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Speaker 2: It's our two and this Thursday, Dan and the Dan

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Speaker 2: Nuts Dan Patrick Show will take you to Pinehurst number

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Speaker 2: two opening round of the US Open. Rich Lerner Golf

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Speaker 2: Channel host will join us. Ice Cube will join us

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Speaker 2: next hour and we'll talk to the four time NBA champ,

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Speaker 2: Andre Igudala. He'll join us coming up here shortly. Boston

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Speaker 2: Celtics now on the verge of their eighteenth championship. They

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Speaker 2: survive at twenty two to two run. That was in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. It got interesting. Luca had a couple

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Speaker 2: of fouls fouled out late in the game and Boston

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Speaker 2: takes the game three one O six ninety nine, so

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Speaker 2: up three games to none. It was Tatum and it

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Speaker 2: was Brown. Thirty one points for Tatum, thirty for Jalen Brown,

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Speaker 2: and Kyrie did his best. He had thirty five in

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Speaker 2: the loss. But he has now lost thirteen consecutive games

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Speaker 2: to the Celtics if you include the regular season and

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Speaker 2: the postseason. Stat of the Day brought to you by

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Speaker 2: The Pole Question the results from our one Todd seating

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Speaker 2: is off today. His son is graduating from eighth grade.

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Speaker 2: So Todd's got the duties. I said, duties. Ask your

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Speaker 2: poll question. Yes, Ted, if you're.

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Speaker 3: A Celtics fan that has tickets for Game five at home,

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Speaker 3: I'd want the Celtics too sweep the MAVs fifty six

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Speaker 3: percent lose Game four to set up a possible clinching

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Speaker 3: Game five at home forty four percent.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what are we going to go with our two?

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Speaker 5: We can go with.

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Speaker 6: How about this?

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Speaker 3: Can we just say it's Scotty Scheffler or the field

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Speaker 3: before every golf event?

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Speaker 6: Now, yes, that's fair. No, that was just a Tiger

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Speaker 6: thing in his prime.

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Speaker 2: I would say yes, And I'm going to ask rich

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Speaker 2: Lerner that he's kind of creeping into the Tiger Woods neighborhood,

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Speaker 2: and that is Tiger of the field. But that was

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Speaker 2: years that we did that Tiger of the field, and

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Speaker 2: most of the time we took Tiger versus the field.

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Speaker 2: Scotty Scheffler, and I said, this last hour, he's having

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Speaker 2: an unbelievable year. Tiger had ten consecutive years like this.

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Speaker 2: That'll kind of put it in perspective. Scheffler's playing great

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Speaker 2: and I know people said, well, you don't have to

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Speaker 2: play against the best players. Those some of those players

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Speaker 2: are on the live tour. You can only play against

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Speaker 2: who you're playing, you know, whoever's out there. And a

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Speaker 2: lot of times you're playing against the golf course. You're

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Speaker 2: playing against the golf course at Pinehurst number two, you're

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Speaker 2: playing against the golf course. When you go to the Masters,

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Speaker 2: you're playing against the golf course. When you go to

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Speaker 2: the British Open. If brooks Kepka is there, John Rahm

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Speaker 2: isn't there. That's not Scotti Scheffler's fault. Brooks Kepka. Kepka,

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Speaker 2: by the way, is top of the leaderboard, at least

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Speaker 2: he has been after eight holes. Tiger's playing okay. I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of people wagering on Tiger to make

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Speaker 2: the cut. What else do we have there, Todd?

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Speaker 3: Another possibility would be how much Panthers oilers? Stanley Cup

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Speaker 3: Final Game three do you plan to watch tonight?

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Speaker 6: All of it? Coolest game on Earth, baby, take a

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Speaker 6: peek here and there. No thank you. I'll wait for

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Speaker 6: NBA Finals Game four tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: A little snarky there, a little bit, a little bit.

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Speaker 6: I'll be watching the hockey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my Panthers at the oilers here, thank you. We'll

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Speaker 2: recap Tom Brady night in Foxboro, Patriot Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know this thing was happening. All of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, I'm like, Oh, they're gonna have a Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame ceremony for Tom Brady.

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Speaker 4: I go, all right.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know he got into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: And then it was like, oh, it's the Patriots Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer, sixty thousand, last night for Tom Brady, Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame night. All right, once again Celtics. They had

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Speaker 2: all different weapons here and they are the better team

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Speaker 2: dominating and it's shown it so far. It's been a

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Speaker 2: historical run. If they win on Friday Night, that'll be

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Speaker 2: an eighty and twenty record for the regular season in

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Speaker 2: the postseason.

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Speaker 4: This guy knows all about titles.

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Speaker 2: Andre Gudala won four titles with the Warriors MVP in

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Speaker 2: the finals in twenty fifteen. His podcast Point Forward with

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Speaker 2: Evan Turner, and they delve into the latest sports, business

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Speaker 2: and culture. Point Forward part of SB Nation and Vox

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Speaker 2: Media podcast Network. Andre, good to have you on here.

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Speaker 2: How would you recap last night?

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Speaker 5: Last night? Was I keep saying that every halftime, you

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Speaker 5: see the game close with Dallas's best shot, and you'll

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Speaker 5: see Dallas was only a one, having a great first

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Speaker 5: as well, where Dallas would score, Boston will come right

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Speaker 5: back and get a layup, which is mind boggling. In

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Speaker 5: the finals, and I think you saw Boston just, you know,

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Speaker 5: like you said, being a better team, Boston sticking to

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Speaker 5: the strengths. When Luca goes out, Boston takes advantage of

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Speaker 5: it and they build a momentum. I love Kyrie vast

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Speaker 5: game and it's interesting when I see sort of the

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Speaker 5: social commentary behind one player and why a team lost.

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Speaker 5: I just think Boston is the better team. They always

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Speaker 5: take advantage of certain situations. They always have these huge runs,

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Speaker 5: comes out every game with that first punch, Dallas always responds,

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Speaker 5: or excuse me, Boston always responds, and they're either at

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Speaker 5: just take it over in the third quarter and then

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Speaker 4: I know that the Mavericks are here because of Luca.

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Speaker 2: But I think they're in a hole because of Luca

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Speaker 2: as well, because last night's in excusable, Like you pick

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Speaker 2: up those found you can't foul out you and I

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Speaker 2: don't Those aren't even good defensive plays that he's trying

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Speaker 2: to pull off. It's lazy defense, trying to get a

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Speaker 2: charge there and then.

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Speaker 4: You foul out.

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Speaker 2: But how do you work I don't know how you

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Speaker 2: because if I'm a referee and they're a human, you

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Speaker 2: know this where they got to be going.

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Speaker 4: You got to be kidding me.

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Speaker 2: This guy complains all the time. What would you say

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Speaker 2: to him if you're a teammate.

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Speaker 5: Well, I've only seen defensive players be able to work

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Speaker 5: the refs in the manner to their benefit because they

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Speaker 5: want to be more physical. You know, it's always offensive

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Speaker 5: think we've all would agree on that, and that's not

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Speaker 5: a knock. It's just the way the game has been played.

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Speaker 5: And with Luca being an offensive player, I think they've

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Speaker 5: just going to keep attacking, attack and attack, and they're

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Speaker 5: way Jr. Holliday's playing, Derek White's playing Sam Houser was

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Speaker 5: huge for him last night knocking that open baskets and

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Speaker 5: people don't understand that's all of We're going to attack

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Speaker 5: the weakness on defense to get our best shot. What

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Speaker 5: I would say to Luca is you got to be

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Speaker 5: that a lot. And you got to understand, as one

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Speaker 5: with that. And one thing that comes with that is

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Speaker 5: that you can't have any weaknesses and defensively, we can't

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Speaker 5: have the hole that the perception of you is of

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Speaker 5: and then you know you got your bigs. You got

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Speaker 5: Derek Jones Jr. You got your defensive guys sort of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I can't have him on the perimeter

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just you're putting yourself in a position

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Speaker 2: that's more advantageous for Tatum or Brown and he doesn't

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Speaker 4: To be able to do this. How do you hide

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Speaker 4: somebody who can't play defense.

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Speaker 5: Well, you can't give up blowbys. And I don't think

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Speaker 5: you asked him to be a great defensive player. That's

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Speaker 5: not what you're asking him to do. But you're asking

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Speaker 5: That's what you ask for. Give me five seconds of

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Speaker 5: keeping the ball in front of you will funnel the

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Speaker 5: is to recover on the rotation on the backside. When

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Speaker 5: you do get beat off a drive, and they can't

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Speaker 5: be straight line drives. They got to be angle drives

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Speaker 5: a swing. Swing. Swing Boss has done a great job

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Speaker 5: of Normally you don't get to one or two swings

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Speaker 5: defense and in the finals it should be twenty four.

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Speaker 5: It shouldn't be hard to ask for a complete effort

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Speaker 5: with a complete backside rotation and just communicating with you guys.

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Speaker 2: He'sonder Aa Gudala won four titles with the Warriors, won

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Speaker 4: Did you think you were going to win the finals MVP?

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Speaker 5: Well, this is the world we live in now, where

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Speaker 5: that particular ward is such, it's under such a microscope

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Speaker 5: and for us, I don't think anyone was thinking about it.

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Speaker 7: But when you hear your name, yeah, Bob Myers alerted

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Speaker 7: just in such joy in relation that it wasn't in

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Speaker 5: It wasn't on any I don't know if it was

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Speaker 5: I don't think I put it into context, proper context

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Speaker 5: kept hearing about it. I guess it was when I

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Speaker 5: got the email that I was let in on this

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Speaker 5: tech investment that it all sunk in because this company

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Speaker 5: kept telling me no, they were oversubscribed on their investment round.

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Speaker 5: But when I won finals MVP, there was there was

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Speaker 5: some room made available, So that that's when it's that's

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Speaker 5: when it all kicked in.

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Speaker 4: Do you bust STEP's chops though, when you win the MVP?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 5: Actually never. I don't know if we've ever had a

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Speaker 5: conversation about it. If anything, Steph would say.

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Speaker 4: He didn't want to talk about it.

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Speaker 5: I mean I took a lot of wide open shots,

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, Good luck with the podcast,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. Andre Appreciation. That's Andre Agudala. He

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Speaker 9: Mark is Andre Iguidala the I don't want to maybe

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Speaker 2: I've mentioned a few times that I did play Pinehurst

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Speaker 2: And then you got three more days There rich Lerner

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Speaker 2: as I felt when I played Pinehurst number two, How

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Speaker 12: A nice to be with you, Dan, And I don't

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Speaker 12: And I grew up in Allentown, Pennsylvania at a driving

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Speaker 12: You can play putting ping pong here. You can get

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Speaker 12: So I hit the galap and just to show you

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Speaker 13: So the greens are really diabolical here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the facility I don't want people to misconstrue this.

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Speaker 2: Pinehurst is wonderful. Abandon Dune's Pebble Beach and Pinehurst if

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Speaker 13: You spend it.

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Speaker 12: You know, if you're not playing well at Plainer's number two,

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Speaker 12: You know Aaron Oberholzer, who finished ninth here at the

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Speaker 13: He said on this setup that club champ wouldn't break ninety.

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Speaker 4: Okay. That leads me to who does this course favor.

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Speaker 13: Well kept his two under time for the league.

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Speaker 12: Think about a guy like like Kepka, somebody you know,

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Speaker 13: It favors somebody with a good short game.

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Speaker 12: Uh, somebody with patience who understands that, you know, a

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Speaker 13: Might be any other week.

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Speaker 12: I give you is good More a cow is good

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I mean, look, this is an old school US Open.

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Speaker 13: Par on that fourth hole. So you know, somebody with

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Speaker 12: Of the right institution, and I'm thinking of the usual

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Speaker 2: But are we getting into Tiger's neighborhood of Scheffler versus

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Speaker 13: We're getting close.

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Speaker 12: I will say this, there will be some justifiable comparisons

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Speaker 13: You go look at the world ranking.

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Speaker 12: turns twenty eight next week.

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Speaker 13: A week before his.

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Speaker 12: Twenty eighth birthday, Tiger had won thirty eight times with

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Speaker 12: eight major championships.

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Speaker 13: I might have it off by wonder if you're thirty

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Speaker 13: eight and.

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Speaker 12: Eight somewhere in the neighborhood Scotty Schffler's have eleven and

444
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Speaker 12: wins two majors. There's no comparison to Tiger. But Scheffler's

445
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 12: dominating this current crop, and he just has more at

446
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Speaker 12: his disposal dan than anybody else.

447
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 13: He has control of his irons, He's better mentally.

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Speaker 12: He has a Tiger like short game, so that if

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Speaker 12: he misses the green, he has the ability to get.

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Speaker 13: It up and down.

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Speaker 12: He just he's more committed, he has more clarity, and

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Speaker 12: he has more control the three c's.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking to rich Lerner, Golf Channel anchor joining us

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Speaker 2: from Pinehurst and watching Tiger today.

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Speaker 4: He looked, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I know Tiger is never going to say that he

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Speaker 2: can't win, because I think before he started his round

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Speaker 2: he goes, you know, I got it. He always has

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Speaker 2: a chance in his mind because that he's Tiger. But realistically,

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Speaker 2: what are we looking at with Tiger from here on out?

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Speaker 13: Would be a victory if he made the cut. I know,

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Speaker 13: to your.

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Speaker 12: Point, he still thinks he can win. I don't think

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Speaker 12: he has enough reps. This is his fourth round of

465
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Speaker 12: the fourth tournament of the year. He withdrew from Riviera.

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Speaker 12: He made the cut at the Masters, didn't play great,

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Speaker 12: and he missed the cut at Valhall.

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Speaker 13: At the PGA Championship.

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Speaker 12: This is his first US Open since twenty twenty. He

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Speaker 12: just doesn't play enough. I don't think you can pop

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Speaker 12: up giving up twenty plus years to these best players

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Speaker 12: in this current generation and expect to compete. I will

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Speaker 12: say this, with the all time greats in any sport,

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Speaker 12: you always think, do they have one more in them?

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Speaker 13: I wonder though, if Tigers won more.

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Speaker 12: Was the twenty nineteen Masters, when he was forty three.

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Speaker 12: When he won that Masters, he was playing very good golf.

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Speaker 12: He had won the Tour Championship, and remember the crowds

479
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Speaker 12: coming in behind him a the body piper. He won

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Speaker 12: the Tour Championship late the previous year in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 12: He had some good finishes in the run up to

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Speaker 12: that Masters, and he was forty three. This is a

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Speaker 12: forty eight year old guy who drags his legs around

484
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Speaker 12: like you know Earl Campbell, the great running back for

485
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Speaker 12: Texas Longhorns, Houston Oilers. After ten thousand carracks, you know

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Speaker 12: the Tiger of two thousand. That's just a long time

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Speaker 12: and a lot of surgeries ago. But it's still a

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Speaker 12: thrill to watch him. He's still I think the best

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Speaker 12: to have ever done it, or we would say this.

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Speaker 12: For a period of ten years, nobody played the game

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Speaker 12: better ever.

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Speaker 13: In the history of the sport. There's case to be

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Speaker 13: made that Nicholas is the greatest champion.

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Speaker 12: Nicholas is not a case Nicholas is the greatest major

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Speaker 12: champion of all time. The numbers tell us that eighteen

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Speaker 12: to fifteen. Tiger has fifteen. And Tiger himself always said

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Speaker 12: in time he was a kid, the ones that matter

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Speaker 12: are the major championships. He had that number on his

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Speaker 12: bedroom walls a boy, eighteen and what does.

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Speaker 13: That tell you?

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Speaker 12: How you take care of your mind, body and spirit

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Speaker 12: over the long haul matters, and Nicholas, fair to say,

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Speaker 12: did a better job of that. But you know, in

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Speaker 12: terms of dominance and win percentage, which is another way

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Speaker 12: to measure greatness in any sport, the gap between number

506
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 12: one in the world and everybody else was never wider

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Speaker 12: than it was when Tiger was in his prime in

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Speaker 12: his heyday. That fifteen shot win at the US Open

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Speaker 12: in two thousand, I think is the greatest performance in

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Speaker 12: the history of the game. Tiger was standing on the

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Speaker 12: shores of the Monterey Peninsula and everybody else was in

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Speaker 12: a rowbo somewhere near Australia.

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Speaker 13: It was Dan, it was not close.

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Speaker 12: He won tournaments by eight, by eleven, by fifteen, he

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Speaker 12: won six in a row.

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Speaker 13: He had ten seasons of five and more wins.

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Speaker 12: He made, you know, the ridiculous routine he made clutch

518
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Speaker 12: a habit. You brush your teeth before Betty made fifteen

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Speaker 12: foot step matter.

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Speaker 13: I don't think we will forget.

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Speaker 12: But as you watch Tiger kind of battle and struggle

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Speaker 12: with his body and against father time, it's nice to

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Speaker 12: remember who he was and.

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Speaker 13: What he did.

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Speaker 12: And yeah, he's the most the way I put it in,

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Speaker 12: he was the most reliably mind blowing performer I've ever seen.

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Speaker 13: And I might say in any sport.

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Speaker 2: Who has a bigger shadow over their sport Michael Jordan

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Speaker 2: with the NBA or Tiger with the PGA Tour.

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Speaker 13: It's comparable.

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Speaker 14: You know, the golf has never quite been able to

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Speaker 14: capture the energy, the excitement, and I don't know how

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Speaker 14: you could that Tiger generated in terms of ratings, you know, uh,

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Speaker 14: bringing people from uh, you know, beyond golf to to

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Speaker 14: to the television set.

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Speaker 13: And I haven't done a deep diving in the numbers.

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Speaker 13: I suspect the NBA.

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Speaker 12: Has done comparable or greater numbers even uh than they

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Speaker 12: did when Jordan was flying to I can't be sure.

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Speaker 12: I mean, we've had Steph Curry and Lebron James would

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Speaker 12: be you know, guys who were not quite at Jordan's

542
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Speaker 12: you know level. Lebron close. I'm a huge step fan.

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Speaker 12: I think he's underrated historically.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 12: But but yeah, if they're if they're in Michael's zip code,

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Speaker 12: is that fair to say Dan? Would you say Lebron

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Speaker 12: and step would at least be in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 13: They're not.

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Speaker 12: They're not you know, at the top of the hill

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Speaker 12: where Jordan's living, but they're in that neighborhood. There's nobody

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Speaker 12: in Tiger's neighborhood in golf since he's played, you know,

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Speaker 12: Michelson Nicholson was a star. I don't honestly think we've

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Speaker 12: had that star. So Jordan was going to be the

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Speaker 12: star and it sort of petered out. Maybe he has

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Speaker 12: something left, but I don't know. He's thirty now. It

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Speaker 12: gets away quickly, and that's really it. You know, Rory

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Speaker 12: had a chance. Ten years ago. Nicholas said he thought

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Speaker 12: he might win fifteen majors. He had won two in

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Speaker 12: a row and fourteen he hasn't won one since. And

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Speaker 12: again we're talking about levels of greatness.

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Speaker 13: Dan, you know Rory.

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Speaker 12: While we're on that subject, Rory is undeniably a great player.

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Speaker 12: He sails into the Hall of Fames a twenty four,

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Speaker 12: wins four majors. But at this point we are talking

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Speaker 12: about levels of greatness and Rory hasn't quite gone to

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Speaker 12: that level we thought he might, and he still could.

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Speaker 13: He's only five.

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Speaker 12: But that level would be say the career Grand Slam,

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Speaker 12: which we talk about when he goes to the Masters.

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Speaker 12: He needs to win the Masters to become one of

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Speaker 12: six to have won all four of the majors, the

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Speaker 12: four different majors, and you know, it's Tiger, and it's Hogan,

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Speaker 12: and it's Satagine Player and Nicholas.

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Speaker 13: That would take him to a sort of a.

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Speaker 12: Rushmore esque level. But Rory, you know, again, he's great, but.

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Speaker 13: Is he a legend? Legends rattled cages on Sundays.

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Speaker 12: Rory, at least when he's had the chance in the

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Speaker 12: last five years, has not rattled cages.

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Speaker 13: He had a chance at the US opened.

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Speaker 12: Last year on Sundays and against Wyndham Clark a guy

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Speaker 12: with really no major championship track record, and he couldn't

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Speaker 12: rattle his cage. British Open two years ago at Saint

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Speaker 12: Andrews with Cam Smith on a gettable golf course. Smith

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Speaker 12: went out and shot sixty four and Rory could only

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Speaker 12: muster a seventy. Didn't rattle cages. You're gonna be a

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Speaker 12: real legend of the game. You have to do something

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Speaker 12: heroic on Sundays at the majors. Maybe he'll do it again,

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Speaker 12: but it's been a long time, so the answer is no, nobody,

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Speaker 12: we're not. I think Tiger's shadow has been bigger than Jordan's.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, great appearance, have fun there

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Speaker 2: and thanks for joining us the way.

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Speaker 13: Last thing, Dan, I just want to share this with you.

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Speaker 12: You'll appreciate this coming of ages you did in the

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Speaker 12: seventies as I did. I went to golf camp here

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Speaker 12: at Pinehurst in nineteen seventy four when I was just

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Speaker 12: being introduced to the game. That was the era when

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Speaker 12: specialized sports camps were coming, you know, to the four

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Speaker 12: and specialized camps in general. The following year, my parents

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Speaker 12: sent me to a reading camp, much to the shagrin

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Speaker 12: up my baseball coach who felt strongly that hitting ass

601
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Speaker 12: balls was way more important than speed reading Dostoyevsky, and

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Speaker 12: I agreed with him. I was livid with my parents

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Speaker 12: that they sent me the reading camp. It's embarrassing. Can

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Speaker 12: you imagine that?

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Speaker 13: Read basketball camp? Yeah, baseball camp, right, reading camp?

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Speaker 5: How was that?

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Speaker 4: Uh? Well you became a wordsmith though.

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Speaker 5: Rich Thank you m great to talk to.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Bud. That's rich Lerner Golf Channel.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just thought of that. When you think of the shadow,

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Speaker 2: we keep waiting for the next Jordan. Well, we're waiting

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Speaker 2: for the next Tiger. We're not going to find either.

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Speaker 2: You're going to find a hybrid. You're going to find

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Speaker 2: somebody who was similar in some ways. Maybe somebody wins

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Speaker 2: the same number of titles, maybe somebody wins the same

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Speaker 2: number of majors, but you don't capture what they did

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Speaker 2: when they did it. There was something about Tiger. Every

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Speaker 2: five footer went in everyone. You never ever doubted it.

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Speaker 2: The style, the nickname red on Sunday. Same thing with Jordan.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get there and I'm gonna win, and he

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Speaker 2: did every time. Tiger fifteen majors and had a ten

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Speaker 2: year run as Rich said, that's the greatest in golf history.

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Speaker 2: And when he won the US Open, when he won

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Speaker 2: at Pebble Beach and he won by fifteen shots, I mean.

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Speaker 4: That it didn't happen. It sounds like you're making it up.

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Speaker 2: It's like he was playing in his own tournament and

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Speaker 2: then you were playing another course.

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Speaker 4: It was just, you know, we won't. It's like we're.

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Speaker 2: Looking for the next Jack Nicholas. We didn't find it,

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Speaker 2: like we're always looking. But you're not going to find

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Speaker 2: it because there'll be somebody who is different, unique in

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Speaker 2: their own way, may not be better. But that's why

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Speaker 2: Scotty Scheffler. Is he Tiger, No, he could have Tiger

635
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Speaker 2: like results, but he's not Tiger. Or you could have Lebron,

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Speaker 2: but he's not Michael Jordan, Kobe's as close as we

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Speaker 2: come to Mike. Nobody's close to Tiger, No One, Jordan Speith,

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00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: no Rory, No, Justin Thomas. No.

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Speaker 4: They all have their moments and then it goes.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing how quickly it leaves golfers as opposed to

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Speaker 2: basketball players. Lebron's been at a high level for twenty years,

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00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: high level. Nobody's consistent enough to be where Tiger was.

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Speaker 2: Let me take a break. I got phone calls coming up.

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady's night last night, Big night, going into the

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Speaker 2: Patriots Hall of Fame. I don't know if I had

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Speaker 2: to put him in so soon. You know, you never

647
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Speaker 2: can't tell. Yes, you know, if Jerry Jones was the owner,

648
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: you know they need be like, I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 2: not putting you in yet. I got to put in

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Speaker 2: Troy Brown before you. All right, We'll take a break

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Speaker 2: back after this.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: According to woj JJ, Reddick will interview with the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Hi Bill, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 15: Hey DP, Thanks for yesterday. It was a really hard show,

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Speaker 15: but a really wonderful show. I want to kind of

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Speaker 15: pig back on that a bit and then give a

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Speaker 15: thought on Jerry West as well. Your any reel is

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Speaker 15: done for you guys, to just the position from the

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Speaker 15: IT team doing real time investigation on Joey Chestnutt to

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Speaker 15: then transitioning to a heartfelt, sincere memory of a friend

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Speaker 15: is kind of why we all listen and why we

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Speaker 15: love the DP show so much, and kind of just

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Speaker 15: the emotion and the sort of community that you guys

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Speaker 15: have is awesome. And then just to piggyback on that

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Speaker 15: again with mister West. I was lucky enough to grow

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Speaker 15: up with my grandfather, kind of self made guy, immigrants

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Speaker 15: from Ireland, got his kids to college, and the best

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Speaker 15: compliment anyone ever paid him was he was a gentleman

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Speaker 15: and he was classy. I always kind of meant the

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Speaker 15: world to me to hear that from folks. I think, well,

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Speaker 15: Jerry west accomplishments are off the charts in terms of

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Speaker 15: a player and front office. I think that should be

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Speaker 15: his sort of kind of a shining light. Is that

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Speaker 15: just what a good person, good man, what a gentleman

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Speaker 15: he was?

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Speaker 4: So my thoughts, Yeah, thank you, Bill, thank you for

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Speaker 4: the compliment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's if you're looking at most impactful people in

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Speaker 2: the history of the sport. You know Jerry West, who's

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Speaker 2: at the top. Bill Russell was in there. I'd put

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Speaker 2: Bird and Magic together, I'd put Michael in there, I'd

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Speaker 2: put David Stern. Not I'm sure I'm leaving out people,

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Speaker 2: but you know this, these are the impactful people in

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Speaker 2: the history of the sport. Now, Steph Curry, you could

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Speaker 2: say the way he plays his impact as well, you'd

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Speaker 2: have no argument there. But Jerry's up there Read Arbach

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Speaker 2: as well, like what they did as a coach or

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Speaker 2: a GM. By the way, somebody said that Jerry pulled

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Speaker 2: off the greatest trade of all time Vlade to get Kobe.

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Speaker 2: The greatest trade in NBA history is Read Arbach trading

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Speaker 2: with the Saint Louis Hawks and getting the draft rights

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Speaker 2: to Bill Russell. That's the greatest trade. That guy won

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Speaker 2: eleven titles. That's the greatest trade ever. No other trade

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Speaker 2: comes close Kobe. Wonderful that you sent Vlade to Charlotte

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Speaker 2: and you got the rights to Kobe.

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Speaker 4: Great trade.

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Speaker 2: Also, Read Arbach ended up getting Robert Perrish and the

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Speaker 2: draft rights to Kevin McHale by trading Joe Barry Carroll.

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Speaker 4: That is a great trade. That also sounds made up.

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Speaker 2: Read Arba had two of the greatest, if not the

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Speaker 2: two greatest trades in NBA history. So let's be fair.

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Speaker 2: I love I love Jerry West. Let's be fair. You

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Speaker 2: got Bill Russell, you won eleven titles.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Mark read Arback drafted Lynn Bias in eighty six

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Speaker 9: after they were probably the greatest team ever in eighty six.

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Speaker 9: Imagine if he hadn't died one probably.

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Speaker 2: Reggie lewis right, Reggie Lewis passing away. He drafts Bird

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Speaker 2: the year before that he's eligible. You know that he's

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Speaker 2: coming out, basically stashed him. Everybody was like, wait, what

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Speaker 2: did Red do? Red Arback? Nobody, nobody was better. Jerry

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Speaker 2: was great, and he's in the conversation what Red Arback did.

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Speaker 4: He's another one of those guys. Read Arback online one.

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Speaker 6: I'm not here.

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Speaker 5: I'm not here.

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Speaker 2: That's where you need to caller id back in the sixties,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna, you know somehow fleeceh you here. Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: had a night last night. I had no idea this

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Speaker 2: was going to be what it was. It's sixty thousand

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Speaker 2: fans that show up at Foxboro and it's a Patriot

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame induction, and here is Bill Belichick's former

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Speaker 2: head coach.

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Speaker 8: Tom want to say thanks on behalf of all the players,

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Speaker 8: all the coaches, all the staff, all the people. Are

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Speaker 8: hundreds of people that are here and the thousands of

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Speaker 8: fans that are here, thank you and thank you for

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Speaker 8: all that you've done for us. Thank you for all

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Speaker 8: you've done for me. Thank you for the example and

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Speaker 8: model that you've been for all of us on a

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Speaker 8: daily basis for twenty years.

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Speaker 2: You're unbelievable. Okay, everything's great. They're going to build a statue.

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Speaker 2: They retire as jersey, build a statue. But if I

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Speaker 2: gave you the choice, you can get your jersey retire

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Speaker 2: or you get a statue. I'm guessing if you get

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Speaker 2: a statue, you're getting new Jersey retired.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 2: But let's say you have to pick Marvin, we're going

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Speaker 2: to build a statue of you, or we're.

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Speaker 4: Going to retire your jersey. Oh, statue, Okay, Todd, Yeah, statue.

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Speaker 4: Hu I prefer that, all right, Paul.

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Speaker 6: Statue seems more rare.

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Speaker 4: People can visit it, take pictures with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how about statue or hall of Fame, NFL Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame, yeah, or the statue with the local team. No, No,

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Speaker 2: it's a statue with your your team, or you go

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Speaker 2: into the pro you know, whatever your sport. Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame is, so todd you can be a Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 2: or you get a statue.

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Speaker 6: I will go Hall of Famer because you get a

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Speaker 6: little mini statue in there and you're among.

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Speaker 4: All the greats. You do you get a bus.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's like a little mini statue of you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I'll take the Hall of Fame over that shore marv

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Speaker 6: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Like Nick Foles has his statue, doesn't he have

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Speaker 2: the Philly Special Yeah, Pauli statue or Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 6: That old game.

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Speaker 4: I'm going Hall of Fame too tight though, Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think that I would.

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Speaker 2: I would take Hall of Fame, and then I would

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Speaker 2: commission somebody to build a statue. Like I don't have

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Speaker 2: to wait for the team to do it. I just

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Speaker 2: I just show up late at night and you bring

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Speaker 2: in the statue and you cement it and you know,

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Speaker 2: nobody notices it here. Put it out, you know, in

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Speaker 2: the far reaches of the parking lot.

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Speaker 4: Put it in there.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty final hour coming up. Ice Cube will join us

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Speaker 2: more phone calls as well,