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Speaker 1: joined by Jets Special Teams coordinator Brandt Boyer on the
Speaker 1: eve of training camp. It is finally here. How was
Speaker 1: your summer? Summer was awesome. Did a ton of fishing
Speaker 1: and it sat out, sat on the river and I
Speaker 1: think I just was explaining to Youd of thirty days.
Speaker 1: I think I was in my camp or on a
Speaker 1: river and we traveled all over Wyoming and Montana and everything,
Speaker 1: did some fishing. It was great. Did fly fishing You
Speaker 1: take a lot of videos and photos while you're out there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I've got a ton on my phone. So
Speaker 1: it was a great time. Go with a bunch of
Speaker 1: buddies and take my kids out all the time on
Speaker 1: there in Utah and and um. So it was good.
Speaker 1: Called a bunch of fish and seeing a bunch of wildlife.
Speaker 1: And it's like my yoga. My wife calls it all
Speaker 1: the time. Fair enough. So what kind of fish did
Speaker 1: you catch? All trout? All trout? Yeah, so brown's cutthroats, rainbows,
Speaker 1: everything like that. So it was awesome. When know we'd
Speaker 1: spend five or six days at one place, go three
Speaker 1: or four to the next place, and wherever's fishing, good,
Speaker 1: we go. You know. So it was it was it
Speaker 1: was a good time. Are you able to get your
Speaker 1: mind completely away from football during this absolutely, Like that's
Speaker 1: the only time when I can totally separate and and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, rejuven h in, get you back ready for
Speaker 1: the grind that's gonna happen here starting starting today. You know,
Speaker 1: at what point do you start getting at itch where
Speaker 1: like it's getting closer and your body clock for somebody
Speaker 1: like you, you have to there's got to be changes
Speaker 1: that happened. Because he played in the league as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is twenty three years I think in the league,
Speaker 1: so as a player and as a coach, and and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you start thinking about it in that last
Speaker 1: week or two. You know, it's good to get away
Speaker 1: in the first couple of weeks, but then you start
Speaker 1: missing the guys and stopping, you know, start missing being
Speaker 1: on the grass and everything like that. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: while it's good to have a vacation, you know what
Speaker 1: we're here for and we're here to win and try
Speaker 1: to win a super Bowl, and and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I really miss that when when you're off so along,
Speaker 1: you get start getting bored a little bit. And I
Speaker 1: mean it's hard to think that you can get board
Speaker 1: fishing every day. But um, I really enjoy it, like
Speaker 1: really enjoy coaching, being on the grass and getting these
Speaker 1: young kids, you know, trying to get them right and
Speaker 1: working with the kids and and uh, and I think
Speaker 1: that's that's the awesome part of the job. This roster
Speaker 1: has changed a lot since we last talked in this space.
Speaker 1: We were in Mobile, Alabama at the Senior Bowl in January,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people think in terms of offense
Speaker 1: defense rightfully, so, but that's gonna impact your unit, your
Speaker 1: units as well. Yeah, anytime that that there's huge turnover
Speaker 1: and everything like that. We had a really young group
Speaker 1: last year, um, first year in the system. Guys came up,
Speaker 1: came in and did a pretty solid job. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that that I would have
Speaker 1: liked to cleaned up from last year. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's exciting to have all these new kids in and
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, a bunch of new veteran players,
Speaker 1: a bunch of new young guys, and you know, and
Speaker 1: infusing a life so to speak. And I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, you have some really really talented kids. I
Speaker 1: think you have some some grinder guys that that are
Speaker 1: that are that are smart and and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: can learn the system right away and can adjust to
Speaker 1: what we're teaching and from their old systems and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And I think that, you know, I'm really
Speaker 1: looking forward to to getting started with these guys, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. You're all pro kick Returner took to social
Speaker 1: media recently was not happy with his Men strength number
Speaker 1: they gave him fifty three. Yeah, so Braxton put out
Speaker 1: on social media said he basically doesn't mind, but it
Speaker 1: was he had a post with himself benching with the
Speaker 1: shirt off, and you know, Burials is pretty it's pretty jacked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's pretty jacked. What I'll say to that is better
Speaker 1: be underrated than overrated him, right, And so you know,
Speaker 1: I think he's everybody sleeps on him and everything and
Speaker 1: and uh because of a short stature and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: The kid has one hell of a football there and
Speaker 1: does a great job for us. I know that he's
Speaker 1: such a nice dude. He's so well liked inside the
Speaker 1: locker room, and I know you love his approach. Um
Speaker 1: do you see the chip in terms of more so
Speaker 1: on the field than the way he interacts with others. Oh, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I think that. You know, anytime a guy has doubted
Speaker 1: as much as he is and you don't be honest
Speaker 1: with you, I felt like that in my career, and
Speaker 1: and uh, that chip on your shoulder never leaves you
Speaker 1: and and you always have something to prove. And I
Speaker 1: think that's probably what makes him work so hard and
Speaker 1: what makes him great. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: the harder he works and the more he keeps thinking
Speaker 1: about that, the better he's going to be in his career.
Speaker 1: And you've seen him just every year he's gotten better
Speaker 1: and better and better, and and uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't see any reason why he won't continue to do so.
Speaker 1: You know, you're not living in the past. But your
Speaker 1: numbers across the board were so good last year kick return,
Speaker 1: uh um, kick return coverage and punt return of course,
Speaker 1: can you speak to that because by any measurement, you'd
Speaker 1: say you guys were top two in the league and
Speaker 1: each of those categories. Yeah, I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously it's a guy. It's it's all about the guys.
Speaker 1: And and uh, can the guys block in space. Can
Speaker 1: they can they understand what we're trying to get get
Speaker 1: done and and teach them. And the guys did uh
Speaker 1: last year, they did a fantastic job. You know. There's
Speaker 1: got to be some things that we really improve on
Speaker 1: this year. Some things I want to get better. Number one,
Speaker 1: we gotta get rid of the damn penalties. Committed way
Speaker 1: too many penalties last year. Um. But I thought the guys,
Speaker 1: you know, I think our double teams up to the
Speaker 1: safety need to get better. Some of our single work
Speaker 1: needs to get better. Um. But I'm really excited about
Speaker 1: the group that we've got and the guys and they
Speaker 1: really take the coaching and and um, you know, for
Speaker 1: such a young group last year, UM, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: really excited to see where we can go a year
Speaker 1: two and hopefully we can keep um, you know a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys together and um, you know, I
Speaker 1: hopefully we can. How tough is it for you? In
Speaker 1: another opening day? Another new kicker. I know sometimes people
Speaker 1: would just say it's just the name cure of the business,
Speaker 1: but Eddie came on board last year, goes eight for eight.
Speaker 1: And then you had Greg the leg who's Zeroline, who
Speaker 1: has one of the strongest legs in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: We're to see that competition playoff. Yeah, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see how that plays out
Speaker 1: because it was so close in the spring. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: it was neck and neck in the spring, and both
Speaker 1: of them kicked really well, and and um, you know,
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how how those guys doing games.
Speaker 1: Eddie came in, did a great job. Greg's obviously been
Speaker 1: approven talent in this league. Um, they're both great guys.
Speaker 1: Having the locker room, I'd take either one of them
Speaker 1: right now. Um. And they they've they've done a great
Speaker 1: jobs since they've been here and adjusted to the room
Speaker 1: as well. And you know, they've SNCD up really well
Speaker 1: with with Thomas and Bradon and and the operations, you know,
Speaker 1: quick and precise and and that's what we can ask for.
Speaker 1: And we'll see how it plays out during training camp.
Speaker 1: And and you know, what it comes down to is
Speaker 1: who kicks and does well in the games, you know,
Speaker 1: And because I think they're very very similar, and both
Speaker 1: of them approached the game the right way, and both
Speaker 1: of them are very serious and and you know, really
Speaker 1: I think they they think their job is important, obviously,
Speaker 1: and they approach it that way. And and I really
Speaker 1: look forward to that competition for sure. The lines numbers
Speaker 1: over fifty yards fifty to fifty nine yards throughout his
Speaker 1: career really something, Yeah, you're talking about in between. I
Speaker 1: think it's probably around fifty five for his career fifty
Speaker 1: nine and then Panero three for three in his career
Speaker 1: fifty plus. And I think a lot of people thought
Speaker 1: of him in terms of h he played at Florida.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he can play up here in
Speaker 1: the Northeast. He didn't find job for you guys, stop
Speaker 1: of stretch. Yes he did. Like I think what people
Speaker 1: you know obviously don't know about eighties he had. He
Speaker 1: had some injury issues before he came here and and
Speaker 1: maybe he shouldn't even have kicked last year. Um, And
Speaker 1: he sucked it up and did a hell of a
Speaker 1: job for us. Um you know, came in and did
Speaker 1: a great job. And so he uh you know that
Speaker 1: that to me speaks to how important it is, um,
Speaker 1: how how much he cares everything like that. And then
Speaker 1: you've got Greg who's been, like I said, a proven talent,
Speaker 1: um who's had a great career and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome to see these guys go head
Speaker 1: to head during training camp. Yeah, how tough is it
Speaker 1: for you as a coordinator of special teams that there's
Speaker 1: just three games now because you just talked about, Hey,
Speaker 1: practice is important, but for us, we got away what
Speaker 1: you're doing under the light? Right, Yeah, I think you know,
Speaker 1: it makes it hard with three games. You know, you
Speaker 1: used to have five, used to have four, whatever it
Speaker 1: is depending on the year, and and um, you know
Speaker 1: you could see them under the lights, but what you
Speaker 1: see is the big body of work, and you see
Speaker 1: their ball flight, and you see, um, how they adjust
Speaker 1: and how they handle the pressure situations. And that's what
Speaker 1: goes into the you know, when we sit down with
Speaker 1: Sla and Joe and and um, you know, that's the
Speaker 1: decisions that we make as an organization moving forward. How
Speaker 1: how are we going to proceed with that position and
Speaker 1: that any position you know for for that matter. So, um,
Speaker 1: you know that's that's a cool part about the job
Speaker 1: is that you see how these guys compete head to head.
Speaker 1: And if one guy goes out there and bangs of
Speaker 1: four eight yarder and the next guy has a chance
Speaker 1: to hit a fifty. Then then they compete with each
Speaker 1: other all the time, and and they kick the same
Speaker 1: same amount of balls, the same distances, the same hash
Speaker 1: marks everything every day that we kick and so and
Speaker 1: then and then you weigh all those factors in and
Speaker 1: you come up with with who gives you the best
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Speaker 1: having a guy like Brandon man because their lines kickoff
Speaker 1: percentages last year was which is great in terms of touchbacks.
Speaker 1: But you do have Eddie here and then you do
Speaker 1: have a guy like Man who can come in for
Speaker 1: you as well. Yeah, like you know, I was speaking
Speaker 1: on on earlier Eddie's strength coming back this year, coming
Speaker 1: coming off that injury early early last year. Um, his
Speaker 1: strength is way better than it was last year. Um.
Speaker 1: So those guys, all three of those guys, I would
Speaker 1: have no problem starting as the as the starting kickoff guy. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I think they all can kick touchback saying
Speaker 1: all mortar to both sides really well, Um, I think
Speaker 1: that you know, they have a good arsenal on side kicks. Um,
Speaker 1: So I'd have no problem putting any of them out there.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you about del Shan Phillips. He doesn't
Speaker 1: get a lot of the headlines, but he was a
Speaker 1: core guy for you last year. Can you talk what
Speaker 1: he brings the table across the board. I think that
Speaker 1: del Shawn has done one heck of a job. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I think he's he's one of our obviously
Speaker 1: our top linebackers in production and everything like that. Um,
Speaker 1: what he does, he's a he's Basically, he's like a
Speaker 1: silent assassin the guy. You know, he doesn't say much, um,
Speaker 1: but he comes out and he works every day and
Speaker 1: and um, you know, he does a really nice job
Speaker 1: and coverage phases and you know, there's some things I'd
Speaker 1: like to clean up with him, and being another year
Speaker 1: in this system and stuff like that, we can get
Speaker 1: that addressed and everything. But for him to come in
Speaker 1: first year, all these new techniques that he's learning, um,
Speaker 1: take a leadership role in in the room a little
Speaker 1: bit um, you know, and and turn around and do
Speaker 1: what he did last year, I think he's You're going
Speaker 1: to see nothing but improvement from him moving forward, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. I'm not really excited about him. How about
Speaker 1: what you have on the outside. We talked about Justin
Speaker 1: Hardy in the past and his leadership role and everything
Speaker 1: he brings to the table. But I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you about Jeff Smith because he was flashing offensively during
Speaker 1: the spring. He's got a great story, former college quarterback.
Speaker 1: But uh, he's also a guy who I think has
Speaker 1: thrived under your guys. Absolutely, I think Jeff has done
Speaker 1: a great job. You know, you got Hardy out there,
Speaker 1: and then you've got Jeff, and you've got a group
Speaker 1: of guys who are gonna be fighting for those gunner positions.
Speaker 1: And and obviously with Hardy's leadership and and the way
Speaker 1: that he has proven talent and and you know, he
Speaker 1: plays with a dog mentality all the time and gets
Speaker 1: after people and and uh, you know, I think he
Speaker 1: needed a heck of a job last year. Jeff. I
Speaker 1: don't think that you can anybody in this probably in
Speaker 1: this building, would would argue maybe had the best spring
Speaker 1: out of any player that there is. Um you know,
Speaker 1: at least that that I've seen, you know, especially on
Speaker 1: special teams, and the way he works and the way
Speaker 1: he prepares and and he practiced like a man on
Speaker 1: a mission this spring, and I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: there's some bright things that are going to come out
Speaker 1: of that for Jeff. Um, you know, I really think so.
Speaker 1: I think he's got you know, obviously he can run,
Speaker 1: he's got talent um, and he's a worker, and uh,
Speaker 1: I think he had just my own personal opinion, I
Speaker 1: think he had one of the best springs that there is.
Speaker 1: What changes for you and it's a tight end position
Speaker 1: because you you really depended on those guys last year
Speaker 1: West goes still on the roster. We know that, and
Speaker 1: he kind of is a slash fullback. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what we list them as offensively, but I know
Speaker 1: you lean on him a lot. What about some of
Speaker 1: the additions as well. Yeah, I mean we we obviously
Speaker 1: try to get a lot out of our our fullback
Speaker 1: and and tight end positions, you know, because we keep
Speaker 1: five linebackers instead of six. So it really helps to
Speaker 1: have Nick Bowden here and guys like that that are
Speaker 1: tough guys, you know, really really smart guys. And I
Speaker 1: can just their chest pieces and I can put them
Speaker 1: everywhere and and uh conklin um us alma um. You
Speaker 1: know all those guys ya Boa comes in and does
Speaker 1: a great job. So those are guys that I can
Speaker 1: move anywhere and and um they do a great job,
Speaker 1: you know. And they they've adjusted well of the scheme,
Speaker 1: and we'll see how it all fits, you know. I
Speaker 1: think that we've got a lot of work to do
Speaker 1: from here to the season, but the offseas and show
Speaker 1: promise on all those guys. I think that that it'll
Speaker 1: be exciting to see how how they progress. But he's
Speaker 1: a cool cat, a tough customer. Yeah, yeah, former college quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's another former college quarterback. But man, he will get
Speaker 1: after you. Yeah, he will get after you. And and
Speaker 1: you know he's a guy I'd loved to play with
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, we we've got a bunch
Speaker 1: of really really good guys in that room and he's
Speaker 1: one of them. And you know, he stands for everything
Speaker 1: that that that that I like and toughness and and
Speaker 1: you know, study and all the time and and being
Speaker 1: you know, having this this be you know if not
Speaker 1: one you know, other than your family, you know the
Speaker 1: most important thing in your life. And that's what it
Speaker 1: needs to be, uh for for a six month period
Speaker 1: of time during the season, and the focus needs to
Speaker 1: be there and everything. And he's the epitome of of
Speaker 1: that that studies all the time and and prepares and
Speaker 1: works his butt off and lifts weights and watches his
Speaker 1: diet all the time and and and things like that.
Speaker 1: There's a a big group of guys here that we
Speaker 1: have here now that that are that are starting in
Speaker 1: that mold. And I think that you're you're seeing just
Speaker 1: little progressions of how how this is getting better since
Speaker 1: I've been here. Um, and I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it's exciting to see little progressions. What do you see
Speaker 1: from Brandon last year? We talked about him before and
Speaker 1: what's his next step? Is a punner, I think. I
Speaker 1: think you know, obviously that injury setting back a little bit. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, it was very unfortunate. In the first game
Speaker 1: he gets run into and and um, you know, obviously
Speaker 1: we can't have that stuff happen again. But I think
Speaker 1: that you've seen as as the year went on, um,
Speaker 1: you know, when he came back and uh and um,
Speaker 1: I think that by by the game, you could see
Speaker 1: him start to slowly get back into rhythm and slowly
Speaker 1: start making strides and and where I thought he was
Speaker 1: going to be towards the end of the year, I
Speaker 1: thought he kicked really really well. Um and and even
Speaker 1: midway through the year, coming back from an injury like that,
Speaker 1: it's really hard, but but he did a really nice
Speaker 1: job of progressing every week, folks, in every week on
Speaker 1: where he needs to be. I think his hang times
Speaker 1: have gotten better, his directional ability has gotten better. Uh,
Speaker 1: since in this offseason. Um, I think he's you know,
Speaker 1: I think he's got as much talent as anybody in
Speaker 1: this league. I really do that's that's true fact. And
Speaker 1: he can do so many things with on site kicks
Speaker 1: and kickoffs and and you know, I mean, hell, he
Speaker 1: can even long snap, to be honest with you, I
Speaker 1: mean it's crazy, you can tackle, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: he's a really really talented kid. And uh, and I
Speaker 1: think that that he's going to do an outstanding job
Speaker 1: for us this year. I really do. All right, so
Speaker 1: tell us the truth. Well, let's go inside the meeting
Speaker 1: room right now. It's time's time to see you ever
Speaker 1: had a bad snap? According urals, we'll knock on wood. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, not many that I've seen. And he's as consistent,
Speaker 1: um and and as and as professional as you will
Speaker 1: ever find. And guys like that that will play, they'll
Speaker 1: play fifteen years, you know, and if not more. And
Speaker 1: so I think that he's just a pleasure to have
Speaker 1: in the room. He never says boo if unless you
Speaker 1: ask him. And and he's taken off a little more
Speaker 1: of a leadership role, which I've asked him to do
Speaker 1: because he because he never buddy that in their respects
Speaker 1: him and knows how good a player he is. And
Speaker 1: and uh, you know the things that since since we've
Speaker 1: been here together. The things that I've asked him to correct,
Speaker 1: he corrects it right away. There's never any any attitude
Speaker 1: back if you know, he understands that it's a professional
Speaker 1: business and we're trying to get the best out of him,
Speaker 1: and he gets the stuff fixed and and uh, he
Speaker 1: is an absolute pleasure and a good man to to
Speaker 1: to be around. That's for sure. You've got a good group.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna have to see how roster cutdowns all
Speaker 1: turn out, because sometimes you lose a guy, um who
Speaker 1: might be the fifth or sixth guy in his positional group,
Speaker 1: but could have been maybe one of your core guys.
Speaker 1: And that's just the nature of the business. So you're
Speaker 1: one of those guys, quite quick thinker and also a
Speaker 1: guy who gets everybody up to speed. And your units
Speaker 1: last year really excelled. So everybody's looking forward to what
Speaker 1: the next step is from a team perspective. Everybody universally
Speaker 1: across the board throughout the off season, externally not inside
Speaker 1: the building, has lauded the Jets off season uh as
Speaker 1: far as acquisitions and both free agency and the draft,
Speaker 1: and also looked at what kind of the teams set
Speaker 1: up last year. There's some growing pains, but you guys
Speaker 1: put your head down and went right through it. So
Speaker 1: what do you think is happening here? And you're two
Speaker 1: under Robert Sala? Well, I'm really excited. You know. I've
Speaker 1: always said this, Um, you know that if I was
Speaker 1: a player again, I would love to play for Saul.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that, um for any other reason
Speaker 1: that I truly mean it. Um. You know, he's a guy,
Speaker 1: that's very sharp guy, he's always positive. Guys want to
Speaker 1: play for him. Um, you know. And then the synergy
Speaker 1: between him and Joe um and and the upstairs and
Speaker 1: the downstairs is better than I've ever seen since I've
Speaker 1: been here. Um, it really is. And I think that
Speaker 1: that we're trending in the right direction. Hopefully that equates
Speaker 1: to wins. Hopefully that equations to you know, future success
Speaker 1: for for this organization. Obviously. Man, I think everybody in
Speaker 1: this room or in this in in our team room,
Speaker 1: is is in everybody upstairs and everybody in the building
Speaker 1: is tired tired of losing, and it's about winning and
Speaker 1: losing games in this league. And and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: with the young guys that we brought in and things
Speaker 1: like that, I'm not gonna put any predictions on it
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but I really think that that
Speaker 1: you'll see an improvement on a week to week basis
Speaker 1: with it. It's a young group, um, and you'll see
Speaker 1: hopefully see improvements as we go, and the team's just
Speaker 1: getting better. And the longer that we can all be
Speaker 1: together and and coaching these guys and everything like that.
Speaker 1: The longer these players are together, the more they're gonna
Speaker 1: learn the system, the more they're gonna they're gonna, um,
Speaker 1: you know, come together as as a unit as a team.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think that that's gonna do nothing. But
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Speaker 1: a lot of Yeah. Yeah, So if Baltimore would be
Speaker 1: a quite a challenge right out of the game, because
Speaker 1: you know how much Harbor the emphasis A very good,
Speaker 1: very good team, very good unit, um you know, a
Speaker 1: very good return, a very good specialists. You know, they
Speaker 1: have the the young punter that's going to be really good.
Speaker 1: They have obviously I think one of the top kickers
Speaker 1: in the league, and they have some really good core
Speaker 1: guys and and stuff. So it'll be a real good
Speaker 1: challenge coming out the gate. Do you like to join practices?
Speaker 1: I do, you know, because I think there's some things
Speaker 1: that that you can show um on t that you
Speaker 1: won't see other than in a game, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So Philly came in here last year and
Speaker 1: and they got after us on our punt unit, and
Speaker 1: and it was really good to show the speed of
Speaker 1: the game and what they're gonna they're gonna face when
Speaker 1: we get into preseason and especially the regular season. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, the physicality and the speed that it's going
Speaker 1: to take and and uh to succeed in this league,
Speaker 1: and it is so fast for these young players, and
Speaker 1: and they don't understand how physical they have to be
Speaker 1: in their pad level and how they have to strike
Speaker 1: guys and and things like that until you get into
Speaker 1: situations like that to where you know, they came in
Speaker 1: and were really physical with us and and we didn't
Speaker 1: handle it very well and and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: and maybe it takes you getting punched in the mouth
Speaker 1: a little bit too to uh to understand that you
Speaker 1: gotta get your paths down, gotta get after people, gotta talk,
Speaker 1: gotta communicate, um, everything like that. So I think that absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think the more type of competitive situations that you
Speaker 1: can put them in and you're not going against each
Speaker 1: other all the time, than then, UM, I think I'm
Speaker 1: all for Yeah, last year Philadelphia, Green Bay this year
Speaker 1: in Atlanta and then Acrosstown Giants for a day. So
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna benefit from both of those experience. Lastly, UM,
Speaker 1: you grew up in this league at a different time.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite training camp memory, favorite training camp memory.
Speaker 1: It could be off the field, uh favorite training camp memory. Well,
Speaker 1: how about my least favorite? All right, we were we
Speaker 1: were we were in uh Stevens Point, Wisconsin, and for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, I think it was ninety let's see, there
Speaker 1: was ninety five, I believe, and we go up there
Speaker 1: and they had heat warnings to keep your pets inside, right,
Speaker 1: and we were in full pads to three hour practices
Speaker 1: of the day, six days a week, two days. So
Speaker 1: it was full pads, full pads, full pads, full pads
Speaker 1: for six six days in a row. And then you
Speaker 1: had like a um, you know, an off day, which
Speaker 1: was meetings and treatment all day and then with pet
Speaker 1: warnings and heat warnings to be inside, and we worked
Speaker 1: our tails off, I'll tell you that. So that was
Speaker 1: probably my I mean, you've got to be slugging down
Speaker 1: water and gatorade the entire time. I mean, it is,
Speaker 1: you know, because because during the practices you're you have
Speaker 1: to lift and grab lunch and in that tour and
Speaker 1: a half hour window or whatever, you gotta lift, grab lunch,
Speaker 1: and then you know, try to get back to the
Speaker 1: to the dorm room and try to get a little sleep,
Speaker 1: you know, to try to rest before the next practice.
Speaker 1: And half the time you'd be laying there and cramping
Speaker 1: up all over the place and everything. I gotta get
Speaker 1: ready for the next practice. So absolutely the worst. That's wild.
Speaker 1: You ever tell these dudes, not like, hey, when I
Speaker 1: was player, but do you ever remind them that we've
Speaker 1: come a long way as far as taking care of
Speaker 1: people's bodies with the nutrition, the rest, the health and
Speaker 1: other stuff. Where you guys are so productive of walked
Speaker 1: through walk throughs now and you're on the field maybe
Speaker 1: ninety minutes into contact is a lot less, right, I
Speaker 1: tell them all the time. So they absolutely, you know,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to hear that you're tired, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's it's kind of funny because everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: I think all the older players, it's a whole different generation.
Speaker 1: And you probably couldn't do that anymore, you know, as
Speaker 1: good as these guys are now and as fast twist
Speaker 1: as they are and things like that, but the stuff
Speaker 1: that we were asked to do, these guys aren't being
Speaker 1: asked to do. And and it's and it's really good
Speaker 1: for their health. And you know, it's all science now,
Speaker 1: based on science and how many yards they're running and
Speaker 1: everything like that, and it's fantastic what we've done here,
Speaker 1: I think. And and uh, you know they Ord and
Speaker 1: the what Braden and those guys Nicoliney and everybody in
Speaker 1: the String staff. They they go through that stuff and
Speaker 1: and how you have to you go high high and
Speaker 1: low days and things, and it's all based on science
Speaker 1: and and everything. So so I totally understand it, you know, um,
Speaker 1: but it's not as physical as it used to be.
Speaker 1: And and it takes and that goes back to my
Speaker 1: point there. You gotta get calloused a little bit, I
Speaker 1: in my in my opinion, and you've got to be
Speaker 1: able to put on those pads and be able to
Speaker 1: go through those practices and those hard days that that
Speaker 1: you know, you're smacking each other every day and your
Speaker 1: sore and you gotta you gotta get cows and get
Speaker 1: used to that stuff. And and there's a fine line
Speaker 1: between that and staying healthy. And and I think that
Speaker 1: the more we can keep these guys healthy, obviously it
Speaker 1: goes back to that thing when I said earlier that
Speaker 1: if you don't have any bullets for your gun. You
Speaker 1: you have no chance to win in this league, and
Speaker 1: you gotta stay healthy. And I think that the players
Speaker 1: have really adjusted well to the what they're doing here,
Speaker 1: and so I think that, you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be really good. It's a good blend of old school.
Speaker 1: You've got to have that mentality and new school. Uh,
Speaker 1: as far as these advances are concerned. Um, do you
Speaker 1: ever look back at those videos the game tape and say, Wow,
Speaker 1: we played at a different speedback then you just mentioned
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. I think you know, Obrick and I say
Speaker 1: it in here all the time, like we we probably
Speaker 1: couldn't have played in this era, know, to two linebackers
Speaker 1: that didn't run very well or whatever, you know, and
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, but I mean, it's all they
Speaker 1: these guys are so fast, and they're and they're getting longer,
Speaker 1: and they're getting bigger, and and everything in the safety
Speaker 1: name Mazers that that you know, all this science and
Speaker 1: and all the things that the NFL's trying to do, um,
Speaker 1: you know, keeping these guys safe as awesome. I really
Speaker 1: think so, because like I said, it's the long chevity
Speaker 1: of the product and and uh, and the product or
Speaker 1: the players and and um, you know, it is awesome
Speaker 1: to see these guys and it and it takes care
Speaker 1: of all these guys and and uh and that's that's
Speaker 1: you know, so you get your your premium you know,
Speaker 1: athlete on game day, and that's what you need. You know,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna win and lose games in this league,
Speaker 1: you've got to have the best that they are. You know.
Speaker 1: Do you find a lot of parallels similarities with Brick,
Speaker 1: you guys said career your approaches. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Brick
Speaker 1: and I get along really well and and both were
Speaker 1: similar players and I think he started I held a
Speaker 1: lot more games than I did. But um, you know, yeah, great,
Speaker 1: great dude, great staff. Um, you know, all the all
Speaker 1: the all the the players are awesome here and now
Speaker 1: and they've they've they've really done a great job of
Speaker 1: bringing in the right kind of players and workers and
Speaker 1: and um, like I think, you know, I'm really excited
Speaker 1: about where this is. This is transitioning seeing we'll see
Speaker 1: where it goes and hopefully that trans translates to wins.
Speaker 1: Enjoyed it. You've worked for three different high coaches here
Speaker 1: at the New York Jets. That speaks to your achievements
Speaker 1: and also what you bring to the table each and
Speaker 1: every year. Last year, you guys add a very good year.
Speaker 1: But by your standards, you'll be reaching for something else.
Speaker 1: I know that, absolutely absolutely. If you're not, if you're
Speaker 1: not the best in the league, then it wasn't good enough.
Speaker 1: That's how that's how I think about it, all right, man,