1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Let's catch up with a guy whose team they lost 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: for a third time this year to Penn State, but 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: outside of that, they were awesome in Big Ten play, 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: and there's the possibility of facing off with Gonzaga team. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: We talked to mar Few last week and he's like, man, 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: the job, Chris Holdman, because they Gonzaga beat the pants 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: off him earlier this year in Portland and that was 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: before kind of the turnaround. Chris Holtman is the first 9 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: year head coach at Ohio State. Of course, he was 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: Butler's head coach last year. Last couple of years, he 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: joins us in the Doug Otlan Show. Coach, how are you? 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm great, great, great to be with you, man, I 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: hear you. M okay. So John Calipari's complaining about his 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: five seed? Would you like to complain about your five seeds? No, 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, I I'm not going to complain about anything. 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm you know, we're in this thing and no one, 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: no one would have thought we'd been being in at 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. What you were saying, I 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: completely agree with. I mean I completely You can tell 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: obviously you've watched and been part of the sin for 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: a while I think, Um, a lot of it is matchups. Uh, 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: it's really hard to get in to get into this thing, 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: less than or just over teams get in it. There's 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: less than eleven of at large verse of all Division 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: one teams. So you know, we're glad to be in it. 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: It's hard, it's hard to advance. Um, we need to 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: play well on Thursday. Let let me ask you as 28 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: a guy who's coach at a lower level coach at 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: Guarden Webb. Obviously, UM, I'm torn on this right, the tournament, 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: part of the part of the field, the good feel 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: good feelings of the tournament is that David taken down 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: the Goliathe Now that actually hasn't gone away as much 33 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: as people like me would let you think. Because Butler 34 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: is no longer in the Horizon. It's still Butlers. They're 35 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: just not in the Horizon League anymore. It's still Whichita State. 36 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: They're just no longer in the valley. It's still Crating, 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: They're just no longer in the valley. Right, the these 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: these these former Xaviers not in a ten school. They're 39 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: now a Big East champion. So what used to be 40 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: the mid major and the team that you didn't pay 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: attention too much now, you know, because they're in the 42 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: bigger conference. But what's your thoughts on the Middle Tennessee's 43 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: of the world, or even of Vermont Um getting left 44 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: out as opposed to teams that finished below the major conferences? 45 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: You know, obviously speaking as a coach that's in that's 46 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: in a major conference, you know, I understand what I 47 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: think most coaches would say, Hey, is the grind can 48 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: be different when you're in a power league and you're 49 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: going against those those teams night after night after night. 50 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: Having said that, uh, you know, I played Middle Tennessee. 51 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: We played Middle Tennessee last year in the tournament after 52 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: they beat Minnesota, and we were fortunate enough to beat him, 53 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: uh while I was at Butler to get to the 54 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: sweet six team. But uh, they were as good as 55 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: a lot of teams honestly in the Big East. They 56 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: really were. Now what their record would have been going 57 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: through the grind of the Big East, I don't know, 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: But I just know that that was a high level 59 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: team that was as good as a lot of team 60 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: UM in our league and certainly teams that it that 61 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: it went to the tournament. You know, I played Vermont 62 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: a couple of years earlier. We scheduled them, which was 63 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: probably a mistake while I was at Butler, and I 64 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: think they are really good, you know, are really good 65 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: Middle Tennessee maybe a you know, maybe a little bit 66 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: ahead of them. But I thought Vermont was really good, 67 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: exceptionally well coached. Um I saw I saw that game 68 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: getting ready for your game last year. I watched that 69 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: that game, and that was kind of one of my take. 70 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: It was like, wow, they're pretty good, the better better 71 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 1: than better than I thought. All right, well, let's let's 72 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: talk about your team. This is a different experience. Obviously, 73 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: this is your first year at Ohio State, but not 74 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: your first n c A tournament. But you lose early 75 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: in the Big Ten tournament and then, unlike any year 76 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: at Butler, I don't, I don't. Yeah, you weren't in 77 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: the horizon ever a Butler. So you're done for the 78 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: last week and a half with no game. How did 79 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: you approach it? Well? You know, the other unique thing, 80 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: Doug was we we played Indian in a on a 81 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: Friday night before the Big Ten. You know, the Big 82 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Ten still had Saturday and Sunday games. So we finished 83 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: the Big Ten regular season a little bit earlier. So 84 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, we were looking at potentially two games in 85 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: twent it's gonna be two games in twenty days. Basically 86 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: what it is, what it's going to be. And you know, 87 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 1: I think as a coach, you're trying to battle rest 88 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: versus rust. I thought we were a little bit tired 89 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. We've you know, we've 90 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: written a couple of guys kta H d Up and 91 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: Jay Shawn Tate quite a bit and I thought they 92 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: were a little fatigued. Um, and I think we had 93 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: a freshman hit the wall a little bit too. So 94 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: we're trying to you know, we're trying to figure that out. 95 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: What we did last week is, you know, we tried 96 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: to get off campus. We went and scrimmaged at a 97 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: Division three inter squad scrimmage at a Division three place, 98 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: just to kind of get a different scenery. We kind 99 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: of caravan there and coaches vehicles and uh forty five 100 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: minute drive and then had had dinner afterwards. We changed 101 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: up our practice times, went in the morning one one day. Um, 102 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: so you know, we we did try to mix it 103 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: up a little bit, but you're you know, that's the 104 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: main thing is you're trying to battle that whole rest 105 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: versus rust, and hopefully we've prepared him well for Thursday, 106 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: you're gonna take on South Dakota State. The jack Rabbits 107 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: are led by a kid named Mike dom the Dominator. 108 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: Who is I mean we watched in the gym. I 109 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: mean he looks like a guy who you think would 110 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: stand udneath the basket and just put his hand up. 111 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: Problem is, you can also shoot it from But he's 112 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: a tremendous, tremendous talent. You guys found out just like 113 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: everybody else at six o'clock last night. How many South 114 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: Dakota State games have you watched? I think I watched 115 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: four this morning and to last night. Um, he's really good, Doug. 116 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, I think I had heard 117 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: a little bit about them, just because you heard, Hey, 118 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: there's an NBA player on their roster, so you watch 119 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: him a little bit throughout the year. But then when 120 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: you really dig into their team, you realize, like he's exceptional. 121 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: I he's a pro, there's no question about it. But 122 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: their team is really good. They they have a lot 123 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: of weapons, their top fifty in the country and offensive 124 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: efficiency and the number one in the country and turnover percentage. 125 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: They don't beat themselves. They can shoot it at multiple positions. 126 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: Their guards are athletic. You know they've beaten Power Conference teams. 127 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: I think when you have an eight point lead at 128 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: at halftime against which stall state, at which state, you're 129 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: you're pretty talented and um got a lot of respect 130 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: for them. We're gonna have to play really well. And 131 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of what you expect when you're 132 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: when you're playing in those four or five, six and 133 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: beyond games. How what's you know? I don't does the 134 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: does the twelve five help you get your team's attention? 135 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: Because having been in those locker rooms as a player, 136 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: I know that every team you play, the coach that 137 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: comes in and like, hey, these guys can smash you. 138 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 1: These guys really good. Then you throw on the table. 139 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: It's like South Dakota State. There's no names in the 140 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 1: back of the jersey. It's it's hard when you're Ohio State, 141 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: no matter no matter how how bad you they were 142 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: last year for kids to real eyes not to those 143 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: day is really good? Can beat you? Been in the 144 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: n c A Tournament. What was their response to the 145 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: matchup well, the unique thing is Doug, I think they 146 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: they have great respect for them. They've also seen a 147 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: lot of people and we get it, a lot of 148 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: people picking them to win the game. I think, you know, 149 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: they've they've heard it and seen it and and that's 150 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: that's normal. I think that's a popular uh, you know, 151 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: twelve five or a popular pick. And they're really good. 152 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: South Dakota State is really good. But you know, the 153 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: unique thing is they've been to the tournament more than 154 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: we have the last few years. You know, we have 155 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: three returning guys that have played in an instable a 156 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: tournament game they have, Um, I think they've been there 157 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: the last two years or three out of the last 158 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: four maybe. Um So, I do think having a little 159 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: bit of an older group that is that um not 160 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: much was expected of. I think they understand. Listen, we 161 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: can go home really early if we don't play well. 162 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: Our attention to detail is going to have to be 163 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: on point. Uh if not able to be a short 164 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: stay in Boisie. Yeah. Um. What about the matchup itself 165 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: in terms of style wise, of course bedicates the uh 166 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: is more your four man that can stretch you. Do 167 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: you match up with with having their five men out 168 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: on the basketball floor. We'll have to look at a 169 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: couple of different matchups both for him and they do 170 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: a lot of They spread you out as you'd expect. 171 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: Their guards can attack the paint. But they have a 172 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: terrific freshman guard. I don't know if you've if you've 173 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: seen him or not done, but he's he's really good. 174 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: Um and I think he's a bona fide high major guard. 175 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: And they've got they've just got a lot of really 176 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: good players, so they'll try to spread us out. I 177 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: think um our ability to kind of communicate and match up, 178 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: but no personnel and uh, get them out of their 179 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: rhythm team and they're great when they get in a rhythm. 180 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: They also played a pretty good pace. I think they're uh, 181 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: they're tempo was number one in their league. Um, they 182 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: play at an exceptional pace and hopefully we're gonna be 183 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: able to make some shots and then uh, you know, 184 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: go to our big guys inside as well. It should 185 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: be a Jenkins is the kid's name, right, he's uh, 186 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: a Washington kid who's the freshman. I think he's there. Secondly, 187 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: he's exactly right. You never lost a first round game. 188 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to jink you. You never lost a 189 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: first round game, is there? Do you have are you superstitious? 190 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: Do you have things that I always do this and 191 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: that's why we never lose, you know? Um, no, I'm 192 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: losing to the conference tournament. That probably helps. Uh. I 193 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: don't know if it gave us a few more days 194 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: to prepare, but well, we'll go through. It's certainly got 195 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: our guys attention to when we were bothering. The one 196 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: thing that I think, you know that I appreciate it 197 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: when I was at Butler is that our guys always 198 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: had great appreciation for whoever we were playing and an 199 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: understanding of what you know, has to take place, possession 200 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: by possession in this thing to advance. And you know 201 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: what's unique, like I said, because we haven't been through 202 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: that experience together as a group here. So I'm anxious 203 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: to see what our guy's responses in the moment Thursday. 204 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: Last thing about the league, Um, A lot of people 205 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: are on Michigan because John Beilein's team has really turned 206 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: around defensively, they were super impressive winning the Big Ten. Uh. 207 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: There's a substantial group of people that are picking Michigan 208 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: State to win the national Championship. Then there's Perdue, who 209 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: they are a really hard team to cover because they 210 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: shoot it so well and they have that bohemouth inside 211 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: in Isaac has Um. If if you were a betting 212 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: man and UH and you can't pick your own team, 213 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: which Big ten team would you most expect to be 214 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: in the final four. I think Michigan is playing the 215 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: best right now, and I thought going into the Big 216 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: Ten tournament, Doug Um I actually said on the bus 217 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: I think headed over there or headed into New York City, 218 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: that I thought Michigan could be a final four team 219 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: after just playing them late in the season and then 220 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: watching them and then it didn't surprise me at all 221 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: them winning the tournament. But as you mentioned earlier, I 222 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: think I heard you say this, it's true, like you 223 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: can be a hot team and you can you can 224 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: get dropped early in this thing. So that doesn't guarantee 225 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: that they're going to be there. But I think they're 226 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: playing as well as anybody. I do think that Michigan 227 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: states the most complete team, and I think Purdue UH 228 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: has a great chance to advance deep as well. It's 229 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: gonna depend on UH matchups, I think to some degree, 230 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: maybe more so uh In in a Purdue game than 231 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: than anything. But I think all three of those teams 232 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: have a great chance to advance deep, I really do. 233 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: Can be fascinating to see if they play your old 234 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: team in Butler in the second round. By the way, 235 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: a couple of things. Okay, you're now the coach at 236 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: Ohio State when you're not supposed to give compliments, and too, 237 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: you're supposed to call them the team from the North. 238 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,599 Speaker 1: See that team up north. I just I don't. I 239 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: don't want to get you in trouble. Like everybody loves 240 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: you there, great season. I don't want them to go 241 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: like here right now, listen, listen, Urvan is giving me 242 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: pointers on that but multiple times. So you're right, I 243 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: gotta stay on point with all that. I know that. 244 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: It's it's really hard to not respect what b line 245 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: does up there. You know, when guys do it and 246 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: do it the right way and the team gets better, 247 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's nothing hard to your cap hey, best 248 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: of luck. Hopefully take down the jack Rabbits and we'll 249 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: talk to you as as you move on to the tournament. 250 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: Thanks man, Great or New York City. Say that's Chris Holtman, 251 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Ohio State University, might get 252 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: a shot at Gonzaga again if they gotta take down 253 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: the jack Rabbits.