Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me, I'm
Speaker 1: a man. I've heard so many players say, well, I
Speaker 1: want to be happy. You want to be happy for
Speaker 1: day Edith State is that Woo whoo?
Speaker 2: And them and Tye welcome back to the solid Rebo
Speaker 2: boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrandt, joining me
Speaker 2: as always your Notre Dame hater in chief Dan Rubenstein, Sir,
Speaker 2: how are you?
Speaker 1: I honestly didn't think I said anything, and I know that.
Speaker 1: My only regret about what I said about, you know,
Speaker 1: the the nullified November win over Clemson, now that Notre
Speaker 1: Dame got wiped off the field in the conference championship game, Dame,
Speaker 1: I think nover Dame. Brian Pumpkins spice Brian right. The
Speaker 1: only regret I have about what I said was just personally,
Speaker 1: I felt like I was dunking on you a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't care I'm about that. I know you're about
Speaker 1: you were dugging on yourself. That was one of the
Speaker 1: worst arguments you've ever made. Wait, one of the worst
Speaker 1: arguments I've ever made.
Speaker 2: The whole thing about invalidating the earlier win that was
Speaker 2: That was one of the more Asini comments you've ever made.
Speaker 1: You buyd a commemorative issue of whatever magazine celebrating the
Speaker 1: Notre Dame win over Clemson. Now it's just as meaningful. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't say it was just as meaningful.
Speaker 2: It definitely takes This was my whole point. No, you
Speaker 2: said it nullified. It said it nullified it. That's what
Speaker 2: I have it on tape. I listened back, I edited it,
Speaker 2: I cleaned it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so did I. But I mean, we can get
Speaker 1: into this later, because we should introduce what we have
Speaker 1: a new co host, Danny Cannell stopping by a canal.
Speaker 1: Shout out Ship Patterson, shoutout Barnes Simmons, shout out Tom Fornellie.
Speaker 1: My argument was, if you're gonna like, okay, here is
Speaker 1: why Notre Dame is still a playoff team. They beat
Speaker 1: Clemson just like what, but not meaningfully anymore. You can
Speaker 1: talk about North Carolina. I suppose you can talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, starting slow against Syracuse and then pouring it on,
Speaker 1: talk about other teams in the ACC, but I don't
Speaker 1: know about you know, is Clemson that same feather ty?
Speaker 2: Listen, let's get into this. Let's get into this later.
Speaker 2: People don't want to hear us argue at the very
Speaker 2: top of the show.
Speaker 1: You know, if Notre Dame fans are upset about something,
Speaker 1: then a vast majority of people are pretty cool with thes.
Speaker 2: Oh they're fine with it, And I'm Fuinnie to dunk
Speaker 2: on me. I don't care, Mama. H By the way,
Speaker 2: I think I told you.
Speaker 1: This that I regret that too.
Speaker 2: Great lady thought that there may be legit tension between
Speaker 2: you and I because of the Notre Dame conversation. I'm like, Mom,
Speaker 2: We've been doing this since two thousand and eight. We've
Speaker 2: talked about a lot of stuff between then and now.
Speaker 2: I don't think a little conversation about Notre Dame's twenty
Speaker 2: four point loss to Clemson is really going to bring
Speaker 2: the whole ship down.
Speaker 1: But no, Also, Notre Dame fans are used to this
Speaker 1: happening in December January. This is nothing. This is you
Speaker 1: guys are season veterans. Okay, Okay, we'll get into this.
Speaker 1: We'll get into this. We'll get into this. So here
Speaker 1: is the deal. One and all. We are the solid verbol.
Speaker 2: We're going to continue putting out multiple shows per week,
Speaker 2: all throughout Bowl season, all throughout the off season, for
Speaker 2: what it's worth, We're still drawing up what our plans
Speaker 2: look like. This is for the vast majority of you,
Speaker 2: the last show you will hear of hours before Christmas.
Speaker 1: So Merry Christmas if.
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Speaker 2: wherever this podcast finds you. Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: your support this holiday season. Celebrabotgmail dot com as always
Speaker 2: is where you can email in your thoughts, of which
Speaker 2: I know there are many. We also do have our
Speaker 2: Patreon which is going strong out there at verbowlers dot com.
Speaker 2: The Winter Wonders game is starting to ratchet up. We
Speaker 2: had our first interesting prop bet of the Bowl season
Speaker 2: last evening. We're recording this on a Tuesday as app
Speaker 2: State one big over North Texas. But we had that
Speaker 2: little side prop. How many times are the announcers going
Speaker 2: to bring up the famous app State win over Michigan?
Speaker 1: And what was the number?
Speaker 2: Set that line at one and a half, There was
Speaker 2: exactly one mention, one mention in passing and of course
Speaker 2: they're still talking about the big win over Michigan and
Speaker 2: that was it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well I was banking if you were going to
Speaker 1: go on the over one and a half. They're banking
Speaker 1: on a mension and a clip later on, like we mentioned,
Speaker 1: of course two thousand and seven app State over Michigan.
Speaker 1: Who could forget this moment? That's what I was banking on.
Speaker 1: But listen, congrats to everybody what the under, everyone who
Speaker 1: had the under.
Speaker 2: So what we're going to do today is we've got
Speaker 2: a bunch of coaching news, a bunch of news news
Speaker 2: that we're going to get into at the very top,
Speaker 2: and then we're going to go through all the Bowl
Speaker 2: games and talk through some of the Bowl swag as
Speaker 2: we do often on this show, as we do every
Speaker 2: year on this show. We can't put together kind of
Speaker 2: a normal Bowl preview because just the timeline doesn't work out.
Speaker 2: We're going to do our best to rifle through as
Speaker 2: many games as possible and just off the top of
Speaker 2: our heads, give some instant feedback, instant reactions. Some of
Speaker 2: you out there, many of you out there are playing
Speaker 2: our confidence pool at ESPN dot com. I know obviously
Speaker 2: a great number of our Patreon subscribers are playing the
Speaker 2: Winter Wonders games. So I've got point spreads here for
Speaker 2: a bunch of these games, going to talk through as
Speaker 2: we often do ball season, just maybe not in as.
Speaker 1: Much detail as you might be accustomed for yourself. Tie, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know, No, I don't know. I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: I am And we had do we have the swaglists?
Speaker 1: I have the swag list? Yes, I have the swag list.
Speaker 1: So why don't we start with news? You ready nuts
Speaker 1: were roasting on an open fun I can't wait for
Speaker 1: you to see what I got you for Christmas? Didn't
Speaker 1: I already get you? So I got you something for
Speaker 1: your birthday. I'm not going birthday and Christmas. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't do that. But if I did, it would have
Speaker 1: been a key fourth down conversion. Tye, just for you,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for you.
Speaker 2: Auburn, who is gonna be Auburn's coach? They've been turned
Speaker 2: down now by Billy Napier, Bill Clark. Kevin Steele appears
Speaker 2: to be out as well, because some scuttle butt that
Speaker 2: Auburn might be trying to control the staff Brent Vnables
Speaker 2: was rumored as of this morning, and then quickly unrumored
Speaker 2: as it was announced that he is staying push at Clemson.
Speaker 2: The joke that we've got going sidebar between you and
Speaker 2: I is at Auburn has put itself in a situation
Speaker 2: now where they're going to have to vastly overpay for
Speaker 2: somebody's It seems like it's going to that place. That
Speaker 2: may be fine depending on who that name is, but
Speaker 2: they're going to Jimbo Fisher territory, not literal Jimbo Fisher,
Speaker 2: but Jimbo Fisher contract territory pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: Russ Dalson new head coach Auburn University. Yeah, no, it's
Speaker 1: the Texas A and M thing was a lot more
Speaker 1: fluid than this. There were, of course, the rumors are
Speaker 1: not more fluid, a lot smoother sailing in terms of
Speaker 1: finding their head coach. There were rumors that Jimbo was
Speaker 1: unhappy and the text same one was interested, and then
Speaker 1: it just worked out. Text A and M paid him
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of money and he showed up in
Speaker 1: boots and pet horses and everything kind of worked out.
Speaker 1: Hunky Dory a little rough early on, but you know,
Speaker 1: on the precipice of a playoff Berth this year we
Speaker 1: will see less.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, who are what are what are some of
Speaker 2: the names that are still out there? Dan and what
Speaker 2: are some of the names that we would find most
Speaker 2: amusing given circumstances.
Speaker 1: At this point, like all of the names that sort
Speaker 1: of made sense. Bill Clark at UAB in State and
Speaker 1: certainly what he's done with a much smaller program and
Speaker 1: the continued success they've had in Birmingham. Billy Napier and
Speaker 1: what he's done in Louisiana. You know, there was I
Speaker 1: think it's a more of a faction thing that they're
Speaker 1: just they're not all in lockstep behind a strategy and
Speaker 1: a candidate and a type of candidate because you know,
Speaker 1: is it an internal guy and Kevin Steele, is it,
Speaker 1: you know, a bigger school guy like Brent Venables at
Speaker 1: d C or Mario Christobal head coach at Oregon. Like
Speaker 1: it just seems they're sort of all over the place
Speaker 1: and exactly what they're looking for, which is fine, but
Speaker 1: I don't know, it changes by the day that their
Speaker 1: steam around. One guy like yesterday I think was Billy Napier,
Speaker 1: This morning was Brent Venables, who apparently spoke to them.
Speaker 1: On Monday, there was Tony Elliott conversation. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: throughout what the Sark is out, Apparently Sark is hanging
Speaker 1: around Tuscaloosa. I just I don't know. I think I
Speaker 1: think we're at the point where it's just going to
Speaker 1: be like, yep, Jeff Brahm is the new opern head coach.
Speaker 2: Ah Man, all right, well we'll keep you up the
Speaker 2: speed on that one. Some of the other coaching scuttle
Speaker 2: But out there Arizona supposedly down to Jedfish, the quarterback
Speaker 2: coach for the Patriots. Yeah, was that Michigan UCLA, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's been around. And Brett Brennan from San Jose State
Speaker 2: ken Nia Matalolo is apparently out of the running. He
Speaker 2: was mentioned as a possibility there.
Speaker 1: I think he spoke to them, but it appeared that
Speaker 1: there were reports that they were down to Fish and Brennan. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We didn't mention Fish in some of the I guess
Speaker 2: earlier reporting that we had done or had reported on
Speaker 2: when this announcement first came down, But Brett Brennan was
Speaker 2: a name that immediately surfaced given what he's done at
Speaker 2: San Jose State.
Speaker 1: See which direction they go.
Speaker 2: In coordinator news LSU has fired both Bo Polini and
Speaker 2: Scott Linehan defense and.
Speaker 1: Offense Passing game coordinator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, passing game coordinator sure, And on the flip side
Speaker 2: of that, I guess Texas Tech making a pretty big
Speaker 2: move hiring Sonny Comby away from TCU to be their
Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator. You may recall at the start of
Speaker 2: the year Gary Patterson brought Sonny Comby back, now Senny
Speaker 2: Comby going down to Lubbick.
Speaker 1: Also Steve Nsbinger retiring the offensive coordinator who helped with
Speaker 1: Joe Brady to develop that record breaking offense and certainly
Speaker 1: could not replicate it this year with a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of injuries and opt outs and a different situation in
Speaker 1: Baton Rouge. But hopefully Texas Tech can get their offense
Speaker 1: to a healthier place than where it was this year
Speaker 1: with David Yost. And you know, they've had quarterback injuries.
Speaker 1: There are reasons for things rolling out the way that
Speaker 1: they did. But hopefully, yeah, hopefully there's some more offense
Speaker 1: down there in Lubbock. Just regular news news, Tie, Iowa,
Speaker 1: South Carolina, Tennessee all with COVID issues and pulling out
Speaker 1: of bowl games. Army is replacing Tennessee in the Liberty Bowl.
Speaker 1: South Carolina no longer playing in your favorite bowl, the
Speaker 1: Gasparilla Bowl. Yeah, and I guess it's TBD at the
Speaker 1: time of our recording, Iowa's Bowl plans in the Music
Speaker 1: City Bowl against Miszoo. A lot of black and yellow
Speaker 1: in that game. Tie. I know it's cold, but black
Speaker 1: and yellow. Dan Mullen was hit with the show cause,
Speaker 1: which is a very confusing phraseology considering he has a job,
Speaker 1: and show causes generally associated with coaches who aren't working,
Speaker 1: and they shouldn't work unless they can prove that it
Speaker 1: wasn't their fault. There NCAA issues. But yeah, he has
Speaker 1: prohibited Dan Mullen, head coach Florida off campus recruiting during
Speaker 1: the fall twenty twenty evaluation period and a four day
Speaker 1: off campus recruiting band during the fall twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: contact period. It's regarding him talking to a recruit on
Speaker 1: a high school campus, and I guess there was proof
Speaker 1: that they had scheduled the talk, so it wasn't just
Speaker 1: you know, the bump in rule that sometimes coaches can
Speaker 1: get away with breaking rules and claiming a bunch of
Speaker 1: transfer portal activity here, Ty, I don't know if any
Speaker 1: of these names stood out to you. If you want
Speaker 1: to go through them, go for it, Okay, Well, Jarrick Garontano,
Speaker 1: of course at Tennessee that was pretty recent. He is
Speaker 1: entering the portal. Jacob Sermon, who was a blue chip
Speaker 1: quarterback at Washington. He of course lost out the starting
Speaker 1: gig to Dylan Morris. He's moving on to Central Michigan,
Speaker 1: which I think is a pretty impressive move, right. Jim
Speaker 1: Mcowain has done pretty well with quarterbacks. Patrick O'Brien at
Speaker 1: Colorado State, Cassim Hill from Maryland to Tennessee, now to
Speaker 1: Rhode Island. Garrett Schrader, who was promising as a freshman,
Speaker 1: he goes to Western New York to the Carrier Dome Syracuse.
Speaker 1: Tanner Mordecai at Oklahoma, Quincy Patterson Virginia Tech to North
Speaker 1: Dakota State. Wow, former blue chip quarterback. Nice, nice little get.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess North Dakota State just keeps on
Speaker 1: winning games, and you know, Trey Lance probably get drafted
Speaker 1: Ye Bison. Anthony Russo Temple Grand Gunnell, former high regarded
Speaker 1: quarterback and started Arizona moves on with Kevin someone getting fired, Uh,
Speaker 1: your boy King kne Rocky Lombardi, a bunch of guys.
Speaker 1: Penn State has John Lovett, the Baylor running back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they were hit pretty hard with injuries and of
Speaker 1: course Journey Brown's health situation, so they're building that room.
Speaker 1: Back up a couple of big NFL declarations. Nick Bolton,
Speaker 1: who you love going into the season and backed it
Speaker 1: all up from a zoo at linebacker, and Miami's bookends
Speaker 1: of Quincy Roche and Jalen Phillips have decided to opt
Speaker 1: out of the cheese At Bowl, opting out of glory
Speaker 1: tie opting out of cheese At Bowl glory to prepare
Speaker 1: for the NFL Draft. I think those are all like
Speaker 1: the personnel situations that jumped out both coaches and player wise.
Speaker 1: But we have a whole list of bowl games that
Speaker 1: we mentioned. Do we mention the Arizona Bowl thing in
Speaker 1: San Jose State? Oh, that's right, that's the other situation.
Speaker 2: That's the other situation. So right now there remains a
Speaker 2: little bit of uncertainty whether San Jose State, the real
Speaker 2: Spartans as we've refer to them, or the show are
Speaker 2: even going to be able to board a plane to
Speaker 2: get to the Arizona Bowl because it may violate county
Speaker 2: quarantine guidelines. That is, according to the Santa Clara County
Speaker 2: Executive Officer, doctor Jeff Smith. So, look, these are weird times.
Speaker 2: We got teams opting out, we got players opting out.
Speaker 2: San Jose State has been a great story for like
Speaker 2: eighty five different reasons. I'm sure they've had eighty five
Speaker 2: different challenges, if not more, that they've had to deal
Speaker 2: with in this age of COVID. This just happens to
Speaker 2: be another one. It would be a shame if they
Speaker 2: weren't able to play in this Bowl game. However, if
Speaker 2: it violates rules of violates the rules. So I don't
Speaker 2: really have much else to add there. It's just something
Speaker 2: to keep your eye on. I know a lot of
Speaker 2: folks are out there trying to figure out, like.
Speaker 1: Who do we pick, who do we like? What do
Speaker 1: we do about the Arizona BWL. I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll try to go through it as best we can
Speaker 2: and talk about gifts. But that's at least the state
Speaker 2: of play right now in Santa Clara County.
Speaker 1: Do you hear the music? I do? Do you know what?
Speaker 1: That's the theme too? I'd be so impressed. And you
Speaker 1: know what, there's like a fourteen and a half percent chance,
Speaker 1: you know, come on time, No, nothing, I.
Speaker 2: Can't hear it that well? Who framed Roger Rabbit? No,
Speaker 2: that's the theme to ourgo. Oh if there's a little
Speaker 2: bit of a officer, a little bit off, uh, threatening
Speaker 2: to block San Jose State from boarding a plane, I
Speaker 2: got to rewatch argo.
Speaker 1: To me, it's an all time modern I guess not
Speaker 1: all time modern, but it's a great one of the
Speaker 1: modern era. I enjoyed Ourgo thoroughly. Should we go with bulls?
Speaker 1: Should we go with bulls?
Speaker 2: Way?
Speaker 1: Let's play this.
Speaker 2: Let's make it a December to remember Dan here on
Speaker 2: the podcast. We've got a full bowl list. Don't know
Speaker 2: if we're going to go in order. I'm making this
Speaker 2: way more dramatic than.
Speaker 1: It needs to be. Oh, I like it. Keep going.
Speaker 2: Let me fade this out here. We've got a pretty
Speaker 2: good list. This is not going to go in chronological order.
Speaker 2: This is really just the order in which you threw
Speaker 2: them up here on the document.
Speaker 1: And that's fine. Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 2: Let's start with the good Year Cotton Bowl because I
Speaker 2: think this is one of the more intriguing matchups. It's
Speaker 2: certainly a top ten matchup. We've got a couple of
Speaker 2: those that will discuss number six Oklahoma number seven Florida.
Speaker 2: Florida favored by three play this one in December the thirtieth.
Speaker 2: I don't have a readout here on the gifts. They
Speaker 2: would not disclose the gifts.
Speaker 1: For reporting from the Sports Business Journal.
Speaker 2: So good matchup striking is one that's going to mean
Speaker 2: more for Oklahoma than Florida. You know my deal when
Speaker 2: it comes to Bowls season? Which team is in it
Speaker 2: to win it more? Which team does this game mean more?
Speaker 1: Too?
Speaker 2: I think the answer here is Oklahoma because Florida had
Speaker 2: a crack at Alabama. They lost a good game. They lost.
Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts is opting out. He's already opted out, I guess,
Speaker 2: which shouldn't come as a huge surprise.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: The over under seventy two and a half. So I
Speaker 2: think we're gonna see a lot of points one way
Speaker 2: or the other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, I would say more than So
Speaker 1: then which team wants to be there more? Which team
Speaker 1: lost their best player? Well? Right, it's tough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm tempted to go Oklahoma here, and not because
Speaker 2: I think they're better than Florida on a neutral field
Speaker 2: during the regular season, But given circumstance, is I think
Speaker 2: Oklahoma has more to play for, a younger team coming
Speaker 2: together at a good time.
Speaker 1: Florida's good. But I just don't see why they're motivated
Speaker 1: to play in this one. I don't know, you still
Speaker 1: get to play on national TV against a top ten team.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get why. In twenty twenty, you know,
Speaker 1: teams are less motivated and you know, opting out for
Speaker 1: NFL prep or opting out just to spend time with
Speaker 1: their family around New Year's and the holidays, whatever. But
Speaker 1: I think there's motivation here for Florida. They I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think they went into the Alabama game thinking
Speaker 1: that they were going to get into the playoff. You
Speaker 1: know that they were gonna beat Alabama. This is the
Speaker 1: reality that they live in. But you get to play Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: you get to play in what Jerry world? That's where
Speaker 1: this game is. Yep, Yep. I think there's excitement around there.
Speaker 1: It's a great matchup and it's Bob Stoopsy right, Florida Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: Florida Oklahoma. Sure, Yeah, it's a great matchup. It really is,
Speaker 1: and one of the few here that I'm genuinely excited
Speaker 1: to see.
Speaker 2: Beau. I think it's gonna be a lot of points.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a ton of fun. Don't
Speaker 2: expect a lot of defense. That's why the over under
Speaker 2: is seventy three seventy two and a half.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, so good matchup.
Speaker 2: I think I'm tempted to go Oklahoma plus the points
Speaker 2: and probably Oklahoma outright in my confidence pool.
Speaker 1: Again, this is my thing.
Speaker 2: It may not make sense to anybody else, but my
Speaker 2: thing is all about motivation and bowl season, and I
Speaker 2: think that's only going to be magnified this year, where
Speaker 2: we've got teams in various states of caring because of COVID.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm gonna lean into it even harder this year.
Speaker 2: So give me Oklahoma, all right.
Speaker 1: And if you're going to this game, you can eat
Speaker 1: really well because DFW has good food options. Go to
Speaker 1: the Chick fil A Peach Bowl.
Speaker 2: Speaking of eating well, mm hm. I drove by a
Speaker 2: Chick fil A earlier today. I had to run the
Speaker 2: pop up to the vet.
Speaker 1: Did you get anything? I thought about it, but there
Speaker 1: was a come. See. Here's the thing. Here is the
Speaker 1: problem about the Chick fil A that I frequent uh huh.
Speaker 2: The problem is that they do not have an optimal
Speaker 2: drive through setup, and if you go at any point
Speaker 2: around lunch time, you are really risking an accident.
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I've sat outside.
Speaker 2: I've seen near misses there, okay, and especially now where
Speaker 2: people aren't going inside everyone's using the drive backing up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to put myself or my pup,
Speaker 2: who was traumatized by a visit to the vet, into
Speaker 2: harm's way by doing that.
Speaker 1: So I declined. So this is just a story to
Speaker 1: tell me you drove by a Chick fil A today? No,
Speaker 1: I took the dog to the vet, okay, and on
Speaker 1: the way back considered stopping a Chick fil A for lunch,
Speaker 1: but I didn't pull the trigger. So tell the people
Speaker 1: what you had for lunch in its place. I just
Speaker 1: had a salad here at home. It was boring. It
Speaker 1: wasn't as good I know. Okay, Cincinnati, Georgia, it sort
Speaker 1: of reeks of what U c F Auburn a little bit. Well,
Speaker 1: you have this yeah five team who has a great season.
Speaker 1: I don't think people were fully expecting them to make
Speaker 1: the playoff, even though they went undefeated, but they have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to prove that they belong with the biggest
Speaker 1: of boys. Even though Georgia lost a couple games this year,
Speaker 1: but certainly with JT. Daniels, looks much improved offensively. And
Speaker 1: the game is what's in Atlanta, right, the peach bawl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for whatever is that worked for or against George,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, for whatever it's worth, it's basically
Speaker 2: a home game for Georgia. Both teams are going to
Speaker 2: be motivated here. In my view, Like you said, George
Speaker 2: has played really well down the stretch, especially since JT.
Speaker 2: Daniels came in and kind of infused that offense with
Speaker 2: some energy. Meanwhile, since like this is their de facto
Speaker 2: national championship game, sure this is their de facto championship game.
Speaker 2: The line is seven in favor of Georgia over under
Speaker 2: about fifty points, so Vegas expecting a relatively low scoring game.
Speaker 2: I do think George is a better team. I think
Speaker 2: they'll win, but seven's a lot here to me, seventh
Speaker 2: a lot. The only reason that I am hedging and
Speaker 2: not jumping in full speed on not just Cincinnati as
Speaker 2: a dog, but pretty much every dog given circumstances, is
Speaker 2: because the Georgia defense is really good and I don't
Speaker 2: think Cincinnati's seen anything close to this Georgia defense. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure that their offense is going to be as
Speaker 2: productive going up against the Dogs.
Speaker 1: I don't expect it. Well, what did Georgia's defense finish
Speaker 1: in the d analytics? Not really the analytics, but this
Speaker 1: is twenty fourth in points per drivel out minus garbage time,
Speaker 1: right there with Oregon. So what does that mean for you? Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't have a lean yet. I haven't really jumped
Speaker 1: into the specifics in this game, and I think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be opt outs between now in the time we
Speaker 1: preview this game. But no, I'm excited to see how
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's defense is able to perhaps confuse and hound some
Speaker 1: really talented elements of the Georgia offense and vice versa.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm this one. I have circled as one
Speaker 1: of the more watchable games. And we've got a gift
Speaker 1: suite we do have.
Speaker 2: We have a report here on their official gifts for
Speaker 2: the participants.
Speaker 1: Gift suite three hundred and ninety dollars MasterCard, gift card, Okay,
Speaker 1: fossil watch and a commemorative football Now without fully knowing
Speaker 1: what's available in the gift suite and how many points
Speaker 1: each option is worth, I can tell you it's not creative,
Speaker 1: but you know, three hundred dollars, three hundred ninety dollars
Speaker 1: a MasterCard cash whatever, it's pretty good. Yeah, that's not bad.
Speaker 1: It's versatile, right, it's versatile. There's a limit of you know,
Speaker 1: five six hundred bucks I believe in terms of what
Speaker 1: can be given to each player, and they filled it
Speaker 1: out with the gift card. Fine, it feels normal.
Speaker 2: This next game here is one that pretty consistently has
Speaker 2: a really good gift situation.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And that's the PlayStation Fiesta Bowl this year. Of course
Speaker 2: they're gonna walk away with PlayStation fives, which you can't
Speaker 2: find anywhere right now. Pretty good, and you get it
Speaker 2: just for playing in the game. You also get a
Speaker 2: Lululemon Cruiser backpack, which had just looked up. I'm sure
Speaker 2: it's price.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's like one hundred and.
Speaker 2: No eighty nine, but one hundred bucks, yeah, whatever, it's
Speaker 2: a lot. It looks like, oh, it says, oh snap,
Speaker 2: we're all out, so maybe they gave them all the
Speaker 2: way to the bowl game.
Speaker 1: Looks like a nice backpack. I'm looking like a nice backpack.
Speaker 1: Huge proponent of a good backpack. Love a good backpack.
Speaker 1: I used to do the messenger bag thing and it
Speaker 1: made no sense. One shoulder was sore. I was all off.
Speaker 1: Can wear a backpack even out that weight distribution.
Speaker 2: We've got number twenty five Oregon, number ten, Iowa State,
Speaker 2: Iowa State. It's a four point favorite. I love Iowa
Speaker 2: State here. I love the Clones. And this is not
Speaker 2: some way to like seize on you after your comments. Again,
Speaker 2: whatever you want about Oregon will be cool, No, no
Speaker 2: thank you. I just organ's here in a technicality. You
Speaker 2: know that here in a technicality. They played well enough
Speaker 2: to win against USC. It's still a good win. But
Speaker 2: you're pretty early on the bandwagon of saying that Oregon's
Speaker 2: not particularly good and this is a hell of a
Speaker 2: way to close out the season for Iowa State to
Speaker 2: win the Fiesta Bowl. So I just I think there's
Speaker 2: so much on the line for Matt Campbell here. It
Speaker 2: definitely means more to Iowa State than maybe almost anybody
Speaker 2: else in college football.
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell always gets his troops fired up. So give
Speaker 1: me the Clones. They did notre Dame not play Iowa
Speaker 1: State last year in a bowl game they did, just
Speaker 1: circling each other for the solid verb bal both taking
Speaker 1: on Iowa State within almost a calendar year ish. Correct,
Speaker 1: Pretty good? Yeah, Well, we have a duo of quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in Arizona and Brock Party and Tyler Shuck. If Tyler
Speaker 1: Shuck starts this game, I imagine you saw Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: got some snaps against USC. Oregon. Iowa State no history
Speaker 1: of playing football. I looked it up. I don't believe
Speaker 1: they've ever played, at least not anywhere, you know, in
Speaker 1: the last like eighty years or something like that. They
Speaker 1: were going to play basketball this year, But in terms
Speaker 1: of like major athletics, as far as I could tell
Speaker 1: in very brief research, Oregon and Iowa State have not
Speaker 1: cross paths. Yeah, one of the more intriguing games to
Speaker 1: see what you know Breise Hall and that Iowa State
Speaker 1: offense can do against an improved Oregon defense that really
Speaker 1: did a great job against USC. But on the other
Speaker 1: on the flip side of things, Tyler Shuck throwing into
Speaker 1: a confusing, fast, aggressive, successful Iowa State defense that's pretty scary.
Speaker 1: So it would be a fantastic win for Iowa State
Speaker 1: because Oregon's still pretty good and beating you know, one
Speaker 1: of the better programs in college football in the national stage.
Speaker 1: Would be would be great for the Clones. So this
Speaker 1: this one's a fun one. Are you getting a PS five?
Speaker 1: By the way, is that something that you've I want
Speaker 1: to get one decided? Yeah, when I can, But I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not having much. Fuck, I'll wait till their more
Speaker 1: mass circulation before I you're just gonna get FIFA, Like,
Speaker 1: are you gonna get act other games? Are you just
Speaker 1: upping your feet?
Speaker 2: Probably I'll probably geta I haven't gotten better at FIFA
Speaker 2: in a good five or six years. I don't know
Speaker 2: if the PlayStation five will make that any more attainable,
Speaker 2: but it's really the only game I play.
Speaker 1: If, if, and when the NCAA series comes back, I'm
Speaker 1: all in. That's when I'll get a PS five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm all in. Yeah, absolutely all right.
Speaker 2: Capital One Orange Bowl Number five A and M a
Speaker 2: seven point favorite, squaring off against number thirteen North Carolina
Speaker 2: play this one in January second along with the Fiesta Bowl,
Speaker 2: I should add, which is played.
Speaker 1: A little earlier in the day.
Speaker 2: Teams are getting gift suite and a Torno watch. What
Speaker 2: is a Torno watch?
Speaker 1: Let's see. I mean you can get pretty pricey with these. Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, thousand styles from nearly one hundred brands, offering the
Speaker 2: latest and largest certified pre owned watch collection. Okay, I
Speaker 2: have no idea what this is, but it looks like
Speaker 2: it's a fancy company and it's always good to get
Speaker 2: a watch.
Speaker 1: These are nice watches, pre owned watches. I didn't even
Speaker 1: know that was a thing. Yeah, not a big watch
Speaker 1: guy myself. But do you wear a watch at all? No?
Speaker 2: No, I have an Apple Watch. I wore that for
Speaker 2: a while, but I'm just at home now. No, I
Speaker 2: don't think too.
Speaker 1: I don't think Torneau is a watch brand. Maybe I
Speaker 1: can be corrected by somebody who knows better. I think
Speaker 1: they're a watch retailer. Okay, so I'm sure it'll be
Speaker 1: like one hundred, one hundred and fifty two hundred dollars
Speaker 1: watch or something like that. It should be nice enough
Speaker 1: making a big Bowl game. I really like Carolina and
Speaker 1: the points here. Why is that? First off, this is
Speaker 1: totally a game where the team was the ball last
Speaker 1: is going to win and seventy Yeah, both of these
Speaker 1: teams have sort of been playing down or a little
Speaker 1: bit up to their opponents in the back half of
Speaker 1: the schedule.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a game that's destined to be a shootout.
Speaker 2: I do think a letdown effect would be totally reasonable
Speaker 2: for A and M. They wanted that playoff spot. They're
Speaker 2: not getting it obviously, playing in the Orange Bowl, which
Speaker 2: is a hell of a consolation prize against a good team,
Speaker 2: but it certainly does not have the same shine as
Speaker 2: playing in Alabama or a Clemson. And on the other side, look,
Speaker 2: I stand by the fact that Caroline is a really
Speaker 2: good young team. They're flawed, but they've got a dynamite offense,
Speaker 2: and Mac Brown's going to have them up for this game.
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of plays did last year
Speaker 1: against what the owls of Temple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I go plus the points here, sixty
Speaker 2: eight and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm inclined to.
Speaker 2: Go over as well in the Orange Bowl. The one
Speaker 2: caveat here, especially with the context of this show and
Speaker 2: our argument over the last show and a half, Caroline,
Speaker 2: that win over Carolina by Notre Dame definitely played into
Speaker 2: Notre Dame making it in over A and M.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and Florida State, who did the same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if A and M comes down empties the clip
Speaker 2: to run it up and make a point, that's also
Speaker 2: a possibility. But I'm gonna go Carolina here because I
Speaker 2: think A and M's gettable through the air.
Speaker 1: Yeah. A and M got off for their bowl game
Speaker 1: against a pretty good Oklahoma State team last year. Right,
Speaker 1: that was the Texas Bowl, I want to say, and
Speaker 1: so a pretty decent bowl history, Kellen Mond, if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly, ran pretty wild against Oklahoma State. So something
Speaker 1: to worry about if you're a North Carolina fans, certainly
Speaker 1: with some of the quarterbacks who have damaged that Tar
Speaker 1: Hill defense on the ground. As your precious then book
Speaker 1: did as well. I'm just looking forward to this game.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how a very good A and
Speaker 1: M defense deals with and I know North Carolina has
Speaker 1: at least a couple opt outs at the moment, but
Speaker 1: an offense that's been sensational, so something I'm circling. And
Speaker 1: it's been it's been a minute since Texas A and
Speaker 1: M has been in a New Year's six caliber game, right,
Speaker 1: I think it was the Johnny Manzel So it's what
Speaker 1: twenty twelve season twenty thirteen bowl game. God was it
Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl that year, which was only a pseudo
Speaker 1: New Year six game? Then maybe I'm misremembering all of
Speaker 1: this against Oklahoma, But yeah, a nice bounce back year
Speaker 1: for TEXTA, A, and M after a rough twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: finishing in a New Year six game. Still good even
Speaker 1: with any sort of lingering animus over the playoff committee.
Speaker 2: Got a couple games here on our sheet that are
Speaker 2: going to be over by the time people hear this podcast,
Speaker 2: including the.
Speaker 1: We also had a whole game happened last night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we mentioned app State earlier. Yeah, have State winning
Speaker 2: big over North Texas, but we ran that hell all
Speaker 2: over them. The famous side Hope Tato Bowl between Two
Speaker 2: Lane and Nevada that takes place tonight. Again, we're recording
Speaker 2: this on Tuesday. Won't drop till Wednesday morning, as will
Speaker 2: the Boker a Tone Bowl, which between b YU and UCF,
Speaker 2: which is an interesting matchup.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed Boise. I've been a couple times. I've enjoyed
Speaker 1: my time there. Yeah, Boca Ratone, I've also been to
Speaker 1: Boca and it's what you expect. It's a nice area
Speaker 1: of Florida, but this game. I'm excited for Ty, I'm
Speaker 1: excited for tonight. Is that what you said tonight? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it's what Dylan Gabriel and you see f taking
Speaker 1: on BYU. Dylan Gabriel's father, Garrett Gabriel, beat BYU when
Speaker 1: the height of BYU football late eighties, early nineties. So
Speaker 1: we got Zach Wilson and Dylan Gabriel just bombing down
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see celebrating with a
Speaker 1: gift suite appearance.
Speaker 2: We don't want to invalidate this podcast by talking too
Speaker 2: much about a bowl game that's in the past now.
Speaker 1: Right, So try to react as accurately as possible. Mere
Speaker 1: hours before kickoff the RNL.
Speaker 2: Carriers in New Orleans Bowl. Yeah, Louisiana Attack George Southern.
Speaker 2: Southern is favored. This one's on Wednesday afternoon. No info
Speaker 2: on the gift suite you real here because this is
Speaker 2: a show about honesty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, please, I pay. I went through everywhere.
Speaker 2: I picked Louisiana Tech everywhere, every single spot.
Speaker 1: You know why, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I thought it said Louisiana. Hmmm, smart, I thought it
Speaker 2: said Louisiana La Tech. I think when five and four
Speaker 2: really shouldn't be in a bowl game. Really like not
Speaker 2: good to a.
Speaker 1: Pretty big step back this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one twelve in the sp plus and I think
Speaker 2: they lose this game going away.
Speaker 1: So give me Southern.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's stay down in the golf region. Montgomery Bowl.
Speaker 2: This one also being played on Wednesday. Memphis minus eight
Speaker 2: against the.
Speaker 1: Owls of a.
Speaker 2: You get a gift suite, a beanie, a backpack, and
Speaker 2: a big game autograph football Dan.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Fau FAU. We haven't talked a lot about FAU. Lank
Speaker 2: Kiffin left after last.
Speaker 1: Season, went to Jim Levitt thoughts.
Speaker 2: No, I don't have any deep burning thoughts here other
Speaker 2: than they're fine if they can play.
Speaker 1: Defense and score twenty four points win. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's going to be the case against Memphis because.
Speaker 2: The Tigers, despite the fact that they are not as
Speaker 2: dynamic on offense this year as they have been in
Speaker 2: years past.
Speaker 1: They're still pretty good, still pretty good.
Speaker 2: They're still an above average team, and I think Fau's
Speaker 2: resume pales in comparison. I just don't think they're ready
Speaker 2: for a team like a Memphis.
Speaker 1: I think Memphis wins this one pretty handily. Even though
Speaker 1: you decided against Chick fil A for lunch today, I've
Speaker 1: decided to I'm gonna give you a nugget here, ty, Okay.
Speaker 1: Number one red zone defense in the country, FAU leading
Speaker 1: the country and touchdown percentage allowed in the red zone
Speaker 1: twenty six percent, just ahead of Northwestern eight. It's a
Speaker 1: good defense. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much of this game I'll be
Speaker 2: watching though, New Mexico Bowl, this one on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 2: This one also being played in Frisco, Texas, which is
Speaker 2: a strange twist. We got Houston minus eleven against Hawaii
Speaker 2: our special prop in the Winter Wonders pick them challenge prop.
Speaker 2: That challenge, whatever you want to call it, is how
Speaker 2: many times are they going to reference or show that
Speaker 2: graphic that cites how many miles Hawaii has.
Speaker 1: Traveled this set to play football? Those little dashes with
Speaker 1: like a plane graphic.
Speaker 2: They have had that same animation in the stockpile for
Speaker 2: a good decade and a half. They all with the
Speaker 2: push pins on the map and the dots and the plane.
Speaker 1: It's great. It's always a winner. Got that prop in
Speaker 1: there Christmas Eve? How are you spending Christmas Eve? Not sure,
Speaker 1: not sure yet. It's a weird year. Do you open
Speaker 1: gifts Christmas Eve or Christmas Morning? What's your typically?
Speaker 2: Typically in my family we would do it Christmas Eve.
Speaker 2: We do everything on Christmas Eve. But it's not a
Speaker 2: normal year.
Speaker 1: So special dinner, a prime rib roast, a beyond prime
Speaker 1: rib rosyond. We haven't decided yet, Kate and I have
Speaker 1: not decided yet what we're what we're gonna do a
Speaker 1: couple days out. I know, I know. Do you normally
Speaker 1: make her a nice meal on Christmas Eve? Or she'd
Speaker 1: make you a nice meal some some combination. Normally we
Speaker 1: do the seven fishes up at mommy Ah's. Oh, that's right,
Speaker 1: that's right. You had mentioned that. Okay, but this year
Speaker 1: I'm sure as hell not cooking seven fishes for two people.
Speaker 1: Mm hm and uh. I'm open to suggestions. That's til
Speaker 1: I'm ready to tie you ready, please, you're gonna make
Speaker 1: the seven fish tacos. You're gonna make seven fish tacos.
Speaker 1: Maybe you have three, she has four, maybe you each
Speaker 1: have two, and you save some of the seven fish tacos.
Speaker 1: It gets the job done, and it's not a ton
Speaker 1: of food, not too heavy, and the spirit is still
Speaker 1: there and it's Tacos, which is very own brand for you.
Speaker 1: If you can't trust somebody with the last name Rubinstein
Speaker 1: for Christmas advice, that's right, what you're doing, right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Uh No, they get a gift suite, nothing else listed
Speaker 2: for the New Mexico Bowl. Houston an eleven point favorite.
Speaker 2: I think Houston's demonstrably better. Do you have any burning
Speaker 2: thoughts in this game?
Speaker 1: No, I've liked watching Chevon Cordero all year long. I
Speaker 1: hope he plays the Chamella Bowl.
Speaker 2: Buffalo against Marshall to get a gift suite, a beanie,
Speaker 2: a backpack, and a big game autograph football.
Speaker 1: Got any thoughts in this one? Uh? Yeah? The Buffalo
Speaker 1: offense has been quite fun. It's an offense versus defense game.
Speaker 1: Certainly Marshall didn't finish the season in any sort of
Speaker 1: meaningful way with their two losses on a bigger stage.
Speaker 1: But oh, I was burping right there, Ty. That's what
Speaker 1: you do when you get older, You just burp right
Speaker 1: through it. No, this is an attractive game to me,
Speaker 1: sort of a mid day what one thirty Central time,
Speaker 1: two thirty Eastern. Yeah, I'm probably gonna watch a good
Speaker 1: chunk of this game. Gift sweed beanie backpack, big game
Speaker 1: autograph football.
Speaker 2: On Christmas, on Christmas, Christmas. Yeah, I'm going Marshall. I'm
Speaker 2: going Marshall. Their defense is really good. I think Buffalo's
Speaker 2: season was a bit of a mirage. I do really
Speaker 2: I love Landslide pulled, but this is a really good example.
Speaker 2: If I ain't played, nobody to give me Marshall. Okay,
Speaker 2: Christmas four and a half point dog in this game. Okay,
Speaker 2: the Union Home mortgage gasp, berea bull Now this is gasp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is confusing to me. For the long Marshall
Speaker 1: lost this game last year they did UCF. Yeah, for the.
Speaker 2: Longest time, I thought Gaspot Priya was the sponsor of
Speaker 2: the Bowl and not that it was the name of
Speaker 2: the boll in like Chamella Bowl fashion.
Speaker 1: Right, It's likely going to be canceled, by the way,
Speaker 1: because South Carolina can't play. Yeah, to be clear, to
Speaker 1: be clear, let's not waste too many words on Let's
Speaker 1: not spill too many too much ink.
Speaker 2: As they say, it's supposed to be between uab u
Speaker 2: ab and South Carolina. South Carolina went too and eight
Speaker 2: and fired their coach this year.
Speaker 1: Dan m hm.
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure how I feel about them playing
Speaker 2: in a bowl. To begin with, I would be inclined
Speaker 2: to go uab by whatever lay the points. I might
Speaker 2: win it by three touchdowns if they play it. But again,
Speaker 2: if is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, it
Speaker 2: does not look like the Gasparea Bowl is going to happen.
Speaker 1: No, that's too bad.
Speaker 2: The fb C Mortgage Cure Bowl Coastal Carolina minus seven
Speaker 2: against Liberty. Play this one on Boxing Day day after Christmas.
Speaker 2: Earlier in the day, get a gift suite, a dry
Speaker 2: fit shirt, a canteen, and a Sasquatch party bag.
Speaker 1: Can you look that up? Can you tell me what
Speaker 1: that is? Sasquatch party bag? What is a Sasquatch party bag?
Speaker 1: A skascotchy ba ba bah. It's a must have item
Speaker 1: that does it all ideal for summer outdoor sports, hiking, camping, rafting,
Speaker 1: water sports.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I think it keeps stuff dry, okay, as far as
Speaker 1: I can tell, like a canvas bag of some kind.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, looks pretty good. This is a good matchup.
Speaker 2: This is a good matchup. It's a coastal Swan song.
Speaker 2: I saw their coach was talking at halftime or during
Speaker 2: the third quarter of the app State game of the
Speaker 2: bowl game because they played that one down at Coastal's
Speaker 2: home stadium. Mm hm, and he's excited about the matchup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Liberty canceled this matchup earlier on
Speaker 1: in the season, so I can understand the excit. It's
Speaker 1: good that they get to play it.
Speaker 2: Far be it from me at this point to bet
Speaker 2: against the Shans seven points seven points here.
Speaker 1: They got a lot to play for. Yeah, absolutely, And
Speaker 1: it's not like they're ending with a you know, a
Speaker 1: mid level ACC team or Big twelve team like there is.
Speaker 1: There's a certain amount of pride with Liberty being one
Speaker 1: of the absolute better you know. I mean they're independent
Speaker 1: but G five level schools. So yeah, I think there's
Speaker 1: they're gonna be up for this game to finish out
Speaker 1: that season undefeated and claim that national championship.
Speaker 2: Two other games quickly on some of the twenty sixth
Speaker 2: the Serve Pro First Responder Bowl. You may recall this
Speaker 2: one from was it a year or two ago and
Speaker 2: it got canceled midway through or very early on.
Speaker 1: Like the first Oh right, Boise Boston College Serve Pro
Speaker 1: First Responder Bowl between Louisiana and UTSA.
Speaker 2: And at the same time it's the Lending Tree Bowl
Speaker 2: between Western Kentucky and Georgia State. The gift package here
Speaker 2: for both of these games is something that I want
Speaker 2: to discuss.
Speaker 1: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: So on the Serve Pro side, you get the gift suite,
Speaker 2: you get the football, you get the apparel item. You
Speaker 2: also get the Anchor phone charger.
Speaker 1: Is that how you pronounce it? It's not anchor. I think
Speaker 1: it may be anchor, but anchor makes me sound more
Speaker 1: sum I love anchor, Like that was a penpal you
Speaker 1: had in Hamburg right when you were in fifth grade.
Speaker 1: New letter from Anchor.
Speaker 2: Continue, how do you feel if you were a top
Speaker 2: flight recruit going a bowl game you get the phone charger.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good gift. I mean it's a
Speaker 1: good gift for current dan it is a good gift.
Speaker 1: I mean everybody should have one of these. I think
Speaker 1: it's crucial. But you know, it doesn't really get you going,
Speaker 1: like a PS five does.
Speaker 2: I just feel like, if you're going to a bowl game,
Speaker 2: if you get any use out of the free gifts
Speaker 2: that you get, that's a bonus.
Speaker 1: And the phone charger. You're going to use.
Speaker 2: You're gonna use a phone charger, So I don't think
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed with that does not have the heights of
Speaker 2: the Lending Tree Bowl, which I'm going to talk about here,
Speaker 2: But it's it's utility.
Speaker 1: It's got utility. Yeah, absolutely, utility. Good gift, good gift
Speaker 1: to give receive if you're looking for a stocking stuffer.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily this brand, but I've got a couple of
Speaker 1: this brand. They seem good. On the flip side of this, Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm a Lending Tree Bowl. I want to talk about.
Speaker 2: This topper thoughts gift suite Maui Jim sunglasses, a Nixon Watch,
Speaker 2: wireless earbuds, and a Hudson Coal Duffel bag.
Speaker 1: I'm looking up Hudson Cole now, is that Kenneth Cole's brother.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Hudson Cole Duffel bag.
Speaker 2: Maui Jim has played in the Bowl space before. We're
Speaker 2: familiar with his work. I don't know if I've seen
Speaker 2: a Nixon Watch wireless earbuds as well. They don't list
Speaker 2: the brand name here, but we know that wireless earbuds.
Speaker 1: Have changed our lives.
Speaker 2: Dan, absolutely the Duffel Bag feels like this could put
Speaker 2: this one over the top here and maybe be a
Speaker 2: very underrated bullswag package.
Speaker 1: Good looking Duffel based in Brooklyn, about one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty bucks, is what it says on their website.
Speaker 2: Now, is it like an army Duffel bag like you
Speaker 2: take with you into battle or is it?
Speaker 1: What? What does this look like? Describe it? You got
Speaker 1: to you got a long weekend trip to the Poconos
Speaker 1: tie Okay, you don't know what the weather's going to be,
Speaker 1: so you've got, you know, light outerwear and some some chinos,
Speaker 1: maybe a pair of sandals for lounging. You put it
Speaker 1: in one of these, You're good to go. Okay.
Speaker 2: Two games on the twenty ninth, not a sponsor, not
Speaker 2: a spoer, Hudson as I walk you through an ideal,
Speaker 2: lovely weekend with a Duffel bag. Two games in the
Speaker 2: twenty ninth, the Valero Almo Bowl between Texas and Colorado
Speaker 2: and the Cheese It Bowl in all its pageantry, Miami
Speaker 2: against Oklahoma State. Texas favored by ten and a half.
Speaker 2: I did not see who's favored in the Miami Oklahoma
Speaker 2: State game. I'll pull that one up.
Speaker 1: Some Big Twelve history here, Tye, between Texas and Colorado.
Speaker 1: You've got Colorado beating Texas the edge of mount in
Speaker 1: two thousand and one in the Big twelve Championship game
Speaker 1: after Colorado laid waste to Nebraska. Who's still somehow made
Speaker 1: the national championship game the ultimate twist. I'm want to
Speaker 1: say it's a Chris Brown Chris Simms matchup from two
Speaker 1: thousand and one, and then in two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: the Vince youngyear, Texas ended up facing Colorado in the
Speaker 1: Big Twelve Championship game seventy to three, seventy to three,
Speaker 1: and as our resident being blown out in a conference
Speaker 1: championship game, tie, what do you think Colorado players were
Speaker 1: going through? They're losing seventy to three, five hundred and
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars Amazon gift card. That's a lot. You could
Speaker 1: do a lot with Pacific. Yeah, do a lot of
Speaker 1: damage with that mini helmet team Panoramic photo. All right,
Speaker 1: that's very solid. Some puffy tacos here here's definitely not
Speaker 1: a sponsor. I hope this place is open. I'm checking
Speaker 1: right now. If you end up going to the Alamobile,
Speaker 1: which is normally let's see two Yeah, two m Smokehouse.
Speaker 1: It's a From everything I've heard from people who have
Speaker 1: been to everything I've watched, it looks like an amazing
Speaker 1: barbecue place with a Mexican influence in San Antonio. That's
Speaker 1: where I would go if you're heading to San Antono.
Speaker 2: Is is Texas motivated for this game?
Speaker 1: Oh? Texas care Their head coach needed a vote of confidence.
Speaker 1: Colorado might be okay, might be a little bit inflated
Speaker 1: record wise and bowl wise. Texas got up for this
Speaker 1: game last year against Utah their bowl game. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say so. Yeah, I seem to finish the year
Speaker 1: on a strong note.
Speaker 2: I think I'm with you. Colorado's a really good story,
Speaker 2: really good story. Sure, sort of cant out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Had coaching issues right with Mel Tucker leaving very early
Speaker 2: on or late, I guess in the process at the
Speaker 2: start of twenty twenty. You bring in Carl Durrell. No
Speaker 2: one knew what to expect, and there was a shot
Speaker 2: there for a little bit that they'd go undefeated in
Speaker 2: conference and they're limited conference slate.
Speaker 1: So they're a good story.
Speaker 2: Texas I think is a top twenty team and They're
Speaker 2: not without flaws, and we may argue both on and
Speaker 2: offline about whether or not we think sam Ellnger is good.
Speaker 2: But Texas is a top twenty team. I think they're
Speaker 2: motivated here.
Speaker 1: Ten and a half. I will lay the ten and
Speaker 1: a half. I feel good about Texas in this game. Same.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've had opt outs, but yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: good about Texas. Why not on the cheese at bull side?
Speaker 2: Oklahoma States favored by two over Miami favored by two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Miami just lost their star defensive ends, finished the
Speaker 1: season with a bit of a whimper. Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it is going to be an ugie game.
Speaker 1: This is an ugly game. This is two teams that
Speaker 1: want the season to be over with. Miami as a
Speaker 1: program has a recent history of just evaporating right before
Speaker 1: a ball. Back it up, pack it in right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they do have that history that worries me a little bit.
Speaker 1: But you know, different year, different squad, but still worrisome.
Speaker 1: I'm going to Oklahoma State. Gimme give me Oaki State.
Speaker 1: That was Amazon gift card watch backpack. Pretty solid. Jees
Speaker 1: A Bowl.
Speaker 2: December thirtieth, Duke's Mayo Bowl between Wisconsin and Wake Forest,
Speaker 2: and then we've got the trans perfect Music City Bowl
Speaker 2: between Iowa and the Zoo. At least as of now,
Speaker 2: we don't know what's going to happen with maybe with Iowa,
Speaker 2: but let's start with the Mayo Bowl.
Speaker 1: Duke's Mayo Bowl. Yeah, Wisconsin a six and a half
Speaker 1: point favorite. That can't be all right, six and a half.
Speaker 2: I guess you're giving me six and a half points
Speaker 2: and Wake Forest. I think Wake will be fired up
Speaker 2: for that game. I don't know where Wisconsin's at. They've
Speaker 2: kind of been a mess the last few weeks. I'm
Speaker 2: going Wake plus whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't have strong thoughts. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to pretend to.
Speaker 2: Music City Bowl. We can talk about this one. I
Speaker 2: guess for now, Iowa's a fourteen point favorite. And my
Speaker 2: only comment here would be that Iowa has been among
Speaker 2: the most predictable and reliable teams down the stretch. So
Speaker 2: I like Miszoo, I like the story. I think they've
Speaker 2: certainly played well in year one under Eli Drinkwitz. But
Speaker 2: Iowa's been steady Eddie. So I go Iowa here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just hope it happens.
Speaker 2: Oh, all right, how do we say this company Mercary mrcary,
Speaker 2: I believe. So it says make a little money on
Speaker 2: their website, sell from home, make a little money.
Speaker 1: So I don't. Is this like a Rakhuton? What is this? What?
Speaker 1: I think so poshmark type of thing where you can
Speaker 1: sell stuff. I think I've seen commercials for this company. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I think it's something like that. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: it appears to be.
Speaker 2: The Mercari Texas Bowl between Arkansas and TCU. Okay, they
Speaker 2: played a few years ago.
Speaker 1: They had a home and home. They did run. They
Speaker 1: did the AutoZone Liberty Bowl.
Speaker 2: Get in the zone with now Army and West Virginia
Speaker 2: Army getting into a bowl game, and the Arizona Bowl,
Speaker 2: which again in a little bit of question given what's
Speaker 2: going on with San Jose State, but they're set to
Speaker 2: square off against Ball.
Speaker 1: State, which would be a really fun matchup two teams.
Speaker 2: That won their conferences. Yeah, if it happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Liberty Bowl. I'm glad Army got into a bowl game,
Speaker 1: even though it was at the expense of not the
Speaker 1: expense of but it was you know, it happened because
Speaker 1: of Tennessee's issues. But nine and two Army was in
Speaker 1: bowl limbo and so good that they got to that
Speaker 1: they get to play a team like West Virginia. Bass
Speaker 1: Pro shops gift card. Okay, they sell a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Anybody can find something at basketball shops. Phillip soundbar, bluetooth
Speaker 1: speaker for me, I can find youth for that, Nike shoes,
Speaker 1: sports sandals, sunglasses, and backpack and a commembative football. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's some Memphis barbecue in the process. That's good. Getting
Speaker 1: the zone, baby, yeah, in the zone. And then the
Speaker 1: Arizona Bowl is a worst of all, a good game,
Speaker 1: but also bb tech bluetooth waterproof speaker and wireless earbuds. Okay,
Speaker 1: Little Lemon new Crew backpack. It feels like a premium
Speaker 1: backpack experience. That's good. And a Hudson cole not Duffel bag,
Speaker 1: but stainless steel cooozy set all right. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I've ever seen a stainless steel coozy. I used
Speaker 1: to like the coozies made a fix that like a
Speaker 1: vacuum sealed coozie type of stainless Oh, that could be
Speaker 1: stainless steal couzy. I think you put in I actually
Speaker 1: have seen these. I think you put in your bottle
Speaker 1: of beer into Yeah, I have one that minute that
Speaker 1: keeps it cold. Okay, yeah, okay, I take it back.
Speaker 1: I have seen these.
Speaker 2: Uh okay, no burning thoughts for me, but I'll go Arkansas,
Speaker 2: West Virginia and San Jose State.
Speaker 1: Mm. Same same.
Speaker 2: Also on New Year's Eve, Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl
Speaker 2: Tulsa minus two and a half against Mississippi State. They
Speaker 2: get a gift suite in an Encore phone charger, a football,
Speaker 2: and an apparel item weirdly looking like a defensive struggle
Speaker 2: here looking like a defensive struggle. Yeah, but I'll go
Speaker 2: Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: Why not? I think I just saw Mike Leech called
Speaker 1: twenty twenty joyless joyless heading into the bowl season. But
Speaker 1: that might be the most accurate thing he's ever seen.
Speaker 1: So yeah, defensive struggle was at least something, And it
Speaker 1: feels like one of those games that gets very strange
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. That brings us to New Year's Day.
Speaker 2: We've got the Outback Bowl between Indiana and Ole, miss
Speaker 2: No details available on the gift suite. The VRBO Citrus
Speaker 2: Bowl between Northwestern and Auburn. They get a gift suite
Speaker 2: of four hundred dollars Amazon gift card to watch in
Speaker 2: a backpack. And then we got the two playoff games,
Speaker 2: which maybe we can close out the show talking about.
Speaker 2: I'll also mention that on January second, we've got the
Speaker 2: tax Slayer Gator Bowl between NC State and Kentucky. Kentucky
Speaker 2: favored by two and a half, they get a gift
Speaker 2: suite JBL noise canceling headphones and a Bluetooth speaker inside
Speaker 2: of a customized box. Hell yeah, Mawi Jim getting in
Speaker 2: on the action with some sun glasses.
Speaker 1: The Fossil Watch.
Speaker 2: Fossil not as active this bull circuit correct, but getting
Speaker 2: in in a big way here in the tax Layer
Speaker 2: Gator Bull.
Speaker 1: I'd love to get this gift situation here if I'm
Speaker 1: a if I'm a wolf pack member or wildcat and
Speaker 1: a backpack. So any thoughts on any of those games?
Speaker 1: It's three games, Uh, Kentucky's Kentucky struggled. I think I
Speaker 1: like nc stayed a little bit here, finishing their season
Speaker 1: with a bang Indiana riding. Even though the firepower on
Speaker 1: offense got a lot of the attention, that defense was
Speaker 1: very much improved this year with Caane God. They loose
Speaker 1: their their defensive coordinator to South Alabama the who Jaguars
Speaker 1: head coach Kane Womack, So I think he's sticking with
Speaker 1: Indiana for now. Indiana, certainly, I saw some administration members
Speaker 1: putting out a statement about how disappointed they are that
Speaker 1: they didn't make a New Year six game, but all
Speaker 1: the same should be entertaining Indiana Ole miss Tom Allen
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin great cool. I think that those are all
Speaker 1: my thoughts on the Outback Bowl and then Northwestern Auburn January. First,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine Auburn wants any part of this football game,
Speaker 1: so I assume who's the interim? Is it Kevin Steele?
Speaker 1: I believe it is. That didn't go well last time
Speaker 1: he coached a team I know, But could he Bill
Speaker 1: Stewart this thing? Does he run a Bill Stewart this thing?
Speaker 1: So these two teams met in the twenty I believe
Speaker 1: twenty ten Outback Bowl. We're talking Cody Burns, Mikey Kofka,
Speaker 1: and a tight Auburn win. Same kicker who kicked the
Speaker 1: game winner against Oregon the following year kick game winner
Speaker 1: in this game. So there is history. And I also
Speaker 1: feel like either Northwestern or Iowa plays Auburn or something
Speaker 1: every random as every single year again this season. Yeah
Speaker 1: so cool? Uh yeah, it seems like a good enough
Speaker 1: you know, four hundred bucks Amazon. You can find some
Speaker 1: things there watching backpack, right, I go Northwestern, I go
Speaker 1: NC State, and I'm going Old Miss. I'm going I'm
Speaker 1: on Indiana, l e O Northwestern and the i C
Speaker 1: State once again.
Speaker 2: Then that brings us to our two playoff games before
Speaker 2: we close it out. Got the Rose Bowl game played
Speaker 2: in Arlington. This features a gift suite, fossil watch, Augio backpack,
Speaker 2: new era nine to fifty snap back adjustable hat. Of course,
Speaker 2: it's Notre Dame and Alabama. And then we get the
Speaker 2: All Stage Sugar Bowl later on in the evening, Ohio
Speaker 2: State Clemson in the Superdome. It is gift suite, a
Speaker 2: new era hat, a Diesel watch, and a mini helmet.
Speaker 2: Have you given any early thoughts to either of these games?
Speaker 2: I know you hate Notre Dame most people. To me,
Speaker 2: most people hate Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: It's fine. What about Ohio State Clemson? I think I
Speaker 1: like Clemson a lot. Yeah, I think I do. And
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that Ohio State roster wise isn't a lot
Speaker 1: better place than they were against Michigan State and Northwestern.
Speaker 1: And I know they changed up the rules a little bit.
Speaker 1: They changed twenty one to seventeen days. So it sounds
Speaker 1: like Ohio State's going to have a number of guys back.
Speaker 1: So that's good. We all want full strength for all
Speaker 1: of these games if possible, especially these bigger games. But
Speaker 1: I think I like Clemson, you know, comfortably more than
Speaker 1: Ohio State right now. Ohio State's taking a pretty big
Speaker 1: step back on defense this year. Clemson's kind of built
Speaker 1: to take advantage. They seem to be peaking the right time.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I just like the Tigers.
Speaker 2: Here. I am waiting personally for the line to come
Speaker 2: down from seven and a half to seven and then
Speaker 2: I'm going to put everything in my betting account on Clemson.
Speaker 1: The hook.
Speaker 2: The hook scares me a little bit here, yeah, I
Speaker 2: know a little bit. But beyond that, I really like Clemson.
Speaker 2: And maybe there's maybe there's some recency bias here with
Speaker 2: what Clemson did to Notre Dame and frankly, what Ohio
Speaker 2: State didn't do against Northwestern.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I gain they were down forty seven players
Speaker 1: or whatever it was. I understand that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I want to try to not steer too
Speaker 2: too much into how I'm feeling there.
Speaker 1: But I just I think Clemson's a much better team
Speaker 1: much the word much, we say much better. Like I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's justin field. Still, where's the scarlet and gray? Right?
Speaker 1: He does wear the scarlet and gray? The running backs
Speaker 1: went for three hundred against a good defense. It's a
Speaker 1: very good Ohio State team. Don't get me wrong. I
Speaker 1: just think Clemson's better. I think Clemson's much better. So
Speaker 1: I'm inclined to go Clemson. Here, Rose Bowl, hose Ball,
Speaker 1: Texas Gift Suite, Fossil watch as your backpack yep, new
Speaker 1: era nine to fifty snapback adjustable hat seems good. Bama
Speaker 1: favored by nineteen and a half. So it's coming down.
Speaker 1: You told me twenty and a half on Sunday.
Speaker 2: It opened around seventeen, when up to twenty and a
Speaker 2: half came down to nineteen and a half.
Speaker 1: Money's pouring in, Irish money pouring in. Where would you
Speaker 1: bet in this game? And don't give me the like
Speaker 1: I always bet against Notre Dame, I would bet Alabama. Okay,
Speaker 1: if I were betting because.
Speaker 2: I don't have much confidence that Notre Dame is going
Speaker 2: to be able to go toe to toe and score
Speaker 2: with Alabama, because that's the thing. So often when we've
Speaker 2: talked about Bama, it's been in the context of who's
Speaker 2: going to score on that defense.
Speaker 1: I think you can score on the defense. This year.
Speaker 2: Florida just showed that you can score on this defense.
Speaker 2: Ole Miss showed you could score on this defense. It's
Speaker 2: not impenetrable. I'm we're inclined to go minus the number
Speaker 2: because of the Bama offense, then I would be in
Speaker 2: previous years because of the defense. I just I don't
Speaker 2: see Notre Dame scoring with the Crimson Tide. That's why
Speaker 2: I delay the number here.
Speaker 1: Notre Dame after the Clemson game is seventy ninth nationally
Speaker 1: in terms of explosive pass plays allowed. No, I mean offense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what the whole thing's predicated on, isn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that long pass so that that's worrisome. That's worrisome, and
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if Notre Dame's got the
Speaker 2: personnel to guard against it. My point all along has
Speaker 2: been that I don't think anybody's got the personnel to
Speaker 2: guard against it.
Speaker 1: Nobody. That's why you've got to win a game fifty
Speaker 1: two to whatever, forty six against Florida.
Speaker 2: If you want to beat a team like a Clemson
Speaker 2: or in Alabama, I don't think Notre Dame's got it
Speaker 2: in them.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: That being said, they want an over time game earlier
Speaker 2: this year, which you conveniently forget about. It's so important
Speaker 2: tie forty seven, we must, we must put weight on
Speaker 2: that game over the number two team in the country now,
Speaker 2: the current team in the country. Yeah, so we did
Speaker 2: have to go to extra football in order to get
Speaker 2: to forty seven points. But I just I don't see
Speaker 2: it happening here. I don't see Notre Dame going into
Speaker 2: a shootout and beating Alabama.
Speaker 1: If if I gave you an over under, I don't
Speaker 1: know what the number is. I'm sure there is somewhere
Speaker 1: you can find this Notre Dame's total point total in
Speaker 1: this game. Yep. If I said twenty two and a half,
Speaker 1: where are you going, I'd probably go over Okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you think maybe something like in a forty nine
Speaker 1: to twenty eight kind of fashion, something like that, Okay,
Speaker 1: I worry about a game like we just saw. I
Speaker 1: worry about.
Speaker 2: A really quick start for Alabama and the rest of
Speaker 2: it is just kind of on cruise control. And look,
Speaker 2: we've seen a bunch of games like that now in
Speaker 2: the playoff, seen a bunch of games like that in
Speaker 2: the short history of the playoff where these semi finals
Speaker 2: are blowout and.
Speaker 1: I worry about that.
Speaker 2: Look, could we could spin our yarns about Notre Dame
Speaker 2: and where they're at in the pecking order, what the
Speaker 2: loss to Clemson means within the context of this season
Speaker 2: and the broader context of the Brian Kelly era. They're
Speaker 2: just a really good team to me, let me, let
Speaker 2: me say and that's fine, but let me say this.
Speaker 2: Let me bring this thing full circle. Fall circle, baby,
Speaker 2: it is. It is very rare that you get drilled
Speaker 2: in a conference championship game, or any big game for
Speaker 2: that matter, the way Notre Dame did, and you get
Speaker 2: a chance in the very next game to potentially redeem
Speaker 2: yourself when you zoom out and look.
Speaker 1: At where Notre Dame's been in the Brian Kelly era.
Speaker 2: The knock on Kelly that he hasn't been able to
Speaker 2: win the big one, right now, say what you want
Speaker 2: about the Clemson game earlier in the year, whether or
Speaker 2: not it's valid or not, they still did win that game.
Speaker 2: It was a big game at the time. It's still
Speaker 2: a nice win for Notre Dame. It got him in
Speaker 2: the playoff. If they get blown out in consecutive games
Speaker 2: to Clemson and Alabama, I'm real curious to see what
Speaker 2: the reaction is about the Notre Dame community.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I haven't found anybody in Notre Dame world that thinks
Speaker 2: that Notre Dame's winning this game against Alabama. But to
Speaker 2: get embarrassed potentially two games in a row against the
Speaker 2: top two teams in the country would be a really
Speaker 2: tough pill to swallow for Notre Dame fans, for Brian Kelly,
Speaker 2: it would definitely set things back a little bit just
Speaker 2: in terms of perception.
Speaker 1: But there's also no expectation. As you mentioned, there's zero expectations,
Speaker 1: so there's it's hard to be disappointed if you're not
Speaker 1: expecting to hang with and or beat Alabama going in
Speaker 1: as a nearly three touchdown dog. I think in twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: I think by kickoff time, Notre Dame fans were like, look,
Speaker 1: we've got this defense, We've got Bob Diaco and his
Speaker 1: beautiful flowing hair and a Heisman finalist and Antiteo that
Speaker 1: was the year he was a finalist, right yep. We
Speaker 1: keep winning games. We just wean it's not always pretty,
Speaker 1: but we keep winning. We have Mike Golick junior up front.
Speaker 1: He was on that team, right yep, yep. I think
Speaker 1: people that talk themselves into that defense keeping him in
Speaker 1: that game, and then Eddie Lacy pulled on an Alabama jersey.
Speaker 1: But I think since then, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: with every successive loss, I think Notre Dame fans are
Speaker 1: more realistic, as crazy as that might sound, because Notre
Speaker 1: Dame fans, like basically everybody else, can be unrealistic when
Speaker 1: the lights get bright. But I think Notre Dame fans
Speaker 1: going into this game, no, I had a really good year,
Speaker 1: and we know what the worst can look like, and
Speaker 1: we know that Alabama's better than the team probably or
Speaker 1: you know, has had a better season than the team
Speaker 1: that just drilled us. So this is just me guessing,
Speaker 1: total guess. I could not be obviously further away from
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame community. I think they just want to
Speaker 1: They just want to show up, right, You just you
Speaker 1: want to you want to look pretty good. You want
Speaker 1: to not get embarrassed once again. I just think that
Speaker 1: another embarrassment would be so difficult to get over. So
Speaker 1: what do you go a to Urban Meyer. You think
Speaker 1: that's like the school? He'll say, s too. No, okay,
Speaker 1: so what do you mean.
Speaker 2: I'm not proposing that a coaching change or anything like
Speaker 2: that should happen.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that.
Speaker 2: I just think I don't care how realistic your fan
Speaker 2: base is. You get embarrassed two weeks in a row
Speaker 2: to the top two teams in the country. After the
Speaker 2: whole goal of this era, the slow drumbeat of Notre
Speaker 2: Dame football to continue to get better, has been to
Speaker 2: get into games like this and perform admirably. If they
Speaker 2: fall short again, they did it once earlier in the year.
Speaker 2: Say what you want about that game. They did do
Speaker 2: it once. If they do it two times in a
Speaker 2: row now where they get embarrassed, that's that's just so difficult.
Speaker 1: So what do you do do You just do nothing
Speaker 1: and hope that the kid from San Diego's good. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: What you do I think it's part of where we're
Speaker 2: at with college football. It's a larger discussion about competitive
Speaker 2: balance and playoffs, and well.
Speaker 1: You're hiring a new defensive coordinator, right.
Speaker 2: Hiring a new defensive coordinator. Defense is not going a
Speaker 2: problem this year? Well it was last week.
Speaker 1: It was last week.
Speaker 2: But the problem last week was that they went up
Speaker 2: against Clemson at full strength, and the problem on January
Speaker 2: first is going to be going up against Alabama full strength.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you can do anything that's been that's
Speaker 2: been part of what's driven the rest of college football crazy.
Speaker 2: Not much you can do when you're trying to compete
Speaker 2: against these guys.
Speaker 1: So then my question is, I mean, this is probably
Speaker 1: a different answer for you and for the you know,
Speaker 1: there's no one unifying thought but to you, and what
Speaker 1: sense do you get of the Notre Dame fan base
Speaker 1: as a whole, even though it's not a homogeneous group.
Speaker 1: What's the measuring stick? Is the measuring stick North Carolina
Speaker 1: gotta be better at North Carolina? Or is the measuring
Speaker 1: stick Alabama Clemson? The measuring sticks Alabama Clemson?
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I don't think anyone comes away from a
Speaker 2: potential embarrassment against Alabama and says, well, it was Alabama,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 1: Know they gave it their best.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think, if anything, I think it
Speaker 2: stirs up a lot of the same emotion that we've
Speaker 2: seen throughout the entire Brian Kelly era. We hear even
Speaker 2: more about him not being able to win the Big One,
Speaker 2: even though they did beat Clemson, but this is obviously
Speaker 2: a bigger stage where it counts a little bit more.
Speaker 2: We would continue to hear that kind of stuff, and
Speaker 2: it's play Brian Kelly the entire time he's been there.
Speaker 2: It would continue to play him even despite the fact
Speaker 2: that they had a really good season.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're also asking Tommy Reese to outduel Brent
Speaker 1: Venables and Nick Saban a little bit of tough nice
Speaker 1: to a gunfight. Yeah, it is a tough ask. Nothing
Speaker 1: appreciable changes with Notre Dame if they lose thirty seven
Speaker 1: to three. I don't think so. Okay, No, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. All right, Hey, I hope it's a good game.
Speaker 1: I like good football games. I'm tired of blowouts. I
Speaker 1: know Chris Shower is watching his Instagram, He's tired of
Speaker 1: plot Yeah, he's tired of stretching during games. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: got to talk about somebody's high school teammate here, got
Speaker 1: to talk about a pet situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well, TV Bold season is fast approaching. We
Speaker 2: are going to have a show that drops on Christmas Day,
Speaker 2: so do stay tuned for that. I think we're going
Speaker 2: to talk a little dannalytics. Is that the plan?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, we are to improve teams, tams who regressed offenses. Defenses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about some context, talk some context on the
Speaker 1: show that's going to drop on Christmas Day.
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