49 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: I ranked them. I actually, for a long time, I 50 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: haven't really paid attention to I knew where the Texans were, 51 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: like rounds, how many they had in particular rounds. I 52 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: didn't know what numbers they were, and all that kind 53 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: of stuff. And for a long time, well you didn't 54 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: have the the supplemental picks and all that. That kind 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: of competitory picks in the order changes a lot. So 56 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: I figured, all right, let's do this first picks at 57 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: number sixty seven. If the Texans followed, oh boy, the 58 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: Harris one hundred to a t and just went, John, 59 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: we're going with everybody, just how you haven't ranked. Now, 60 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do this because I well maybe I wouldn't 61 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: do this. There would be some players I probably would 62 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: weed out that I don't think would be good for 63 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: the Texans. For us going forward, this guy at number 64 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: sixty seven would be fantastic. At number sixty seven, the 65 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Harris one hundred and in round three, at pick number 66 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: sixty seven, the Texans select Jamar Johnson, safety from out 67 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: of Indiana. Now, if you haven't seen him play, then 68 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: well let me introduce you. Young man from Florida, played 69 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: at Indiana ball hawk. When you go and you just 70 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: I try to watch as much as I can with her. 71 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: It's games on tape, whether it's on YouTube, whether it's 72 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: how anything to get my hand on, hands on, And 73 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: so I went to YouTube and I found this video 74 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: twenty He bought a number twenty two, So they had 75 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: twenty two plays that make Jamar Johnson a draft pick, 76 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: and it kind of canvasses his career. He's done some 77 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: stuff on the field, like wow, his best game I 78 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: thought was actually against Ohio State and justin fields. I 79 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: thought he played tremendous in that game. Now, I don't 80 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: think he's a great tackler, but I do think he's 81 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: a ball hawk and a good one at that. You 82 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: put Jamar Johnson in that secondary next to Justin Reid, 83 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: and at some point the ball is coming back over 84 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: to the other side, our side. Jamar Johnson pick number 85 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: sixty seven would be fantastic. Now, I didn't have him 86 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: in my initial Harris one hundred because he's off my 87 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: radar screen. He was a guy that declared declared early 88 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: for the draft, but did late in the process, and 89 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I gotta just watch 90 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: him later. I liked what I saw of him when 91 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: I just watched games, but I gotta study him a 92 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: ton of time. I'll do it later. When I did 93 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: it later, oh, I thought a guy that I really like. 94 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: All right, So Jamar Johnson is the day to pick. 95 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: You go home that night and you're like, how do 96 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: you feel about it? John? I feel really good. I 97 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: feel very good. So we move today three and it 98 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: starts at pick number one O nine. At pick number 99 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: one oh nine, Oh boy one O nine, the Texans 100 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: get a corner corner by the name of Ambree Thomas 101 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: from out of Michigan five eleven seven eighths, basically six 102 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: foot one nineties. So I'm at the Senior Bowl and 103 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: I thought he was kind of up or down some 104 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: people will have him a little bit higher. He's incredibly 105 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: tall out a guy four three seven to forty thirty 106 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: eight inch vert. I mean he's got physical skills. He 107 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: sat out twenty twenty dude COVID, and I don't know 108 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: if that's setting back a little bit. He had a 109 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: little bit of rust he had to shake off down 110 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. I don't know that he ultimately 111 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: did that. He's definitely a cover guy. He's not gonna 112 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: come up and hammer people at the point of attack. 113 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: But I think in man coverage, I think he would 114 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: fare a little bit better. I think corners that they're 115 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: gonna be good in man, I think it'd be okay. 116 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: And zone I think got pretty good instincts I would imagine, 117 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: and I feel that way with Amrey Thomas. But Ambry 118 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 1: Thomas getting him pick number one O nine, the first 119 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: and only pick the Texans have in the fourth round, 120 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: I feel it would be a solid pick. So we've 121 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: attacked the secondary by just going by what we have 122 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: in the Harris one hundred. So we go to the 123 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: fifth round. We got to pick one fifty seven, and 124 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm unveiling this just like I'm announcing it to you. 125 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: It's new to me. I mean, like I have players ranked, 126 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly where I have him ranks. So 127 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: when I get to one forty seven, oh my goodness. 128 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: This guy. Actually, when I think of him being at 129 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: one forty seven, I feel like, man, maybe I'm a 130 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: little low. But I talked about and we'll talk about 131 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: it in the next segment with Drew Doherty on our 132 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: in the Lab podcast. The receiver position is stacked, so 133 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to get at pick number one 134 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: forty seven in this draft from Stanford, seem Fehoko six 135 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: four two twenty two ran in the four four range 136 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: and I when I saw him during the year and 137 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: he took him, he took him more of the mission, 138 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: so he was gone, I think for two seasons. When 139 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: I saw him come back this year and I was like, 140 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: whoa right write his name down, like keep Fayhoko, um, 141 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, and he can't really like forget the name Fayhoko. 142 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: It's unique and his game is unique. A guy with 143 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: that size should not be that fast. And I feel 144 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: like maybe I'm short changing him at one forty seven. 145 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: But there are so many darkgood receiver in this draft. 146 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean that's let's see twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, 147 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: that's I mean, he's a twenty three receivers draft, and 148 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to make a case like can 149 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: you put him ahead of Austin Watkins. I don't think so. 150 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: That's Patrick. I don't know, but slants separation from DBS, 151 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: goes deep, picks it off DB's heads. I don't know 152 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: that he's a complete receiver, but to me, he's kind 153 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: of a He's kind of a poor man's Chase Claypool. 154 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: You know, Claypool was drafted by the Steelers. Some people 155 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: thought he was overdraft in second round, but he went 156 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh became a go to guy for Ben Roethlisberger 157 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: because of that athleticism. I think Semi Fijoco at one 158 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: forty seven could end up being a guy kind of 159 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: like that. All right, it's got to pick one fifty eight. 160 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: This one comes from the Patriots in a deal that 161 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: was made. I think this was a swap maybe with 162 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: the Marcus Cannon trade. At one fifty eight, the Texans 163 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: select this guy I saw at the senior boat. I'd 164 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: have my eyes on him for a couple of years now. Defensive, 165 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: tall defensive and Malik Herring now at Georgia he played 166 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: defensive end. He's two hundred and eighty three pounds. He 167 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: I think can play out on the edge. He to 168 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: me is somebody that might be out on the edge 169 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: on first and second down and then move inside to 170 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: rush on third down. You know, something like Charles A 171 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: Manner who could could potentially do depending on how you 172 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: put the pieces together out on the edge. You know, 173 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: if you want to get your best rushers, you know, 174 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: out on the field, you might have to have somebody 175 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: go inside. Malik Harring is a guy that could absolutely 176 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: do that. Play the run on first, second down, jump inside, 177 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: rush against the guard. He's not as long as Charles Manhu, 178 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: but he plays the game violently out on the edge, 179 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: sets the edge. I think he would be a fantastic 180 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: pick at one fifty eight. Malik Herring, thus far, following 181 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: the Harris one hundred has gotten us a safety, a 182 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: ball hawking safety, a man of man, a corner, a 183 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: sixty four, two hundred twenty pound wide receiver, runs in 184 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: the four four range with a ton of webside and 185 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: Malik Harry a very versatile and here's the thing. Versatile 186 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: doesn't mean a guy can just line up and play 187 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: different spots. First of all, means a guy can line 188 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: up and be good at different spots. So there you're 189 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: going to pick one fifty eight Malik Herring. All right, 190 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: move on into the sixth round and we go to 191 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: pick number one nine five oh Man, one ninety five. 192 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: Ye Now, sal said down, he might be a little 193 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: higher than one ninety five. But here's the issue with 194 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: Avery Williams from Boise State. He played corner, he played nickel. 195 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: I think he's probably a nickel. He's he's under five nine, 196 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: he's five eight, and he's less than five eight and 197 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: a half. He's one hundred and eighty seven pounds. But 198 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: he is dynamic with the ball in his hands. There 199 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: are some teams that work him out at Pro Day 200 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: at running back. If there is a team that I 201 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: could see him going to where hey, you might play nickel, 202 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: you might play running back, you might return, you might 203 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: do all of those things. I think this one would 204 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: be a great spot. The Patriots is the that's the 205 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: first one you think about because if they've done it before, 206 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: guys like Troy Brown, Julian Edelman rushed from the edge 207 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: playing a nickel Aavie Williams could be that guy at 208 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: one five in the sixth round. Very very intriguing, all right, 209 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: That pick came from the Cowboys and Patriots go to 210 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: number two oh three. This went through a number of 211 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: different teams before it got here in a two oh 212 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: three Penn State transfer. In the clients, one of my 213 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: good friends, Zach mcthierson, having met two oh three again, 214 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: might be a little law on him. I feel like 215 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: he's he's gonna be gone before two oh three, So 216 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: I know I've got some adjustments to do here. But 217 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: Zach mcfierson comes in five eleven ninety one, has the 218 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: ability planning outside transfer from Penn State four to five 219 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: one in the forty forty and a half inch vertical. 220 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what those numbers he's gonna get down 221 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: to two h three. I really don't, but I should 222 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: look at me, look around my list. I figure, okay, 223 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: how can I move things around? I probably would give 224 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: him a little bit better the benefit of the doubt 225 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: that he does played corner, so I don't think he's 226 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: gonna be there two oh three. But right now, that's 227 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: what the Harris one hundred says, and that's what we're 228 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: going with. Actually, the Harris two fifty al right, next 229 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: pick is at two twelve. This one comes from the Saints, 230 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: and it's the last one of round six and at 231 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: two twelve, Tyree Gillespie. Okay, I guarantee you. Tyree Gillespie's 232 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: not there. At two twelve runs extremely well. I think 233 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: he's got some undisciplined parts to his game, and as 234 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: part of the reason why I don't have him ranked 235 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: higher than where I think he's gonna go. I think 236 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna end up on it to fifty sixth round. 237 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get all the way late 238 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: sixth round. But Tyree Gillespie to go along with Jamar Johnson. 239 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: Guy's gonna be incredible on special teams. But he is 240 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: a hammer hammer. I didn't love him at the Senior Bowl. 241 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: That was one of the reasons why I was not 242 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: hopped up on him. All right's get to the last pick, 243 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: round seven, two thirty three. This is according to Harris 244 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: one hundred right now, and had picked two thirty three. 245 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: Oh boy, this might be. I think I've got Ernest Brown, 246 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: the fourth from Northwestern, very low I was actually studying 247 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: Greg Newsom in the Big Ten championship game and number 248 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: ninety nine made a play, and I'm like, yo, who 249 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: is that dog? Ernest Brown from Northwestern. It was kind 250 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: of it was a quiet declaration. I did not hear 251 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: that he had declared for the draft, and so I 252 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: was kind of going by my business and I'm like, 253 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: who's this guy? And I saw my fine Ernest browab like, okay, 254 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: I gotta track this guy in the future. And then 255 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: I read somewhere where he declared. So I don't know 256 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: that I've done my absolute, complete due diligence on Ernest Brown. 257 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: I think this dude can absolutely play. There's no question. 258 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: You walk out of there with this list of players. 259 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: Man holy smokes. Jamar Johnson in the third round at 260 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: pick one oh nine. We had Ambrey Thomas at pick 261 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: one forty seven. I don't we Oh yeah. We had 262 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: Semi Fihoko at pick number one fifty eight. We had 263 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: Malik Harry the defensive end from Georgia one ninety five. 264 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: We had Avery Williams cornerback, Nico Return running back, all 265 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: round weapon, Avery Williams from Boise State at two oh three. 266 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: Zach McPherson, the corner from Texas Tech, the transfer of 267 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: Penn State. At two twelve, Tyree Gillespie, the safety from Missouri, 268 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: and at two thirty three Ernest Brown, the fourth from 269 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: the Northwestern defensive end light Herring who could play outside, 270 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: can maybe rushed inside. He' two hundred seventy pounds, so 271 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: I could see him kind of sticking on the outside 272 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: thirty four and a half in charms. He's closer in 273 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: body types to Charles, a man who than the Malik. 274 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: Is Malik's bigger, thicker, but not as long. Very interesting 275 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: as you had those two guys to the edge, one 276 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: offensive player in that mix, depending on how you every Williams. 277 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: So there you go, a little mock draft Harris two 278 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: fifty style. All right, we get back Drew and I 279 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: are going to talk about any number of things. 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As John Harris your host, Football Knowlson, solid reporter, 297 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: flying solo and kind of because it's time to go 298 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: in the lab with myself from a podcast podna Drew 299 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: doherty Man. We hit on a little bit of everything, 300 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: and I can't believe I didn't bring this up yesterday Saturday. 301 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: Congratulations to Sam Houston Bearcat Football Southland Conference champions five 302 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: and Oho. They could lose this weekend to UIW down 303 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: in San Antonio, but it won't matter because they've got 304 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: two games up on everybody with one to play. Congratulations 305 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: the last time they'll be in the south Land Conference. 306 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: Drew and I talked a little bit about that. We 307 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: talked about a visit with a good old Texan and 308 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: then what potential receivers, what the Texans look at at 309 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: number sixty seven and beyond here's in the lab. We've 310 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: not given this the proper recognition, proper attention. But you've 311 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: been calling football games for a while. You're in the spring, 312 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: and that's that's I mean, that's an exciting that's so 313 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: much fun to do a call games, right, yeah, yeah, 314 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: in the color commentary. But how has spring football been 315 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: for you? I'm sure in many ways it's like riding 316 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: a bike. It's like, uh, you know what what you do. 317 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: But I'm sure in other ways it's just surreal and 318 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: weird that you're calling games or that as opposed to 319 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: in the autumn. Give me, um, give us the readers 320 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: digest version of how this has all gone down for you, 321 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: because I know it's weird like the rest of COVID, 322 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, why has it been weird for you? I'll 323 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: be honest, I don't know that it really has. Just 324 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: the dating time, I mean, honestly, huh, the there been crowds. 325 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: Sam's band has been there on the far side. I've 326 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: been calling the games for same Pista State. I've done 327 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: their three home games. They've won the Southland. They with 328 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: their five and zero and they needed uh in Carnet 329 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: Word to lose to Northwestern Safe to be outright champs. 330 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: They've got one more game against the Carnet Work, which 331 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: was supposed to be at the beginning of the year. 332 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: But the winter storm. You know, that's different. The winter 333 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: storm knocked that game out, moved that game to the 334 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: end of the year. But you know, Dre, I think 335 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, the one difference really if there, if there 336 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: is one, is just weather. You know, those first games 337 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: in September can be a disaster. I mean they're just 338 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: guys falling out, cramping up. You know, it's ninety five degrees, 339 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: it's one hundred percent humidity, and I mean it's just brutal, 340 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: even up in the in the press box. We got 341 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: the windows open, and it's just, man, We've got to 342 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: get through this game. Last week's game, last Saturday's game 343 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: we did against Big Nice. It was seventy five degrees 344 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: but about a ten to fifteen amount hour win. It 345 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: was just gorgeous and I was like, I can't Yeah, 346 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: I can get used to this. But in all honesty, Drew, 347 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll tell you that there really isn't 348 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: anything weird about it other than one odd thing. And 349 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: maybe I'm the only one that picked this up. I 350 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: can't figure out who's eligible for the NFL Draft and 351 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: who isn't. Oh yeah, and it's really it's it's it's odd. 352 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: I saw a post by a defensive linement from Stony 353 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: Brook and he posted I'm going to the NFL drafted 354 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. This was like maybe two weeks ago, 355 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: and I thought that I had heard. I thought I 356 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: heard this on March first. Those players had to decide. 357 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: I've seen a couple other players. There was a quarterback somewhere. 358 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: I just got to a point in the year where 359 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: he's like, I'm done. I've done going to NFL Draft. 360 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: I've taken as far as I'm going going to NFL Draft. 361 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: So I've talked to coach Keeler about this case, secular 362 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: head coach at Sam Houston, and basically what he's gotten 363 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: from his guys that if they're playing right now in 364 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: the spring. They'll be back for the fall because they 365 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: want the full fallum experience, having scouts on campus doing 366 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: the full you know, another full season, and a lot 367 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: of those guys didn't get a red shirt ear and 368 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: so this is acting as a red shirt ear really, 369 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be tough for them because they're they're 370 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: tough five in the country. I think they're one of 371 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: the two or three best teams in the country. So 372 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: they could be playing all the way through this thing, 373 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: which I think is the end of May, and then 374 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: they got to turn around playing fall season starting end 375 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: in August, beginning of September, and they go into a 376 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: new conference to whack. So there are a lot of 377 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: things going on, but really, Drew, the only thing that's 378 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: that's troubling, and I didn't know it's troubling, But this 379 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: is odd is who's elding for the draft? Because there's 380 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: some guys I look at and go, Okay, I could see, 381 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: you know us the Texans, right, we should look at 382 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: that guy. That guy could be an undraft the free agent. 383 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: But I'm watching these guys going are they in the 384 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: draft or they staying? It's really hard. I did a 385 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 1: game against Nichols. Nichols as a wide receiver by name 386 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: of Dejoan Dixon, very good players, six three two hund pounds, 387 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: athlete to run, do everything. He got an invite to 388 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: the Combine, but he continues to play through the season, 389 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: so I don't know if he's going in the draft. 390 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: It's just odd. Other than that, Drew, it feels like 391 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm calling a game in October with beautiful weather, sunny day, 392 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: and it just it feels the same, and it feels good. 393 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: And we don't have a travel conflict at all. So 394 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: I was able to do all of same of Houston's 395 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: home games, which is fun. And I don't get a 396 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: chance to do that during a year because we're traveling. 397 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: So we try and match up my schedules with theirs, 398 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: and I only get a few games, but I got 399 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: all three home games and that was really fun. Yeah, 400 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: I thought about that, and I thought, that's that's gotta 401 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: be really cool for him. You know, John's gotta love 402 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: that because, yeah, you know, because of the Texans, half 403 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: their games are on the road. You got you you 404 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: had a chance, you had to miss some of these opportunities, 405 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: So I'm glad you gotta do that because that's that's 406 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: one of the most fun things to do, I know, 407 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: be up in the booth. You know, you've been in 408 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: Huntsville quite a bit for the same Houston Games, not 409 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: just the spring before and last Thursday about I don't know, 410 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: seventy eighty miles to the west of Huntsville roughly, we 411 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: just worked with me here. Yeah, I was in a 412 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: place called Plantersville. Most people know Plantersville because of the 413 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: Renaissance Fest. And then kind of near there is Gary Kubiak. 414 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: He's retired, and we got a chance to go up 415 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: to Kubiak's ranch and we spent the morning with him, 416 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: put a microphone on him, just walked around his beautiful 417 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: property and he just told us stories. And we're gonna 418 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: have something really, really cool sexist TV in the next 419 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: few weeks. But I put I put a little picture 420 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: of me and coach Kubiak up on my Instagram last 421 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: Thursday and got a lot of a lot of fun reactions. 422 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: But it was good to see that dude, and I 423 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: hadn't seen him, really had a chance to talk with 424 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: him since twenty thirteen, you know. Yeah, Yeah, Unfortunately, the 425 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: way things go, players coaches when they get let go 426 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: from place, you don't really get a chance to talk 427 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: to him or have a sense you know, here and 428 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: there you've run into guys as it's happening, you know, 429 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: Kevin Walter, I got to say bye to uh Jay 430 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: Prosh one time right outside my office. Have stayed by too, 431 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: but by and large you don't get to see these guys. 432 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: And so I'd run into coach Kubiak at the Combine 433 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: a couple of times, but you know how those things go. 434 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: You know, you're assid He's got to be somewhere. You 435 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: gotta be somewhere. So it was nice to hear from him, 436 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: and he's doing really well and got lee. He has 437 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: the coolest set up out there, and he's got memory. 438 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: The memorabilia alone, oh I mean had a replica Man 439 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: of the Lombardi Trophy. He he had his his Denny's 440 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: menu is play sheet from Won that's in a frame 441 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: and it's fascinating. I gotta go. He had some really 442 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: fun stories. I'm glad he's doing well and he's still 443 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: involved in football, and you know, I'm fascinated to see 444 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: what's next for him. But right now he's retired in uh, 445 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: he's he I can't remember what he said, but he's like, 446 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm given anything up. I'm not I'm not done with football, 447 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: but I'm just not working for a team right now. 448 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: But it was really cool to see kubs you know what, Drew. 449 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: I It's interesting because I feel like the passage of 450 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: time either forces us, you know, sports fans whatever, to 451 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: back on things and go, Okay, that wasn't really as 452 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: cool as I remember. Yeah, but there are also times 453 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: where we look back and go, you know what, that 454 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: guy was a lot better than we think of. A 455 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: match job is one of the first one that comes 456 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: to Bud. That was very good. The ending was just spectacular. 457 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: It just was like I mean, it wasn't like slow. 458 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: It was just like I think with Gary Kubiak. I 459 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: hope in due time that Texans fans are just fans 460 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: in the city of Houston understand you know what he's 461 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: meant to the city of Houston as a as a 462 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: football contributor, if you will, you know, playing at Pious, 463 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: going to eight am, winning a ring with dever Broncos 464 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: as a coach, but then coming back to Houston and yeah, 465 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: being the head coach here, getting this team to the 466 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: playoffs for the first time in the franchise history, and 467 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: he did it all as the right way of saying. 468 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: It's just a good guy. I mean, look, you got 469 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: to make some tough decisions as a coach, and so 470 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna be players that look at you, well, he's 471 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: a bad guy because he coming. He just was always 472 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: me as just a straight up good guy. I was 473 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: with we were at the Combine. We're at the Combine. 474 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: This is probably two three years ago. We're at the 475 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: Combine and we make that same walk from our hotel. 476 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: We're taking the tunnels or whatever you call him, and 477 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: we're walking through and we see coach Kobya. I'm talking 478 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: to Mark, so I'm kind of looking at him and 479 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: I see his face just light up, and I was like, 480 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: I know that's not because it's something that I said. 481 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: So I look ahead and there's coach Kobyak and it was, 482 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: believe it or not. It was the first time that 483 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: I had been introduced to him. I never I had 484 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: never met him before that, and so he just marked 485 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: how you do when he asked how crin the kids 486 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 1: were doing. And then he's hey, John, nice to meet you. 487 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: And we're walking away and he goes, Mark, hey, give 488 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: me a call anytime you want to go up to 489 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: the ranch. I'm assuming your planners, so yeah, just letting 490 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: me know, Just let me know. And I think Mark 491 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: as we walk away, and I was like, you're gonna 492 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: make that call? Or what we're gonna get up to 493 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: the ranch or what are we doing here? He's like 494 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: you just start laughing and joking. But it was just 495 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: he just seems so genuine and I think that can't 496 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: be taken for granted. And I'm glad he was able 497 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: to coach here in Houston. Like you said, I he 498 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: is he done? I don't know. I don't. I don't 499 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: think so. And the thing about it is maybe done 500 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: with coaching, because that's a that's a grind man, that's 501 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: an absolute grime, especially for him was had some health problems. 502 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: But he's a wealth of football knowledge. Oh my god, 503 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: that can be utilizing in a number of different ways. 504 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: One thing, I don't know if it's gonna make it 505 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 1: into the whatever we do with it. We can make 506 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: a show out of this. But we were out in 507 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: an office of his there and he pointed the wall 508 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: and he had this thing and he considers himself as 509 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: part of the Bill Walsh coaching tree, right right, I'm 510 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Yeah, you know Shanahan all that stuff, 511 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: and you know, he had this thing, it was the 512 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: Walsh coaching Tree and had all the faces and he 513 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: was talking about how proud he was to be a 514 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: part of that. So my fall up was, you got 515 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: a nice tree of your own, and he was. He 516 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: appreciated that question because think about the guys that are 517 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: in the league now, Solid or just to name a few, 518 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: La Floor, I mean, they all were here, Kyle Shannahan 519 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: out in San Francisco, and I'm leaving names out, and 520 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: there's gonna be names that keep popping up in the future. 521 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: I think Demiko Ryan absolutely as coaching out in San Francisco. 522 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: He learned a lot under Kubiak. So yeah, it's been Stefanski, 523 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: you know include Oh yeah, I know he's not directly yeah, 524 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: but and yeah, his influence on people, He's gonna be 525 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: one to definitely keep an eye on. But you just 526 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: mentioned influence, and I mean there are probably coaches that 527 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: he didn't even coach with that in some way, shape 528 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: or form, had you know, he had influence on in 529 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: some way. So I'm glad you got a chance to 530 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: do that. Man, That's that's really cool. And you bring 531 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: up a great point, and we don't we live in 532 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: the building, but we don't get a chance to see 533 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: these guys when they're cut or they move on, or 534 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: they sign a new contract. You know, every so often 535 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: you get the opportunity you see a different a different 536 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: a player in a different variety and in a different 537 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: way and location. I had that with Tyrn. Matthew and 538 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: Tyr and I had talked, you know, a bunch while 539 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: he was here, and I have to know him a 540 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, but then he signs to go to 541 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: Kansas City, and you're like, you know, maybe you know 542 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna be over in Kansas City. We might play him, 543 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: you know maybe. So in Kansas City, you kind of 544 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: got to walk this maze to get to the press box. 545 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: And so I happened to be walking back down the 546 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: press box to the field and he was coming back 547 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: off the field from his pre pregame routine. You gotta 548 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: go buy the Chiefs locker room, and you gotta go 549 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: right buy the Chiefs locker room, and he just saw 550 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: me and his eyes lit up. And we had a 551 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: big hug for you know minute, So it was just 552 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: it was kind of hello, but it was also a 553 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: goodbye too, you know. So it's it's kind of a weird. 554 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: It's kind of a weird deal, and sometimes you don't 555 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: get to do that until, you know, years down the road. 556 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: I hope I can be there for Dwayne Brown when 557 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: he decides to retire, just so I can I can 558 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: tell him, see told you you didn't make it. Put 559 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: the film on, bro. All right, talk a little bit 560 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: about the wide receivers in this draft, because last week 561 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: we talk about running backs. But yeah, guys who can 562 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: catch the ball in this draft? Who you think are 563 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: going to be around when the Texans are picking at 564 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: sixty seven. Now they've got eight picks. Obviously no first, 565 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: obviously no second because of the Tunsil trade. So right 566 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: now it's it's sixty seven. That could change, clearly, ya 567 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: Probably if it changes, it would be them moving back 568 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: to to ac crew more picks this year next. But anyways, 569 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: who might be somebody to keep an eye on when 570 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: the Texans are on the board Friday night in less 571 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: than a month at the wide receiver spot. Here's what's interesting, Drew, 572 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned trading back if let's say, and maybe this 573 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: isn't the case, but let's say wide receiver is number one. 574 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: We want to receive. We want to receivers early as possible, 575 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: and we want a really good one that come in 576 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: as a potential will be a number one wide receiver 577 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: down the road, guy in catch seventy seventy five passes, 578 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, be a go to guy, et cetera. They 579 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: could trade down from sixty seven and still find that guy. 580 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: I think that rich of a draft at the receiver spot. Huh, Drew. 581 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,239 Speaker 1: I I wrote an article on Friday and I just 582 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: did my receivers, and what I realized was my goodness. 583 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: First of all, when you talk about receivers, you've got 584 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: your outside guys, kind of your ex receivers, you know 585 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: what DeAndre Hopkins was. And then you got your inside guys, 586 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: your slot guys that are mainly in that that that position. 587 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: You know, the Julian Edelman types, if you will, tip 588 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: of the captain. Julian for a great career, retired yesterday, 589 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: thank god, and they kind of split up that way. Drew, 590 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: I have twenty one now. I took Harris one hundred 591 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: I went all the way to fifty, but I decided 592 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,479 Speaker 1: I could just go on and on and on about receivers. 593 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: Twenty one ten X receivers, routside receivers, eleven slot slash 594 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: weapon X types, twenty one receivers in the top one 595 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: thirty three of this draft. Really so, I think very 596 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: highly these groupers and it makes look, it makes perfect sense. 597 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: There's so much seven on seven going on. Receivers have 598 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: really become amongst young kids. That's what they want to be. 599 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: They want to go catch the football. That's that's their thing. 600 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: You know, they watched DeAndre, they watch it Beckham junior, 601 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: they watched the fund Digs. They want to be those guys. 602 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: They don't want to play corner anymore. The irony is 603 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: that the corners in his draft are all sons of 604 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: NFL players. Seemingly that said, no, no no, no, you're not 605 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: playing receiver. You're gonna play corner because you're gonna make 606 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,479 Speaker 1: a bunch of money covering these guys. But I do 607 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: think at sixty seven there are a lot of potential options. 608 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: Tylan Wallace from Oklahoma State, I would love tough grid 609 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: everything you want to receiver catches everything great Rotch just 610 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: has all the little nuances to be in a receiver, 611 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: not dynamic speedwise, but everything else you're gonna watter receiver. 612 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: He's got it. Two guys that I like. One I 613 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: know is in the in the Harris one hundred is 614 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: Josh Palmer from Tennessee. I came back from the Senior 615 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: Bowl and I was scoured. I was like, I gotta 616 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: find Tennessee stuff. I gotta watch this guy. I didn't 617 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: watch Tennessee hardly at all, the volunteers hardly at all 618 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. Just didn't. They weren't very good. I 619 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: didn't want to waste my time watching the team wasn't 620 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: very good. I heard about him, but like watching with 621 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, he was incredible. Came back watch the 622 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: Tennessee from like, Wow, I love this guy. I think 623 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: he's very good. Dead Fitzpatrick fitz Fitzpatrick, who's just outside 624 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: the one hundred from Louisville. He's kind of a poor 625 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: man's Keenan Allen. Because I'm watching him, that's just kind 626 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: of the mannerisms and the way he runs his routes 627 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: and the way he did things that was Keenan Allen 628 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: to me. There are just a lot of guys that 629 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: really confided and then you got some of your small 630 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: slot receivers, maybe to two out Well from Louisville. Look, 631 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: he's under fifty five pounds. Would it be the fastest 632 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: guy in the field every time he's on the field, 633 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: you know a guy like that. Does a guy like 634 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: ron Dale Moore from Purdue slip all the way to 635 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: sixty seven? I wouldn't imagine that he would. But if 636 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: teams are concerned about where he fits, is he a 637 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: running out because he a slow receiver? What don't mind me? 638 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: I'll take him at sixty seven because he's a football player. 639 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: He squatch seven hundred pounds even though he's five seven 640 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: one eighty and once he gets a ball in his hands, 641 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: he's like girl Campbell. He is as difficult to tackle 642 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: as anybody. So there's the things that could happen draft night. 643 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: They can make things, some things interesting, But when it 644 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: comes to the receiver position, it is loaded, loaded with guys, 645 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: even guys that are outside the one hundred, some guys 646 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: with some question marks that I really like his players. 647 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: Terry from Florida State is a perfect example of that. 648 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: Left the team in twenty twenty just kind of out 649 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: of the blue, and there'd been some issues before that. 650 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: But you put on the tape against C. J. Henderson, 651 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: who is the number one corner with the Jackson Jaguars, 652 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you he blew up Henderson. But he's 653 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: had two issues off the field. Is that somebody that 654 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: the Texas would come through away? If you've got the 655 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: issues behind him and he can move on, They're gonna 656 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: be a few guys like that down the road as well. 657 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: This is going to be a position they can find 658 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: a big time baller in the fourth round. I don't 659 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: think Jenny question about it. In my mind, good stuff. 660 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: We're talking about the defense next week because I kind 661 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: of think that's where they're gonna go with sixty seven too. 662 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 1: I probably should have prefaced this whole wide receiver talk 663 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: with that, but anyways, he's sort of set it up 664 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: with the fourth round. I tend to think it's gonna 665 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: be defensive number sixty seven as well. But I think 666 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: the Texans to set themselves up to take the best 667 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: available player, and maybe that's a defensive player, maybe that's 668 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Look, there's gonna be run quarterbacks, there's probably 669 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: gonna be a run on. I would say wide receivers. 670 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: There's gonna be run on running backs that would make 671 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: sense at number sixty seven or before sixty seven. So 672 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: I do think I got a feeling that they're gonna 673 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: be some big defensive linemen that are sitting there at 674 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: sixty seven, because I don't see many going in the 675 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: first round. Christian Barmore might be the only one I 676 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,479 Speaker 1: could think of from that perspective. Leave I'll looz Rique 677 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: from out of Washington. Easy for me to say he 678 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: might be there, and I think he would be a 679 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: fantastic first round pick. But after that, I think there's 680 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: gonna be some defensive lineman there. A lot of people 681 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: say this is not a great defensive lineman draft, and 682 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: obviously we don't have but one potentially going in the 683 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: first round. I think you can agree with that. However, 684 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: we'll look at these defensive lineman next week on in LAB. 685 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: But it's a fun discovery, no less, looking at this 686 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: defensive line of what the Texans might do. All right, 687 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna finish up by going around the league. And 688 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: I mentioned last night a story of how Paul Blart 689 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: ball cop and the AFC South came together in some way. Yeah, 690 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: it happened. We'll talk about that next, right, Aaron Texans 691 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: Bloxas Texans All Access continues in a moment. Hey, parents 692 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: and teachers, we know teaching kids at home can be hard, 693 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: and teaching math can be even harder. Well, Schlumberjay and 694 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans are here to make math fun with 695 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: the Texans Stats Challenge. 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Oh yeah, 705 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: don't have fomo. If I ever use the words fomo, 706 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: you can find me and hit me with a whip 707 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: of them all bat if you would like, I am 708 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: your host, John Harris Football on outside of the reporter. 709 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: Mark will be back tomorrow. He will we traded days basically, 710 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: so he'll be back. He's he's doing the he's doing 711 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: the good work of the people, for the Texans of 712 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: the fact. I think there's a big like partner ownership 713 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: golf outing thing. I hope they got it in. It's 714 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: been gray all day. It's just felt like it's gonna 715 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the humanity is like a thousand percent, which 716 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 1: I'm sure surprises you. On April thirteenth, I say April 717 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: thirteenth because I gotta remind myself the Justin Fields Trey 718 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: Lance pro days tomorrow with the people in making an 719 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: appearance that are supposed to be I e. Kyle Shanahan. 720 00:37:53,520 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: I just I can't imagine Kyle Shanahan giving up what 721 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: they did. And by the way, I've heard a lot 722 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: of people say, oh, John Lynch's GM, he's oneh did it. No, no, no, no, no. 723 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's pulling the He's pulling the marionette strings there 724 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. No, there's no doubt about it. Well, 725 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 1: its title says GM. Okay, look just because guys, title 726 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: says GM thirty two different teams do it thirty two 727 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: different ways, and there are teams that are head coach driven. 728 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: The San Fecisco forty Niners are one of those. I 729 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: can't believe. Come back to what I just said, Kyle 730 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: Shanahan gave up that much to go up from mac Jones. 731 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: I think mac Jones is a fine quarterback. I do 732 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: not think he is at a level the other guys are. 733 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: From a ceiling standpoint, you trade up for a guy 734 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: you think has a ceiling that is higher than another guy. 735 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: When the Bears moved up one pick in twenty seventeen 736 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: to go get Mitchell Trubisky, it was because Ryan Pace 737 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: believed in his heart the Mitchell Trubisky's ceiling was higher 738 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: than any other quarterback in that draft, including Mahomes and Watson. 739 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: That's what he that's what he anticipated. He was wrong, 740 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: and a lot of times guys are gms are and 741 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: sometimes it costs GM's jobs. That said, he thought he 742 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: had the highest ceiling. I think Trey Lance and Justin 743 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: Field's ceiling is well beyond mac Jones. Now their floor 744 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 1: is well below mac jones floor, So there's a smaller 745 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: delta between the ceiling and the floor. But I don't 746 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: get that with Kyle Shanahan. If he if he's saying that, 747 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo's this guy for at least twenty twenty one. Now, 748 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: take a guy you think has got an enormous ceiling 749 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: that can sit and wait and maybe he'll get to 750 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: that ceiling. Alla Patrick Mahomes What Mahomes did, sat all 751 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: seventeen waiting behind Alex Smith, got a shot in eighteen 752 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: and obviously the rest is history. But those pro days 753 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: can be taken place on April fourteen. So I had 754 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: to say that now I talked. I meant to talk 755 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 1: about this last night and then got on some topic 756 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: at the end of the show, and oh, I was 757 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: talking about Clowney and I wasn't able to get to this. 758 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: But I one of my favorite things on Twitter, and 759 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm not how do I say this? Twitter is like 760 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: air and water, you like have to have it, you 761 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: don't you know like it, You just you have to 762 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: have it. Now. I don't know about flavored air, but 763 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: like you know, some flavored waters are pretty good. I 764 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: like them. I look forward to them. Like my sparkling ices, 765 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: I look forward to them. Those are flavored sparkling Waters. 766 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: I look forward to that more than I douce record 767 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: the Water. But Twitter it's just like air water. It's 768 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: like it's where you get your news. But I could 769 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: do without one hundred percent of the trolls and the 770 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: vitriolic stuff and all that kind of stuff. But I 771 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: am one thousand percent there for NFL team on NFL 772 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 1: Team Twitter Crime, I love it. So here's the story, 773 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: and Sean et Seth got into this a little bit. 774 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: Today a movie is being made about the year that 775 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: Sean Payton had to spend away from the Saints. You 776 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,800 Speaker 1: remember bounty Gate. Some of you may not remember. Sometimes 777 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: I have to be reminded, like, oh yeah, bounty Gate, Yeah, 778 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: I remember that. If you don't remember bounty Gate essentially 779 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: what it was in two thousand and nine the Saints 780 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 1: with Greig Williams's defensive coordinator, where Williams was giving out 781 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: bonuses money to his guys if they would take out 782 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: dudes on the other side, and there was a lot 783 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: made about some things on the sideline of the nine 784 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game about Brett Barr and that became known 785 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: as bounty Gate. Sean Payton suffered probably the harshest I guess. 786 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: I guess Greig Williams did for a little while, but 787 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: he got back in the game, So what are you 788 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: gonna do? But Sean Payton had to sit out for 789 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: a year, and so during that year he ended up 790 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 1: coaching his son's junior high team. Well, I think it's Disney, 791 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 1: maybe Disney. It sounds like it's a Disney kind of film. 792 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: Disney decided they didn't really care about the bounty Gate part, 793 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: but they cared about the Sean Payton NFL coach coaching 794 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: his son's seventh grade twelve year old right seven or 795 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: seventh or eighth grade team. And so yesterday, no, it 796 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: was today. Today is Tuesday. Yeah, so yesterday it was 797 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: announced that Kevin James was going to be Sean was 798 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: gonna play Sean Payton in this movie. Everybody was like, 799 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: oh my god, what really does that make sense? Well, 800 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons decided, okay, they were gonna have some 801 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,479 Speaker 1: fun with that, and so they took Paul Blart Mall 802 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 1: cop and they put Sean Payton's photo over it and 803 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: it out. It wasn't like, Okay, we're just gonna mess 804 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: around here, but we're gonna leave it in our do 805 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: not sendbox. No, they sent it. The Atlanta Falcons put 806 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: it out of Paul Blart mall cop with Sean Payton's 807 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: picture over it. I'm like, oh, this is this is 808 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: awesome because a couple of years ago these two went 809 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: at it with their schedule release videos the Falcons had done, 810 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: which it was the year after the Saints had lost 811 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: in the championship game because of the non call on 812 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: the sideline, and they had a Ram on their on 813 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: their video when they announced their Saints came. They had 814 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: some Saints jazz performers outside the Superdome and then they 815 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: had a Ram running them over. The Falcons have gone 816 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 1: after the Saints, and the Falcons have no right really 817 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 1: to go after the Saints. It's not like the Falcons 818 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: have done anything lately. So the the Saints decided they 819 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 1: weren't to take that line down. So the Saints then 820 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: retweeted that with a tweet that said, the longest running 821 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 1: show in Atlanta, the King of Beating Atlanta, playing off 822 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: the Kevin James like James being in that and I'm 823 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: just looking at the Falcons tweet. Can't wait. Paul Blart 824 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 1: Mallkopetitch on Payton's face over Kevin James. I am all 825 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: for the NFL team account on team account sniping all 826 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: about it. And these two teams do not their fan 827 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: bases and lanterne they do not like each other. These 828 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: two teams do not like each other, and they let 829 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: everybody know it, which I absolutely think is awesome. I 830 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: love it. Falcons and Saints, you can it's still up. 831 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: They haven't taken it down as far as I can tell. 832 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: If you go to the Saints let me give you 833 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: go to the Saints Twitter page, you'll end up seeing it. 834 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: But it's I mean, it's awesome stuff to me to 835 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: see that kind of it's all in good fun. I mean, 836 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: the the people that run on Twitter accounts and the 837 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: social media accounts for each team. I mean, obviously I 838 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: work closely with him. They're just they're awesome, awesome people, 839 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: incredible people. And I can imagine the ones in Atlanta 840 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: and New Orleans are the same. So that was that 841 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: was just a fun little look at this. It made 842 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 1: me chuckle yesterday when I when I ended up seeing that. 843 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: So when the Falcons and Saints play each other, Sean 844 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: Payton's gotta have Kevin James on the sideline, like he's 845 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: got to have Kevin James on the sideline. Sean Payton, 846 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: of all people, has got to be able to take 847 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: this to a to a different level. He's He's the 848 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 1: kind of guy I think that could end up doing 849 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 1: that well. Big thanks to everybody for being with me tonight. 850 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys enjoyed the Harris two fifty mock draft 851 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 1: we did early on. If that eighth player draft comes 852 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,240 Speaker 1: out like that, oh my gosh, we got some players 853 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: out of that. I've sat along. We need two or 854 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: three starters out of this draft, and I think most 855 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: of those picks have done all of them. We're all 856 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: on the defensive side except for one. I think there's 857 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: one offensive pick. We need two or three starters. I 858 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: guarantee out of that list, two or three starters will 859 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: come out of that eventually from that group, so that 860 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: is much needed. So hopefully you guys enjoyed that. I'll 861 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: probably go through and reconfigure the two fifty at some 862 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: point and maybe get it a little bit closer. But 863 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: that was a fun exercise. Big thanks to Drew for 864 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: stopping by in the lab. Go check out all our podcast. 865 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,839 Speaker 1: Vander mirror's View, Deep Slant, and hours in the Lab. 866 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: That was some good stuff this week from a man 867 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: adip for keep me on the air. To you guys 868 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: for listening. We will see you tomorrow. As always, go Texans. 869 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: This is Texans Radio on Sports Radio six ten. Two 870 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,919 Speaker 1: is better than one. How many times have you heard 871 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: that one more than once? I bet, because it just 872 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: adds up. For example, there are two, not one, great 873 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: reasons to fill up with Chevron with Akron number one 874 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: unbeatable cleaning power, a number two or maybe this should 875 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 1: be number one unbeatable mileage. Plus Chevron quits Tecron in 876 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 1: every grade, every gallont of their gasoline. 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