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Speaker 2: And them and Tye welcome back to the solid Rebo

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Speaker 2: as always your Notre Dame hater in chief Dan Rubenstein, Sir,

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 1: I honestly didn't think I said anything, and I know that.

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Speaker 1: My only regret about what I said about, you know,

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Speaker 1: You buyd a commemorative issue of whatever magazine celebrating the

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Speaker 2: It definitely takes This was my whole point. No, you

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Speaker 1: Shout out Ship Patterson, shoutout Barnes Simmons, shout out Tom Fornellie.

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Speaker 2: So good matchup striking is one that's going to mean

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Speaker 1: It's a great matchup and it's Bob Stoopsy right, Florida Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm this one. I have circled as one

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Speaker 1: of the more watchable games. And we've got a gift

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Speaker 1: suite we do have.

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Speaker 2: We have a report here on their official gifts for

436
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Speaker 2: the participants.

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Speaker 1: Gift suite three hundred and ninety dollars MasterCard, gift card, Okay,

438
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Speaker 1: fossil watch and a commemorative football Now without fully knowing

439
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Speaker 1: what's available in the gift suite and how many points

440
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 1: each option is worth, I can tell you it's not creative,

441
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Speaker 1: but you know, three hundred dollars, three hundred ninety dollars

442
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 1: a MasterCard cash whatever, it's pretty good. Yeah, that's not bad.

443
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: It's versatile, right, it's versatile. There's a limit of you know,

444
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Speaker 1: five six hundred bucks I believe in terms of what

445
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Speaker 1: can be given to each player, and they filled it

446
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Speaker 1: out with the gift card. Fine, it feels normal.

447
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Speaker 2: This next game here is one that pretty consistently has

448
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: a really good gift situation.

449
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

450
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Speaker 2: And that's the PlayStation Fiesta Bowl this year. Of course

451
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Speaker 2: they're gonna walk away with PlayStation fives, which you can't

452
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: find anywhere right now. Pretty good, and you get it

453
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Speaker 2: just for playing in the game. You also get a

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Speaker 2: Lululemon Cruiser backpack, which had just looked up. I'm sure

455
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Speaker 2: it's price.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's like one hundred and.

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Speaker 2: No eighty nine, but one hundred bucks, yeah, whatever, it's

458
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Speaker 2: a lot. It looks like, oh, it says, oh snap,

459
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Speaker 2: we're all out, so maybe they gave them all the

460
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Speaker 2: way to the bowl game.

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Speaker 1: Looks like a nice backpack. I'm looking like a nice backpack.

462
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Speaker 1: Huge proponent of a good backpack. Love a good backpack.

463
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: I used to do the messenger bag thing and it

464
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Speaker 1: made no sense. One shoulder was sore. I was all off.

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Speaker 1: Can wear a backpack even out that weight distribution.

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Speaker 2: We've got number twenty five Oregon, number ten, Iowa State,

467
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Speaker 2: Iowa State. It's a four point favorite. I love Iowa

468
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Speaker 2: State here. I love the Clones. And this is not

469
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Speaker 2: some way to like seize on you after your comments. Again,

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Speaker 2: whatever you want about Oregon will be cool, No, no

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Speaker 2: thank you. I just organ's here in a technicality. You

472
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Speaker 2: know that here in a technicality. They played well enough

473
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Speaker 2: to win against USC. It's still a good win. But

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Speaker 2: you're pretty early on the bandwagon of saying that Oregon's

475
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Speaker 2: not particularly good and this is a hell of a

476
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Speaker 2: way to close out the season for Iowa State to

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Speaker 2: win the Fiesta Bowl. So I just I think there's

478
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Speaker 2: so much on the line for Matt Campbell here. It

479
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Speaker 2: definitely means more to Iowa State than maybe almost anybody

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Speaker 2: else in college football.

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Speaker 1: Matt Campbell always gets his troops fired up. So give

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Speaker 1: me the Clones. They did notre Dame not play Iowa

483
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Speaker 1: State last year in a bowl game they did, just

484
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Speaker 1: circling each other for the solid verb bal both taking

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Speaker 1: on Iowa State within almost a calendar year ish. Correct,

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Speaker 1: Pretty good? Yeah, Well, we have a duo of quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in Arizona and Brock Party and Tyler Shuck. If Tyler

488
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Speaker 1: Shuck starts this game, I imagine you saw Anthony Brown

489
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Speaker 1: got some snaps against USC. Oregon. Iowa State no history

490
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Speaker 1: of playing football. I looked it up. I don't believe

491
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Speaker 1: they've ever played, at least not anywhere, you know, in

492
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Speaker 1: the last like eighty years or something like that. They

493
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Speaker 1: were going to play basketball this year, But in terms

494
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Speaker 1: of like major athletics, as far as I could tell

495
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: in very brief research, Oregon and Iowa State have not

496
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Speaker 1: cross paths. Yeah, one of the more intriguing games to

497
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Speaker 1: see what you know Breise Hall and that Iowa State

498
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Speaker 1: offense can do against an improved Oregon defense that really

499
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Speaker 1: did a great job against USC. But on the other

500
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Speaker 1: on the flip side of things, Tyler Shuck throwing into

501
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Speaker 1: a confusing, fast, aggressive, successful Iowa State defense that's pretty scary.

502
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Speaker 1: So it would be a fantastic win for Iowa State

503
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Speaker 1: because Oregon's still pretty good and beating you know, one

504
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Speaker 1: of the better programs in college football in the national stage.

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Speaker 1: Would be would be great for the Clones. So this

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Speaker 1: this one's a fun one. Are you getting a PS five?

507
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Speaker 1: By the way, is that something that you've I want

508
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Speaker 1: to get one decided? Yeah, when I can, But I'm not.

509
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Speaker 1: I'm not having much. Fuck, I'll wait till their more

510
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: mass circulation before I you're just gonna get FIFA, Like,

511
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Speaker 1: are you gonna get act other games? Are you just

512
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: upping your feet?

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Speaker 2: Probably I'll probably geta I haven't gotten better at FIFA

514
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: in a good five or six years. I don't know

515
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: if the PlayStation five will make that any more attainable,

516
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Speaker 2: but it's really the only game I play.

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Speaker 1: If, if, and when the NCAA series comes back, I'm

518
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: all in. That's when I'll get a PS five. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm a I'm all in. Yeah, absolutely all right.

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00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: Capital One Orange Bowl Number five A and M a

521
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Speaker 2: seven point favorite, squaring off against number thirteen North Carolina

522
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Speaker 2: play this one in January second along with the Fiesta Bowl,

523
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: I should add, which is played.

524
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Speaker 1: A little earlier in the day.

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Speaker 2: Teams are getting gift suite and a Torno watch. What

526
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Speaker 2: is a Torno watch?

527
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Speaker 1: Let's see. I mean you can get pretty pricey with these. Wow.

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00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: Okay, thousand styles from nearly one hundred brands, offering the

529
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Speaker 2: latest and largest certified pre owned watch collection. Okay, I

530
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Speaker 2: have no idea what this is, but it looks like

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Speaker 2: it's a fancy company and it's always good to get

532
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Speaker 2: a watch.

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Speaker 1: These are nice watches, pre owned watches. I didn't even

534
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: know that was a thing. Yeah, not a big watch

535
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Speaker 1: guy myself. But do you wear a watch at all? No?

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Speaker 2: No, I have an Apple Watch. I wore that for

537
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: a while, but I'm just at home now. No, I

538
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: don't think too.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Torneau is a watch brand. Maybe I

540
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: can be corrected by somebody who knows better. I think

541
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Speaker 1: they're a watch retailer. Okay, so I'm sure it'll be

542
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: like one hundred, one hundred and fifty two hundred dollars

543
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Speaker 1: watch or something like that. It should be nice enough

544
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: making a big Bowl game. I really like Carolina and

545
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: the points here. Why is that? First off, this is

546
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Speaker 1: totally a game where the team was the ball last

547
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: is going to win and seventy Yeah, both of these

548
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: teams have sort of been playing down or a little

549
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: bit up to their opponents in the back half of

550
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Speaker 1: the schedule.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a game that's destined to be a shootout.

552
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: I do think a letdown effect would be totally reasonable

553
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: for A and M. They wanted that playoff spot. They're

554
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: not getting it obviously, playing in the Orange Bowl, which

555
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: is a hell of a consolation prize against a good team,

556
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: but it certainly does not have the same shine as

557
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Speaker 2: playing in Alabama or a Clemson. And on the other side, look,

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Speaker 2: I stand by the fact that Caroline is a really

559
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: good young team. They're flawed, but they've got a dynamite offense,

560
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: and Mac Brown's going to have them up for this game.

561
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of plays did last year

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Speaker 1: against what the owls of Temple.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I go plus the points here, sixty

564
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Speaker 2: eight and a half.

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Speaker 1: I'm inclined to.

566
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Speaker 2: Go over as well in the Orange Bowl. The one

567
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Speaker 2: caveat here, especially with the context of this show and

568
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Speaker 2: our argument over the last show and a half, Caroline,

569
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Speaker 2: that win over Carolina by Notre Dame definitely played into

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame making it in over A and M.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and Florida State, who did the same thing.

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00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, if A and M comes down empties the clip

573
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Speaker 2: to run it up and make a point, that's also

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Speaker 2: a possibility. But I'm gonna go Carolina here because I

575
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Speaker 2: think A and M's gettable through the air.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. A and M got off for their bowl game

577
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Speaker 1: against a pretty good Oklahoma State team last year. Right,

578
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: that was the Texas Bowl, I want to say, and

579
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: so a pretty decent bowl history, Kellen Mond, if I

580
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: remember correctly, ran pretty wild against Oklahoma State. So something

581
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Speaker 1: to worry about if you're a North Carolina fans, certainly

582
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Speaker 1: with some of the quarterbacks who have damaged that Tar

583
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Speaker 1: Hill defense on the ground. As your precious then book

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Speaker 1: did as well. I'm just looking forward to this game.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how a very good A and

586
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Speaker 1: M defense deals with and I know North Carolina has

587
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: at least a couple opt outs at the moment, but

588
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: an offense that's been sensational, so something I'm circling. And

589
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Speaker 1: it's been it's been a minute since Texas A and

590
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Speaker 1: M has been in a New Year's six caliber game, right,

591
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: I think it was the Johnny Manzel So it's what

592
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: twenty twelve season twenty thirteen bowl game. God was it

593
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl that year, which was only a pseudo

594
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: New Year six game? Then maybe I'm misremembering all of

595
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: this against Oklahoma, But yeah, a nice bounce back year

596
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: for TEXTA, A, and M after a rough twenty nineteen

597
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: finishing in a New Year six game. Still good even

598
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: with any sort of lingering animus over the playoff committee.

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Speaker 2: Got a couple games here on our sheet that are

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Speaker 2: going to be over by the time people hear this podcast,

601
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Speaker 2: including the.

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Speaker 1: We also had a whole game happened last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we mentioned app State earlier. Yeah, have State winning

604
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: big over North Texas, but we ran that hell all

605
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: over them. The famous side Hope Tato Bowl between Two

606
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: Lane and Nevada that takes place tonight. Again, we're recording

607
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: this on Tuesday. Won't drop till Wednesday morning, as will

608
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: the Boker a Tone Bowl, which between b YU and UCF,

609
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: which is an interesting matchup.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed Boise. I've been a couple times. I've enjoyed

611
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Speaker 1: my time there. Yeah, Boca Ratone, I've also been to

612
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: Boca and it's what you expect. It's a nice area

613
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: of Florida, but this game. I'm excited for Ty, I'm

614
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: excited for tonight. Is that what you said tonight? Yeah?

615
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: So it's what Dylan Gabriel and you see f taking

616
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: on BYU. Dylan Gabriel's father, Garrett Gabriel, beat BYU when

617
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: the height of BYU football late eighties, early nineties. So

618
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: we got Zach Wilson and Dylan Gabriel just bombing down

619
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Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see celebrating with a

620
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Speaker 1: gift suite appearance.

621
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Speaker 2: We don't want to invalidate this podcast by talking too

622
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Speaker 2: much about a bowl game that's in the past now.

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Speaker 1: Right, So try to react as accurately as possible. Mere

624
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Speaker 1: hours before kickoff the RNL.

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00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: Carriers in New Orleans Bowl. Yeah, Louisiana Attack George Southern.

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00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: Southern is favored. This one's on Wednesday afternoon. No info

627
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: on the gift suite you real here because this is

628
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: a show about honesty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, please, I pay. I went through everywhere.

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00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: I picked Louisiana Tech everywhere, every single spot.

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Speaker 1: You know why, I don't know.

632
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: I thought it said Louisiana. Hmmm, smart, I thought it

633
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: said Louisiana La Tech. I think when five and four

634
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: really shouldn't be in a bowl game. Really like not

635
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: good to a.

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00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: Pretty big step back this year.

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00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, one twelve in the sp plus and I think

638
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: they lose this game going away.

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00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: So give me Southern.

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00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: Okay, let's stay down in the golf region. Montgomery Bowl.

641
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: This one also being played on Wednesday. Memphis minus eight

642
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: against the.

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00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: Owls of a.

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00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: You get a gift suite, a beanie, a backpack, and

645
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: a big game autograph football Dan.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty good.

647
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: Fau FAU. We haven't talked a lot about FAU. Lank

648
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: Kiffin left after last.

649
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: Season, went to Jim Levitt thoughts.

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00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: No, I don't have any deep burning thoughts here other

651
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: than they're fine if they can play.

652
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: Defense and score twenty four points win. I don't think

653
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: that's going to be the case against Memphis because.

654
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: The Tigers, despite the fact that they are not as

655
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: dynamic on offense this year as they have been in

656
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: years past.

657
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: They're still pretty good, still pretty good.

658
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: They're still an above average team, and I think Fau's

659
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: resume pales in comparison. I just don't think they're ready

660
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 2: for a team like a Memphis.

661
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: I think Memphis wins this one pretty handily. Even though

662
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: you decided against Chick fil A for lunch today, I've

663
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: decided to I'm gonna give you a nugget here, ty, Okay.

664
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: Number one red zone defense in the country, FAU leading

665
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: the country and touchdown percentage allowed in the red zone

666
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: twenty six percent, just ahead of Northwestern eight. It's a

667
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: good defense. Yeah, it's good.

668
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: I don't know how much of this game I'll be

669
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: watching though, New Mexico Bowl, this one on Christmas Eve.

670
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: This one also being played in Frisco, Texas, which is

671
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 2: a strange twist. We got Houston minus eleven against Hawaii

672
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: our special prop in the Winter Wonders pick them challenge prop.

673
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: That challenge, whatever you want to call it, is how

674
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: many times are they going to reference or show that

675
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 2: graphic that cites how many miles Hawaii has.

676
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: Traveled this set to play football? Those little dashes with

677
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: like a plane graphic.

678
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: They have had that same animation in the stockpile for

679
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: a good decade and a half. They all with the

680
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: push pins on the map and the dots and the plane.

681
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: It's great. It's always a winner. Got that prop in

682
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: there Christmas Eve? How are you spending Christmas Eve? Not sure,

683
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: not sure yet. It's a weird year. Do you open

684
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: gifts Christmas Eve or Christmas Morning? What's your typically?

685
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: Typically in my family we would do it Christmas Eve.

686
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: We do everything on Christmas Eve. But it's not a

687
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: normal year.

688
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: So special dinner, a prime rib roast, a beyond prime

689
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: rib rosyond. We haven't decided yet, Kate and I have

690
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: not decided yet what we're what we're gonna do a

691
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: couple days out. I know, I know. Do you normally

692
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: make her a nice meal on Christmas Eve? Or she'd

693
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: make you a nice meal some some combination. Normally we

694
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: do the seven fishes up at mommy Ah's. Oh, that's right,

695
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: that's right. You had mentioned that. Okay, but this year

696
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure as hell not cooking seven fishes for two people.

697
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: Mm hm and uh. I'm open to suggestions. That's til

698
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: I'm ready to tie you ready, please, you're gonna make

699
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: the seven fish tacos. You're gonna make seven fish tacos.

700
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: Maybe you have three, she has four, maybe you each

701
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: have two, and you save some of the seven fish tacos.

702
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: It gets the job done, and it's not a ton

703
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: of food, not too heavy, and the spirit is still

704
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: there and it's Tacos, which is very own brand for you.

705
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: If you can't trust somebody with the last name Rubinstein

706
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: for Christmas advice, that's right, what you're doing, right? Yeah?

707
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: All right?

708
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: Uh No, they get a gift suite, nothing else listed

709
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: for the New Mexico Bowl. Houston an eleven point favorite.

710
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: I think Houston's demonstrably better. Do you have any burning

711
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: thoughts in this game?

712
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: No, I've liked watching Chevon Cordero all year long. I

713
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: hope he plays the Chamella Bowl.

714
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: Buffalo against Marshall to get a gift suite, a beanie,

715
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 2: a backpack, and a big game autograph football.

716
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: Got any thoughts in this one? Uh? Yeah? The Buffalo

717
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: offense has been quite fun. It's an offense versus defense game.

718
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: Certainly Marshall didn't finish the season in any sort of

719
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: meaningful way with their two losses on a bigger stage.

720
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: But oh, I was burping right there, Ty. That's what

721
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: you do when you get older, You just burp right

722
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: through it. No, this is an attractive game to me,

723
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: sort of a mid day what one thirty Central time,

724
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: two thirty Eastern. Yeah, I'm probably gonna watch a good

725
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: chunk of this game. Gift sweed beanie backpack, big game

726
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: autograph football.

727
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: On Christmas, on Christmas, Christmas. Yeah, I'm going Marshall. I'm

728
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: going Marshall. Their defense is really good. I think Buffalo's

729
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: season was a bit of a mirage. I do really

730
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 2: I love Landslide pulled, but this is a really good example.

731
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: If I ain't played, nobody to give me Marshall. Okay,

732
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: Christmas four and a half point dog in this game. Okay,

733
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: the Union Home mortgage gasp, berea bull Now this is gasp.

734
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is confusing to me. For the long Marshall

735
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: lost this game last year they did UCF. Yeah, for the.

736
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: Longest time, I thought Gaspot Priya was the sponsor of

737
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: the Bowl and not that it was the name of

738
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: the boll in like Chamella Bowl fashion.

739
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: Right, It's likely going to be canceled, by the way,

740
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: because South Carolina can't play. Yeah, to be clear, to

741
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: be clear, let's not waste too many words on Let's

742
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: not spill too many too much ink.

743
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: As they say, it's supposed to be between uab u

744
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: ab and South Carolina. South Carolina went too and eight

745
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: and fired their coach this year.

746
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: Dan m hm.

747
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure how I feel about them playing

748
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: in a bowl. To begin with, I would be inclined

749
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: to go uab by whatever lay the points. I might

750
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: win it by three touchdowns if they play it. But again,

751
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: if is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, it

752
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: does not look like the Gasparea Bowl is going to happen.

753
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: No, that's too bad.

754
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: The fb C Mortgage Cure Bowl Coastal Carolina minus seven

755
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: against Liberty. Play this one on Boxing Day day after Christmas.

756
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: Earlier in the day, get a gift suite, a dry

757
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: fit shirt, a canteen, and a Sasquatch party bag.

758
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: Can you look that up? Can you tell me what

759
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: that is? Sasquatch party bag? What is a Sasquatch party bag?

760
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: A skascotchy ba ba bah. It's a must have item

761
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: that does it all ideal for summer outdoor sports, hiking, camping, rafting,

762
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: water sports.

763
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

764
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: I think it keeps stuff dry, okay, as far as

765
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: I can tell, like a canvas bag of some kind.

766
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, looks pretty good. This is a good matchup.

767
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: This is a good matchup. It's a coastal Swan song.

768
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: I saw their coach was talking at halftime or during

769
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 2: the third quarter of the app State game of the

770
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: bowl game because they played that one down at Coastal's

771
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: home stadium. Mm hm, and he's excited about the matchup.

772
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Liberty canceled this matchup earlier on

773
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: in the season, so I can understand the excit. It's

774
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: good that they get to play it.

775
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: Far be it from me at this point to bet

776
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: against the Shans seven points seven points here.

777
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: They got a lot to play for. Yeah, absolutely, And

778
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: it's not like they're ending with a you know, a

779
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: mid level ACC team or Big twelve team like there is.

780
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: There's a certain amount of pride with Liberty being one

781
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: of the absolute better you know. I mean they're independent

782
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: but G five level schools. So yeah, I think there's

783
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: they're gonna be up for this game to finish out

784
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: that season undefeated and claim that national championship.

785
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: Two other games quickly on some of the twenty sixth

786
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: the Serve Pro First Responder Bowl. You may recall this

787
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: one from was it a year or two ago and

788
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: it got canceled midway through or very early on.

789
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: Like the first Oh right, Boise Boston College Serve Pro

790
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: First Responder Bowl between Louisiana and UTSA.

791
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: And at the same time it's the Lending Tree Bowl

792
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: between Western Kentucky and Georgia State. The gift package here

793
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: for both of these games is something that I want

794
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: to discuss.

795
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: I'm ready.

796
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: So on the Serve Pro side, you get the gift suite,

797
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: you get the football, you get the apparel item. You

798
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: also get the Anchor phone charger.

799
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: Is that how you pronounce it? It's not anchor. I think

800
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: it may be anchor, but anchor makes me sound more

801
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: sum I love anchor, Like that was a penpal you

802
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: had in Hamburg right when you were in fifth grade.

803
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: New letter from Anchor.

804
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: Continue, how do you feel if you were a top

805
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: flight recruit going a bowl game you get the phone charger.

806
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: I think that's a good gift. I mean it's a

807
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: good gift for current dan it is a good gift.

808
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean everybody should have one of these. I think

809
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: it's crucial. But you know, it doesn't really get you going,

810
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: like a PS five does.

811
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: I just feel like, if you're going to a bowl game,

812
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: if you get any use out of the free gifts

813
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: that you get, that's a bonus.

814
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: And the phone charger. You're going to use.

815
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: You're gonna use a phone charger, So I don't think

816
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed with that does not have the heights of

817
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: the Lending Tree Bowl, which I'm going to talk about here,

818
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: But it's it's utility.

819
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: It's got utility. Yeah, absolutely, utility. Good gift, good gift

820
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: to give receive if you're looking for a stocking stuffer.

821
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: Not necessarily this brand, but I've got a couple of

822
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: this brand. They seem good. On the flip side of this, Dan,

823
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm a Lending Tree Bowl. I want to talk about.

824
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 2: This topper thoughts gift suite Maui Jim sunglasses, a Nixon Watch,

825
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 2: wireless earbuds, and a Hudson Coal Duffel bag.

826
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking up Hudson Cole now, is that Kenneth Cole's brother.

827
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. Hudson Cole Duffel bag.

828
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 2: Maui Jim has played in the Bowl space before. We're

829
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: familiar with his work. I don't know if I've seen

830
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: a Nixon Watch wireless earbuds as well. They don't list

831
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: the brand name here, but we know that wireless earbuds.

832
00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: Have changed our lives.

833
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 2: Dan, absolutely the Duffel Bag feels like this could put

834
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: this one over the top here and maybe be a

835
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: very underrated bullswag package.

836
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: Good looking Duffel based in Brooklyn, about one hundred and

837
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: fifty bucks, is what it says on their website.

838
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 2: Now, is it like an army Duffel bag like you

839
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 2: take with you into battle or is it?

840
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: What? What does this look like? Describe it? You got

841
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: to you got a long weekend trip to the Poconos

842
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: tie Okay, you don't know what the weather's going to be,

843
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: so you've got, you know, light outerwear and some some chinos,

844
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: maybe a pair of sandals for lounging. You put it

845
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: in one of these, You're good to go. Okay.

846
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: Two games on the twenty ninth, not a sponsor, not

847
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 2: a spoer, Hudson as I walk you through an ideal,

848
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: lovely weekend with a Duffel bag. Two games in the

849
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: twenty ninth, the Valero Almo Bowl between Texas and Colorado

850
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: and the Cheese It Bowl in all its pageantry, Miami

851
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 2: against Oklahoma State. Texas favored by ten and a half.

852
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: I did not see who's favored in the Miami Oklahoma

853
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: State game. I'll pull that one up.

854
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: Some Big Twelve history here, Tye, between Texas and Colorado.

855
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: You've got Colorado beating Texas the edge of mount in

856
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: two thousand and one in the Big twelve Championship game

857
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: after Colorado laid waste to Nebraska. Who's still somehow made

858
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: the national championship game the ultimate twist. I'm want to

859
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: say it's a Chris Brown Chris Simms matchup from two

860
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: thousand and one, and then in two thousand and five,

861
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: the Vince youngyear, Texas ended up facing Colorado in the

862
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: Big Twelve Championship game seventy to three, seventy to three,

863
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: and as our resident being blown out in a conference

864
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: championship game, tie, what do you think Colorado players were

865
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: going through? They're losing seventy to three, five hundred and

866
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars Amazon gift card. That's a lot. You could

867
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: do a lot with Pacific. Yeah, do a lot of

868
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: damage with that mini helmet team Panoramic photo. All right,

869
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: that's very solid. Some puffy tacos here here's definitely not

870
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: a sponsor. I hope this place is open. I'm checking

871
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: right now. If you end up going to the Alamobile,

872
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: which is normally let's see two Yeah, two m Smokehouse.

873
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: It's a From everything I've heard from people who have

874
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: been to everything I've watched, it looks like an amazing

875
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: barbecue place with a Mexican influence in San Antonio. That's

876
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: where I would go if you're heading to San Antono.

877
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: Is is Texas motivated for this game?

878
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: Oh? Texas care Their head coach needed a vote of confidence.

879
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: Colorado might be okay, might be a little bit inflated

880
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: record wise and bowl wise. Texas got up for this

881
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: game last year against Utah their bowl game. Yeah, I'm

882
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: gonna say so. Yeah, I seem to finish the year

883
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 1: on a strong note.

884
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: I think I'm with you. Colorado's a really good story,

885
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 2: really good story. Sure, sort of cant out of nowhere.

886
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: Had coaching issues right with Mel Tucker leaving very early

887
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: on or late, I guess in the process at the

888
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: start of twenty twenty. You bring in Carl Durrell. No

889
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: one knew what to expect, and there was a shot

890
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: there for a little bit that they'd go undefeated in

891
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: conference and they're limited conference slate.

892
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: So they're a good story.

893
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: Texas I think is a top twenty team and They're

894
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: not without flaws, and we may argue both on and

895
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: offline about whether or not we think sam Ellnger is good.

896
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: But Texas is a top twenty team. I think they're

897
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: motivated here.

898
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: Ten and a half. I will lay the ten and

899
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: a half. I feel good about Texas in this game. Same.

900
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,959
Speaker 1: I mean, they've had opt outs, but yeah, I feel

901
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: good about Texas. Why not on the cheese at bull side?

902
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 2: Oklahoma States favored by two over Miami favored by two.

903
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Miami just lost their star defensive ends, finished the

904
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: season with a bit of a whimper. Oh hell yeah.

905
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: I think it is going to be an ugie game.

906
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: This is an ugly game. This is two teams that

907
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: want the season to be over with. Miami as a

908
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: program has a recent history of just evaporating right before

909
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: a ball. Back it up, pack it in right. Yeah,

910
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: they do have that history that worries me a little bit.

911
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: But you know, different year, different squad, but still worrisome.

912
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to Oklahoma State. Gimme give me Oaki State.

913
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: That was Amazon gift card watch backpack. Pretty solid. Jees

914
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: A Bowl.

915
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 2: December thirtieth, Duke's Mayo Bowl between Wisconsin and Wake Forest,

916
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: and then we've got the trans perfect Music City Bowl

917
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: between Iowa and the Zoo. At least as of now,

918
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: we don't know what's going to happen with maybe with Iowa,

919
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: but let's start with the Mayo Bowl.

920
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: Duke's Mayo Bowl. Yeah, Wisconsin a six and a half

921
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: point favorite. That can't be all right, six and a half.

922
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 2: I guess you're giving me six and a half points

923
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: and Wake Forest. I think Wake will be fired up

924
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: for that game. I don't know where Wisconsin's at. They've

925
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 2: kind of been a mess the last few weeks. I'm

926
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: going Wake plus whatever.

927
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't have strong thoughts. I'm not

928
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: going to pretend to.

929
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: Music City Bowl. We can talk about this one. I

930
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: guess for now, Iowa's a fourteen point favorite. And my

931
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: only comment here would be that Iowa has been among

932
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: the most predictable and reliable teams down the stretch. So

933
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: I like Miszoo, I like the story. I think they've

934
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 2: certainly played well in year one under Eli Drinkwitz. But

935
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: Iowa's been steady Eddie. So I go Iowa here?

936
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just hope it happens.

937
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: Oh, all right, how do we say this company Mercary mrcary,

938
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: I believe. So it says make a little money on

939
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: their website, sell from home, make a little money.

940
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: So I don't. Is this like a Rakhuton? What is this? What?

941
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: I think so poshmark type of thing where you can

942
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: sell stuff. I think I've seen commercials for this company. Yeah,

943
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: it's I think it's something like that. Yeah, that's what

944
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: it appears to be.

945
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: The Mercari Texas Bowl between Arkansas and TCU. Okay, they

946
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 2: played a few years ago.

947
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: They had a home and home. They did run. They

948
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 1: did the AutoZone Liberty Bowl.

949
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: Get in the zone with now Army and West Virginia

950
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: Army getting into a bowl game, and the Arizona Bowl,

951
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: which again in a little bit of question given what's

952
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: going on with San Jose State, but they're set to

953
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 2: square off against Ball.

954
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: State, which would be a really fun matchup two teams.

955
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: That won their conferences. Yeah, if it happens.

956
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, Liberty Bowl. I'm glad Army got into a bowl game,

957
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: even though it was at the expense of not the

958
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: expense of but it was you know, it happened because

959
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: of Tennessee's issues. But nine and two Army was in

960
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: bowl limbo and so good that they got to that

961
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: they get to play a team like West Virginia. Bass

962
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: Pro shops gift card. Okay, they sell a lot of things.

963
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: Anybody can find something at basketball shops. Phillip soundbar, bluetooth

964
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: speaker for me, I can find youth for that, Nike shoes,

965
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: sports sandals, sunglasses, and backpack and a commembative football. Maybe

966
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: it's some Memphis barbecue in the process. That's good. Getting

967
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: the zone, baby, yeah, in the zone. And then the

968
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: Arizona Bowl is a worst of all, a good game,

969
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: but also bb tech bluetooth waterproof speaker and wireless earbuds. Okay,

970
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: Little Lemon new Crew backpack. It feels like a premium

971
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: backpack experience. That's good. And a Hudson cole not Duffel bag,

972
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: but stainless steel cooozy set all right. I don't know

973
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: if I've ever seen a stainless steel coozy. I used

974
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: to like the coozies made a fix that like a

975
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: vacuum sealed coozie type of stainless Oh, that could be

976
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: stainless steal couzy. I think you put in I actually

977
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: have seen these. I think you put in your bottle

978
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: of beer into Yeah, I have one that minute that

979
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: keeps it cold. Okay, yeah, okay, I take it back.

980
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: I have seen these.

981
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 2: Uh okay, no burning thoughts for me, but I'll go Arkansas,

982
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: West Virginia and San Jose State.

983
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: Mm. Same same.

984
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,479
Speaker 2: Also on New Year's Eve, Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl

985
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: Tulsa minus two and a half against Mississippi State. They

986
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: get a gift suite in an Encore phone charger, a football,

987
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: and an apparel item weirdly looking like a defensive struggle

988
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: here looking like a defensive struggle. Yeah, but I'll go

989
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: Mississippi State.

990
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: Why not? I think I just saw Mike Leech called

991
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty joyless joyless heading into the bowl season. But

992
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: that might be the most accurate thing he's ever seen.

993
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, defensive struggle was at least something, And it

994
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: feels like one of those games that gets very strange

995
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. That brings us to New Year's Day.

996
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: We've got the Outback Bowl between Indiana and Ole, miss

997
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: No details available on the gift suite. The VRBO Citrus

998
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: Bowl between Northwestern and Auburn. They get a gift suite

999
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: of four hundred dollars Amazon gift card to watch in

1000
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 2: a backpack. And then we got the two playoff games,

1001
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: which maybe we can close out the show talking about.

1002
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: I'll also mention that on January second, we've got the

1003
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: tax Slayer Gator Bowl between NC State and Kentucky. Kentucky

1004
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 2: favored by two and a half, they get a gift

1005
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: suite JBL noise canceling headphones and a Bluetooth speaker inside

1006
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: of a customized box. Hell yeah, Mawi Jim getting in

1007
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: on the action with some sun glasses.

1008
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: The Fossil Watch.

1009
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: Fossil not as active this bull circuit correct, but getting

1010
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: in in a big way here in the tax Layer

1011
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: Gator Bull.

1012
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: I'd love to get this gift situation here if I'm

1013
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: a if I'm a wolf pack member or wildcat and

1014
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: a backpack. So any thoughts on any of those games?

1015
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: It's three games, Uh, Kentucky's Kentucky struggled. I think I

1016
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: like nc stayed a little bit here, finishing their season

1017
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: with a bang Indiana riding. Even though the firepower on

1018
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: offense got a lot of the attention, that defense was

1019
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: very much improved this year with Caane God. They loose

1020
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 1: their their defensive coordinator to South Alabama the who Jaguars

1021
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: head coach Kane Womack, So I think he's sticking with

1022
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: Indiana for now. Indiana, certainly, I saw some administration members

1023
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: putting out a statement about how disappointed they are that

1024
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: they didn't make a New Year six game, but all

1025
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: the same should be entertaining Indiana Ole miss Tom Allen

1026
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin great cool. I think that those are all

1027
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: my thoughts on the Outback Bowl and then Northwestern Auburn January. First,

1028
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 1: I can't imagine Auburn wants any part of this football game,

1029
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: so I assume who's the interim? Is it Kevin Steele?

1030
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: I believe it is. That didn't go well last time

1031
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: he coached a team I know, But could he Bill

1032
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: Stewart this thing? Does he run a Bill Stewart this thing?

1033
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: So these two teams met in the twenty I believe

1034
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: twenty ten Outback Bowl. We're talking Cody Burns, Mikey Kofka,

1035
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: and a tight Auburn win. Same kicker who kicked the

1036
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: game winner against Oregon the following year kick game winner

1037
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: in this game. So there is history. And I also

1038
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: feel like either Northwestern or Iowa plays Auburn or something

1039
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: every random as every single year again this season. Yeah

1040
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: so cool? Uh yeah, it seems like a good enough

1041
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, four hundred bucks Amazon. You can find some

1042
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: things there watching backpack, right, I go Northwestern, I go

1043
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: NC State, and I'm going Old Miss. I'm going I'm

1044
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: on Indiana, l e O Northwestern and the i C

1045
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: State once again.

1046
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: Then that brings us to our two playoff games before

1047
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 2: we close it out. Got the Rose Bowl game played

1048
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: in Arlington. This features a gift suite, fossil watch, Augio backpack,

1049
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 2: new era nine to fifty snap back adjustable hat. Of course,

1050
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 2: it's Notre Dame and Alabama. And then we get the

1051
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 2: All Stage Sugar Bowl later on in the evening, Ohio

1052
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: State Clemson in the Superdome. It is gift suite, a

1053
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 2: new era hat, a Diesel watch, and a mini helmet.

1054
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: Have you given any early thoughts to either of these games?

1055
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 2: I know you hate Notre Dame most people. To me,

1056
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 2: most people hate Notre Dame.

1057
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: It's fine. What about Ohio State Clemson? I think I

1058
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: like Clemson a lot. Yeah, I think I do. And

1059
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that Ohio State roster wise isn't a lot

1060
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: better place than they were against Michigan State and Northwestern.

1061
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: And I know they changed up the rules a little bit.

1062
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: They changed twenty one to seventeen days. So it sounds

1063
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: like Ohio State's going to have a number of guys back.

1064
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: So that's good. We all want full strength for all

1065
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: of these games if possible, especially these bigger games. But

1066
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: I think I like Clemson, you know, comfortably more than

1067
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: Ohio State right now. Ohio State's taking a pretty big

1068
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: step back on defense this year. Clemson's kind of built

1069
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: to take advantage. They seem to be peaking the right time.

1070
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I just like the Tigers.

1071
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: Here. I am waiting personally for the line to come

1072
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: down from seven and a half to seven and then

1073
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to put everything in my betting account on Clemson.

1074
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: The hook.

1075
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: The hook scares me a little bit here, yeah, I

1076
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: know a little bit. But beyond that, I really like Clemson.

1077
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,479
Speaker 2: And maybe there's maybe there's some recency bias here with

1078
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: what Clemson did to Notre Dame and frankly, what Ohio

1079
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: State didn't do against Northwestern.

1080
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I gain they were down forty seven players

1081
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: or whatever it was. I understand that.

1082
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I want to try to not steer too

1083
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: too much into how I'm feeling there.

1084
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: But I just I think Clemson's a much better team

1085
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: much the word much, we say much better. Like I

1086
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: don't know, it's justin field. Still, where's the scarlet and gray? Right?

1087
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: He does wear the scarlet and gray? The running backs

1088
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: went for three hundred against a good defense. It's a

1089
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: very good Ohio State team. Don't get me wrong. I

1090
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: just think Clemson's better. I think Clemson's much better. So

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00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm inclined to go Clemson. Here, Rose Bowl, hose Ball,

1092
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: Texas Gift Suite, Fossil watch as your backpack yep, new

1093
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: era nine to fifty snapback adjustable hat seems good. Bama

1094
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: favored by nineteen and a half. So it's coming down.

1095
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: You told me twenty and a half on Sunday.

1096
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: It opened around seventeen, when up to twenty and a

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00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: half came down to nineteen and a half.

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00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: Money's pouring in, Irish money pouring in. Where would you

1099
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: bet in this game? And don't give me the like

1100
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: I always bet against Notre Dame, I would bet Alabama. Okay,

1101
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: if I were betting because.

1102
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't have much confidence that Notre Dame is going

1103
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: to be able to go toe to toe and score

1104
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: with Alabama, because that's the thing. So often when we've

1105
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: talked about Bama, it's been in the context of who's

1106
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: going to score on that defense.

1107
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: I think you can score on the defense. This year.

1108
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: Florida just showed that you can score on this defense.

1109
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: Ole Miss showed you could score on this defense. It's

1110
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: not impenetrable. I'm we're inclined to go minus the number

1111
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: because of the Bama offense, then I would be in

1112
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: previous years because of the defense. I just I don't

1113
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: see Notre Dame scoring with the Crimson Tide. That's why

1114
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: I delay the number here.

1115
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: Notre Dame after the Clemson game is seventy ninth nationally

1116
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: in terms of explosive pass plays allowed. No, I mean offense.

1117
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what the whole thing's predicated on, isn't it. Yeah,

1118
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: that long pass so that that's worrisome. That's worrisome, and

1119
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if Notre Dame's got the

1120
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: personnel to guard against it. My point all along has

1121
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 2: been that I don't think anybody's got the personnel to

1122
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 2: guard against it.

1123
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: Nobody. That's why you've got to win a game fifty

1124
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: two to whatever, forty six against Florida.

1125
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 2: If you want to beat a team like a Clemson

1126
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: or in Alabama, I don't think Notre Dame's got it

1127
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: in them.

1128
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: Now.

1129
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 2: That being said, they want an over time game earlier

1130
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 2: this year, which you conveniently forget about. It's so important

1131
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 2: tie forty seven, we must, we must put weight on

1132
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: that game over the number two team in the country now,

1133
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 2: the current team in the country. Yeah, so we did

1134
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 2: have to go to extra football in order to get

1135
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: to forty seven points. But I just I don't see

1136
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 2: it happening here. I don't see Notre Dame going into

1137
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: a shootout and beating Alabama.

1138
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: If if I gave you an over under, I don't

1139
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: know what the number is. I'm sure there is somewhere

1140
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: you can find this Notre Dame's total point total in

1141
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: this game. Yep. If I said twenty two and a half,

1142
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: where are you going, I'd probably go over Okay. Yeah,

1143
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: so you think maybe something like in a forty nine

1144
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: to twenty eight kind of fashion, something like that, Okay,

1145
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: I worry about a game like we just saw. I

1146
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: worry about.

1147
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: A really quick start for Alabama and the rest of

1148
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: it is just kind of on cruise control. And look,

1149
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: we've seen a bunch of games like that now in

1150
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 2: the playoff, seen a bunch of games like that in

1151
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: the short history of the playoff where these semi finals

1152
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: are blowout and.

1153
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: I worry about that.

1154
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: Look, could we could spin our yarns about Notre Dame

1155
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: and where they're at in the pecking order, what the

1156
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 2: loss to Clemson means within the context of this season

1157
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: and the broader context of the Brian Kelly era. They're

1158
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 2: just a really good team to me, let me, let

1159
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 2: me say and that's fine, but let me say this.

1160
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: Let me bring this thing full circle. Fall circle, baby,

1161
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: it is. It is very rare that you get drilled

1162
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: in a conference championship game, or any big game for

1163
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 2: that matter, the way Notre Dame did, and you get

1164
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: a chance in the very next game to potentially redeem

1165
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: yourself when you zoom out and look.

1166
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: At where Notre Dame's been in the Brian Kelly era.

1167
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: The knock on Kelly that he hasn't been able to

1168
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: win the big one, right now, say what you want

1169
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 2: about the Clemson game earlier in the year, whether or

1170
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 2: not it's valid or not, they still did win that game.

1171
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 2: It was a big game at the time. It's still

1172
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: a nice win for Notre Dame. It got him in

1173
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: the playoff. If they get blown out in consecutive games

1174
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 2: to Clemson and Alabama, I'm real curious to see what

1175
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: the reaction is about the Notre Dame community.

1176
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1177
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: I haven't found anybody in Notre Dame world that thinks

1178
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 2: that Notre Dame's winning this game against Alabama. But to

1179
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: get embarrassed potentially two games in a row against the

1180
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 2: top two teams in the country would be a really

1181
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: tough pill to swallow for Notre Dame fans, for Brian Kelly,

1182
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 2: it would definitely set things back a little bit just

1183
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: in terms of perception.

1184
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: But there's also no expectation. As you mentioned, there's zero expectations,

1185
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: so there's it's hard to be disappointed if you're not

1186
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: expecting to hang with and or beat Alabama going in

1187
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: as a nearly three touchdown dog. I think in twenty twelve,

1188
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: I think by kickoff time, Notre Dame fans were like, look,

1189
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: we've got this defense, We've got Bob Diaco and his

1190
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: beautiful flowing hair and a Heisman finalist and Antiteo that

1191
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: was the year he was a finalist, right yep. We

1192
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: keep winning games. We just wean it's not always pretty,

1193
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: but we keep winning. We have Mike Golick junior up front.

1194
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: He was on that team, right yep, yep. I think

1195
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: people that talk themselves into that defense keeping him in

1196
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: that game, and then Eddie Lacy pulled on an Alabama jersey.

1197
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: But I think since then, I don't know. I think

1198
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: with every successive loss, I think Notre Dame fans are

1199
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: more realistic, as crazy as that might sound, because Notre

1200
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: Dame fans, like basically everybody else, can be unrealistic when

1201
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: the lights get bright. But I think Notre Dame fans

1202
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: going into this game, no, I had a really good year,

1203
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: and we know what the worst can look like, and

1204
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: we know that Alabama's better than the team probably or

1205
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, has had a better season than the team

1206
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: that just drilled us. So this is just me guessing,

1207
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: total guess. I could not be obviously further away from

1208
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame community. I think they just want to

1209
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: They just want to show up, right, You just you

1210
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 1: want to you want to look pretty good. You want

1211
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: to not get embarrassed once again. I just think that

1212
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: another embarrassment would be so difficult to get over. So

1213
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: what do you go a to Urban Meyer. You think

1214
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: that's like the school? He'll say, s too. No, okay,

1215
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: so what do you mean.

1216
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 2: I'm not proposing that a coaching change or anything like

1217
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 2: that should happen.

1218
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that.

1219
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 2: I just think I don't care how realistic your fan

1220
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 2: base is. You get embarrassed two weeks in a row

1221
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: to the top two teams in the country. After the

1222
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: whole goal of this era, the slow drumbeat of Notre

1223
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: Dame football to continue to get better, has been to

1224
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: get into games like this and perform admirably. If they

1225
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: fall short again, they did it once earlier in the year.

1226
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: Say what you want about that game. They did do

1227
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: it once. If they do it two times in a

1228
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 2: row now where they get embarrassed, that's that's just so difficult.

1229
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,919
Speaker 1: So what do you do do You just do nothing

1230
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: and hope that the kid from San Diego's good. I

1231
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know.

1232
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 2: What you do I think it's part of where we're

1233
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 2: at with college football. It's a larger discussion about competitive

1234
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 2: balance and playoffs, and well.

1235
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: You're hiring a new defensive coordinator, right.

1236
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 2: Hiring a new defensive coordinator. Defense is not going a

1237
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 2: problem this year? Well it was last week.

1238
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: It was last week.

1239
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 2: But the problem last week was that they went up

1240
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: against Clemson at full strength, and the problem on January

1241
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 2: first is going to be going up against Alabama full strength.

1242
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you can do anything that's been that's

1243
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 2: been part of what's driven the rest of college football crazy.

1244
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: Not much you can do when you're trying to compete

1245
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 2: against these guys.

1246
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: So then my question is, I mean, this is probably

1247
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: a different answer for you and for the you know,

1248
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: there's no one unifying thought but to you, and what

1249
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: sense do you get of the Notre Dame fan base

1250
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: as a whole, even though it's not a homogeneous group.

1251
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: What's the measuring stick? Is the measuring stick North Carolina

1252
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: gotta be better at North Carolina? Or is the measuring

1253
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: stick Alabama Clemson? The measuring sticks Alabama Clemson?

1254
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I don't think anyone comes away from a

1255
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 2: potential embarrassment against Alabama and says, well, it was Alabama,

1256
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: and I.

1257
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: Know they gave it their best.

1258
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think, if anything, I think it

1259
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 2: stirs up a lot of the same emotion that we've

1260
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 2: seen throughout the entire Brian Kelly era. We hear even

1261
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 2: more about him not being able to win the Big One,

1262
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: even though they did beat Clemson, but this is obviously

1263
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: a bigger stage where it counts a little bit more.

1264
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: We would continue to hear that kind of stuff, and

1265
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 2: it's play Brian Kelly the entire time he's been there.

1266
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 2: It would continue to play him even despite the fact

1267
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 2: that they had a really good season.

1268
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you're also asking Tommy Reese to outduel Brent

1269
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: Venables and Nick Saban a little bit of tough nice

1270
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: to a gunfight. Yeah, it is a tough ask. Nothing

1271
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: appreciable changes with Notre Dame if they lose thirty seven

1272
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: to three. I don't think so. Okay, No, I don't

1273
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: think so. All right, Hey, I hope it's a good game.

1274
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: I like good football games. I'm tired of blowouts. I

1275
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: know Chris Shower is watching his Instagram, He's tired of

1276
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: plot Yeah, he's tired of stretching during games. I'm like, okay,

1277
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: got to talk about somebody's high school teammate here, got

1278
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: to talk about a pet situation.

1279
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well, TV Bold season is fast approaching. We

1280
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 2: are going to have a show that drops on Christmas Day,

1281
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 2: so do stay tuned for that. I think we're going

1282
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 2: to talk a little dannalytics. Is that the plan?

1283
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, we are to improve teams, tams who regressed offenses. Defenses. Yeah,

1284
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: we'll talk about some context, talk some context on the

1285
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: show that's going to drop on Christmas Day.

1286
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: But look again, wherever this podcast may find you, we

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