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Speaker 1: along with Kyle Yeoman's, Dave Hellman and Dane Bruegler with

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Speaker 1: just that. He's so tough and he's so slippery at

424
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Speaker 1: the same time. I think he's a great fit for

425
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Speaker 1: that Colt's offense and Dave Hellman. I know, it's very

426
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Speaker 1: happy as we've gone receiver receiver to open the round.

427
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Speaker 1: If we can get about eight more of those, that'd

428
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Speaker 1: be nice. Huh, keep him coming man, Which, ironically, I

429
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Speaker 1: think the Cowboys really liked Pittman and Higgins obviously. I

430
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Speaker 1: mean there, let's pick thirty three, thirty four. A lot

431
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Speaker 1: of people are gonna like him. But no, I mean

432
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Speaker 1: I think you and I were both joking on Twitter today.

433
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Speaker 1: Is spent most of the spring wondering, you know, how

434
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys could get a receiver to fall to him,

435
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I really don't care. Yeah,

436
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Speaker 1: the answer was waiting the first round. Yeah, Detroit is

437
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Speaker 1: on the clock now at thirty five. We've got t

438
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Speaker 1: Higgins off the board at thirty three to Cincinnati. At

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Speaker 1: thirty four, we've got Michael Pittman Junior from USC the

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445
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Speaker 1: the Lions executive VP and general manager Dane Needs guesses

446
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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions on the clock. I'd love to see one

447
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Speaker 1: of the running backs here. I think it was up

448
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Speaker 1: to the Lions. They would adapt what the Tennessee Titans

449
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: did last year. Just run the ball down your throat

450
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Speaker 1: and set up easy place for your quarterbacks. So only

451
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Speaker 1: one running back off the board still, Jonathan Taylor's available, JK. Dobbins,

452
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Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift. Would they go with one of these running

453
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Speaker 1: backs to add to the backfield and really help open

454
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Speaker 1: up the offense. Yeah? What about an edge here too?

455
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Speaker 1: I mean that's something that we think about with the Lions,

456
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Speaker 1: you know, and a a guy that with this coach,

457
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Speaker 1: with Matt, with Patricia, his ability to play with multiple fronts.

458
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Speaker 1: He needs a guy that could kind of do those

459
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Speaker 1: kinds of things. Maybe maybe we'll see one of these

460
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Speaker 1: guys go here's Roger. The second round, with the thirty

461
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Speaker 1: fifth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Detroit

462
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Speaker 1: Lions select DeAndre Swift, running back Georgia. That is why

463
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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler is the best there is, the best there was,

464
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Speaker 1: and the best there ever will be. As DeAndre Swift

465
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Speaker 1: is off the board, a good number of people's top

466
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Speaker 1: running back going to the Detroit Lions. There the guy

467
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Speaker 1: that has the uncanny ability to make you miss. And

468
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Speaker 1: like I said, I think the Lions really want to

469
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Speaker 1: use that running back, use the run game to help

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Speaker 1: out their quarterback, to help out everybody else in the offense.

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Speaker 1: And they can do that with DeAndre Swift, who I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he's one of the top thirty players in

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Speaker 1: this draft, but here he is available early second round,

474
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Speaker 1: tremendous value for Detroit. You're creeping towards the Cowboy pick,

475
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Speaker 1: where now it's the New York Giants on the clock.

476
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Speaker 1: The hated New York Giants are on the clock now,

477
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Speaker 1: and obviously they have already taken Andrew Thomas there in

478
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Speaker 1: the first round. So as we're trying to get a

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Speaker 1: handle on the direction they might go and the things

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Speaker 1: that they could use to improve that roster, Brian, you

481
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Speaker 1: got to handle on that. Yeah, I'll tell you what.

482
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Speaker 1: This was a pick that they were talking about trading,

483
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Speaker 1: but with the pick now being in, I kind of

484
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Speaker 1: feel like that that they they're gonna go a couple

485
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Speaker 1: of different ways here that the Giants are the offensive

486
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Speaker 1: tackle they dressed out last night. I mentioned now the edge,

487
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Speaker 1: what are they going to do with that wide receivers

488
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Speaker 1: of possibility here? Even they were talking about center and

489
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Speaker 1: safety as well as a couple of different positions. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I keep mentioning those guys the grossmato's the

491
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Speaker 1: epinessas we'll see what Dave Gettleman goes. But to keep

492
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Speaker 1: an eye on the edge, wide receivers, safeties and maybe

493
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Speaker 1: even a center here. Is it fair to guess that,

494
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Speaker 1: you know, much like we're talking about the Cowboys, a

495
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: lot of these you know, everybody's like, oh man, we

496
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Speaker 1: feel really good about what's available. There's no need to

497
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Speaker 1: try to do something crazy and get into the top

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Speaker 1: of this round. I think so, I mean, I thought

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Speaker 1: I saw I think it was a Schefter tweet where

500
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Speaker 1: he said somebody in the NFL said something about this

501
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Speaker 1: is the deepest second or third round he's ever seen,

502
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Speaker 1: and there could be as many Pro bowlers in the

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Speaker 1: second round as there is in the first. And maybe

504
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Speaker 1: we feel that to some extent every year. I think

505
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Speaker 1: when you do the work, you have a lot of

506
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Speaker 1: guys that you end up really liking. But it does

507
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Speaker 1: feel better this year. I think my board looks pretty

508
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Speaker 1: stacked up in the second and third rounds. Does that

509
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Speaker 1: hold true for everybody else? Yeah? No, I feel really good.

510
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Speaker 1: I mean when I was typing all the guys that

511
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Speaker 1: were still available on my board, I was feeling like, man,

512
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Speaker 1: this is not there's not reaching here. There's like quality

513
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Speaker 1: throughout this year. I think the Lions so far, I've

514
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Speaker 1: had a pretty good draft, by the way, with Akuta

515
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Speaker 1: and then Swift, I mean, I think they've hit a

516
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Speaker 1: couple of nice picks here. But yeah, that the depth

517
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Speaker 1: of the draft overall, especially in that second round, is

518
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Speaker 1: pretty remarkable, especially with some of these defensive guys. And

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Speaker 1: I'm a little worried that the Giants are gonna probably

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Speaker 1: take one of those safeties that the Cowboys are looking at,

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Speaker 1: whether it be McKinney or delp it here, because I mean,

522
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Speaker 1: they need some help in that secondary. That was obvious

523
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Speaker 1: last night. And I think if Okuda maybe would have

524
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Speaker 1: fallen a one more pick to fall out of the

525
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Speaker 1: Lions lap, maybe they would have taken him instead of

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Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. But I mean, I think overall, you

527
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Speaker 1: look here as these next couple of picks You've got

528
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Speaker 1: the Giants that could use a safety, the Panthers that

529
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Speaker 1: could use a safety, and then the Dolphins who could

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Speaker 1: use some defensive lion help. So I think there's a

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Speaker 1: potential for a run here defensively. But like you guys

532
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Speaker 1: are saying, I think a lot of those guys could

533
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Speaker 1: end up being Pro Bowlers and just aren't in the

534
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Speaker 1: first round because of the depth that's there. No why

535
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Speaker 1: you just wished a bunch of defensive picks though out there.

536
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Speaker 1: It's kind of message. Really, see it happening, is all

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Speaker 1: it is. I'm just throwing that out there. Guy, how

538
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Speaker 1: you're being kind of a bummer tonight? You really are.

539
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, bad mood. I don't know. I'm about what

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. I'm in a great mood. It's Draft day.

541
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Speaker 1: There's nothing vibe. Then four straight offensive picks, We're fine.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if there's I wonder if there's anything that

543
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys could do tonight that would offset what they

544
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Speaker 1: did yesterday, because I can't remember the last time I

545
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Speaker 1: don't even want to think about that. I can't remember

546
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Speaker 1: the last time that the silence during the draft was

547
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Speaker 1: celebratory as opposed to shock. Because I know we've been

548
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Speaker 1: there a couple of times in shock without a lot

549
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Speaker 1: of words to say after a cowboy pick, but not

550
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Speaker 1: in the same way we were after the Cedee Lamp pick.

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Speaker 1: Y'all's audio yesterday was one of my favorite things to

552
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Speaker 1: go back and watch, just the pure giggles from Cavanaugh

553
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Speaker 1: and then Brian exclaiming to the world that they did it.

554
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Speaker 1: I thought that was perfect. What was your guys' reaction?

555
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Speaker 1: Was it similar? We cracked open Miller lights? Is what happened?

556
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Speaker 1: Oh so you guys probably did it actually better than

557
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Speaker 1: we did. That's awesome. I don't think we were as

558
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Speaker 1: animated as y'all though. Well, we just we wanted to

559
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Speaker 1: believe that somebody would draft for just their boards, play

560
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: the best player. We were just all week long, we

561
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Speaker 1: on the radio, we've been talking about Okay, get ready,

562
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Speaker 1: it's about need. In the first round. They always take need.

563
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Speaker 1: Everybody takes need, and we were trying to prepare all

564
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Speaker 1: our listeners that that was going to be the case,

565
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Speaker 1: and they did something that I didn't think they were

566
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Speaker 1: gonna do. Let me let me throw this earway, bright guy,

567
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Speaker 1: because I don't get to do radio with you as

568
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Speaker 1: often as I used to. Do you think that that

569
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Speaker 1: signifies a philosophical change with this new coaching staff, or

570
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Speaker 1: do you think Ceedee Lamb was just that obvious that

571
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Speaker 1: even if Jason Garrett had been the head coach, they

572
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: would have done it anyway. Yeah, maybe the fact that

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Speaker 1: the coaches weren't in the room, or maybe they didn't

574
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Speaker 1: have a chance to bend somebody's ear, you know, I

575
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: think Jerry and Stephen and you know what I learned

576
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Speaker 1: was there was this was one of the best discussions

577
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Speaker 1: they had about a player, you know. I mean, they

578
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: really talked themselves through this one. And maybe it wasn't

579
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys, maybe there wasn't a bunch of

580
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: influencing going on, but they had to tag on their

581
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Speaker 1: board and the six at the stack, you know, in

582
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Speaker 1: that sixth overall spot, and that's you know, when it's

583
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Speaker 1: like that, man, it's easy to see, you know, and

584
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Speaker 1: so good for them. But I think a lot of

585
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Speaker 1: it had a lot of not many voices in the

586
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Speaker 1: room on that one. I wonder how much of that

587
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Speaker 1: is one of the positives of not having continuity, because

588
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Speaker 1: continuity meant that you had a lot of voices that

589
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Speaker 1: were trusted by the front office, that were trusted by

590
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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, and if they were interested in players, they

591
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Speaker 1: were interested in players, and he would listen to it.

592
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Speaker 1: And I wonder if when you get a brand new

593
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Speaker 1: head coach, if he doesn't just come in and go,

594
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Speaker 1: I just got here, Yeah, who's the top player, who's

595
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Speaker 1: the best guy on the board. We'll figure it out.

596
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: Bill Parcells did that when he first came to us.

597
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Speaker 1: He sat back in that first draft oh three and

598
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Speaker 1: watched everybody work. And that's you know, he just said, Okay,

599
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Speaker 1: I'm an No. Four. He tore you up. Then he

600
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Speaker 1: tore yeah exactly, and then No. Five I tore him back,

601
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Speaker 1: and then I was out of a job. But but that,

602
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Speaker 1: you know, that's where I think that you know, coaches

603
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: are smart if they come in and say, okay, let's

604
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: see how these guys going to operate. And the head

605
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: coach of Dallas Cowboys does have some opinion. He does,

606
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Speaker 1: whether you want to take it or not about personnel.

607
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: So now it is the New York Giants on the clock,

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Speaker 1: and here is Roger Goodell, Specialist Smith and thank you

609
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: to all our service members both here and around the world.

610
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Speaker 1: We cannot thank you enough for what you do and

611
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: what you continue to do in these uncertain times. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: With the thirty six pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft,

613
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Speaker 1: the New York Giants select Xavier McKinney, defensive back Alabama. Boo.

614
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Speaker 1: Giants love taking those Bama safeties at the top of

615
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Speaker 1: the second round. Landon Collins. You know, never really thought

616
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Speaker 1: that McKinney was a good player, so I'm really worried

617
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Speaker 1: about that one. So that's that's probably the first Cowboys

618
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Speaker 1: target off the board here in the second round, as

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Speaker 1: Xavier McKinney will be headed to the New York Giants

620
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Speaker 1: and you get to deal with him a couple of

621
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Speaker 1: times a year. Who is the biggest Xavier McKinney fan

622
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Speaker 1: who wants to go scouting report on McKinney fired at him, Dane,

623
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Speaker 1: You know, he is my top safety. I do have

624
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: some questions about him holding up in coverage, but this

625
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: is a player who had ten turnover worthy plays the

626
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Speaker 1: last two years, talking about forced fumbles and interceptions. I

627
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: think he's a better run defender than in pass coverage.

628
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Speaker 1: But this is an all around safety who is very smart.

629
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Speaker 1: The coach is good about for him in Alabama. I

630
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Speaker 1: think there's a lot to like about him as he

631
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Speaker 1: projects to the next level. I don't know that he's

632
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Speaker 1: ever going to be a Pro Bowl level player, but

633
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be a solid starter for a long time.

634
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Speaker 1: Anybody wanted to go up for him, Oh, absolutely not,

635
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Speaker 1: not with what's available. Although I will say I wouldn't

636
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Speaker 1: be surprised if he was their top guy heading into today,

637
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean they expected him to fall. But

638
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: we heard whispers that they might have taken him seventeen

639
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: in the right set of circumstances, or maybe in a

640
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: trade back to the twenties. So if they liked him

641
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: that much, it's a reasonable guest that he would have

642
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: been one of their top guys tonight. Um. I don't

643
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: think it was ever realistic to think he lasted that long,

644
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: but it still hurts to see him go after just

645
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: four picks. Yeah. I spent a lot of time yesterday Dave, thinking, man,

646
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: this is going to come down to aj Terrell for

647
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: the Cowboys or but then you had the Rugs pick,

648
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: and then you had the kin Law pick, and it

649
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: was like, well wait, wait, wait a second. Here it

650
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: went from being. It went from like planning for a

651
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: worst case to scenario to like do it? Dare I

652
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: dream very quickly somewhere yeah, somewhere around pick twelve. It's

653
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: time for the New England Patriots at number thirty seven.

654
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: Here is the commission in the twenty twenty NFL Draft

655
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: in New England Patriots like Kyle Duggar defensive back nor

656
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: Rhyne Okay Dane, tell me about Kyle Dugger because I

657
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: will tell you, out of the top one hundred players

658
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: in this draft, he's the only one. And I tried.

659
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: I've tried tweeting the school. I tried, but I couldn't

660
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: get the all twenty two. So I had to try

661
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: to grade him from the blimp cam and I'm not

662
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: comfortable with that. So tell me about Kyle Dugger. You

663
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: have to look past the dcal and the helmet because

664
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: Division two here, so the competition is not exactly what

665
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: you want. But he was a big time player at

666
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: the D two levels. I know some teams looked at

667
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: him as even a linebacker, so we'll have to see

668
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: how the Patriots use him. Really rangey player, he can cover,

669
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: he can run, He's a big time punt returner at

670
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: the D two level as well. So a little older

671
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: than you want for a player, I just turned twenty

672
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: four years old, but the talent level, I don't have

673
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: a question. This isn't just a late bloomer who ended

674
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: up at the D two level, but he is a

675
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: big time playmaker and certainly worthy of a top forty pick.

676
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. That's New England. The

677
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers are on the clock at number thirty eight,

678
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: and we will have that pick for you here in

679
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: just a little bit. You are listening to the twenty

680
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: twenty NFL Draft on one oh five three the Fan

681
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys dot Com bank. You're on the internet

682
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: side of things. Back to back safety is going in

683
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: the order between the Giants and the Patriots. Xavier McKinney.

684
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger now off the board and continuing that conversation

685
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: on Kyle Dugger and looking past the logo on the

686
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: side of the helmet. A late bloomery. I mean he

687
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: started at five six all the way through the early

688
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: parts of his high school career and then its senior year,

689
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: he all of a sudden spurred it up to six

690
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: foot one and then that's where he ended up going.

691
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: But just an extreme athlete and the guy who's gonna

692
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: impact the Patriots. This is such a Patriots type of

693
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: pick though, to be honest, that it just fits that mold. Yeah,

694
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: you know the question I have for you guys is that, Okay,

695
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: of of the of Dugger and Windfield, who are you

696
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: going to take? Who? Those short? Those short? And you

697
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: have to think about, Oh, is this are we in

698
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: a situation where Minnesota or lelnor Ryan or is this

699
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: it is Dugger the better player? Dugger's the better player.

700
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: I think Dugger's a better player, honest day. We actually no,

701
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: I don't, No, I don't. It's still Windfield. I keep

702
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: getting scared by the hype, but I don't understand. Don't

703
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: be Why Why should I be scared by? That is

704
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: the youngest old school scout I've ever seen in my life,

705
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: the youngest scared school dude. I sorry, like Antoine Winfield,

706
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: but five nine should scare you? Am I crazier? Did

707
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: Tyrone Matthew not just get named all decade? I'm pretty

708
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: sure he did. Oh man, you're talking, Come on, so

709
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: you're telling me he's the honey badger. You're telling me

710
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: he has to be the honey badger to his dad

711
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: was short. He played fourteen years in the league and

712
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: was a solid starting at a different position. That's fair, okay.

713
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield looks reliable in coverage, has good ball skills,

714
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: and looks like he wants to hit the crap out

715
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: of you like he. Don't get me wrong here, Antoine

716
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: Winfield is a very good player. I just when you

717
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: compare him to some of these other safeties, I would

718
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: rather have a Dugger, a delt Fit, McKinney, Jeremy Chin.

719
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: I would take Antone Winfield somewhere here in the second round,

720
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: just not over some of some of these other safeties.

721
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: We can agree or disagree, Like the Cowboys do a

722
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: lot of things right, they do a lot of things wrong.

723
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: They're not right about everything. But I am. I am

724
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: wholeheartedly on board with the idea that I want players

725
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: that have done it at the highest level. I want

726
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: the guy that's been to the horseshoe or the swamp.

727
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: I don't want Leonora rhyn No offense to Kyle Dugger,

728
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: but I like that piece of not mind of knowing

729
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: that my draft picks have played football at the highest level.

730
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: That's just me. We lost my guy yet thirty eight.

731
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: We lost my guy for fifty one. Gross Mottos is

732
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: off the board. So going to the Carolina Panthers, Wow,

733
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: they're beefing up that defensive line. It took Derek Brown

734
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: in the first and then Matt Rule grabs you to

735
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: Gross Matos in the second. Okay, that's a pretty solid tandem.

736
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: We call that a fake pin throw, but it's not

737
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: a fake pin throw. I picked in my fake marka.

738
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: We call that like a oh darn oh, oh damn it,

739
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: he's not there. What are we gonna do? You guys

740
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: are faking. I wanted him, that was my guy. I

741
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: never I never saw it. I don't know. Somebody tell

742
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: me that I'm wrong, Dan, tell me that I'm wrong.

743
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: What what didn't you like about him? I just I didn't.

744
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: I didn't see like a lot of explosiveness for a

745
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: guy that people were talking about as a first round pick.

746
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: And I hate to compare him. I don't. I don't

747
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: want to compare him to Taco. I just did it

748
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: by saying his name. But like it always seemed like

749
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: if he couldn't get past you with his first idea,

750
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: then he didn't know what else to do. It looked

751
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: really good on tape against Indiana. That didn't get me

752
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: too riled up. Wow Wow, I think there's no question

753
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: he still needs to learn how to patch everything together.

754
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: But with that length, that flexibility, I coach him up

755
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: and I think you have something there. Uh you know.

756
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: I think he's an easy player to like. I thought

757
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: he was worthy of a first round pick. And you

758
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: can reduce him inside, you can play him outside. I

759
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: think he has big time potential, not just what he

760
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: is right now, but what he's going to look like

761
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: two years from now. I kind of agree with David

762
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: on this. Oh hey, my guy, I was going I

763
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: was waiting for him. I'm watching him in the Memphis

764
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: the game against the Cotton Bowl, and I'm like, he

765
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: has a good rush, and then for like three or

766
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: four plays in a row, he did absolutely nothing. And

767
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, going, come on, man, you're playing Memphis today.

768
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: And again I'm slamming Memphis right now, but you know

769
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: you're Penn State. Find a way to get to the quarterback,

770
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: find a way to affect the pocket. I just did not,

771
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: And Dane, you could be well right about coach him

772
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: up do this with him, work on the technique. I

773
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: just did not see enough of those plays to make

774
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: me feel like that, well, I'm getting a real difference maker.

775
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: I thought, I'm getting a guy that's got talent, but

776
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be so far down the line for me.

777
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: I tell you what, Well, then you guys are happy,

778
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: and I'm happy that you're happy. I like to see

779
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: other people happy, and Gross Mottos is gone. He was

780
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: my top and second NFL Draft continues one three the Fan.

781
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: Weoke down back Cowboys dot Com. Welcome back, Jeff Kavanaugh

782
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: and Brian brought us of one oh five three the

783
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: Fan along with Kyle Yeoman's Dave Hellman and Dane Brugler

784
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We'll be here with you

785
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: for every pick. Here. On day two of the NFL Draft,

786
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: at thirty eight, you had ye tour Gross Mottos defensive

787
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: end Penn State go to the Carolina Panthers. I didn't

788
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: like it. Dane Brugler didn't like it. If he's pulling

789
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, But boy, I tell you, we got

790
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: three analysts on here that couldn't stand him, and we're

791
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: really excited that he's gone, and I'm shock and surprised

792
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: at your guys's evaluation abilities. I'm gonna have to reevaluate

793
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: those myself. But he's gone, and at thirty nine we

794
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: now have the Miami Dolphins on the clock because we're

795
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: creeping our way towards fifty one and go ahead. No,

796
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: the gross modest thing is to me, I just I

797
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: was expecting it more and I didn't get more. Everybody's

798
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: talking about, oh, you gotta watch this grossmatos, you gotta

799
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 1: watch him, and like I was talking about, I did,

800
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: and I watched him, and I watched him. I watched him.

801
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: I was saying, give me more, give me more. I'm thinking,

802
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: oze left in Where is he getting right in toward

803
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: traits luid range, able to get slippery inside and out

804
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: in order to get himself free. You guys see a

805
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: whole lot of range there. Who you didn't see range

806
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: from gross mottos working down the line. He was straight

807
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: forward forward line thinking no, he said no, but yeah,

808
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: well forward is how you get down the line. You

809
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: run forward. I'm not asking the guy to do the

810
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: karaoke drill to chase the running back. Go get it

811
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: might help him a little bit well, when he got

812
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: that length going and used it, and he's able to

813
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: make himself tough to block within him how often inside

814
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: he can now Dan's moving him inside to tackle on

815
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: on third downs. Absolutely, get more speed on the field. Now, Really,

816
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: are not knocked around in there telling you you watch

817
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: the Memphis tape. I did watch the Memphis tapes. That

818
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: thing we saw him. You saw him from a three

819
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: technique bully the Memphis guard right into the backfield Memphis.

820
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: You know it's Chase On for nine games against bad competition,

821
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: he had two sacks and you guys were drooling for

822
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: the dude because he runs fast. Oh you liked Chase

823
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: On too, don't rewrite history. I had Chase On right

824
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: in front of gross mottos. I think they were close

825
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: to me. That's where blood's explosive and one's running in sand.

826
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: One produced and one didn't. That's a great point, sand.

827
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: I mean, thirty five tackles for lost the last two

828
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 1: years and the Big ten not bad. You know what,

829
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: what I've learned in this conversation is for better or

830
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: for worse. I'm glad he went because I don't want

831
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad we're having this debate. About Carolina Panther yet

832
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: gross mottos and not Dallas Cowboy. So Miami Dolphins on

833
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: the clock. Now I'm gonna go ahead and let all

834
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: that go get back in a good mood because we're

835
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: all broadcasting with friends on one oh five three and

836
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot com. So Miami, uh, this will

837
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: be the way their fourth pick of this draft. They're

838
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: sitting there with two a tongue of vloa. They are

839
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: sitting there with Austin Jaxon. And then my page cut

840
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: off and I don't see their third PICKO noah ig

841
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: oh igbinogeny. And now the Dolphins pick is in at

842
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: number thirty nine in the second round. Here's Roger with

843
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: the thirty ninth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft,

844
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins select Robert Hunt, tackle Louisiana Lafayette. There

845
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: is a Dane Brugler special as this was your top

846
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: rated guard, I believe, even though he's from you La La,

847
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: and he played right tackle at Louisiana Lafayette. A guy

848
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: that really only played a little bit of guard earlier

849
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: in his career moved to tackle the last two years.

850
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: We was All Conference player This is a mean dude.

851
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: He will bury you and not apologize for it. He

852
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: is a fun player who missed part of most of

853
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: the draft process. Missed the Senior bull because of an injury,

854
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: missed the Combine, so weren't sure how that was going

855
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: to affect his draft status. Didn't affect it very much

856
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: because I thought he was worthy of a second round pick.

857
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: That's where he went. We have the Houston Texans. They're

858
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: going to be on the clock at number forty overall,

859
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: their first pick of the draft. I believe yes. And

860
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: if they're handling of their front office lately as any indication,

861
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: they will pick a sixth rounder here and then break

862
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: NFL rules to sign him to a new deal before

863
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: he plays for like one hundred million dollars. That's what

864
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's gonna do. How does Bill O'Brien end up

865
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: as the GM? Is he is? He good at relationships?

866
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: Did he got the owner of the team to trust

867
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: him somehow? Well, it's the owner passed away, so well

868
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: there's still an owner. Somebody owns the team, I know,

869
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: But he's he's run out a couple of General Mattress.

870
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, Brian Gaine was a guy that

871
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: they they had worked together, and he got rid of him.

872
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: Rick Smith a long time ago. He know his wife

873
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: got six So you know, Bill steadily, he wins enough games,

874
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: he gets some of the playoffs, he finds a way

875
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: to win the division. So you know he gets a

876
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: lot of control that way. But yeah, this way of

877
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: handling and roster building and the team and stuff, that's

878
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: a good roster. But I'm just telling you right now

879
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: though his general manager skills are not very good. Well,

880
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: he's on. He's on. Go ahead. Is it what gave

881
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: it away? The DeAndre Hopkins trade or the money you make?

882
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm saying. You're you're in a

883
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: situation right now. You're it's about building your roster, and

884
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: you know doing there's some it's a talented they got

885
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: some talent there, but he's going to find a way

886
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: to wreck that talent, is what he's going to do. Well.

887
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: It's a lot like when Chip Kelly got personnel in Philadelphia.

888
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I'll just trade the good players. This

889
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: is fun. I'm the personality in the room. It's just

890
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: a it's a really weird strategy. And then to pretend

891
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: that the David Johnson that as a player that he's

892
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: a plus at his salary, that was a minus. You

893
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: should have got more. Here's Roger twenty NFL Draft. You

894
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: use some Texans select Ross Blacklock, defensive tackle TCU. All right,

895
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: talk to me. Now, anybody throwing a pen at that one,

896
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: I think that's a guy that you probably interested in

897
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: at fifty one. Now I'm throwing a pin, a fake pen.

898
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: Oh it's a fake pen throw. That's a fake pen

899
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: throw for me. But yeah, I liked him a lot. Somebody, Yeah,

900
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: we do. We really think he was gonna make it

901
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: to fifty one, though I think realistically too good of

902
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: a player. Do I think fall out of the top

903
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: fifty picks. Yeah, but I think I agree with you.

904
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: But I think that when we get to fifty one,

905
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: there's gonna be players available that I'll have the same

906
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: thing apply to where I'll be like, yeah, I didn't

907
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: think that he was gonna make it. I don't know

908
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: who that guy's name is yet, but I think as

909
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: we get there that is going to happen. It's just

910
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: a matter of who that name is. But he was

911
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: definitely one of them where you anticipated him going well

912
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: before you pick so TCUs Ross Blacklocke, who when I

913
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: watched him, they were lining up as a one technique,

914
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: and I think it as an NFL player, he projects

915
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: more as a three technique. Put him head up over

916
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: the guard and let him use some of that athletic

917
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: ability to try to rush the passer. Sixty three two

918
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: ninety pounds. I liked him. He would have been a

919
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: nice pick at fifty one, but yeah, probably going earlier

920
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: than that, only he got a basketball background. You have

921
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: that unique kind of combination with some lateral quickness and

922
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: you got the agility kind of paired with the length

923
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: as well. So I mean, I think this is one

924
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: of those guys. Him and both Neville Gallimore had some

925
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: of the better lateral kind of sideline the sideline ability

926
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: as a d tackle than really a lot of the

927
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: guys in the draft. Even though that Blacklock had that

928
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: achilles injury back in twenty eighteen. I really do like

929
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: this pick for the Texans, And hey, Bill O'Brien did

930
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: something smart that's kind of new. He stepped out of

931
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: the room for a little bit. He'll probably trade him now.

932
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: This guy, I mean, you talk about a disruptive player though.

933
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: That first step quickness inside is stuff. Jeff, I think

934
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: you're right about him playing in those playim as a three.

935
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: Let him attack the gap. I mean, I like the

936
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: fact that how he's able to put himself in position.

937
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: He's a hard guy to fool. I was watching there

938
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: were some schemes that were trying to pull him out

939
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: of the way and he's like, I'm not going for that,

940
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: and he beat He'd beat those trap blocks, get up

941
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: the field tackle. He was my twenty sixth best player

942
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: on my board. So I'm a big fan of this guy.

943
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: Whenever I watch in tied defensive lineman in general, I

944
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: really like when I don't need to know exactly what

945
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: number he's wearing it because when just when you walk,

946
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: you can tell pretty quickly. Okay, that's who I need

947
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: to watch, because he's firing off the ball, he's winning early.

948
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: You see those violent hands, you see the scheme versatility.

949
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: Ross Blacklock was definitely that guy for TCU. So now

950
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: we got the Indianapolis Colts on the clock at number

951
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: forty one, and I believe this is their first pick

952
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: of the draft. And here is the commissioner first pick

953
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis folks, when the forty first pick in

954
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Indianapolis Colts select Jonathan Taylor,

955
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: running back Wisconsin apaula jeez. Of course they picked not

956
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: too long ago, and they took Michael Pittman and now

957
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor running back out of Wisconsin. Dane, you said

958
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: some running backs were going to start going, here's the

959
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: beginning of the run. How many other teams before the

960
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys you think might take a couple? And if you

961
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: want to add a Jonathan Taylor scouting report, that dude

962
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: was a workhorse. Ya talk about production. If you would

963
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: have went back for a senior year, he would have

964
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: shattered every major rushing record in college football history. Just

965
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: a really talented guy. And yes he benefited from Wisconsin's

966
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: offense and offensive line, but he deserves credit as well.

967
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: This is a fourth three athlete at five eleven two

968
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: n twenty five pounds. He's not a big, make you

969
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: miss guy, but good luck tackling him, good luck getting

970
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: him on the ground. And this is an interesting selection

971
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: for Indianapolis. They are giving Philip Rivers their new quarterbacks

972
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: and help Michael Pittman on the outside. Jonathan Taylor in

973
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: the backfield. You have to really like what Chris Ballard

974
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: is doing with the Colts right now. All the old

975
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are finally getting weapons. And did we mention I

976
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: get that was a trade up from forty four, was

977
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: it not? Yes, it was because Cleveland originally had Cleveland

978
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: slides out of that pick, trying to add more value.

979
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the terms, but so that's interesting, you know, adding, Yeah,

980
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: surrounding Philip Rivers with talent. I actually a little birdie

981
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: told me that the Cowboys were super super high on

982
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: this guy. They really like Jonathan Taylor. Obviously, who doesn't, uh,

983
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: And I only bring it up because it's it's fascinating

984
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: for me to think, you know, if a guy like

985
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: that falls to a team like Dallas, I mean, what

986
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: a test of best player available that would be, because

987
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: on no level would make sense to draft that guy.

988
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, I got too many receivers

989
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: to be running out too many running backs. I understand.

990
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: I'm just I just think it would be funny. I mean,

991
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: it's it's not going to be a problem now because

992
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: he's gone, but it's funny to think about we're down

993
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: to the Jacksonville Jaguars at pick number forty two here

994
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: in the second round on one oh five three the

995
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com is Jeff Kevin on

996
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: Brian brought us from the Fan, Kyle Yeoman's Dane Brugler

997
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 1: and Dave Hellman with Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And let's

998
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: take a quick look back at our boards as we

999
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: are now within ten picks of the Dallas Cowboys, and Kyle,

1000
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: you want to give me a few names that jump

1001
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: out at you that you're hoping can keep sticking around. Yeah,

1002
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: I mean I'm still sitting there looking at Christian Fulton

1003
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: on the board and then also Grant Delpit. Both guys

1004
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: are still there. I think here you're probably gonna see

1005
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: Jacksonville go with a wide receiver. So there's another pick

1006
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: that's gonna push that a little bit further down. We

1007
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: kind of expected maybe the Bears to go up a

1008
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: little bit. They're still sitting at forty three. They could

1009
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: use some defense and they may take one of those corners.

1010
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: So there's some teams out in front of you that

1011
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: scare you a little bit in terms of taking some

1012
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: of the guys that you're looking at. But The fact

1013
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: that Fulton is still on the board still kind of

1014
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: shocks me a little bit. I still had a one

1015
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: two great on him, so if he's able to fall

1016
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: to fifty one, I'd be at static. Dave Hellman, I mean,

1017
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: it's it's what we said. I mean, McKinney's off the board,

1018
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: Grossmatos and oh geez, I totally drew a blank. Who's

1019
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: the oh Black Black loves me? Yeah, I mean, I'm

1020
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: not mad about that at all. Those are you know,

1021
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: I'm fine with them not being cowboy picks, but I'm

1022
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm looking at Trevan Diggs, I'm looking at

1023
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson, Christian Fulton, Grant Delpit, aj Epanessa still hanging

1024
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: out there, Zachin, Mattabeke as well. That's another name. Yeah,

1025
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: another name. I mean I'm feeling really good about. You know. Then,

1026
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: you know, we've kind of got a small circle of

1027
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: names that we think the cowboys might like, and there's

1028
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: still plenty of them here as we inch closer. What

1029
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: we're on pick forty two right now, so we're inside

1030
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,959
Speaker 1: a ten or so picks, and there's still a pretty

1031
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: healthy amount of names sitting there. Matta Bik is a

1032
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: really interesting one to me because I really liked him

1033
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: on tape and I was actually listening to Dane on

1034
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: a podcast with Lance Zerline, and I think it was

1035
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: Lance who said he had heard some things from some

1036
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: teams and that maybe we should expect a slide from Mattabike.

1037
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: There's some character stuff there. There is, and that's something

1038
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: that I've verified as well. Some teams a little worried

1039
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: about that, but some teams are not. It's one of

1040
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: those things where there's no firm opinion there. I'm gonna

1041
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: throw out a what about Zach Bond? How do we

1042
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: feel about him as a possibility at fifty one? I

1043
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 1: like it. You would have to convince me that they're

1044
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: really going to be pretty darn multiple and what they're

1045
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna do defensively, because you know, we've heard them talk

1046
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: about use the word SAM slash DPR designated pass rusher,

1047
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: and I think that fits him really well when you

1048
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: watch him at Wisconsin. His ability to hold the edge

1049
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: with one arm, which I think they teach at Wisconsin

1050
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: really really well. His ability to do that combined with

1051
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: cover and rush the passer. I love the idea of

1052
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: Zach Bond. The implementation of Zach Bond would be my

1053
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: only question. I'm on board with that too. I mean

1054
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: I thought a team like the Ravens was going to

1055
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 1: take him last night because of their ability to fit

1056
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: their players. I mean they they whatever talent their players

1057
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: have or skills they have, they're at one of those

1058
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 1: staffs to say, okay, well we'll call our scheme towards

1059
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: what's your strength. I thought that. You know, this was

1060
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: a guy though, I really really liked him because I

1061
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: do for you know, he played a little light at

1062
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: at at Wisconsin, tried to put on weight for the combine.

1063
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: You know it got to do what deluted sample, probably

1064
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: trying to put too much water in him to hold

1065
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: some weight. But man, this guy, when you watch you play,

1066
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 1: you're thinking like, oh, wait a minute, he's not gonna

1067
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: get there. Oh he just did? You know? He's that

1068
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: guy everything every time you see him. It's no way, no,

1069
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: he made the play. You know, I'm I'm a I'm

1070
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: a big fan at fifty one. If you got a

1071
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: guy like this, I'd be totally on board. That's like

1072
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: my twenty seventh best player right there at him as

1073
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 1: a one too. So mister Brugler, talk to me about

1074
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: how you would use bond less. I mean, we know

1075
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: that he can rush the passer, but what would you

1076
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: do with him as a sam linebacker? Yeah, and I

1077
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: think that's where you're I think he's a stack and

1078
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: that's how you want to use him, and you don't

1079
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: want to completely eliminate him as a rusher a blitzer.

1080
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: But when you look at the Cowboys, if they fully

1081
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: commit to a three to four, they're gonna need some

1082
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: more help at linebacker, especially on the inside, and maybe

1083
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: that's how you use him. You move them around, let

1084
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: him rush, let them blitz from different angles. And that's

1085
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: what Wisconsin did so well. They let him rush from

1086
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: so many different angles. And you can but you also

1087
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: saw him drop and cover. You saw him You be

1088
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: an athlete and do some things in space. So I'm

1089
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: a big fan of bond As long as you're okay

1090
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: with that deluded sample and you know any character concerns,

1091
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: I would be all on board with drafting him to

1092
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: fifty one. Here we go, the Jacksonville Jaguars still on

1093
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: the clock. We'll get their pick here in just a second.

1094
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: Because the pick is in, we're just waiting to see

1095
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: who the Jacksonville Jaguars are going to take here, and

1096
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 1: then we'll be able to kind of reset and be

1097
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: getting closer and closer to the Dallas Cowboys picking at

1098
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: fifty one right here on one oh five three the

1099
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: Fan and on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Here is the commissioner.

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00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: We're the forty second pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft.

1101
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars select Laviska Channault wide receiver Colorado. There

1102
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: you go, that is a dangerous, dangerous man with the

1103
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: football in his hands. Maybe not the most polished or

1104
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: developed receiver in terms of route running and being a

1105
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: complete player, but you let him have the ball and

1106
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: it becomes a party when people are trying to tackle him. Well,

1107
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: he was a playmaker at Colorado. I mean, this is

1108
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: a guy who profiles more as maybe an X but

1109
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: you could put him in the slot. They put him

1110
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: in the backfield, had some handoff and some gadget plays

1111
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: with him as well. I just I like him overall.

1112
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: Did have some turf toe issue, I believe in twenty nineteen.

1113
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: I think he had surgery to repair that, or even

1114
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: maybe it was a He had some torn labor stuff

1115
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: there too, so some injury concerned. But a DeSoto kid,

1116
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Texas high school football DFW product, and I think he's

1117
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: a great player. Honestly, I like this pick. The Chicago

1118
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: Bears on the clock at number forty three, as we

1119
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: work our way towards fifty one, where the Dallas Cowboys

1120
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: are gonna pick. You're listening to the twenty twenty NFL

1121
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: Draft on one oh five three the fan in Dallas

1122
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com bank you're on the Dallas Cowboys dot

1123
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: Com side of things, and Laviskas Chenault desto goal product

1124
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: now going to the Jacksonville Jaguars, and Kavanaugh was getting up.

1125
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,479
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask him a question, but I'm gonna

1126
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: go back to Brian Broad and said, Okay, Kavana, go

1127
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. No, you're fine, go get

1128
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: it done. I'll ask I'll ask Brian. You're good, You're good.

1129
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,959
Speaker 1: We'll come back to it. But Brian, I was gonna

1130
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: ask you. We kind of gave some of our picks

1131
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: Dan and David and myself in terms of some of

1132
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: the guys you're starting to hone in on last night.

1133
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,479
Speaker 1: We got to about pick twelve before we started seeing

1134
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb as a possibility. Do you see any guys

1135
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: that kind of starts sticking out to you. Maybe it's Bond,

1136
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: maybe it's somebody else. Yeah, I tell you what. As

1137
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: I looked down the board here, you know, I was

1138
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: worried about the Bears of being a team that might

1139
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: take Diggs. You know, they've got two picks ahead of you.

1140
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: I think the tight end is in play here for

1141
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: the Bears. In one of these picks, the kid the

1142
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: first time, I believe it's gonna be commet, that's gonna

1143
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: be taken off this board. And so I was kind

1144
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: of hearing some whispers that the Bears, but they also

1145
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: heard some whispers about Diggs being a part of one

1146
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: of these two picks. So I was a little bit

1147
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: concerned about that. You know, I still like the way

1148
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: the board's holding up. I like the fact that there's

1149
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: still corners there. I like the fact that there's still

1150
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: some safeties there defensive end. I mean, you know this,

1151
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: this this board is all right right now. But like

1152
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: I say, we need some more of those. If you're

1153
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: a Cowboy fan, you need some more of those offensive

1154
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: players to go off. If you want to get down

1155
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: to get one of these these defensive players we just

1156
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: talked about, Well, you look at forty five that could

1157
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: be with the Buccaneers. That could be an offensive pick.

1158
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: The Falcons could go offensive side of the football since

1159
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: they went with aj Terrell in the first round. Jets,

1160
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: Steelers all need some offensive help. And you already mentioned

1161
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: the Bears who have two picks in the next nine

1162
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: to potentially address a tight end issue. But now the

1163
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh's back will ask Jeff, some of the players that

1164
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: you're kind of starting to look at, kind of at

1165
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: least highlighting maybe that blinking light like Steven Jones talked

1166
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: about yesterday in terms of the players that could start

1167
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: showing up as a potential on your board. I guess

1168
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: my blinking light at the moment is Zach Bond, the

1169
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: guy we already talked about. He's my highest rated player. Left.

1170
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: After him, I would go to Christian Fault in the

1171
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: LSU corner, Trevon Diggs the Alabama corner, and after that

1172
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: a Keem Davis Gaither at linebacker. I'm a big fan

1173
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: of I know when I run simulations, I can get

1174
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: him in the third or fourth round. But I've got

1175
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: him in the second. I'm a really big fan of his.

1176
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: And then aj Epenesa, Julio Julian o'kwara off of the edge.

1177
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: Those are my top guys. What about Jeremy Chin. I

1178
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: haven't heard. Chin's name kind of floated around here. I

1179
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: know Brian mentioned some of those safeties. They're still delping

1180
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: in Winfield there. But Chin's another guy that's intriguing. Yeah,

1181
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Chin, I really am. And

1182
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: I maybe you know he's going against accountants and doctors

1183
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: and whatever else the games he's playing against and bankers

1184
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: and who else. But you watch him, he can cover

1185
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: some ground, you know, when he's running, he's getting finished.

1186
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: I think he can cover you know, they moved him

1187
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: around at Southern roy he had different responsibilities. It looks

1188
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: like the Bears pick is in. But I'm a fantas guy.

1189
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: Let's go to the commissioner right now if we could.

1190
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: It looks like we would just we'll talk about this selection.

1191
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: Maybe we don't have the commissioner here up on the side,

1192
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: so we'll talk through it. Make the pick regardless of

1193
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: whether or not we can hear it. Yeah, I was, Yeah,

1194
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: I was, I was. I thought we would go through. Yeah,

1195
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: it's it's cool. Commet, So here we go, col Commet

1196
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: the tight end. Okay, dang it. Yeah, there's your pen

1197
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: three right there, right top tight end off the board.

1198
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: By the way, I forgot a name because I was

1199
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: scrolled over on my board. I didn't have the safeties up.

1200
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: Grant Delpitt is in my top three of who I

1201
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: would want to make it to the Cowboys at fifty one.

1202
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: I just real quick, Jeff, I just I want to

1203
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: throw this point out there, and there's I mean, there's

1204
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: no way for me to say this without being a hater,

1205
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: I guess, but do it that. I I this is

1206
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: what I bring the value for because all of y'all

1207
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: think that you're actually GMS, and I'm just over here

1208
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: to remind you should be. I'm just over here to

1209
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: remind you of what the Cowboys actually do. And I'll

1210
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: buy you all dinner if they draft Jeremy Chin in

1211
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: the second round if it take that, Can I get

1212
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: dinner if they take Delpit? Well, Dave is saying that

1213
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: because he knows that Will McClay won't take a small

1214
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: small You're damn right, That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm

1215
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: sure did you write a story about that. I sure did.

1216
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: I talk about it all the time. They haven't drafted

1217
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: a non Division one football player since twenty thirteen, and

1218
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: that was in the third round. It was also before

1219
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 1: the process. Uh, JJ Wilcox, b W web and JJ

1220
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: Wilcox in the same draft, but that was before Will

1221
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: took over. They have not done it since the smallest

1222
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: there with State. Yeah, exactly. If they go FCS in

1223
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: the top fifty one, I'll take you all to a

1224
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: fast food restaurant of your choice. Yeah. Nice, quite a

1225
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: few that I like their Dave and I can run

1226
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: a wallet up there because I don't get meals, I

1227
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: get individual items to watch yourself. You got it all right, Cleveland.

1228
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: This is the twenty twenty NFL Draft with Jeff Cavanaugh,

1229
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: Brian brought Us, Dane Hellman, Dane Brugler, and Kyle Yeomans

1230
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: Ollie cow We're to number forty four, working our way

1231
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: to fifty one for the Dallas Cowboys. We've got the

1232
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns on the clock right now. The first tight

1233
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: end is off the board as Cole Comet is going

1234
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: to be a Chicago Bear, and so you've lost the

1235
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: top tight end off of a lot of people's boards.

1236
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: There to the Chicago Bears. You have the Tampa Bay

1237
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: Buccaneers on the clock, and we were just talking about

1238
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: some of the names that you'd love to see make

1239
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: it to fifty one for the Cowboys, and I will

1240
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: tell you the top four that I am watching our

1241
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: Zach Bond, Wisconsin linebacker, slash Edge, Grant Delpit safety at LSU,

1242
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton cornerback at LSU, and Trevon Diggs cornerback at Alabama.

1243
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: So let's just round table here. Which names have I

1244
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: left off that should be in that conversation? Well, I

1245
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 1: was just gonna go through the Browns needs real quick

1246
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: if I could, Joe that we talked about that with

1247
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: the guard, safety, and edge, So keep an eye on

1248
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: those posessional linebacker and there ye linebacker. Well yeah, linebacker

1249
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: and linebacker and safety. Those are the two big ones

1250
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: for for the Browns. Uh, And that's what I would

1251
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: expect here. But uh, the both of them, but both

1252
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: of them are big needs. I wouldn't be surprised at either.

1253
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: But this is we mentioned at the top. This is

1254
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: a the sweet spot for the safeties, and the Browns

1255
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: already traded back once because they think they feel good

1256
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: about a couple of these guys. Uh, if they want

1257
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: to go safety, whether that's Chin, it's Delpit, Windfield, So

1258
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: that could be a direction they're going here, Dan and

1259
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: the new general manager there? His style? Is he a

1260
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: numbers guy? What is his what is his uh way

1261
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: he operates? Well, yeah, there's no secret you know that

1262
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: the Browns front office is a very analytically driven um.

1263
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: But at the same time, uh, you know, we don't know.

1264
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: This is the first year general manager. Andrew Berry is

1265
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: the youngest general manager in the league. We've never seen

1266
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: him in charge of a draft room before, so we

1267
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: just don't know. We don't have any draft trends. We

1268
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: don't understand fully just how he's going to use these

1269
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: metrics to draft players. You know, could be a Jeremy

1270
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: Chin who had the production, who has the testing but

1271
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: all at the FCS level. Could be an Antone Winfield

1272
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: who had tremendous production FBS but doesn't have the size,

1273
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: Grant Delpit is a mix of all that. So I

1274
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: think we're not really sure just how the metrics are

1275
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: going to drive the Browns thinking when it comes to

1276
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: draft picks. Yea. Does Delpitt fit that metrics kind of

1277
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: a system? Though? If you talk about this he just

1278
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: he's done his pro day, he does. I mean it's

1279
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: not the same as the combine. But if you just

1280
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: take his forty time and his height and weight, you

1281
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: would be projecting that he's a really good athlete at

1282
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: that size. You mean his thirty eight yard time probably.

1283
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: I mean if Karen Dansler ran in the four threes,

1284
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: then Grant Delpitt might a run a four one. Well,

1285
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: that's the problem. We don't know with Delpit. Teams are

1286
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: going to take those times with grain of salt, so

1287
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: we don't know how that might affect some of the

1288
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: decision making when it comes to drafting players. So we

1289
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: wait for the Cleveland Browns pick at forty four, and

1290
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: then we'll have forty five, six more picks before the

1291
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I can do math, and we'll see which

1292
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: direction they're going here, hopefully whatever the Cowboys don't want.

1293
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: So does that mean I want them to pick a

1294
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: linebacker stay away from the safety group? Is that probably?

1295
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of a pipe dream, though, I

1296
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 1: think safety is probably where they're gonna go here. That's

1297
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: messed up. You think the Browns go safety here or

1298
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: ye think? Yeah, Yeah, I think it's their biggest need

1299
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: for sure. I think the next couple of picks between

1300
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: now and the Cowboys could be offense, but I think

1301
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: safety's the biggest need for the Browns here by far. Well,

1302
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: I'd like to see them linebacker though. Yeah. I'm right

1303
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: there with you, Jeff. Yeah, I'd like to see them

1304
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: leave that alone. Let those safeties hang out until the

1305
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: Cowboy pick. Anybody want to try to guess what the

1306
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys are thinking right now amongst the names that we're mentioning,

1307
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: any preferences that they might have, Dave, I think the

1308
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys are looking at their second round grades, however many

1309
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: of them they have, and thinking that they have more

1310
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: on the list than those that have been taken. And

1311
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: they've definitely they've lost some guys like Xavier McKinney. Obviously

1312
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: they've lost a few. But I think I can come

1313
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: up with eight to twelve names that they probably feel

1314
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: good about. And Jeff's fantastic arithmetic. Just let us know

1315
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: that there's only six to go, so the numbers add

1316
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: up that somebody they feel pretty good about should be there.

1317
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't count in Cleveland, that'd be seven to go.

1318
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: Oh excuse me, I'm sorry. Yeah, you remember remember the

1319
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: Browns last year in the second round they took Greedy Williams,

1320
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: who at one point was thought to be a very

1321
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: high first round pick. And could they do that again

1322
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: in the second round with an LSU There's no question.

1323
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: And you guys have got me convinced you're going to

1324
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: take a safety. Here's the commissioner to In the twenty

1325
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: twenty NFL Draft, Cleveland Brown select Grant Delpit, defensive back. Jerks.

1326
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: I think that would have been my favorite guy left

1327
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, So that would have gotten to be

1328
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: real excited. That would have been, to me, a great

1329
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: pick to get Grant Delpit. And we'd talk about, oh,

1330
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: his tackling is not real good, and I would have

1331
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: said yeah, But to me, he projects as a guy

1332
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: that's going to be a turnover guy. I ain't drafting

1333
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: him to tackle. I mean, he's gonna need to do it.

1334
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna need to do it at some point, but

1335
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: that's not why I want him on my team. He's

1336
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: the last line of defense, Dave. If your last line

1337
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: of defense can't bring people down, that's a problem. Yeah,

1338
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: but you know what he can do. He can step

1339
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: in front of passes and take him the other way,

1340
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: which is something the Cowboys haven't had in a while. Yeah,

1341
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: So that's probably we think, or at least I think

1342
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: that's a Cowboy potential target that goes off the board

1343
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: right there. And so now we're at forty five with

1344
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. They will be followed by Denver and Atlanta

1345
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: as we are ticking our way on down the board

1346
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: towards fifty one. Hey, Dane, does do the Browns know

1347
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: that they're in Big ten country? Because why do they?

1348
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: Why did? I mean, how many LSU players do they

1349
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: have at this point? My god? I mean they drafted

1350
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: Williams last year, they got the receivers, so Dell and Jarvis.

1351
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I know you want me to

1352
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: set you're setting me up for this. But LSU is

1353
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: a pretty good school. They produced some good talent down there.

1354
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean, well, actually, I think people have talked about

1355
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: this ironically. I mean, the New Orleans Saints are Ohio State,

1356
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: you know, the Ohio State Club, So I guess it

1357
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: only makes sense they're trading off. True, and it's just

1358
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: it's an Ohio thing. You know. The Bengals went with

1359
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Uh, but you know, Ohio just kind of

1360
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: put him on loan for two years. Yeah, we got

1361
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: him back here in Ohio. Now I want to delp it. Yeah,

1362
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,919
Speaker 1: that's I think. Delpit was definitely on my short list

1363
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: of like the four names that would get me the

1364
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: most excited. McKinney was the other one. He was one

1365
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: of them too. You seem a little down right now, Dave. Yeah,

1366
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and I get it. I'm gonna

1367
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get egged. Is the LSU Homer and I

1368
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: deserve it. That's fair, but it's accurate. I mean, he

1369
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: could have gone to any school, and I think it

1370
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: would be good value. I would have been just as

1371
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: excited about Davier McKinney. And now I think, you know,

1372
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: for those of us that have been waiting for the

1373
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: Cowboys to find that heir to Darren Woodson, it doesn't

1374
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: look likely to happen this year because, I mean, Antoine

1375
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: Winfield still around. We haven't heard any buzz about the

1376
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Antoine Winfield. Yeah, we don't think. We mean,

1377
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger's gone to I don't think they would look

1378
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: at Jeremy Chen at least not this early. So it's

1379
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: hard to see that starting caliber safety coming out of

1380
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: this draft. So now I turned my attention to defensive

1381
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: lineman and corner because those are the two positions that

1382
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: are still kind of hanging around well. And I think

1383
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: you the guy who gets me most excited is still

1384
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton, another LSU guy at fifty one. Jeff, you're

1385
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: shaking your head, but I think fifty one for Christian

1386
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: Fulton would get me extremely excited. Oh no, me too.

1387
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: I was I was communicating behind the scenes there. I

1388
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: thought you were. I thought you were reacting. No, no, no.

1389
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: At pick forty five, we have lost another safety. The

1390
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers take Antoine Winfield Junior. And so I

1391
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: agree with you guys right now. I think if you're

1392
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: looking at the board, you're probably being pushed more towards

1393
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: the defensive line and you're being pushed towards corner there

1394
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, we got Trevon Diggs out there, you

1395
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: got Christian Fulton out there. I'm keeping an eye on

1396
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 1: Zach Bond, who is my best player available. And then

1397
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 1: on defensive line, Jordan Elliott, Justin, Mattabecke, aj Epanessa. There's

1398
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: still names there. So the Cowboys knew they were gonna

1399
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: lose a bunch of their guys waiting out. The teams

1400
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: aren't gonna cooperate with whatever you want as the draft

1401
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: goes on. But yeah, you've got you got a handful

1402
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: of safety's gone. Xavier McKinney, Grant Delpit, Antoine Winfield, Kyle

1403
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: Dugger all off of the board at this point. And

1404
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,560
Speaker 1: so we'll see which direction they're going to go. But

1405
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: if like cornerback, defensive line is where at least my

1406
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: eyes keep going on the board for them, did we

1407
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 1: we keep excuse me, do where we keep talking about

1408
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: though that if they got wiped out, that Diggs was

1409
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: gonna be their guy. I mean, was that you guys

1410
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,799
Speaker 1: talking and talking about that potentially if they got completely

1411
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: if the guy so to me, Yeah, the guys like Yo, Diggs, Bond,

1412
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if they go defense, those and those guys

1413
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: are there, I mean, that's great. I'm feeling great right

1414
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: now about that. We're just trying to fight through this

1415
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: little mini depression of the safeties going off the board.

1416
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 1: But there's still plenty of names that you like here,

1417
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: let me, I do worry about the Bears though, take

1418
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: him Diggs, I do. I was gonna be I'll be

1419
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: the optimist for a second. And it's kind of the

1420
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 1: same line as Kyle Dugger. What I said when the

1421
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 1: Patriots drafted him is I think, you know, we argued

1422
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: about Antoine Winfield earlier. A lot of us really like him.

1423
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: We have no indication that the Cowboys did so. Inside

1424
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys war room, they might view Antoine Winfield

1425
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: going as a win in which I don't agree with that,

1426
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: but sure they view him possibly as you know, they're

1427
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: cheering that because they're saying, yes, keep pushing Trevon Diggs

1428
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: down the board. That's a okay. So Antoine Winfield going

1429
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: to Tampa is a loss for me, but I'm not

1430
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: sure it's a loss for the Cowboys front office. Do

1431
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 1: you think Tampa's GM's daughter is really excited about the pick.

1432
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 1: She was just hugging her dad. She looked like she

1433
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 1: was about nine years old. Do you think that she

1434
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: knows who Antoine Winfield is and she made a big fan,

1435
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: big fan of way Antoine Winfield. She's hoping they don't

1436
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: lose their house. You know, I don't think she's thinking

1437
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 1: about that either. He's a commissioner. The Denver Broncos select

1438
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: kJ Hambler wide receiver Penn State. There you go. Yeah,

1439
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: if you watch Drew Locke play at the end of

1440
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: the year, you know it's time to drop forty burgers

1441
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: in Denver. So that is a nice That's that's not

1442
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: my top receiver available. He would have been my one

1443
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: two third receiver a bit available. But you totally understand

1444
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: the appeal of kJ Hamler at Penn State under five nine,

1445
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 1: under one hundred and eighty pounds. But the speed, the acceleration,

1446
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: the fits that he gives guys that are trying to

1447
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: stay in front of him when he's running routes, kJ

1448
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,560
Speaker 1: Hamler is gonna be a fun addition in Denver and

1449
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: for a route runner like Jerry Judy and for your

1450
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: big receiver in Courtland Sutton having the speed threat lined

1451
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: up out there with them, man, that's a lot of fun. Well,

1452
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: last year's first round pick, Noah Fan, you add him

1453
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: to the mix and all of a sudden, this offense,

1454
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: if you can protect Drew Locke, yeah, I think John Ellaway,

1455
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: former quarterback, he's looking at this offense and smiling about

1456
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: the potential. He's got a lot of drops though, right,

1457
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: a lot of drops. He dropped up believe seventeen percent

1458
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: of his catchaball passes. And I don't I don't think

1459
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: as his hands are bad. It's just he is a

1460
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: guy that's always on the move, so he was looking

1461
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: to run before he finishes the catch. I think it's

1462
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 1: more of a focus issue with him. But the blur speed,

1463
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: that's what you're drafting here, before and after the catch.

1464
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: He has the potential to be uh, he's not. I

1465
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna have a lot of singles, a

1466
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: lot of doubles. But look at his triples, look at

1467
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 1: his home runs. He is going to put up some

1468
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: big time numbers. Without speed. It's steal bases too. There

1469
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: you go. If you could do that in football, he

1470
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,560
Speaker 1: would steal bases. It is now the Atlanta Falcons on

1471
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 1: the clock and their pick is in. I love the

1472
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 1: second and third round that I'm telling you. I love

1473
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: the clock getting shorter. Yeah, it's outstanding. I got these

1474
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: teams one minute is what they ought to do. We'll

1475
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: have some fun then, all right. Rapid fire, Yeah, just

1476
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: rapid fire. This thing. Let's see how good we are

1477
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 1: with our analysis, stats and hats. I've been meaning to

1478
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: tell you guys about stats and hats about for a

1479
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 1: long time. Stats and hats have been American made with

1480
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: pride since eighteen sixty five and are still the official

1481
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: crown of all self respecting Cowboys. Find your Stetson hat

1482
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,759
Speaker 1: at shop dot Dallas Cowboys dot com or at Stetson

1483
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,719
Speaker 1: dot com. Today we'll be coming back with the Atlanta

1484
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: Falcons pick, getting closer and closer to fifty one where

1485
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are picking. You're listening to the twenty twenty

1486
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft on one oh five three The Fan

1487
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. As we continue here on

1488
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: the internet side of things, and Marlon or excuse me,

1489
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 1: kJ Hammler. The last pick here for the Denver Broncos

1490
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield Junior. Before that, Grant Delpit. So you have

1491
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of options here coming up

1492
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 1: for the Falcons. The Jets, Steelers bear so five picks

1493
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: until the or four picks until the Cowboys make a selection.

1494
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: But is this a chance here for the Falcons to

1495
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: go with a defensive tackle here? I know that's kind

1496
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: of one of their picks. They could go a wide receiver.

1497
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: They didn't necessarily address that yesterday whenever Cede Lamb was

1498
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 1: on the board. But maybe they don't see Julio as

1499
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: maybe the same guy, or at least they want to

1500
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: plan for the future there and give him some help.

1501
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: What did the line for the Falcons? Lucky Photo is

1502
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: a name to keep on the Yeah, absolutely, Dan, You're

1503
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: you're doing a great job right now. That absolutely that

1504
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 1: if you talk to the Falcons. You know, one of

1505
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 1: those names that they kept bringing up. I was asking

1506
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 1: about a million guys and they was like, what do

1507
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: you think about Futo? And I'm like, well, you know,

1508
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 1: like he plays big man, lateral, gets outside and all.

1509
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, what do you have? And mim said, well,

1510
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it like a second third round. Oh,

1511
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: he's more of a second round kind of guy, you know.

1512
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, I this this seems like a very very

1513
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: good uh fit for them. You know, Tommy d Tommy

1514
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: de Mitchrof he just kind of takes his guys. He

1515
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: doesn't care what round or not. You know, he just

1516
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 1: you like my guy? Great if you don't like my guys,

1517
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: So what you know kind of a thing. So yeah,

1518
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: Futo would be a guy that I would definitely keep

1519
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: an eye on here with Falcons, pick, I just want

1520
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: to fast forward to fifty one. Don't take a dB.

1521
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 1: You know, the weights alone. The weight is what makes

1522
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: it fun because we got to sit here and sweat

1523
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: these out. And that's I mean, shoot, I spent twenty

1524
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: I spent a half hour convinced the Falcons we're gonna

1525
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: draft Calavon Chason last night. Maybe they go pass rush here,

1526
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: Curves Weaver, I think you have to go pass rush

1527
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: here if you're the Falcons. I mean, everybody I know

1528
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: that's connected to the Falcons was saying that's their number

1529
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: one need. And honestly, I think did not get any

1530
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 1: pressure on anybody last year by any means no, And

1531
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: it looks like Tack McKinley's on his way out. They

1532
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:24,560
Speaker 1: did sign fil Dante Fowler, Vic Beasley's no in Tennessee.

1533
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, pash Rushers definitely near the top of the list. Well,

1534
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: you've got guys like Mattabeke who's also there, Jordan and

1535
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: Elliott out of Missouri, another prospect Neville Gallimore going along

1536
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: with Lucky Foe two that you guys mentioned you could

1537
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: throw Marlon Davidson maybe in that mix. I know he's

1538
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: kind of a tweener either interior or a defense or

1539
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 1: excusement or an edge at the same time, played a

1540
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: little bit of both at Auburn. But I mean there's

1541
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: plenty of these individual I guess pass rushers, defensive lineman

1542
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,839
Speaker 1: in general that are gonna put pressure on the quarterback

1543
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: here kind of that sweet spot. Would you talked about

1544
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: the sweet spot of safeties, Brian in this middle part

1545
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: of the second round, you can say the same thing

1546
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: about defensive tackle. Yeah, I mean that's I was looking

1547
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: down at these guys. I mean it said Mattabeke, Elliott Gallimore,

1548
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: James Lynch. I know people are talking about James Lynch,

1549
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: stop playing in but playing defensive tackle from Baylor. So

1550
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: I mean there's some there's a sweet spot, but I

1551
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 1: think it's probably a little bit of a round later

1552
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 1: for these guys. But you know, hey, some people might say, well,

1553
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: we're not going to get back around to these guys.

1554
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 1: We got to do it right now. And then when

1555
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: you look at the Jets, the Steelers, and the Bears,

1556
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: so now you're starting to narrow it down because you've

1557
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: still got those defensive minds that we talked about for

1558
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys that are still on the clock, are still

1559
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: on the board. Rather with Digs, Fulton, Bond, who are

1560
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 1: all still available. If the Falcons go with somebody different here,

1561
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: then that even includes the chance that all three of

1562
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: those names are available when it comes around. Yeah, it

1563
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: looks like the commissioner is going to tell us who

1564
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: they're going to take right here. I know we're still

1565
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:06,560
Speaker 1: on dot com. The twenty twenty NFL Draft continues on

1566
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five three The Fan.

1567
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. It's Marlin Davidson, the defensive end

1568
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: out of Auburn, going to the Atlanta Falcons at number

1569
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 1: forty seven, So there are three picks left before the

1570
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Go ahead Dane and say, hey, Jeff asked

1571
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: me who I had the Falcons taken to my mon craft.

1572
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler with Dallas Cowboys dot Com, our finest scout

1573
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: and all the land, along with Brian brought Us and

1574
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: Dave Hellman, Kyle Yeoman's Jeff cavnot twenty five three The

1575
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 1: Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Dane who'd you have

1576
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: the Falcons taken there? In the second round, I had

1577
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: Marlin Davidson, a defensive tackle who could beat that jumbo

1578
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: defensive end for the Falcons can do a lot of things,

1579
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: so I thought a natural fit for them. That one

1580
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: of those names I heard, along with Lucky Folk too,

1581
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 1: along with a few other ones. Marlin Davidson a good fit.

1582
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 1: After they decided to pass on defensive line in the

1583
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: first round, j Tarrell at a clumpse in the corner,

1584
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: they go defensive line now here in the second with

1585
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: that quote unquote other defensive lineman out of Auburn, but

1586
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: a guy who had a big time senior season along

1587
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: with Derek Brown, I had. So I struggled with him

1588
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: a little bit on tape because I was watching him

1589
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: stand up and play defensive end on a four man line,

1590
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at him like that guy looks like

1591
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: a three technique to me, and so I just I

1592
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: struggled with him a little bit. You saw the power,

1593
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: you saw what guys would like about him, but he

1594
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: looked like he was out of position to me. So

1595
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: I had trouble projecting him and I went with a

1596
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: two three. But is this about where you were about

1597
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: where you had him, Dane, Yeah, I thought there was

1598
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 1: a chance he could sneak into the late first. You know,

1599
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: a team like the Patriots or you know, when they

1600
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: look at scheme and what they're looking for, that inside

1601
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: outside versatility, some teams really value that. But a little

1602
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 1: surprised that. You know, we haven't heard aj Epenessa's name right,

1603
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: He's still floating around there. Marlon Davidson a good player though,

1604
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: and put up double digit tackles for loss this past year,

1605
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: and they let him rush off the edge at three

1606
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: hundred pounds and he did a real nice job. So

1607
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: this for me is shaping up right now is the

1608
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks pick is in and they picked Texas tech

1609
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: linebacker Jordan Brooks in the first round. So Seattle does

1610
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: not care what your rankings are. They're going to pick

1611
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,879
Speaker 1: their guys. They're on the clock now. Then we'll have Pittsburgh,

1612
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,560
Speaker 1: then we'll have Chicago, then we'll have the Cowboys. And

1613
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: for me, I'm looking at Zach Bond. I'm looking at

1614
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton, the cornered LSU and Trevon Diggs the corner

1615
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: at Alabama, and I'm zeroed in on three names. Whether

1616
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 1: that's smart or not, here's a commissioner the forty eighth

1617
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 1: pick to the Seattle Seahawks. With the forty eighth pick

1618
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,879
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select

1619
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: Darryl Taylor, defensive end, Tennessee. Okay, that's another guy that

1620
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 1: I kind of liked. Darryl Taylor. I thought in the

1621
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: second or third round, I thought that that was a

1622
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: guy that's kind of a full sized defensive end. He

1623
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: plays with some power, He shows you a little something

1624
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. I think Daryl Taylor is a

1625
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: nice prospect, but he is a fake pen throw for

1626
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 1: me because I'm sitting here looking at my best player

1627
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: available being a linebacker slash edge and a couple of

1628
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: the other ones being corners, and I'm wanting them to

1629
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: hold on for the Cowboys and then have them make

1630
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: that pick. But Darryl Taylor, Dane Burglar Scouting Report, a

1631
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: guy that looks the part. When you talk about a

1632
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: pass rusher, if you're gonna build one, it would look

1633
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 1: similar to Daryl Taylor. You just wish you would let

1634
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: it loose a little more. When you watch his tape,

1635
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: he just leaves you wanting a little more. So the

1636
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: idea of Darryl Taylor excites me. The tape in the

1637
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: production didn't necessarily excite me as much. Yeah, he is right.

1638
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. He is absolutely right about this guy,

1639
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, And I think there's more power here than

1640
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: there is anything else, you know. I mean, he will

1641
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 1: not guys back, He'll hold the point of attack. I

1642
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 1: did see him run some balls down from the back

1643
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: side with this guy. But yeah, you're just he's another

1644
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: of those guys you're just kind of waiting for him

1645
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 1: to really turn it loose. And but man, he's got

1646
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: the body type to do it well, and he's starting

1647
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: to turn it loose because he's growing into the position.

1648
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 1: His first two years or twenty sixteen twenty eighteen, his

1649
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: first two healthy full seasons, he had fifty three total pressures.

1650
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,560
Speaker 1: Last year he had forty four alone. And this is

1651
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 1: like we kind of talked about earlier, Like Jeff said

1652
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 1: a moment ago, Seattle must have really liked this guy

1653
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: because they traded a third to move up and get him.

1654
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 1: So the fact that they're so impressed with the fact

1655
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 1: of giving a third round pick to move up just

1656
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: a couple of spots to select him at forty eight.

1657
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: Either they were worried somebody else was going to come

1658
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: and snag him, or they just really are sold on

1659
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 1: the power this guy brings because he's a brute force guy.

1660
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm telling you the last couple of years, Seattle is

1661
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: the team that strikes me as we don't care what

1662
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 1: the world thinks about these guys. This is what we

1663
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: think because LJ. Collier sneaking into the first round, Jordan

1664
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: Brooks this year in the first round, the tech linebacker,

1665
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: and then Darryl Taylor right there. They don't care what

1666
01:21:56,160 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: you think. Yeah, they're picking there guys. My intern n

1667
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,759
Speaker 1: doesn't care at all. Best story, Can we Okay, I'm Jeff.

1668
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: Jeff did a great job of laying out a short list,

1669
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: but can we try to zero in on pick fifty one? Here?

1670
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to Diggs. I'm sweating Chicago right now. We're

1671
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: we're not even going to talk about other options. Well,

1672
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know their interest level

1673
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: in Fulton, but I actually like the player that Fulton

1674
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 1: is today more than the player Diggs is today. But

1675
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: I totally get the I have them right next to

1676
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,719
Speaker 1: each other. I totally get the appeal of Trevon Diggs,

1677
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to forget about Zach Bond. I'm

1678
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 1: not going to figure about Justin Matabek. Absolutely no, No,

1679
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 1: I think there's a great list of guys there. Yeah,

1680
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 1: I'm totally psyched out. But me personally, I'm just being

1681
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,759
Speaker 1: selfish right now, which I usually am. On this program.

1682
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: You are, and so I you know, if I get

1683
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: a chance to get my my like eighteenth best player

1684
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: off my board, my top fifty one, and it's hit

1685
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: this guy. Absolutely, you said, I get my eighth best

1686
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: player last night, my eighteenth best player today. Yeah, come on,

1687
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,440
Speaker 1: bring it on in a position that it could absolutely

1688
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: they can use. Yeah. I don't disagree at all. I

1689
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,560
Speaker 1: just wonder in the in the interest of being a

1690
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: devil's advocate, I mean, they would have taken a pass

1691
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: rusher if they hadn't had Ceedee Lamb fall in their laps.

1692
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: So is that a possibility? I think I think they

1693
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: had interest in Darryl Taylor. It's obviously not possible anymore. Um.

1694
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 1: I see Julian o'quara's name sitting there. I see a J. E.

1695
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: Panessa still hanging around. Uh, this is a good spot

1696
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: to be in. There's Neville Neville Gallimore, how about that.

1697
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean the same thing with Matt Matta Bouquet. I

1698
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: just don't. I don't know if I'm ready to better

1699
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: than like Gallimore. I'm not ready to take a defensive

1700
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: tackle of fifty one me personally. But I wonder if

1701
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: we can rule it out just because it's not what

1702
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: we would do they I don't. I don't think the

1703
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 1: player is there to be interested. But anything to the

1704
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 1: talk they've been doing about center, about Peter King talking about, hey,

1705
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 1: maybe Ruise at the end of the first Cowboys trying

1706
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: to move back, you could get this. I mean that's

1707
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: why I was. I don't mind Cushion Berry got him

1708
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: as a two three? Yeah, how about Matt Hennessey. I

1709
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: have Hennessey better. I mean, there's the same round, but

1710
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: I have him better. I just think he's a better

1711
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: athlete than Cushion Berry. Cushion Berry is kind of a

1712
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 1: wide base catch stare long. I'm with you, but yeah,

1713
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 1: he's But I just like Hennessy's athletic ability a little

1714
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 1: bit better. You know. That's kind in the Cowboys run game,

1715
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: it seems like they ask a lot of their center

1716
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 1: athletically reach. I don't know how Cushionberry necessarily fits schematically,

1717
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: but I do like the player. So the pick is

1718
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: in for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Here's the commission either getting

1719
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: cheered or booed. With the forty ninth pick in the

1720
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL Draft, Pittsburgh Steelers select Chase Claypool, receiver. Interesting. So, uh,

1721
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: Claypool phenomenal. I mean, you want to talk about the

1722
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 1: size and the athletic ability at the combine. Chase Claypool

1723
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards at Notre Dame last year. He's

1724
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: a phenomenal athlete. I had my concerns on tape watching

1725
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: him against press coverage and the way that he uses

1726
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: that big old body that he's got in terms of

1727
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 1: letting people move into the sideline. But end of the

1728
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,440
Speaker 1: second round, for that size and that level of athleticism,

1729
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: I think it's it's tough to fight that too hard. Dane,

1730
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,679
Speaker 1: what did you think about Claypool? Well, and historically speaking,

1731
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: the Steelers have been such a good drafting team when

1732
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: it comes to receive. On Day two, look at just

1733
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 1: In Juju Smith Schuster and your guy last year from Toledo,

1734
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 1: James Washington, h Emmanuel Sanders at one point, uh, the

1735
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown at one point that they have been really

1736
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: drafting receivers outside the second round or outside the first

1737
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: round has been a strength to this h this organization,

1738
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: and they see something in Claypool to take him over

1739
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: some of these other receivers that are still on the board.

1740
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: Which is interesting, but I mean you set it up

1741
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: Jeff six to four, two hundred and thirty eight pounds,

1742
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: four four speed. But in terms of his route running,

1743
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: his releases a little vanilla, you know, nothing really to

1744
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: get excited about as a separator. But he'll go up

1745
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: and get the football, he'll run past you. And this

1746
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 1: is a guy who twenty five tackles, big time special

1747
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: teams player. Uh, that's gonna you know, the offensive coordinator

1748
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 1: and the special teams coordinator, they might be duking it

1749
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: out to see who gets to use this guy more. Well,

1750
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell the offensive coordinator he wins if I

1751
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: think so, you want to put my guy on one

1752
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: of your special teams. Cool, don't interrupt my meetings. Thanks. So,

1753
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears are on the clock at fifty. We

1754
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 1: are one pick away from the Dallas Cowboys at fifty one,

1755
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 1: and I think you're just kind of sit there and

1756
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: let the draft come to you. To me, it looks

1757
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: really good right now with guys like Christian Fulton, Treva

1758
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: on Dig, Zach Bond, Justin Matabeekee, Jordan Elliott, Ajpin Sa

1759
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: Julie Allen Johnson. We haven't mentioned his No, Yeah, I

1760
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: mean he I guess no. I know that a lot

1761
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: of people are really really high on him. He wasn't

1762
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: for me. I've got him in the third because I

1763
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: actually I didn't trust him in man coverage. But here's

1764
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: fifty for the Bears. Here's he's not going to be

1765
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,719
Speaker 1: your problem for much longer. In the twenty twenty NFL Draft,

1766
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears select Jalen Johnson. All Right, to me, that's

1767
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: a that's a dream come true for me because he

1768
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: was just a guy that wasn't for me. I understood

1769
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 1: the appeal of the athletic ability, and maybe the Cowboys

1770
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 1: do run a cover three scheme, so maybe it would

1771
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: have been a fit. He just wasn't for me in

1772
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 1: terms of his fluidity and man coverage when I watched him.

1773
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: But Jayalen Johnson, the Utah cornerback to the Bears. The

1774
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys are on the clock, will set you up for

1775
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: that pick. But Dane, tell us what you thought about

1776
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: Jaylen Johnson. There's nothing amazing about what he offers. He's just,

1777
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 1: I think, a solid player. I don't think he has

1778
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 1: any major weaknesses, doesn't have a ton of mental mistakes.

1779
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: He'll be a little over aggressive at times. Not the

1780
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,759
Speaker 1: biggest guy, not the fastest, but just a solid player.

1781
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: Can play inside, outside, can play man, can play zone,

1782
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: and a real They call him a professional at Utah

1783
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: because the way he carries himself. So I think just

1784
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: a solid pick here for Chicago is going to step

1785
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 1: in compete for a starting role as a rookie. All

1786
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 1: right around the horn, Dallas Cowboys on the clock at

1787
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: fifty one. I think the way I want to do

1788
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 1: this is everybody, you get one name for that you

1789
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: would like and we'll go around the room and we'll

1790
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 1: start with Dave Hellman, one name that you would love

1791
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 1: to see his name called here. I'm gonna I'm gonna

1792
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,879
Speaker 1: go out of my I'm gonna fix my Homer reputation

1793
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 1: because if I'm picking one guy I'm fine with Trevon Diggs.

1794
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm a okay with that's he's a rare guy and

1795
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: he I mean, he doesn't have the most freakish athleticism

1796
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 1: in this draft, but to be able to do the

1797
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,520
Speaker 1: things that he does at his size, it's really impressive.

1798
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 1: And to put him in a room with a guy

1799
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 1: like Al Harris, who's played cornerback at the highest level,

1800
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: you'd like to think you can coax some pretty good

1801
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 1: production out of him. I know his tape's not perfect.

1802
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people judge him based on

1803
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: what happened against LSU, which is not very fair because

1804
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 1: LSU did that to a lot of people. And I'm

1805
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: perfectly comfortable drafting him at this value. How boys have

1806
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 1: to pick in here's the I talked too long. Sorry,

1807
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 1: all of us in the nationale Football League extend our

1808
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 1: sincere condolences to Dak Prescott, whose brother Jason passed away yesterday. Dak,

1809
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 1: our thoughts are with you and your family. Some of

1810
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: my best memories growing Oh, they're not going to announce

1811
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 1: the pick. That was just the commissioner offering the condolences

1812
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 1: to the Prescott family. So we was nice that and

1813
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 1: we'll continue around the horn. Add one name to the

1814
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 1: name we've already heard from Dave with Trevon Diggs, Kyle

1815
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeoman's well, I think they'll go Digs here because of

1816
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:07,719
Speaker 1: the returnability and the fact that he was the highest

1817
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: rated press corner out of the entire class. But I

1818
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: would like Christian Fulton here. I think they'll go with Diggs,

1819
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 1: and I'm totally okay with it, But I think I

1820
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 1: just think Fulton is He's higher on my board. I

1821
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 1: liked him a little bit more, so just to add

1822
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 1: the name to it, I would say Fulton, Dane Brugler.

1823
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: Add a name to that list and tell us if

1824
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 1: you prefer one that's already named. No, I mean, if

1825
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 1: I'm adding someone to the list and you know, we

1826
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 1: say bond yet, um, you know a player who can

1827
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 1: play linebacker and give you rush. But I mean this

1828
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: all comes back to Trevon Diggs, a player that if

1829
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: the first sixteen picks played out a certain way, the

1830
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys were considering him at number seventeen and so preach

1831
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 1: if they're able to get him a fifty one, that

1832
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 1: would be uh, you know, kind of an ideal scenario

1833
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 1: for the first two rounds for this team. Brian just

1834
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: signing stay. I mean, it's my eighteenth best player on

1835
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: the board day It's absolutely right. If they were to

1836
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 1: wipe out situation, they probably would have taken him. If

1837
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 1: they couldn't move, he was a guy they were going

1838
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: to consider. I think they got very fortunate here that

1839
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: the board fell the way it did. There's a lot

1840
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: of great second round players here, guys that very well

1841
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: have been first round players. So yeah, I'm being very selfish. Fulton.

1842
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 1: I like him, but I think Diggs is a better player.

1843
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 1: And if Diggs were the pick, when he got to Alabama,

1844
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: he was playing wide receiver. So you're looking at it

1845
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 1: at a guy that if if they get him one,

1846
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: it's possible it's the best player on their board again,

1847
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: which would work out great that this time it falls

1848
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 1: into a big position of need. And two, I think

1849
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: a guy who's only played cornerback for three years, if

1850
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 1: he ends up being the pick, so what if he's

1851
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 1: not gonna beat out Cheeto or Anthony Brown or Jordan

1852
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 1: Lewis on day one, you'd be looking at the next

1853
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: four years with him. Now, this is a yeah, this

1854
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 1: is a long term pick. If he's not a starter

1855
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 1: day one. I'm not worried about it, because that's not

1856
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 1: why you cornerbacks as badly as just to restock that position. Well.

1857
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: He also uses his wide receiver experience to outsmart wide receivers.

1858
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: Now you could see it on tape. He's very good

1859
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 1: at kind of at least seeing the field, seeing what's

1860
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: gonna happen, and the reacting very quickly. So I think

1861
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 1: overall this would be a fantastic pick if that's into

1862
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 1: who they end up going with. Yeah, we've got ourselves

1863
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 1: pigeonholed in here, which is like the exact opposite at

1864
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 1: least of our broadcast yesterday when we're sitting there watching

1865
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 1: going there is it's not gonna be lamb. It should

1866
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 1: be good be but it's not gonna be. And so

1867
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 1: now we've set the expectation that the Trevon Diggs pick

1868
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 1: is coming. Bond would be a good they would pick here.

1869
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 1: They have to be happy that the board fell the

1870
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: way it did. But man, there are names that you're

1871
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 1: least at least you're having to go, Wow, that guy's there,

1872
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, having to have that that should we go

1873
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 1: this way, should go that way. I just think Diggs

1874
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 1: is too high on their board. I just that's just

1875
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: kind of how I feel about him right now. I

1876
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 1: think he's probably higher and it's more. But if you

1877
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 1: look at big picture, this team has no cornerbacks under

1878
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 1: contract until twenty twenty twenty one. Yeah, that's big, So

1879
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,640
Speaker 1: you've got to think about that long term. And now

1880
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: you don't have to snag another corner later in the draft,

1881
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 1: even if they do go corner here. I know, you know,

1882
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 1: somebody y'all have talked about, you know, Digs's length gets

1883
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 1: him in trouble because he relies on it too much.

1884
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 1: But like I said, man, this guy's got thirty three

1885
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 1: inch arms, Like I like the the measurables are very impressive.

1886
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,679
Speaker 1: And it's at pick fifty one. I'm very fine rolling

1887
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 1: the dice on him developing a little bit more. They've

1888
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 1: got the pick in we are just waiting for the

1889
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 1: announcement of who that pick is, and we are sort

1890
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 1: of zoomed in on who we hope it is. Which man,

1891
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: if they make that pick and it's one that we're

1892
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 1: all happy with. Can you think of the last time

1893
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:51,599
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys had picked two players in the draft

1894
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: and you went, hey, that's exactly who I would have picked. Yeah, No,

1895
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's I know. I was trying to think,

1896
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: now they're gonna bus there's no there's some Yeah, there's

1897
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 1: so many times we've sat there and gone, oh geez,

1898
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, why did they take that guy? We felt

1899
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: bad about the situation and trying to make it sound

1900
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 1: better than it was. I think I think, you know,

1901
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 1: if they get if they get Lamb and Digs out

1902
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 1: of this, I think the positivity about the direction they're going,

1903
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 1: I think is very very good with this draft so far. Yeah,

1904
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 1: so we are seeing Mike McCarthy, but he's not in

1905
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: his seat. It says Mike McCarthy head coach. But it's

1906
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: just a chair sitting there, and there's Jerry But here

1907
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: comes to Dallas Cowboys pick at number fifty one, with

1908
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 1: the fifty first pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft,

1909
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys select Trey Von Diggs, defensive back Alabama. Hey,

1910
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:43,639
Speaker 1: here you go, I think, and there's a decent chance

1911
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 1: they picked their best player available two picks in a row.

1912
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 1: Is that is a guy that we talked about. If

1913
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 1: they were wiped out at seventeen, there's a chance that

1914
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 1: was the pick. It falls into position of need. It's

1915
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 1: a guy that they really really liked. I think a

1916
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:56,719
Speaker 1: lot of Cowboy fans are gonna be really really happy

1917
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 1: with this pick. You want to hit us with the

1918
01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 1: scouting report, Dane, this is a like we mentioned before,

1919
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:04,719
Speaker 1: a former receiver who likes to do receiver like things

1920
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: at the catch point. And look, if you're looking for

1921
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 1: the most technically refined corner, this is not your guy.

1922
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 1: But as an athlete, he moves really well. And you

1923
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 1: watch his tape Nick Saban and that staff kind of said,

1924
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 1: you know, don't worry about your pedal, don't worry about

1925
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 1: your footwork being perfect, just go be an athlete and

1926
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 1: go cover your guy. And that's exactly what he did,

1927
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:27,640
Speaker 1: and he did at a high level quite often. So

1928
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 1: again I think this in terms of value, this is

1929
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 1: tremendous value to get a player like this outside the

1930
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 1: top fifty, and a guy that, regardless of how we

1931
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 1: felt about him this, we know how high the Cowboys

1932
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 1: were on on him, and so to get him at

1933
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 1: this point just the awesome value for them. Guys, you

1934
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 1: don't see this guy out of balance, you know when

1935
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 1: you watch him play. I mean the d Dane painted

1936
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 1: a great picture of him. But I saw a guy

1937
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 1: that was an aware player. He's got the mirror skills

1938
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 1: and he's plays in ballants. You know. Usually sometimes you

1939
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 1: see quarters when they pedal, they turn and they drive

1940
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 1: and they're like kind of clunky. This kid's not clunky.

1941
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,640
Speaker 1: I mean he can move and be a position to

1942
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: keep himself in positions. Big, he's long, he attacks the football,

1943
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:12,679
Speaker 1: he's athletic. I think it's it's what the league wants

1944
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 1: at cornerback now, and it's a guy that the best

1945
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 1: football of his life is obviously going to be ahead

1946
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: of him as he's only played corner for three years

1947
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 1: and he's already got the tape of a guy that

1948
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 1: deserves to get picked in the top fifty. So it's

1949
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs going to the Dallas Cowboys at fifty one,

1950
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 1: and we will continue on as we march through the

1951
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 1: second round and into the third round. Here, you're listening

1952
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh five

1953
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 1: three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com bank. You're

1954
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com side of things, and

1955
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: we're also live on social now here on the Draft

1956
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 1: Show and Dallas Cowboys Social media's Kyle Yeoman's Jeff cavanaal

1957
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 1: Brian brought us Dave Hellman and the great Dane Brugler

1958
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 1: as Treyvon Diggs is your newest Dallas Cowboys. So now

1959
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,799
Speaker 1: the draft class consists of Seedee Lamb from Oklahoma Trayvon

1960
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 1: Digs from Alabama. I think that's a pretty solid first

1961
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 1: two picks, to say the least. Moving forward, I think

1962
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 1: I've yeah, I would go right ahead. I just I

1963
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 1: think you're plucking right from the very top of your board,

1964
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 1: and the fact that that lines up for you in

1965
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 1: the second round is that's awesome. It's a little bit

1966
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 1: of good fortune, and when you're picking from the top

1967
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 1: of your board, it's usually gonna turn out pretty well.

1968
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna turn out well, and then you also go ahead,

1969
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 1: Dave No. I just I got really scared about Diggs

1970
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 1: when we started hearing that he could be the first

1971
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 1: round pick. I think most of y'all would agree with me,

1972
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: But it's amazing how your opinion changes about a guy

1973
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 1: the further he falls down the board. The same thing

1974
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,680
Speaker 1: for aj Epinessa. I wouldn't want to touch him in

1975
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 1: the top thirty, but you're looking at him at fifty one.

1976
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 1: And now you look at Trevon Diggs starting experience in

1977
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 1: the SEC again. I mean I've said it five times already,

1978
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 1: Like he's just rare from a build standpoint, Like you

1979
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:57,560
Speaker 1: don't find cornerbacks that look like him very often, and

1980
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 1: you don't. It would be great if he is good

1981
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 1: enough to step in and start, but you don't need it.

1982
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 1: You've got three guys that can do it. And so

1983
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 1: that gives Al Harris and the rest of the Cowboys

1984
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 1: defensive coaches time to work with him. And this could

1985
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,560
Speaker 1: be an even better value next season when you do

1986
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 1: need him to start. I just you know, at this value,

1987
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 1: I really really like to pick a lot. This guy

1988
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,560
Speaker 1: has played in some big time games. I mean he

1989
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: has lined up in national championship games, playoff games. I

1990
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 1: mean he gets coached hard. At Alabama. You ever go

1991
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: to an Alabama practice, Nick Saban is yelling at these

1992
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 1: kids the whole time. Only Gary Patterson yells at his

1993
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 1: kids more over at TCU. I mean, these kids to

1994
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 1: go play a football game as a break for them.

1995
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 1: They I mean, that's what I like about those Alabama

1996
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: kids are a little banged up the way you know,

1997
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 1: they get banged up, beat up because they play a

1998
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 1: lot of football. But man, this kid, I think he'll

1999
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 1: come in here. He'll be competitive, and that's what we need.

2000
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 1: We need some quarterbacks. He'll be compet This kid won't

2001
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 1: let you run across the field and catch the ball

2002
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 1: on him. I mean that guy, it's gonna knock the

2003
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 1: ball down. He'll do that. And kind of going off

2004
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: of that, he's still level headed because he's been around

2005
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 1: a pedigree of a family member who's had success in

2006
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 1: the NFL. Of course, his brother Stefon Diggs, the wide

2007
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,720
Speaker 1: receiver who had a ton of success in Many Minnesota.

2008
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 1: And then turns around and he goes over to Buffalo.

2009
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:14,640
Speaker 1: We'll see what he does up in Buffalo. But this

2010
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 1: is it's a family that's used to success in the NFL.

2011
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 1: He's been in big time games. He's been a part

2012
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 1: of the bright lights. And I think this is just

2013
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 1: a brilliant pick for the Cowboys at fifty one. Now

2014
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 1: a pick has come since the Cowboys were on the

2015
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 1: clock of the Rams take cam Acres. They're running back

2016
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:37,520
Speaker 1: out of Florida State. As I guess the now replacement

2017
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 1: for Todd Gurley, who has departed and gone to Atlanta.

2018
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 1: As we continue here in this second round, Cowboys pick

2019
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 1: next at eighty two. But with the cornerback spot now

2020
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 1: solidified at least early in this part of the draft,

2021
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 1: now your attention shifts to safety, shifts to edge rusher.

2022
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:57,560
Speaker 1: What's now up on the priority list here? Yeah, I

2023
01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,679
Speaker 1: think you're all over. And by the way, Jalen Hurts

2024
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 1: goes to the Philadelphia Eagles, which to me makes all

2025
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 1: the sense in the world because the Philadelphia Eagles probably

2026
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 1: need to plan to play four to six games without

2027
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 1: their starting quarterback every year, and I think that that's

2028
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 1: a pretty good backup to have, where you've got a

2029
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 1: guy who's got the ability to help you with his

2030
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 1: feet to try to get by until Wentz is healthy again. Yeah,

2031
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 1: corner being addressed and wide receiver being addressed, which I

2032
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 1: know a lot of people didn't think was a need,

2033
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 1: but I did because you were missing a starter there,

2034
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 1: and yeah, and uh safety, defensive line, and you know,

2035
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 1: they seemed like they were showing some interest in the

2036
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,639
Speaker 1: linebackers at the top of this draft. Rybe even there

2037
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, probably looking all over the defense, just

2038
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:45,639
Speaker 1: not at and I think you still could look at corner. Yeah,

2039
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they double dipped at corner

2040
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 1: at all. I mean I know that. You know, Stephen

2041
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 1: Jones came on our station was talking about, well, a

2042
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 1: linebacker maybe not early, it's not a concern right now.

2043
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 1: I know for a fact they like Logan Wilson from

2044
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 1: from Wyoming. I do too. And you know, and you're

2045
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 1: talking about a guy that that could be. You know,

2046
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 1: he's kind of a throwbacks linebacker. He's always you know,

2047
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 1: he drops at cabbage and there's the ball, he's up. Oh,

2048
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 1: he's tackling a guy. He never misses tackles, you know.

2049
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 1: Willie Gay was another guy we talked about. Uh, you know,

2050
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 1: we've mentioned maybe that's the spot. There's I just feel

2051
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,640
Speaker 1: like now there's defensive ends, there's linebackers, and there's some

2052
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 1: safeties that they could even go. They can stay on

2053
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: that defensive side of the ball and be really really

2054
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 1: happy with that direction. I think defense is still where

2055
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,600
Speaker 1: you have to go here, and whether it's safety or

2056
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:34,719
Speaker 1: edge rusher, I still think there's gonna be some names

2057
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 1: available at eighty two as well. Then twenty twenty NFL

2058
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 1: Draft continued on one o five three The Fan and

2059
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Welcome back. It's Jeff Kavanaugh and

2060
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 1: Brian brought us from one oh five three the Fan,

2061
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:53,600
Speaker 1: along with Dane Brugler, Dave Hellman, and Kyle Yeoman's on

2062
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. A simulcaster that you have all

2063
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 1: your best friends with you right here as we do

2064
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. At fifty one, the Dallas Cowboys went

2065
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 1: with Trevon Diggs, the Alabama cornerback who we thought there

2066
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 1: was a chance in some circumstances he could have been

2067
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 1: picked at seventeen by the Cowboys. So I bet when

2068
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,719
Speaker 1: we get a press conference at the conclusion of today's round,

2069
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,799
Speaker 1: we will hear something similar to what we heard yesterday

2070
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 1: in terms of the dude was right there at the

2071
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 1: top of our board and we kind of had to

2072
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 1: pick him, and it falls into position a need for

2073
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:28,719
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. At fifty two, the Rams took Cam Akers,

2074
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 1: the Florida State running back, and at fifty three, the

2075
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles just took Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma quarterback, which to

2076
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 1: me makes a lot of sense. I had him more

2077
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 1: as a third round guy but I think of the

2078
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 1: guys you would hope to develop, he gives you a

2079
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:46,719
Speaker 1: chance to win games when he has to play, because

2080
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 1: you start using his legs and you make it hard

2081
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 1: for teams to defend. So Trevon Diggs to the Cowboys,

2082
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 1: cam Akers to the Rams, and Jalen Hurts to the

2083
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. Dane, how you like that pairing with Hurts

2084
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 1: in Philly? It is interesting? Um, And you kind of

2085
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:04,639
Speaker 1: set it up with you know, they have a quarterback

2086
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: who's really talented, but for him to start all sixteen games,

2087
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 1: you know that's the question mark. And so you bring

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01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: in Hurts for your number two. You got to change

2089
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: your offensive around a little bit because this is a

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01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:19,440
Speaker 1: player who anticipation wise, uh in terms of reading coverages,

2091
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 1: not exactly where you want. And so I think this

2092
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 1: is much earlier than I would have taken Jalen Hurts.

2093
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:26,760
Speaker 1: But he's the type of leader, the type of guy

2094
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:29,560
Speaker 1: you want your locker room, want your quarterback room. H

2095
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 1: And so I don't if I'm a Cowboys fan, am

2096
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 1: I do? I see this pick and say, yeah, you know,

2097
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 1: is that doesn't worry made that much? I mean that

2098
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 1: that's kind I would feel if I was a Dallas fan,

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01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 1: I was kind of hopeful that he would have got

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01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,799
Speaker 1: to Dallas in the third round. Yeah, I was interested

2101
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 1: a little. Yeah, I was interested and if he would

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01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 1: have done that if he'd been there, because you know,

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01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 1: I think Jerry Jones is you know, those Monday morning meetings.

2104
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 1: He comes in and he starts talking about, did you

2105
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 1: guys see the Ravens play last night? You know, and

2106
01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: and I know they're they're they're different. He's not the

2107
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 1: but but that kind of attack, you know, where you

2108
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 1: put pressure on defenses with the ability to run and

2109
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 1: the ball handling and stuff like that. You know. I mean,

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01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 1: he probably wishes his starting quarterback would do a little

2111
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 1: bit more of that, but he was always fascinated with

2112
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:16,560
Speaker 1: what was going on with that kind of scheme. We

2113
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 1: got the Buffalo Bills on the clock at fifty four.

2114
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 1: But we also have for you the secret audio of

2115
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs being drafted by the Dallas Cowboys, which is

2116
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:27,640
Speaker 1: always great. We love that that we get that for you.

2117
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:30,799
Speaker 1: So here it is Trevon Diggs being picked for the Cowboys.

2118
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:33,720
Speaker 1: Thank you, Strayvon. This is Will McClay with the Cowboys

2119
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 1: have somebody that wants to speak to you, dear, how

2120
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:44,679
Speaker 1: you doing cook? Hey, this is Jerry. How you gonna listen? Listen?

2121
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 1: We're I'm proud to tell you because I'm proud of

2122
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: it too. You've got a star on your helmet. Thank you,

2123
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: thank you. Well, I appreciate that alone. Well, I sure,

2124
01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm enjoy our time, our interview and talking to you

2125
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 1: and um, everybody or potential coaches, and we're all excited

2126
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 1: about that you're getting in here. And what we're were

2127
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 1: most excited about is the improvement that you can make. Everybody.

2128
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: The word is he can get better. He can get better. Now, now,

2129
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 1: remember what I told you. If anybody ever tells you

2130
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 1: that gives you something for nothing, they're lying to you.

2131
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:26,560
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna have to go to work, but

2132
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 1: if you go to work, you'll get something. Okay, you

2133
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 1: can do. Yes, I got your coach, hey, man, so

2134
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 1: pride your capital worker. Here's something. Um, here's your coach

2135
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 1: and he wants to skate with. I want to transfer

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01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 1: your Dray Vaughan for birthday? How you do? How are

2137
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 1: you doing right now? He congratulations on being the Dallas

2138
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 1: com do. Excited to have you soone. I apprecaid everything.

2139
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:55,759
Speaker 1: Thank you, they do me a favorite. You're a bummer

2140
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 1: with your family. God bless and just keep doing what

2141
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: your dog you just self Freddie and really look forward

2142
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 1: to working with Tea and went some championships. All right,

2143
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 1: Well man, do you take care of Thank you so much?

2144
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm gonna go with Will McClay and

2145
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy and try to not screw this up every day.

2146
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 1: And it sounds like it's Trayvon Diggs and not Treyvon

2147
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 1: like I've been saying. Oh I've been saying that too.

2148
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 1: Damn Trayvon. Is that Diggs? Okay? Confirmed? Trayvon Diggs cornerback

2149
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 1: for your Dallas Cowboys and aj Epinessa's slide ends at

2150
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo at number fifty four and Baltimore at fifty five.

2151
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 1: Is on the clock. I love when Jerry talks because

2152
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,920
Speaker 1: you never know where he's gonna meander two just like, yeah,

2153
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 1: we're happy to have you. And remember I told you

2154
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:49,760
Speaker 1: story nothing for free ever? Will all right, dude, Jerry voice, well,

2155
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 1: trey Von you remember no he went, Treyvon. You remember

2156
01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 1: I told you Netting's free. Somebody gives you a carton

2157
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:58,679
Speaker 1: of milk. You better believe they're gonna come back round

2158
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 1: two weeks from man and one something from you, probably

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01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,719
Speaker 1: pair of kick something like that. I'm a little scared

2160
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 1: right now. You just never heard your Jerry. It's very good,

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01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 1: it is great. Well, that is Arry. That's what's scary

2162
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 1: about it, Dave. You've been meaning to talk to you

2163
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 1: man facts to save you for about three weeks. Talk

2164
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 1: to you about a furlough. Please. That's not funny. That's

2165
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 1: not funny. That's really not And I apologize for that.

2166
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:24,560
Speaker 1: That was a terrible joke and I didn't mean it.

2167
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:28,600
Speaker 1: And I love everybody. Um okay. So aj Epanessa is

2168
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 1: off the board, and now we are looking at the

2169
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, who earlier in this draft took Patrick Queen

2170
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:37,599
Speaker 1: already linebacker out of LSU, and they are back up

2171
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 1: on the clock at fifty five. Who has got a

2172
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:44,639
Speaker 1: handle on what they may be looking at here? Running back? Sorry?

2173
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:47,640
Speaker 1: Go Dan, well along the lines of what you were

2174
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 1: just saying, what am I missing on? JK. Dobbins? Why

2175
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,120
Speaker 1: is he still around? I think that needs to be

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01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:54,720
Speaker 1: the pick, honestly, Dane, I'm right there. JK Dobbins to me,

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01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 1: was the best back in this draft, and I am

2178
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 1: shocked that he not shocked that the three Taylor Edwards,

2179
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 1: A Laire and Swift went ahead of him. I'm shocked

2180
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 1: cam Akers went ahead of them. Yeah, well, cam Akers

2181
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 1: to fifty two to the Rams, and you're still sitting

2182
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 1: here looking for Dobbins to come off the board. I

2183
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 1: think this is one of those Ravens picks that the

2184
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:19,519
Speaker 1: fact that he's still sitting here, you're looking up at

2185
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:21,600
Speaker 1: the board and saying, oh my gosh, he fell in

2186
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 1: our lap. Let's go ahead and pare Dobbins with mark

2187
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 1: Ingram in that backfield with Lamar Jackson and add some

2188
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 1: firepower to that offense that really doesn't need any Yeah.

2189
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 1: I wonder if you're Baltimore. I know they don't target

2190
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 1: their receivers a ton or as much as anyone else

2191
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 1: in the league, but with some of those guys available,

2192
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 1: maybe you look that way. But Mint is still there. Yeah.

2193
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 1: To Dane's point, you know what Baltimore has done consistently

2194
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 1: over the six years that I've been doing the draft.

2195
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 1: They take the guys I want, so they which means

2196
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 1: if I want them, obviously they must be good. So

2197
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 1: that means the Ravens are good at this and if JK.

2198
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:01,639
Speaker 1: Dobbins is that needed to come off the board quickly,

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01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 1: they'll probably be the team to do it because they

2200
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 1: love to snatch up the good players that just fall

2201
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 1: in their lap. I think the Ravens just take the

2202
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:12,560
Speaker 1: best guy available way more often than not. Honestly, I

2203
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 1: had that thought earlier. Today. It's like, man, Cowboys really

2204
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 1: had a Ravens moment with Ceedee Lamb and maybe not

2205
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 1: as big of a steal, but it feels like they

2206
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 1: did it again with Treyvon Diggs. Is like, Hey, if

2207
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 1: you none of y'all want these really good players that

2208
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 1: keep dropping midway through the round, we'll gladly take them. Yeah,

2209
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 1: So JK. Dobbins best back available, my guy, Zach Moss

2210
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 1: probably behind him, and we shall see how many running

2211
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 1: backs are going off the board and get I think

2212
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 1: eighty two is too far away to be cheering for

2213
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 1: positions or is it ever too far away or we

2214
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 1: just pulling for all for all offense? It's too far away,

2215
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 1: we got I mean, there's basically thirty picks until the

2216
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys are on the clock. I can't start worrying about

2217
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 1: that until like pick until probably the start of the

2218
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 1: third You don't have your shortlist ready. Everybody but Zach Bond.

2219
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 1: Let's just let's draft like that. Oh, that'd be great.

2220
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 1: I've got it. Honestly, it's fun I mean funny how

2221
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:08,680
Speaker 1: this works. I went Terrell Burgess if they and then

2222
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 1: they would have hit basically my exact draft that I

2223
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 1: would want, and that would match Dane's mock. You gave

2224
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 1: them dicks, didn't you. Let's make it happen. Let's let's

2225
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 1: speak it into existence. I think be great. I think yeah,

2226
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chin, I don't think he's have to wait much

2227
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:25,639
Speaker 1: longer here. He'll be a safety off the board. Ashton

2228
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,799
Speaker 1: Davis from Cal I think is another safety who belongs

2229
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 1: somewhere in the top seventy picks. But then Terrell Burgess,

2230
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 1: he I think he's the next safety to go and

2231
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: should be in the mix for the Cowboys next round.

2232
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm just a big fan of his ability to play

2233
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:41,080
Speaker 1: a lot of different spots. You know, you have to

2234
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 1: find him. He's got a similar number to one of

2235
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 1: his teammates. Yes, you don't know if you spend a

2236
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 1: whole half trying to find him. You're like going, oh,

2237
01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:51,880
Speaker 1: there he is, and then like, oh he made another player. Okay,

2238
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 1: then you gotta run it back. You know, Oh I

2239
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 1: missed him because I thought it was the other guy.

2240
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:57,680
Speaker 1: Now he's down at the line, now he's yeah. So no.

2241
01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 1: This is a guy though that when you talk about him,

2242
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 1: he's all over the field. He makes plays. You know,

2243
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 1: you could put him in coverage and things like that.

2244
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I like the I like the player there

2245
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:10,840
Speaker 1: at If you could get him to your pick in

2246
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:12,679
Speaker 1: the third round, I think that would be a huge get.

2247
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:14,680
Speaker 1: That would be a little I'm a little scared that

2248
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 1: the Dolphins of fifty six, who pick right after the Ravens.

2249
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 1: By the way, Baltimore's pick is in. We haven't had

2250
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 1: an announced yet, but I think the Dolphins could maybe

2251
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 1: go safety there. You talk about some of the picks

2252
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 1: that they've made. They picked up a corner and no

2253
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:29,640
Speaker 1: egg bnogady in the middle of the draft, and I

2254
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like the Dolphins could potentially snatch

2255
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: one of those guys. I don't know if it'll be

2256
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 1: specifically Terrell Burgess or Jeremy Chin, but I think they

2257
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 1: may at least look in that direction. Well, and Kyle,

2258
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 1: I think it's really important to have somebody on the

2259
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 1: show constantly try to bring the room down. And I

2260
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 1: always that I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah, we're out here

2261
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:53,720
Speaker 1: trying to get our safety and you're trying to send

2262
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 1: them all off the board. And I think if you

2263
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:57,720
Speaker 1: must think, you would think the new guy is like

2264
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 1: bright eyed and bushy tails. Yeah, he's just trying bush

2265
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 1: He's trying to kill everybody's mood hater right out of

2266
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:05,479
Speaker 1: the gate. Who would have thought, I'm just a realist guy.

2267
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 1: That's all it is. You know, Hey, as the resident realist.

2268
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm glad somebody's taken over for me. See, that's it.

2269
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 1: That's the reason it's Dave. Dave and I have spent

2270
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 1: too much time together over the past four months. Dave

2271
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 1: likes to have somebody try to push him around, So

2272
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 1: that's what you need to do. I think he misses

2273
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:25,120
Speaker 1: Brian doing that. So here is the Baltimore Baltimore Ravens pick.

2274
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 1: Here's the commissioner with the fifty fifth pick in the

2275
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL Draft for Baltimore Ravens select JK. Dobbins,

2276
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 1: running back Ohio State all right, Dane, you feel like

2277
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 1: you've been waiting way too long to do this, but

2278
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:44,760
Speaker 1: rip off his scouting report real quick. What are the

2279
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:47,240
Speaker 1: Ravens do. In the first round? They stay where they

2280
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 1: were and they got Patrick Queen. In the second round,

2281
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 1: they stay where they were, They got JK. Dobbins. Two

2282
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 1: terriffic players, Dobbins. Some guys were just born to play

2283
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 1: running back, and Dobbins is that guy. His ability to

2284
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 1: read and hit the whole at the perfect time is

2285
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 1: just a really unique skill. And then once he gets

2286
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 1: to the second level, he can make defenders miss. He's

2287
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 1: a reliable pass catcher of the backfield, just a really

2288
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 1: solid back. Who I mean, you look at the Ravens

2289
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 1: and that backfield with mark Ingram Lamar Jackson. You had JK.

2290
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 1: Dobbins to that mix. That's the makings of a pretty

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Speaker 1: fun offense. JK. Dobbins to the Ravens. The Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 1: are on the clock. Kyle is trying to get them

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Speaker 1: to take a player that the Cowboys want. It's a

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Speaker 1: back with the Dolphins pick as we continue on here.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the twenty twenty NFL Draft on one

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Speaker 1: oh five three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 1: And here we are on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com thing.

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01:53:59,880 --> 01:54:02,840
Speaker 1: I still believe we're still on the social sites up

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01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 1: until eight o'clock or so. But we could continue rolling

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Speaker 1: along here. In the back half of the second round,

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01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: Cowboys that made their selection, it was Trayvon Diggs now

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Speaker 1: j JK. Dobbins off of the board, Dolphins, Rams, Vikings, Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: and then the Ravens back up again within the next

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Speaker 1: five picks. So I mentioned safety here, you could also

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01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:25,639
Speaker 1: maybe throw in a corner. I know they did select

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01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 1: Noah Igbonogamy, but any needs out there, Dane that you

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01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 1: kind of see the Dolphins, maybe honey on here. This

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01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 1: is the Dolphins have so many needs. I mean, they

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01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 1: can go in a lot of different directions, but can

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01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:41,080
Speaker 1: we see a safety here? Maybe this is where maybe

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01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:46,200
Speaker 1: we could see Jeremy Chin and Nashton Davis. You know,

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01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 1: I think when you look at some of their needs.

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01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton, they went corn on the first so probably

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01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 1: not there. Could they go edge rusher, Curtis Weaver. Possibly?

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01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:57,760
Speaker 1: They have a lot of different directions they need to add.

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01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:01,200
Speaker 1: The Dolphins have fourteen picks in his draft, so they

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01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 1: are not going to be shy making picks over the

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01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 1: course of the night in tomorrow. What about interior defensive line,

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01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 1: because before the Cowboys picked, brought us and I were

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01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 1: kind of talking back and forth about some of those

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01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 1: d tackles that are still available. And you still have

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01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 1: Matta Bouque out there or Mattabek excuse me, Jordan Elliot's

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01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 1: still out there. Gallimore's their vote to Rae Kwon Davis

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01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 1: even if you wanted to throw that name into the mix,

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01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 1: A Brian, Are those some kind of guys that maybe

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01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:28,920
Speaker 1: Miami would be interested in? Yeah? The thing with Matta

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01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 1: Bouque Mattabike is that we you know, it's like we

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01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 1: watch the tape and see the tape and swatch him play, right,

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01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:39,880
Speaker 1: but what's behind the scenes, you know, is he interviewing

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01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 1: bad is he a bad character guy? I mean, there's

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01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:45,240
Speaker 1: things that we don't know about some of these players,

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01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 1: and you put him where you think he's going to be,

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01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, on the board, and give him his due,

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01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 1: But maybe there's something that is keeping him from being

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01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 1: selected at this time. So it looks like the commissioner

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01:55:57,160 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 1: the pick is in. The commissioner is reading it right now,

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01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:02,840
Speaker 1: so I will give it to you as we're going

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01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 1: along here, let's see it's a oh, the Dolphins take

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01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 1: ray Kuon Davis, defensive tackle from Alabama? Is who they take?

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01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:13,760
Speaker 1: All right, Dane Scouting report time on mister ray Kwon

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01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:18,720
Speaker 1: Davis here looks a lot better than he plays. I

2347
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 1: mean he's a monster because he's one of those tools

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01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 1: versus production kind of guys. Yeah, and I'm not even

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01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:27,600
Speaker 1: sure sure the tools are all that great. He just

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01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 1: looks great, but he's not the most agile player. I

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01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna give you a ton of pass rush.

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01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 1: His strength is going to be using that length, using

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01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 1: that size to take on multiple blocks clog up your

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01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 1: run lanes, and you need those guys. So not to

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01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 1: say this is a bad pick by any means, I mean,

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01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 1: I think he was not a first round pick here

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01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:49,800
Speaker 1: outside the top fifty. This is where he should have gone.

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01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 1: And I think the Dolphins are adding a player who

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01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: can be a solid run stuffer and maybe give you

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01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 1: a little bit of pass rush value. We'll see if

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01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:59,040
Speaker 1: he can develop that part of his game. Yeah, I

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01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 1: thought Kyle he played a lot better earlier than late.

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01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 1: You watch some late late games at Alabama, and he

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01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 1: was not very good, you know. And I sometimes he

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01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 1: won't stay square when he plays, He'll get turned, he'll

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01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 1: jump around blocks, you know, he'll lose his balance, he

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01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 1: struggles with quickness against him, you know. And I just

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01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm with Dane on this. So I was expecting a

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01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 1: better player, and it it just was that the more

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01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 1: film I watched, the more I just became disenchanted with

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01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,600
Speaker 1: the player though well. And I think the one part

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01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 1: of his game that he was consistent in, at least

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01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 1: in watching film was probably run stopping, correct. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that was really his go to, his

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01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 1: bread and butter of of what made him enticing in

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01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 1: the middle of the second round. He had seven sacks

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01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 1: in the past for USh his sophomore season, but after

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01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 1: that it was really kind of sparse in that regard.

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01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 1: Now we are going to go off of the social sites.

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01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 1: You can go online and go to the Cowboys app

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01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:54,880
Speaker 1: and then Dallas Cowboys dot com to watch the show

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Speaker 1: from here. Of course, we are continuing on one oh

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01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:01,320
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Speaker 1: I had a cold can. I was opening a twelve

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Speaker 1: pack this morning and one of you, Yeah, one of

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Speaker 1: is the twenty twenty NFL Draft with Jeff Kavanaugh. Prian

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Speaker 1: brought us, Dane Hellman, Dan Prougler, and Kyle Yeomanns. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back the Dallas Cowboys Cede Lamb in round one, tray

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01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:24,040
Speaker 1: Von Diggs, cornerback out of Alabama in round two. According

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01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:26,240
Speaker 1: to all five of us, I believe you would say

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01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 1: they are doing quite well in this NFL draft, the

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01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:33,160
Speaker 1: first one under new head coach Mike McCarthy. And we're

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01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 1: cruising along in this draft. Currently we are looking at

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01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:40,000
Speaker 1: number fifty seven. The La Rams will be making that

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01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:43,160
Speaker 1: pick as we creep our way towards eighty two and

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01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:46,280
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys next selection, where we still got some

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01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 1: players that we're cheering for to make it to eighty two.

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01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:51,200
Speaker 1: And this maybe this is gonna be the first year

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01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:53,200
Speaker 1: where they just draft all of the guys that we

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01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:55,480
Speaker 1: want them to draft, and everybody's in agreement and it

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01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 1: turns out none of them can play, and we don't

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01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,400
Speaker 1: know what we're doing. Yeah, I'm all about Jerry Jones

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01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 1: kicking them scouts and coaches out of that. You know

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02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:03,960
Speaker 1: at that room. Let him just draft these players. Man,

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02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:06,880
Speaker 1: he's doing our I don't think that's what's happening. It's

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02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:09,280
Speaker 1: not happening. Don't think that's what's happening. I think what's happening.

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02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:13,360
Speaker 1: I think this is the scouts draft. I think that's

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Speaker 1: why we agree with the pick so much. I think

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02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:18,080
Speaker 1: they let the scouts do their work, and the coaching

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02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:20,520
Speaker 1: staff said, yeah, pick the best players and give them that.

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02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:22,880
Speaker 1: It's really if he came in and just took over

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02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:25,480
Speaker 1: and said, no, we're gonna draft these players, will Jerry.

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02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:29,040
Speaker 1: It's all about Jerry. Jerry, He's got this thing under control.

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02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 1: It's really ironic because I wanted to play a game

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Speaker 1: with with y'all this year where we charted who was

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Speaker 1: available at the pick and who we wanted and who

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Speaker 1: they took, and that would you know, it would give

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02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:43,560
Speaker 1: us receipts of who was right and who was wrong

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02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:46,320
Speaker 1: two or three years from now. But I think we're

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02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:48,880
Speaker 1: all in agreement through the first two rounds were close.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I would have to keep my

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02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 1: eye on the careers of Zach Bond and Christian Fulton. Yeah,

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02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 1: but I don't think I don't think anybody, you know,

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02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:58,200
Speaker 1: And and they chose one of my top three that yeah,

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02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:00,520
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't think any but he's gonna

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02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:03,600
Speaker 1: kill him for for digs over those two, you know,

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02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:06,160
Speaker 1: the way that happened with t J. Watt and Taco

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02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:09,080
Speaker 1: or some of the other choices that they've made, not

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02:01:09,240 --> 02:01:11,680
Speaker 1: at all. So those were those were both picks that

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02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:15,160
Speaker 1: you look the other direction and automatically said, I would

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02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:17,920
Speaker 1: rather have that guy. I want that guy, not the

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Speaker 1: one that we have. That's just not the case this year, right,

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02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:22,640
Speaker 1: And hey, trust me, Kyle, there have been a few

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02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:25,320
Speaker 1: years where we've all been sitting around looking at each other, like,

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02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:28,360
Speaker 1: who wants to say something nice about this guy? First

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02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:33,560
Speaker 1: happened a couple of times. Six years. Yeah, it happened

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02:01:33,560 --> 02:01:36,960
Speaker 1: a few times. Yeah, a few times. All right, anybody

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02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:39,320
Speaker 1: got to handle on what you think the rams might

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Speaker 1: be interested in here. They went running back with their

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02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:45,160
Speaker 1: last pick, right, they went cam Acres and now they're

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Speaker 1: back up here on the clock about treated. Yeah, they

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02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:52,960
Speaker 1: just traded Brandon Cooks. Um go back wide receiver? Replace

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02:01:53,120 --> 02:01:55,880
Speaker 1: that need Denzel Mims? Come on down? Or are we?

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Speaker 1: Are we a little bit too high on Denzel Mims

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Speaker 1: based on his postseason stuff? But I loved his Senior Bowl,

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02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:05,400
Speaker 1: loved his combine, and liked his tape, so I feel

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Speaker 1: like second rounds a good spot for him. The pick

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Speaker 1: for the Rams is in and here is the commissioner.

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Speaker 1: With the fifty seventh pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft,

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams select Van Jefferson wide receiver Florida.

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Speaker 1: There you go, No Van Jefferson wide receiver at Florida.

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02:02:26,360 --> 02:02:28,320
Speaker 1: Somebody else can give their scouting report if you like.

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Speaker 1: I just want you to know that I feel like

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02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:33,680
Speaker 1: he had an unfair advantage. His dad, Sean is the

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02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:36,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach for the Jets, so probably had good

2475
02:02:36,760 --> 02:02:39,240
Speaker 1: teaching and that would explain being a really good route runner.

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02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:42,640
Speaker 1: But Van Jefferson is going to be going to the Rams. Daane,

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02:02:42,680 --> 02:02:45,800
Speaker 1: you want to go scouting report? The Jets didn't draft him,

2478
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:49,040
Speaker 1: so how good is he? Okay? Good question, good question.

2479
02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:52,280
Speaker 1: This is a player who when he was at Old Miss.

2480
02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:54,760
Speaker 1: He transferred to Florida. When he was at Old Miss

2481
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:58,080
Speaker 1: with AJ Brown and DK Metcalf and all the talent

2482
02:02:58,160 --> 02:03:00,720
Speaker 1: they had there, there were scouts that were saying, who's

2483
02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:04,400
Speaker 1: this kid? Because he was a perfect route runner even

2484
02:03:04,520 --> 02:03:07,120
Speaker 1: as a freshman when he came went to Oxford, transfers

2485
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 1: to Florida. And that's the advantage of having a wide

2486
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:12,720
Speaker 1: receiver coach for a dad. You learn the tricks of

2487
02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:17,440
Speaker 1: setting up defensive backs and understanding pace, understanding footwork, and

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02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:20,200
Speaker 1: that's what he does at a really high level. Not

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02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:23,000
Speaker 1: the biggest, not the fastest, but for a guy that

2490
02:03:23,240 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 1: is technically sound, he is going to see the field

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02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:28,640
Speaker 1: very early as a rookie and he's going to be

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Speaker 1: productive for this Rams offense. That sounds really like somebody

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02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:35,600
Speaker 1: that would work with Sean McBay. It's just kind of

2494
02:03:35,600 --> 02:03:38,600
Speaker 1: the way I picture that offense. Everything on time. Hey, Jared,

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02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you which route to throw, Just

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02:03:40,600 --> 02:03:44,320
Speaker 1: throw it on time. Cooper Cuppish, Yeah, another one of

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02:03:44,360 --> 02:03:48,200
Speaker 1: those one of our find me a window. It's never

2498
02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:50,920
Speaker 1: my goal to make everything about LSU. But you're talking

2499
02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:54,240
Speaker 1: about a guy who picked fifty seventh. I mean, go

2500
02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 1: with me here, go with me here. This is gonna

2501
02:03:56,680 --> 02:03:59,600
Speaker 1: be a good point because en route to a national

2502
02:03:59,680 --> 02:04:03,879
Speaker 1: champion and ship, LSU played Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs, T Higgins,

2503
02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb on top of a bevy of other guys.

2504
02:04:07,640 --> 02:04:10,040
Speaker 1: And if you talk to Grant Delpit, Christian Fulton, and

2505
02:04:10,120 --> 02:04:14,040
Speaker 1: anybody else on that defense, they consistently said Van Jefferson

2506
02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:16,120
Speaker 1: was the toughest receiver they had to go against in

2507
02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:18,880
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. It's because Christian Fulton put up a great

2508
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:23,880
Speaker 1: line against those Alabama guys and against them forgetting which

2509
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:28,000
Speaker 1: other and against the Clemson guys. So, uh, Christian Fulton,

2510
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:30,120
Speaker 1: get your name called soon. I believe in you, buddy,

2511
02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm so. I mean, I I came to terms with

2512
02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:34,880
Speaker 1: the thought that he wouldn't be a first round pick.

2513
02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:38,240
Speaker 1: That makes sense, But to see him still here approaching

2514
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:42,160
Speaker 1: pick sixty eight two, it's fairly surprising. If he's there

2515
02:04:42,200 --> 02:04:45,680
Speaker 1: at I would run to make that pick at eighty two.

2516
02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 1: I just that seems unlikely. Way you would run. Well,

2517
02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:53,240
Speaker 1: there's no podium commissioners. Here I keep forgetting yet, Dave. Sorry.

2518
02:04:54,400 --> 02:05:02,520
Speaker 1: NFL Draft the Minnesota Vikings select saw some whispers that

2519
02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:04,520
Speaker 1: maybe Ezra Cleveland was going to sneak out of the

2520
02:05:04,640 --> 02:05:07,600
Speaker 1: first round. But here he is, the Boise State offensive

2521
02:05:07,640 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 1: tackle going at fifty eight to the Vikings, and I

2522
02:05:09,640 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 1: get killed. I pick I picked him to the Vikings

2523
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:14,640
Speaker 1: in my mock draft, and Jeff mauled me in his

2524
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:17,400
Speaker 1: mock draft. And I picked this guy in the first round,

2525
02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:19,800
Speaker 1: and now the last night, and then now the Vikings

2526
02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 1: take him. I felt like that they really really liked him.

2527
02:05:22,960 --> 02:05:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean I watched him play against Florida State Tallahassee

2528
02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:31,480
Speaker 1: hot day kid from an athlete. Yeah, and he's he's

2529
02:05:31,960 --> 02:05:34,280
Speaker 1: he's hanging in there with those guys. I mean it's

2530
02:05:34,360 --> 02:05:37,440
Speaker 1: like boys is running no huddle and he just keeps

2531
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:40,280
Speaker 1: coming and coming and coming after the Florida State guys.

2532
02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:43,000
Speaker 1: I like his technique. I like the way he got

2533
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:45,240
Speaker 1: his sets. I like the way he stays in front

2534
02:05:45,280 --> 02:05:47,879
Speaker 1: of this guy. I don't know about the power overall,

2535
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:50,879
Speaker 1: but I saw a guy that's a really really good athlete.

2536
02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:53,440
Speaker 1: So Vikings got him a tackle left tackle. I think

2537
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 1: that's a cauld play let because of his athletic ability.

2538
02:05:56,600 --> 02:05:58,360
Speaker 1: It kind of seems the way that it's going an

2539
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:02,600
Speaker 1: offensive tackle is if you've got the requisite athleticism that

2540
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:06,320
Speaker 1: pass protect protection is so important in today's NFL that

2541
02:06:06,360 --> 02:06:07,560
Speaker 1: you got to have the feat to be able to

2542
02:06:07,640 --> 02:06:09,840
Speaker 1: match some of these pass rushers. Is that the way

2543
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:12,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of going, Dane, where that's kind of where

2544
02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:15,440
Speaker 1: people start is tell me what kind of athlete he is? Right?

2545
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:17,600
Speaker 1: And I think that you're you're right about that, and

2546
02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:21,080
Speaker 1: the combine he had really helped him. The Vikings, I know,

2547
02:06:21,200 --> 02:06:24,120
Speaker 1: were considering him in the first round. Yeah, with two

2548
02:06:24,160 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 1: first round picks. Well, and if the kind of how

2549
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:30,440
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Cowboys, if the first sixteen picks

2550
02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:32,680
Speaker 1: played out a certain way, Diggs might have been the

2551
02:06:32,720 --> 02:06:35,600
Speaker 1: guy at seventeen if the first twenty one picks or so,

2552
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:38,920
Speaker 1: because they did the Vikings did not expect Justin Jefferson

2553
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:41,200
Speaker 1: to be there at twenty two. He fell there and

2554
02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:43,360
Speaker 1: they were like, oh shoot, we got to take this guy.

2555
02:06:44,040 --> 02:06:46,240
Speaker 1: And Ezra Cleveland was a guy they were ready to

2556
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:49,000
Speaker 1: take if the if the board played out a certain way,

2557
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:51,160
Speaker 1: so to get him in the second round. This is

2558
02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:53,600
Speaker 1: kind of like a Cowboys moment for the Vikings to

2559
02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:56,080
Speaker 1: get him at this point in the draft. So now

2560
02:06:56,120 --> 02:06:59,120
Speaker 1: we get the New York Jets on the clock. We

2561
02:06:59,200 --> 02:07:01,880
Speaker 1: are at number fifty eight in the draft. It'll be

2562
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:04,960
Speaker 1: the Jets followed by the Ravens, followed by the Titans.

2563
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:07,360
Speaker 1: And Mike Zimmer is hanging out in front of his fireplace.

2564
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:09,760
Speaker 1: It's a good looking fireplace. I wonder, I wonder if

2565
02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:12,280
Speaker 1: he's ad his ranch, he might have got his things.

2566
02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:15,360
Speaker 1: Wondering about that. I got a place in Kentucky. Huh, Well, yeah,

2567
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:18,280
Speaker 1: he's he's, he's it's his big ranch that he's got.

2568
02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:20,160
Speaker 1: Man ranch would be a good place to be for

2569
02:07:20,240 --> 02:07:23,120
Speaker 1: a draft. The only question is you gotta be sure

2570
02:07:23,120 --> 02:07:26,600
Speaker 1: about your WiFi, your internet situation, because sometimes a ranch,

2571
02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:29,400
Speaker 1: you know you're not in the sub dude makes like

2572
02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:31,800
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year, Jeff, you don't think he can.

2573
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:34,840
Speaker 1: Which would be rousier for Wi Fi? A yacht or

2574
02:07:34,920 --> 02:07:37,920
Speaker 1: a ranch? It doesn't which, that's the question. You think

2575
02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:40,400
Speaker 1: The yacht was hardwired, like he was close enough to

2576
02:07:40,480 --> 02:07:43,600
Speaker 1: somewhere that they were running extension cords and the longest

2577
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:46,640
Speaker 1: Cat six cable you've ever seen out of a nearby

2578
02:07:46,720 --> 02:07:50,600
Speaker 1: restaurant and down the dock. All can't kick something off,

2579
02:07:52,080 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 1: just lug into a Starbucks outlet. This is the New

2580
02:07:55,240 --> 02:07:57,720
Speaker 1: York Jets second pick of this draft. The first one

2581
02:07:57,840 --> 02:08:02,040
Speaker 1: was McKay Beckton in the first round, Louisville offensive tackle.

2582
02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:04,560
Speaker 1: Like that. By the way, Brian or Dane, do you

2583
02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:06,960
Speaker 1: have some needs for the New York Jets to try

2584
02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:09,400
Speaker 1: to try to guide us in the right direction? Let

2585
02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:12,000
Speaker 1: me see if I could figure this out. They traded

2586
02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:14,680
Speaker 1: down before, right, so this is only their second pick. Ye, second,

2587
02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:18,160
Speaker 1: so they have obvious needs at you look at the

2588
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:20,960
Speaker 1: cornerback depth chart and you're just kind of shaking your head,

2589
02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:26,040
Speaker 1: and who's this guy? So cornerback definitely receiver yea, Robbie

2590
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:29,280
Speaker 1: Anderson going to Carolina. Uh, you know they gave sam

2591
02:08:29,360 --> 02:08:32,280
Speaker 1: Donold help at eleven with the left tackle time to

2592
02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:34,640
Speaker 1: get him some help to you know, who's gonna be

2593
02:08:34,720 --> 02:08:38,800
Speaker 1: catching these passes? So I think corner or edge rusher

2594
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:41,200
Speaker 1: or receiver. I'd be pretty surprised. If it's any other position,

2595
02:08:41,240 --> 02:08:44,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fault right here. Well, okay, so names

2596
02:08:44,280 --> 02:08:46,640
Speaker 1: I would consider if you're talking to those, Yeah, Denzel Mims,

2597
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:48,680
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton and then I'm way higher than the rest

2598
02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:52,640
Speaker 1: of the world. One makes way too much sense. Oh,

2599
02:08:52,680 --> 02:08:55,960
Speaker 1: I understand, it's too much sense. No, I understand. I mean,

2600
02:08:56,040 --> 02:08:59,360
Speaker 1: but you know Fulton Dane also laid it out though.

2601
02:08:59,480 --> 02:09:01,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at their needs to talk about edge,

2602
02:09:01,720 --> 02:09:05,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver, cornerback, linebacker. I mean they dressed their offensive line.

2603
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:08,080
Speaker 1: I think their best corners Pierre to see her. I mean,

2604
02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:11,080
Speaker 1: I think if you ask Jets fans and name the

2605
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:13,320
Speaker 1: top three corners on their team, I don't know if

2606
02:09:13,320 --> 02:09:15,480
Speaker 1: they could do it. Come to Cowboys couldn't score on that?

2607
02:09:16,640 --> 02:09:22,280
Speaker 1: Yeah about a depth? You know why? You know why

2608
02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:25,440
Speaker 1: they couldn't score on that because Cooper played. Cooper played

2609
02:09:25,480 --> 02:09:28,680
Speaker 1: two snaps and they didn't have ceedee lamb and yeah, exactly,

2610
02:09:28,720 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 1: they didn't have very fair, very fair. We fixed that

2611
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:36,360
Speaker 1: problem last night, Jeffrey, Maybe Treyvon Diggs can also be

2612
02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:39,960
Speaker 1: your fourth or fifth wide receiver. Maybe, well, maybe Treyvon

2613
02:09:40,040 --> 02:09:43,000
Speaker 1: Diggs can stop a ninety eight yard touchdown too. That

2614
02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:44,840
Speaker 1: would be good, That would be very good. Well, that

2615
02:09:44,840 --> 02:09:46,360
Speaker 1: guy's not on the Jets anymore. You don't have to

2616
02:09:46,400 --> 02:09:48,360
Speaker 1: worry about it. What a just what a kick in

2617
02:09:48,440 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 1: the junk that game was let's not go back. I

2618
02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:52,360
Speaker 1: don't know why you guys are doing this. Why are

2619
02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:56,440
Speaker 1: you you started it about Cede Lamb and Trevon Diggs. Guys,

2620
02:09:57,000 --> 02:10:01,000
Speaker 1: come on, yeah, yeah, I like where Dane's heads at.

2621
02:10:01,080 --> 02:10:02,800
Speaker 1: I don't know about the rest of you guys. So

2622
02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:05,080
Speaker 1: New York Jets on the clock. They've taken Beckton in

2623
02:10:05,120 --> 02:10:07,520
Speaker 1: the first round. Denzel Mims would be a lot of

2624
02:10:07,560 --> 02:10:11,040
Speaker 1: fun there, my guys, Sammy d poor guy Dane. You

2625
02:10:11,080 --> 02:10:12,960
Speaker 1: were really high on Sam Darnold in the draft, and

2626
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here watching him in the NFL, like, are

2627
02:10:14,760 --> 02:10:16,879
Speaker 1: they ever going to give him a chance to succeed?

2628
02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:22,520
Speaker 1: There's nobody Blocker and Rogers learning the same things. Nobody open. Yeah,

2629
02:10:22,680 --> 02:10:25,800
Speaker 1: they don't draft anybody. Let's trade up for another quarterback.

2630
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:28,720
Speaker 1: And I don't think Aaron Rodgers is gonna be the

2631
02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:30,840
Speaker 1: type to handle that well when somebody's like, well Aaron,

2632
02:10:30,880 --> 02:10:32,320
Speaker 1: we did it with you too. I don't think that

2633
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:34,480
Speaker 1: that's gonna work for him. I think that he's gonna

2634
02:10:34,480 --> 02:10:36,800
Speaker 1: have a lot to say. How do you think Rogers

2635
02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:39,640
Speaker 1: feels about the fact that McCarthy got such a great

2636
02:10:39,720 --> 02:10:42,360
Speaker 1: receiver in the first round? In his first Cowboy draft

2637
02:10:42,440 --> 02:10:44,760
Speaker 1: after never getting a skill player in the first round

2638
02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:47,520
Speaker 1: during his Packer tenure. I think Aaron is ready to

2639
02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:50,680
Speaker 1: demand a trade and then have a QB competition with Dak.

2640
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:54,720
Speaker 1: I've seen Aaron's contract figures. I don't think that's likely.

2641
02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:58,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what you've seen. What daxus going, Yeah, exactly, well,

2642
02:10:58,880 --> 02:11:02,520
Speaker 1: fair true story. That one doesn't exist yet as far

2643
02:11:02,600 --> 02:11:05,840
Speaker 1: as I'm aware. Yeah yet. So the show in the

2644
02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:08,400
Speaker 1: graphic of the top receivers remaining, which would make sense,

2645
02:11:08,440 --> 02:11:12,400
Speaker 1: and now the camera is actually in Denzel Mims's living room.

2646
02:11:12,720 --> 02:11:15,600
Speaker 1: Very nice couch appears to be either leather or pleather,

2647
02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:18,960
Speaker 1: able to seat at least eight to ten people on

2648
02:11:19,080 --> 02:11:22,320
Speaker 1: that couch, and the Jets Adam gase looks like they've

2649
02:11:22,400 --> 02:11:26,040
Speaker 1: made a pick. He's hugging his son, Joe Douglas as

2650
02:11:26,160 --> 02:11:29,600
Speaker 1: it appears three screens. Adam Gasee's kid is really fascinated

2651
02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:32,680
Speaker 1: with the camera, making sure to wave like you see

2652
02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:35,760
Speaker 1: kids do at a basketball game, making sure, but he's

2653
02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:37,800
Speaker 1: not looking at the camera. He's looking at the screen

2654
02:11:37,920 --> 02:11:40,360
Speaker 1: that shows the display of the draft and waving it

2655
02:11:40,480 --> 02:11:43,080
Speaker 1: in which is alway by play. I need it in

2656
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:44,960
Speaker 1: my life. This is beautiful. Well, it's always a tough

2657
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:46,360
Speaker 1: deal because you don't know where the camera is. You

2658
02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:48,680
Speaker 1: just know that you're on TV, so you're actually looking

2659
02:11:48,760 --> 02:11:51,320
Speaker 1: at TV instead of at the camera, and you're really

2660
02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:54,320
Speaker 1: waving at yourself, watching yourself. See and as here come

2661
02:11:54,360 --> 02:11:56,720
Speaker 1: the other kids. Now we got three kids. You see

2662
02:11:56,720 --> 02:11:58,560
Speaker 1: it on scoreboards all the time and on the big

2663
02:11:58,920 --> 02:12:02,400
Speaker 1: monitor at and T Stadium. You see it all the day. Beth, Yeah,

2664
02:12:02,480 --> 02:12:04,320
Speaker 1: but I have better aware to get the kids. If

2665
02:12:04,360 --> 02:12:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm in that situation, I immediately try to find the camera,

2666
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:10,000
Speaker 1: just if you're keeping track at home. It took till

2667
02:12:10,040 --> 02:12:12,120
Speaker 1: pick fifty nine for us to go off the rails.

2668
02:12:12,320 --> 02:12:21,680
Speaker 1: Here's Roger with the the New York Jets pick in

2669
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:26,240
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft. The Jets, like Denzel Mims,

2670
02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:30,160
Speaker 1: going people finding a way to pick the best guy

2671
02:12:30,240 --> 02:12:32,200
Speaker 1: on the board. Denzel Mims, who I think is one

2672
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:34,720
Speaker 1: of the guys who helped himself the absolute most out

2673
02:12:34,760 --> 02:12:38,680
Speaker 1: of everybody after actual football had ended with the Senior

2674
02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:42,320
Speaker 1: Bowl and with the combine, finding a home here on

2675
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:45,920
Speaker 1: a team where there should be plenty of targets available.

2676
02:12:46,520 --> 02:12:51,880
Speaker 1: Scouting report, Denzel Mims Dane player at Baylor who didn't

2677
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:54,960
Speaker 1: run a diverse route tree. But then he goes to

2678
02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:57,080
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, like you mentioned Jeff, and you see

2679
02:12:57,160 --> 02:13:00,600
Speaker 1: him more more versatile player than I thought a lot

2680
02:13:00,640 --> 02:13:03,600
Speaker 1: of us thought he would be. Paul Long almost thirty

2681
02:13:03,640 --> 02:13:06,600
Speaker 1: four in jarms. Speed was outstanding, had the best three

2682
02:13:06,720 --> 02:13:10,280
Speaker 1: cone out of anybody at the combine. So really impressive

2683
02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:13,160
Speaker 1: athlete for that size. You wish he was more and

2684
02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:15,640
Speaker 1: more consistent with the route running. Had a few drops,

2685
02:13:15,720 --> 02:13:17,640
Speaker 1: but at this point in the draft, this is a

2686
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:19,920
Speaker 1: this is a tremendous steal for them. And if you're

2687
02:13:19,960 --> 02:13:22,320
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, you got your left tackle in the first

2688
02:13:22,600 --> 02:13:24,920
Speaker 1: you get your receiver, and the second you have to

2689
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:27,800
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about what your GM Joe Douglas is

2690
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:29,640
Speaker 1: doing and trying to help you. And this was the

2691
02:13:29,720 --> 02:13:33,040
Speaker 1: top target for Charlie Brewer and that Matt Rural offense

2692
02:13:33,200 --> 02:13:36,240
Speaker 1: during It's really his entire tenure down at Baylor. And

2693
02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:37,840
Speaker 1: you talk about a guy who can go up and

2694
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:40,440
Speaker 1: get a football, he's right there with it. He high

2695
02:13:40,480 --> 02:13:43,040
Speaker 1: points the ball so well. He was tied for second

2696
02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:45,760
Speaker 1: in the country in terms of contested receptions. He was

2697
02:13:45,880 --> 02:13:48,760
Speaker 1: honestly one of my favorite players just in college football

2698
02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:51,920
Speaker 1: to watch throughout the course of this past season. Then

2699
02:13:52,440 --> 02:13:54,680
Speaker 1: another Texas high school football product got to throw it

2700
02:13:54,680 --> 02:13:56,960
Speaker 1: out out there. He's from Dangerfield, Texas, which is of

2701
02:13:57,040 --> 02:14:01,440
Speaker 1: course very football history rich in that regard. Played four

2702
02:14:01,720 --> 02:14:04,800
Speaker 1: sports there, including track, which you saw with the forty

2703
02:14:04,840 --> 02:14:07,040
Speaker 1: that ended up running a four three eight, which was

2704
02:14:07,080 --> 02:14:09,680
Speaker 1: one of the top five wide receiver forties that you

2705
02:14:09,800 --> 02:14:12,720
Speaker 1: saw in the NFL combine. So I like him a lot.

2706
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:14,960
Speaker 1: And Jeff, I remember you talking about the route tree

2707
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:17,440
Speaker 1: early on in the offseason. That kind of scared you.

2708
02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:21,160
Speaker 1: I think he kind of dispelled that kind of bugaboo

2709
02:14:21,200 --> 02:14:23,040
Speaker 1: to his game at the at the Senior Bowl, just

2710
02:14:23,160 --> 02:14:25,879
Speaker 1: the way that he was able to show some reality

2711
02:14:25,920 --> 02:14:28,560
Speaker 1: and some versatility. Nobody could cover him at the Senior Bowl.

2712
02:14:28,600 --> 02:14:30,920
Speaker 1: And once again we have a GM's kid who is

2713
02:14:31,040 --> 02:14:33,840
Speaker 1: pretending to be super excited about a pick that looks

2714
02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:35,120
Speaker 1: like an eight year old. And I just don't know

2715
02:14:35,200 --> 02:14:37,960
Speaker 1: if they understand what they're excited about, but that's the

2716
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:40,360
Speaker 1: way it goes. All Right, We've got the New England

2717
02:14:40,440 --> 02:14:43,680
Speaker 1: Patriots who have traded up their pick is in. We'll

2718
02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:46,440
Speaker 1: get to that and the rest of this draft. You're

2719
02:14:46,480 --> 02:14:48,480
Speaker 1: listening to the twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh

2720
02:14:48,560 --> 02:14:53,880
Speaker 1: five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And

2721
02:14:54,080 --> 02:14:56,880
Speaker 1: as we continue here on the website side of things,

2722
02:14:56,960 --> 02:15:00,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots still looking to make their first select. Shouldn't

2723
02:15:00,440 --> 02:15:03,040
Speaker 1: correct now that they've traded up because they traded out

2724
02:15:03,080 --> 02:15:06,000
Speaker 1: of twenty three. No, they I take that back. They

2725
02:15:06,040 --> 02:15:09,440
Speaker 1: took Kyle Dugger earlier in the draft, so you did have, uh,

2726
02:15:09,640 --> 02:15:15,600
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger. We don't, we don't. I believe y'all are

2727
02:15:15,640 --> 02:15:23,040
Speaker 1: still up. I'm not sure what's going on here. I

2728
02:15:23,120 --> 02:15:25,760
Speaker 1: think we're having some technical difficulties. That's what happens when

2729
02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:27,960
Speaker 1: we're all virtual. But that's okay, Dave. You can still

2730
02:15:28,000 --> 02:15:29,920
Speaker 1: hear me, correct, I can hear you, Kyle. I think

2731
02:15:29,920 --> 02:15:31,800
Speaker 1: our fans let's go ahead and go Yeah, let's go

2732
02:15:31,800 --> 02:15:34,720
Speaker 1: ahead and go to New England. You've got New England

2733
02:15:34,840 --> 02:15:37,160
Speaker 1: coming up next with the trade with Baltimore and the Ravens.

2734
02:15:37,240 --> 02:15:41,520
Speaker 1: Then the Titans, Packers, Chiefs, Seahawks are the scheduled guys

2735
02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:44,200
Speaker 1: to go on for the or scheduled picks to go

2736
02:15:44,320 --> 02:15:46,600
Speaker 1: on until the end of the round. But with the

2737
02:15:46,720 --> 02:15:50,280
Speaker 1: Patriots here, she picks sixty. What do you see, Dane

2738
02:15:50,680 --> 02:15:55,120
Speaker 1: at where they could go here? Front seven? Um, you

2739
02:15:55,240 --> 02:15:57,800
Speaker 1: know he took a defensive line, you know, could they

2740
02:15:57,840 --> 02:16:00,960
Speaker 1: go a Matta Bouquet? Could they go with the Curtis

2741
02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:04,480
Speaker 1: Weaver goes somewhere? They need to get younger on that

2742
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:08,680
Speaker 1: defensive line. Um, need to get younger a linebacker seeing Uh,

2743
02:16:09,240 --> 02:16:12,240
Speaker 1: maybe could we see the run on linebackers start here?

2744
02:16:12,600 --> 02:16:15,400
Speaker 1: We haven't had many linebackers off the board. Zach Bond

2745
02:16:15,520 --> 02:16:21,800
Speaker 1: possibly Logan Wilson. Let's see what the Patriots do. I

2746
02:16:21,920 --> 02:16:23,920
Speaker 1: can tell you what they're gonna do. They just picked

2747
02:16:24,320 --> 02:16:29,080
Speaker 1: Josh Uche out of Michigan. Personal favorite of mine. Oh

2748
02:16:29,160 --> 02:16:31,160
Speaker 1: my gosh, I love this dude. And he's one of

2749
02:16:31,200 --> 02:16:33,800
Speaker 1: those guys I feel like people are afraid of him

2750
02:16:33,840 --> 02:16:37,040
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have a definitive role. Dane, tell me

2751
02:16:37,120 --> 02:16:39,640
Speaker 1: if I'm crazy, Like, doesn't this seem like Chase Winovitch

2752
02:16:39,680 --> 02:16:43,200
Speaker 1: all over again? Just in terms of I mean just

2753
02:16:43,360 --> 02:16:45,560
Speaker 1: a specialized guy who can get to the quarterback. I

2754
02:16:45,600 --> 02:16:47,480
Speaker 1: mean he's not gonna be for everybody, but man, he

2755
02:16:47,560 --> 02:16:50,200
Speaker 1: can do something. He can do something for you. Yeah. Well,

2756
02:16:50,200 --> 02:16:52,880
Speaker 1: and Chase Winovich who was drafted by the Patriots last

2757
02:16:52,920 --> 02:16:55,879
Speaker 1: year on Day two. Uh yeah, you know he's He's

2758
02:16:55,879 --> 02:16:58,520
Speaker 1: a guy who I don't I think he's a little

2759
02:16:58,520 --> 02:17:01,040
Speaker 1: more versatility than a win it bitch, where Winovich is

2760
02:17:01,040 --> 02:17:04,440
Speaker 1: an upfield play player only where oocha, maybe you have

2761
02:17:04,520 --> 02:17:06,720
Speaker 1: a guy that can draw up a playing space six one, two,

2762
02:17:06,879 --> 02:17:09,519
Speaker 1: forty five. So he has the size of a linebacker,

2763
02:17:09,800 --> 02:17:13,360
Speaker 1: but the speed is what you're banking on here. Good

2764
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:16,680
Speaker 1: luck slowing him down around the edge. And a player

2765
02:17:16,720 --> 02:17:19,760
Speaker 1: who only played about fifty percent of snaps last year

2766
02:17:19,800 --> 02:17:22,760
Speaker 1: as a senior at Michigan. So you know, even even

2767
02:17:22,879 --> 02:17:25,560
Speaker 1: the Wolverines weren't sure exactly how to use him and

2768
02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:30,400
Speaker 1: in which situations. So this is interesting pick by coach Belichick. Obviously.

2769
02:17:30,440 --> 02:17:32,160
Speaker 1: I think he knows a thing or two about defense

2770
02:17:32,240 --> 02:17:34,360
Speaker 1: and how to use a player like this, no doubt.

2771
02:17:34,400 --> 02:17:36,520
Speaker 1: I feel like this is one of those value picks

2772
02:17:36,560 --> 02:17:39,200
Speaker 1: that the Patriots are just destined to make throughout the

2773
02:17:39,320 --> 02:17:41,879
Speaker 1: course of a draft. He's gonna have six sacks year,

2774
02:17:42,120 --> 02:17:44,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna have six sacks at the halfway point in

2775
02:17:44,240 --> 02:17:46,680
Speaker 1: next season, and like they're only gonna use him in

2776
02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:49,800
Speaker 1: certain situations and there it's gonna be like they're they're

2777
02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:52,680
Speaker 1: two four front that nobody else in the league runs,

2778
02:17:52,760 --> 02:17:55,240
Speaker 1: and he's just gonna be a nightmare. That's my prediction.

2779
02:17:55,600 --> 02:17:58,000
Speaker 1: And now I'm kind of looking down the list here, guys,

2780
02:17:58,040 --> 02:17:59,720
Speaker 1: and there's a couple names that stick out to me

2781
02:18:00,040 --> 02:18:01,920
Speaker 1: and oh my gosh, that guy's still kind of there

2782
02:18:02,000 --> 02:18:04,960
Speaker 1: or that guy's still there type of player. How about

2783
02:18:05,080 --> 02:18:08,280
Speaker 1: Josh Jones out of Houston, the offensive tackle that I

2784
02:18:08,400 --> 02:18:11,440
Speaker 1: thought would go well early in the draft, and he's

2785
02:18:11,480 --> 02:18:13,640
Speaker 1: still on the board. You still got Christian Fulton up

2786
02:18:13,640 --> 02:18:18,960
Speaker 1: there as well. Josh Jones is surprising. Um. I thought

2787
02:18:18,959 --> 02:18:20,480
Speaker 1: there was a chance he'd go in the first round.

2788
02:18:20,640 --> 02:18:23,440
Speaker 1: Obviously that didn't happen, and surprise, he has fallen to

2789
02:18:23,560 --> 02:18:27,800
Speaker 1: this point a really very good player in pass protection.

2790
02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:31,680
Speaker 1: You know, he's not the greatest as a run blocker.

2791
02:18:31,800 --> 02:18:34,920
Speaker 1: And when you watch his film, who did he who

2792
02:18:35,000 --> 02:18:37,360
Speaker 1: did he really face? That really challenged him. I think

2793
02:18:37,400 --> 02:18:40,360
Speaker 1: that's what teams are struggling with. All right, here we

2794
02:18:40,480 --> 02:18:45,920
Speaker 1: go back on the fan side of things. The twenty

2795
02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:50,120
Speaker 1: twenty NFL Draft continues on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

2796
02:18:50,400 --> 02:18:54,240
Speaker 1: one three the Fan. All right, welcome back. It is

2797
02:18:54,320 --> 02:18:57,360
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, where the Dallas Cowboys last

2798
02:18:57,480 --> 02:19:00,400
Speaker 1: night took Ceedee Lamb if you somehow missed that, So sir,

2799
02:19:00,600 --> 02:19:04,120
Speaker 1: they got Cite Lamb and then they got Brian brought

2800
02:19:04,200 --> 02:19:06,560
Speaker 1: us his eighteen ranked player in this draft in the

2801
02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:11,360
Speaker 1: second round in trey Von Diggs. Where now it picks

2802
02:19:11,440 --> 02:19:14,039
Speaker 1: sixty one with the Tennessee Titans. Here at the back

2803
02:19:14,160 --> 02:19:16,760
Speaker 1: end of the second round. Cowboy's next pick, of course

2804
02:19:17,480 --> 02:19:22,400
Speaker 1: is at eighty two, So with the Tennessee Titans. Anybody

2805
02:19:22,520 --> 02:19:25,120
Speaker 1: got a nice little list handy to try to point

2806
02:19:25,200 --> 02:19:30,760
Speaker 1: us in the right direction, Zach Bond, Should we just

2807
02:19:30,800 --> 02:19:33,920
Speaker 1: say that for every pick, like I mean, at this

2808
02:19:34,080 --> 02:19:38,000
Speaker 1: point where the value is what it is. They drafted

2809
02:19:38,080 --> 02:19:40,040
Speaker 1: tackle in the first round, so Josh Jones I think

2810
02:19:40,080 --> 02:19:42,360
Speaker 1: would be excellent value, but they're not going to go

2811
02:19:42,480 --> 02:19:46,720
Speaker 1: that direction. Could we start to see Cushion Berry get

2812
02:19:46,800 --> 02:19:50,960
Speaker 1: more offensive line? Helps surprised? Jeremy Chen is still a

2813
02:19:51,120 --> 02:19:54,520
Speaker 1: round so a few names, and that's what happens when

2814
02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:57,320
Speaker 1: you we have so many talented Day two picks, a

2815
02:19:57,400 --> 02:20:00,080
Speaker 1: lot of talents still available. It's going to happen. I

2816
02:20:00,160 --> 02:20:03,240
Speaker 1: mean the third round, we're still gonna have some intriguing names. Uh,

2817
02:20:04,360 --> 02:20:09,640
Speaker 1: Matta Bouque, you know they they shipped off. Uh who's

2818
02:20:09,879 --> 02:20:13,640
Speaker 1: the really good defensive tackle they shipped off to Denver? Yes,

2819
02:20:13,879 --> 02:20:16,920
Speaker 1: so Matta Bouque, George Elliott, one of these big defensive

2820
02:20:16,959 --> 02:20:20,560
Speaker 1: tackles maybe coming in help replace him up front. I

2821
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:23,200
Speaker 1: still think corner could be an option here too, because

2822
02:20:23,240 --> 02:20:25,760
Speaker 1: you look at what their needs are at cornerback. I

2823
02:20:25,840 --> 02:20:27,840
Speaker 1: mean they don't have I mean they've got Andrew Jackson

2824
02:20:27,920 --> 02:20:30,160
Speaker 1: out there and then Malcolm Butler. But are you really

2825
02:20:30,320 --> 02:20:33,320
Speaker 1: trusting Malcolm Butler to be your your corner as a Titan?

2826
02:20:34,040 --> 02:20:36,840
Speaker 1: Probably they lose. They lose Logan Ryan and that that

2827
02:20:36,959 --> 02:20:39,440
Speaker 1: is a great point. They need that guy that can

2828
02:20:39,480 --> 02:20:43,760
Speaker 1: play inside outside, Uh, that can has the football character

2829
02:20:43,840 --> 02:20:46,960
Speaker 1: that you know coach Vrabel's looking for. So absolutely, and

2830
02:20:47,320 --> 02:20:51,040
Speaker 1: you look at the top corner still available, Christian Fulton's

2831
02:20:51,120 --> 02:20:54,640
Speaker 1: still there. Yeah, so that that is a possibility for sure. Yeah,

2832
02:20:54,680 --> 02:20:56,440
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I was looking. I was thinking.

2833
02:20:56,680 --> 02:20:59,640
Speaker 1: And if you're their cornerback situation, and like, okay, if

2834
02:20:59,680 --> 02:21:02,440
Speaker 1: you're just go for the second round, taking the best

2835
02:21:02,480 --> 02:21:05,520
Speaker 1: available player, that Christian Fulton's the guy. I mean, he's

2836
02:21:05,560 --> 02:21:08,080
Speaker 1: gotta be right, Yeah, we can leave him alone. Yeah,

2837
02:21:08,280 --> 02:21:10,640
Speaker 1: him and Bond or the two guys that I would say, Man,

2838
02:21:10,720 --> 02:21:12,320
Speaker 1: if I got either one of those guys, i'd be

2839
02:21:12,480 --> 02:21:16,160
Speaker 1: lated about that. Yeah. I'm just gonna watch this draft

2840
02:21:16,200 --> 02:21:18,120
Speaker 1: and hope to not hear either of their names for

2841
02:21:18,200 --> 02:21:21,520
Speaker 1: the next twenty picks. Any chance, any chance either of

2842
02:21:21,600 --> 02:21:24,400
Speaker 1: those guys in eighty two? Oh, that'd be awesome. I

2843
02:21:24,480 --> 02:21:26,320
Speaker 1: guess you never have to trade up to get it, though.

2844
02:21:27,840 --> 02:21:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't think eighty two. I think eighty two too far.

2845
02:21:29,920 --> 02:21:31,960
Speaker 1: That's still like you just said, twenty picks away and

2846
02:21:32,040 --> 02:21:33,920
Speaker 1: you still think that they're gonna be there. We weren't,

2847
02:21:33,920 --> 02:21:35,560
Speaker 1: weren't gonna be there fifty one. I don't think so.

2848
02:21:35,720 --> 02:21:39,039
Speaker 1: I'm begging. I'm asking if anybody tell me you're asking

2849
02:21:39,080 --> 02:21:41,720
Speaker 1: the question you're out here saying, do you think no,

2850
02:21:41,959 --> 02:21:45,560
Speaker 1: there's no way? Dang it? Yeah, Kyle, I'm bringing it

2851
02:21:45,640 --> 02:21:47,960
Speaker 1: down again, I know, but I'm being real here. They're

2852
02:21:47,959 --> 02:21:50,199
Speaker 1: trying to make sure we set up the board the rend. Jeff,

2853
02:21:50,280 --> 02:21:53,240
Speaker 1: I've done this to Kyle, Dave. No. I mean it's

2854
02:21:53,360 --> 02:21:56,120
Speaker 1: good that somebody is there to rain you and Brian

2855
02:21:56,200 --> 02:21:59,240
Speaker 1: in 'all are monster. Sorry, Commissioner, with the pick Titans

2856
02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:04,080
Speaker 1: to see Titans select Christian Fulton. He fens him back.

2857
02:22:05,120 --> 02:22:08,879
Speaker 1: Happy Now Kyle, I'm mad on Kavanaugh, Now Kyle, Kyle

2858
02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:12,840
Speaker 1: nailed it. Was what do you want? Um? I want

2859
02:22:12,920 --> 02:22:15,800
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton to go back on the board, wait twenty

2860
02:22:15,879 --> 02:22:19,039
Speaker 1: picks and then be a Dallas cowboy. A bond still

2861
02:22:19,080 --> 02:22:22,400
Speaker 1: there though. Yeah, Christian Fulton. I really like Christian Fulton.

2862
02:22:22,400 --> 02:22:24,320
Speaker 1: I think he's one of those guys that, to me,

2863
02:22:25,480 --> 02:22:28,480
Speaker 1: he got to this spot because he's not six two

2864
02:22:28,600 --> 02:22:30,480
Speaker 1: and he didn't run a four to three, But when

2865
02:22:30,520 --> 02:22:32,880
Speaker 1: you just watch him play corner, I think instinctually his

2866
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:36,200
Speaker 1: ability to play man coverage. I really am a big

2867
02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:38,360
Speaker 1: fan of Christian Fulton. Am I missing something that is

2868
02:22:38,400 --> 02:22:40,080
Speaker 1: the reason that he got pushed down here? Is it

2869
02:22:40,200 --> 02:22:44,080
Speaker 1: just lacking those traits? He was my sixtieth ranked player

2870
02:22:44,120 --> 02:22:48,560
Speaker 1: in this draft, um, and he just I mean he

2871
02:22:48,640 --> 02:22:51,520
Speaker 1: went right where I thought he's a joke. But this

2872
02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:54,040
Speaker 1: is I mean, they lost Logan Ryan, They're looking for

2873
02:22:54,200 --> 02:22:57,080
Speaker 1: that reliable player they could play inside outside, and Fulton's

2874
02:22:57,120 --> 02:23:00,120
Speaker 1: that guy. Uh you know you you do wonder is

2875
02:23:00,160 --> 02:23:02,600
Speaker 1: there anything kind of like we talked about with Jalen

2876
02:23:02,640 --> 02:23:05,720
Speaker 1: Johnson is there anything exceptional to what he does? Not? Really,

2877
02:23:06,120 --> 02:23:09,760
Speaker 1: He's solid size, sold speed, only two career picks, so

2878
02:23:09,879 --> 02:23:13,160
Speaker 1: he wasn't overly productive. But he didn't get beat a

2879
02:23:13,280 --> 02:23:16,800
Speaker 1: ton either, unless you're facing Henry Ruggs, who got him

2880
02:23:16,800 --> 02:23:18,720
Speaker 1: a few times. But this is just a quality player

2881
02:23:18,800 --> 02:23:21,400
Speaker 1: who maybe got pushed down a little bit because of

2882
02:23:21,480 --> 02:23:23,600
Speaker 1: the overall talent in this class. All right, well, now

2883
02:23:23,680 --> 02:23:25,640
Speaker 1: let's talk about a different cornerback. How about the ones

2884
02:23:25,680 --> 02:23:27,760
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys picked at number fifty one overall? On

2885
02:23:27,840 --> 02:23:30,640
Speaker 1: the phone with us right now, Trey Von Diggs is

2886
02:23:30,720 --> 02:23:34,360
Speaker 1: with us. Tray Von, first of all, congratulations and welcome

2887
02:23:34,400 --> 02:23:38,119
Speaker 1: to the Dallas Cowboys. Thank you. I appreciate everything. Thank

2888
02:23:38,120 --> 02:23:40,320
Speaker 1: you for having him. Happy to be a member in

2889
02:23:40,360 --> 02:23:43,840
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboy. What's it like talking to Jerry Jones

2890
02:23:43,920 --> 02:23:47,080
Speaker 1: on the phone? I feel like heeled sometimes be a storyteller.

2891
02:23:47,160 --> 02:23:49,960
Speaker 1: Where are you familiar with Jerry? And is it strange

2892
02:23:50,080 --> 02:23:52,720
Speaker 1: hearing him on the other end of your phone? I've

2893
02:23:52,760 --> 02:23:56,600
Speaker 1: always been offended Jerry like is amazing? Like when I

2894
02:23:56,680 --> 02:23:58,960
Speaker 1: first had talked to us, kind of starshut because of

2895
02:23:59,040 --> 02:24:02,040
Speaker 1: this life area Jonald I talking to So it was

2896
02:24:02,160 --> 02:24:04,000
Speaker 1: kind of like you know, I was star stuck. But

2897
02:24:04,240 --> 02:24:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, I love the Dallas Cowboys. Everything I brought

2898
02:24:07,120 --> 02:24:09,800
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. I love the program. So I'm excited.

2899
02:24:10,160 --> 02:24:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm really excited with your Can you tell us about

2900
02:24:14,360 --> 02:24:16,960
Speaker 1: the video conference that you had with those guys? What

2901
02:24:17,080 --> 02:24:19,760
Speaker 1: kind of experience was that and not so much maybe

2902
02:24:19,800 --> 02:24:21,960
Speaker 1: what you guys were talking about, well what about you know,

2903
02:24:22,120 --> 02:24:23,680
Speaker 1: they probably would have had you in as one of

2904
02:24:23,720 --> 02:24:25,960
Speaker 1: the thirty visit guys, but now you had to do

2905
02:24:26,120 --> 02:24:28,880
Speaker 1: this over video conference. Did you get a feel for

2906
02:24:28,959 --> 02:24:33,160
Speaker 1: everybody doing it that way? Yeah? It was It was

2907
02:24:33,240 --> 02:24:36,080
Speaker 1: pretty Uh it was different, um, you know, just seeing

2908
02:24:36,160 --> 02:24:39,480
Speaker 1: everybody like on social media and technology and stuff, you know,

2909
02:24:39,840 --> 02:24:41,920
Speaker 1: not in person. But you know, it was good. We

2910
02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:44,760
Speaker 1: had a good conversation and our conversation went very well.

2911
02:24:44,840 --> 02:24:46,680
Speaker 1: So you know, I feel like, you know, that played

2912
02:24:46,680 --> 02:24:49,400
Speaker 1: affecting to them selecting me. I enjoyed talking to them.

2913
02:24:49,440 --> 02:24:51,360
Speaker 1: I enjoyed our conversation that I had with them. Man,

2914
02:24:51,600 --> 02:24:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be funny. I'm a happy, good

2915
02:24:53,879 --> 02:24:55,360
Speaker 1: part of team. You know, I want to win game

2916
02:24:55,720 --> 02:24:58,600
Speaker 1: and championships. So I'm ready to go, dray Von, even

2917
02:24:58,640 --> 02:25:01,640
Speaker 1: with it being a virtual after overall, your family still

2918
02:25:01,760 --> 02:25:03,920
Speaker 1: gets to be right next to you and you have

2919
02:25:04,160 --> 02:25:09,600
Speaker 1: that that explosive reaction from them. What was that moment, like, Oh,

2920
02:25:09,800 --> 02:25:12,039
Speaker 1: it was amazing, Like my heart dropped. When I got

2921
02:25:12,080 --> 02:25:15,360
Speaker 1: the call, I was like kind of like, I don't know.

2922
02:25:15,440 --> 02:25:17,680
Speaker 1: I kind of paused for a second, like, Wow, this

2923
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:19,720
Speaker 1: is really happened. I seen the area code pop up

2924
02:25:19,720 --> 02:25:22,000
Speaker 1: with Dallas, Texas. I said, wow, it's really happened. I

2925
02:25:22,040 --> 02:25:24,600
Speaker 1: look up on the screen. I see Chicago picking out there.

2926
02:25:24,840 --> 02:25:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Dallas is picking out of Chicago. So I

2927
02:25:26,800 --> 02:25:28,720
Speaker 1: was like, wow, I don't really about to go to

2928
02:25:29,720 --> 02:25:32,360
Speaker 1: my dream, my dream. This isn't my dream. I always

2929
02:25:32,400 --> 02:25:34,280
Speaker 1: wanted to do this, and it's just amazing. I'm happy.

2930
02:25:34,520 --> 02:25:36,360
Speaker 1: You know, my family was right there to support me

2931
02:25:36,440 --> 02:25:38,760
Speaker 1: and be there with me throughout, you know, this draft,

2932
02:25:38,840 --> 02:25:41,160
Speaker 1: and you know, just keeping me encouraged and you know,

2933
02:25:41,320 --> 02:25:44,000
Speaker 1: staying positive, geting me positive energy and just telling me

2934
02:25:44,080 --> 02:25:46,760
Speaker 1: stay patient. And you know, I'm a far where exactly

2935
02:25:46,800 --> 02:25:48,560
Speaker 1: where I want to fall, and you know, they happened.

2936
02:25:48,640 --> 02:25:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm thankful, I think God, And it's just amazing. Drev.

2937
02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:54,560
Speaker 1: And speaking of your family, I mean, you know, it's

2938
02:25:54,640 --> 02:25:57,360
Speaker 1: it's pretty normal to have a guy who's dad or

2939
02:25:57,840 --> 02:26:00,720
Speaker 1: uncle or cousin played in the league. It's pretty unique

2940
02:26:00,760 --> 02:26:02,920
Speaker 1: to talk to a guy who's brother, Your brother, Stefan

2941
02:26:03,080 --> 02:26:05,400
Speaker 1: is a is a five six year NFL veteran. What

2942
02:26:05,680 --> 02:26:09,240
Speaker 1: was that like? You know, having a guy who's who's

2943
02:26:09,320 --> 02:26:11,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now to help take you through

2944
02:26:11,760 --> 02:26:16,440
Speaker 1: this process, It's amazing. I'm just thankful because you know,

2945
02:26:16,560 --> 02:26:19,400
Speaker 1: he just did everything, like literally just did everything. Just

2946
02:26:19,560 --> 02:26:22,480
Speaker 1: did what I did in college. Now he's doing a protein.

2947
02:26:22,520 --> 02:26:25,520
Speaker 1: You know, he gave me many attempts and reminders that

2948
02:26:25,600 --> 02:26:27,320
Speaker 1: I need. You know, I can ask me like a

2949
02:26:27,680 --> 02:26:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, like a Google. He's Google to me. You know,

2950
02:26:30,200 --> 02:26:32,360
Speaker 1: he's like a father's figure to me. So you know,

2951
02:26:32,400 --> 02:26:34,520
Speaker 1: I asked me anything I want. And you know, he's

2952
02:26:34,520 --> 02:26:36,280
Speaker 1: just amazing to have him because you know, he can

2953
02:26:36,360 --> 02:26:39,160
Speaker 1: tell me everything all ins and out um and just

2954
02:26:39,280 --> 02:26:41,160
Speaker 1: helped me and guide me and you know, just help

2955
02:26:41,240 --> 02:26:43,920
Speaker 1: me grow in the NFL. And you know, I'm tremendously

2956
02:26:43,959 --> 02:26:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm tremendously thankful and you know, just blessed to have

2957
02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:49,240
Speaker 1: him and be in his position. Trayvon, you know you

2958
02:26:49,400 --> 02:26:52,080
Speaker 1: played in some big games and you you come from

2959
02:26:52,120 --> 02:26:55,879
Speaker 1: a big time program. Can you talk about the experience

2960
02:26:56,040 --> 02:26:58,640
Speaker 1: that Nick Saban and how he prepared you. I know

2961
02:26:58,800 --> 02:27:02,800
Speaker 1: he is on you those defensive backs, the techniques, things

2962
02:27:02,840 --> 02:27:06,600
Speaker 1: like that. How did that with his coaching, the big stage,

2963
02:27:06,680 --> 02:27:10,040
Speaker 1: all that prepare you for this opportunity now with the Cowboys.

2964
02:27:11,760 --> 02:27:14,160
Speaker 1: It helps out so much because he was so tight

2965
02:27:14,240 --> 02:27:16,680
Speaker 1: on me and so on me every day and just

2966
02:27:16,959 --> 02:27:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, made me a better football player, because if

2967
02:27:18,959 --> 02:27:20,760
Speaker 1: he wasn't on me like that, I just shows that

2968
02:27:20,959 --> 02:27:22,720
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't care, but it shows that he

2969
02:27:22,800 --> 02:27:24,760
Speaker 1: does care that he keeps reminding me and telling me

2970
02:27:24,840 --> 02:27:27,040
Speaker 1: things that you know, even if I corrected it before,

2971
02:27:27,080 --> 02:27:28,840
Speaker 1: He's still gonna remind me and still remind me the

2972
02:27:28,879 --> 02:27:31,040
Speaker 1: little things. You know, he expects the best out of me.

2973
02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:32,320
Speaker 1: So you know, I always got to be at my

2974
02:27:32,440 --> 02:27:34,320
Speaker 1: best on and off the field, and you know, just

2975
02:27:34,480 --> 02:27:37,000
Speaker 1: doing things right and you know, holding myself accountablees just

2976
02:27:37,280 --> 02:27:39,320
Speaker 1: building a lot of character and you know, just helping

2977
02:27:39,400 --> 02:27:41,720
Speaker 1: me grow. And you know, I thankful, thankful for him

2978
02:27:41,800 --> 02:27:44,280
Speaker 1: in the University of Alabama because everything that they do

2979
02:27:44,400 --> 02:27:47,320
Speaker 1: there is just playing a factor who I am today,

2980
02:27:47,360 --> 02:27:49,360
Speaker 1: and you know I can't be one and thankful everything

2981
02:27:49,440 --> 02:27:52,680
Speaker 1: that we did all the sprints, all the workouts, all

2982
02:27:52,760 --> 02:27:56,120
Speaker 1: the yelling, meetings, everything, it's just, you know, it's been amazing.

2983
02:27:56,280 --> 02:27:59,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'm thankful I decided to go to that

2984
02:27:59,240 --> 02:28:02,720
Speaker 1: school and play on the coach Geam. It's just been amazing.

2985
02:28:02,920 --> 02:28:06,480
Speaker 1: I think him a lot too as well. I don't

2986
02:28:06,480 --> 02:28:08,600
Speaker 1: know if my memory is failing me. You've played against

2987
02:28:08,600 --> 02:28:12,160
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, haven't you, Trevlon No, I didn't. I didn't

2988
02:28:12,160 --> 02:28:14,680
Speaker 1: get to play against Ceedee Lamb. I was hurt that

2989
02:28:14,879 --> 02:28:17,440
Speaker 1: day year when when we went to the attempment to

2990
02:28:17,600 --> 02:28:22,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He had a good game too. Okay, see

2991
02:28:22,080 --> 02:28:24,000
Speaker 1: if you had any opinions on him or any thoughts

2992
02:28:24,080 --> 02:28:26,480
Speaker 1: on him. But so for a guy who is playing

2993
02:28:26,520 --> 02:28:29,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver in just three years of cornerback to be

2994
02:28:29,560 --> 02:28:31,680
Speaker 1: drafted in the second round of the NFL Draft, that's

2995
02:28:32,080 --> 02:28:35,080
Speaker 1: that's quite an accomplishment. And it would see like that

2996
02:28:35,240 --> 02:28:37,760
Speaker 1: means your best football is certainly even ahead of you,

2997
02:28:38,360 --> 02:28:42,080
Speaker 1: even having been a really good college player. How much

2998
02:28:42,160 --> 02:28:43,960
Speaker 1: room for growth do you feel like you have in

2999
02:28:44,040 --> 02:28:48,240
Speaker 1: your game? I have femnisus amount of movement growth, and

3000
02:28:48,520 --> 02:28:50,959
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like, you know, that's that beneficial

3001
02:28:51,080 --> 02:28:54,120
Speaker 1: in my situation. Because you know I can learn. I can,

3002
02:28:54,360 --> 02:28:56,119
Speaker 1: you know, learn from the older guys. I can learn

3003
02:28:56,120 --> 02:28:57,840
Speaker 1: from my coaches, I can learn my peers. And I

3004
02:28:57,920 --> 02:29:00,360
Speaker 1: have so much room for him from me that I'm

3005
02:29:00,400 --> 02:29:02,160
Speaker 1: a worker. I'm gonna work hard and I'm gonna get

3006
02:29:02,200 --> 02:29:05,840
Speaker 1: the promises. I'm gonna get that. All right, it's Treyvon Diggs,

3007
02:29:05,840 --> 02:29:09,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys second round pick. Congratulations and welcome to the

3008
02:29:09,160 --> 02:29:13,760
Speaker 1: callous Dallas Cowboys. Treyvon, Congratulations, Trayvon, thank you so much.

3009
02:29:14,360 --> 02:29:17,760
Speaker 1: All Right, there he goes, Trayvon Diggs, your newest Dallas Cowboy,

3010
02:29:18,080 --> 02:29:23,400
Speaker 1: and from talking to him for five minutes, I like him. Yeah.

3011
02:29:23,640 --> 02:29:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm a worker, I'm a worker. I'm ready. Yeah, So

3012
02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:29,840
Speaker 1: that's good. That's great. They've had a great first couple

3013
02:29:29,879 --> 02:29:32,240
Speaker 1: of rounds. And Sirie thinks that I'm talking to her

3014
02:29:32,320 --> 02:29:35,080
Speaker 1: for some reason and I'm not. That was so close

3015
02:29:35,200 --> 02:29:38,160
Speaker 1: to being an epic callback, Jeff, because I'm right there

3016
02:29:38,200 --> 02:29:40,920
Speaker 1: with you. I would have thought Diggs played against LAMB two.

3017
02:29:40,959 --> 02:29:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like I was thinking. I was

3018
02:29:42,640 --> 02:29:44,760
Speaker 1: thinking playoff game. Did they play in a playoff game?

3019
02:29:44,840 --> 02:29:48,119
Speaker 1: AAMA plays Ou and Clemson like every season. At this point,

3020
02:29:48,360 --> 02:29:50,680
Speaker 1: Jeff defined me for help, and I was like the

3021
02:29:50,800 --> 02:29:55,880
Speaker 1: old krusty scout man. I couldn't remember. I threw my

3022
02:29:56,040 --> 02:30:00,240
Speaker 1: gave it like palms up emoji guy, and Jef said,

3023
02:30:00,240 --> 02:30:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm going Bertieway was scout. I was pretty sure. I

3024
02:30:03,000 --> 02:30:06,119
Speaker 1: was like, No, Bama and Oklahoma played in the playoff game. Yeah, yeah,

3025
02:30:06,160 --> 02:30:08,360
Speaker 1: but you're the Oklahoma fan. You should have known him.

3026
02:30:08,440 --> 02:30:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not a fan of any program. I

3027
02:30:11,520 --> 02:30:14,920
Speaker 1: am an observer of college football at the highest level,

3028
02:30:14,959 --> 02:30:18,080
Speaker 1: and I go and watch Oklahoma again. Roll By Lsu

3029
02:30:18,480 --> 02:30:21,760
Speaker 1: just accepts. He accepts Amanda's sweet tickets is what he does.

3030
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:28,760
Speaker 1: Here are the Chiefs at sixty three, with the sixty

3031
02:30:28,840 --> 02:30:33,240
Speaker 1: third pick twenty twenty NFL Draft, The Kansas City chief

3032
02:30:33,320 --> 02:30:38,800
Speaker 1: select Willie Gay, linebacker Mississippi State. Now there is a guy,

3033
02:30:39,000 --> 02:30:41,480
Speaker 1: Willie Gay junior, Dane Brugler, if you want to give

3034
02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:44,440
Speaker 1: us the scouting report and tell me if he had

3035
02:30:44,480 --> 02:30:47,240
Speaker 1: never had a suspension of any kind. Where does Willie

3036
02:30:47,240 --> 02:30:51,640
Speaker 1: Gay Junior get drafted? Yeah? Maybe snuck into the first maybe.

3037
02:30:51,760 --> 02:30:53,800
Speaker 1: You know we're talking about does he go with that

3038
02:30:54,800 --> 02:30:59,840
Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks Patrick Queen group. Because this guy's explosive and

3039
02:31:00,560 --> 02:31:03,240
Speaker 1: not only initially, but as a finisher, he will strike

3040
02:31:03,480 --> 02:31:06,800
Speaker 1: through his target. Uh. Missed most of his past year

3041
02:31:06,840 --> 02:31:09,920
Speaker 1: because it's some academic stuff. But this is a player

3042
02:31:10,000 --> 02:31:12,320
Speaker 1: who when you see him on the field, the range

3043
02:31:12,360 --> 02:31:15,039
Speaker 1: that he plays with and then he matched it at

3044
02:31:15,080 --> 02:31:18,240
Speaker 1: the combine with the testing that he did the jumps

3045
02:31:18,320 --> 02:31:20,720
Speaker 1: the forty Uh, this is a guy with a lot

3046
02:31:20,760 --> 02:31:23,400
Speaker 1: of ability. Uh, and so not surprised that he went

3047
02:31:23,440 --> 02:31:26,680
Speaker 1: off the board here in the second round. Insane athlete.

3048
02:31:27,400 --> 02:31:29,640
Speaker 1: He's got a good right, insane that to get a

3049
02:31:29,640 --> 02:31:33,840
Speaker 1: good right, a light cross, it's like a truck that regard.

3050
02:31:34,000 --> 02:31:36,480
Speaker 1: And as a tackler, yeah, he's such a fun player

3051
02:31:36,560 --> 02:31:39,080
Speaker 1: to watch. He is like seriously, you watch him on

3052
02:31:39,280 --> 02:31:43,600
Speaker 1: tape and you're like, my gosh, he is not afraid

3053
02:31:43,800 --> 02:31:47,200
Speaker 1: to step up, take on blockers, get rid of them,

3054
02:31:47,280 --> 02:31:50,920
Speaker 1: and explode on these on these ball cares. I was

3055
02:31:51,080 --> 02:31:54,360
Speaker 1: really really impressed by him. I just I was. I

3056
02:31:54,480 --> 02:31:56,520
Speaker 1: just kind of was like every time I was like,

3057
02:31:56,560 --> 02:31:58,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna make a play, He's gonna make this play again.

3058
02:31:58,480 --> 02:32:00,760
Speaker 1: He's got But it was just that how much power

3059
02:32:00,879 --> 02:32:03,440
Speaker 1: that he played with. There's very few of those middle

3060
02:32:03,480 --> 02:32:06,400
Speaker 1: linebacker type guys in this draft, but he's one of them. Yeah,

3061
02:32:06,440 --> 02:32:08,600
Speaker 1: he's the one guy you gotta look at. So the

3062
02:32:08,720 --> 02:32:11,040
Speaker 1: Chiefs have now taken Clyde Edwards to Hilaire in the

3063
02:32:11,080 --> 02:32:14,720
Speaker 1: first round, Billie Gay Junior in the second, and they

3064
02:32:14,760 --> 02:32:17,240
Speaker 1: got and they got the Lobardi Trophy last year. Yeah,

3065
02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:19,360
Speaker 1: those are nice picks for a team that doesn't really

3066
02:32:19,440 --> 02:32:21,680
Speaker 1: need a lot. Now they took they took a luxury

3067
02:32:21,760 --> 02:32:23,720
Speaker 1: pick on the best receiving back in the class, just

3068
02:32:23,840 --> 02:32:26,400
Speaker 1: to make fun of us. All like watch this. We're

3069
02:32:26,440 --> 02:32:29,000
Speaker 1: gonna score thirty eight a game, so it'll be fun

3070
02:32:29,040 --> 02:32:31,080
Speaker 1: to watch. My favorite part of that was if you

3071
02:32:31,120 --> 02:32:34,320
Speaker 1: saw the call. Veach for the Chiefs was like, yeah,

3072
02:32:34,360 --> 02:32:36,920
Speaker 1: we just asked Pat what he wanted and he told

3073
02:32:37,000 --> 02:32:42,199
Speaker 1: us he lair. Meanwhile, Aaron Rodgers gets a quarterbacks Damian

3074
02:32:42,240 --> 02:32:44,120
Speaker 1: Williams is sitting at the house like, man, that's really

3075
02:32:44,200 --> 02:32:47,280
Speaker 1: messed up. Pat, Like, I really helped you. Yeah for real.

3076
02:32:47,720 --> 02:32:50,360
Speaker 1: Damian Williams was like the Super Bowl MVP, let's be real.

3077
02:32:50,800 --> 02:32:55,840
Speaker 1: Sixty four Carolina Panthers the final pick of the second round.

3078
02:32:56,120 --> 02:32:58,520
Speaker 1: The pick is in. We will be waiting for him

3079
02:32:58,600 --> 02:33:03,520
Speaker 1: to announce that pick. Carolina Panthers. Any clues on where

3080
02:33:03,560 --> 02:33:05,840
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers might be headed. This pick's moved around

3081
02:33:05,879 --> 02:33:07,520
Speaker 1: a little bit. It went from Kansas City, then it

3082
02:33:07,640 --> 02:33:10,760
Speaker 1: was Seattle's, now it is Carolina's here at sixty four

3083
02:33:10,800 --> 02:33:14,080
Speaker 1: to end the second round. They've got defensive lineman both times, right, Yeah,

3084
02:33:14,080 --> 02:33:16,640
Speaker 1: they have they Yeah, they snagged Brown in the first

3085
02:33:16,680 --> 02:33:18,080
Speaker 1: and then they come back out and they get an

3086
02:33:18,160 --> 02:33:22,240
Speaker 1: edge rusher in the second round. Man, I would have

3087
02:33:22,280 --> 02:33:26,720
Speaker 1: said that Lynch would have been a great fit here

3088
02:33:26,840 --> 02:33:30,000
Speaker 1: for for the Panthers, reuniting him with Matt Rule out

3089
02:33:30,040 --> 02:33:32,440
Speaker 1: of Baylor. But after they went defensive line with the

3090
02:33:32,520 --> 02:33:34,640
Speaker 1: first two picks, hard to see them doing it again.

3091
02:33:35,240 --> 02:33:38,680
Speaker 1: Our guy Zack bonstill sitting there. What about safety here though,

3092
02:33:39,560 --> 02:33:45,640
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chen maybe corner, possibly corner. Secondary help. They need

3093
02:33:45,720 --> 02:33:49,080
Speaker 1: secondary help after losing Bradberry to the Giants in free agency.

3094
02:33:51,040 --> 02:33:52,720
Speaker 1: All right, well, when we get back, we will have

3095
02:33:52,920 --> 02:33:55,400
Speaker 1: the Carolina with Panthers pick and we will be moving

3096
02:33:55,440 --> 02:33:57,680
Speaker 1: into the third round. Getting ready to get to that

3097
02:33:57,760 --> 02:34:00,520
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys pick at number eighty two. Listening to the

3098
02:34:00,520 --> 02:34:02,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh five three the

3099
02:34:02,640 --> 02:34:07,440
Speaker 1: fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And here we go,

3100
02:34:07,640 --> 02:34:10,160
Speaker 1: here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Sticking with it as

3101
02:34:10,200 --> 02:34:12,680
Speaker 1: we do have the final pick here of the second

3102
02:34:12,840 --> 02:34:16,760
Speaker 1: round David Hellman and Dane Brugler here. Jeff Kavanaugh and

3103
02:34:16,800 --> 02:34:20,200
Speaker 1: Brian brought us also along with us as well. But uh, guys,

3104
02:34:20,440 --> 02:34:22,760
Speaker 1: you've got the Panthers here, and then you move into

3105
02:34:23,200 --> 02:34:25,840
Speaker 1: the third and of course the Cowboys picking at eighty two.

3106
02:34:25,879 --> 02:34:27,760
Speaker 1: We still got a long way to go until we

3107
02:34:27,840 --> 02:34:29,920
Speaker 1: get to that eighty second pick. But now you're starting

3108
02:34:29,959 --> 02:34:32,480
Speaker 1: to kind of see those names that drop that you

3109
02:34:32,520 --> 02:34:35,640
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily think, and Bond is one that continues to

3110
02:34:35,760 --> 02:34:38,640
Speaker 1: come up that is just kind of a question mark

3111
02:34:38,720 --> 02:34:42,280
Speaker 1: on why he's fallen this far. Yeah, I don't know.

3112
02:34:42,480 --> 02:34:45,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can watch his tape and

3113
02:34:45,600 --> 02:34:48,920
Speaker 1: not be excited about him. I talked about a guy

3114
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:51,920
Speaker 1: that I just kept seeing that every time that the

3115
02:34:52,000 --> 02:34:54,000
Speaker 1: ball was going away from him, I think he's not

3116
02:34:54,040 --> 02:34:56,000
Speaker 1: going to get there, but he'll make that play. You

3117
02:34:56,040 --> 02:34:58,520
Speaker 1: know ed he's got the capability. Everybody now in this

3118
02:34:58,680 --> 02:35:00,640
Speaker 1: in this day and age, is looking or that that

3119
02:35:00,840 --> 02:35:03,760
Speaker 1: linebacker that can run, that can rush. I mean, this

3120
02:35:03,959 --> 02:35:06,200
Speaker 1: is a guy that's got tools to his game. It's

3121
02:35:06,240 --> 02:35:08,360
Speaker 1: just not just that one trick pony guy. As we

3122
02:35:08,480 --> 02:35:11,000
Speaker 1: say in scouting, here's a guy that's got something to

3123
02:35:11,120 --> 02:35:14,400
Speaker 1: his game. And and maybe maybe teams are thinking more

3124
02:35:14,480 --> 02:35:18,560
Speaker 1: about the deluded sample. Maybe maybe that's what's going on now.

3125
02:35:18,879 --> 02:35:21,400
Speaker 1: Brian broad Us, who loves the player, is saying he's

3126
02:35:21,400 --> 02:35:23,960
Speaker 1: trying to keep waterway all that stuff like that. But

3127
02:35:24,120 --> 02:35:27,600
Speaker 1: with the collective bargaining agreement the way it is, i mean,

3128
02:35:27,959 --> 02:35:30,800
Speaker 1: if a guy's got a deluded test, don't you kind

3129
02:35:30,800 --> 02:35:33,280
Speaker 1: of like going? And so I would be like, I've

3130
02:35:33,320 --> 02:35:34,960
Speaker 1: done that. I've made a whole career. I've made a

3131
02:35:35,000 --> 02:35:38,000
Speaker 1: whole career looking away from the deluded test. I'm like,

3132
02:35:38,080 --> 02:35:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, give you the guy, give me that guy.

3133
02:35:39,720 --> 02:35:41,880
Speaker 1: Y'all take the deluded test. Brian, Yeah, do you know

3134
02:35:42,040 --> 02:35:45,160
Speaker 1: do you know who picks after Carolina? Can you see Cincinnati?

3135
02:35:49,280 --> 02:35:51,720
Speaker 1: You know what, there's your team that's not afraid. Yeah.

3136
02:35:51,760 --> 02:35:53,760
Speaker 1: I always in my media, guy, I'm gonna say I

3137
02:35:53,879 --> 02:35:57,560
Speaker 1: worked with the Cincinnati Bengals. I'm just gonna lie. I'm

3138
02:35:57,600 --> 02:36:00,200
Speaker 1: gonna lie that I work for the Cincinnati Bengals, you know,

3139
02:36:00,480 --> 02:36:03,520
Speaker 1: because that's my team. When they just they don't care,

3140
02:36:03,640 --> 02:36:07,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they're basic out Borrow, Yeah, why not? Why not?

3141
02:36:07,680 --> 02:36:11,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think it must be now teams

3142
02:36:11,600 --> 02:36:14,080
Speaker 1: are worried about what happened to him at the combine.

3143
02:36:14,360 --> 02:36:16,880
Speaker 1: And that's a shame that that's the case. But and

3144
02:36:16,959 --> 02:36:19,040
Speaker 1: I thought we would now the collective bargaining. I've said

3145
02:36:19,080 --> 02:36:21,840
Speaker 1: it before. Can't be out there messing with the crippler. Yeah,

3146
02:36:22,240 --> 02:36:27,120
Speaker 1: Mike Fisher, the crippler aft there messing with the crippler. Yeah. Uh,

3147
02:36:27,280 --> 02:36:30,960
Speaker 1: just to reset the board. Top five available players on

3148
02:36:31,160 --> 02:36:34,440
Speaker 1: my board, h Josh Jones tackle out of Houston, Yeah,

3149
02:36:34,959 --> 02:36:39,040
Speaker 1: Linebacker Zach Vaughn, Lloyd Cushionberry guards center out of LSU,

3150
02:36:39,680 --> 02:36:42,400
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chinn, safety out of Southern Illinois, and then Justin

3151
02:36:42,520 --> 02:36:45,480
Speaker 1: Mattaboutca defensive tackle out of Texas A and m Yeah,

3152
02:36:45,480 --> 02:36:47,760
Speaker 1: there must be something wrong with him too, you know

3153
02:36:48,000 --> 02:36:50,120
Speaker 1: that those character stuff. Well here, yes, we got the

3154
02:36:50,200 --> 02:36:53,720
Speaker 1: picks in. Let's see what happens here with the commissioner

3155
02:36:53,760 --> 02:36:59,640
Speaker 1: in Carolina. Uh. And the last of second round, there's

3156
02:36:59,680 --> 02:37:02,119
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chin. There you go, Jeremy Chin off the board.

3157
02:37:03,120 --> 02:37:06,160
Speaker 1: Call that one you say I did? I didn't say Chin, Yeah,

3158
02:37:06,200 --> 02:37:10,640
Speaker 1: I said, I said position Dane was the one that guys,

3159
02:37:11,000 --> 02:37:12,480
Speaker 1: we were we were tag team in that one. But

3160
02:37:12,560 --> 02:37:14,360
Speaker 1: that is the final pick of the second round. Now

3161
02:37:14,440 --> 02:37:17,920
Speaker 1: you have the Bengals up, and with the Bengals past history,

3162
02:37:18,040 --> 02:37:21,240
Speaker 1: like David alluded to just a moment ago, you're thinking

3163
02:37:21,360 --> 02:37:25,120
Speaker 1: Zach Bond here saying they're not afraid, They're never afraid.

3164
02:37:25,320 --> 02:37:27,920
Speaker 1: Is there an Ohio player on the board still here?

3165
02:37:28,040 --> 02:37:30,400
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking a big ten player, you know what

3166
02:37:30,400 --> 02:37:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean. The Brown family's all about that as big ten.

3167
02:37:33,400 --> 02:37:37,959
Speaker 1: This could be this could be Bonde. So wait, the Bengals.

3168
02:37:38,000 --> 02:37:40,800
Speaker 1: The Bengals went with Higgins at the start of this thing,

3169
02:37:40,959 --> 02:37:43,600
Speaker 1: right right right, Yeah, And I sat there and said,

3170
02:37:44,200 --> 02:37:47,520
Speaker 1: they need a tackle, and here I'm thinking they should

3171
02:37:47,600 --> 02:37:51,920
Speaker 1: draft Josh Jones thirty three. Yeah, and he's still sitting here. Okay,

3172
02:37:51,959 --> 02:37:55,520
Speaker 1: that's what I would. Okay, Now, what's wrong with Josh Jones? Seriously?

3173
02:37:55,640 --> 02:37:57,520
Speaker 1: What is wrong with I mean, he's raw, right, but

3174
02:37:57,720 --> 02:38:02,480
Speaker 1: so what he guy? He has some character stuff earlier

3175
02:38:02,480 --> 02:38:04,000
Speaker 1: in his career, but I heard, you know, being a

3176
02:38:04,040 --> 02:38:05,880
Speaker 1: red Shard senior, he was passed all of that. So

3177
02:38:05,920 --> 02:38:09,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how much that plays in um he

3178
02:38:10,040 --> 02:38:11,879
Speaker 1: I'll put it this way. When you watched him on tape.

3179
02:38:11,879 --> 02:38:14,199
Speaker 1: Do you remember the best pass rusher you saw him

3180
02:38:14,240 --> 02:38:19,160
Speaker 1: go against? That was Marius Hamilton. That was unt zone,

3181
02:38:19,920 --> 02:38:23,640
Speaker 1: So I'll throw that out there. That was my biggest

3182
02:38:23,640 --> 02:38:26,480
Speaker 1: worry with Josh Jones is all of his tape. I

3183
02:38:26,640 --> 02:38:29,240
Speaker 1: just didn't see him go up against a big time

3184
02:38:29,280 --> 02:38:32,360
Speaker 1: pass rusher. That made made me get really really jacked

3185
02:38:32,400 --> 02:38:34,200
Speaker 1: about what he could do. Now, he did a nice

3186
02:38:34,240 --> 02:38:37,400
Speaker 1: job of the Senior Bowl, but still the tape was good,

3187
02:38:37,520 --> 02:38:42,240
Speaker 1: but the competition level wasn't necessarily there. Yeah, and that's

3188
02:38:42,360 --> 02:38:43,920
Speaker 1: that's something you always got to worry about with those

3189
02:38:43,920 --> 02:38:46,600
Speaker 1: American Conference teams that don't play a strong out of

3190
02:38:46,680 --> 02:38:50,760
Speaker 1: conference schedule. Maybe Oklahoma would probably be his his toughest.

3191
02:38:50,920 --> 02:38:53,160
Speaker 1: And I don't think that was great tape overall for

3192
02:38:53,280 --> 02:38:55,720
Speaker 1: Josh Jones. But there's a couple on board here. We

3193
02:38:55,840 --> 02:38:59,240
Speaker 1: just lost Logan Wilson to the Cincinnati Bengals. Smart pick

3194
02:38:59,440 --> 02:39:05,240
Speaker 1: yep A smart pick. The twenty twenty NFL Draft continues

3195
02:39:05,520 --> 02:39:08,800
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five three

3196
02:39:08,920 --> 02:39:14,240
Speaker 1: the Fan. We are into Round three of the NFL

3197
02:39:14,400 --> 02:39:19,440
Speaker 1: Draft and we just had Wyoming's linebacker Logan Wilson go

3198
02:39:19,560 --> 02:39:22,520
Speaker 1: off the board to the Cincinnati Bengals at number sixty five,

3199
02:39:23,160 --> 02:39:26,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys pick at eighty two, and Logan Wilson. I think

3200
02:39:26,080 --> 02:39:28,040
Speaker 1: the biggest knock that I had on him was that

3201
02:39:28,160 --> 02:39:30,920
Speaker 1: he played at Wyoming. I mean, you want production, you

3202
02:39:31,000 --> 02:39:33,119
Speaker 1: want a guy, make him plays in coverage and against

3203
02:39:33,160 --> 02:39:37,080
Speaker 1: the run and tackling. Logan Wilson is a really good player.

3204
02:39:37,160 --> 02:39:40,360
Speaker 1: Making it all the way to sixty five. He's a

3205
02:39:40,400 --> 02:39:42,400
Speaker 1: great player. And I think if I don't want to

3206
02:39:42,440 --> 02:39:44,920
Speaker 1: bring the room down again, but I'm going to because

3207
02:39:45,280 --> 02:39:48,040
Speaker 1: the blanket of the team now. Four of the last

3208
02:39:48,160 --> 02:39:50,080
Speaker 1: five picks have been guys that you would argue that

3209
02:39:50,200 --> 02:39:52,800
Speaker 1: you really wanted to fall to eighty two. You've got Fulton,

3210
02:39:52,840 --> 02:39:55,400
Speaker 1: Willie Gay, Junior, Jeremy chinon Logan Wilson. Those are four

3211
02:39:55,440 --> 02:39:58,160
Speaker 1: guys that they would have gone to eighty two. I

3212
02:39:58,200 --> 02:40:00,280
Speaker 1: would have been excited about. Who are you saying, NA about?

3213
02:40:00,280 --> 02:40:03,440
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Jeremy Chin wasn't gonna be the pick

3214
02:40:03,600 --> 02:40:06,920
Speaker 1: in Dallas. That's I just I don't believe he's gone

3215
02:40:06,959 --> 02:40:09,039
Speaker 1: now anyway, But I don't go as our fast food

3216
02:40:09,160 --> 02:40:13,280
Speaker 1: bet true and then and and my point and Logan Wilson,

3217
02:40:13,760 --> 02:40:15,920
Speaker 1: I think he's a good player, But it feels too

3218
02:40:16,000 --> 02:40:19,000
Speaker 1: early for a linebacker for me. I'm looking at linebackers

3219
02:40:19,040 --> 02:40:21,680
Speaker 1: on Day three, so I'm not sad about him going

3220
02:40:21,720 --> 02:40:24,520
Speaker 1: off the board. All Right, you guys want to reset.

3221
02:40:24,560 --> 02:40:26,959
Speaker 1: I know Dane set us up with his top five

3222
02:40:27,040 --> 02:40:30,360
Speaker 1: available recently. I've got my top five available for the

3223
02:40:30,480 --> 02:40:34,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys that I would like to see picked. That's left

3224
02:40:34,120 --> 02:40:35,800
Speaker 1: in the draft right now. If you're following at home,

3225
02:40:35,840 --> 02:40:42,240
Speaker 1: we'll get it after the Washington pick. Right here. Gibson

3226
02:40:42,959 --> 02:40:47,840
Speaker 1: running back, Memphis running back slash, wide receiver, slash. Get

3227
02:40:47,920 --> 02:40:49,840
Speaker 1: the ball in the dude's hands and let him work.

3228
02:40:50,000 --> 02:40:52,720
Speaker 1: Very much like Tony Pollard last year Memphis. Different players,

3229
02:40:53,320 --> 02:40:55,640
Speaker 1: but same sort of thing. Get the ball in Antonio

3230
02:40:55,720 --> 02:40:58,480
Speaker 1: Gibson's hand and let him work. And I think that

3231
02:40:58,640 --> 02:41:00,920
Speaker 1: that is what Washington is going to do. He's a

3232
02:41:00,959 --> 02:41:04,000
Speaker 1: pretty good one day. How's your scouting report on Antonio Gibson?

3233
02:41:04,440 --> 02:41:06,119
Speaker 1: Just get the ball in his hands, and I think

3234
02:41:06,160 --> 02:41:08,119
Speaker 1: what's the that's the debate. Is he a running back?

3235
02:41:08,240 --> 02:41:10,480
Speaker 1: Is he a receiver? All I know is when he

3236
02:41:10,560 --> 02:41:13,000
Speaker 1: had a chance to do something with the ball, he

3237
02:41:13,080 --> 02:41:15,880
Speaker 1: would create. And this is a He's a big guy

3238
02:41:16,520 --> 02:41:19,280
Speaker 1: at six foot two, hundred and twenty eight pounds, really

3239
02:41:19,360 --> 02:41:21,800
Speaker 1: good athlete. Ran in the leave. He got in the

3240
02:41:21,840 --> 02:41:25,240
Speaker 1: four threes at the combine four three nine. So if

3241
02:41:25,320 --> 02:41:27,039
Speaker 1: you want to use him in a slot, you want

3242
02:41:27,080 --> 02:41:28,800
Speaker 1: to use him my jet sweeps, you want to use

3243
02:41:28,879 --> 02:41:30,960
Speaker 1: him out of the backfield. You can get creative with

3244
02:41:31,000 --> 02:41:33,640
Speaker 1: a player like this, and I think his best football

3245
02:41:33,680 --> 02:41:37,640
Speaker 1: is ahead of him. So my top five guys for

3246
02:41:37,720 --> 02:41:39,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, And tell me if you guys want to

3247
02:41:39,360 --> 02:41:41,440
Speaker 1: add names or if you disagree with them, but where

3248
02:41:41,520 --> 02:41:45,600
Speaker 1: we sit right now, Zach Bond like it at Wisconsin,

3249
02:41:46,920 --> 02:41:50,840
Speaker 1: Justin Mattabuke at A and M that'd be great, Jordan

3250
02:41:50,879 --> 02:41:58,039
Speaker 1: Elliott at Missouri, Terrell Burgess at Utah, and Akeem Davis Gaither.

3251
02:41:58,280 --> 02:42:00,520
Speaker 1: That's my top five guys available to think are at

3252
02:42:00,560 --> 02:42:02,960
Speaker 1: positions that could help the Cowboys. And I think there's

3253
02:42:02,959 --> 02:42:05,240
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those guys there because even with

3254
02:42:05,400 --> 02:42:07,440
Speaker 1: some of the names that are falling here, like a

3255
02:42:07,560 --> 02:42:10,360
Speaker 1: Josh Jones and an Ashton Davis, that's still on the board.

3256
02:42:10,600 --> 02:42:13,200
Speaker 1: And Prince Tega went on, I want to go from

3257
02:42:13,440 --> 02:42:16,360
Speaker 1: from Auburn. I mean, there's still picks to be made here,

3258
02:42:16,480 --> 02:42:19,160
Speaker 1: even quarterbacks that haven't gone, think about this might be

3259
02:42:19,280 --> 02:42:22,199
Speaker 1: the sweet spot for a Jake from or a Jacob

3260
02:42:22,240 --> 02:42:25,480
Speaker 1: Easton to potentially go. I think there's some I would

3261
02:42:25,520 --> 02:42:29,920
Speaker 1: throw Neville Gallimore in there, that's true, Um, Julian Aquara

3262
02:42:30,200 --> 02:42:32,920
Speaker 1: from noted, Yeah, for sure, they'll sitting there. I would

3263
02:42:33,000 --> 02:42:35,720
Speaker 1: even How do y'all feel about is it? Is it

3264
02:42:35,800 --> 02:42:44,119
Speaker 1: too soon to talk about Zooniga Florida za Zooigay? Yeah,

3265
02:42:44,240 --> 02:42:46,560
Speaker 1: he would be a guy I would consider. I thought

3266
02:42:46,600 --> 02:42:49,080
Speaker 1: the traits I was worried about. I might have missed

3267
02:42:49,120 --> 02:42:52,040
Speaker 1: something there. I have him a lot higher than people do.

3268
02:42:52,600 --> 02:42:54,920
Speaker 1: But I was watching the Florida tape of him, and

3269
02:42:55,080 --> 02:42:57,120
Speaker 1: I was seeing the first step quickness. I've seen a

3270
02:42:57,160 --> 02:42:59,600
Speaker 1: guy getting around the edge. I've seen a guy being disruptive.

3271
02:43:00,080 --> 02:43:02,920
Speaker 1: So I might be way way high on him. Yeah,

3272
02:43:02,920 --> 02:43:04,880
Speaker 1: I wish he wasn't so banged up in this in

3273
02:43:04,959 --> 02:43:08,520
Speaker 1: this most recent season. But so those are some Those

3274
02:43:08,520 --> 02:43:11,240
Speaker 1: are some defensive linemen. And then we hit on the centers.

3275
02:43:11,440 --> 02:43:13,560
Speaker 1: I don't think they need to do it. They have

3276
02:43:13,680 --> 02:43:17,760
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern obviously, Joe Looney's here, but I mean every

3277
02:43:17,879 --> 02:43:21,280
Speaker 1: center except for Caesar Ruiz is there. Lloyd Cushionberry Tyler

3278
02:43:21,360 --> 02:43:24,760
Speaker 1: beats Matt Hennessey, So if they want to do that,

3279
02:43:24,920 --> 02:43:28,280
Speaker 1: they can. But I mean, for the most part, I think, Jeff,

3280
02:43:28,320 --> 02:43:31,080
Speaker 1: your list is is pretty solid. Well, thank you, thank you, Dave.

3281
02:43:31,120 --> 02:43:33,280
Speaker 1: How are we? How's everybody on Cameron Danceler? Did the

3282
02:43:33,360 --> 02:43:35,320
Speaker 1: forty scare you like it did me? I've got him

3283
02:43:35,320 --> 02:43:38,240
Speaker 1: bottom a second early third, but I'm here, I got

3284
02:43:38,280 --> 02:43:40,360
Speaker 1: I pushed him down with a forty time. I'd be

3285
02:43:40,440 --> 02:43:42,240
Speaker 1: okay with him at eighty two though, if he's the

3286
02:43:42,560 --> 02:43:46,320
Speaker 1: best available there corner wise, I swear to god i'd

3287
02:43:46,360 --> 02:43:48,360
Speaker 1: gone already address corner that I'd have gone to start

3288
02:43:48,400 --> 02:43:50,360
Speaker 1: field and got him running a lot faster. Boys, I'm

3289
02:43:50,400 --> 02:43:54,640
Speaker 1: not talking four three faster. They said, Yeah, I don't.

3290
02:43:54,760 --> 02:43:58,200
Speaker 1: It was the thirty eight yard time he was faster.

3291
02:43:58,800 --> 02:44:01,040
Speaker 1: How can you? How can you know? Watch that tape

3292
02:44:01,080 --> 02:44:03,080
Speaker 1: and like be impressed by the way he played? Was

3293
02:44:03,240 --> 02:44:05,360
Speaker 1: he does? He played well? Everybody's like, oh, he's a

3294
02:44:05,440 --> 02:44:07,360
Speaker 1: second round guy, and then he runs bad. Jeff goes,

3295
02:44:07,400 --> 02:44:09,240
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, he's in the fourth for me. Now,

3296
02:44:10,400 --> 02:44:16,240
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, Jamara, he didn't play Sloan, not at all. Yeah,

3297
02:44:16,760 --> 02:44:20,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I work with a bunch of Cowards, that's

3298
02:44:20,280 --> 02:44:23,480
Speaker 1: where he goes. I would feel fine drafting him at

3299
02:44:23,520 --> 02:44:27,240
Speaker 1: eighty two. But we're starting to get into a spot

3300
02:44:27,320 --> 02:44:29,720
Speaker 1: where I can you know, we're getting close enough to

3301
02:44:29,760 --> 02:44:31,760
Speaker 1: the point where you can envision what the board's gonna

3302
02:44:31,800 --> 02:44:34,039
Speaker 1: look like. And I'm not convinced he would be your

3303
02:44:34,080 --> 02:44:36,440
Speaker 1: best available option. I mean, I think there's other names

3304
02:44:36,480 --> 02:44:39,280
Speaker 1: there that are more intrigued. Did we say say Okuara? Yeah,

3305
02:44:39,440 --> 02:44:42,560
Speaker 1: yeah we did. Okay, I'm sure he might be. I'm sorry.

3306
02:44:42,800 --> 02:44:48,279
Speaker 1: I would for me. For me, I think Oquara Gallimore

3307
02:44:48,879 --> 02:44:52,040
Speaker 1: and Jordan Elliott, oh and Bond obviously, like Bond is

3308
02:44:52,080 --> 02:44:54,879
Speaker 1: probably tops, but those are the names that really stand

3309
02:44:54,959 --> 02:44:56,840
Speaker 1: out to me right now. Burgess is my name that

3310
02:44:56,959 --> 02:44:59,680
Speaker 1: stands out. Yeah, scooped him up, Just scooped him up.

3311
02:44:59,720 --> 02:45:01,720
Speaker 1: This more learning Dane scooped him in the mock draft.

3312
02:45:01,760 --> 02:45:04,680
Speaker 1: And I think getting a safety in here with coverage ability,

3313
02:45:05,080 --> 02:45:08,800
Speaker 1: reliable tackler, versatility, Yeah, I think for a team that's

3314
02:45:08,840 --> 02:45:10,960
Speaker 1: got two safeties on a one year deal right now,

3315
02:45:11,120 --> 02:45:13,440
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods and Haha, Clinton Dicks. If the right guy

3316
02:45:13,560 --> 02:45:16,560
Speaker 1: is there, and to me, that's the right guy at safety,

3317
02:45:16,840 --> 02:45:20,280
Speaker 1: He's be happy with that. Has Detroit addressed their edge

3318
02:45:20,360 --> 02:45:23,960
Speaker 1: rush problem because they need an edge rusher, and I

3319
02:45:24,040 --> 02:45:26,640
Speaker 1: don't think they've picked one because they selected a Kuda.

3320
02:45:26,760 --> 02:45:28,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, and they took DeAndre Swift in the

3321
02:45:28,840 --> 02:45:31,960
Speaker 1: second round. So edge rusher man. Yeah, they might go,

3322
02:45:32,080 --> 02:45:35,360
Speaker 1: they might go not yeah, they might take Aquara here. Yeah.

3323
02:45:36,760 --> 02:45:39,680
Speaker 1: Curtis Weaver still out there as well. Oh, I didn't remember.

3324
02:45:39,760 --> 02:45:42,360
Speaker 1: I forgot about Curtis Weaver. Dane, were you okay with

3325
02:45:42,480 --> 02:45:46,760
Speaker 1: him standing up all the time as a rusher? Weaver? Yeah, uh,

3326
02:45:47,080 --> 02:45:50,440
Speaker 1: he's he's tough to figure out. Bad body guys. Yeah,

3327
02:45:51,360 --> 02:45:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, he's predictable, but really good with his hands

3328
02:45:54,560 --> 02:45:57,959
Speaker 1: and you can't ignore the productions. So the Commissiers Dane

3329
02:45:57,959 --> 02:46:02,560
Speaker 1: real quick twenty NFL draft the Detroit Lions. So like

3330
02:46:03,560 --> 02:46:08,840
Speaker 1: Julian Ouah minebacker notre Day. I am a fan of

3331
02:46:08,959 --> 02:46:11,240
Speaker 1: Julian Aquara. I had him as a second round guy.

3332
02:46:11,320 --> 02:46:14,240
Speaker 1: I think the tools to be a really good pass rusher.

3333
02:46:14,360 --> 02:46:17,520
Speaker 1: I think he's got him. I think the athletic ability,

3334
02:46:17,720 --> 02:46:21,160
Speaker 1: the movement, skills, the length. I liked a lot about him.

3335
02:46:21,840 --> 02:46:23,680
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was gonna make eighty two, but

3336
02:46:23,720 --> 02:46:24,840
Speaker 1: it would have been a lot of fun if he

3337
02:46:24,920 --> 02:46:30,680
Speaker 1: did so, Julian o'quara, Dane, you're scouting report there. I

3338
02:46:30,840 --> 02:46:33,000
Speaker 1: really struggled with him because I think you're you're spot

3339
02:46:33,080 --> 02:46:36,920
Speaker 1: on with the traits and the natural ability. The speed

3340
02:46:37,440 --> 02:46:39,160
Speaker 1: has a chance to be special off the edge, but

3341
02:46:39,640 --> 02:46:42,240
Speaker 1: he has no idea how to use his hands. He's

3342
02:46:42,240 --> 02:46:45,000
Speaker 1: a little soft in the run game. That really bothered me.

3343
02:46:45,680 --> 02:46:48,800
Speaker 1: And I hate using that sword when talking about these

3344
02:46:48,840 --> 02:46:52,520
Speaker 1: guys because that's kind of a it's a cuss word. Yeah,

3345
02:46:52,560 --> 02:46:54,800
Speaker 1: it's not it's not nice, and so I apologize, but

3346
02:46:55,240 --> 02:46:57,000
Speaker 1: it's what you see, that's what the tape says. And

3347
02:46:58,760 --> 02:47:02,400
Speaker 1: it's just too many, almost most plays on his tape,

3348
02:47:02,560 --> 02:47:04,120
Speaker 1: you know. And so but you know, we're in the

3349
02:47:04,200 --> 02:47:06,560
Speaker 1: third round now, and so we're talking about traits, we're

3350
02:47:06,600 --> 02:47:10,200
Speaker 1: talking about upside of potential and what he can be. Uh.

3351
02:47:10,360 --> 02:47:13,119
Speaker 1: You know, the Lions are very familiar with the Acora family.

3352
02:47:13,160 --> 02:47:16,400
Speaker 1: They had his brother. Uh they still have them, don't they. Yeah,

3353
02:47:16,480 --> 02:47:18,960
Speaker 1: he's is he still in the roster? You're still on

3354
02:47:19,000 --> 02:47:20,600
Speaker 1: the roster. I was trying to look that up right now,

3355
02:47:20,640 --> 02:47:23,720
Speaker 1: and I think you're very familiar with with that family.

3356
02:47:24,080 --> 02:47:27,080
Speaker 1: In the the ability that he has also a Notre

3357
02:47:27,160 --> 02:47:29,880
Speaker 1: Dame product, by the way, his brother. So now we

3358
02:47:29,959 --> 02:47:32,080
Speaker 1: got the New York Jets on the clock where it

3359
02:47:32,200 --> 02:47:36,960
Speaker 1: picks sixty eight Cowboys at eighty two. We're looking at

3360
02:47:37,680 --> 02:47:42,080
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, which is a Lion's head coach, while the

3361
02:47:42,200 --> 02:47:44,400
Speaker 1: Jets are on the clock. So that's kind of confusing.

3362
02:47:44,520 --> 02:47:47,280
Speaker 1: Or I guess it's at the aftermath of their pick. Yeah, okay,

3363
02:47:47,440 --> 02:47:49,920
Speaker 1: that makes more sense. So we're waiting on a Jets pick.

3364
02:47:50,000 --> 02:47:52,640
Speaker 1: Then it'll be Seattle and then Miami. We're here in

3365
02:47:52,720 --> 02:47:55,160
Speaker 1: the early part of the third round of the draft

3366
02:47:55,200 --> 02:47:56,920
Speaker 1: here on one O five three The Fan and Dallas

3367
02:47:57,040 --> 02:48:00,760
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com. New York Jets so far have added

3368
02:48:00,840 --> 02:48:05,080
Speaker 1: McKay Beckton to play offensive tackle. They've added Denzel Mims

3369
02:48:05,240 --> 02:48:08,160
Speaker 1: to play wide receiver out of Baylor, and this will

3370
02:48:08,200 --> 02:48:11,680
Speaker 1: be their third pick of the draft. Outside of what

3371
02:48:11,760 --> 02:48:14,600
Speaker 1: they've already addressed on the offensive line and at wide receiver,

3372
02:48:15,120 --> 02:48:22,280
Speaker 1: where else might we think they're going cornerback help? They

3373
02:48:22,400 --> 02:48:24,840
Speaker 1: need corner in the worst way. And you know I

3374
02:48:24,959 --> 02:48:27,080
Speaker 1: mentioned it before. I don't think their fans could name

3375
02:48:27,160 --> 02:48:29,200
Speaker 1: the top three corners on their rosters. So it picks

3376
02:48:29,280 --> 02:48:36,200
Speaker 1: in Dance Ashton Davis say it's gone Ashton Davis. I

3377
02:48:36,240 --> 02:48:38,160
Speaker 1: think he could play a little bit of cornerback. I

3378
02:48:38,200 --> 02:48:40,320
Speaker 1: mean he looks like a corners two hundred pounds, So

3379
02:48:40,879 --> 02:48:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't think that's necessarily this is him. Just put

3380
02:48:44,640 --> 02:48:47,800
Speaker 1: him at safety and that's it. Uh. They might be

3381
02:48:47,840 --> 02:48:49,880
Speaker 1: able to look at him as a nickelback, someone that

3382
02:48:49,959 --> 02:48:53,000
Speaker 1: can play a little inside, a little outside. Ashton Davis

3383
02:48:53,000 --> 02:48:55,240
Speaker 1: is a fun player. All right. Here's my problem with

3384
02:48:55,360 --> 02:48:57,720
Speaker 1: the Ashton Davis pick. I have a huge problem with

3385
02:48:57,800 --> 02:49:00,640
Speaker 1: this pick. He's not account you wanted him. No, I

3386
02:49:00,800 --> 02:49:03,720
Speaker 1: was fine with him going like Burgess actually better than Davis.

3387
02:49:03,760 --> 02:49:05,240
Speaker 1: I might be the only one, but I'm okay with that.

3388
02:49:06,040 --> 02:49:08,280
Speaker 1: Burgess to me, now is going to be the next

3389
02:49:08,320 --> 02:49:12,840
Speaker 1: safety picked. Are there other options that could be the

3390
02:49:12,920 --> 02:49:15,320
Speaker 1: next safety pick that could keep him moving down the board.

3391
02:49:15,600 --> 02:49:19,360
Speaker 1: What if somebody likes Wallace from Wallace Wallace from Clemson,

3392
02:49:19,400 --> 02:49:21,800
Speaker 1: because if you watch him play, he plays like a

3393
02:49:21,920 --> 02:49:25,400
Speaker 1: slot player too. You know that weird? You get confused

3394
02:49:25,440 --> 02:49:28,120
Speaker 1: watching Clemson's defense. Yeah, I mean they do things with

3395
02:49:28,200 --> 02:49:30,600
Speaker 1: their secondary. You're like, oh, that's not sound, you know,

3396
02:49:30,760 --> 02:49:33,720
Speaker 1: but yeah, no they don't. But they get away with

3397
02:49:33,760 --> 02:49:35,840
Speaker 1: it because they get their front home because they got

3398
02:49:35,879 --> 02:49:39,000
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. Yeah, they got guys to get Yeah, I

3399
02:49:39,080 --> 02:49:42,959
Speaker 1: mean besides Burgess, you got Brandon Jones out of Texas, Yeah,

3400
02:49:44,400 --> 02:49:48,760
Speaker 1: out of Iowa, Tanner Music, Clemson. Stone's a good player, though.

3401
02:49:48,800 --> 02:49:51,960
Speaker 1: I like Stone. My safety's left goes Burgess and then Stone.

3402
02:49:52,040 --> 02:49:56,560
Speaker 1: And my next guy is actually the XFL guy, Robinson Robinson. Yeah,

3403
02:49:56,560 --> 02:49:58,920
Speaker 1: I forget about him. I like Kenny Robinson and then

3404
02:49:59,000 --> 02:50:03,040
Speaker 1: Cavan Wallace and then Brandon Jones. But I worried that

3405
02:50:03,360 --> 02:50:07,120
Speaker 1: Burgess maybe the next safety off the board. And so we'll, uh,

3406
02:50:07,440 --> 02:50:10,640
Speaker 1: we'll keep track of just that's fine. Just push Sackbon

3407
02:50:10,760 --> 02:50:13,080
Speaker 1: all the way down. Just push Sackbon all the way

3408
02:50:13,120 --> 02:50:16,119
Speaker 1: to eighty two. And let's see. Could you imagine if

3409
02:50:16,240 --> 02:50:18,080
Speaker 1: Zach Bond was there at eighty two and you know,

3410
02:50:18,840 --> 02:50:21,920
Speaker 1: Lamb Trayvon Diggs and Zach Bond as your draft class

3411
02:50:21,959 --> 02:50:25,000
Speaker 1: in days one and two. I wouldn't mind that at all.

3412
02:50:25,080 --> 02:50:27,960
Speaker 1: In another linebacker, I'll take app State to Keem Davis

3413
02:50:28,040 --> 02:50:30,320
Speaker 1: Gaither and if you want to try him strong safety,

3414
02:50:30,520 --> 02:50:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm at Snyder's about to pick him. Watch. John is

3415
02:50:33,640 --> 02:50:36,439
Speaker 1: gonna take a guy that can run, you know, linebackers

3416
02:50:36,520 --> 02:50:38,840
Speaker 1: that can run. Harry took one in the first round, though,

3417
02:50:38,879 --> 02:50:41,760
Speaker 1: well he doesn't care. You know, he doesn't care. In

3418
02:50:41,840 --> 02:50:46,440
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select Amien

3419
02:50:46,560 --> 02:50:54,200
Speaker 1: Lewis Guards. There you go, damiens player drafted so far.

3420
02:50:54,360 --> 02:50:58,640
Speaker 1: I think no Delpit went to Cleveland guys. Oh yeah,

3421
02:50:59,120 --> 02:51:03,520
Speaker 1: thank you. Second round Damian Lewis round scouting report from

3422
02:51:03,600 --> 02:51:07,560
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler. Massive guy, and this is someone that the

3423
02:51:07,920 --> 02:51:12,120
Speaker 1: LSU coaching style loves because of the meaner that he

3424
02:51:12,200 --> 02:51:15,440
Speaker 1: plays with, toughness. You don't see a lot of negative

3425
02:51:15,480 --> 02:51:18,200
Speaker 1: reps on his tape. Not the most mobile guy. You're

3426
02:51:18,240 --> 02:51:20,400
Speaker 1: not gonna ask him to be on the move very much.

3427
02:51:20,480 --> 02:51:23,080
Speaker 1: He'll bury you, yeah, in his phone and in his

3428
02:51:23,200 --> 02:51:25,800
Speaker 1: little phone booth. Yeah, you're right. He will beat you

3429
02:51:26,000 --> 02:51:28,920
Speaker 1: up and and bury you to the ground. So he's

3430
02:51:28,959 --> 02:51:30,640
Speaker 1: a fun player. Yeah. I think he had to make

3431
02:51:30,640 --> 02:51:32,880
Speaker 1: a lot of plays because Christian Berry was kind of

3432
02:51:33,280 --> 02:51:37,640
Speaker 1: if he had time. I'm just saying that I sat

3433
02:51:37,720 --> 02:51:40,360
Speaker 1: next to cow I'm just saying now, boys are definitely

3434
02:51:40,440 --> 02:51:43,480
Speaker 1: drafting Christian Berry. Now if they do. If they do, great,

3435
02:51:43,600 --> 02:51:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean, will crack a Miller light if they draft

3436
02:51:47,280 --> 02:51:50,360
Speaker 1: I just just a wide bass guy. I'm sorry, I'm

3437
02:51:50,400 --> 02:51:52,240
Speaker 1: just don't. I mean, I see a catcher there. I

3438
02:51:52,320 --> 02:51:54,600
Speaker 1: just don't. I like the I like the other guy

3439
02:51:54,640 --> 02:51:56,720
Speaker 1: better from Temple. But hey, we'll see. Are we here? You?

3440
02:51:56,879 --> 02:51:59,560
Speaker 1: We saw you just swerved out. Have you swerved out

3441
02:51:59,600 --> 02:52:02,039
Speaker 1: of your plane to fire a shot at cushion? John's

3442
02:52:02,040 --> 02:52:05,560
Speaker 1: put on some weight? What's going on? Oh? Wow, get

3443
02:52:05,640 --> 02:52:10,080
Speaker 1: on friends, You get on soda for six months and

3444
02:52:10,120 --> 02:52:13,080
Speaker 1: start taking shots at people's weight. Text him, text him

3445
02:52:13,080 --> 02:52:17,400
Speaker 1: and tell me fat. Say I said you're fat? I

3446
02:52:17,480 --> 02:52:20,320
Speaker 1: will I got just no Braw'll show you that he was.

3447
02:52:20,440 --> 02:52:23,640
Speaker 1: He's kind of wearing that football. Football guys who have

3448
02:52:23,760 --> 02:52:26,640
Speaker 1: let themselves go love to wear that wet pants now.

3449
02:52:26,680 --> 02:52:29,560
Speaker 1: They just love to wear that like windbreaker outfits, like

3450
02:52:29,840 --> 02:52:34,720
Speaker 1: the like the ambiguous windbreaker thing. It doesn't really have

3451
02:52:34,920 --> 02:52:40,360
Speaker 1: sleeves up, No sleeves just kind of hangs down. I just,

3452
02:52:40,680 --> 02:52:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not surprised because the Seahawks offensive line

3453
02:52:44,040 --> 02:52:46,520
Speaker 1: has been trying to get Russell Wilson killed for years.

3454
02:52:46,600 --> 02:52:49,960
Speaker 1: But I feel like they've added about nineteen old linemen

3455
02:52:50,040 --> 02:52:52,600
Speaker 1: to that roster just this offseason alone. We get the

3456
02:52:52,680 --> 02:52:55,240
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins on the clock at seventy we are working

3457
02:52:55,320 --> 02:52:58,560
Speaker 1: our way towards eighty two, will come back with the

3458
02:52:58,680 --> 02:53:01,840
Speaker 1: Dolphins pick, and then seventy one, seventy two, and all

3459
02:53:01,920 --> 02:53:03,840
Speaker 1: the way down to eighty two. You're listening to the

3460
02:53:03,879 --> 02:53:06,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh five three The

3461
02:53:06,480 --> 02:53:12,360
Speaker 1: Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And here's the internet

3462
02:53:12,440 --> 02:53:15,800
Speaker 1: side of things, as once again, I feel like this

3463
02:53:16,000 --> 02:53:19,440
Speaker 1: is every twenty minutes, but the Miami Miami Dolphins are

3464
02:53:19,520 --> 02:53:21,760
Speaker 1: on the clock again, believe it or not, because they've

3465
02:53:21,800 --> 02:53:24,200
Speaker 1: got just a handful of picks. Throughout the course of

3466
02:53:24,280 --> 02:53:28,280
Speaker 1: the draft, Cowboys just about outside of that range where

3467
02:53:28,280 --> 02:53:31,080
Speaker 1: we can start seeing how the board is shaping up.

3468
02:53:31,200 --> 02:53:34,640
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomen's Jeff Kavanaugh, Brian brought us, David Hellman and

3469
02:53:34,800 --> 02:53:37,040
Speaker 1: the great Dane Brugler with you here on the Dallas

3470
02:53:37,080 --> 02:53:41,119
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Draft show. And of course, with eleven

3471
02:53:41,200 --> 02:53:43,520
Speaker 1: picks left, there's a lot of things that can happen,

3472
02:53:43,600 --> 02:53:47,000
Speaker 1: but there are some really interesting names still available. Zach Bond,

3473
02:53:47,520 --> 02:53:55,600
Speaker 1: Curtis Weaver, Justin Mattabeke, Brandon Jones in like, excuse me,

3474
02:53:55,680 --> 02:53:57,920
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh was saying a little bit earlier. There's some safeties

3475
02:53:57,959 --> 02:54:02,360
Speaker 1: there that have some have some oomph to them if

3476
02:54:02,440 --> 02:54:05,320
Speaker 1: you're talking about Tarell Burgess maybe in that category as well.

3477
02:54:05,400 --> 02:54:08,360
Speaker 1: So with the Dolphins on the clock here, they've had

3478
02:54:08,400 --> 02:54:11,280
Speaker 1: one of the more intriguing drafts because they've kind of

3479
02:54:11,400 --> 02:54:14,000
Speaker 1: gone outside of the realm of what we thought could happen.

3480
02:54:14,080 --> 02:54:16,520
Speaker 1: What do you think maybe again here with the Dolphins

3481
02:54:16,640 --> 02:54:20,080
Speaker 1: at seventy, we got to work through all the picks

3482
02:54:20,160 --> 02:54:22,400
Speaker 1: that they've already made. I know it's tough. You got

3483
02:54:22,520 --> 02:54:25,560
Speaker 1: to go back through chapters. Yeah, quarterback to h they

3484
02:54:25,640 --> 02:54:29,279
Speaker 1: took Austin Jackson at offensive tackle, Noah Igbanogny at corner

3485
02:54:32,640 --> 02:54:37,560
Speaker 1: illstimate tackle here, ray Kuan Davis at defensive tackle. Fortunately,

3486
02:54:37,640 --> 02:54:41,840
Speaker 1: that team needs everything. If linebackers one of those things,

3487
02:54:42,640 --> 02:54:45,760
Speaker 1: Zach Bonn or Akeem Davis gaither, they would be at

3488
02:54:45,800 --> 02:54:48,720
Speaker 1: the top of my board for the linebackers. Harrison at

3489
02:54:48,760 --> 02:54:52,760
Speaker 1: Ohio State at linebacker. Right now, they've got ray Kwon

3490
02:54:52,879 --> 02:54:55,680
Speaker 1: McMillan and Jerome Bakers or linebackers, and I don't think

3491
02:54:55,680 --> 02:55:00,840
Speaker 1: they're feeling super great about that right So that being said,

3492
02:55:01,040 --> 02:55:03,320
Speaker 1: I could see them going linebacker here. You can maybe

3493
02:55:03,360 --> 02:55:05,800
Speaker 1: say safety because I didn't hear a safety mentioned in there.

3494
02:55:05,800 --> 02:55:07,680
Speaker 1: They haven't taken one of them. They took a corner.

3495
02:55:07,720 --> 02:55:10,800
Speaker 1: We're trying to dodge that here, Kyle's on purpose. We're

3496
02:55:10,840 --> 02:55:13,440
Speaker 1: trying to dodge that. Kyle trying to get Drell Burgess there. Okay,

3497
02:55:13,560 --> 02:55:15,760
Speaker 1: I want Terrell Burgess there, and I don't want him

3498
02:55:15,760 --> 02:55:17,560
Speaker 1: to be the next safety picked. I would rather be

3499
02:55:17,680 --> 02:55:20,800
Speaker 1: like a Brandon Jones or uh, I don't even know

3500
02:55:21,040 --> 02:55:24,240
Speaker 1: who we mentioned earlier in that con zone. Yeah, Gino Stone,

3501
02:55:24,240 --> 02:55:26,440
Speaker 1: that's fine, Yeah, that's fine, let him go and we'll

3502
02:55:26,560 --> 02:55:30,959
Speaker 1: we'll take Terrell Burgess. But I mean, I think linebacker

3503
02:55:31,080 --> 02:55:33,240
Speaker 1: or safety is probably where they could go here. Could

3504
02:55:33,240 --> 02:55:38,480
Speaker 1: they add a wide receiver? Maybe? Yeah, they could. Yeah,

3505
02:55:38,600 --> 02:55:41,240
Speaker 1: who's everybody's top wide receiver? Left? I bet this is where.

3506
02:55:41,840 --> 02:55:43,400
Speaker 1: I bet this is where it gets really fun because

3507
02:55:43,400 --> 02:55:46,400
Speaker 1: for me, it's actually kJ Hill, then Brian Edwards, then

3508
02:55:46,440 --> 02:55:49,720
Speaker 1: Antonio Gandy Gold. Those are my top three receivers. Give

3509
02:55:49,760 --> 02:55:54,240
Speaker 1: me Edward, yeah, I would. I think you guys are

3510
02:55:54,280 --> 02:55:56,200
Speaker 1: hating on a great route runner in kJ Hill and

3511
02:55:56,280 --> 02:56:00,520
Speaker 1: not appreciate it. I love kJ Hill to death, but

3512
02:56:00,680 --> 02:56:03,000
Speaker 1: I can't draft a guy that runs I've got six

3513
02:56:03,200 --> 02:56:05,560
Speaker 1: five in the third round, I've got an incredible round

3514
02:56:05,600 --> 02:56:09,520
Speaker 1: there where it's got Prochet duven at Van Jefferson was

3515
02:56:09,600 --> 02:56:12,640
Speaker 1: in that group along with kJ Hill and Bowden. That

3516
02:56:12,760 --> 02:56:14,880
Speaker 1: was kind of Limboden Junior is my name. That was

3517
02:56:14,959 --> 02:56:16,880
Speaker 1: kind of my little group of like, oh, I'm kind

3518
02:56:16,920 --> 02:56:19,240
Speaker 1: of keeping an eye on you guys over here. I'm

3519
02:56:19,280 --> 02:56:22,000
Speaker 1: really sad about I'm really sad that I just have

3520
02:56:22,160 --> 02:56:25,280
Speaker 1: to let go of all these receivers. I mean, I'd

3521
02:56:25,360 --> 02:56:27,280
Speaker 1: rather have Ceedee lamb. Don't get me wrong, but like

3522
02:56:27,440 --> 02:56:31,080
Speaker 1: I've been, I've been watching this position for months and

3523
02:56:31,800 --> 02:56:34,400
Speaker 1: maybe they double up on receiver, but it's not as

3524
02:56:34,480 --> 02:56:36,760
Speaker 1: high of a priority. I mean it's the fifty burger

3525
02:56:36,840 --> 02:56:40,920
Speaker 1: offensive thing, yeah for real. But Brian Edwards before Ceedee

3526
02:56:41,000 --> 02:56:43,240
Speaker 1: Lamb fell, Brian Edwards would have been a pipe dream

3527
02:56:43,280 --> 02:56:45,119
Speaker 1: at eighty two. I would have loved that pick. Yeah,

3528
02:56:45,200 --> 02:56:49,920
Speaker 1: Brandon Jones just went we did. We got a different safety.

3529
02:56:49,959 --> 02:56:55,240
Speaker 1: You go, all right, suckers. Yes, I like Brandon Jones.

3530
02:56:55,280 --> 02:56:56,520
Speaker 1: I had him be in the fourth though, But I

3531
02:56:56,680 --> 02:56:59,360
Speaker 1: like Brandon Jones. But Roll Burges I got his two three,

3532
02:56:59,440 --> 02:57:02,600
Speaker 1: so hey, there hang their burges Cam interested because Jeff

3533
02:57:02,640 --> 02:57:04,480
Speaker 1: and I were split on this guy, Dane as far

3534
02:57:04,760 --> 02:57:06,680
Speaker 1: can he cover or can he not cover? I don't

3535
02:57:06,720 --> 02:57:09,760
Speaker 1: trust him in coverage. Yeah, I think you're I think

3536
02:57:09,800 --> 02:57:13,400
Speaker 1: you're right. I think you want him. I wasn't impressed

3537
02:57:13,400 --> 02:57:15,640
Speaker 1: with him as a nickel, but the closer he was

3538
02:57:15,760 --> 02:57:17,640
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, that's where I liked him because

3539
02:57:17,720 --> 02:57:20,440
Speaker 1: I thought he did a nice job with the play

3540
02:57:20,520 --> 02:57:22,959
Speaker 1: in front of him. But when he had to turn

3541
02:57:23,040 --> 02:57:24,960
Speaker 1: his back to the ball, that's where I think, Yeah,

3542
02:57:24,959 --> 02:57:26,720
Speaker 1: I got a little money. I just kind of thought

3543
02:57:26,760 --> 02:57:28,240
Speaker 1: that he was a little bit of a better cover

3544
02:57:28,400 --> 02:57:31,199
Speaker 1: guy than and and he's got an athletic ability. Jeff

3545
02:57:31,240 --> 02:57:33,360
Speaker 1: and I were going back and forth because people were

3546
02:57:33,400 --> 02:57:36,320
Speaker 1: asking us about him, you know, on our during our show,

3547
02:57:36,480 --> 02:57:38,760
Speaker 1: like what what's your problem with Brandon Jones? And I'm like,

3548
02:57:39,000 --> 02:57:42,280
Speaker 1: I think the guy can cover, yeah, But Jeff is like,

3549
02:57:42,320 --> 02:57:44,520
Speaker 1: I'd rather see him play down is where he and

3550
02:57:44,640 --> 02:57:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, it looks like the highlights are showing a

3551
02:57:46,080 --> 02:57:48,119
Speaker 1: little bit. That looks like they're showing a little coverage.

3552
02:57:48,600 --> 02:57:50,120
Speaker 1: He just needs to keep the ball in front of him.

3553
02:57:50,160 --> 02:57:51,840
Speaker 1: I think if the ball, if he has to turn

3554
02:57:51,920 --> 02:57:53,840
Speaker 1: his back to the ball, That's where I thought he

3555
02:57:53,959 --> 02:57:56,160
Speaker 1: just he looked lost. So as long I think he

3556
02:57:56,200 --> 02:57:58,040
Speaker 1: could play high, as long as the ball stays in

3557
02:57:58,080 --> 02:58:01,280
Speaker 1: front of him, well him up like Jabrill Peppers, like

3558
02:58:01,360 --> 02:58:04,000
Speaker 1: forty five yards off the line. Here you go. Just

3559
02:58:04,080 --> 02:58:07,280
Speaker 1: get ready to be a punt returners, a safety. I

3560
02:58:07,400 --> 02:58:09,959
Speaker 1: like that plan. So what do we got? We got

3561
02:58:10,040 --> 02:58:13,879
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens up at seventy one, working our way

3562
02:58:13,879 --> 02:58:16,240
Speaker 1: to eighty two or Terrell Burgess will be on the board.

3563
02:58:16,879 --> 02:58:20,920
Speaker 1: This is the twenty twenty NFL Draft with Jeff Kavanaugh.

3564
02:58:21,200 --> 02:58:25,720
Speaker 1: Prian brought us Dane Hellman, Dane Brugler, and Kyle Yeoman niece.

3565
02:58:26,000 --> 02:58:28,280
Speaker 1: They lost to safety, but it was Brandon Jones, not

3566
02:58:28,480 --> 02:58:35,360
Speaker 1: Terrell Burgess. Here's Baltimore selection Justin Matta Bouque, defensive tackle

3567
02:58:35,640 --> 02:58:37,760
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. That would be a guy that

3568
02:58:37,920 --> 02:58:39,840
Speaker 1: is coming off of the list of guys I would

3569
02:58:39,879 --> 02:58:42,400
Speaker 1: love to see the Cowboys pick up at eighty two.

3570
02:58:42,560 --> 02:58:46,520
Speaker 1: Mada Bouque. I was. I was really high on his tape.

3571
02:58:46,600 --> 02:58:48,320
Speaker 1: I had him. I liked him at the top of

3572
02:58:48,360 --> 02:58:50,360
Speaker 1: the second round, and here we are in the middle

3573
02:58:50,360 --> 02:58:52,800
Speaker 1: of the third where he goes and it goes to

3574
02:58:53,040 --> 02:58:55,960
Speaker 1: I think Dane and Brian some of the things that

3575
02:58:57,000 --> 02:58:58,720
Speaker 1: you hear about that I don't get to find out

3576
02:58:58,840 --> 02:59:01,760
Speaker 1: when I just watched tape. But on tape, man, I

3577
02:59:01,879 --> 02:59:04,720
Speaker 1: love the tools you have. I love was he six

3578
02:59:04,760 --> 02:59:07,080
Speaker 1: and a half sacks back to back years, back to

3579
02:59:07,120 --> 02:59:09,520
Speaker 1: back years of double digit tackles for loss. I think

3580
02:59:09,560 --> 02:59:12,080
Speaker 1: he can win early. I think he can pressure the quarterback.

3581
02:59:12,600 --> 02:59:15,720
Speaker 1: And he's off the board at number seventy one. Well,

3582
02:59:15,760 --> 02:59:18,240
Speaker 1: it's funny. I was talking to a scout about George

3583
02:59:18,320 --> 02:59:21,360
Speaker 1: Elliott at a Missouri defensive tackle and Matt Bouquet saying,

3584
02:59:21,879 --> 02:59:24,800
Speaker 1: these guys got some talent they flash on tape. Had

3585
02:59:24,800 --> 02:59:26,840
Speaker 1: the scout kind of look at me, or actually he

3586
02:59:26,840 --> 02:59:28,200
Speaker 1: didn't look at me as over the phone, and he

3587
02:59:28,360 --> 02:59:29,840
Speaker 1: kind of I could hear in his voice though he

3588
02:59:29,959 --> 02:59:33,640
Speaker 1: was yeah. And the interviews did not go well for

3589
02:59:33,680 --> 02:59:36,680
Speaker 1: those two players and for different teams. So but the

3590
02:59:36,800 --> 02:59:38,520
Speaker 1: Ravens what do they do? They sit and they wait

3591
02:59:38,600 --> 02:59:40,520
Speaker 1: and good players fall to them. And this is a

3592
02:59:40,600 --> 02:59:44,720
Speaker 1: power packed player, twitchy, he can rush, he can make

3593
02:59:44,760 --> 02:59:49,080
Speaker 1: plays in the run game or against the run. There's

3594
02:59:49,080 --> 02:59:51,680
Speaker 1: a lot to like about what he offers. I think

3595
02:59:51,720 --> 02:59:53,440
Speaker 1: that this is a guy I've said all along that

3596
02:59:53,480 --> 02:59:56,960
Speaker 1: I probably could be the wrong most wrong about you know,

3597
02:59:56,959 --> 02:59:59,560
Speaker 1: because I went back and forth on him about the

3598
02:59:59,640 --> 03:00:02,200
Speaker 1: twitch athlete and things like that, and then I just

3599
03:00:02,320 --> 03:00:04,640
Speaker 1: saw like lack of awareness. Like there were times you

3600
03:00:04,680 --> 03:00:06,600
Speaker 1: watched him the Clemson game, he got trapped like four

3601
03:00:06,680 --> 03:00:09,240
Speaker 1: times in a row and they never figured it out.

3602
03:00:09,640 --> 03:00:11,680
Speaker 1: So I was kind of like going, gosh, dang, man,

3603
03:00:11,760 --> 03:00:13,240
Speaker 1: are you getting tired of getting hit in the side

3604
03:00:13,280 --> 03:00:15,760
Speaker 1: of the head. You know, play with your hands, keep

3605
03:00:15,800 --> 03:00:18,480
Speaker 1: that outside shoulder free. And then you know, but he's

3606
03:00:18,840 --> 03:00:21,720
Speaker 1: one of those guys. Dang's right though he can create turnovers.

3607
03:00:21,800 --> 03:00:24,880
Speaker 1: He can. He's got athletic ability. He just doesn't show

3608
03:00:24,920 --> 03:00:26,880
Speaker 1: it enough. That's what bothered him. Here's here's a pick

3609
03:00:26,920 --> 03:00:30,440
Speaker 1: from the commissioner for the Arizona Cardinal Josh Jones, that

3610
03:00:30,720 --> 03:00:34,879
Speaker 1: finally took long enough. There is a free fall ending

3611
03:00:34,959 --> 03:00:36,720
Speaker 1: there for a guy that I had seen in some

3612
03:00:36,879 --> 03:00:39,520
Speaker 1: first round mox. It'll be Josh Jones there to the

3613
03:00:39,680 --> 03:00:43,080
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals at seventy two. So I played the you know,

3614
03:00:43,160 --> 03:00:46,120
Speaker 1: I played the game that draft nerds love to play,

3615
03:00:46,160 --> 03:00:48,240
Speaker 1: where you pick your top thirty two players that you

3616
03:00:48,320 --> 03:00:50,600
Speaker 1: think have the best chance to go in the first round.

3617
03:00:51,400 --> 03:00:54,960
Speaker 1: Here it picks seventy two. I finally crossed them all off,

3618
03:00:55,360 --> 03:00:59,359
Speaker 1: which I'm not an expert expert, so I'm not surprised

3619
03:00:59,360 --> 03:01:01,440
Speaker 1: that it took. So I am surprised that the last

3620
03:01:01,520 --> 03:01:03,960
Speaker 1: guy to go is Josh Jones. I would not have

3621
03:01:04,080 --> 03:01:06,880
Speaker 1: guessed that heading into the draft. Well, and this is

3622
03:01:07,280 --> 03:01:09,920
Speaker 1: a guy who was even though he was at Houston,

3623
03:01:10,000 --> 03:01:12,720
Speaker 1: he was recruited by Tom Herman to Houston. You got

3624
03:01:12,840 --> 03:01:15,720
Speaker 1: to think about whenever back when before Tom was the

3625
03:01:16,000 --> 03:01:19,320
Speaker 1: head coach of Texas and according to Pro Football Focus,

3626
03:01:19,360 --> 03:01:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the grade they have of him right now,

3627
03:01:21,080 --> 03:01:24,080
Speaker 1: and he was graded above a ninety three in almost

3628
03:01:24,120 --> 03:01:27,440
Speaker 1: every category. And so I like Josh Jones. I actually

3629
03:01:27,480 --> 03:01:29,040
Speaker 1: met him at the combine, which was kind of fun

3630
03:01:29,160 --> 03:01:31,840
Speaker 1: in the airport. He was on my flight, but he

3631
03:01:32,000 --> 03:01:34,800
Speaker 1: was unpredictable on his tape with his hands, and I

3632
03:01:34,879 --> 03:01:38,240
Speaker 1: think that kept defensive linemen off balance. But we kind

3633
03:01:38,240 --> 03:01:41,360
Speaker 1: of talked about it earlier. Those defensive linemen were not

3634
03:01:41,520 --> 03:01:44,520
Speaker 1: necessarily the top of the cream of the crop. It

3635
03:01:44,640 --> 03:01:48,039
Speaker 1: was the American Athletic Conference. It was guys like Ladarius

3636
03:01:48,080 --> 03:01:50,160
Speaker 1: Hamilton from You and T and then also you you

3637
03:01:50,480 --> 03:01:53,240
Speaker 1: throw in maybe Oklahoma there as well. So I'm not

3638
03:01:54,040 --> 03:01:56,560
Speaker 1: surprised that he fell, but I'm surprised he fell this

3639
03:01:56,720 --> 03:02:00,160
Speaker 1: far is kind of where I met Greed. Yeah, and

3640
03:02:00,480 --> 03:02:02,720
Speaker 1: I mentioned how you watch his tape and it was

3641
03:02:02,760 --> 03:02:05,000
Speaker 1: hard to get too excited about the competition he was

3642
03:02:05,080 --> 03:02:07,640
Speaker 1: going up against. That was my biggest issue with him.

3643
03:02:07,720 --> 03:02:10,840
Speaker 1: But in past protection, he just didn't get beat very often.

3644
03:02:10,959 --> 03:02:13,920
Speaker 1: And so you see light feet, you see the ability

3645
03:02:14,080 --> 03:02:18,280
Speaker 1: to mirror in space. Not a bully, not a guy

3646
03:02:18,360 --> 03:02:20,840
Speaker 1: that's going to overwhelm at the point of attack, but

3647
03:02:21,160 --> 03:02:25,520
Speaker 1: just a solid player who surprised in his tackle starved league.

3648
03:02:25,760 --> 03:02:27,920
Speaker 1: Surprised he would last this long into the third, But

3649
03:02:28,200 --> 03:02:31,560
Speaker 1: look at the Cardinals get Isaiah Simmons in the first

3650
03:02:31,600 --> 03:02:34,120
Speaker 1: and then they don't pick again until a third. They

3651
03:02:34,200 --> 03:02:36,280
Speaker 1: had to feel pretty good about landing Josh Jones at

3652
03:02:36,320 --> 03:02:39,120
Speaker 1: this point. I actually, I think on Thursday night day

3653
03:02:39,120 --> 03:02:41,080
Speaker 1: and I said, how can you go away from a

3654
03:02:41,160 --> 03:02:43,600
Speaker 1: tackle if you don't pick until the third count? Twell,

3655
03:02:44,160 --> 03:02:46,959
Speaker 1: it worked out for him. This guy's a really good athlete, though,

3656
03:02:47,080 --> 03:02:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I was just going through my notes and

3657
03:02:48,720 --> 03:02:52,160
Speaker 1: how he plays with range. He gets the second level easy.

3658
03:02:52,400 --> 03:02:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the contact balance was good. I mean, I

3659
03:02:56,400 --> 03:03:00,520
Speaker 1: was just I thought that the athletic ability allowed him

3660
03:03:00,560 --> 03:03:04,360
Speaker 1: to overcome any technical issues that he might have, you know,

3661
03:03:04,600 --> 03:03:06,600
Speaker 1: So I was I was impressed by this Scott. I

3662
03:03:06,640 --> 03:03:08,720
Speaker 1: thought maybe he'd get a little top heavy at times,

3663
03:03:09,240 --> 03:03:12,200
Speaker 1: but I mean he gets away with it just because

3664
03:03:12,200 --> 03:03:15,160
Speaker 1: of how good of an athlete he is. So now

3665
03:03:15,240 --> 03:03:18,680
Speaker 1: we're at seventy three with the Jacksonville Jaguars. We're within

3666
03:03:18,879 --> 03:03:23,800
Speaker 1: ten picks of the Dallas Cowboys and trying to whittle

3667
03:03:23,920 --> 03:03:27,040
Speaker 1: these names down and see if we can't hone in

3668
03:03:27,160 --> 03:03:29,280
Speaker 1: on a couple of guys that would make sense for them.

3669
03:03:29,400 --> 03:03:32,480
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start throwing out the names again. Zach Bonn,

3670
03:03:34,000 --> 03:03:37,040
Speaker 1: that's the big one. Is that name still getting closer?

3671
03:03:37,440 --> 03:03:42,840
Speaker 1: Zach Bonn, A Keem Davis Gaither, MALIEK. Harrison. Those are

3672
03:03:42,920 --> 03:03:47,280
Speaker 1: my top three linebackers remaining. Terrell Burgess at safety out

3673
03:03:47,360 --> 03:03:50,960
Speaker 1: of Utah, Jordan Elliott at de tackle out of Missouri,

3674
03:03:51,800 --> 03:03:55,720
Speaker 1: Terrell Lewis pass rusher from Bama, Curtis Weaver pass rusher

3675
03:03:55,800 --> 03:04:01,240
Speaker 1: from Boise, and then I guess in Neville Gallimore, the

3676
03:04:01,320 --> 03:04:05,600
Speaker 1: Oklahoma defensive tackle. I've got Harrison Bryant, the tight end

3677
03:04:05,720 --> 03:04:08,320
Speaker 1: going around this area. I'm a big fan of his

3678
03:04:08,879 --> 03:04:11,600
Speaker 1: and Cushionberry. That's the names I would throw out there

3679
03:04:12,680 --> 03:04:15,600
Speaker 1: when I add anything to the pile. I'm still working

3680
03:04:15,640 --> 03:04:18,680
Speaker 1: off my top fifty one I've got. As I look

3681
03:04:18,720 --> 03:04:20,880
Speaker 1: at my number, Zach Bond would be at twenty seven,

3682
03:04:21,520 --> 03:04:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm Ben, and then Cameron Danzler would be at forty four.

3683
03:04:25,040 --> 03:04:29,080
Speaker 1: Jabari Zagina would be at forty five, and then a

3684
03:04:29,240 --> 03:04:31,680
Speaker 1: Keem gather Davis would be at forty nine, and in

3685
03:04:31,760 --> 03:04:34,840
Speaker 1: Matt Hennessee at fifty. So that's kind of where I'm at.

3686
03:04:34,920 --> 03:04:38,040
Speaker 1: That's a center, a defensive end. Two linebackers on a

3687
03:04:38,160 --> 03:04:41,800
Speaker 1: corner is what I'm looking at off my top fifty one. Okay, guys,

3688
03:04:41,800 --> 03:04:44,200
Speaker 1: I want to play Devil's advocate here for a split second.

3689
03:04:44,920 --> 03:04:49,880
Speaker 1: What about quarterback? Second or third round? I know there's

3690
03:04:49,920 --> 03:04:52,320
Speaker 1: plenty of names here. I would personally not even touch it.

3691
03:04:52,480 --> 03:04:57,520
Speaker 1: Here's my theory on backup quarterback. If you're firing off

3692
03:04:57,680 --> 03:05:00,240
Speaker 1: one of your fifth round picks, because is if he

3693
03:05:00,320 --> 03:05:02,160
Speaker 1: played a couple of games and played well or looked

3694
03:05:02,200 --> 03:05:04,640
Speaker 1: good in preseason, maybe you could flip that later for

3695
03:05:04,720 --> 03:05:08,400
Speaker 1: a two or three suite. But if you're picking him

3696
03:05:08,440 --> 03:05:11,880
Speaker 1: in the third round, especially with names there, can you

3697
03:05:12,400 --> 03:05:16,400
Speaker 1: really build that guy's stock. He's probably not gonna play.

3698
03:05:17,320 --> 03:05:20,360
Speaker 1: But even if he did, are you really gonna up

3699
03:05:20,640 --> 03:05:23,160
Speaker 1: what that value from a third round pick in a

3700
03:05:23,320 --> 03:05:25,760
Speaker 1: game or two or in some preseason games. I get

3701
03:05:25,800 --> 03:05:28,520
Speaker 1: it with a five or a six, But with a three,

3702
03:05:28,920 --> 03:05:31,000
Speaker 1: what if not unless I'm thinking I'm picking a guy

3703
03:05:31,040 --> 03:05:32,960
Speaker 1: who might start Let me ask you this, just in

3704
03:05:33,040 --> 03:05:35,640
Speaker 1: a thought about the quarterback. What if you did take

3705
03:05:35,680 --> 03:05:38,960
Speaker 1: a guy like from and and he's like a career

3706
03:05:39,080 --> 03:05:42,480
Speaker 1: backup guy, you know, like DA's Dak gets signed, but

3707
03:05:42,680 --> 03:05:46,000
Speaker 1: you have a good, stable backup guy that's not gonna

3708
03:05:46,080 --> 03:05:50,040
Speaker 1: cause problems and stuff like that. You know, does that

3709
03:05:50,160 --> 03:05:58,880
Speaker 1: make sense? No? D You know? I mean, okay, who's like,

3710
03:05:59,080 --> 03:06:01,680
Speaker 1: who's the best? Is your Is your quarterback signed long

3711
03:06:01,800 --> 03:06:04,720
Speaker 1: term right now? David? No, he's not. Okay, then then

3712
03:06:04,920 --> 03:06:08,240
Speaker 1: you should be really quiet right now because why because

3713
03:06:08,640 --> 03:06:12,560
Speaker 1: because he under contract? He is he is he under

3714
03:06:12,600 --> 03:06:17,560
Speaker 1: club control. Okay, he's under you want do you want

3715
03:06:17,560 --> 03:06:19,760
Speaker 1: to continue to go down the path of every year

3716
03:06:19,879 --> 03:06:22,080
Speaker 1: having a franchise tag the guy? No, I want to

3717
03:06:22,240 --> 03:06:27,360
Speaker 1: sign him? Okay, as he signed. No, why is he

3718
03:06:27,480 --> 03:06:30,080
Speaker 1: not signed? Why is he not signed? The because money

3719
03:06:30,240 --> 03:06:33,600
Speaker 1: is a b. It's not money, Dave. It's years. It's

3720
03:06:33,680 --> 03:06:36,000
Speaker 1: four years or five years, is what it is. And

3721
03:06:36,080 --> 03:06:39,720
Speaker 1: you're not willing to to to and and what Jake

3722
03:06:39,840 --> 03:06:41,960
Speaker 1: from is going to be your leverage to fix this

3723
03:06:42,120 --> 03:06:44,760
Speaker 1: magical situation. I am just saying though that if you,

3724
03:06:44,920 --> 03:06:46,720
Speaker 1: if you thought enough of the guy to do that

3725
03:06:46,800 --> 03:06:49,560
Speaker 1: as a starting quarterback, if this guy, if this guy

3726
03:06:49,600 --> 03:06:51,720
Speaker 1: didn't sign with you, I don't think you could discount

3727
03:06:51,840 --> 03:06:54,600
Speaker 1: now me personally, I would go out and sign that.

3728
03:06:54,800 --> 03:06:56,520
Speaker 1: I'd go out and signed the kid it was at Tampa,

3729
03:06:56,879 --> 03:06:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, or or that that's who I would go sign. Yeah,

3730
03:06:59,480 --> 03:07:01,240
Speaker 1: I would go sign jameis Wits. If you want to

3731
03:07:01,240 --> 03:07:02,800
Speaker 1: play and still out there, Yeah, if you want to

3732
03:07:02,800 --> 03:07:05,360
Speaker 1: play a round with me at quarterback, that's fine. You know,

3733
03:07:05,440 --> 03:07:06,960
Speaker 1: if you want to hold me up and you know

3734
03:07:07,080 --> 03:07:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make you a decent offer. Okay. Who

3735
03:07:09,840 --> 03:07:12,680
Speaker 1: are like? Who are like the best career backups in

3736
03:07:12,760 --> 03:07:15,760
Speaker 1: the NFL over the last like decade or or or

3737
03:07:16,000 --> 03:07:18,800
Speaker 1: maybe more. Culton McCoy keeps hanging around, didn't he? Yeah?

3738
03:07:20,640 --> 03:07:25,840
Speaker 1: Nick Foles, I had Super Bowl. Well what did another

3739
03:07:25,920 --> 03:07:29,879
Speaker 1: team in the NFC East do in the second round? Yeah,

3740
03:07:29,920 --> 03:07:33,000
Speaker 1: their guy can't stay on the field. Well, our guy

3741
03:07:33,160 --> 03:07:36,240
Speaker 1: never leaves the field. I'm just saying. I also doesn't

3742
03:07:36,280 --> 03:07:39,560
Speaker 1: have a contract though, Yeah, exactly, he does have a contract.

3743
03:07:39,680 --> 03:07:43,040
Speaker 1: He has a one year contract. No, not kind of,

3744
03:07:43,160 --> 03:07:45,960
Speaker 1: he's under club control. I understand he'll play for the Cowboy.

3745
03:07:46,840 --> 03:07:49,000
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, it's not Jake fromp But I'm just

3746
03:07:49,120 --> 03:07:53,520
Speaker 1: saying you, no, I'm just saying that even worse. No, No,

3747
03:07:53,680 --> 03:07:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if you, if you don't look at

3748
03:07:56,080 --> 03:08:00,280
Speaker 1: your quarterback situation, then you've got your head in the sand. Miss.

3749
03:08:00,560 --> 03:08:03,480
Speaker 1: They absolutely should draft a guy. They should do it

3750
03:08:03,600 --> 03:08:06,120
Speaker 1: with one of the last Let's take again who I

3751
03:08:06,240 --> 03:08:08,680
Speaker 1: was really wrong about? Yeah, so what it didn't work out?

3752
03:08:08,800 --> 03:08:11,400
Speaker 1: It's it's low risk. What's what like? What's what are

3753
03:08:11,400 --> 03:08:14,840
Speaker 1: you gonna get from Jake? From what is realistically gonna happen.

3754
03:08:14,959 --> 03:08:18,560
Speaker 1: You will not get a lot of picks, Like, you

3755
03:08:18,680 --> 03:08:20,280
Speaker 1: won't get a lot of picks for him, or he

3756
03:08:20,320 --> 03:08:21,800
Speaker 1: won't throw a lot of picks. He won't throw a

3757
03:08:21,840 --> 03:08:23,720
Speaker 1: lot of picks. It's the best I got on from

3758
03:08:24,520 --> 03:08:26,000
Speaker 1: He will not throw a lot of a lot of

3759
03:08:26,080 --> 03:08:28,920
Speaker 1: games the SEC. He'll be responsible with the football. You

3760
03:08:29,000 --> 03:08:32,720
Speaker 1: have a twenty six year old quarterback who has very

3761
03:08:32,959 --> 03:08:35,560
Speaker 1: rarely Basically the last month of last season was the

3762
03:08:35,640 --> 03:08:39,280
Speaker 1: only time he's ever shown wear and tearror. Jacksonville pick

3763
03:08:39,640 --> 03:08:41,879
Speaker 1: is in Dave, and then I want you and Brian

3764
03:08:41,920 --> 03:08:44,400
Speaker 1: to keep fighting because I love it. Here's the seventy

3765
03:08:44,480 --> 03:08:48,440
Speaker 1: third pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft. The Jacksonville

3766
03:08:48,480 --> 03:08:54,760
Speaker 1: Jaguars select the Von Hamilton. Those tackle Ohio State. Okay,

3767
03:08:54,879 --> 03:08:57,240
Speaker 1: there you go, defensive linemen off the board that you

3768
03:08:57,320 --> 03:08:59,880
Speaker 1: could have seen the Cowboys being interested in Guy to

3769
03:09:00,200 --> 03:09:02,560
Speaker 1: play the one technique for you, a little bit of

3770
03:09:02,640 --> 03:09:04,600
Speaker 1: a run stuffer who you hope can offer a little

3771
03:09:04,600 --> 03:09:07,480
Speaker 1: bit more than that. He wouldn't have been exciting for

3772
03:09:07,560 --> 03:09:11,600
Speaker 1: me though at eighty two though, no Neile Okay, already

3773
03:09:11,640 --> 03:09:14,560
Speaker 1: get excited. Boy nose tackles. But Von Hamilton one of

3774
03:09:14,600 --> 03:09:17,760
Speaker 1: the most improved players this year. He was a priority

3775
03:09:17,840 --> 03:09:20,920
Speaker 1: free agent for scouts over the summer, but he turned

3776
03:09:20,920 --> 03:09:23,400
Speaker 1: it on as a senior kind of really things clicked

3777
03:09:23,440 --> 03:09:27,560
Speaker 1: for him. You saw him dominate Guy. It's different centers

3778
03:09:27,560 --> 03:09:30,280
Speaker 1: start the league throughout the big ten, and he did

3779
03:09:30,320 --> 03:09:32,800
Speaker 1: a nice job and turn himself into a third round pick.

3780
03:09:32,959 --> 03:09:35,800
Speaker 1: So the Von Hamilton going in front of guys like luck,

3781
03:09:35,800 --> 03:09:41,080
Speaker 1: he foted to Jordan Elliott Neville Gallimore. So a nice

3782
03:09:41,200 --> 03:09:44,360
Speaker 1: job by him to put himself in this position. Zach

3783
03:09:44,440 --> 03:09:47,720
Speaker 1: Bonn still on the board. That's act. Before we got

3784
03:09:47,800 --> 03:09:49,960
Speaker 1: derailed with the quarterback talk, I was actually I mean,

3785
03:09:50,200 --> 03:09:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm the guy that loves to say good luck finding

3786
03:09:53,840 --> 03:09:56,400
Speaker 1: pass rush help outside the top fifty like it just

3787
03:09:56,840 --> 03:09:59,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't have a great track record. But I'm sitting here,

3788
03:10:00,080 --> 03:10:03,200
Speaker 1: eighty two are close to eighty two getting there, and

3789
03:10:03,840 --> 03:10:07,879
Speaker 1: I feel very encouraged about what you might be able

3790
03:10:07,920 --> 03:10:10,040
Speaker 1: to get to help your pass rush. Oh yeah, I

3791
03:10:10,120 --> 03:10:13,039
Speaker 1: mean Bond. But I would also throw in Terrell Lewis

3792
03:10:13,160 --> 03:10:16,879
Speaker 1: and Curtis Weaver. I think that there's I think there's

3793
03:10:16,879 --> 03:10:18,440
Speaker 1: a few guys maybe they could do it. Here's the

3794
03:10:18,480 --> 03:10:22,360
Speaker 1: Saints pick, the New Orleans Saints with the seventy fourth

3795
03:10:22,400 --> 03:10:25,720
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft. The New Orleans

3796
03:10:25,760 --> 03:10:31,280
Speaker 1: Saints like Zach Bond, but what is this? Sean Payton

3797
03:10:31,360 --> 03:10:33,240
Speaker 1: and Mickey Loomis, what are you guys doing? It's a

3798
03:10:33,440 --> 03:10:36,400
Speaker 1: terrible pick. The Saints did this last year with Eric McCoy.

3799
03:10:36,560 --> 03:10:39,279
Speaker 1: They did this last year with the Chauncey Gardner Johnson.

3800
03:10:39,680 --> 03:10:43,280
Speaker 1: The Saints really do a nice job with you know,

3801
03:10:43,360 --> 03:10:45,240
Speaker 1: they don't have a ton of draft picks, but when

3802
03:10:45,280 --> 03:10:48,040
Speaker 1: they see a player fall, they just seem to go

3803
03:10:48,120 --> 03:10:49,800
Speaker 1: get him or be in a position to get him.

3804
03:10:49,840 --> 03:10:52,879
Speaker 1: So this is a player that if we saw him

3805
03:10:52,959 --> 03:10:55,400
Speaker 1: go in the first round at number twenty four, I

3806
03:10:55,440 --> 03:10:57,960
Speaker 1: don't think any of us would have batten nigh. Yeah,

3807
03:10:58,160 --> 03:11:00,400
Speaker 1: And I think it's something that the cow Boys are

3808
03:11:00,480 --> 03:11:04,480
Speaker 1: really famous for doing with guys like Ceedee Lamb. So

3809
03:11:04,560 --> 03:11:06,080
Speaker 1: let the guy fall to you and go ahead and

3810
03:11:06,120 --> 03:11:09,240
Speaker 1: take the good players. So we're gonna lose Zach Bond

3811
03:11:09,480 --> 03:11:13,360
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to reshuffle here, and yeah, that's

3812
03:11:13,400 --> 03:11:16,880
Speaker 1: messed up. And Kyle, I pretty much blame you. Thanks. Uh.

3813
03:11:17,040 --> 03:11:18,720
Speaker 1: You seem to be like the guy who was pulling

3814
03:11:18,760 --> 03:11:20,760
Speaker 1: for it the whole time I was pulling for I

3815
03:11:20,840 --> 03:11:22,879
Speaker 1: just didn't expect him to go all the way down. Well,

3816
03:11:23,000 --> 03:11:25,600
Speaker 1: Dave and Brian were fighting seventy five, you were texting

3817
03:11:25,680 --> 03:11:28,600
Speaker 1: people to take Zach Bonn, and that messed up. I

3818
03:11:28,760 --> 03:11:31,560
Speaker 1: was hitting up my sources in the New Orleans Saints

3819
03:11:31,640 --> 03:11:33,680
Speaker 1: to get it done. I know you were. Dave's got

3820
03:11:33,720 --> 03:11:36,040
Speaker 1: sources too. He probably gave you people to talk to

3821
03:11:36,200 --> 03:11:38,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and I've got sources in the Saints. Well,

3822
03:11:38,879 --> 03:11:42,080
Speaker 1: I really like Zach Bond. I think, um, what's your

3823
03:11:42,160 --> 03:11:45,720
Speaker 1: play here now? What? Like? What is what's there for you? Now? Burgess,

3824
03:11:46,480 --> 03:11:48,959
Speaker 1: Terrell Burgess is there for you? A Keem Davis Gaither,

3825
03:11:49,480 --> 03:11:53,760
Speaker 1: Curtis Weaver, Terrell Lewis, Cushion, Barry Jordan Elli picks ahead

3826
03:11:53,760 --> 03:11:57,640
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys the Raiders. They pick at eighty and

3827
03:11:57,760 --> 03:12:00,840
Speaker 1: eighty one. Tarrell Burgess seems like I'm like Mayok type

3828
03:12:00,879 --> 03:12:08,680
Speaker 1: of player. Hey, Dane, Hey, this is what we need

3829
03:12:08,720 --> 03:12:11,360
Speaker 1: to do. You need to look at realistic possibilities here.

3830
03:12:11,640 --> 03:12:15,000
Speaker 1: And I think those are two landmines sitting Grudon as

3831
03:12:15,040 --> 03:12:17,440
Speaker 1: we speak. Do it? Tell him you heard some really

3832
03:12:17,480 --> 03:12:21,960
Speaker 1: bad stuff? Actually do this? Yeah, called Grudon up. I

3833
03:12:22,040 --> 03:12:24,400
Speaker 1: bet Dane could too. He might have to back channel it.

3834
03:12:24,440 --> 03:12:26,160
Speaker 1: I bet Dane could find his way to Grudon if

3835
03:12:26,200 --> 03:12:31,080
Speaker 1: he needed to. Maybe not him, but maybe a general manager. Okay, yeah, exactly,

3836
03:12:32,000 --> 03:12:34,160
Speaker 1: you know. Okay, Well, a position we haven't talked about.

3837
03:12:34,200 --> 03:12:36,760
Speaker 1: What about one of these tight ends. What about when

3838
03:12:36,800 --> 03:12:41,800
Speaker 1: he's tight? We know they like the UCLA kid. Yeah,

3839
03:12:41,840 --> 03:12:44,800
Speaker 1: and I know Dane really liked Troutman from Dayton was

3840
03:12:44,840 --> 03:12:47,720
Speaker 1: a guy and je Harrison Bryant has Harrison Bryan is

3841
03:12:47,720 --> 03:12:51,680
Speaker 1: a guy. Yeah under Bryan as well from Washington. A

3842
03:12:51,680 --> 03:12:54,640
Speaker 1: little bit of a different mindset with him though than

3843
03:12:54,720 --> 03:12:58,360
Speaker 1: maybe Blake Jarwin and Blake Bell. Well they can't well

3844
03:12:58,440 --> 03:13:01,240
Speaker 1: Blake Bell can block, but Darwin can't box, Drolin can't.

3845
03:13:01,280 --> 03:13:03,920
Speaker 1: So they'd be fine right along the same lines. Yeah,

3846
03:13:04,040 --> 03:13:06,760
Speaker 1: they can teach each other. It'd be great. Detroit Lions

3847
03:13:06,760 --> 03:13:09,000
Speaker 1: are on the clock at seventy five. Go ahead, Brian,

3848
03:13:09,360 --> 03:13:11,720
Speaker 1: Now I was just looking. Is there anything, is any

3849
03:13:11,800 --> 03:13:17,840
Speaker 1: reason why traded the seventy fifth pick the Detroit Lions.

3850
03:13:18,840 --> 03:13:21,720
Speaker 1: With the seventy fifth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft,

3851
03:13:22,400 --> 03:13:28,640
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions select Jonah Jackson guard Ohio State. Dane

3852
03:13:28,680 --> 03:13:33,640
Speaker 1: Bruler scouting report Jonah Jackson another phone booth blocker, a

3853
03:13:33,720 --> 03:13:35,280
Speaker 1: guy that's not going to give you a ton of

3854
03:13:35,480 --> 03:13:40,400
Speaker 1: range athletic ability, but if you get in his square,

3855
03:13:40,800 --> 03:13:42,840
Speaker 1: he is going to get his hands on you and

3856
03:13:43,000 --> 03:13:46,800
Speaker 1: dominate you. He was a big part of stabilizing that

3857
03:13:46,879 --> 03:13:49,240
Speaker 1: Ohio State offensive line this year. He was a grad

3858
03:13:49,320 --> 03:13:52,680
Speaker 1: transfer coming in from Rutgers and one left guard spot

3859
03:13:52,840 --> 03:13:55,840
Speaker 1: and was a big reason why JK. Dobbins and Justin

3860
03:13:55,959 --> 03:14:00,160
Speaker 1: Fields had so much success. So seeing him go US

3861
03:14:00,200 --> 03:14:02,360
Speaker 1: early here in the third round not not that big

3862
03:14:02,360 --> 03:14:05,480
Speaker 1: of a surprise. And now we have the Tampa Bay

3863
03:14:05,480 --> 03:14:07,920
Speaker 1: Buccaneers on the clock. Their pick is in. We'll get

3864
03:14:08,000 --> 03:14:10,480
Speaker 1: that pick and we'll continue to work our way towards

3865
03:14:10,640 --> 03:14:13,040
Speaker 1: number eighty two for the Dallas Cowboys. You're listening to

3866
03:14:13,120 --> 03:14:15,600
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft on one oh five three

3867
03:14:15,640 --> 03:14:20,880
Speaker 1: the fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com. All right, here

3868
03:14:20,920 --> 03:14:24,320
Speaker 1: we are on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and we've still

3869
03:14:24,400 --> 03:14:26,200
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a ways to go, but

3870
03:14:26,280 --> 03:14:28,520
Speaker 1: we're starting to get into that range of starting to

3871
03:14:29,000 --> 03:14:31,680
Speaker 1: fill out exactly what that board is going to look

3872
03:14:31,760 --> 03:14:36,200
Speaker 1: like when it comes to the Cowboys picking at eighty two.

3873
03:14:36,640 --> 03:14:40,240
Speaker 1: CD lamb Treyvon Diggs both already selections for the Dallas

3874
03:14:40,320 --> 03:14:43,879
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Brian. I know there's a lot of defensive

3875
03:14:43,920 --> 03:14:46,320
Speaker 1: players on the board here still, but we were just

3876
03:14:46,400 --> 03:14:48,959
Speaker 1: talking about some of the tight ends. Is there any

3877
03:14:49,080 --> 03:14:51,440
Speaker 1: chance you go offense and I'm not just talking about

3878
03:14:51,480 --> 03:14:54,640
Speaker 1: skill positions, but even interior offensive line here with maybe

3879
03:14:54,800 --> 03:14:57,320
Speaker 1: a cushion Berry on the board. Yeah, you know, Jeff

3880
03:14:57,360 --> 03:14:59,360
Speaker 1: and I've always in our show, it always has these

3881
03:14:59,400 --> 03:15:02,000
Speaker 1: discussions about cushion Berry Hennessy. I mean, I've got him

3882
03:15:02,000 --> 03:15:04,400
Speaker 1: in the same round, so I mean, but I have Hennessy.

3883
03:15:04,480 --> 03:15:07,280
Speaker 1: Their tags are touching just above him here. The Buccaneers

3884
03:15:07,320 --> 03:15:08,840
Speaker 1: are about to make their pick. Let me just get

3885
03:15:08,879 --> 03:15:11,440
Speaker 1: it for you here. But yeah, to finish up, I

3886
03:15:11,840 --> 03:15:14,320
Speaker 1: just think the athletic billy of Hennessy at Temples a

3887
03:15:14,360 --> 03:15:17,360
Speaker 1: little bit better than Kushion Berry, powerful guy Cushion Berry

3888
03:15:17,360 --> 03:15:19,680
Speaker 1: at LSU. But I just feel like they're gonna give

3889
03:15:19,760 --> 03:15:23,200
Speaker 1: their guy an opportunity. They drafted, you know, it's a

3890
03:15:24,040 --> 03:15:28,880
Speaker 1: Shawn Vaughan, the running back from Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt. Yes, because

3891
03:15:28,920 --> 03:15:32,680
Speaker 1: Sean Vaughan, running back Vanderbilt, just got selected by the

3892
03:15:33,160 --> 03:15:36,520
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Dane. That's an intriguing pick from

3893
03:15:36,600 --> 03:15:39,640
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen in my mind, But twenty nineteen it was

3894
03:15:39,800 --> 03:15:43,400
Speaker 1: not a great year for him overall and all of Vanderbilt.

3895
03:15:43,640 --> 03:15:48,280
Speaker 1: There Kalija Lipscomb, the receiver, Jared Pinkney, the tight end.

3896
03:15:48,360 --> 03:15:51,200
Speaker 1: None of those guys really stood out. But Vaughan had

3897
03:15:51,200 --> 03:15:53,440
Speaker 1: a lot of fans coming into the year, and just

3898
03:15:54,040 --> 03:15:57,359
Speaker 1: a lot of them still stayed on that Vaughan vandwagon.

3899
03:15:57,400 --> 03:16:00,400
Speaker 1: Apparently the Bucks liked them. Surprise, he went here at

3900
03:16:00,440 --> 03:16:02,760
Speaker 1: seventy six over some of these other running backs. But

3901
03:16:03,160 --> 03:16:06,120
Speaker 1: he's a good player. He can run inside, run outside,

3902
03:16:06,200 --> 03:16:09,680
Speaker 1: He's got some production in the passing game. There's a

3903
03:16:09,760 --> 03:16:11,480
Speaker 1: lot to like about him, even though he didn't have

3904
03:16:11,560 --> 03:16:13,879
Speaker 1: the greatest year. Well, Dany, let me ask you this though, Moss.

3905
03:16:14,200 --> 03:16:15,480
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, he was a guy that a

3906
03:16:15,520 --> 03:16:18,520
Speaker 1: lot of people had. The Utah Kid had hints. Yeah,

3907
03:16:18,760 --> 03:16:21,640
Speaker 1: So the medicals what's killing him right now? I probably

3908
03:16:21,800 --> 03:16:24,040
Speaker 1: because he's banged up with the knee. I mean he

3909
03:16:24,160 --> 03:16:27,520
Speaker 1: was getting shots into his shoulder down the stretch. Okay,

3910
03:16:28,000 --> 03:16:30,120
Speaker 1: I think. I mean he's a better running back, we

3911
03:16:30,160 --> 03:16:33,160
Speaker 1: can agree there. But the medicals I think are probably

3912
03:16:33,200 --> 03:16:35,680
Speaker 1: the problem with him. Well, now running back seems to

3913
03:16:35,720 --> 03:16:38,560
Speaker 1: get a little bit thinner. I mean, Zach Boss, you know, Benjamin,

3914
03:16:38,640 --> 03:16:41,520
Speaker 1: These aren't necessarily guys that the Cowboys would be interested in.

3915
03:16:41,720 --> 03:16:44,200
Speaker 1: But if you're looking for teams to maybe take some

3916
03:16:44,280 --> 03:16:46,360
Speaker 1: of those guys ahead of you to to maybe sure

3917
03:16:46,520 --> 03:16:49,560
Speaker 1: up your defensive talent that's on the board that's starting

3918
03:16:49,600 --> 03:16:54,360
Speaker 1: to get a little bit thinner than we originally saw. Yeah,

3919
03:16:54,560 --> 03:16:57,680
Speaker 1: surprised by von this high though, guys, Yeah, I am too,

3920
03:16:57,840 --> 03:17:01,360
Speaker 1: especially because again I didn't have the on Moss and

3921
03:17:01,520 --> 03:17:03,840
Speaker 1: being with the you know, the shots and stuff like that.

3922
03:17:04,000 --> 03:17:05,720
Speaker 1: So he's going to be a guy that you know

3923
03:17:05,800 --> 03:17:07,560
Speaker 1: you have in the third round there and then he

3924
03:17:07,840 --> 03:17:10,000
Speaker 1: didn't get taken and you're like, okay, what happened? And

3925
03:17:10,120 --> 03:17:12,800
Speaker 1: you ask people around and it's what is exactly what

3926
03:17:12,959 --> 03:17:15,080
Speaker 1: Dank just told you. Yeah? Those just eat you up,

3927
03:17:15,120 --> 03:17:18,080
Speaker 1: don't they? Brian? Oh heck yeah they do. Absolutely they do.

3928
03:17:18,240 --> 03:17:21,400
Speaker 1: Can't wait till about tomorrow at about one thirty when

3929
03:17:21,600 --> 03:17:24,680
Speaker 1: you've just got a blinking red guy who's been there

3930
03:17:24,800 --> 03:17:27,360
Speaker 1: for for a round and a half. We've done this

3931
03:17:27,480 --> 03:17:30,840
Speaker 1: draft together now a long time and it happens every year. Yeah,

3932
03:17:30,879 --> 03:17:32,960
Speaker 1: we're wondering why, Okay, what's wrong? It's always got a

3933
03:17:33,000 --> 03:17:36,160
Speaker 1: heart condition. But you know what, you're like, I love you.

3934
03:17:36,400 --> 03:17:38,400
Speaker 1: You're still so invested in it that you take it

3935
03:17:38,520 --> 03:17:40,720
Speaker 1: that personally, and that's what makes you the goat I

3936
03:17:41,600 --> 03:17:44,160
Speaker 1: think this is a good conversation to have because with

3937
03:17:44,440 --> 03:17:48,040
Speaker 1: pro days and with some of those medical rechecks being rescheduled, Yeah,

3938
03:17:48,280 --> 03:17:50,440
Speaker 1: we might not know about it. As media members, we

3939
03:17:50,520 --> 03:17:54,680
Speaker 1: don't have that inside that normally scouting departments would maybe

3940
03:17:54,879 --> 03:17:57,400
Speaker 1: allow us to see. Maybe even the scouting departments don't know,

3941
03:17:57,560 --> 03:18:00,680
Speaker 1: is what. That's a great point, Kyle, because they didn't

3942
03:18:00,720 --> 03:18:03,480
Speaker 1: have in the first weekend of April. They didn't have

3943
03:18:03,920 --> 03:18:06,400
Speaker 1: those medical rechecks, and a lot of those guys that

3944
03:18:06,720 --> 03:18:09,480
Speaker 1: had problems at the combine never got looked at again.

3945
03:18:09,640 --> 03:18:12,480
Speaker 1: And so you know, those those trainers and doctors did

3946
03:18:12,480 --> 03:18:15,680
Speaker 1: a good job, but probably you know, exchanging information what

3947
03:18:15,800 --> 03:18:17,760
Speaker 1: they had on these guys. But unless you went to

3948
03:18:17,840 --> 03:18:20,600
Speaker 1: the combine, you know, they don't they'll probably have all

3949
03:18:20,640 --> 03:18:23,720
Speaker 1: that all that to work up on you. Twenty twenty

3950
03:18:23,920 --> 03:18:27,560
Speaker 1: NFL Draft continued on one o five three The Fan

3951
03:18:27,879 --> 03:18:33,080
Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. All Right, welcome back, Jeff Kavanaugh,

3952
03:18:33,160 --> 03:18:37,080
Speaker 1: Brian brought us, Dane Brugler, Kyle Yeoman's and Dave Hellman

3953
03:18:37,200 --> 03:18:39,040
Speaker 1: here with you. One oh five three The Fan and

3954
03:18:39,360 --> 03:18:43,040
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The Denver Broncos are on the clock,

3955
03:18:43,120 --> 03:18:46,200
Speaker 1: and the pick is in we'll get the Bronchos pick

3956
03:18:46,400 --> 03:18:50,240
Speaker 1: shortly at seventy seven. The Cowboys pick at eighty two,

3957
03:18:50,840 --> 03:18:53,600
Speaker 1: and we are keeping a sharp eye on a small

3958
03:18:53,760 --> 03:18:57,680
Speaker 1: handful of names to see if certain guys can get

3959
03:18:57,760 --> 03:19:00,560
Speaker 1: down there for the Dallas Cowboys and if they'll take

3960
03:19:00,640 --> 03:19:02,680
Speaker 1: the guys that we keep talking about. But I keep

3961
03:19:02,720 --> 03:19:05,560
Speaker 1: going back to Dane's mock draft. This morning, I took

3962
03:19:05,600 --> 03:19:07,920
Speaker 1: the lazy route of just running one of the simulators

3963
03:19:08,040 --> 03:19:10,760
Speaker 1: and then making a pick, and both came up with

3964
03:19:10,840 --> 03:19:13,000
Speaker 1: the same names. He just worked a lot harder for it,

3965
03:19:13,120 --> 03:19:16,280
Speaker 1: and you could read his work. Terrell Burgess is the

3966
03:19:16,360 --> 03:19:18,560
Speaker 1: name that I'm keeping an eye on the Utah Safety.

3967
03:19:18,959 --> 03:19:20,520
Speaker 1: I think that would be a great fit for what

3968
03:19:20,640 --> 03:19:23,760
Speaker 1: the Cowboys need and for picking a guy that's somewhere

3969
03:19:23,840 --> 03:19:26,440
Speaker 1: up there towards the top of your board. Terrell Burgess

3970
03:19:26,520 --> 03:19:29,039
Speaker 1: is the name I'm keeping an eye on, but he's

3971
03:19:29,040 --> 03:19:31,400
Speaker 1: not the only one. There's a handful of other names

3972
03:19:32,240 --> 03:19:34,800
Speaker 1: to be looking for at positions that could really help

3973
03:19:34,879 --> 03:19:36,879
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. And do we need to start thinking about

3974
03:19:36,920 --> 03:19:39,600
Speaker 1: would they take a center we had we heard the

3975
03:19:39,680 --> 03:19:42,600
Speaker 1: name Ruiz, I haven't really heard the name Cushionberry with

3976
03:19:42,760 --> 03:19:45,560
Speaker 1: them I mean, I've got him graded here. But I've

3977
03:19:45,680 --> 03:19:49,200
Speaker 1: heard rumor of Hennessey. I have heard that that's a

3978
03:19:49,240 --> 03:19:52,520
Speaker 1: guy that they like. I don't know how him. Yeah,

3979
03:19:52,560 --> 03:19:55,440
Speaker 1: I've never had Kyle. You're talking about drinking right that too,

3980
03:19:55,640 --> 03:20:00,800
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about you know, I that would Miller light.

3981
03:20:00,840 --> 03:20:02,880
Speaker 1: Of course. I wonder if they would go center or

3982
03:20:02,920 --> 03:20:05,760
Speaker 1: they do the tighten because we've heard a lot about Assisi,

3983
03:20:05,920 --> 03:20:09,520
Speaker 1: Devin ASIASI from But but there's people also that will

3984
03:20:09,560 --> 03:20:12,400
Speaker 1: tell you that there's Dane. Correct me if you've heard

3985
03:20:12,480 --> 03:20:16,320
Speaker 1: this too, that like the football. There's some football character

3986
03:20:16,440 --> 03:20:20,879
Speaker 1: issues with this guy. Have you heard anything? Yeah? Does

3987
03:20:20,920 --> 03:20:24,080
Speaker 1: he really love football? Kind of a thing? Right Well,

3988
03:20:24,200 --> 03:20:26,520
Speaker 1: he went to Michigan and then had transfer back. He

3989
03:20:26,640 --> 03:20:30,040
Speaker 1: suspended a few games early on for UCLA. So there

3990
03:20:30,120 --> 03:20:32,680
Speaker 1: are a few questions there, no doubt in terms of

3991
03:20:33,320 --> 03:20:37,200
Speaker 1: uh putting in the work, maximizing his ability. Um, you know,

3992
03:20:37,320 --> 03:20:40,480
Speaker 1: not the most physically impressive guy, both you know, body

3993
03:20:40,560 --> 03:20:43,680
Speaker 1: wise and UH testing wise. You feel like he has

3994
03:20:43,800 --> 03:20:47,160
Speaker 1: the skills to be a solid player. He might not

3995
03:20:47,240 --> 03:20:49,279
Speaker 1: be a great route runner, might not be a great blocker,

3996
03:20:49,640 --> 03:20:53,360
Speaker 1: but he's good in both are Let's go the Commissioners draft,

3997
03:20:54,080 --> 03:21:00,720
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos select Michael O. J. Moodia, defensive back Iowa.

3998
03:21:01,040 --> 03:21:03,280
Speaker 1: Oh that's actually a guy that I kind of liked

3999
03:21:03,360 --> 03:21:05,480
Speaker 1: out of Iowa. He's one of those guys that I think,

4000
03:21:05,879 --> 03:21:08,600
Speaker 1: even as just a you know, six one two hundred

4001
03:21:08,640 --> 03:21:11,080
Speaker 1: pound and look at the athleticism, I kind of viewed

4002
03:21:11,160 --> 03:21:13,920
Speaker 1: him as a little bit more of a developmental guy.

4003
03:21:14,080 --> 03:21:16,080
Speaker 1: But here we are, I guess in the seventies, and

4004
03:21:16,160 --> 03:21:18,240
Speaker 1: that might make a little bit of sense. Did you

4005
03:21:18,280 --> 03:21:19,960
Speaker 1: see him better than that day? And I saw a

4006
03:21:20,000 --> 03:21:22,560
Speaker 1: guy that I really liked the traits. I don't know

4007
03:21:22,680 --> 03:21:24,760
Speaker 1: that the player as somebody i'd want to throw onto

4008
03:21:24,840 --> 03:21:27,240
Speaker 1: my NFL field at the moment. It's a good way

4009
03:21:27,240 --> 03:21:29,119
Speaker 1: to sum him up, was Yeah, he's six one, two

4010
03:21:29,200 --> 03:21:31,280
Speaker 1: hundred pounds and when he ran the four four five

4011
03:21:31,360 --> 03:21:33,320
Speaker 1: at the combine, I think he kind of knew, Okay,

4012
03:21:33,879 --> 03:21:35,720
Speaker 1: he's going to go somewhere high. I gave him a

4013
03:21:35,720 --> 03:21:39,280
Speaker 1: fourth round grade because I tape was probably fifth round,

4014
03:21:39,320 --> 03:21:41,480
Speaker 1: and then after his testing. Okay, i'm u put him

4015
03:21:41,480 --> 03:21:44,200
Speaker 1: in the fourth because of the traits. But yeah, this

4016
03:21:44,280 --> 03:21:46,520
Speaker 1: is a guy who gets out leveraged a little too easily.

4017
03:21:47,560 --> 03:21:50,840
Speaker 1: You know you like the physicality, but when he got beat,

4018
03:21:51,120 --> 03:21:53,440
Speaker 1: he struggled to recover. He just doesn't have that twitch

4019
03:21:53,520 --> 03:21:56,560
Speaker 1: to him. But he's smart, he's physical. You like the length,

4020
03:21:56,760 --> 03:21:59,680
Speaker 1: So understand why the Broncos will go this direction at

4021
03:21:59,680 --> 03:22:03,360
Speaker 1: this point. And that'll take us to the Atlanta Falcons

4022
03:22:03,440 --> 03:22:06,320
Speaker 1: at number seventy eight. As we're getting closer and closer

4023
03:22:06,440 --> 03:22:10,800
Speaker 1: to number eighty two for the Dallas Cowboys, the Atlanta Falcons,

4024
03:22:11,200 --> 03:22:13,320
Speaker 1: let me see if I can get their draft so

4025
03:22:13,520 --> 03:22:15,840
Speaker 1: far pulled up here, which is going to take me

4026
03:22:15,920 --> 03:22:18,800
Speaker 1: a second. Well, while you do that, I don't want

4027
03:22:18,920 --> 03:22:22,560
Speaker 1: Kyle to be the only bummer here, So all right,

4028
03:22:23,120 --> 03:22:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I just want to take you through my

4029
03:22:25,440 --> 03:22:29,000
Speaker 1: thought process because I liked to Rrel Burgess too. I

4030
03:22:29,120 --> 03:22:32,160
Speaker 1: think I in my final mock for Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

4031
03:22:32,240 --> 03:22:33,880
Speaker 1: I think he was my pick at eighty two, so

4032
03:22:33,959 --> 03:22:37,520
Speaker 1: I'd be thrilled with it. But one, can you trust

4033
03:22:37,600 --> 03:22:41,240
Speaker 1: him to survive these next few picks? And two I

4034
03:22:41,440 --> 03:22:43,840
Speaker 1: just can't help but look at this list of available

4035
03:22:43,879 --> 03:22:47,800
Speaker 1: defensive linemen, and we know they went best player available

4036
03:22:47,879 --> 03:22:52,200
Speaker 1: last night, but we also know they don't really value

4037
03:22:52,200 --> 03:22:54,200
Speaker 1: safety that much. That's never been a thing that they do,

4038
03:22:54,480 --> 03:22:57,400
Speaker 1: and for all I know, they might just be sitting

4039
03:22:57,440 --> 03:22:59,800
Speaker 1: in there like, well, yeah, we have Haha and Woods

4040
03:23:00,000 --> 03:23:02,560
Speaker 1: and we can just sign guys next year. This is fine.

4041
03:23:03,080 --> 03:23:06,600
Speaker 1: And I look at I look at Neville Gallimore and

4042
03:23:06,680 --> 03:23:10,640
Speaker 1: Jordan Elliott sitting there. I look at Terrell Lewis sitting there,

4043
03:23:10,720 --> 03:23:14,000
Speaker 1: which is Curtis Weaver. I mean, I'm gonna throw in

4044
03:23:14,120 --> 03:23:18,280
Speaker 1: Zuniga as well, and that is a healthy list of

4045
03:23:18,480 --> 03:23:22,760
Speaker 1: names that are probably more talented than I expected to

4046
03:23:22,920 --> 03:23:25,800
Speaker 1: be here at eighty two. And so that's just where

4047
03:23:25,879 --> 03:23:29,640
Speaker 1: my radar is right now. But James lyn yeah, I'd

4048
03:23:29,680 --> 03:23:31,680
Speaker 1: throw him in there too. Well. I know people are

4049
03:23:31,720 --> 03:23:34,119
Speaker 1: talking about him playing more of as a three technique.

4050
03:23:34,160 --> 03:23:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't know where to play it. Here's a commissioner

4051
03:23:35,879 --> 03:23:40,080
Speaker 1: at the podium now or his beyond, to take care

4052
03:23:40,080 --> 03:23:45,760
Speaker 1: of our most vulnerable. You have our full support, and

4053
03:23:45,920 --> 03:23:48,680
Speaker 1: that with the seventy eighth pick in the twenty twenty

4054
03:23:49,360 --> 03:23:55,160
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons select Matt Hennessey Center Temple.

4055
03:23:55,640 --> 03:23:57,480
Speaker 1: There you go, now, Brian, I know you are a

4056
03:23:57,600 --> 03:23:59,600
Speaker 1: big fan of Hennessy. I believe he was your top

4057
03:23:59,680 --> 03:24:01,200
Speaker 1: center on the board. So you want to hit us

4058
03:24:01,200 --> 03:24:03,320
Speaker 1: with the Matt Hennessey scouting report that he center for

4059
03:24:03,400 --> 03:24:05,520
Speaker 1: the Falcon. I will do my very best here with

4060
03:24:05,680 --> 03:24:08,200
Speaker 1: Matt Hennessey here if I can get to it. Uh

4061
03:24:08,360 --> 03:24:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm technologically struggling at times. Uh yeah, this

4062
03:24:11,800 --> 03:24:15,000
Speaker 1: with Hennessy. He's an undersized guy, but he's got really

4063
03:24:15,040 --> 03:24:17,960
Speaker 1: good movement. He's not the strongest guy, you know, but

4064
03:24:18,080 --> 03:24:21,119
Speaker 1: he plays with really good foot quickness and positioning. He's

4065
03:24:21,200 --> 03:24:23,280
Speaker 1: kind of a getting away blocker, but he'll use his

4066
03:24:23,400 --> 03:24:25,879
Speaker 1: feet to stay in position with his man. His contact

4067
03:24:25,959 --> 03:24:28,360
Speaker 1: balance I thought was good. He's not going to drive

4068
03:24:28,400 --> 03:24:30,080
Speaker 1: anybody off the ball. If you look at what the

4069
03:24:30,160 --> 03:24:33,480
Speaker 1: Falcons do scheme wise, that outside zone stuff like that.

4070
03:24:33,680 --> 03:24:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's going to be very very capable

4071
03:24:36,200 --> 03:24:38,880
Speaker 1: for doing this. He'll slide across, he'll pick up rushers.

4072
03:24:39,360 --> 03:24:41,920
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I don't know if he'll function really

4073
03:24:41,959 --> 03:24:44,840
Speaker 1: well with a heavy man on his nose. But the scoop,

4074
03:24:45,000 --> 03:24:48,240
Speaker 1: the reach, all those stuff, anything you have to do athletically,

4075
03:24:48,800 --> 03:24:51,880
Speaker 1: he can. He can handle that stuff. Well. He's another

4076
03:24:51,959 --> 03:24:55,240
Speaker 1: guy also that shined on film against lesser competition. He's

4077
03:24:55,280 --> 03:24:57,080
Speaker 1: got a brother that that played for Duke for a

4078
03:24:57,160 --> 03:24:59,800
Speaker 1: little bit, and he's got that family pedigree, but I

4079
03:25:00,200 --> 03:25:01,600
Speaker 1: I liked him a lot up at the top. I

4080
03:25:01,640 --> 03:25:03,600
Speaker 1: wrote an article a couple of weeks ago when Travis

4081
03:25:03,640 --> 03:25:06,880
Speaker 1: Frederick retired saying, here's five guys in the draft that

4082
03:25:06,920 --> 03:25:09,160
Speaker 1: could replace Travis Frederick, and I had him as one

4083
03:25:09,200 --> 03:25:11,360
Speaker 1: of the top guys out of those five that could

4084
03:25:11,360 --> 03:25:13,760
Speaker 1: potentially come in and do the job. So the fact

4085
03:25:13,800 --> 03:25:15,560
Speaker 1: that he's off the board here makes me kind of

4086
03:25:16,320 --> 03:25:19,400
Speaker 1: a little sad because maybe at least that option wasn't

4087
03:25:19,440 --> 03:25:21,120
Speaker 1: there at eighty two. Not that I would have really

4088
03:25:21,200 --> 03:25:23,840
Speaker 1: wanted him to go with an interior offensive lineman at

4089
03:25:23,879 --> 03:25:25,560
Speaker 1: eighty two, but at least he would have been on

4090
03:25:25,600 --> 03:25:28,080
Speaker 1: the board when that pick came around. So we're on

4091
03:25:28,160 --> 03:25:31,280
Speaker 1: the Jets at seventy nine so far in this draft,

4092
03:25:31,320 --> 03:25:34,240
Speaker 1: and their pick is in. We're just waiting for the commissioner.

4093
03:25:34,360 --> 03:25:36,240
Speaker 1: But so far in the draft, the Jets have gone

4094
03:25:36,320 --> 03:25:41,400
Speaker 1: McKay Beckton Louisville offensive tackle, Denzel Mims, bay lloroid receiver

4095
03:25:41,520 --> 03:25:44,120
Speaker 1: in the second, and Ashton Davis, the safety out of

4096
03:25:44,200 --> 03:25:47,440
Speaker 1: Cow in the third. This is their second third round pick,

4097
03:25:47,560 --> 03:25:50,600
Speaker 1: and they have a third third round pick later in

4098
03:25:50,680 --> 03:25:55,800
Speaker 1: the round. Needs for the Jets. They haven't taken a

4099
03:25:55,879 --> 03:25:59,920
Speaker 1: cornerback yet, they haven't taken a linebacker yet, they haven't

4100
03:26:00,080 --> 03:26:04,360
Speaker 1: taking an offensive wineman Yette. They have addressed the wide receiver,

4101
03:26:04,600 --> 03:26:07,400
Speaker 1: maybe a running back. They could go all over the

4102
03:26:07,480 --> 03:26:09,800
Speaker 1: place with the New York Jets. Here at pick number

4103
03:26:09,840 --> 03:26:13,000
Speaker 1: seventy nine, Dane, have you reset your big board recently

4104
03:26:13,160 --> 03:26:15,400
Speaker 1: or your your top one hundred players? Who are the

4105
03:26:15,480 --> 03:26:18,240
Speaker 1: top guys? Yeah, let's see. You have guy Lloyd Cushionberry

4106
03:26:18,280 --> 03:26:21,240
Speaker 1: I think is the top guy. Yep, he's the top available.

4107
03:26:21,400 --> 03:26:24,800
Speaker 1: Trell Lewis is next. Although Lewis it's all medical with him,

4108
03:26:25,240 --> 03:26:27,400
Speaker 1: some teams just removing them from the board because of

4109
03:26:27,440 --> 03:26:30,960
Speaker 1: his knee. That could be something that uh, you know,

4110
03:26:31,360 --> 03:26:34,040
Speaker 1: he could fall into Day three. That's very possible. Could

4111
03:26:34,120 --> 03:26:38,240
Speaker 1: be this year's Josh Sweat that type of player. So

4112
03:26:38,400 --> 03:26:41,560
Speaker 1: a Keem Davis Davis Gaither linebacker at of app State

4113
03:26:41,640 --> 03:26:44,400
Speaker 1: would be next. Then Adam Troutman the tight end out

4114
03:26:44,440 --> 03:26:48,360
Speaker 1: of Dayton, Curtis Weaver pass rusher at a Boise State,

4115
03:26:48,520 --> 03:26:51,600
Speaker 1: and then George Elliott defensive tackle out of Missouri. So

4116
03:26:52,120 --> 03:26:56,080
Speaker 1: still some big name players with talent that are available

4117
03:26:56,160 --> 03:27:00,640
Speaker 1: as we get within four picks of Dallas and some

4118
03:27:00,760 --> 03:27:04,440
Speaker 1: of those names. Yeah, it sounds like either they would

4119
03:27:04,480 --> 03:27:07,080
Speaker 1: be or we just hope they would be interested in.

4120
03:27:07,200 --> 03:27:08,560
Speaker 1: As you go through a few of those names, it

4121
03:27:08,640 --> 03:27:10,720
Speaker 1: seems like a fit for the Cowboys in terms of

4122
03:27:11,720 --> 03:27:16,080
Speaker 1: pass rushers, maybe the linebackers, although maybe that was just

4123
03:27:16,240 --> 03:27:18,360
Speaker 1: them doing the due diligence on the guys that we're

4124
03:27:18,360 --> 03:27:19,880
Speaker 1: going to go in the first round in case they

4125
03:27:19,959 --> 03:27:23,240
Speaker 1: moved around or they got stuck. Or do we think

4126
03:27:23,360 --> 03:27:25,680
Speaker 1: they're a team that seems like they enjoy picking mid

4127
03:27:25,800 --> 03:27:29,720
Speaker 1: round linebackers pretty much every year, Dave, What do we

4128
03:27:30,000 --> 03:27:32,880
Speaker 1: think or know about their interest in linebacker? Could have

4129
03:27:33,040 --> 03:27:35,040
Speaker 1: just been those top guys as a just in case,

4130
03:27:35,720 --> 03:27:38,400
Speaker 1: or do we pay attention to them all the way through? Yeah,

4131
03:27:38,560 --> 03:27:42,200
Speaker 1: that's a I mean me personally, I've always targeted Day

4132
03:27:42,280 --> 03:27:45,480
Speaker 1: three for a linebacker, but I would be lying if

4133
03:27:45,600 --> 03:27:49,360
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of specific names, either Kenneth Murray

4134
03:27:49,440 --> 03:27:52,520
Speaker 1: and Patrick Queen or the two that we really heard linked,

4135
03:27:54,400 --> 03:27:57,280
Speaker 1: you know for monement, Like I'm very intrigued by Marcus

4136
03:27:57,360 --> 03:27:59,760
Speaker 1: Bailey out of Purdue. I don't know if the Cowboys

4137
03:27:59,800 --> 03:28:02,400
Speaker 1: are h Jacob Phillips out of LSU I think is

4138
03:28:02,440 --> 03:28:05,760
Speaker 1: a really underrated player. But I haven't heard any of

4139
03:28:05,840 --> 03:28:09,960
Speaker 1: them linked to the Cowboys. Um, so that's that's gonna

4140
03:28:10,000 --> 03:28:11,600
Speaker 1: be something to watch. I just I think it makes

4141
03:28:11,640 --> 03:28:14,119
Speaker 1: too much sense. Maybe with one of those fifth round picks,

4142
03:28:14,920 --> 03:28:17,760
Speaker 1: UH to draft some depth at that position. But like

4143
03:28:17,840 --> 03:28:20,520
Speaker 1: I said, I haven't heard any name beyond those first rounds.

4144
03:28:20,520 --> 03:28:22,959
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that app State kid Davis Gaither

4145
03:28:23,120 --> 03:28:25,840
Speaker 1: can play. I mean you you watch him and you're

4146
03:28:25,879 --> 03:28:29,680
Speaker 1: and I know will probably won't take but that state

4147
03:28:29,680 --> 03:28:31,720
Speaker 1: should count. They play the big boys and give him trust.

4148
03:28:31,760 --> 03:28:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying every year, you don't want to schedule him

4149
03:28:33,520 --> 03:28:35,480
Speaker 1: early in the year because they'll take you down. They'll

4150
03:28:35,520 --> 03:28:38,080
Speaker 1: take a check, he'll beat you. Yeah, exactly, But I

4151
03:28:38,400 --> 03:28:46,720
Speaker 1: just watching him. Go Dave draft the New York Jets

4152
03:28:46,720 --> 03:28:53,440
Speaker 1: select Jabari Zuniga, defensive end Florida. All right, Brian, guy,

4153
03:28:53,560 --> 03:28:55,040
Speaker 1: you want to hit us with the scouting report on

4154
03:28:55,080 --> 03:28:57,800
Speaker 1: your guy before Dave attacks app State, hit him, reason,

4155
03:28:58,120 --> 03:29:00,600
Speaker 1: hit him real quick. I'm doing some paperwork, okay, Dane,

4156
03:29:00,600 --> 03:29:03,800
Speaker 1: go ahead and hit us with Jabari Zuniga. Zuniga's a

4157
03:29:03,840 --> 03:29:06,480
Speaker 1: face up pass rusher. He's not going to bend the

4158
03:29:06,640 --> 03:29:09,280
Speaker 1: edge or you know, win with just pure speed. He's

4159
03:29:09,280 --> 03:29:12,480
Speaker 1: gonna go right at you, use his length and try

4160
03:29:12,520 --> 03:29:15,520
Speaker 1: to bully you, try to overpower you. He was very

4161
03:29:15,560 --> 03:29:18,200
Speaker 1: productive as a junior, then missed a big chunk of

4162
03:29:18,240 --> 03:29:20,800
Speaker 1: the senior year due to injury, but still a very

4163
03:29:20,879 --> 03:29:23,040
Speaker 1: good player who I think tested a lot better. And

4164
03:29:23,120 --> 03:29:25,840
Speaker 1: we thought two hundred sixty five pounds and he ran

4165
03:29:25,920 --> 03:29:29,040
Speaker 1: in the mid four sixes, and so the testing numbers

4166
03:29:29,080 --> 03:29:31,920
Speaker 1: were there, the tape was there. Just a quality passed

4167
03:29:32,000 --> 03:29:34,640
Speaker 1: rusher reminds me a lot of you know, the Jets

4168
03:29:34,760 --> 03:29:38,200
Speaker 1: drafted Jordan Jenkins out of Georgia a couple of years ago.

4169
03:29:38,360 --> 03:29:40,040
Speaker 1: Similar type of player here at this point in the

4170
03:29:40,120 --> 03:29:42,640
Speaker 1: third round. Yeah, I mean, right now, they're showing the highlights.

4171
03:29:42,800 --> 03:29:44,560
Speaker 1: One of the games I watched and it was Miami,

4172
03:29:44,720 --> 03:29:46,960
Speaker 1: and he the game. He killed the game at the end,

4173
03:29:47,360 --> 03:29:49,560
Speaker 1: the pressure that he was able to make a couple

4174
03:29:49,600 --> 03:29:52,200
Speaker 1: of different times. I think Dane's got him absolutely right.

4175
03:29:52,800 --> 03:29:55,480
Speaker 1: The type of player. I did see a little bit

4176
03:29:55,560 --> 03:29:58,320
Speaker 1: more quickness with him. He's got some traits that are

4177
03:29:58,400 --> 03:30:00,080
Speaker 1: that will impress you, but you know, he could be

4178
03:30:00,200 --> 03:30:03,080
Speaker 1: really inconsistent at times. You know, there's quickness and then

4179
03:30:03,080 --> 03:30:04,880
Speaker 1: there's snaps where he's laid off the ball, and then

4180
03:30:05,160 --> 03:30:07,360
Speaker 1: like a time about the Miami game. Uh. You know,

4181
03:30:07,520 --> 03:30:09,480
Speaker 1: I was a lot higher on him because I did

4182
03:30:10,000 --> 03:30:13,200
Speaker 1: those traits flashed at me and I'm thinking, Okay, find

4183
03:30:13,400 --> 03:30:15,600
Speaker 1: a guy that's got some traits, find some guy that

4184
03:30:15,640 --> 03:30:18,240
Speaker 1: can maybe capture that edge. I probably had him way

4185
03:30:18,280 --> 03:30:20,280
Speaker 1: too high to where I got him, but I'm glad

4186
03:30:20,320 --> 03:30:22,840
Speaker 1: he finally got picked here by the New York Jets.

4187
03:30:23,320 --> 03:30:26,200
Speaker 1: I wonder I think he would have been in pretty

4188
03:30:26,240 --> 03:30:29,960
Speaker 1: serious consideration if he had lasted another couple picks. We'll

4189
03:30:30,000 --> 03:30:33,480
Speaker 1: never know now, but that's what I think. Vegas defensive

4190
03:30:33,520 --> 03:30:37,920
Speaker 1: line in general has him or has defensive line need

4191
03:30:37,959 --> 03:30:39,640
Speaker 1: at least at eighty two. So I think you could

4192
03:30:39,640 --> 03:30:42,240
Speaker 1: still throw maybe a Curtis Weaver or Jordan Elliott in there.

4193
03:30:42,560 --> 03:30:45,720
Speaker 1: Sure Vegas was going double pick here, and I hope

4194
03:30:45,760 --> 03:30:47,840
Speaker 1: when they announced the first one they just announced them

4195
03:30:47,920 --> 03:30:51,200
Speaker 1: both got two picks. Don't you know them both? No,

4196
03:30:51,360 --> 03:30:53,800
Speaker 1: they never do that. This isn't This isn't the first

4197
03:30:53,840 --> 03:30:56,120
Speaker 1: time we've had back to back picks. This is this

4198
03:30:56,240 --> 03:30:59,840
Speaker 1: is the two land mines that I mentioned before. Dane,

4199
03:31:00,200 --> 03:31:02,560
Speaker 1: just tell us, what are you doing Dane. Dane knows

4200
03:31:04,120 --> 03:31:06,640
Speaker 1: this morning. No, I just look when you think about

4201
03:31:06,760 --> 03:31:08,880
Speaker 1: Mike Mayock and what he's looking for, John Brud, what

4202
03:31:08,959 --> 03:31:11,760
Speaker 1: he's looking for. Troll Burgess is a player where they

4203
03:31:11,879 --> 03:31:14,560
Speaker 1: just the coaches that Utah won't shut up about him.

4204
03:31:15,000 --> 03:31:17,680
Speaker 1: Kyle Willingham, Kyle Winningham was a pro coach for a

4205
03:31:17,720 --> 03:31:21,600
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, the defensive coordinator Skali mean, they talk

4206
03:31:21,640 --> 03:31:24,200
Speaker 1: about him as you know, he's he's one of their

4207
03:31:24,280 --> 03:31:29,400
Speaker 1: sons and so big special teams guy, versatile. Uh So,

4208
03:31:29,520 --> 03:31:32,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot of the picks in right now. Let's

4209
03:31:32,280 --> 03:31:36,240
Speaker 1: go to Namily joins me and offering our condolences as

4210
03:31:36,280 --> 03:31:39,560
Speaker 1: we join you tonight in honoring Rico's memory by making

4211
03:31:39,680 --> 03:31:44,040
Speaker 1: this next pick in his honor. With the eightieth pick

4212
03:31:44,520 --> 03:31:48,440
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Las Vegas Raiders

4213
03:31:48,680 --> 03:31:54,800
Speaker 1: select Lynn Bowden hon Kentucky the other picking a quarterback here,

4214
03:31:54,879 --> 03:31:57,200
Speaker 1: how but they're listening to him as a wide receiver.

4215
03:31:57,400 --> 03:32:03,000
Speaker 1: That's interesting? Why huh? Yeah? Lynn Lynn Bowden junior, Holy cow,

4216
03:32:03,400 --> 03:32:07,680
Speaker 1: what a fun all purpose player. I need to give

4217
03:32:07,680 --> 03:32:10,480
Speaker 1: a shout out to my brother Seth, who went to

4218
03:32:10,520 --> 03:32:13,119
Speaker 1: actually went to high school with Lynn Bowden. Here in Warren,

4219
03:32:13,160 --> 03:32:15,560
Speaker 1: Ohio and told me about him five six years ago,

4220
03:32:15,640 --> 03:32:17,640
Speaker 1: how good this guy was, and so cut them on

4221
03:32:17,720 --> 03:32:19,880
Speaker 1: my radar, and man, he was right. This is a

4222
03:32:20,000 --> 03:32:22,800
Speaker 1: good player. Just is he gonna running back? Is he receiver?

4223
03:32:23,080 --> 03:32:25,080
Speaker 1: Just just get the ball in his hands. He's got

4224
03:32:25,120 --> 03:32:27,560
Speaker 1: some lower body power to him. He can make guys miss.

4225
03:32:28,240 --> 03:32:30,360
Speaker 1: A lot to like about Lynn Bowden and what he

4226
03:32:30,400 --> 03:32:32,120
Speaker 1: can bring to your offense. Well, and he's also a

4227
03:32:32,200 --> 03:32:34,760
Speaker 1: return threat. I mean one of those videos that kind

4228
03:32:34,800 --> 03:32:37,360
Speaker 1: of surfaced again this past week was a return that

4229
03:32:37,480 --> 03:32:39,240
Speaker 1: he had or it wasn't even a return. He was

4230
03:32:39,320 --> 03:32:42,080
Speaker 1: the punter on special teams because of course the guy

4231
03:32:42,120 --> 03:32:44,400
Speaker 1: plays every position out there, and then he took it

4232
03:32:44,480 --> 03:32:46,240
Speaker 1: one hundred and eight yards to the house after a

4233
03:32:46,280 --> 03:32:48,840
Speaker 1: fumbled snap because he just looked like a man playing

4234
03:32:48,840 --> 03:32:53,080
Speaker 1: amongst boys. So that continued into college. Even at the

4235
03:32:53,240 --> 03:32:56,840
Speaker 1: SEC level. He was all of Kentucky's offense. He's over

4236
03:32:56,920 --> 03:32:59,000
Speaker 1: the course over the course of the season, he is

4237
03:32:59,040 --> 03:33:03,600
Speaker 1: He's one of the most everybody in the Everybody in

4238
03:33:03,680 --> 03:33:07,360
Speaker 1: the SEC knew that he was limited as a passer

4239
03:33:07,480 --> 03:33:09,920
Speaker 1: and that they were just gonna run a run based offense,

4240
03:33:10,000 --> 03:33:13,440
Speaker 1: and nobody could do anything with him. Anyway, they averaged

4241
03:33:13,480 --> 03:33:16,160
Speaker 1: like one hundred and seventy eight rushing yards per game

4242
03:33:16,800 --> 03:33:20,160
Speaker 1: with a wide receiver playing quarterback. I actually I talked

4243
03:33:20,160 --> 03:33:23,600
Speaker 1: to Randall Cobb in the Cowboys locker room about Bowden

4244
03:33:23,840 --> 03:33:27,440
Speaker 1: during the season, and Cobb obviously went to Kentucky and

4245
03:33:27,520 --> 03:33:29,880
Speaker 1: he's like, he's the best Kentucky player in history. And

4246
03:33:30,000 --> 03:33:32,160
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, dude, you realize you went there too,

4247
03:33:32,240 --> 03:33:34,280
Speaker 1: And he was like, yeah, I said what I said? Wow,

4248
03:33:34,720 --> 03:33:38,240
Speaker 1: So that's pretty high praise. Yeah. I think the world

4249
03:33:38,320 --> 03:33:40,080
Speaker 1: of him. I can't wait to watch him in the NFL.

4250
03:33:40,920 --> 03:33:45,720
Speaker 1: All right, Vegas has made one of their picks, but I, oh,

4251
03:33:45,840 --> 03:33:49,840
Speaker 1: you well, we're talking about him. Holy cow. Hey, guys,

4252
03:33:50,360 --> 03:33:53,040
Speaker 1: have I told you thought something the show? I told

4253
03:33:53,080 --> 03:33:56,320
Speaker 1: you guys something. I'm super excited about us, Jeff. Join

4254
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4256
03:34:02,240 --> 03:34:04,920
Speaker 1: to those on the front line on Saturday, April twenty fifth,

4257
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4258
03:34:08,720 --> 03:34:13,039
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4259
03:34:13,080 --> 03:34:17,280
Speaker 1: today at Dallas Cowboys dot com slash Draft live. I

4260
03:34:17,400 --> 03:34:19,240
Speaker 1: was just excited about telling you guys that wanted you

4261
03:34:19,280 --> 03:34:21,640
Speaker 1: to know. Why did you let us know? Yeah, I

4262
03:34:22,000 --> 03:34:23,760
Speaker 1: thought that that was something you guys would want to know.

4263
03:34:23,800 --> 03:34:26,160
Speaker 1: I also wonder if you would want to hear what

4264
03:34:26,280 --> 03:34:28,720
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell says for their second pick to the Bigot.

4265
03:34:30,280 --> 03:34:33,720
Speaker 1: With the eighty first pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft,

4266
03:34:34,480 --> 03:34:40,080
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders select Brian Edwards, wide receiver South Carolina.

4267
03:34:40,640 --> 03:34:45,600
Speaker 1: Much like Screw could not help himself. Much like South

4268
03:34:45,680 --> 03:34:49,160
Speaker 1: Carolina's core receiver in the draft last year, get that

4269
03:34:49,280 --> 03:34:51,760
Speaker 1: dude the ball and see who he runs over. Brian

4270
03:34:51,920 --> 03:34:55,120
Speaker 1: Edwards is a tough, tough dude once he has the

4271
03:34:55,160 --> 03:34:57,080
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. So they just remade their whole

4272
03:34:57,120 --> 03:35:00,920
Speaker 1: receiver corps in two days. Yes, they did three rugs,

4273
03:35:01,160 --> 03:35:05,080
Speaker 1: Lynn Bawd and Brian Edwards. That is fun. Who's the

4274
03:35:05,160 --> 03:35:09,000
Speaker 1: course of thretty good players? Derek carr Well Cowboys are

4275
03:35:09,080 --> 03:35:11,400
Speaker 1: on the clock at number car Gonna throw it down

4276
03:35:11,480 --> 03:35:13,600
Speaker 1: field of these guys or how's that going to work? Oh?

4277
03:35:13,640 --> 03:35:15,520
Speaker 1: They just know you had to run after. They just

4278
03:35:15,600 --> 03:35:18,000
Speaker 1: run after. Yeah, run us lant route over the middle.

4279
03:35:18,160 --> 03:35:21,800
Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys are on the clock. Officially at eighty

4280
03:35:21,879 --> 03:35:24,520
Speaker 1: two right now and the pick is in. By the way,

4281
03:35:24,640 --> 03:35:27,080
Speaker 1: it didn't take them long. But we'll look at the

4282
03:35:27,160 --> 03:35:31,000
Speaker 1: options until we actually get the announcement. My best guys

4283
03:35:31,320 --> 03:35:34,480
Speaker 1: Terrell Burgess, Utah safety, the Keem Davis s gather App

4284
03:35:34,560 --> 03:35:37,920
Speaker 1: State linebacker, Jordan Elliott, the d tackle out of Missouri,

4285
03:35:38,600 --> 03:35:42,480
Speaker 1: Terrell Lewis at Alabama, the pass rusher, and Curtis Weaver

4286
03:35:42,640 --> 03:35:46,800
Speaker 1: the pass rusher at Boise, along with Lloyd Cushionberry at center,

4287
03:35:47,560 --> 03:35:50,760
Speaker 1: maybe Cameron Danceler and Meek Robertson at corner. But those

4288
03:35:50,800 --> 03:35:53,840
Speaker 1: are the names that I've got. I think the defensive

4289
03:35:53,920 --> 03:35:57,440
Speaker 1: tackle here we didn't mention Gallimore was a guy to

4290
03:35:57,640 --> 03:35:59,920
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma kid. I love his effort. By the way,

4291
03:36:00,000 --> 03:36:01,400
Speaker 1: I may have a couple of times with the ball

4292
03:36:01,480 --> 03:36:03,120
Speaker 1: broke and he was able to go make that play.

4293
03:36:03,440 --> 03:36:05,160
Speaker 1: So where would you play? I mean, he's a three technique.

4294
03:36:05,160 --> 03:36:06,880
Speaker 1: I think Gallimore is a three technique to me. I

4295
03:36:06,920 --> 03:36:09,119
Speaker 1: just I saw him get pushed around on tape, which

4296
03:36:09,160 --> 03:36:11,040
Speaker 1: I didn't love. But you did see a lot of

4297
03:36:11,080 --> 03:36:13,840
Speaker 1: snaps where you're like, oh, there's there's some initial quickness

4298
03:36:13,920 --> 03:36:16,080
Speaker 1: here that maybe wasn't measured at the combine, but there's

4299
03:36:16,080 --> 03:36:19,039
Speaker 1: some initial quickness here to beat blockers early. How about

4300
03:36:19,080 --> 03:36:24,279
Speaker 1: the pairing between what could be Gallimore and then Gerald McCoy,

4301
03:36:24,800 --> 03:36:29,240
Speaker 1: two Oklahoma products on that defensive line. You throw Don

4302
03:36:29,320 --> 03:36:31,360
Speaker 1: Torri Poe in there as well, that would be fun

4303
03:36:31,440 --> 03:36:33,320
Speaker 1: to me. Honestly, I was still kind of looking at

4304
03:36:33,400 --> 03:36:35,800
Speaker 1: the secondary. But now that you've kind of brought up Gallimore,

4305
03:36:36,400 --> 03:36:38,760
Speaker 1: I like that idea. The fact that he's even here.

4306
03:36:39,200 --> 03:36:41,840
Speaker 1: It's I mean, I would prefer an edge rusher, but

4307
03:36:42,560 --> 03:36:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, those options kind of got taken away from you.

4308
03:36:44,920 --> 03:36:48,000
Speaker 1: And I mean, you would you be comfortable with Weaver here?

4309
03:36:48,040 --> 03:36:52,039
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Me personally, I don't really like Weaver.

4310
03:36:52,280 --> 03:36:54,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I went and spent some more time with

4311
03:36:54,720 --> 03:36:57,879
Speaker 1: him earlier this week, and I just didn't see anything

4312
03:36:57,959 --> 03:37:00,440
Speaker 1: that translated to what I think the Cowboy want to do.

4313
03:37:00,760 --> 03:37:09,920
Speaker 1: The NFL Draft to Dallas Cowboys select Neville Gallimore, defensive tackle, Oklahoma. Okay,

4314
03:37:10,080 --> 03:37:12,560
Speaker 1: there's a guy we're talking about, Neville Gallimore. Guy. You

4315
03:37:12,600 --> 03:37:15,640
Speaker 1: see him with the initial quickness winning early in the

4316
03:37:16,080 --> 03:37:18,480
Speaker 1: in the plays, as a guy that's able to penetrate

4317
03:37:18,520 --> 03:37:20,840
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher and kind of shoot gaps in

4318
03:37:20,879 --> 03:37:23,200
Speaker 1: the run game. I had questions about his power and

4319
03:37:23,280 --> 03:37:25,360
Speaker 1: his ability to anchor. What do you guys see on

4320
03:37:25,480 --> 03:37:28,840
Speaker 1: the scouting report for Neville Gallimore. I saw a player

4321
03:37:28,920 --> 03:37:31,680
Speaker 1: who he would get to the backfield, but then he

4322
03:37:31,720 --> 03:37:35,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't finish. I think he has some uh some struggles

4323
03:37:36,000 --> 03:37:41,640
Speaker 1: to really uh turn make hard directions in small areas.

4324
03:37:42,240 --> 03:37:44,800
Speaker 1: Love the quickness, I just wish he was a better finisher.

4325
03:37:45,160 --> 03:37:47,440
Speaker 1: And you know, we don't like the harp too much

4326
03:37:47,480 --> 03:37:49,840
Speaker 1: on the production, but this is for a guy with

4327
03:37:49,959 --> 03:37:52,160
Speaker 1: these types of traits. I wanted to see more than

4328
03:37:52,240 --> 03:37:54,720
Speaker 1: eight and a half career sacks, you know, and I

4329
03:37:54,840 --> 03:37:58,080
Speaker 1: don't again, I trust the tape every single time, but

4330
03:37:58,360 --> 03:38:01,560
Speaker 1: production matters, and he just didn't have the backfield production.

4331
03:38:02,000 --> 03:38:05,480
Speaker 1: From a guy that's nicknamed the Canadian Bulldozer, you just

4332
03:38:05,640 --> 03:38:09,000
Speaker 1: expected a little bit more. But he is a very

4333
03:38:09,200 --> 03:38:12,119
Speaker 1: toolsy player. You love the effort, you love the quickness.

4334
03:38:12,480 --> 03:38:14,760
Speaker 1: So I think his best football is ahead of him,

4335
03:38:14,879 --> 03:38:17,560
Speaker 1: and so just hopefully this coaching staff can get it

4336
03:38:17,600 --> 03:38:20,160
Speaker 1: out of him. Yeah, I think Dane's got him dead

4337
03:38:20,240 --> 03:38:23,280
Speaker 1: on and the ability. I thought the pressive thing about

4338
03:38:23,360 --> 03:38:26,520
Speaker 1: him was his ability to get play with range to

4339
03:38:26,680 --> 03:38:29,160
Speaker 1: get to the outside, you know, chase the ball, all

4340
03:38:29,200 --> 03:38:31,320
Speaker 1: those kinds of things. But he's a guy that when

4341
03:38:31,320 --> 03:38:34,560
Speaker 1: you watch you play, he doesn't stop. Everything is fast,

4342
03:38:34,680 --> 03:38:36,800
Speaker 1: it's quick, keeps going. He tries to do his best.

4343
03:38:37,080 --> 03:38:39,840
Speaker 1: But Dane's right about the finish there too. Ceedee Lamb

4344
03:38:39,920 --> 03:38:44,560
Speaker 1: in the first round, Neville Gallimore now in the third round,

4345
03:38:44,640 --> 03:38:46,880
Speaker 1: and Trey Von Diggs in the second round for the

4346
03:38:46,959 --> 03:38:50,360
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4352
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4353
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Speaker 1: You're listening to the twenty twenty NFL Draft on one

4354
03:39:15,920 --> 03:39:18,560
Speaker 1: oh five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot com,

4355
03:39:20,480 --> 03:39:23,800
Speaker 1: and we continue on the Cowboys Socials as well as

4356
03:39:24,240 --> 03:39:28,240
Speaker 1: the Cowboys website after the eighty second pick. Here in

4357
03:39:28,360 --> 03:39:33,560
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Neville Gallamore, Oklahoma defensive tackle guys.

4358
03:39:33,600 --> 03:39:36,240
Speaker 1: Are we happy overall with this? I know with a fit, yeah,

4359
03:39:36,280 --> 03:39:38,440
Speaker 1: and it makes a lot of sense. This is another

4360
03:39:38,520 --> 03:39:41,720
Speaker 1: solid pick. Are they three for three? Though? I will

4361
03:39:41,840 --> 03:39:45,240
Speaker 1: say no, because for me, he wouldn't have been one

4362
03:39:45,280 --> 03:39:47,280
Speaker 1: of the top I haven't graded as a third round player,

4363
03:39:47,280 --> 03:39:49,800
Speaker 1: and they picked him in the third round, so that's fine.

4364
03:39:50,000 --> 03:39:53,560
Speaker 1: But one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. I had

4365
03:39:53,680 --> 03:39:55,920
Speaker 1: seven or so guys ahead of him, but that's still

4366
03:39:56,080 --> 03:39:58,640
Speaker 1: towards the top of my board, So I won't kill

4367
03:39:58,760 --> 03:40:00,920
Speaker 1: him for it. But I some guys that I liked

4368
03:40:00,959 --> 03:40:03,440
Speaker 1: better than him. They like college players that wear crimson

4369
03:40:03,520 --> 03:40:05,320
Speaker 1: and white, at least in the course of this draft

4370
03:40:05,440 --> 03:40:09,520
Speaker 1: right now, because the two Oklahoma guys in an Alabama cornerback.

4371
03:40:09,640 --> 03:40:12,320
Speaker 1: So one of the things at least that I had

4372
03:40:12,600 --> 03:40:14,280
Speaker 1: written down on my film study of him is that

4373
03:40:14,360 --> 03:40:15,880
Speaker 1: he didn't have as much bend as I kind of

4374
03:40:15,920 --> 03:40:18,320
Speaker 1: wanted to. And you could see that at least in

4375
03:40:18,440 --> 03:40:22,600
Speaker 1: the combine drills where the change of the direction was

4376
03:40:23,000 --> 03:40:25,360
Speaker 1: a little bit stagnant. Is that something that you would

4377
03:40:25,360 --> 03:40:28,160
Speaker 1: be worried about here, because, like Brian was talking about,

4378
03:40:28,200 --> 03:40:30,560
Speaker 1: he's a sidelines the sideline kind of guy. I don't

4379
03:40:30,560 --> 03:40:33,320
Speaker 1: know if that's a whole lot of a worry as

4380
03:40:33,400 --> 03:40:36,560
Speaker 1: long as he's got some got some lateral and some

4381
03:40:36,680 --> 03:40:39,160
Speaker 1: athleticism too. I think Dane's kind it perfect though that

4382
03:40:39,280 --> 03:40:41,200
Speaker 1: the finish is the thing you worry about if you're

4383
03:40:41,280 --> 03:40:43,280
Speaker 1: if you're going to get in position and play with

4384
03:40:43,360 --> 03:40:45,560
Speaker 1: the range and things like that. I think he'd have

4385
03:40:45,560 --> 03:40:47,800
Speaker 1: been if if he was a better finisher he had

4386
03:40:47,920 --> 03:40:50,440
Speaker 1: have he'd be a second round guy. He wouldn't be

4387
03:40:50,520 --> 03:40:52,320
Speaker 1: in the third round. I think there's people that have

4388
03:40:52,440 --> 03:40:55,680
Speaker 1: a lot of questions. I know I have questions about him. Uh,

4389
03:40:56,400 --> 03:40:58,280
Speaker 1: you know that would be like to finish, you know,

4390
03:40:58,320 --> 03:41:01,280
Speaker 1: if you get in position, make it happens. There's times

4391
03:41:01,320 --> 03:41:03,200
Speaker 1: where guys get away from him and stuff like that,

4392
03:41:03,360 --> 03:41:05,600
Speaker 1: and I think that's a little bit disappointing for him.

4393
03:41:06,200 --> 03:41:07,840
Speaker 1: I did like his forty though. He ran a four

4394
03:41:08,000 --> 03:41:10,760
Speaker 1: seven nine. A big guy like that, you shouldn't be

4395
03:41:10,879 --> 03:41:13,480
Speaker 1: running a four seven nine of the combine six two

4396
03:41:13,640 --> 03:41:15,920
Speaker 1: three oh four. You could see that on his film

4397
03:41:16,000 --> 03:41:19,320
Speaker 1: as well. Man there was one play in in his

4398
03:41:19,440 --> 03:41:22,920
Speaker 1: Big twelve championship game against Baylor that stuck out to me.

4399
03:41:23,120 --> 03:41:27,000
Speaker 1: Dan Well that three combe though seven nine to seven. Yeah,

4400
03:41:27,480 --> 03:41:31,200
Speaker 1: that's abysmal and so you do that speaks to the

4401
03:41:31,879 --> 03:41:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, lack of change of direction, skills, the inability

4402
03:41:34,680 --> 03:41:36,880
Speaker 1: to finish in tight areas. That's kind of what you

4403
03:41:36,959 --> 03:41:38,840
Speaker 1: worry about with them. And again, for a player with

4404
03:41:39,440 --> 03:41:42,200
Speaker 1: all that ability, you just you wanted to see better production.

4405
03:41:42,320 --> 03:41:45,840
Speaker 1: But I think context is important here. Oklahoma would line

4406
03:41:45,879 --> 03:41:48,720
Speaker 1: him up, head up over the center. Yeah, those tackle

4407
03:41:49,360 --> 03:41:51,440
Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't asked to just let loose and

4408
03:41:52,000 --> 03:41:54,160
Speaker 1: win as a three technique in a lot of situations.

4409
03:41:54,240 --> 03:41:57,160
Speaker 1: So I think if he is in the right situation,

4410
03:41:57,360 --> 03:42:00,600
Speaker 1: that that is something that could really help him. And

4411
03:42:00,920 --> 03:42:03,320
Speaker 1: what does this say about Triston Hill and his how

4412
03:42:03,360 --> 03:42:06,800
Speaker 1: he fits with moving forward? Nobody here's got loyalty left

4413
03:42:06,840 --> 03:42:08,520
Speaker 1: to him, right, Yeah, I mean you got a new coach,

4414
03:42:09,200 --> 03:42:11,080
Speaker 1: you got a new coaching staff. They don't have any

4415
03:42:11,160 --> 03:42:14,880
Speaker 1: loyalty to the to the previous right guys, let me

4416
03:42:15,320 --> 03:42:18,800
Speaker 1: Dane before we bury Tristan Hill. Let me ask you

4417
03:42:18,959 --> 03:42:21,120
Speaker 1: this though, I because I am I mean, I don't

4418
03:42:21,160 --> 03:42:23,280
Speaker 1: dislike the pick at all. I'm you know, he's not

4419
03:42:23,959 --> 03:42:26,119
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players, but if fits a need,

4420
03:42:26,200 --> 03:42:28,600
Speaker 1: I think you know, it fits the draft slot. I

4421
03:42:28,879 --> 03:42:32,560
Speaker 1: don't dislike it by any means, but knowing what we know,

4422
03:42:33,840 --> 03:42:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Nolan, it seems like they're going to

4423
03:42:37,200 --> 03:42:39,640
Speaker 1: be a little multiple. They could, you know, mess with

4424
03:42:39,720 --> 03:42:41,880
Speaker 1: their front a little bit. They've got Poe and McCoy

4425
03:42:41,959 --> 03:42:44,600
Speaker 1: who can play in both fronts, who also are going

4426
03:42:44,680 --> 03:42:48,840
Speaker 1: to start. So there's no starting spot for Neville Gallimore.

4427
03:42:49,560 --> 03:42:53,200
Speaker 1: What what does his rookie season look like? Is this

4428
03:42:53,360 --> 03:42:56,040
Speaker 1: just a rotational guy? Does he have the flex to

4429
03:42:56,720 --> 03:42:59,200
Speaker 1: play a variety of different positions? Can he play three

4430
03:42:59,320 --> 03:43:02,120
Speaker 1: and one? Could he maybe do some three four defensive

4431
03:43:02,200 --> 03:43:03,879
Speaker 1: end if they wanted him to? What do you think?

4432
03:43:04,959 --> 03:43:07,600
Speaker 1: I think you go to training camp and say you've

4433
03:43:07,680 --> 03:43:09,440
Speaker 1: got a chance to win a job here, let's see

4434
03:43:09,440 --> 03:43:11,480
Speaker 1: what you can do. And because I think he does

4435
03:43:11,560 --> 03:43:13,840
Speaker 1: have the ability uh to do that. He was a

4436
03:43:13,840 --> 03:43:17,039
Speaker 1: four year starter at Oklahoma. He's played a lot of football. Uh.

4437
03:43:17,360 --> 03:43:20,400
Speaker 1: Can he be the guy that steps up and wins

4438
03:43:20,440 --> 03:43:22,280
Speaker 1: a job? I think he can. He just needs to

4439
03:43:22,360 --> 03:43:25,760
Speaker 1: be more consistent. Uh. And the thing that really helps him,

4440
03:43:25,879 --> 03:43:27,680
Speaker 1: that will really go a long way with his coaching

4441
03:43:27,720 --> 03:43:34,800
Speaker 1: staff is the effort. Who Texas Tech game, Oh my gosh, effort, play,

4442
03:43:34,840 --> 03:43:37,760
Speaker 1: absolute effort, play after effort, play and he's affecting the

4443
03:43:37,879 --> 03:43:40,279
Speaker 1: game with his hustle, and that's something that the coaches

4444
03:43:40,280 --> 03:43:43,400
Speaker 1: will love. Is this the first Senior Bowl guy that

4445
03:43:43,480 --> 03:43:46,920
Speaker 1: we've seen for the Cowboys? Because I don't believe was

4446
03:43:49,040 --> 03:43:51,120
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. I didn't think so. So this is

4447
03:43:51,120 --> 03:43:54,400
Speaker 1: the first Senior Bowl selection. It's actually that the Cowboys

4448
03:43:54,400 --> 03:43:56,360
Speaker 1: have made. I love the way the draft brings this

4449
03:43:56,440 --> 03:43:59,920
Speaker 1: full circle because Neville Gallimore and Justin Matta Bouquet were

4450
03:44:00,160 --> 03:44:03,800
Speaker 1: We're probably the first two guys that we were really on. Yeah,

4451
03:44:03,840 --> 03:44:05,880
Speaker 1: you're exactly right, all the way back to the Senior

4452
03:44:05,959 --> 03:44:09,600
Speaker 1: Bowl and low and behold. I mean Gallimore was one

4453
03:44:09,640 --> 03:44:11,280
Speaker 1: of our first names, and here he is on the

4454
03:44:11,360 --> 03:44:13,760
Speaker 1: team three months later. I'm pulling up my notes on

4455
03:44:13,920 --> 03:44:16,040
Speaker 1: what I actually had on him at the Senior Bowl.

4456
03:44:16,080 --> 03:44:18,120
Speaker 1: I'll give you that whenever we get back here on

4457
03:44:18,200 --> 03:44:22,360
Speaker 1: the Fan. Then twenty twenty NFL Draft continued on one

4458
03:44:22,400 --> 03:44:26,000
Speaker 1: O five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

4459
03:44:26,440 --> 03:44:29,360
Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's the twenty twenty NFL Draft. Here on

4460
03:44:29,400 --> 03:44:32,520
Speaker 1: one oh five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

4461
03:44:32,680 --> 03:44:35,760
Speaker 1: It is Jeff Kavan O'Brien brought us Dane Brugler, Dave Hellman,

4462
03:44:35,840 --> 03:44:41,200
Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeoman's the Cowboys most likely done for the night,

4463
03:44:41,360 --> 03:44:43,480
Speaker 1: but they have made their third round pick. It's Neville

4464
03:44:43,560 --> 03:44:47,680
Speaker 1: Gallimore out of Oklahoma. And I think, all in all,

4465
03:44:48,080 --> 03:44:50,120
Speaker 1: when you are looking at what they've done so far

4466
03:44:50,200 --> 03:44:55,640
Speaker 1: in this draft, if I ask Brian or Dane, have

4467
03:44:56,040 --> 03:44:59,280
Speaker 1: all three of their picks been ranked higher for you

4468
03:44:59,440 --> 03:45:02,240
Speaker 1: as a play then the number they were picked at.

4469
03:45:02,440 --> 03:45:05,680
Speaker 1: Does Nevil Gallimore fall into that? Absolutely? Neville Gallimore was

4470
03:45:05,800 --> 03:45:07,879
Speaker 1: seventy for me and they get him at what eighty one?

4471
03:45:08,000 --> 03:45:11,840
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, Ceedee Lamb was seven on

4472
03:45:11,959 --> 03:45:14,960
Speaker 1: my board, get him at seventeen. Trayvone Diggs was I

4473
03:45:15,040 --> 03:45:19,120
Speaker 1: believe like around thirty three. They get him at fifty one.

4474
03:45:19,280 --> 03:45:22,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, just my opinion my board, the

4475
03:45:22,760 --> 03:45:27,600
Speaker 1: Cowboys did really nice with their value here. Yeah, Canadian

4476
03:45:27,640 --> 03:45:29,560
Speaker 1: product by the way, on the team, along with LP

4477
03:45:29,800 --> 03:45:32,640
Speaker 1: and Tyrone Crawford. We got to pick in from the

4478
03:45:32,680 --> 03:45:37,320
Speaker 1: commissioner here for the Rams. Los Angeles Ram select Terrell Lewis,

4479
03:45:38,320 --> 03:45:41,240
Speaker 1: linebacker Alabama. Oh. It's one of the few guys that

4480
03:45:41,360 --> 03:45:43,480
Speaker 1: I think I would have preferred the pick to be. Like,

4481
03:45:43,600 --> 03:45:46,160
Speaker 1: I won't be hard on the Cowboys here because I

4482
03:45:46,240 --> 03:45:49,080
Speaker 1: think I had six guys that I liked more than

4483
03:45:49,800 --> 03:45:53,080
Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore at that spot, and you know, that's pretty

4484
03:45:53,160 --> 03:45:56,360
Speaker 1: darn close to the top. So they've picked probably they

4485
03:45:56,480 --> 03:45:58,240
Speaker 1: might have picked their very top guy on the board

4486
03:45:58,560 --> 03:46:00,560
Speaker 1: multiple times in this draft, and they might have got

4487
03:46:00,640 --> 03:46:03,040
Speaker 1: close to it on the third one. I think I

4488
03:46:03,160 --> 03:46:05,800
Speaker 1: think Gallimore might have been the top grade on their board.

4489
03:46:06,160 --> 03:46:09,520
Speaker 1: And I mean, obviously you can differ, there's nothing wrong

4490
03:46:09,560 --> 03:46:11,240
Speaker 1: with that, but in their minds, I think they got

4491
03:46:11,280 --> 03:46:14,360
Speaker 1: their best guy, and that's you know, Burgess, I God,

4492
03:46:14,440 --> 03:46:16,520
Speaker 1: I want the Cowboys to draft a safety so bad.

4493
03:46:16,680 --> 03:46:19,000
Speaker 1: I think I think everybody knows that about me. But

4494
03:46:20,160 --> 03:46:23,400
Speaker 1: I can't kill them for not drafting a guy with

4495
03:46:23,560 --> 03:46:26,480
Speaker 1: chronic injury issues. I think that's that's the most terrifying

4496
03:46:26,680 --> 03:46:29,560
Speaker 1: kind of player is and that's not his fault. I'm

4497
03:46:29,560 --> 03:46:32,840
Speaker 1: not trying to knock Terrell Lewis, but that stuff scares

4498
03:46:32,879 --> 03:46:36,400
Speaker 1: the crap out of me, and I feel more comfortable

4499
03:46:36,440 --> 03:46:38,760
Speaker 1: with the sure thing in terms of availability. Nine times

4500
03:46:38,800 --> 03:46:42,160
Speaker 1: out of ten. Well, now you've got corner taken care of,

4501
03:46:42,560 --> 03:46:46,199
Speaker 1: you've got wide receiver, and you've got interior defensive line.

4502
03:46:46,240 --> 03:46:49,160
Speaker 1: That leaves edge in safety is really the pressing needs

4503
03:46:49,240 --> 03:46:51,760
Speaker 1: going into Day three. I think you've done yourself a favor,

4504
03:46:52,280 --> 03:46:55,320
Speaker 1: even with even with the first pick being Cede Lamb.

4505
03:46:55,360 --> 03:46:57,560
Speaker 1: I know Cede Lamb was an exciting pick, but it

4506
03:46:57,720 --> 03:47:01,360
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily that that pressing that you have. Now you

4507
03:47:01,600 --> 03:47:03,640
Speaker 1: you move into Day three and you can still maybe

4508
03:47:03,680 --> 03:47:06,080
Speaker 1: go get a linebacker, you can still grab a safety.

4509
03:47:06,160 --> 03:47:08,520
Speaker 1: You can look at edge rusher and still feel good

4510
03:47:08,560 --> 03:47:12,040
Speaker 1: about what you've done in the draft. Oh, I think

4511
03:47:12,160 --> 03:47:14,920
Speaker 1: this this draft is shaping up really well. I mean

4512
03:47:15,840 --> 03:47:18,879
Speaker 1: there's no like this is. This is looking really good.

4513
03:47:19,000 --> 03:47:21,440
Speaker 1: Even if you don't love the Gallimore pick, I mean, Kavanaugh,

4514
03:47:21,480 --> 03:47:23,480
Speaker 1: even you agree with that, right, No, no, no, I do,

4515
03:47:23,640 --> 03:47:24,920
Speaker 1: And I'd like, I don't even want to take it.

4516
03:47:25,480 --> 03:47:27,560
Speaker 1: Oh No, you had six guys in front of him. Like,

4517
03:47:27,640 --> 03:47:29,600
Speaker 1: that's not a pick that I'm going to complain about.

4518
03:47:29,600 --> 03:47:32,240
Speaker 1: You've got a defensive tackle that's got the initial quickness,

4519
03:47:32,280 --> 03:47:34,920
Speaker 1: that has the traits to rush the quarterback. I'm not

4520
03:47:35,040 --> 03:47:37,480
Speaker 1: mad at that pick at all. It's just the first

4521
03:47:37,520 --> 03:47:41,160
Speaker 1: pick they've made where they literally didn't pick the top guy. Yeah,

4522
03:47:41,200 --> 03:47:44,640
Speaker 1: according to me, or Diggs was very very very close

4523
03:47:44,760 --> 03:47:47,160
Speaker 1: so I think it's it's the first time that I

4524
03:47:47,280 --> 03:47:49,840
Speaker 1: have more than three guys that I would have taken

4525
03:47:49,879 --> 03:47:52,200
Speaker 1: over who they took. But to be that close, I

4526
03:47:52,280 --> 03:47:56,000
Speaker 1: love to pick. Here's the cult selection, cold select Julian

4527
03:47:56,240 --> 03:48:01,879
Speaker 1: Blackman defensive back Burgess not even the first Utah safety

4528
03:48:01,920 --> 03:48:05,360
Speaker 1: off the board, how about that? But I love Julian Blackman. Yeah,

4529
03:48:06,959 --> 03:48:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that. That USC tape. I can't get

4530
03:48:09,440 --> 03:48:11,840
Speaker 1: that out of my mind. Michael Pittman just just abusing

4531
03:48:11,959 --> 03:48:15,360
Speaker 1: Julian Blackman, but uh surprised. I mean, he's not a

4532
03:48:15,440 --> 03:48:18,320
Speaker 1: better player than Troll Burgess in my opinion. Read on

4533
03:48:18,400 --> 03:48:22,200
Speaker 1: that real quick before we I mean, before we do that.

4534
03:48:22,280 --> 03:48:24,879
Speaker 1: I mean just thinking about this in the big picture,

4535
03:48:24,879 --> 03:48:28,560
Speaker 1: because we assume the Cowboys are done tonight. Um I get.

4536
03:48:28,600 --> 03:48:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm trying to nitpick, not going edge

4537
03:48:31,840 --> 03:48:36,119
Speaker 1: rusher here at eighty two, by and large probably means

4538
03:48:36,440 --> 03:48:40,400
Speaker 1: you're not finding, you know, a difference maker in for

4539
03:48:40,560 --> 03:48:44,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, at least on the edge. So I mean

4540
03:48:44,080 --> 03:48:46,959
Speaker 1: you're you're you're probably you know, you're hoping Aldon Smith

4541
03:48:47,040 --> 03:48:49,480
Speaker 1: and Randy Gregory and Tyrone Crawford can all be that

4542
03:48:49,640 --> 03:48:53,520
Speaker 1: for you and that's definitely kind of scary. But with

4543
03:48:53,760 --> 03:48:57,680
Speaker 1: what they've gotten, I can't complain about it. Um, if

4544
03:48:57,760 --> 03:48:59,879
Speaker 1: Gallimore is the pick you feel the least good about,

4545
03:49:00,480 --> 03:49:02,800
Speaker 1: I got nothing bad to say, especially you know he's

4546
03:49:02,840 --> 03:49:06,360
Speaker 1: got Dontari Poe and Gerald McCoy a fellow Oklahoma sooner

4547
03:49:06,440 --> 03:49:08,880
Speaker 1: to learn from. I don't think there's any reason to

4548
03:49:08,920 --> 03:49:10,640
Speaker 1: feel bad about that at all. I mean, there's still

4549
03:49:10,960 --> 03:49:13,240
Speaker 1: a defensive end out there in free agency. You're gonna

4550
03:49:13,240 --> 03:49:15,480
Speaker 1: spend a little bit of money, Well yeah, but is

4551
03:49:15,560 --> 03:49:18,680
Speaker 1: that really the Cowboys way? You get some money laying around,

4552
03:49:19,560 --> 03:49:22,440
Speaker 1: a couple bucks laying around. Devion Clowney doesn't have a

4553
03:49:22,480 --> 03:49:26,720
Speaker 1: home right now. I will reinstitute the McDonald's bet with

4554
03:49:26,880 --> 03:49:31,240
Speaker 1: you about that. No, bet, I just thirty two teams.

4555
03:49:31,280 --> 03:49:33,600
Speaker 1: The odds are in your favor. I can't make that bet. Okay,

4556
03:49:33,680 --> 03:49:36,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't be right. But no, I think I think around

4557
03:49:36,120 --> 03:49:39,320
Speaker 1: the room, everybody's pretty darn happy with what the Cowboys

4558
03:49:39,400 --> 03:49:41,560
Speaker 1: have gone. We have done through two days here, you're

4559
03:49:41,560 --> 03:49:44,200
Speaker 1: a better football team than you were yesterday by far.

4560
03:49:44,880 --> 03:49:46,560
Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of what they wanted to

4561
03:49:47,080 --> 03:49:49,720
Speaker 1: give themselves an opportunity to do. Whenever it in terms

4562
03:49:49,760 --> 03:49:52,760
Speaker 1: of free agency. Yes, you just picked up the Ville Gallimore,

4563
03:49:52,840 --> 03:49:56,040
Speaker 1: but you picked up guys like Gerald McCoy and Dontari

4564
03:49:56,120 --> 03:49:58,600
Speaker 1: Poe that if you didn't want to go Gallimore there

4565
03:49:58,800 --> 03:50:01,040
Speaker 1: you'd be fine. Same thing, Edge Rusher. I think it

4566
03:50:01,160 --> 03:50:03,360
Speaker 1: gives him an option and he gives him a safety

4567
03:50:03,440 --> 03:50:05,760
Speaker 1: net to go best player available at least on their

4568
03:50:05,840 --> 03:50:08,960
Speaker 1: board and not have any worries about it. And like

4569
03:50:09,040 --> 03:50:11,720
Speaker 1: what Dave was saying, And now it's time to go hunting.

4570
03:50:11,920 --> 03:50:14,240
Speaker 1: It's time to day three. It's time to find guys

4571
03:50:14,280 --> 03:50:16,280
Speaker 1: that you like the traits on that you hope something

4572
03:50:16,400 --> 03:50:19,200
Speaker 1: can work out for, or see if somebody falls into

4573
03:50:19,280 --> 03:50:21,880
Speaker 1: your lap, because you know, when you're playing the odds

4574
03:50:21,920 --> 03:50:24,240
Speaker 1: your day three guys, some of them aren't gonna make

4575
03:50:24,280 --> 03:50:27,200
Speaker 1: the team, some of them are never gonna make an Impactum,

4576
03:50:27,640 --> 03:50:30,200
Speaker 1: but now it's time to go hunting. Let me do

4577
03:50:30,360 --> 03:50:32,080
Speaker 1: my since he's not talking right now, let me do

4578
03:50:32,200 --> 03:50:36,000
Speaker 1: my broadest impressions. The day of the Scouts, we're gonna

4579
03:50:36,000 --> 03:50:37,840
Speaker 1: go hunting it. I'm gonna go hunting for some for

4580
03:50:37,960 --> 03:50:40,480
Speaker 1: some players. I'm glad you learned after all these years, Dave.

4581
03:50:40,840 --> 03:50:43,960
Speaker 1: The Day of the Scouts, Buffalo Bills pick picks in Yeah,

4582
03:50:44,000 --> 03:50:48,920
Speaker 1: here we go. You talk Ah, Zach Moss running back

4583
03:50:49,400 --> 03:50:52,360
Speaker 1: Utah is going to the Buffalo Bills. I love Zach Moss.

4584
03:50:52,400 --> 03:50:55,280
Speaker 1: He's hard to tackle, running back to break tackles. They're

4585
03:50:55,360 --> 03:50:59,160
Speaker 1: my friend. You look at that Buffalo backfield. Devin's singletary

4586
03:50:59,320 --> 03:51:03,480
Speaker 1: Zach Mah. That's a that's a pretty nice duo back

4587
03:51:03,600 --> 03:51:06,520
Speaker 1: there for Josh Allen at quarterback. Well, they got three

4588
03:51:06,600 --> 03:51:10,440
Speaker 1: running backs. They got Josh Allen back there. So that's nice.

4589
03:51:10,720 --> 03:51:14,240
Speaker 1: That's not even really a joke. It's the best the

4590
03:51:14,320 --> 03:51:18,720
Speaker 1: best thing he has, uh. That team. That team's fun.

4591
03:51:18,840 --> 03:51:21,040
Speaker 1: You know, you build a good defense, you'd have a

4592
03:51:21,120 --> 03:51:23,360
Speaker 1: quarterback whose legs are a threat, and now you're backing

4593
03:51:23,440 --> 03:51:25,800
Speaker 1: him up with a couple of different running backs. It's

4594
03:51:25,800 --> 03:51:28,720
Speaker 1: a little bit old school, um and that I just

4595
03:51:28,880 --> 03:51:30,840
Speaker 1: I like Zach Moss. I think he's a fun runner

4596
03:51:30,880 --> 03:51:33,600
Speaker 1: to watch. I think you got a really mean business

4597
03:51:33,640 --> 03:51:36,560
Speaker 1: if you're going to tackle him. And I think that

4598
03:51:37,240 --> 03:51:39,920
Speaker 1: that bodes well to transition from college to the NFL

4599
03:51:40,040 --> 03:51:42,000
Speaker 1: when you're somebody that people are going to shy away

4600
03:51:42,000 --> 03:51:44,560
Speaker 1: from wanting to hit because you're tough to bring down.

4601
03:51:45,560 --> 03:51:47,800
Speaker 1: He's not even that big. You look at him, you're,

4602
03:51:47,800 --> 03:51:49,880
Speaker 1: I guess not a big guy. I just remember we

4603
03:51:50,000 --> 03:51:53,640
Speaker 1: started the process even last year. He was like running

4604
03:51:53,640 --> 03:51:56,440
Speaker 1: back number one on everybody, and then he stayed in, right,

4605
03:51:56,560 --> 03:51:59,520
Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't, he didn't come out, and everyone's like, Oh,

4606
03:51:59,520 --> 03:52:01,400
Speaker 1: you gotta watch this guy. You gotta watch him, you

4607
03:52:01,400 --> 03:52:03,520
Speaker 1: gotta watch him. And tough, and he is and he

4608
03:52:03,720 --> 03:52:07,200
Speaker 1: is really tough. I mean you catch the ball. I

4609
03:52:07,240 --> 03:52:09,800
Speaker 1: mean there's sometimes when you watch him on tape as

4610
03:52:09,920 --> 03:52:13,280
Speaker 1: pass protector, he's got some of those those all around

4611
03:52:13,360 --> 03:52:15,320
Speaker 1: back trades to him with that ability to step up

4612
03:52:15,320 --> 03:52:17,800
Speaker 1: and hit people. Physical guy well, and kind of going

4613
03:52:17,840 --> 03:52:20,680
Speaker 1: back to what Kavanaugh was saying about his size, he's

4614
03:52:20,720 --> 03:52:22,680
Speaker 1: five nine and a half, but he's still two hundred

4615
03:52:22,680 --> 03:52:25,800
Speaker 1: and twenty three pounds, so he's wide enough to be

4616
03:52:25,960 --> 03:52:28,760
Speaker 1: able to pack an impact on in the middle of

4617
03:52:28,920 --> 03:52:31,120
Speaker 1: runs up the middle, and I think he's somebody that

4618
03:52:31,440 --> 03:52:33,280
Speaker 1: you could just kind of run up the gut and

4619
03:52:33,360 --> 03:52:36,560
Speaker 1: be okay. With the draft rolls on. The Patriots are

4620
03:52:36,600 --> 03:52:39,320
Speaker 1: on the clock at number eighty seven. You've been listening

4621
03:52:39,360 --> 03:52:41,000
Speaker 1: to the draft here one oh five three The Fan

4622
03:52:41,120 --> 03:52:43,560
Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys dot Com Zach and Eric will be

4623
03:52:43,680 --> 03:52:46,320
Speaker 1: coming up next here as the draft rolls on on

4624
03:52:46,600 --> 03:52:49,920
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com. You're listening to the draft on

4625
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Speaker 1: one O five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot com.

4626
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4627
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Speaker 1: and I want to go ahead and tell you about

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and raising virtual funds for the Salvation Army.

4629
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4630
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Speaker 1: online the NFL dot com slash Relief doing some great

4634
03:53:19,560 --> 03:53:22,920
Speaker 1: things during these crucial times here in our community. And

4635
03:53:23,000 --> 03:53:25,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have made their three picks in the first

4636
03:53:25,840 --> 03:53:28,320
Speaker 1: three rounds of the draft, seemingly done for the day

4637
03:53:28,400 --> 03:53:30,200
Speaker 1: unless they want to get crazy here at the back

4638
03:53:30,280 --> 03:53:33,480
Speaker 1: half of the third round. We're almost getting too comp

4639
03:53:33,560 --> 03:53:37,080
Speaker 1: pick time, about ten picks away from at least that

4640
03:53:37,320 --> 03:53:40,240
Speaker 1: sort of thing. You've got the Patriots, the Saints, the Vikings,

4641
03:53:40,320 --> 03:53:43,280
Speaker 1: and the Browns coming up next. As the Patriots are

4642
03:53:43,280 --> 03:53:45,160
Speaker 1: currently on the clock here, guys, how are we kind

4643
03:53:45,200 --> 03:53:47,520
Speaker 1: of shaping out as we go back into this this

4644
03:53:47,720 --> 03:53:52,640
Speaker 1: latter part of the third round. Well, trying to reset

4645
03:53:52,720 --> 03:53:55,720
Speaker 1: the draft board here. You know, we had a few

4646
03:53:55,840 --> 03:53:59,440
Speaker 1: key players coming off Chushian, Barry Lewis, Davis Gaithers still around,

4647
03:53:59,520 --> 03:54:03,440
Speaker 1: Adam Outman from Dayton to tight end, Curtis Weaver Boise State,

4648
03:54:03,600 --> 03:54:07,800
Speaker 1: George Elliott Missouri, Malik Harrison out of Ohio State. And

4649
03:54:07,920 --> 03:54:10,680
Speaker 1: then we still have the quarterbacks, you know, Jake from

4650
03:54:11,600 --> 03:54:14,680
Speaker 1: Jacob Eason. Surprise we haven't heard either of those two

4651
03:54:14,760 --> 03:54:18,600
Speaker 1: names come off the board. I mean, they're issues with

4652
03:54:18,720 --> 03:54:21,120
Speaker 1: both these players said, don't get me wrong, but it's

4653
03:54:21,120 --> 03:54:24,040
Speaker 1: still surprised that we haven't seen one of these teams

4654
03:54:24,160 --> 03:54:27,640
Speaker 1: maybe roll the dice on one of them. Yeah, I'm

4655
03:54:27,680 --> 03:54:29,880
Speaker 1: a little surprised by that too, because normally you would

4656
03:54:29,920 --> 03:54:33,280
Speaker 1: see more quarterbacks go. We've seen the top four in

4657
03:54:33,360 --> 03:54:35,840
Speaker 1: the first round and then one since then. We saw

4658
03:54:36,720 --> 03:54:39,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts to Philadelphia in the second and since then

4659
03:54:39,680 --> 03:54:42,280
Speaker 1: it's been all quiet on the quarterback front, while running

4660
03:54:42,320 --> 03:54:44,800
Speaker 1: backs have kind of been going a little bit crazy.

4661
03:54:44,920 --> 03:54:48,560
Speaker 1: But I guess you can maybe get the sense from

4662
03:54:48,600 --> 03:54:50,680
Speaker 1: some of the teams and the way they've handled their offseason.

4663
03:54:50,720 --> 03:54:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's still guys like Jamis Winston and Cam

4664
03:54:53,120 --> 03:54:55,520
Speaker 1: Newton out on the free agent market. You think that

4665
03:54:55,640 --> 03:54:57,720
Speaker 1: has a little bit of an impact on why teams

4666
03:54:57,840 --> 03:55:01,000
Speaker 1: or maybe reluctant to take a quarterback here. I think

4667
03:55:01,040 --> 03:55:05,400
Speaker 1: not only that, but you think about the current set

4668
03:55:05,480 --> 03:55:07,640
Speaker 1: up of what we think the fall is gonna look like.

4669
03:55:07,720 --> 03:55:09,560
Speaker 1: Are we gonna have a training camp, are we gonna

4670
03:55:09,600 --> 03:55:13,280
Speaker 1: have you know, these opportunities for these young quarterbacks to

4671
03:55:13,960 --> 03:55:17,280
Speaker 1: get acclimated with the playbook and his new teammates and everything,

4672
03:55:17,360 --> 03:55:18,800
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be tough for some of these young

4673
03:55:18,960 --> 03:55:21,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to really, uh, you know, get in there and

4674
03:55:22,240 --> 03:55:24,400
Speaker 1: carve out a role. So I think when you look

4675
03:55:24,400 --> 03:55:27,000
Speaker 1: at both these guys, they both have something about them

4676
03:55:27,080 --> 03:55:30,640
Speaker 1: that you really worry about their their transition. With Easton,

4677
03:55:30,760 --> 03:55:34,160
Speaker 1: it's the heavy feet, his ability to navigate pressure. With

4678
03:55:34,440 --> 03:55:38,640
Speaker 1: from it's he's very scheme specific. So it's interesting that

4679
03:55:39,000 --> 03:55:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, are they going to follow to day three?

4680
03:55:42,000 --> 03:55:44,400
Speaker 1: We have what twenty picks left or so, so it

4681
03:55:44,440 --> 03:55:47,840
Speaker 1: should be interesting. Now and the Patriots selection has been

4682
03:55:47,960 --> 03:55:52,120
Speaker 1: made and announced. Anthony Jennings often or outside linebacker rather

4683
03:55:52,200 --> 03:55:55,600
Speaker 1: out of Alabama is what New England goes with at

4684
03:55:55,680 --> 03:55:58,560
Speaker 1: pick eighty seven. Dane, what's your scouting report on him?

4685
03:55:58,600 --> 03:56:01,120
Speaker 1: This is a guy who going into twenty nineteen I

4686
03:56:01,160 --> 03:56:02,760
Speaker 1: think was tabbed. Is maybe one of the guys to

4687
03:56:02,920 --> 03:56:06,960
Speaker 1: watch as a first or second round recruit. Yeah. With Jennings,

4688
03:56:07,040 --> 03:56:09,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's tough to get overly excited about

4689
03:56:09,720 --> 03:56:12,160
Speaker 1: what he offers because I don't know, average size, six

4690
03:56:12,280 --> 03:56:15,920
Speaker 1: two two fifty six. He's not very sudden as a

4691
03:56:15,960 --> 03:56:19,680
Speaker 1: pass rusher, but he led Alabama and tackles for loss

4692
03:56:19,720 --> 03:56:22,720
Speaker 1: and sacks. You like a lot of what he brings from,

4693
03:56:23,760 --> 03:56:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, a stopping the run play recognition standpoint. But

4694
03:56:28,160 --> 03:56:29,960
Speaker 1: I just don't I think he's a little bit limited

4695
03:56:30,040 --> 03:56:32,200
Speaker 1: if you're expecting him to just rush off the edge.

4696
03:56:32,200 --> 03:56:34,760
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be someone that it's and it's

4697
03:56:34,760 --> 03:56:37,760
Speaker 1: interesting that they drafted him along with Josh Uch kind

4698
03:56:37,800 --> 03:56:42,280
Speaker 1: of similar positions but very different types of players. Uch

4699
03:56:42,480 --> 03:56:44,440
Speaker 1: is going to bring that speed off the edge and

4700
03:56:44,600 --> 03:56:47,760
Speaker 1: you little bit of a liability against the run, where

4701
03:56:47,880 --> 03:56:50,800
Speaker 1: Jennings a little bit the opposite. So if you combine

4702
03:56:50,880 --> 03:56:53,760
Speaker 1: these two players, you might have a really good pass

4703
03:56:53,840 --> 03:56:55,600
Speaker 1: rusher you could stay on the field at all, all

4704
03:56:55,680 --> 03:56:58,240
Speaker 1: three downs. But it's interesting that they would bring both

4705
03:56:58,320 --> 03:57:00,400
Speaker 1: these guys in on day two. Maybe they're gonna do

4706
03:57:00,440 --> 03:57:03,280
Speaker 1: an experiment like that. Why not find a way to

4707
03:57:03,280 --> 03:57:08,080
Speaker 1: combine them. It's like the horse Lake theory. That's easy.

4708
03:57:08,160 --> 03:57:12,360
Speaker 1: That's a day three and three. Yeah, saved that one

4709
03:57:12,440 --> 03:57:16,640
Speaker 1: for late in the day. Yeah. Who who likes Saban?

4710
03:57:16,760 --> 03:57:20,800
Speaker 1: Guys more New England or Baltimore. Oh, I think that

4711
03:57:21,360 --> 03:57:24,440
Speaker 1: and maybe even clude the Vegas Raiders in this too. Yeah.

4712
03:57:24,560 --> 03:57:26,800
Speaker 1: You know, Mike Mayock is always going to He's got

4713
03:57:26,880 --> 03:57:30,120
Speaker 1: a great relationship with three sets of coaches I think

4714
03:57:30,160 --> 03:57:34,000
Speaker 1: at Clemson, Alabama, and Ohio State. So I mean that's

4715
03:57:34,120 --> 03:57:36,480
Speaker 1: kind of Mike mac when he goes to When he

4716
03:57:36,560 --> 03:57:38,440
Speaker 1: used to go to Alabama Pro Day, he was like king,

4717
03:57:38,880 --> 03:57:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, he was like walking around like he was

4718
03:57:40,480 --> 03:57:43,800
Speaker 1: a king. So uh, yeah, I think that. But yeah,

4719
03:57:43,840 --> 03:57:46,880
Speaker 1: there's teams that they all bowed down to. I mean, Saban,

4720
03:57:46,960 --> 03:57:48,760
Speaker 1: he's got all these players, he recruits them, but he

4721
03:57:48,840 --> 03:57:51,640
Speaker 1: just beats them all up, you know. He mean he does,

4722
03:57:51,720 --> 03:57:53,520
Speaker 1: he uses them up. They play a lot, and they

4723
03:57:53,560 --> 03:57:56,800
Speaker 1: play extra games every year. They have hard practices, you know,

4724
03:57:57,040 --> 03:57:59,600
Speaker 1: with him. So yeah, it's it's what you're gonna You're

4725
03:57:59,600 --> 03:58:01,520
Speaker 1: gonna love the players because they play in those games

4726
03:58:01,560 --> 03:58:03,760
Speaker 1: and they're good players, but you get them, they're pretty

4727
03:58:03,760 --> 03:58:05,680
Speaker 1: they're pretty beat up and by the time you get them,

4728
03:58:06,440 --> 03:58:08,720
Speaker 1: and he's the second Alabama player to go off the

4729
03:58:08,800 --> 03:58:11,360
Speaker 1: board in the last four picks, actually splitting that with

4730
03:58:11,560 --> 03:58:14,800
Speaker 1: Utah by the way, in Alabama Edge Rusher and Roll Lewis,

4731
03:58:14,880 --> 03:58:17,760
Speaker 1: and then you've got Julian Blackman from Utah, Zach Moss

4732
03:58:17,800 --> 03:58:20,400
Speaker 1: from Utah, and then Jennings from Alabama. Now with the

4733
03:58:20,520 --> 03:58:22,920
Speaker 1: Saints and Vikings coming up here in the next couple

4734
03:58:22,960 --> 03:58:25,200
Speaker 1: of moments, what's what are the boards kind of starting

4735
03:58:25,200 --> 03:58:28,720
Speaker 1: to look like Dane as we do get into we're

4736
03:58:28,760 --> 03:58:32,200
Speaker 1: getting close to pick ninety here, So I mentioned the

4737
03:58:32,240 --> 03:58:34,280
Speaker 1: compensatory picks coming up here in a little bit. The

4738
03:58:34,320 --> 03:58:37,120
Speaker 1: Patriots had plenty of those, but at least the board

4739
03:58:37,160 --> 03:58:39,280
Speaker 1: for me looks pretty heavy on the defensive line, with

4740
03:58:39,400 --> 03:58:42,400
Speaker 1: still Curtis Weaver and even Jordan Elliott in that mix

4741
03:58:42,480 --> 03:58:45,280
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, the top guy for me is a

4742
03:58:45,400 --> 03:58:49,000
Speaker 1: Keem Davis Gaither talking about defender who can be a playmaker,

4743
03:58:49,840 --> 03:58:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's kind of that Isaiah Simmons light. You know, tall, long, athletic,

4744
03:58:54,800 --> 03:58:56,360
Speaker 1: he can do a lot of different things for you.

4745
03:58:57,360 --> 03:59:00,920
Speaker 1: Surprised he's still around here at this late stage of

4746
03:59:01,000 --> 03:59:03,600
Speaker 1: the third round. Uh. And but I'm with you with

4747
03:59:03,680 --> 03:59:05,960
Speaker 1: Curtis Weaver too. Um. You know, this guy was so

4748
03:59:06,160 --> 03:59:08,360
Speaker 1: productive at Boise State. There's a lot of things that

4749
03:59:08,440 --> 03:59:10,760
Speaker 1: don't like about him. He doesn't have an ideal body,

4750
03:59:11,160 --> 03:59:13,640
Speaker 1: doesn't have uh, you know, necessarily there's a reason he

4751
03:59:13,680 --> 03:59:16,320
Speaker 1: didn't run the forty yard dash at the combine. Um.

4752
03:59:16,480 --> 03:59:19,320
Speaker 1: But the production is undeniable. Now he beat up on

4753
03:59:19,360 --> 03:59:22,040
Speaker 1: some weaker competition. But still the way he can use

4754
03:59:22,120 --> 03:59:25,040
Speaker 1: his hands is something that I think at that position.

4755
03:59:25,480 --> 03:59:27,920
Speaker 1: Surprised that we haven't seen a team take a flyer

4756
03:59:27,960 --> 03:59:32,200
Speaker 1: on him yet. Yeah, I've seen a flyer at all there, Brian. No,

4757
03:59:32,400 --> 03:59:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm with Dane about the player. I'm I just keep

4758
03:59:36,800 --> 03:59:39,880
Speaker 1: looking at that Davis Gaither and yeah, I don't know

4759
03:59:40,720 --> 03:59:42,600
Speaker 1: what it is. But you know, if I'm looking for

4760
03:59:42,800 --> 03:59:45,520
Speaker 1: in the third round, guys that can run, guys that

4761
03:59:45,640 --> 03:59:48,600
Speaker 1: can finish, you know, I mean that he's that. He's

4762
03:59:48,680 --> 03:59:51,120
Speaker 1: that guy. For me. I look at him and I

4763
03:59:51,240 --> 03:59:54,320
Speaker 1: just I'm like, Okay, somebody's gonna take this guy. You know,

4764
03:59:54,440 --> 03:59:56,440
Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping that the Cowboys were gonna

4765
03:59:56,440 --> 03:59:58,480
Speaker 1: look at him, you know, I mean I had him

4766
03:59:58,520 --> 04:00:00,520
Speaker 1: in that round with with Gallum More and all that.

4767
04:00:00,880 --> 04:00:02,760
Speaker 1: We need to figure out what the deal with Burgess too.

4768
04:00:02,840 --> 04:00:05,120
Speaker 1: By the way, guys, you know that keeps falling. Yeah,

4769
04:00:05,160 --> 04:00:07,040
Speaker 1: that's a that's a phone call for Brian brought us

4770
04:00:07,080 --> 04:00:08,880
Speaker 1: on the way home, you know, And I know Dane

4771
04:00:08,920 --> 04:00:11,000
Speaker 1: can do the same thing, you know, but we can.

4772
04:00:11,080 --> 04:00:13,520
Speaker 1: You know, you just wonder a few of those phone

4773
04:00:13,560 --> 04:00:15,720
Speaker 1: calls from Brian brought us. Yeah, no, but you but

4774
04:00:15,880 --> 04:00:18,360
Speaker 1: you you gotta, you gotta figure out. Okay, why is

4775
04:00:18,400 --> 04:00:21,400
Speaker 1: this guy? He was clearly if you look at the tape,

4776
04:00:21,680 --> 04:00:24,160
Speaker 1: his ability to do a lot of different things to

4777
04:00:24,400 --> 04:00:26,720
Speaker 1: cover to play in the slot. I mean, he had

4778
04:00:26,760 --> 04:00:28,680
Speaker 1: to find him out there, but he made He's a

4779
04:00:28,760 --> 04:00:31,720
Speaker 1: productive player. I just don't understand why. You know, maybe

4780
04:00:31,800 --> 04:00:35,160
Speaker 1: teams are just kind of shying away from guys like this. Now,

4781
04:00:35,200 --> 04:00:36,640
Speaker 1: I do want to make a correction. I said that

4782
04:00:36,720 --> 04:00:39,760
Speaker 1: the Saints were on the clocks that Cleveland Browns. Yeah, Cleveland.

4783
04:00:39,840 --> 04:00:44,440
Speaker 1: This is a direct deal from whether they had earlier

4784
04:00:44,480 --> 04:00:46,720
Speaker 1: in the second round, whenever they swapped picks there, So

4785
04:00:47,120 --> 04:00:49,120
Speaker 1: the Browns are actually on the clock because we see

4786
04:00:49,160 --> 04:00:52,360
Speaker 1: maybe a corner here potentially go in the next couple

4787
04:00:52,400 --> 04:00:54,960
Speaker 1: of moments, because I know they still need cornerback help.

4788
04:00:55,480 --> 04:00:58,760
Speaker 1: Uh maybe uh, I don't know, maybe defensive line here.

4789
04:00:59,400 --> 04:01:03,120
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, defensive tackle. They need defensive end definitely. So

4790
04:01:03,720 --> 04:01:06,240
Speaker 1: and that we always have, you know, with a new

4791
04:01:06,400 --> 04:01:09,120
Speaker 1: front office, a new head coach, you have a group

4792
04:01:09,200 --> 04:01:11,800
Speaker 1: of guys that want their guys, and so I really

4793
04:01:11,840 --> 04:01:15,320
Speaker 1: don't think, you know, besides quarterback and running back, I

4794
04:01:15,480 --> 04:01:19,080
Speaker 1: think every other position's pretty much in play at this point. Yeah,

4795
04:01:19,160 --> 04:01:21,600
Speaker 1: that's true. It's much like the Dolphins, where I don't

4796
04:01:21,600 --> 04:01:23,640
Speaker 1: think they're in as bad of a spot as the Dolphins.

4797
04:01:23,720 --> 04:01:26,560
Speaker 1: But they've already taken an offensive tackle in Jedrick Will's

4798
04:01:26,600 --> 04:01:30,600
Speaker 1: Grant Delpit went in the second round at pick forty four,

4799
04:01:30,760 --> 04:01:33,920
Speaker 1: and now they're picking here in the third, so they've

4800
04:01:33,960 --> 04:01:35,760
Speaker 1: had a little bit of time to wait here for

4801
04:01:35,840 --> 04:01:38,280
Speaker 1: this pick. But they could really address a couple of

4802
04:01:38,400 --> 04:01:40,560
Speaker 1: issues where when it comes to the defense, and then

4803
04:01:40,600 --> 04:01:43,000
Speaker 1: also maybe adding a wide receiver if you really wanted to,

4804
04:01:43,480 --> 04:01:46,560
Speaker 1: depending on what the what the deal is with Odell

4805
04:01:46,600 --> 04:01:49,120
Speaker 1: Beckham junior. Yeah, as we wait for this pick, guys,

4806
04:01:49,200 --> 04:01:52,040
Speaker 1: when does that run for the tight ends going to start? Yeah,

4807
04:01:52,160 --> 04:01:53,920
Speaker 1: I got I've got all these tight ends kind of

4808
04:01:54,000 --> 04:01:57,920
Speaker 1: lumped together. And I know with ASSISI I mentioned him. Okay,

4809
04:01:58,040 --> 04:02:01,560
Speaker 1: Troutman is a Dane guy, the law firm of Brian

4810
04:02:01,640 --> 04:02:05,360
Speaker 1: and Bryant. You know, Albert Oh from Missouri. I mean

4811
04:02:05,600 --> 04:02:09,640
Speaker 1: is Pinkney when we got the commissioner's got to pick

4812
04:02:09,720 --> 04:02:11,160
Speaker 1: in right now, let's see we can get in here,

4813
04:02:12,880 --> 04:02:15,680
Speaker 1: and we encourage you to keep them coming. We've made

4814
04:02:15,720 --> 04:02:19,240
Speaker 1: a difference and well we've raised millions of dollars already

4815
04:02:19,280 --> 04:02:22,320
Speaker 1: and we hope to do more. And remember, the NFL

4816
04:02:22,480 --> 04:02:25,040
Speaker 1: is matching all of your donations, so we hope you'll

4817
04:02:25,120 --> 04:02:30,360
Speaker 1: keep it coming. Tonight, with the eighty eighth pick in

4818
04:02:30,480 --> 04:02:35,360
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Jordan Elliott,

4819
04:02:36,080 --> 04:02:39,360
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Yeah, Missouri, that's a good pick. That's a

4820
04:02:39,440 --> 04:02:43,280
Speaker 1: good pick. That Yeah, as long as you are comfortable

4821
04:02:43,360 --> 04:02:46,480
Speaker 1: with the character, you're comfortable with the person. Uh yeah,

4822
04:02:46,600 --> 04:02:49,240
Speaker 1: you definitely liked the player. At this point in the draft,

4823
04:02:49,840 --> 04:02:53,080
Speaker 1: a guy who started at Texas transferred Missouri. And I

4824
04:02:53,200 --> 04:02:54,720
Speaker 1: tell you there are times on his tape where you

4825
04:02:54,800 --> 04:02:57,000
Speaker 1: see a first round player. You see a guy that

4826
04:02:57,080 --> 04:03:00,680
Speaker 1: can dominate the point of attack. He can slip through gas. Uh.

4827
04:03:01,040 --> 04:03:03,440
Speaker 1: There's a lot to like about Jordan Elliott as a

4828
04:03:03,680 --> 04:03:05,600
Speaker 1: as an ascending player, a guy who's getting better and

4829
04:03:05,680 --> 04:03:08,080
Speaker 1: better and still very young. So that was the thing

4830
04:03:08,120 --> 04:03:10,840
Speaker 1: with him. He plays young, he acts young, but the

4831
04:03:11,000 --> 04:03:13,440
Speaker 1: talent is not a question with this player. Yeah. See,

4832
04:03:13,480 --> 04:03:15,560
Speaker 1: this is where I would have taken him over Gallimore.

4833
04:03:17,680 --> 04:03:19,360
Speaker 1: This is where you know, you know me, I'm the

4834
04:03:19,400 --> 04:03:22,360
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals of our staff. Yep, and I really don't

4835
04:03:22,400 --> 04:03:25,280
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, everything Dane said is absolutely right

4836
04:03:25,320 --> 04:03:28,040
Speaker 1: about maturity and things like that. The tape is too

4837
04:03:28,120 --> 04:03:30,320
Speaker 1: good for me. I'm in the third round here, I'm

4838
04:03:30,360 --> 04:03:33,880
Speaker 1: the big, massive tackle that gets up the field, stops people.

4839
04:03:33,920 --> 04:03:41,600
Speaker 1: It's hard to move. Yeah, no, no, no, Brian's contradicting

4840
04:03:41,640 --> 04:03:43,560
Speaker 1: himself and I'm here to hold him to task. That's

4841
04:03:43,600 --> 04:03:47,680
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do because I love Jordan Elli. I

4842
04:03:47,760 --> 04:03:51,560
Speaker 1: loved his tape like I really early and I was like, yeah,

4843
04:03:51,640 --> 04:03:54,160
Speaker 1: this guy's getting in the backfield every other snap from

4844
04:03:54,200 --> 04:03:56,560
Speaker 1: like five different positions. He's a ton of fun. But

4845
04:03:57,240 --> 04:04:00,000
Speaker 1: Brian brought us will tell you that the criminal run

4846
04:04:00,040 --> 04:04:07,400
Speaker 1: round is the fourth round. Appreciate. I mean, he might

4847
04:04:07,480 --> 04:04:09,600
Speaker 1: not be a criminal, but if there are character and

4848
04:04:09,800 --> 04:04:13,280
Speaker 1: non tape concerns about a guy, yeah, then eighty two

4849
04:04:13,480 --> 04:04:16,080
Speaker 1: is too high for me to take that. But Brian

4850
04:04:16,120 --> 04:04:19,720
Speaker 1: bringing that name, bringing this name up after the Cowboys

4851
04:04:19,760 --> 04:04:23,080
Speaker 1: have taken Gallmore makes me look back at my board

4852
04:04:23,080 --> 04:04:24,320
Speaker 1: and be like, oh wow, I don't think I even

4853
04:04:24,360 --> 04:04:26,120
Speaker 1: mentioned him when Gallamore was taken as one of the

4854
04:04:26,160 --> 04:04:27,400
Speaker 1: guys I had ahead of him, and I had him

4855
04:04:27,440 --> 04:04:28,880
Speaker 1: a full round ahead of him, So I gotta be

4856
04:04:28,920 --> 04:04:32,200
Speaker 1: honest about that. Vic. Who's gonna pick right now? King

4857
04:04:32,280 --> 04:04:39,320
Speaker 1: sle Cameron Danceler defensive back? The good pick there, Mike Ziver.

4858
04:04:39,760 --> 04:04:42,520
Speaker 1: Solid corner that they've they've selected because they took Jeff

4859
04:04:42,560 --> 04:04:45,600
Speaker 1: Gladney with thirty one, so they're double dipping in corner already.

4860
04:04:45,760 --> 04:04:50,040
Speaker 1: I like the need they need corner? Oh they cos

4861
04:04:51,080 --> 04:04:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to point fingers in anybody here. I'm not,

4862
04:04:55,120 --> 04:04:57,320
Speaker 1: And because I just feel like there's a lot of

4863
04:04:57,400 --> 04:05:01,400
Speaker 1: people that carried this guy down the board because of

4864
04:05:02,440 --> 04:05:06,640
Speaker 1: of the of the forty and I guarantee something happened

4865
04:05:06,640 --> 04:05:08,560
Speaker 1: to him at the combine where he didn't have a

4866
04:05:08,640 --> 04:05:10,760
Speaker 1: good day, and I could have gone to Missisippi State.

4867
04:05:10,800 --> 04:05:12,280
Speaker 1: I said it a bunch. I could have gotten faster,

4868
04:05:12,400 --> 04:05:14,200
Speaker 1: not at thirty eight yards, and I wouldn't have got

4869
04:05:14,320 --> 04:05:16,080
Speaker 1: him at four three. I would have got him at

4870
04:05:16,120 --> 04:05:18,560
Speaker 1: four or five, two or something like that, maybe or

4871
04:05:18,600 --> 04:05:21,040
Speaker 1: four or five. But I don't think he plays like

4872
04:05:21,120 --> 04:05:23,400
Speaker 1: a four to six guy. I'm just watching him play

4873
04:05:23,400 --> 04:05:26,840
Speaker 1: against a quality competition weekend week out in the SEC,

4874
04:05:27,080 --> 04:05:30,800
Speaker 1: and the guy covers, the guy has ability to make plays, intercepts,

4875
04:05:30,880 --> 04:05:33,520
Speaker 1: creates turnovers, things like that. I hope he has a

4876
04:05:33,600 --> 04:05:35,760
Speaker 1: really nice career. He went to the perfect coach, by

4877
04:05:35,840 --> 04:05:38,800
Speaker 1: the way, Mike Zimmer. Mike Zimmer will, Mike Zimmer will

4878
04:05:38,880 --> 04:05:42,200
Speaker 1: get him to play to his best level. If he's

4879
04:05:42,200 --> 04:05:44,600
Speaker 1: a four or five guy, he'll outplay this draft slot

4880
04:05:44,680 --> 04:05:49,200
Speaker 1: for sure. He will. This is this is this he will,

4881
04:05:49,320 --> 04:05:52,920
Speaker 1: He's he's on tape. He is better than that draft slot.

4882
04:05:53,200 --> 04:05:55,720
Speaker 1: But I like, I just can't take this place where

4883
04:05:55,720 --> 04:05:59,320
Speaker 1: everything's even and I can trust the times and throw

4884
04:05:59,400 --> 04:06:01,720
Speaker 1: out one it says it's going to be really tough

4885
04:06:01,800 --> 04:06:04,240
Speaker 1: for him to be a good NFL player. Can't do it.

4886
04:06:05,080 --> 04:06:06,560
Speaker 1: I just I mean they picked him in the round

4887
04:06:06,600 --> 04:06:08,680
Speaker 1: where I have him, got him in the third round. Yeah,

4888
04:06:08,800 --> 04:06:11,560
Speaker 1: that the tape is just too good for me and

4889
04:06:11,680 --> 04:06:14,040
Speaker 1: I again, Mike Zimmer will figure out a way to

4890
04:06:14,840 --> 04:06:17,600
Speaker 1: use him and and use him the right way. This

4891
04:06:17,760 --> 04:06:19,720
Speaker 1: is much, this is this is getting. This could be

4892
04:06:19,800 --> 04:06:22,520
Speaker 1: the Richard Sherman. This could be a Richard Sherman Sherman

4893
04:06:22,880 --> 04:06:25,600
Speaker 1: four five. Yeah, well this guy ran four six yep,

4894
04:06:25,720 --> 04:06:27,000
Speaker 1: and he could and I could have got him in

4895
04:06:27,040 --> 04:06:30,560
Speaker 1: four five. My biggest issue with with Danceler wasn't necessarily

4896
04:06:30,600 --> 04:06:32,880
Speaker 1: his speed. It was just his ability to turn and

4897
04:06:32,920 --> 04:06:35,240
Speaker 1: find the football that I thought that was something that

4898
04:06:35,400 --> 04:06:38,560
Speaker 1: he did and inconsistently, and when he did he would

4899
04:06:38,560 --> 04:06:42,200
Speaker 1: make contact. And uh, it's it's a player who was

4900
04:06:42,240 --> 04:06:44,440
Speaker 1: a quarterback in high school. He didn't really play corner

4901
04:06:44,720 --> 04:06:48,640
Speaker 1: until he got to Mississippi Mississippi State, and so he's

4902
04:06:48,680 --> 04:06:51,240
Speaker 1: still learning. But I think he has upside because he's

4903
04:06:51,240 --> 04:06:54,600
Speaker 1: a good athlete. Uh he's tall, little leaner than you want.

4904
04:06:54,640 --> 04:06:57,400
Speaker 1: You worry about the body armor holding up and run support.

4905
04:06:57,560 --> 04:07:01,440
Speaker 1: But I thought he was a better, better play than here.

4906
04:07:01,800 --> 04:07:05,560
Speaker 1: Around the ninetieth pick, it's Jonathan Greenard at ninety to

4907
04:07:05,680 --> 04:07:08,840
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. The Florida pass rusher. That is who

4908
04:07:08,840 --> 04:07:14,360
Speaker 1: you've got going there at number ninety, that's the Houston Texans, right, Yes, Okay,

4909
04:07:14,680 --> 04:07:17,400
Speaker 1: to finish off and pick and they're both defensive tackles

4910
04:07:17,720 --> 04:07:20,600
Speaker 1: excuse me, defensive lineman. I mean the gs with the

4911
04:07:20,640 --> 04:07:22,560
Speaker 1: amount of trades they've been making. Yeah, they just don't

4912
04:07:22,560 --> 04:07:25,800
Speaker 1: have that many picks. No, but I just I mean

4913
04:07:25,880 --> 04:07:27,920
Speaker 1: to finish off the thought we were having about Elliott

4914
04:07:27,960 --> 04:07:31,600
Speaker 1: and Gallimore. And you know, it's it's difficult and tricky

4915
04:07:31,720 --> 04:07:34,000
Speaker 1: talking about off the field stuff because you don't know

4916
04:07:34,120 --> 04:07:36,920
Speaker 1: the full picture unless you're really part of this process. Sure,

4917
04:07:37,640 --> 04:07:41,240
Speaker 1: I can't fault the Cowboys for taking the surer guy.

4918
04:07:41,360 --> 04:07:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if they don't, you know, if you don't

4919
04:07:42,880 --> 04:07:45,680
Speaker 1: feel good about Elliott off the field, eighty two is

4920
04:07:45,720 --> 04:07:47,680
Speaker 1: still too high for me. I mean, if you're talking

4921
04:07:47,800 --> 04:07:50,320
Speaker 1: day three, it makes a lot more sense. But I'm

4922
04:07:50,360 --> 04:07:52,600
Speaker 1: not going to ding them for taking the guy that

4923
04:07:52,640 --> 04:07:55,920
Speaker 1: they feel more comfortable with, which makes a lot of sense.

4924
04:07:56,000 --> 04:07:59,480
Speaker 1: I think overall, Well, I mean, I I don't know.

4925
04:07:59,560 --> 04:08:03,760
Speaker 1: I just that's fair. I thought their tape was around difference.

4926
04:08:04,000 --> 04:08:07,000
Speaker 1: I thought I thought Elliot's tape was considerably better. But

4927
04:08:07,080 --> 04:08:08,840
Speaker 1: I will say, but you're right about what you're saying.

4928
04:08:08,840 --> 04:08:10,760
Speaker 1: I don't there's things that I don't know about them.

4929
04:08:10,800 --> 04:08:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what people mean when they say off

4930
04:08:12,600 --> 04:08:15,200
Speaker 1: the field, and unless there's something documented on it, I

4931
04:08:15,240 --> 04:08:17,040
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. So if you want to

4932
04:08:17,080 --> 04:08:19,560
Speaker 1: give me an effort player, I'll take I'll take the

4933
04:08:19,680 --> 04:08:22,480
Speaker 1: Lynch kid from Baylor. You know. If you want to

4934
04:08:22,480 --> 04:08:24,440
Speaker 1: give me a guy that could play in play tackle,

4935
04:08:24,640 --> 04:08:27,360
Speaker 1: I'll take that guy. You know, But I mean Gallimore,

4936
04:08:27,440 --> 04:08:29,200
Speaker 1: that's fine. I mean where they I had him on

4937
04:08:29,280 --> 04:08:32,320
Speaker 1: that spot. I just thought that Elliott was a better player.

4938
04:08:32,640 --> 04:08:34,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if you said, put all those guys together,

4939
04:08:34,800 --> 04:08:38,880
Speaker 1: who do you have Elliott Gallimore, say Lynch in that round?

4940
04:08:39,560 --> 04:08:42,960
Speaker 1: I would have it Elliott Gallimore Lynch. I mean, like

4941
04:08:43,000 --> 04:08:45,120
Speaker 1: I say, I'm kind of looking at it as like

4942
04:08:45,320 --> 04:08:48,000
Speaker 1: that Gallimore Lynch. It really was a toss up for me.

4943
04:08:49,080 --> 04:08:52,040
Speaker 1: On the Raiders, did you a favor before year pick

4944
04:08:52,120 --> 04:08:54,440
Speaker 1: at eighty two with back to back wide receivers. They're

4945
04:08:54,520 --> 04:08:56,560
Speaker 1: up again for the fifth time today. Do you think

4946
04:08:57,120 --> 04:08:59,080
Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna take another wide receiver? Here? Guys,

4947
04:08:59,240 --> 04:09:02,600
Speaker 1: the fourth of the draft. Oh, Green can't help him? Yeah,

4948
04:09:02,640 --> 04:09:05,760
Speaker 1: Green can't help himself. They're all there. I mean they're

4949
04:09:05,760 --> 04:09:08,400
Speaker 1: a great wide receiver class and deep one at that. Well,

4950
04:09:08,440 --> 04:09:10,400
Speaker 1: they got the this was like a New England pick,

4951
04:09:10,560 --> 04:09:13,880
Speaker 1: so maybe this was a pick. Yeah, yeah, New England

4952
04:09:13,960 --> 04:09:16,760
Speaker 1: traded in. Sorry I did I should have yelled that out.

4953
04:09:16,800 --> 04:09:20,720
Speaker 1: They traded up to ninety one. It's like, ah, Devin Asias.

4954
04:09:21,720 --> 04:09:25,000
Speaker 1: How about that the Raiders took Devin asi Assi, the

4955
04:09:25,080 --> 04:09:27,640
Speaker 1: tight end out of UCLA. It means the Cowboys cannot

4956
04:09:27,680 --> 04:09:29,320
Speaker 1: take him in the fourth round if I've got the

4957
04:09:29,400 --> 04:09:32,840
Speaker 1: rules of the draft right, correct, that's correct, Jeffrey. Yes,

4958
04:09:33,800 --> 04:09:37,880
Speaker 1: that's a fake, that's a fake. Pro Yeah they did, Okay,

4959
04:09:38,320 --> 04:09:42,480
Speaker 1: I mean the Patriots they oh, okay that Assisi was

4960
04:09:42,520 --> 04:09:45,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots pick. Okay, ye. The thing. Yeah, that's a

4961
04:09:45,080 --> 04:09:47,200
Speaker 1: team that needed a lot of tight end help, and

4962
04:09:47,280 --> 04:09:49,680
Speaker 1: I think Assisi is a fun prospect. I think this

4963
04:09:49,800 --> 04:09:52,840
Speaker 1: is where he belongs. I think that that's that's good.

4964
04:09:52,920 --> 04:09:55,920
Speaker 1: That's a team that needed one and they probably found

4965
04:09:55,920 --> 04:09:58,600
Speaker 1: a future starter here in the end of the third round. Dan,

4966
04:09:58,720 --> 04:10:02,760
Speaker 1: did you did you hear it all about football character

4967
04:10:02,880 --> 04:10:06,160
Speaker 1: concerns like how hard he would work, how hard he

4968
04:10:06,200 --> 04:10:08,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't work that kind of Did you hear anything about

4969
04:10:08,680 --> 04:10:11,840
Speaker 1: this player that way? There were there were talks about that,

4970
04:10:12,200 --> 04:10:15,240
Speaker 1: about him reaching his full potential, and you know he

4971
04:10:15,360 --> 04:10:18,560
Speaker 1: was suspended at one point, and uh, you know the

4972
04:10:19,320 --> 04:10:22,920
Speaker 1: he liked to enjoy the college experience, that type of thing. Um,

4973
04:10:23,080 --> 04:10:25,240
Speaker 1: so you do worry about that a lot. He was

4974
04:10:25,280 --> 04:10:27,720
Speaker 1: a California kid and how he's going all the way

4975
04:10:27,720 --> 04:10:30,240
Speaker 1: out to New England. How's that going to play? But

4976
04:10:30,600 --> 04:10:33,720
Speaker 1: second tight end off the board, right, Yeah, commit was

4977
04:10:33,760 --> 04:10:35,800
Speaker 1: the first one. Yeah, a little surprising to see. I

4978
04:10:35,840 --> 04:10:38,120
Speaker 1: mean I thought ASSISI was a top five tight end

4979
04:10:38,160 --> 04:10:40,840
Speaker 1: in this draft. I don't necessarily think I would have

4980
04:10:40,880 --> 04:10:44,360
Speaker 1: guessed he would have been the second tight end drafted. Yeah,

4981
04:10:45,040 --> 04:10:49,640
Speaker 1: he was tight ends though. Oh I'll tell you what though,

4982
04:10:49,680 --> 04:10:52,280
Speaker 1: I know the Cowboys did a ton of work on him,

4983
04:10:52,680 --> 04:10:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it was a guy the video

4984
04:10:54,520 --> 04:10:57,280
Speaker 1: conferencing maybe a thirty visit thing. If if that did that,

4985
04:10:57,400 --> 04:10:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lot of there were people

4986
04:10:59,280 --> 04:11:03,000
Speaker 1: talking about this guy. Him and and Terrell. Those guys were,

4987
04:11:03,160 --> 04:11:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, where the guys that did a lot a

4988
04:11:04,760 --> 04:11:06,520
Speaker 1: lot of work. Chase On was another one of those

4989
04:11:06,600 --> 04:11:08,760
Speaker 1: guys that did, they did a lot of work on

4990
04:11:08,920 --> 04:11:11,800
Speaker 1: and so you know, I knew the Cowboys maybe would

4991
04:11:11,800 --> 04:11:14,040
Speaker 1: would conserve. I was asking you, guys, there is this

4992
04:11:14,160 --> 04:11:16,360
Speaker 1: the run for the tight ends? Now? Is this you know,

4993
04:11:16,520 --> 04:11:18,120
Speaker 1: are people gonna say, Okay, we gotta go ahead and

4994
04:11:18,200 --> 04:11:20,640
Speaker 1: start grabbing him now, or is it this thing gonna

4995
04:11:20,640 --> 04:11:24,000
Speaker 1: stretch a little bit further down the board? I could

4996
04:11:24,040 --> 04:11:27,040
Speaker 1: see this being a tight end run here late in

4997
04:11:27,080 --> 04:11:29,840
Speaker 1: the third. Let's go down the list of teams that

4998
04:11:29,880 --> 04:11:35,000
Speaker 1: could use a tight end. Titans, yeah, I think they could. Packers,

4999
04:11:35,120 --> 04:11:39,160
Speaker 1: Packers absolutely, yeah, Broncos, Chiefs don't need a tight end.

5000
04:11:39,760 --> 04:11:42,760
Speaker 1: The Browns, yeah. See that's what I'm saying. I just

5001
04:11:43,440 --> 04:11:45,600
Speaker 1: these guys. It's the one part of my board I'm

5002
04:11:45,640 --> 04:11:48,080
Speaker 1: looking at. I've got everything kind of color coded. It's

5003
04:11:48,120 --> 04:11:50,440
Speaker 1: the one position where I have those guys like Bill

5004
04:11:50,480 --> 04:11:53,240
Speaker 1: pars Hills used to say, snacked in there like club sandwiches,

5005
04:11:53,720 --> 04:11:56,240
Speaker 1: you know, And so I'm just thinking, Okay, at some

5006
04:11:56,360 --> 04:11:58,240
Speaker 1: point somebody is going to go out. But I've got

5007
04:11:58,280 --> 04:12:02,640
Speaker 1: some cornerbacks too, Holmes kid from UCLA, I got Robertson

5008
04:12:02,720 --> 04:12:06,160
Speaker 1: from Louisiana Tech. But those are those are two small guys. Yeah,

5009
04:12:06,200 --> 04:12:08,520
Speaker 1: those are two like tiny guys, you know, eat peanuts

5010
04:12:08,600 --> 04:12:11,360
Speaker 1: off the top of their heads kind of thing. Yeah,

5011
04:12:12,000 --> 04:12:14,080
Speaker 1: you're the I mean you're my Cleveland Browns guy. I

5012
04:12:14,200 --> 04:12:16,920
Speaker 1: just I just look at you as an extension of

5013
04:12:17,000 --> 04:12:20,840
Speaker 1: the Browns front office. Naturally. Um, what what do you

5014
04:12:20,920 --> 04:12:23,640
Speaker 1: what can I want? What do you want for David

5015
04:12:23,680 --> 04:12:28,680
Speaker 1: and jokut Um? I'm trying to get rid of them,

5016
04:12:28,760 --> 04:12:30,640
Speaker 1: so I know you are what do you take much?

5017
04:12:30,920 --> 04:12:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean, can I offer you looking for a soft

5018
04:12:33,720 --> 04:12:37,280
Speaker 1: tight end you can't catch? Oh? Wow wow wow wow

5019
04:12:37,320 --> 04:12:41,520
Speaker 1: wow wow? Uh second five? If I can get your third.

5020
04:12:41,680 --> 04:12:43,400
Speaker 1: But now that I told you how I really feel

5021
04:12:43,440 --> 04:12:46,000
Speaker 1: about him, you cannot have my You can't have my

5022
04:12:46,080 --> 04:12:49,480
Speaker 1: third because his name is going back and forth. Well,

5023
04:12:50,320 --> 04:12:52,280
Speaker 1: I mean, can I can I pry him away from you?

5024
04:12:52,360 --> 04:12:56,040
Speaker 1: For pick one sixty four? I think if no? I mean,

5025
04:12:56,080 --> 04:12:57,760
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty late. I got to be able to

5026
04:12:57,800 --> 04:13:00,720
Speaker 1: get a better offer than that. I'm not giving. Kay,

5027
04:13:00,920 --> 04:13:04,000
Speaker 1: Or do you try to? I mean this, how about Tampa?

5028
04:13:04,080 --> 04:13:05,920
Speaker 1: Do you go to Tampa and try and get oj Howard?

5029
04:13:06,200 --> 04:13:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean, are they are? They? Are? They caught in? Okay,

5030
04:13:08,800 --> 04:13:10,440
Speaker 1: we had to have a second round you guys not

5031
04:13:10,560 --> 04:13:12,960
Speaker 1: letting my god drow and get a shine on. No,

5032
04:13:13,040 --> 04:13:15,320
Speaker 1: I just got paid. If we're talking, if we're talking

5033
04:13:15,360 --> 04:13:18,880
Speaker 1: about tight end, he's got two backups. Okay, So I actually, hey,

5034
04:13:19,080 --> 04:13:21,720
Speaker 1: Jeff said a tight end. For the record, if I'm

5035
04:13:21,880 --> 04:13:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm honestly relieved that Assiassi's gone because I don't want

5036
04:13:25,040 --> 04:13:28,200
Speaker 1: them to draft a tight end. They have Lake Darwin, right, Dave,

5037
04:13:28,280 --> 04:13:30,000
Speaker 1: So you heard the same thing then that they really

5038
04:13:30,080 --> 04:13:32,400
Speaker 1: liked ASSISI then, oh, yeah, no, he, I mean he's

5039
04:13:32,560 --> 04:13:35,240
Speaker 1: he is one of those names that's been circulating around.

5040
04:13:35,280 --> 04:13:36,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if he would have been the pick

5041
04:13:36,560 --> 04:13:38,840
Speaker 1: at one twenty three, but I think they really liked him.

5042
04:13:39,600 --> 04:13:42,800
Speaker 1: Um so, and I don't think they need a tight end.

5043
04:13:42,920 --> 04:13:45,680
Speaker 1: My whole point was I would rather try to get

5044
04:13:45,880 --> 04:13:48,160
Speaker 1: in Joku out of Cleveland than draft one of these

5045
04:13:48,200 --> 04:13:50,520
Speaker 1: tight ends because I just I don't feel great about

5046
04:13:50,560 --> 04:13:52,600
Speaker 1: this tight end class. I don't think it's that impressive.

5047
04:13:52,840 --> 04:13:55,480
Speaker 1: I still think I picks hang on, boys picks it. Okay,

5048
04:13:55,520 --> 04:13:59,000
Speaker 1: With the ninety second pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft,

5049
04:13:59,600 --> 04:14:05,120
Speaker 1: the ball more ravens like Devin DuVernay, wide receiver Texas,

5050
04:14:06,200 --> 04:14:07,840
Speaker 1: I thought they would maybe go with like a John

5051
04:14:07,920 --> 04:14:13,680
Speaker 1: high Tower or somebody like that first before DuVernay popped up. Yeah,

5052
04:14:13,680 --> 04:14:15,920
Speaker 1: I like that a lot, though, Lamar, listen, you've got

5053
04:14:16,000 --> 04:14:18,000
Speaker 1: two choices. You can throw it to him behind the

5054
04:14:18,040 --> 04:14:20,040
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and watch him work, or you can

5055
04:14:20,080 --> 04:14:22,000
Speaker 1: throw it to him way down there and watch him run.

5056
04:14:22,640 --> 04:14:25,080
Speaker 1: Because to me, that's what DuVernay kind of is. He's

5057
04:14:25,080 --> 04:14:27,880
Speaker 1: a deep threat. He's good in the screen game because

5058
04:14:27,880 --> 04:14:31,480
Speaker 1: he can break tackles, but I don't trust him as

5059
04:14:31,480 --> 04:14:35,120
Speaker 1: a route runner. Nope, let's let's run and let's do

5060
04:14:35,200 --> 04:14:37,600
Speaker 1: the opposite of running and step backwards and catch the ball.

5061
04:14:38,200 --> 04:14:41,560
Speaker 1: Maybe jet sweep it. Let Lamar just keep running the ball,

5062
04:14:41,640 --> 04:14:43,320
Speaker 1: keep running the ball. Give him an extra guy that

5063
04:14:43,400 --> 04:14:45,840
Speaker 1: can really run along with Hollywood Brown. You're throwing to

5064
04:14:45,960 --> 04:14:50,120
Speaker 1: these tight ends. I really like that fit. Dane. How

5065
04:14:50,240 --> 04:14:53,760
Speaker 1: is he as a blocker? I don't know if he's

5066
04:14:53,920 --> 04:14:56,240
Speaker 1: asked to do it that much, at least if he

5067
04:14:56,360 --> 04:14:58,440
Speaker 1: did on tape, I didn't see it a lot. But

5068
04:14:58,880 --> 04:15:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he's basically an engineer the run game. That's

5069
04:15:01,240 --> 04:15:03,280
Speaker 1: what he was at Texas, and he could track the

5070
04:15:03,400 --> 04:15:05,520
Speaker 1: deep ball. But yeah, he used to get the ball

5071
04:15:05,560 --> 04:15:07,440
Speaker 1: in his hands and he has the size of a

5072
04:15:07,560 --> 04:15:10,160
Speaker 1: running back and so he'd break tackles. Grant Delpa to

5073
04:15:10,240 --> 04:15:14,760
Speaker 1: tell you that. I mean he's a fourth three athlete,

5074
04:15:14,880 --> 04:15:17,000
Speaker 1: and you know it's like, do you look at the

5075
04:15:17,120 --> 04:15:19,560
Speaker 1: Ravens building a little bit of a track team there

5076
04:15:19,600 --> 04:15:22,440
Speaker 1: on offense with Hollywood Brown. Miles Boykin was a four

5077
04:15:22,840 --> 04:15:25,880
Speaker 1: three athlete last year, So they've got speed, speed to

5078
04:15:25,920 --> 04:15:30,040
Speaker 1: burn and JK. Dobbins in this draft that that offense

5079
04:15:30,280 --> 04:15:34,000
Speaker 1: is not fun to go against. I think it's a

5080
04:15:34,080 --> 04:15:36,160
Speaker 1: great pick by these guys. I told you I had

5081
04:15:36,200 --> 04:15:40,720
Speaker 1: those pocket of those receivers, those like the Porches, the Duvenais,

5082
04:15:40,840 --> 04:15:43,520
Speaker 1: the Van Jefferson's, kJ Hill. I mean, these are all

5083
04:15:43,600 --> 04:15:46,120
Speaker 1: guys that can really catch the ball, you know. I

5084
04:15:46,200 --> 04:15:49,080
Speaker 1: mean you just throw it in their direction, they find

5085
04:15:49,120 --> 04:15:51,440
Speaker 1: a way to make the play and then after the catch,

5086
04:15:52,160 --> 04:15:54,600
Speaker 1: they've got that kind of ability to finish. So I

5087
04:15:55,040 --> 04:15:58,520
Speaker 1: think the raven the Ravens just continually do things that

5088
04:15:58,720 --> 04:16:00,640
Speaker 1: you're like, you're you're looking at me, You're going, okay.

5089
04:16:01,240 --> 04:16:04,320
Speaker 1: They for years, they've gotten Ozzie, they've made the transition

5090
04:16:04,360 --> 04:16:07,440
Speaker 1: to Eric to Costa. I give them a high march

5091
04:16:07,520 --> 04:16:10,520
Speaker 1: for what they've been able to do. I like this

5092
04:16:10,640 --> 04:16:12,800
Speaker 1: pick overall. I really do you add another receiver? We

5093
04:16:12,880 --> 04:16:17,000
Speaker 1: kind of talked about maybe a Denzel Mims earlier for Baltimore,

5094
04:16:17,080 --> 04:16:19,520
Speaker 1: but honestly, I think du Rene might be a better

5095
04:16:19,560 --> 04:16:21,560
Speaker 1: fit than Mims in that offense anyway. So now we've

5096
04:16:21,600 --> 04:16:24,200
Speaker 1: got the Titans up ninety three, ninety four, ninety five

5097
04:16:24,280 --> 04:16:27,200
Speaker 1: Titans packers Broncos. Here what are we looking at for

5098
04:16:27,280 --> 04:16:29,640
Speaker 1: the Titans? I mean, they took Isaiah Wilson offensive tackle

5099
04:16:29,680 --> 04:16:33,680
Speaker 1: in the first Christian Fulton in that second round? Where

5100
04:16:33,680 --> 04:16:36,120
Speaker 1: are we going from here? If you're looking at an

5101
04:16:36,160 --> 04:16:40,320
Speaker 1: AFC Championship Titans team that has done a nice job

5102
04:16:40,360 --> 04:16:45,640
Speaker 1: of adding some talent here, Yeah, I'm trying. Yeah, i'd

5103
04:16:46,080 --> 04:16:49,840
Speaker 1: Curtis Weaver. Um, we have a bullet who's off the

5104
04:16:49,880 --> 04:16:52,680
Speaker 1: board for them? So far? They took the right tackle,

5105
04:16:52,720 --> 04:16:56,280
Speaker 1: Isaiah Wilson the first. They took the corner in the second,

5106
04:16:56,440 --> 04:17:00,960
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton. So could see them go ahead Rusher? Uh?

5107
04:17:01,920 --> 04:17:05,440
Speaker 1: Could see them go with more offensive line help? Uh?

5108
04:17:05,480 --> 04:17:10,480
Speaker 1: Could they take a linebacker like Malik Harrison? Um already

5109
04:17:10,520 --> 04:17:14,360
Speaker 1: didn't they? Yeah? Yeah? So they lost their tight end though, too,

5110
04:17:14,480 --> 04:17:18,640
Speaker 1: didn't they didn't? They lose. Uh. They they moved on

5111
04:17:18,800 --> 04:17:22,000
Speaker 1: from their long time tied end there, Landy Walker. Yeah,

5112
04:17:22,040 --> 04:17:25,120
Speaker 1: they moved on like what's his name a lot though,

5113
04:17:25,320 --> 04:17:29,760
Speaker 1: Um they're other tight end uh from fiu oh Um

5114
04:17:31,360 --> 04:17:36,120
Speaker 1: Smith John Smith, Yes, uh so they like him a lot.

5115
04:17:36,200 --> 04:17:38,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean tight end could be a possibility here.

5116
04:17:39,200 --> 04:17:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean I was just again looking at the board

5117
04:17:41,280 --> 04:17:44,280
Speaker 1: and you know, and and seeing where the position maybe

5118
04:17:44,320 --> 04:17:48,640
Speaker 1: the better rated players would be on somebody's board. You know,

5119
04:17:49,240 --> 04:17:51,880
Speaker 1: that's kind of who who is the backup quarterback there?

5120
04:17:51,920 --> 04:17:54,520
Speaker 1: Have They have they addressed that with their situation there?

5121
04:17:54,560 --> 04:17:57,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so? Is that an I mean that's

5122
04:17:57,400 --> 04:17:59,040
Speaker 1: what I'm kind of looking at right now. If you

5123
04:17:59,120 --> 04:18:01,880
Speaker 1: know they've they've made commitment, you know, for the guy

5124
04:18:01,960 --> 04:18:05,320
Speaker 1: to have. But is there a backup quarterback there? Well? No,

5125
04:18:05,560 --> 04:18:08,360
Speaker 1: I think yeah, they they have the tleto kid Logan

5126
04:18:08,400 --> 04:18:12,960
Speaker 1: woods Side. Yeah, but no, I mean yeah, could they

5127
04:18:13,000 --> 04:18:16,200
Speaker 1: go with Aniston here as a you know, the value

5128
04:18:16,240 --> 04:18:19,240
Speaker 1: is just too much here to put behind Ryan Tannehill

5129
04:18:19,680 --> 04:18:25,320
Speaker 1: in case you know there's an injuries that's possibility. It's

5130
04:18:25,360 --> 04:18:28,720
Speaker 1: still odd we even mentioned maybe twelve thirteen picks ago,

5131
04:18:28,800 --> 04:18:31,280
Speaker 1: how we haven't seen a quarterback off the board. Since

5132
04:18:31,800 --> 04:18:34,840
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts went to Philadelphia at fifty three and we're

5133
04:18:34,840 --> 04:18:37,600
Speaker 1: almost to pick one hundred, we still haven't seen a quarterback.

5134
04:18:37,920 --> 04:18:40,640
Speaker 1: I mean, much to Brian's point about the tight ends,

5135
04:18:40,640 --> 04:18:43,200
Speaker 1: you could say the same thing about some of these quarterbacks.

5136
04:18:43,240 --> 04:18:46,960
Speaker 1: They don't necessarily need to be starters. A backup quarterback

5137
04:18:47,040 --> 04:18:49,920
Speaker 1: potential like a team like Tennessee. I don't know if

5138
04:18:49,960 --> 04:18:52,760
Speaker 1: Tennessee would go with one here, but I mean there's

5139
04:18:52,840 --> 04:18:56,000
Speaker 1: some teams here that could use one. I think this

5140
04:18:56,200 --> 04:18:58,480
Speaker 1: is just a random observation, but I think if the

5141
04:18:58,600 --> 04:19:01,880
Speaker 1: cowboys are listening, as they tend to do while they're

5142
04:19:01,960 --> 04:19:04,960
Speaker 1: in their separate war rooms right now, don't be afraid

5143
04:19:05,000 --> 04:19:06,880
Speaker 1: to jump back up in here to get a Keem Davis,

5144
04:19:07,000 --> 04:19:10,280
Speaker 1: Gaither or Terrell Burgess. Okay, don't be afraid to jump

5145
04:19:10,360 --> 04:19:14,160
Speaker 1: back in here. Are you willing this now? I'm willing it. Yeah,

5146
04:19:14,440 --> 04:19:17,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate you willing. I'm willing my way Keem Davis,

5147
04:19:17,760 --> 04:19:20,280
Speaker 1: Gaither or Terrell burg Usually day three, you're one of

5148
04:19:20,320 --> 04:19:22,360
Speaker 1: the best willers there is. Yeah, maybe I do have

5149
04:19:22,440 --> 04:19:24,280
Speaker 1: to wait. I have to this round to end ye

5150
04:19:24,480 --> 04:19:27,160
Speaker 1: sleep in and day three will something Yeah, what are

5151
04:19:27,200 --> 04:19:28,960
Speaker 1: you using? I mean, what would you use to get

5152
04:19:29,040 --> 04:19:32,680
Speaker 1: up anyway? That's my question. Okay, So here's the way

5153
04:19:32,680 --> 04:19:34,840
Speaker 1: I would approach this two fives. Here's the way i'd

5154
04:19:34,880 --> 04:19:37,400
Speaker 1: approaches I do worth that's worth like eight points. Oh,

5155
04:19:37,560 --> 04:19:40,080
Speaker 1: just use them. I have the two five, call the

5156
04:19:40,120 --> 04:19:41,720
Speaker 1: guy down to Houston. He'll give it to you. I

5157
04:19:41,960 --> 04:19:44,920
Speaker 1: also a couple picks. I also know how the comp

5158
04:19:45,000 --> 04:19:48,120
Speaker 1: formula works, so I know what I have coming next year.

5159
04:19:48,440 --> 04:19:51,800
Speaker 1: I know that I'm going to have extra picks, and

5160
04:19:52,120 --> 04:19:54,320
Speaker 1: maybe three or four, and maybe a couple of them

5161
04:19:54,360 --> 04:19:56,760
Speaker 1: are pretty darn good. I'm not afraid to use the

5162
04:19:56,840 --> 04:19:59,000
Speaker 1: next year's pick because it's gonna get replaced by a

5163
04:19:59,080 --> 04:20:02,480
Speaker 1: COMP pick that's fair. Next year's three for Byron Jones.

5164
04:20:03,600 --> 04:20:05,760
Speaker 1: Oh no, you can't have my way up trading for

5165
04:20:05,800 --> 04:20:08,360
Speaker 1: Byron Jones. No no, I'm just saying that you cannot.

5166
04:20:08,600 --> 04:20:11,400
Speaker 1: You cannot have my threes for next year. You're not

5167
04:20:11,440 --> 04:20:13,920
Speaker 1: gonna get next year threes. Not Well, you can't trade

5168
04:20:13,920 --> 04:20:16,440
Speaker 1: a pick that doesn't exist, first of all, So okay,

5169
04:20:16,840 --> 04:20:18,960
Speaker 1: but you can say that, But you could say next

5170
04:20:19,040 --> 04:20:21,320
Speaker 1: year three your own three. Yeah, you have your own

5171
04:20:21,320 --> 04:20:23,240
Speaker 1: you three, your own three for you got one. You

5172
04:20:23,360 --> 04:20:25,280
Speaker 1: know you're getting one. If you know you're getting one, yeah,

5173
04:20:26,160 --> 04:20:28,320
Speaker 1: you can do that. I would not do that. But

5174
04:20:28,400 --> 04:20:30,520
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna give you a third right now for next

5175
04:20:30,600 --> 04:20:33,920
Speaker 1: year's three. Yeah, exactly. Yets are happy about picking a

5176
04:20:34,000 --> 04:20:40,160
Speaker 1: player here. They're just going there. You're usually my my

5177
04:20:40,360 --> 04:20:43,320
Speaker 1: common sense buddy. Don't do this. You guys are all

5178
04:20:43,400 --> 04:20:45,720
Speaker 1: really taking turns being common sense guy, and I'm gonna

5179
04:20:45,720 --> 04:20:47,520
Speaker 1: need you to narrow down who's gonna play that role.

5180
04:20:47,600 --> 04:20:51,400
Speaker 1: Ever since Dane moved, he's become common sense guy. I

5181
04:20:51,440 --> 04:20:56,160
Speaker 1: got two kids. That happens. I thought that was the

5182
04:20:56,240 --> 04:20:57,920
Speaker 1: role that I was gonna have to fill coming into

5183
04:20:58,000 --> 04:21:01,320
Speaker 1: this this one. But it's everybody but Jeff. Yeah, Kyle,

5184
04:21:01,320 --> 04:21:02,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to come on over to my side

5185
04:21:02,800 --> 04:21:05,160
Speaker 1: and get a little wild on him. You know, Jeff

5186
04:21:05,160 --> 04:21:07,040
Speaker 1: and Brian, we got too much reality in here. You

5187
04:21:07,400 --> 04:21:09,480
Speaker 1: try to get crazy. Fine, let's trade back up and

5188
04:21:09,520 --> 04:21:11,640
Speaker 1: let's go get another wide receiver. Let's go fifty Burger.

5189
04:21:12,080 --> 04:21:15,560
Speaker 1: Oh okay, is there a wide receiver the running would

5190
04:21:15,600 --> 04:21:19,960
Speaker 1: even want to draft this early? Left? Uh? Donovan, people's jones, Kja,

5191
04:21:21,840 --> 04:21:23,520
Speaker 1: why would you bring that name up? I don't know

5192
04:21:23,560 --> 04:21:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just getting I'm just getting crazy. Dandy

5193
04:21:28,360 --> 04:21:32,520
Speaker 1: Golden I can get I should be able to Proche tomorrow. Jennings,

5194
04:21:33,120 --> 04:21:35,880
Speaker 1: I can get Proche tomorrow. Ideally I could get kJ

5195
04:21:36,040 --> 04:21:39,000
Speaker 1: Hill tomorrow too. Ideal. Yeah, I bet, I bet kJ

5196
04:21:39,160 --> 04:21:42,160
Speaker 1: Hills Belle with their fourth round pick, we gotta pick cut. Finally, Tennessee,

5197
04:21:44,000 --> 04:21:52,080
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans slack Darrington Evans running back state. I

5198
04:21:52,120 --> 04:21:54,160
Speaker 1: didn't think he'd be the first step steak guy off

5199
04:21:54,200 --> 04:21:59,080
Speaker 1: the board. That makes sense. Five bucks to anybody that

5200
04:21:59,120 --> 04:22:03,440
Speaker 1: can name Tennessee's back up running back. I would I

5201
04:22:03,440 --> 04:22:09,600
Speaker 1: would lose Darrington Evans. Yeah, exactly, there it is bucks. No,

5202
04:22:09,680 --> 04:22:13,000
Speaker 1: because they don't really have anybody behind Derrick Henry, who's

5203
04:22:13,840 --> 04:22:16,880
Speaker 1: on the franchise tag. So, uh, that pick makes sense

5204
04:22:17,000 --> 04:22:18,760
Speaker 1: and this is the right way to do things. Leave

5205
04:22:18,840 --> 04:22:22,640
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry on the franchise tag and after this year, Una,

5206
04:22:22,760 --> 04:22:25,560
Speaker 1: let's not go down that rabbit hole. Sorry. Uh, like

5207
04:22:25,720 --> 04:22:30,000
Speaker 1: Darrison Evans, it's all about speed that uh that outside zone.

5208
04:22:30,480 --> 04:22:34,120
Speaker 1: Uh just let he's not the most gifted runner in

5209
04:22:34,280 --> 04:22:37,560
Speaker 1: terms of uh, you know, working off contact and you

5210
04:22:37,600 --> 04:22:39,560
Speaker 1: know he's not a banger in the middle, but He's

5211
04:22:39,600 --> 04:22:42,120
Speaker 1: a guy that will give him a runway and he'll

5212
04:22:42,160 --> 04:22:44,680
Speaker 1: make something happen kind of a lot of ways. Kind

5213
04:22:44,680 --> 04:22:47,360
Speaker 1: of like Derrick Henry, just in a much different package. Uh.

5214
04:22:47,440 --> 04:22:50,040
Speaker 1: He's not nearly as big and he's much faster, but

5215
04:22:50,280 --> 04:22:52,000
Speaker 1: it's all about the runway. You give him a little

5216
04:22:52,000 --> 04:22:53,440
Speaker 1: bit of room to work and he'll do the rest

5217
04:22:53,480 --> 04:22:56,280
Speaker 1: of that athleticism. Yeah, I think this guy does a

5218
04:22:56,400 --> 04:22:59,680
Speaker 1: really good job. Dane. Once again, it's got him cold.

5219
04:23:00,240 --> 04:23:02,960
Speaker 1: I think that to me that the the you look

5220
04:23:03,040 --> 04:23:05,280
Speaker 1: at him and the way he runs, and you know,

5221
04:23:05,480 --> 04:23:07,440
Speaker 1: you kind of see a guy that's been used as

5222
04:23:07,520 --> 04:23:10,480
Speaker 1: a running back and a wide receiver both during his career,

5223
04:23:10,600 --> 04:23:13,080
Speaker 1: and so when the ball's thrown to his direction, he'll

5224
04:23:13,120 --> 04:23:15,560
Speaker 1: make some he'll make some place. I mean, he'll make

5225
04:23:15,600 --> 04:23:17,240
Speaker 1: some place that makes some catch. I thought he did

5226
04:23:17,280 --> 04:23:19,560
Speaker 1: a really good job of protecting the football. You don't

5227
04:23:19,600 --> 04:23:21,360
Speaker 1: see him put the ball on the ground. You know

5228
04:23:21,440 --> 04:23:24,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna run tough, he's gonna hold onto it. He's

5229
04:23:24,560 --> 04:23:27,160
Speaker 1: got some value as a kickoff return guy as well.

5230
04:23:27,200 --> 04:23:29,480
Speaker 1: I know that's something that's not really big and I

5231
04:23:30,280 --> 04:23:32,280
Speaker 1: just bring it up, but you know, because the special

5232
04:23:32,320 --> 04:23:35,000
Speaker 1: team's value. But in this day and age, with kickoff return,

5233
04:23:35,040 --> 04:23:36,480
Speaker 1: it's like they pump him out of the end zone.

5234
04:23:36,480 --> 04:23:38,400
Speaker 1: If if a guy is a punt returner, that kind

5235
04:23:38,440 --> 04:23:40,960
Speaker 1: of gets my attention right there. But this kid is

5236
04:23:41,000 --> 04:23:43,520
Speaker 1: a he's one of those guys. When he does see

5237
04:23:43,600 --> 04:23:46,640
Speaker 1: that opening boom, he's gonna hit it and he's gonna go. Man,

5238
04:23:47,080 --> 04:23:49,720
Speaker 1: once you get outside the tackles with him, he is

5239
04:23:49,840 --> 04:23:52,200
Speaker 1: as fun as they come on tape. I mean, seven

5240
04:23:52,280 --> 04:23:56,320
Speaker 1: yards per carry, eighteen touchdowns, I mean, and I think

5241
04:23:56,400 --> 04:23:58,880
Speaker 1: eight of those eighteen were outside of the tackles as well.

5242
04:23:58,920 --> 04:24:01,080
Speaker 1: By the way, just a stat that I think I

5243
04:24:01,720 --> 04:24:04,560
Speaker 1: saw on Pro Football Focus. It looks like credit excuse me.

5244
04:24:04,880 --> 04:24:08,440
Speaker 1: It looks like the Packers pick is in in the

5245
04:24:08,560 --> 04:24:15,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL Draft, Green Bay Packers slack Josiah tight ends.

5246
04:24:18,000 --> 04:24:23,840
Speaker 1: Interesting who had the Guara head of Troutman and Albertau

5247
04:24:24,200 --> 04:24:27,840
Speaker 1: and uh some of these other tight ends. That's that's surprising.

5248
04:24:28,640 --> 04:24:30,440
Speaker 1: You would have had me on that one for sure. Now,

5249
04:24:30,600 --> 04:24:32,960
Speaker 1: Deguara did have a really nice Senior Bowl week, and

5250
04:24:33,040 --> 04:24:34,920
Speaker 1: I even saw some of the notes that I wrote down.

5251
04:24:34,960 --> 04:24:38,000
Speaker 1: He made a couple of flashy plays in practice that

5252
04:24:38,200 --> 04:24:40,160
Speaker 1: kind of caught my eye, but overall as a player,

5253
04:24:40,160 --> 04:24:42,880
Speaker 1: I didn't have him even close to either of the

5254
04:24:42,960 --> 04:24:45,400
Speaker 1: Bryant and Bryant Law firm. Like Brian called it earlier.

5255
04:24:45,400 --> 04:24:46,520
Speaker 1: I thought that was a great way to put it,

5256
04:24:46,640 --> 04:24:51,040
Speaker 1: But I didn't have him anywhere close to those guys. Yeah,

5257
04:24:51,120 --> 04:24:54,200
Speaker 1: I was. This was I think that if you look

5258
04:24:54,200 --> 04:24:55,880
Speaker 1: at I'm trying to think of what would be his

5259
04:24:56,760 --> 04:25:00,640
Speaker 1: his best trait and probably his ability to catch the ball.

5260
04:25:00,680 --> 04:25:03,040
Speaker 1: I think that's something that I didn't see anything else

5261
04:25:03,160 --> 04:25:05,520
Speaker 1: that was really kind of just really stood out other

5262
04:25:05,600 --> 04:25:08,080
Speaker 1: than Okay, throw him the ball. He's pretty good at

5263
04:25:08,360 --> 04:25:11,240
Speaker 1: extending the hands, catching it on the move, getting up

5264
04:25:11,280 --> 04:25:13,960
Speaker 1: the field. But I would kind of see a guy

5265
04:25:14,040 --> 04:25:17,720
Speaker 1: that that that that's about his best ability of doing

5266
04:25:17,760 --> 04:25:19,640
Speaker 1: that is being able to catch the ball instead of

5267
04:25:19,680 --> 04:25:23,800
Speaker 1: being a run blocker. For say, now you got the

5268
04:25:23,880 --> 04:25:27,840
Speaker 1: Broncos up the Chiefs in the Browns or excuse me,

5269
04:25:28,640 --> 04:25:30,800
Speaker 1: yeah no, it would be the Browns next at ninety

5270
04:25:30,880 --> 04:25:33,480
Speaker 1: seven and ninety seven, by the way, is the first

5271
04:25:33,560 --> 04:25:35,920
Speaker 1: comp pick that we would have out of a string

5272
04:25:36,000 --> 04:25:38,560
Speaker 1: of them. There's ten comp picks to round out the

5273
04:25:38,960 --> 04:25:42,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixth overall selection. That right, now it

5274
04:25:42,280 --> 04:25:45,480
Speaker 1: belongs to the Ravens. So with the Broncos on the

5275
04:25:45,600 --> 04:25:47,800
Speaker 1: clock here, they've had a couple of picks go their

5276
04:25:47,840 --> 04:25:50,960
Speaker 1: way so far. Trying to look back as to who

5277
04:25:51,080 --> 04:25:54,160
Speaker 1: they have selected. And you go back up to the

5278
04:25:54,240 --> 04:25:58,600
Speaker 1: first round come away with Jerry Judy helped kind of

5279
04:25:58,640 --> 04:26:00,680
Speaker 1: open the door for Cede Land to the Cowboys. Then

5280
04:26:00,680 --> 04:26:03,240
Speaker 1: you get kJ Hamler, so they're going with that that

5281
04:26:03,440 --> 04:26:06,520
Speaker 1: extra wide receiver look much like the Las Vegas Raiders.

5282
04:26:06,920 --> 04:26:09,880
Speaker 1: And then they get Ojamodidiya or whatever you say his name,

5283
04:26:09,960 --> 04:26:14,360
Speaker 1: like the cornerback Iowa. Yeah, that guy, But what are

5284
04:26:14,360 --> 04:26:16,640
Speaker 1: you looking at here? Oh? They also got Lloyd Cushionberry

5285
04:26:16,680 --> 04:26:19,360
Speaker 1: from LSU to go into that as well. So maybe

5286
04:26:19,440 --> 04:26:23,320
Speaker 1: defensive line thinking about here for the Broncos. They haven't

5287
04:26:23,320 --> 04:26:25,120
Speaker 1: addressed that yet. That's the one need that I have

5288
04:26:25,200 --> 04:26:27,880
Speaker 1: written down for him that they haven't necessarily had a

5289
04:26:28,040 --> 04:26:31,240
Speaker 1: solid pick at here. James Lynch from Baylor surprised we

5290
04:26:31,280 --> 04:26:33,600
Speaker 1: haven't heard his name yet. I think teams are confused.

5291
04:26:33,600 --> 04:26:36,760
Speaker 1: Where the best play him is my problem three? Technique

5292
04:26:36,840 --> 04:26:40,400
Speaker 1: only can you play him an outside as a base end?

5293
04:26:40,520 --> 04:26:43,640
Speaker 1: He doesn't have great length, but hard to ignore the

5294
04:26:43,720 --> 04:26:47,040
Speaker 1: production that he put up. I mean it's the Panther

5295
04:26:47,200 --> 04:26:51,800
Speaker 1: stack him and Weaver. Yeah. Yeah, the Panthers have drafted

5296
04:26:51,800 --> 04:26:55,000
Speaker 1: a lot of defensive lineman. But if he falls any further,

5297
04:26:55,160 --> 04:26:57,080
Speaker 1: Matt Rule is going to make a play. Yeah, it

5298
04:26:57,280 --> 04:26:59,720
Speaker 1: has to. I mean this kids guy, Yeah, this is guy.

5299
04:26:59,880 --> 04:27:02,000
Speaker 1: I think the thing that's really nice about him is

5300
04:27:02,080 --> 04:27:04,840
Speaker 1: that you can't see him play as a wide technique,

5301
04:27:05,240 --> 04:27:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, as an edge rusher. He's got the great

5302
04:27:07,560 --> 04:27:10,200
Speaker 1: effort and those he'll finish some plays. I saw him

5303
04:27:10,240 --> 04:27:12,000
Speaker 1: get fooled a couple of times. I mean, I like

5304
04:27:12,080 --> 04:27:13,760
Speaker 1: the kid, and there's people saying, Okay, you could play

5305
04:27:13,840 --> 04:27:15,920
Speaker 1: him outside, you could play him inside, play him as

5306
04:27:15,960 --> 04:27:17,840
Speaker 1: a three technique, let him get up the field, use

5307
04:27:17,880 --> 04:27:20,040
Speaker 1: the quickness, you know. Just kind of one of those guys.

5308
04:27:20,080 --> 04:27:22,160
Speaker 1: He just keeps coming at you, you know, he is.

5309
04:27:22,240 --> 04:27:25,120
Speaker 1: There's a relentless type of to his game and effort

5310
04:27:25,160 --> 04:27:28,360
Speaker 1: and all that. So yeah, I mean I love players

5311
04:27:28,440 --> 04:27:30,200
Speaker 1: like that. Maybe I fall in love with players that

5312
04:27:30,240 --> 04:27:32,720
Speaker 1: I always see, and Gallimore was a guy. Should give

5313
04:27:32,800 --> 04:27:35,000
Speaker 1: him credit for the plays he was making running down

5314
04:27:35,040 --> 04:27:37,800
Speaker 1: the field and stuff like that. But I really did

5315
04:27:37,960 --> 04:27:41,520
Speaker 1: like James Lynch quite a bit. What about Foeto here

5316
04:27:41,760 --> 04:27:44,240
Speaker 1: for Denver. I mean, that's a guy who's still on

5317
04:27:44,280 --> 04:27:46,280
Speaker 1: the board that I know, Brian, you brought him up

5318
04:27:46,320 --> 04:27:49,320
Speaker 1: really early in the broadcast, but he's still on the

5319
04:27:49,360 --> 04:27:51,000
Speaker 1: board as a guy that could maybe come in and

5320
04:27:51,040 --> 04:27:52,960
Speaker 1: make Yeah. I know that was the Falcons. I was

5321
04:27:53,040 --> 04:27:55,480
Speaker 1: talking to those guys and there they kept you know,

5322
04:27:55,520 --> 04:27:57,560
Speaker 1: they kept cluing me in. I'm like, oh, we know what,

5323
04:27:57,800 --> 04:27:59,840
Speaker 1: we liked this Futo guy. We like him and I'm like, okay,

5324
04:28:00,040 --> 04:28:02,160
Speaker 1: watched him and stuff like that. But you know, then

5325
04:28:02,200 --> 04:28:06,280
Speaker 1: they made another pick. But yeah, I'm I've I've got

5326
04:28:06,360 --> 04:28:08,240
Speaker 1: other guys I think that I would I would take

5327
04:28:08,480 --> 04:28:11,000
Speaker 1: I like the Lawrence kid from Lshoe a little better

5328
04:28:11,320 --> 04:28:13,560
Speaker 1: at that's at that spy if you want to, if

5329
04:28:13,600 --> 04:28:15,400
Speaker 1: you want to, yeah I did. I did tell me.

5330
04:28:16,000 --> 04:28:18,320
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you do with him? You know,

5331
04:28:18,440 --> 04:28:20,040
Speaker 1: I've got a plane. I've got a plane as a

5332
04:28:20,160 --> 04:28:23,000
Speaker 1: as a defensive tackle, is what I do. You know,

5333
04:28:23,120 --> 04:28:24,720
Speaker 1: I think he could play. I think he could put

5334
04:28:24,800 --> 04:28:27,120
Speaker 1: him like as that, maybe as a one, a heavy one,

5335
04:28:27,240 --> 04:28:29,280
Speaker 1: or you could play him as the three. There's there's

5336
04:28:29,360 --> 04:28:31,480
Speaker 1: things you could when you watch him play. And by

5337
04:28:31,520 --> 04:28:33,920
Speaker 1: the way, the Denver Broncos picks in and we'll get

5338
04:28:33,960 --> 04:28:37,320
Speaker 1: back into it. Here's a Roger uh Roger Goodell with

5339
04:28:37,440 --> 04:28:43,160
Speaker 1: the with the Broncos pick twenty twenty NFL Draft, the

5340
04:28:43,280 --> 04:28:49,320
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos select Vic Telvin. A gene defensive tackles him Arkansas.

5341
04:28:50,320 --> 04:28:53,360
Speaker 1: M What got you to cuss there? Dave does Roger

5342
04:28:53,520 --> 04:28:56,800
Speaker 1: his feet kicked up. First of all, Oh yeah, he's yeah,

5343
04:28:56,840 --> 04:29:00,360
Speaker 1: he is big time done here in the nineties. He's

5344
04:29:00,400 --> 04:29:03,040
Speaker 1: throwing the cards on the ground after their pick. He's

5345
04:29:03,080 --> 04:29:05,480
Speaker 1: just taking me. He's like spinning him into the fireplace.

5346
04:29:05,600 --> 04:29:08,120
Speaker 1: Now picks up a glass of whiskey and then yeah,

5347
04:29:09,080 --> 04:29:11,160
Speaker 1: he's got a cigarette burning over in the corner. He

5348
04:29:11,280 --> 04:29:14,440
Speaker 1: got a nice book in between picks that he's reading. Anyway,

5349
04:29:14,840 --> 04:29:17,920
Speaker 1: who's up? Okay? Um? No, I just I mentioned this

5350
04:29:18,040 --> 04:29:20,880
Speaker 1: earlier with Neville Gallimore. It's it's the same thing. I

5351
04:29:21,000 --> 04:29:23,600
Speaker 1: just I love the way this whole process is so

5352
04:29:23,760 --> 04:29:28,440
Speaker 1: cyclical because McTelvin a game was a Shrine game. Guy,

5353
04:29:28,680 --> 04:29:33,360
Speaker 1: was he not down? Yes, he was good enough that

5354
04:29:33,400 --> 04:29:35,200
Speaker 1: he got the call up to the Senior Bowl and

5355
04:29:35,440 --> 04:29:38,720
Speaker 1: he he was on our flight to Mobile. And you know,

5356
04:29:38,880 --> 04:29:41,120
Speaker 1: anytime you see a football player in the airport you're

5357
04:29:41,160 --> 04:29:43,200
Speaker 1: kind of looking for. You're like, Okay, this guy's got

5358
04:29:43,280 --> 04:29:45,560
Speaker 1: a pig on his backpack. He went to Arkansas. What's

5359
04:29:45,680 --> 04:29:48,640
Speaker 1: what's this dude's deal? You figure out it's McTelvin. A game,

5360
04:29:48,720 --> 04:29:51,720
Speaker 1: he goes to the Senior Bowl, jumps up onto the radar,

5361
04:29:51,840 --> 04:29:53,720
Speaker 1: you know, his last second invite, had a really good

5362
04:29:53,760 --> 04:29:56,080
Speaker 1: week down there. And he's a guy that I would

5363
04:29:56,120 --> 04:29:58,160
Speaker 1: have been really happy to see the Cowboys pick. I

5364
04:29:58,520 --> 04:30:01,360
Speaker 1: said day three, which we're really close to day three,

5365
04:30:01,480 --> 04:30:04,440
Speaker 1: so that makes sense. And it's just cool, like you

5366
04:30:04,520 --> 04:30:07,040
Speaker 1: know he was. He made the best of a of

5367
04:30:07,440 --> 04:30:10,160
Speaker 1: a late time call up, and I'm happy for It's

5368
04:30:10,200 --> 04:30:13,200
Speaker 1: a pressure, Dave. You feel that pressure covering the Arkansas guys, right,

5369
04:30:13,760 --> 04:30:16,360
Speaker 1: you know, you know Steve and a Jerry. You got

5370
04:30:16,440 --> 04:30:18,280
Speaker 1: to kind of know those Arkansas guys. I have a

5371
04:30:18,320 --> 04:30:21,320
Speaker 1: background on him. Oh, Brian, you're smarter than that. The

5372
04:30:21,400 --> 04:30:24,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't actually ever draft Arkansas, but you got to

5373
04:30:24,400 --> 04:30:27,040
Speaker 1: know about those kids. This guy started forty forty games

5374
04:30:27,080 --> 04:30:29,840
Speaker 1: in his career. Think about that experienced. Yeah, he's got

5375
04:30:29,920 --> 04:30:32,160
Speaker 1: some athletic ability to him. He's got really good desire.

5376
04:30:32,200 --> 04:30:34,800
Speaker 1: I love the effort, the way he plays. The reason

5377
04:30:34,840 --> 04:30:36,840
Speaker 1: I watched him is because I kind of was getting

5378
04:30:36,920 --> 04:30:38,800
Speaker 1: us some hearing some whispered Oh, Kansas season on the clock.

5379
04:30:38,880 --> 04:30:41,800
Speaker 1: Let's go the commissioner real quick. Here with the ninety

5380
04:30:41,840 --> 04:30:44,800
Speaker 1: six pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Kansas

5381
04:30:44,840 --> 04:30:54,120
Speaker 1: City Chiefs like Lucas near tackle TCU Frogs, Lucas, Oh,

5382
04:30:54,280 --> 04:30:57,040
Speaker 1: go Frogs. I thought Jeff was yelling, we were robbed.

5383
04:30:58,280 --> 04:31:01,640
Speaker 1: I have to so I have to reach to the

5384
04:31:01,760 --> 04:31:03,680
Speaker 1: thing when that miss I had to get out of

5385
04:31:03,720 --> 04:31:06,760
Speaker 1: the chair and push just right. Games on fire right

5386
04:31:06,840 --> 04:31:08,280
Speaker 1: now from having to get up so many times, but

5387
04:31:08,400 --> 04:31:11,960
Speaker 1: just finish up with our Arkansas guy. I like the

5388
04:31:12,040 --> 04:31:13,640
Speaker 1: guy as far as you could watch him. A couple

5389
04:31:13,640 --> 04:31:15,840
Speaker 1: of games Kentucky Auburn. I thought he played pretty well

5390
04:31:15,880 --> 04:31:17,800
Speaker 1: in those games with the like to see him use

5391
04:31:17,840 --> 04:31:19,840
Speaker 1: his hands a little bit better. But there were some

5392
04:31:19,920 --> 04:31:22,080
Speaker 1: snaps where he just threw his shoulder in the blocker

5393
04:31:22,120 --> 04:31:24,480
Speaker 1: and went from there. But he's got some pop to

5394
04:31:24,560 --> 04:31:27,080
Speaker 1: his approach, and you know, I could see why somebody

5395
04:31:27,200 --> 04:31:29,400
Speaker 1: likes the kid great. The effort with him is really

5396
04:31:29,440 --> 04:31:32,920
Speaker 1: really good well, and I also I think during his

5397
04:31:33,800 --> 04:31:36,120
Speaker 1: time at the Senior Bowl, you also just kind of

5398
04:31:36,120 --> 04:31:38,600
Speaker 1: saw the effort, and I know there was a piece

5399
04:31:38,640 --> 04:31:41,440
Speaker 1: put out by the Dallas Cowboys dot com crew a

5400
04:31:41,520 --> 04:31:44,000
Speaker 1: little bit earlier this week, and even in those kind

5401
04:31:44,040 --> 04:31:45,920
Speaker 1: of it was a documentary behind the scenes of the

5402
04:31:46,040 --> 04:31:48,880
Speaker 1: draft process with the scouting department, and one of the

5403
04:31:49,120 --> 04:31:51,480
Speaker 1: clips they're actually talking about a game and what he's

5404
04:31:51,520 --> 04:31:53,680
Speaker 1: doing at the Senior Bowl, kind of talking about his

5405
04:31:53,720 --> 04:31:56,080
Speaker 1: technique and whatnot. So at least at one point the

5406
04:31:56,120 --> 04:32:00,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys scouting department at least caught the attention or at

5407
04:32:00,120 --> 04:32:02,880
Speaker 1: least a game caught the attention of the scouting department overall.

5408
04:32:02,920 --> 04:32:06,800
Speaker 1: But yes, Lucas Nange goes to the Kansas City Chiefs,

5409
04:32:06,840 --> 04:32:09,240
Speaker 1: they get some offensive line help. Is that just depth

5410
04:32:09,560 --> 04:32:17,960
Speaker 1: day in terms of there for Kansas City or his

5411
04:32:18,000 --> 04:32:20,680
Speaker 1: tackle actually a need there? No, I don't think it's

5412
04:32:20,680 --> 04:32:23,680
Speaker 1: a need with Fisher and Schwartz, but uh, you know,

5413
04:32:23,720 --> 04:32:26,520
Speaker 1: I think the value for the Chiefs became, you know,

5414
04:32:26,560 --> 04:32:28,760
Speaker 1: too much, and they didn't want to pass. He was

5415
04:32:28,800 --> 04:32:31,600
Speaker 1: a right tackle only at TCU. Maybe you look to

5416
04:32:31,720 --> 04:32:34,720
Speaker 1: move I mean six six through fifteen, maybe you'd try

5417
04:32:34,800 --> 04:32:36,720
Speaker 1: and movement inside to guards see what he can do.

5418
04:32:37,520 --> 04:32:40,280
Speaker 1: But this is a player where if he were fully healthy.

5419
04:32:40,440 --> 04:32:42,480
Speaker 1: I think he goes earlier than this, but he had

5420
04:32:42,520 --> 04:32:45,920
Speaker 1: a hip injury that he played with. He played through

5421
04:32:46,000 --> 04:32:48,120
Speaker 1: his entire for the first half of his senior year,

5422
04:32:48,160 --> 04:32:50,800
Speaker 1: and then he just you know, pain tolerance became too

5423
04:32:50,920 --> 04:32:54,040
Speaker 1: much and he missed the second half of the year,

5424
04:32:54,160 --> 04:32:56,720
Speaker 1: missed most of the pre draft process. If he can

5425
04:32:56,760 --> 04:33:00,880
Speaker 1: be more consistent with his footwork, with his landmarks, like,

5426
04:33:01,000 --> 04:33:02,920
Speaker 1: I like a lot of what he has to offer.

5427
04:33:03,040 --> 04:33:05,960
Speaker 1: So I like this as an upside pick for the Chiefs.

5428
04:33:06,680 --> 04:33:11,400
Speaker 1: Jacob Phillips, the linebacker from LSU, goes to the Cleveland Browns.

5429
04:33:11,440 --> 04:33:15,640
Speaker 1: We're now in the compensatory phase of the draft here,

5430
04:33:15,720 --> 04:33:18,160
Speaker 1: so David Hellman, give me a little scouting report on

5431
04:33:18,280 --> 04:33:21,920
Speaker 1: Jacob Phillips, the linebacker LSU. I just think he's a

5432
04:33:22,919 --> 04:33:25,920
Speaker 1: He is a steady player like nothing. I mean, he

5433
04:33:26,000 --> 04:33:29,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have the athleticism that's gonna wow you like Patrick Queen.

5434
04:33:29,160 --> 04:33:32,160
Speaker 1: That's why he's being drafted here. But he just produced

5435
04:33:32,320 --> 04:33:34,560
Speaker 1: for LSU. I mean, he tackles everything. He's got the

5436
04:33:34,640 --> 04:33:39,080
Speaker 1: athleticism to move side to side. He makes plays on

5437
04:33:39,120 --> 04:33:41,000
Speaker 1: the ball. I remember, Brian, we sat next to each

5438
04:33:41,040 --> 04:33:43,120
Speaker 1: other at at and T stadium and watched him pick

5439
04:33:43,200 --> 04:33:48,960
Speaker 1: six Miami. He's just a reliable guy, like I would

5440
04:33:49,000 --> 04:33:51,520
Speaker 1: have loved to draft this guy on Day three to

5441
04:33:51,759 --> 04:33:54,560
Speaker 1: be a you know, a fill in for my will

5442
04:33:54,640 --> 04:33:56,840
Speaker 1: in mic linebacker position. Yeah. That a matter of fact,

5443
04:33:56,840 --> 04:34:00,280
Speaker 1: they're showing that interception right now against Miami. The thing

5444
04:34:00,400 --> 04:34:02,160
Speaker 1: that bothered me, even though he had that pick six,

5445
04:34:02,840 --> 04:34:04,880
Speaker 1: I saw them take him off the field in some

5446
04:34:05,040 --> 04:34:07,840
Speaker 1: nickel situations. You know, it's like they it's like they

5447
04:34:07,880 --> 04:34:10,360
Speaker 1: weren't really sure about him. They were rotating guys in

5448
04:34:10,480 --> 04:34:13,000
Speaker 1: and out of there. But you're right, Dave, he'll step

5449
04:34:13,160 --> 04:34:15,360
Speaker 1: up and he will take on ball carriers and he

5450
04:34:15,440 --> 04:34:18,000
Speaker 1: will finish and he's not afraid to deliver a blow,

5451
04:34:18,160 --> 04:34:21,120
Speaker 1: be physical. But again, that get taking him off the field,

5452
04:34:21,360 --> 04:34:25,680
Speaker 1: especially here. That's I mean he's at a school like LSU,

5453
04:34:25,840 --> 04:34:27,840
Speaker 1: Like he could be the best player on the defense

5454
04:34:28,000 --> 04:34:30,240
Speaker 1: at a lot of schools, but not LSU. And I

5455
04:34:30,320 --> 04:34:32,640
Speaker 1: mean he got lost in the shuffle behind a lot

5456
04:34:32,720 --> 04:34:34,960
Speaker 1: of guys because they're they've got four and five star

5457
04:34:35,040 --> 04:34:38,720
Speaker 1: talents everywhere, which is you know, I wouldn't have I

5458
04:34:38,759 --> 04:34:40,920
Speaker 1: would not have drafted him any higher than this. But

5459
04:34:41,080 --> 04:34:42,840
Speaker 1: I just think he's I mean, I think he's gonna

5460
04:34:42,840 --> 04:34:45,120
Speaker 1: play in the NFL for a while, maybe not be

5461
04:34:45,400 --> 04:34:48,600
Speaker 1: a star, but just a solid, productive linebacker. Well, and

5462
04:34:48,680 --> 04:34:51,440
Speaker 1: I think kind of the fact that he's selected here,

5463
04:34:51,840 --> 04:34:55,200
Speaker 1: it kind of brings up the conversation of the linebacking group. Overall,

5464
04:34:55,240 --> 04:34:57,560
Speaker 1: there's only been a handful of linebackers even taken in

5465
04:34:57,600 --> 04:34:59,399
Speaker 1: the draft. You still got some good ones out there,

5466
04:34:59,440 --> 04:35:02,960
Speaker 1: like a Malie Harrison from Ohio State, Troy Die Oregon,

5467
04:35:03,320 --> 04:35:05,840
Speaker 1: Keem Davis Gaither who we continue to talk about here,

5468
04:35:06,600 --> 04:35:09,120
Speaker 1: Marcus Bailey from Purdue as a guy who right around

5469
04:35:09,200 --> 04:35:11,440
Speaker 1: this sweet spot of the fourth round. We've had conversations

5470
04:35:11,440 --> 04:35:14,559
Speaker 1: on the Draft show before. Over So, I still think

5471
04:35:14,600 --> 04:35:17,360
Speaker 1: there's a lot of linebackers that are taken or that

5472
04:35:17,440 --> 04:35:19,440
Speaker 1: are still on the board. Rather so the fact that

5473
04:35:19,600 --> 04:35:24,040
Speaker 1: he's I believe I have seven linebackers taken, so you

5474
04:35:24,160 --> 04:35:27,600
Speaker 1: have Phillips is the seventh. That's a pretty high token

5475
04:35:27,680 --> 04:35:29,640
Speaker 1: for a guy who, like you said, got kind of

5476
04:35:29,680 --> 04:35:31,680
Speaker 1: pushed back because of the success of a guy like

5477
04:35:31,800 --> 04:35:35,840
Speaker 1: Patrick Queen Well got Baltimore is on the clock. This

5478
04:35:36,000 --> 04:35:39,320
Speaker 1: was a pick that originally belonged to New England, though

5479
04:35:39,400 --> 04:35:42,560
Speaker 1: now the Ravens were waiting for them to hand their

5480
04:35:42,640 --> 04:35:44,960
Speaker 1: card in right now. So I feel like the Ravens

5481
04:35:45,000 --> 04:35:47,320
Speaker 1: have had always say this, the Ravens had a good draft.

5482
04:35:47,600 --> 04:35:49,920
Speaker 1: They just sit there and pick the pick players and

5483
04:35:49,960 --> 04:35:52,040
Speaker 1: they'd say fall to them, you know, and they get

5484
04:35:52,040 --> 04:35:54,520
Speaker 1: the Lamar Jackson at thirty two. Why does that make

5485
04:35:54,600 --> 04:35:57,280
Speaker 1: all so mad? Because they do the right thing? Do

5486
04:35:57,440 --> 04:35:59,840
Speaker 1: you wish your team did that? Yes, I admire it,

5487
04:36:00,040 --> 04:36:02,200
Speaker 1: and they're doing the Cowboys are doing it this year,

5488
04:36:02,280 --> 04:36:04,880
Speaker 1: so you know, it's cool. Just they do it a lot.

5489
04:36:05,759 --> 04:36:10,200
Speaker 1: The Ravens pick Patrick Queen, JK. Dobbins, yeah, Justin Metabek,

5490
04:36:10,720 --> 04:36:13,560
Speaker 1: Devin DuVernay. And they still need some defensive line help

5491
04:36:13,640 --> 04:36:16,160
Speaker 1: maybe defensive tackle or edge here. But that is a hell.

5492
04:36:16,360 --> 04:36:18,800
Speaker 1: It's a pretty good draft so far. And you're wondering

5493
04:36:18,840 --> 04:36:20,640
Speaker 1: why I was mad, Right, No, I'm not. But I

5494
04:36:20,680 --> 04:36:24,360
Speaker 1: mean it's they're like they don't move. It's not like

5495
04:36:24,480 --> 04:36:27,680
Speaker 1: they're in the damn NFC East. I mean, you get

5496
04:36:27,680 --> 04:36:30,240
Speaker 1: to see him firsthand next year, Dave. Yeah, we get

5497
04:36:30,280 --> 04:36:32,080
Speaker 1: you get to make a trip to Baltimore and hopefully

5498
04:36:32,080 --> 04:36:34,079
Speaker 1: they'll have the hope I'm gonna get to stay there

5499
04:36:34,080 --> 04:36:38,160
Speaker 1: at Camden Yards. I mean crab cakes. Yeah, watch some football.

5500
04:36:38,360 --> 04:36:40,520
Speaker 1: Such a lovely city. This is going to be a blast.

5501
04:36:40,720 --> 04:36:42,600
Speaker 1: Flip the lady in extra twenty Sh'll give you an

5502
04:36:42,600 --> 04:36:45,160
Speaker 1: extra crab cake, Dave. I'll do that, Brian, Yeah, I

5503
04:36:45,280 --> 04:36:47,160
Speaker 1: did it a couple of times. It works. How much

5504
04:36:47,160 --> 04:36:49,400
Speaker 1: of crab cakes twenty No, you get them free and

5505
04:36:49,480 --> 04:36:51,320
Speaker 1: you know in the media area, but they only give

5506
04:36:51,320 --> 04:36:54,120
Speaker 1: you one, so you Roger Goodell is gonna give me

5507
04:36:54,160 --> 04:37:02,280
Speaker 1: a pick with exues me In the twenty NFL Draft

5508
04:37:02,480 --> 04:37:07,800
Speaker 1: to Baltimore Ravens select Malie Harrison, line back Ohio State.

5509
04:37:08,080 --> 04:37:14,560
Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding me, Malie Harrison. Speaking of getting

5510
04:37:14,600 --> 04:37:19,720
Speaker 1: good players, I think Millie Harrison's arguably the best run

5511
04:37:19,840 --> 04:37:24,040
Speaker 1: defending linebacker in the draft. Um, and he wasn't asked

5512
04:37:24,080 --> 04:37:26,120
Speaker 1: to be in pass coverage all that much. But this

5513
04:37:26,320 --> 04:37:28,520
Speaker 1: is a pretty good athlete, so I think he can

5514
04:37:28,640 --> 04:37:31,680
Speaker 1: do it. But verse the run, he's really really good.

5515
04:37:31,880 --> 04:37:35,120
Speaker 1: And he's a high school quarterback. Wanted to play receiver

5516
04:37:35,280 --> 04:37:37,520
Speaker 1: when he went to Ohio State. They moved to linebacker.

5517
04:37:37,919 --> 04:37:40,360
Speaker 1: In every single year he got better and better and better.

5518
04:37:41,000 --> 04:37:43,280
Speaker 1: Surprised that he's the ninety eighth pick. I thought he'd

5519
04:37:43,320 --> 04:37:46,399
Speaker 1: go much higher than this, but typical Ravens fashion, they

5520
04:37:46,520 --> 04:37:48,320
Speaker 1: let a good player fall to them and they get him.

5521
04:37:48,560 --> 04:37:50,120
Speaker 1: I will say this, I just I mean, I just

5522
04:37:50,240 --> 04:37:53,200
Speaker 1: gave a nice scouting report of Jacob Phillips. I would

5523
04:37:53,280 --> 04:37:55,600
Speaker 1: draft this guy ahead of Jacob Phillips. Oh yeah, oh

5524
04:37:55,680 --> 04:37:57,720
Speaker 1: I would too. No, like, no question. I didn't even

5525
04:37:58,080 --> 04:37:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, we're so deep into this thing. I didn't

5526
04:37:59,800 --> 04:38:02,600
Speaker 1: even realized he was still on the board. Yeah. This,

5527
04:38:02,759 --> 04:38:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, this feels like a steal, which again not

5528
04:38:05,080 --> 04:38:07,360
Speaker 1: a huge surprise for the Ravens. Well. And the thing

5529
04:38:07,560 --> 04:38:09,600
Speaker 1: is is, I brought his name up a little bit ago.

5530
04:38:09,640 --> 04:38:12,200
Speaker 1: I did, much like Kavanaugh did, and he kind of

5531
04:38:12,240 --> 04:38:14,720
Speaker 1: talked about a little earlier about doing the cheap and

5532
04:38:14,840 --> 04:38:17,280
Speaker 1: kind of lazy mock draft the night or the morning

5533
04:38:17,320 --> 04:38:19,080
Speaker 1: of the draft. He was the one that was there

5534
04:38:19,520 --> 04:38:22,200
Speaker 1: at ninety eight for my mock draft this morning, So

5535
04:38:22,280 --> 04:38:23,919
Speaker 1: that's why I brought his name up, kind of going

5536
04:38:23,960 --> 04:38:26,640
Speaker 1: along with Jacob Phillips going it kind of sparked the

5537
04:38:26,720 --> 04:38:29,080
Speaker 1: conversation of linebackers. I had no idea that even the

5538
04:38:29,160 --> 04:38:32,960
Speaker 1: Ravens were interested in a guy like Malie Harrison, but man,

5539
04:38:33,160 --> 04:38:34,960
Speaker 1: I love that pick for them. There, and now you

5540
04:38:35,080 --> 04:38:37,400
Speaker 1: move on to the Giants and then the Patriots, or

5541
04:38:37,440 --> 04:38:39,920
Speaker 1: excuse me, the Patriots have given up their one hundredth

5542
04:38:39,960 --> 04:38:42,919
Speaker 1: comp pick as well, because now Las Vegas has that selection,

5543
04:38:43,400 --> 04:38:45,760
Speaker 1: and so you've got the Giants and then the Raiders.

5544
04:38:46,120 --> 04:38:48,120
Speaker 1: Is this a spot maybe for the Giants to look

5545
04:38:48,520 --> 04:38:51,720
Speaker 1: at a tight end overall, because much like Brian was

5546
04:38:51,759 --> 04:38:54,080
Speaker 1: talking about earlier, there's a run of tight ends going

5547
04:38:54,160 --> 04:38:56,960
Speaker 1: and I think you look at the Giants that, even

5548
04:38:57,000 --> 04:38:59,480
Speaker 1: though they have Evan Ingram, they may want to look

5549
04:38:59,520 --> 04:39:02,720
Speaker 1: at a tight end here, maybe interior offensive line, because

5550
04:39:02,759 --> 04:39:04,320
Speaker 1: I know they've had some trouble there too. It's been

5551
04:39:04,360 --> 04:39:06,719
Speaker 1: a run on tight ends that probably shouldn't have been

5552
04:39:06,759 --> 04:39:09,759
Speaker 1: picked yet over tight ends that are still on the board.

5553
04:39:09,840 --> 04:39:11,360
Speaker 1: So if you want one hold on going to the

5554
04:39:11,400 --> 04:39:15,759
Speaker 1: podium in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the New York

5555
04:39:15,840 --> 04:39:23,759
Speaker 1: Giants like Matt Parrot tackle University of Connecticut. Matt few parrot.

5556
04:39:25,680 --> 04:39:30,400
Speaker 1: Is it perfect parrot? It's parrot, It's what parrots? Parrot? Parrot?

5557
04:39:30,759 --> 04:39:34,400
Speaker 1: All right? Yeah, Roger had it right, job, Rodger, well done.

5558
04:39:35,560 --> 04:39:39,240
Speaker 1: Why is it a good Dane? Well? And it's a

5559
04:39:39,280 --> 04:39:41,800
Speaker 1: little bit of local flavor for him, grew up in

5560
04:39:41,840 --> 04:39:44,760
Speaker 1: the Bronx. Uh So he goes to the Giants and

5561
04:39:45,880 --> 04:39:48,320
Speaker 1: a player who I feel like I've said this a

5562
04:39:48,360 --> 04:39:50,359
Speaker 1: few times, but you have to play his best football.

5563
04:39:50,720 --> 04:39:56,480
Speaker 1: Huge size of frame, six six three eighteen thirty thirty

5564
04:39:56,680 --> 04:40:01,960
Speaker 1: six and five eighth inch arms, highlights. I mean, just silly.

5565
04:40:02,800 --> 04:40:05,160
Speaker 1: But you know he played left tackle and right tackle.

5566
04:40:05,320 --> 04:40:09,320
Speaker 1: He's still figuring out how to you know, how to

5567
04:40:09,400 --> 04:40:11,760
Speaker 1: answer a lot of the counters that rushers are gonna

5568
04:40:11,800 --> 04:40:14,079
Speaker 1: throw at him. But he moves well, he has length.

5569
04:40:14,160 --> 04:40:16,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's he's a developmental tackle that in the

5570
04:40:16,400 --> 04:40:19,079
Speaker 1: third round. That's the type of guy you're looking for. Well,

5571
04:40:19,200 --> 04:40:21,640
Speaker 1: just to tie this back to the Cowboys, also Cam

5572
04:40:21,680 --> 04:40:23,840
Speaker 1: Fleming right now is listed as the right tackle, but

5573
04:40:23,919 --> 04:40:26,040
Speaker 1: they did take Andrew Thomas in the first round, a

5574
04:40:26,200 --> 04:40:29,120
Speaker 1: fourth overall, so this the second tackle that they've taken.

5575
04:40:29,680 --> 04:40:32,360
Speaker 1: Dane was prepared more of a left or a right

5576
04:40:32,440 --> 04:40:34,440
Speaker 1: tackle during his time at Yukon. He played well. I

5577
04:40:34,640 --> 04:40:36,600
Speaker 1: saw him on right. Well. It was weird because he

5578
04:40:36,680 --> 04:40:39,120
Speaker 1: played He started at left tackles first two years, then

5579
04:40:39,120 --> 04:40:41,040
Speaker 1: they moved in the right tackle for his final two

5580
04:40:41,120 --> 04:40:44,240
Speaker 1: years and I asked him why and he said, I

5581
04:40:44,320 --> 04:40:46,320
Speaker 1: don't know. Coaches just asked me too, so I did.

5582
04:40:46,800 --> 04:40:49,200
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, there you go. So he he

5583
04:40:49,520 --> 04:40:51,120
Speaker 1: he's shown that he can play both sides. That went

5584
04:40:51,120 --> 04:40:52,760
Speaker 1: back and looked at some of a sophomore film and

5585
04:40:52,840 --> 04:40:54,520
Speaker 1: it's not like he was abysmal there. He did a

5586
04:40:54,600 --> 04:40:58,240
Speaker 1: nice job. And you know, I talked to him about

5587
04:40:58,280 --> 04:41:01,759
Speaker 1: he was the last remaining member of that recruiting class

5588
04:41:02,120 --> 04:41:05,800
Speaker 1: from yukon twenty fifteen, and UH asked him, why why

5589
04:41:05,880 --> 04:41:08,520
Speaker 1: just stay? You could have transferred grad transfer and he said,

5590
04:41:09,120 --> 04:41:11,239
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a loyal guy. This is the program

5591
04:41:11,400 --> 04:41:13,560
Speaker 1: that believed in me, gave me a scholarship, so I

5592
04:41:13,640 --> 04:41:17,280
Speaker 1: want to pay that back. And just a really good person.

5593
04:41:17,520 --> 04:41:20,520
Speaker 1: And I really enjoyed talking to him. And actually I

5594
04:41:20,640 --> 04:41:23,079
Speaker 1: called his high school football coach to find out more

5595
04:41:23,080 --> 04:41:25,600
Speaker 1: about him, and he I couldn't get him off the

5596
04:41:25,640 --> 04:41:28,440
Speaker 1: phone because he kept raving about how impressive a young

5597
04:41:28,520 --> 04:41:31,520
Speaker 1: man he is. Tanner Muse is going to be the

5598
04:41:31,600 --> 04:41:34,400
Speaker 1: first Clemson safety off the board. Although do you guys

5599
04:41:34,440 --> 04:41:39,320
Speaker 1: thinker That's what I'm thinking. And this is a Raiders

5600
04:41:39,360 --> 04:41:41,840
Speaker 1: pick right, Oh yeah, Oh here's Mike Mayock again. I mean,

5601
04:41:42,040 --> 04:41:45,160
Speaker 1: great guy, but he's he's gonna take a guy from Clemson, Alabama,

5602
04:41:45,280 --> 04:41:48,400
Speaker 1: one of those places. So yeah, I mean winning doubt. Yeah,

5603
04:41:48,640 --> 04:41:50,640
Speaker 1: draft guys from the schools that go to the playoffs

5604
04:41:50,680 --> 04:41:52,720
Speaker 1: every year. The one thing that I noticed about this

5605
04:41:52,800 --> 04:41:54,919
Speaker 1: guy watched him on tape. He looks like he can

5606
04:41:55,000 --> 04:42:02,040
Speaker 1: really running him here. I'm with Dave Hellman live at

5607
04:42:02,080 --> 04:42:03,440
Speaker 1: the game, but I had to go back and watch

5608
04:42:03,560 --> 04:42:07,000
Speaker 1: the tape and this kid. They put him in coverage.

5609
04:42:07,000 --> 04:42:09,680
Speaker 1: Either they put him like uh Edwards Hilaire would go

5610
04:42:09,720 --> 04:42:12,040
Speaker 1: to the flat and he would run with him, or

5611
04:42:12,080 --> 04:42:14,840
Speaker 1: he would carry Moss inside. So they did him a

5612
04:42:14,919 --> 04:42:18,160
Speaker 1: couple of different Uh, put him in a couple different spots. Dan,

5613
04:42:18,240 --> 04:42:20,400
Speaker 1: this guy's a really good special teams player, isn't he?

5614
04:42:20,720 --> 04:42:22,800
Speaker 1: That's it? Yeah, exactly, he's gonna I think he's I

5615
04:42:22,800 --> 04:42:25,079
Speaker 1: don't know that he's Where's he gonna play on defense?

5616
04:42:25,080 --> 04:42:27,399
Speaker 1: I have my questions there. This is a Rich Bisaccia

5617
04:42:27,480 --> 04:42:29,440
Speaker 1: pick right here, right, He's gonna play ten years in

5618
04:42:29,440 --> 04:42:31,800
Speaker 1: the league because of special teams. But I I just

5619
04:42:32,040 --> 04:42:36,960
Speaker 1: I question, uh with the rare Jets and Patriots trade. Uh.

5620
04:42:38,200 --> 04:42:40,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Tanner muse four four one speed to

5621
04:42:40,480 --> 04:42:42,560
Speaker 1: his size, he was a big time baseball player in

5622
04:42:42,640 --> 04:42:45,640
Speaker 1: high school. He is going to be a special team's

5623
04:42:45,759 --> 04:42:49,160
Speaker 1: demon for a lot of years in this league. And

5624
04:42:49,280 --> 04:42:51,520
Speaker 1: you just mentioned the Jets in the Patriots trading. I

5625
04:42:51,600 --> 04:42:56,280
Speaker 1: thought Seattle had one on one. Yeah, it looks like Seattle.

5626
04:42:56,280 --> 04:42:58,640
Speaker 1: It says New England's pick is in here? Are he not?

5627
04:42:58,840 --> 04:43:02,120
Speaker 1: Still on one hundred? Am I behind on one on

5628
04:43:02,240 --> 04:43:04,840
Speaker 1: one day? Damn it? Come on? Where'd you go? Dave?

5629
04:43:05,000 --> 04:43:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm losing. I'm losing my mind. That's what's going on

5630
04:43:07,120 --> 04:43:10,680
Speaker 1: the whole Another day tomorrow, Dave. Four more rounds left? No, No,

5631
04:43:10,800 --> 04:43:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm up to date, like this was the last A

5632
04:43:14,120 --> 04:43:16,760
Speaker 1: Blue Cup tomorrow is not a problem. Guys, you know

5633
04:43:16,840 --> 04:43:18,760
Speaker 1: how to say this. Hey Dane, what do you think?

5634
04:43:19,360 --> 04:43:23,359
Speaker 1: That's what happens on day three? There's water in the cup? Spicy?

5635
04:43:23,480 --> 04:43:26,840
Speaker 1: What I did? My uh no, my spreadsheet was just off.

5636
04:43:27,040 --> 04:43:32,399
Speaker 1: He's some Miller white right behind you. One wrong, all wrong? Okay,

5637
04:43:32,560 --> 04:43:35,079
Speaker 1: just remember that. I freaking hate you. May By the way,

5638
04:43:35,080 --> 04:43:36,600
Speaker 1: did you get the speech before the start of the

5639
04:43:36,680 --> 04:43:39,640
Speaker 1: draft yesterday? No? I didn't. I did. Didn't go with

5640
04:43:39,720 --> 04:43:42,280
Speaker 1: these of the times to try. We threw out, we

5641
04:43:42,400 --> 04:43:44,640
Speaker 1: threw out some Thomas Paine. We didn't do that. You didn't.

5642
04:43:44,759 --> 04:43:46,560
Speaker 1: We didn't do the never had so many oaths, so

5643
04:43:46,720 --> 04:43:49,200
Speaker 1: much to so few Me and me and Dane basically

5644
04:43:49,280 --> 04:43:51,920
Speaker 1: just made fun of how melodramatic you are. That's basically

5645
04:43:52,040 --> 04:43:54,600
Speaker 1: what happened. Cal. I'm a little disappointed in you didn't

5646
04:43:54,640 --> 04:43:56,640
Speaker 1: carry on that tradition. Is there is there a speech

5647
04:43:56,640 --> 04:43:59,120
Speaker 1: you want to give as we head into the start?

5648
04:43:59,360 --> 04:44:01,920
Speaker 1: There was such addition. And also Dave showed up yesterday

5649
04:44:01,960 --> 04:44:09,960
Speaker 1: with a tie tie tie? Dane should Dane? Did you

5650
04:44:10,040 --> 04:44:13,000
Speaker 1: not wear a tie? Dane asked me. Dan asked me

5651
04:44:13,080 --> 04:44:14,480
Speaker 1: what we should wear, and I told him to do

5652
04:44:14,560 --> 04:44:16,759
Speaker 1: what he wanted. It's so blame Hellman for the lack

5653
04:44:16,840 --> 04:44:20,840
Speaker 1: of tradition. A selfish guy. Y'all are your own men,

5654
04:44:21,160 --> 04:44:25,039
Speaker 1: y'all are grown ups. Whatever. Since Dane moved, Brian's right,

5655
04:44:25,600 --> 04:44:29,480
Speaker 1: he's really been about his family. Not cool kind of

5656
04:44:29,560 --> 04:44:33,080
Speaker 1: person is that? Yeah? Oh me? The fun we have

5657
04:44:33,160 --> 04:44:38,120
Speaker 1: at the draft, questions football character, the question why even

5658
04:44:38,160 --> 04:44:40,640
Speaker 1: came back. I feel like Brian would if he were scouting,

5659
04:44:40,720 --> 04:44:42,520
Speaker 1: he'd be like this guy's got two kids. He loves

5660
04:44:42,600 --> 04:44:46,600
Speaker 1: him so much. He's not really into football now, Dan,

5661
04:44:46,680 --> 04:44:48,960
Speaker 1: I do want to apologize because it was New It

5662
04:44:49,200 --> 04:44:52,919
Speaker 1: was New York that traded to New England, because New

5663
04:44:53,000 --> 04:44:55,080
Speaker 1: England had one hundred, but they gave that to the

5664
04:44:55,200 --> 04:44:58,720
Speaker 1: Raiders and now they get back up to one. So

5665
04:44:59,320 --> 04:45:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't know it's New England. But yeah, I was

5666
04:45:01,400 --> 04:45:04,480
Speaker 1: confused by the original saying. But Dane, of course, as always,

5667
04:45:04,640 --> 04:45:07,200
Speaker 1: was correct and one hundred percent certain that it was

5668
04:45:07,320 --> 04:45:10,400
Speaker 1: a rare New England New York trade between the Jets

5669
04:45:10,440 --> 04:45:12,960
Speaker 1: and the Patriots, and that's why the Patriots are actually

5670
04:45:12,960 --> 04:45:17,160
Speaker 1: on the clock here. Anthony Jennings Devin ASSISI two guys

5671
04:45:17,240 --> 04:45:19,680
Speaker 1: that they've already selected. Yeah, picked the most random guy

5672
04:45:19,759 --> 04:45:21,680
Speaker 1: on your board, and that's who they're gonna take. Could

5673
04:45:21,720 --> 04:45:25,040
Speaker 1: they go tight end again? Man? Yes, yeah, that would

5674
04:45:25,040 --> 04:45:29,720
Speaker 1: be such a problem. Take my guy Harris, and that's

5675
04:45:29,800 --> 04:45:33,640
Speaker 1: kind of what I would think. That's my guy Troutman. Yeah,

5676
04:45:33,720 --> 04:45:36,600
Speaker 1: Troutman would be a yeah, that would be good. I mean,

5677
04:45:36,640 --> 04:45:40,000
Speaker 1: I tuts my next best guy, Hunter, I mean Hunter

5678
04:45:40,120 --> 04:45:43,320
Speaker 1: Bryant too at Washington. Washington's a good player. I do.

5679
04:45:43,720 --> 04:45:46,040
Speaker 1: I do kind of like Hunter Bryant. He's fun. Could

5680
04:45:46,120 --> 04:45:51,360
Speaker 1: this be for a quarterback? Oh? Man, let's find about

5681
04:45:51,400 --> 04:45:59,559
Speaker 1: that because it's good value, fake fake out from Rod.

5682
04:46:00,400 --> 04:46:03,000
Speaker 1: But Rogers is talking to random Yeah, he says, on

5683
04:46:03,360 --> 04:46:07,160
Speaker 1: zoom with people or something. But how certain are they

5684
04:46:07,240 --> 04:46:09,520
Speaker 1: in Jared Stidham and the fact that nobody's taking a

5685
04:46:09,640 --> 04:46:11,760
Speaker 1: quarterback in a while. It seems like that take his

5686
04:46:11,840 --> 04:46:14,440
Speaker 1: kind of do. Here, Belichick is eight steps ahead. He

5687
04:46:14,480 --> 04:46:17,040
Speaker 1: doesn't really believe in Stidham. He believes Stidham can go

5688
04:46:17,120 --> 04:46:18,879
Speaker 1: one in fifteen, and he believes he can win eight

5689
04:46:18,960 --> 04:46:22,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowls with Trevor Lawrence. We love that he's sitting

5690
04:46:22,400 --> 04:46:25,360
Speaker 1: at this dining room table with him. I mean, I've

5691
04:46:25,400 --> 04:46:27,200
Speaker 1: got a better set up than the greatest coach of

5692
04:46:27,280 --> 04:46:29,520
Speaker 1: all time. He looks like he's doing homework. Did you

5693
04:46:29,560 --> 04:46:31,800
Speaker 1: see he had the dog like, oh yeah, yeah, like

5694
04:46:31,919 --> 04:46:34,039
Speaker 1: his GM is working. He and the dog is at

5695
04:46:34,080 --> 04:46:36,800
Speaker 1: the chair like looking at the computer. Belichick. Yeah, Well,

5696
04:46:36,800 --> 04:46:39,720
Speaker 1: that's the difference between Belichick and Kingsbury. You know, Kingsbury

5697
04:46:39,800 --> 04:46:41,720
Speaker 1: gets caught up and having a fire lit in a

5698
04:46:42,000 --> 04:46:45,360
Speaker 1: courtyard that you're not even at. Belichick believes in working.

5699
04:46:45,440 --> 04:46:47,400
Speaker 1: I think that looked like the lobby of a hotel

5700
04:46:47,560 --> 04:46:49,840
Speaker 1: more so than somebody. So here we go a at

5701
04:46:49,880 --> 04:46:52,840
Speaker 1: the table. Bill's waiting on a biscuits, a gravy to

5702
04:46:52,919 --> 04:46:54,800
Speaker 1: show up or something like that. Great if you had

5703
04:46:54,840 --> 04:46:56,840
Speaker 1: breakfast for dinner and it was sitting right there at

5704
04:46:56,880 --> 04:47:02,120
Speaker 1: the waffle house hanging out hungry me too. Okay, we

5705
04:47:02,200 --> 04:47:04,559
Speaker 1: talked about quarterback here, right, it's just somebody to throw

5706
04:47:04,640 --> 04:47:07,720
Speaker 1: that out. We just do it. Mentioned we mentioned it.

5707
04:47:08,040 --> 04:47:11,000
Speaker 1: Here's the commissioner tell us the hundred first pick to

5708
04:47:11,120 --> 04:47:15,040
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. With the hundred first pick in

5709
04:47:15,160 --> 04:47:21,040
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Patriots like Dalton teen tight

5710
04:47:21,200 --> 04:47:26,640
Speaker 1: end right sleeper, tight end at all to get tight

5711
04:47:26,759 --> 04:47:29,240
Speaker 1: ends rolling down the board. Okay, heard a lot of

5712
04:47:29,320 --> 04:47:31,800
Speaker 1: people really high on him, even though he doesn't get

5713
04:47:31,840 --> 04:47:34,640
Speaker 1: a lot of shine. I like the number twenty nine.

5714
04:47:35,759 --> 04:47:37,600
Speaker 1: But there wasn't a lot to watch this year in

5715
04:47:37,720 --> 04:47:40,040
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. But he was one of the few guys

5716
04:47:40,200 --> 04:47:44,120
Speaker 1: and they just barely used him. I mean he was. Uh.

5717
04:47:44,640 --> 04:47:46,879
Speaker 1: You look at his production. It doesn't get you excited.

5718
04:47:47,000 --> 04:47:49,000
Speaker 1: But when he had a chance, he made the most

5719
04:47:49,080 --> 04:47:51,560
Speaker 1: of it. So uh. And you gotta love a guy

5720
04:47:51,600 --> 04:47:55,000
Speaker 1: whose nickname is Rambo. So did you see his picture there?

5721
04:47:55,400 --> 04:47:57,520
Speaker 1: He had he had the stringing. He looked like a Rambo.

5722
04:47:58,160 --> 04:48:01,400
Speaker 1: He did here you go. Yeah, thanks. His dad was

5723
04:48:01,880 --> 04:48:04,400
Speaker 1: a former offensive lineman, so he's got that in his DNA,

5724
04:48:04,680 --> 04:48:06,759
Speaker 1: and uh, there's a lot to like about him as

5725
04:48:07,000 --> 04:48:08,680
Speaker 1: and he goes to a good fit with the with

5726
04:48:08,759 --> 04:48:11,759
Speaker 1: the Patriots, who will know how to use him along

5727
04:48:11,800 --> 04:48:14,079
Speaker 1: with Devin Assissi. At the same time, I was gonna say,

5728
04:48:14,080 --> 04:48:16,280
Speaker 1: it's a very Patriots thing to just draft two at

5729
04:48:16,280 --> 04:48:18,560
Speaker 1: the same time, well, listen, when you don't have one

5730
04:48:19,120 --> 04:48:21,600
Speaker 1: draft a bunch, especially if you're talking about the end

5731
04:48:21,640 --> 04:48:23,199
Speaker 1: of the third round through the end of the draft,

5732
04:48:23,360 --> 04:48:25,160
Speaker 1: just pick four of them and hope that you hit

5733
04:48:25,240 --> 04:48:26,879
Speaker 1: on one or something. I mean, don't didn't they come

5734
04:48:26,880 --> 04:48:29,240
Speaker 1: into this draft and into today with like twelve picks.

5735
04:48:30,600 --> 04:48:32,360
Speaker 1: It was it was quite a few. I mean they

5736
04:48:32,480 --> 04:48:34,720
Speaker 1: got there. They're they're owning this round right now. It

5737
04:48:34,720 --> 04:48:36,960
Speaker 1: looks like they got you know, with the It's funny

5738
04:48:36,960 --> 04:48:39,680
Speaker 1: about the Patriots though again they're teamed to draft. They

5739
04:48:39,720 --> 04:48:41,800
Speaker 1: don't care. They just don't. They don't care. They're just

5740
04:48:41,840 --> 04:48:44,240
Speaker 1: gonna do what they have to do. But it's it's

5741
04:48:44,400 --> 04:48:46,200
Speaker 1: it makes me now think of, Okay, what did did

5742
04:48:46,200 --> 04:48:48,600
Speaker 1: I miss somethone Troutman, did I miss something on these

5743
04:48:48,680 --> 04:48:51,600
Speaker 1: Bryant guys. I miss something on Pinckney. Did I miss

5744
04:48:51,680 --> 04:48:55,120
Speaker 1: something on Albert? Oh? You know? I mean, I mean,

5745
04:48:55,680 --> 04:48:58,160
Speaker 1: is it are these just now instead of third round guys?

5746
04:48:58,200 --> 04:49:00,640
Speaker 1: Are the fourth round guys or the fifth round eyes? Yeah,

5747
04:49:00,800 --> 04:49:02,920
Speaker 1: that's the thing. That's the thing if Pittsburgh Steelers picks.

5748
04:49:02,960 --> 04:49:04,920
Speaker 1: And we haven't gone to the commissioner yet, but it

5749
04:49:05,080 --> 04:49:06,800
Speaker 1: just makes me think. Now when I when I look

5750
04:49:06,800 --> 04:49:08,320
Speaker 1: at this guy tonight, I'll sit down and look at

5751
04:49:08,360 --> 04:49:10,800
Speaker 1: this board again to get ready for tomorrow, and I'll

5752
04:49:10,840 --> 04:49:14,400
Speaker 1: have five tight ends that'll be you know, next available guy.

5753
04:49:14,440 --> 04:49:18,120
Speaker 1: Here's here's the Steelers pick with the one second thick

5754
04:49:18,280 --> 04:49:23,960
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Pittsburgh Steelers select Alex Highsmith,

5755
04:49:24,640 --> 04:49:29,800
Speaker 1: linebacker Charlotte. I like that pick a lot. Actually ESPN

5756
04:49:29,960 --> 04:49:33,000
Speaker 1: tipped that pick. They showed Alex hi Smith. They showed

5757
04:49:33,080 --> 04:49:39,040
Speaker 1: his little package before like two minutes ago. Oh stop it, Cavanaugh,

5758
04:49:39,120 --> 04:49:45,520
Speaker 1: come on. They showed his graphic God, the graphics. Oh okay, okay,

5759
04:49:45,640 --> 04:49:51,200
Speaker 1: do you guys, you guys suck man? Alex Highsmith, good player?

5760
04:49:51,640 --> 04:49:55,040
Speaker 1: Um And like, hey, if Dabbos Sweeney calls you the

5761
04:49:55,080 --> 04:49:58,120
Speaker 1: best player we've seen all year. That's pretty good and

5762
04:49:58,240 --> 04:50:01,600
Speaker 1: that's what that Bosweeney did with that. After they played

5763
04:50:01,680 --> 04:50:03,520
Speaker 1: Charlotte and it wasn't much of a contest, But Alex

5764
04:50:03,600 --> 04:50:07,680
Speaker 1: Highsmith as a really talented guy, and he really wasn't

5765
04:50:07,720 --> 04:50:10,239
Speaker 1: on the radar because he was more of an interior

5766
04:50:10,320 --> 04:50:12,399
Speaker 1: player the way they the way they lined him up.

5767
04:50:12,440 --> 04:50:14,960
Speaker 1: But new coaching staff comes in, they put him outside,

5768
04:50:15,040 --> 04:50:17,400
Speaker 1: let him just pin his ears back and go and

5769
04:50:17,880 --> 04:50:21,040
Speaker 1: he was one of the most productive backfield guys this year.

5770
04:50:22,040 --> 04:50:24,080
Speaker 1: He was top five in the FBS and tackles for

5771
04:50:24,200 --> 04:50:27,240
Speaker 1: loss and sacks. So you don't do that without having

5772
04:50:27,280 --> 04:50:29,720
Speaker 1: a little bit of juice to rush off the edge. Yeah,

5773
04:50:29,759 --> 04:50:32,040
Speaker 1: the best film to watch with him was that Clemson tape.

5774
04:50:32,040 --> 04:50:34,800
Speaker 1: You're right, Dane and this guy, I mean, he is

5775
04:50:35,000 --> 04:50:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he has that start stop quickness, but

5776
04:50:38,240 --> 04:50:40,120
Speaker 1: once he does get you know, the quickness is good,

5777
04:50:40,160 --> 04:50:41,840
Speaker 1: but it's not that stuck when if you kind of

5778
04:50:41,880 --> 04:50:43,400
Speaker 1: if you could hold him. At Clemson, we're kind of

5779
04:50:43,440 --> 04:50:45,400
Speaker 1: bumping him around a little bit, and you know he

5780
04:50:45,560 --> 04:50:46,800
Speaker 1: was he was having a little bit of trouble to

5781
04:50:46,840 --> 04:50:49,440
Speaker 1: get going again. But I'll tell you what though made

5782
04:50:49,560 --> 04:50:51,919
Speaker 1: he is one of those guys that when he could

5783
04:50:51,960 --> 04:50:54,120
Speaker 1: work to the inside or he could play on the move,

5784
04:50:54,680 --> 04:50:57,160
Speaker 1: that's where that's where I think he does some good.

5785
04:50:57,200 --> 04:50:59,200
Speaker 1: He does have some pass rush moves. I think his

5786
04:50:59,280 --> 04:51:01,640
Speaker 1: techniques need to get a little bit better. But but

5787
04:51:01,720 --> 04:51:04,040
Speaker 1: I felt like though overall though, there's a lot to

5788
04:51:04,120 --> 04:51:06,840
Speaker 1: work with him when it comes to the type of

5789
04:51:06,919 --> 04:51:09,759
Speaker 1: player he is. I think the strength needs to improve

5790
04:51:09,800 --> 04:51:12,399
Speaker 1: a little bit though with him. But you're right Van

5791
04:51:12,440 --> 04:51:14,720
Speaker 1: about watching the Clemson tape. That's at least gives you

5792
04:51:14,720 --> 04:51:16,960
Speaker 1: an idea of some of the type of competition will

5793
04:51:17,000 --> 04:51:19,919
Speaker 1: have to play. And I like stories like that as well.

5794
04:51:20,000 --> 04:51:22,600
Speaker 1: With whenever you talk about a guy who walked on

5795
04:51:23,120 --> 04:51:26,000
Speaker 1: at Charlotte, a Conference USA school and he was a

5796
04:51:26,120 --> 04:51:28,880
Speaker 1: walk on because he didn't receive any FBS offers, and

5797
04:51:29,040 --> 04:51:30,880
Speaker 1: he goes on Day two of the NFL Draft. That's

5798
04:51:30,880 --> 04:51:33,760
Speaker 1: a cool story for anybody out there, and it just

5799
04:51:33,960 --> 04:51:39,160
Speaker 1: kind of a personal aspect of it. You're gonna be

5800
04:51:39,200 --> 04:51:44,240
Speaker 1: okay because Team Davis Gaither's still on the board. Davion Taylor,

5801
04:51:44,320 --> 04:51:47,680
Speaker 1: the Colorado linebacker who played a grand total of one

5802
04:51:47,800 --> 04:51:52,079
Speaker 1: high school football games. The Scouting Report six foot, two

5803
04:51:52,200 --> 04:51:54,399
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight runs like the wind. You can

5804
04:51:54,480 --> 04:51:56,719
Speaker 1: tell that he hasn't played a ton of football because

5805
04:51:56,800 --> 04:52:00,680
Speaker 1: you can see that the keys and the reading isn't

5806
04:52:00,759 --> 04:52:02,840
Speaker 1: always what you would want it to be. But when

5807
04:52:02,880 --> 04:52:05,239
Speaker 1: he gets it right, holy cow, he can get aggressive.

5808
04:52:05,320 --> 04:52:07,800
Speaker 1: He can fly sideline the sideline. He's a four four guy.

5809
04:52:07,880 --> 04:52:10,919
Speaker 1: I think dave On Taylor is my favorite developmental linebacker

5810
04:52:10,960 --> 04:52:13,800
Speaker 1: in this class. I love him. I love him, and

5811
04:52:13,960 --> 04:52:16,400
Speaker 1: he's gone. I'll tell you what. You know this this guy,

5812
04:52:16,880 --> 04:52:19,440
Speaker 1: Jeff's right about him. It's funny. They play him like

5813
04:52:19,640 --> 04:52:22,000
Speaker 1: wide and kind of detached. They'll play him in the slide.

5814
04:52:22,000 --> 04:52:24,680
Speaker 1: Was watching the Nebraska game and he'll cover in the slot.

5815
04:52:24,759 --> 04:52:27,960
Speaker 1: He can cover some ground though too. When he's got

5816
04:52:28,080 --> 04:52:31,200
Speaker 1: legit speed, he really attacks the ball when given the opportunity.

5817
04:52:31,759 --> 04:52:33,640
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I think he's a good tackler when

5818
04:52:33,640 --> 04:52:35,280
Speaker 1: he gets the chance to bring the guy down there.

5819
04:52:35,360 --> 04:52:37,920
Speaker 1: There's some he'll put his body in some crazy positions

5820
04:52:38,000 --> 04:52:40,440
Speaker 1: to make tackles. I thought he needed maybe a little

5821
04:52:40,440 --> 04:52:43,160
Speaker 1: bit balanced, a bit of balance and body control. But man,

5822
04:52:43,240 --> 04:52:45,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, though, there's there's some times out

5823
04:52:45,800 --> 04:52:48,280
Speaker 1: there where he didn't know what he's doing. You can

5824
04:52:48,320 --> 04:52:50,760
Speaker 1: watch him and you're like, you're like, man, he's like

5825
04:52:50,840 --> 04:52:52,880
Speaker 1: he's kind of looking around and he's like, oh, I

5826
04:52:52,960 --> 04:52:54,880
Speaker 1: need to get the ball. He's running to get the ball.

5827
04:52:55,000 --> 04:52:58,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a he's like, Muse is going to

5828
04:52:58,120 --> 04:53:00,640
Speaker 1: be a special teams guy initially. This this guy's the

5829
04:53:00,720 --> 04:53:03,480
Speaker 1: same way. I mean, check checked the special team snaps

5830
04:53:03,480 --> 04:53:05,400
Speaker 1: for this cat. He ran a four four nine at

5831
04:53:05,440 --> 04:53:08,640
Speaker 1: the combine. Then he ran a four three. Yeah, so

5832
04:53:08,919 --> 04:53:12,120
Speaker 1: yeah it actually happened. Yeah, absolutely, And one of the

5833
04:53:12,200 --> 04:53:16,239
Speaker 1: best stories. Didn't play in high school because of religious reasons,

5834
04:53:16,360 --> 04:53:20,919
Speaker 1: so you know, it's just fascinating the path that he took. Um,

5835
04:53:21,320 --> 04:53:23,280
Speaker 1: he practiced, he was part of the team, just never

5836
04:53:23,320 --> 04:53:25,640
Speaker 1: played in a game. He played in one game, and

5837
04:53:25,680 --> 04:53:27,840
Speaker 1: it's because they started early enough on a Friday, but

5838
04:53:28,560 --> 04:53:31,760
Speaker 1: went to Juco route went then went to Colorado. But

5839
04:53:31,840 --> 04:53:33,879
Speaker 1: like you said, a player where you can tell he's

5840
04:53:33,919 --> 04:53:36,680
Speaker 1: inexperience with the way he plays. The instincts aren't quite

5841
04:53:36,720 --> 04:53:39,440
Speaker 1: there yet, but the speed sure is. And he ran

5842
04:53:39,520 --> 04:53:42,920
Speaker 1: track at Colorado. So not surprised to see him go

5843
04:53:42,960 --> 04:53:45,360
Speaker 1: at this point a third round rams at one oh four.

5844
04:53:46,360 --> 04:53:53,880
Speaker 1: Take Terrell bone, no, Utah, it's kind of crazy that

5845
04:53:53,960 --> 04:53:56,240
Speaker 1: he lasted all the way to one oh four. We

5846
04:53:56,320 --> 04:53:58,600
Speaker 1: need to figure that out. Boys, That's all right, Well

5847
04:53:58,640 --> 04:54:00,200
Speaker 1: we need to figure out is what's going on with

5848
04:54:00,280 --> 04:54:02,400
Speaker 1: a Keem Davis Gaither and hope it keeps going on

5849
04:54:02,600 --> 04:54:05,840
Speaker 1: for about twenty more picks, twenty to twenty five more pick. Well,

5850
04:54:05,880 --> 04:54:07,800
Speaker 1: you only got two left in the round, and you

5851
04:54:07,919 --> 04:54:13,120
Speaker 1: still got Curtis Weaver on the board, still got all

5852
04:54:13,160 --> 04:54:15,480
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, Lewis, if you want to take an injury

5853
04:54:15,560 --> 04:54:18,120
Speaker 1: risk in the fourth round, I know we don't. We

5854
04:54:18,160 --> 04:54:19,920
Speaker 1: haven't talked a lot of tackles, at least since the

5855
04:54:20,040 --> 04:54:22,480
Speaker 1: first But what about Prince Tega here? I mean, Prince

5856
04:54:22,520 --> 04:54:24,800
Speaker 1: Tega has been on the board for quite a while.

5857
04:54:24,960 --> 04:54:27,560
Speaker 1: I actually liked the Charles kid from Lshoe a little bit.

5858
04:54:27,800 --> 04:54:30,960
Speaker 1: And that's not because it's my school. Damn, the Kansas Kid.

5859
04:54:31,000 --> 04:54:34,440
Speaker 1: How do you pronounced the Kansas Kid's last name? Identity? Yeah,

5860
04:54:34,480 --> 04:54:37,800
Speaker 1: I have Charles the Prince and identity kind of in

5861
04:54:37,880 --> 04:54:40,040
Speaker 1: that little pocket. Prince is a real prince. He is

5862
04:54:40,040 --> 04:54:42,960
Speaker 1: a real prince. Yeah yeah, But I mean I kind

5863
04:54:43,000 --> 04:54:45,200
Speaker 1: of got all those guys in that in that fourth

5864
04:54:45,320 --> 04:54:47,720
Speaker 1: round pocket there, guys, is where I'm looking at those Cats.

5865
04:54:48,000 --> 04:54:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm curious about Charles. Uh you know he was in

5866
04:54:51,080 --> 04:54:53,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, more you dig the worst you got, And

5867
04:54:53,919 --> 04:54:57,880
Speaker 1: I just I don't know this, but I wonder if

5868
04:54:57,919 --> 04:55:00,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna be sitting here tomorrow saying, oh man, he's

5869
04:55:00,720 --> 04:55:03,960
Speaker 1: still there, He's still there. I wonder why. So yeah,

5870
04:55:04,000 --> 04:55:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't think we wonder why. No, Well, you're you're right,

5871
04:55:06,840 --> 04:55:09,960
Speaker 1: you're right, we know and we know why. Yeah. But

5872
04:55:10,120 --> 04:55:13,000
Speaker 1: I think you know, every year there's a guy who

5873
04:55:13,160 --> 04:55:15,480
Speaker 1: is the best available for like two hours. You know

5874
04:55:15,560 --> 04:55:17,360
Speaker 1: it was, I mean it was probably just Terrell Burgess

5875
04:55:17,480 --> 04:55:20,520
Speaker 1: just now, and I think you know, Sadiq Charles could

5876
04:55:20,560 --> 04:55:24,280
Speaker 1: be that guy tomorrow. One thing that is pretty uh,

5877
04:55:25,680 --> 04:55:29,560
Speaker 1: pretty encouraging in terms of some of these uh these

5878
04:55:29,640 --> 04:55:32,160
Speaker 1: picks laid in this round. There's a lot of interior

5879
04:55:32,280 --> 04:55:34,720
Speaker 1: offensive line talent that's gonna be there in the fourth

5880
04:55:34,840 --> 04:55:38,280
Speaker 1: round if the Cowboys want to address that position, I

5881
04:55:38,360 --> 04:55:40,360
Speaker 1: mean before the I mean we got two picks left,

5882
04:55:41,080 --> 04:55:43,400
Speaker 1: do we kind of want to reset our expectations for

5883
04:55:43,480 --> 04:55:45,400
Speaker 1: what we're looking at a pick one twenty three. I

5884
04:55:45,440 --> 04:55:48,000
Speaker 1: think that's a good idea, like to trade back into

5885
04:55:48,080 --> 04:55:52,640
Speaker 1: one oh five or one oh six, just make it interesting. Yeah,

5886
04:55:52,720 --> 04:55:55,000
Speaker 1: the Saints have got The Saints just did that. Yeah, yeah,

5887
04:55:55,080 --> 04:55:57,560
Speaker 1: the Saints are back into this thing. Go get a

5888
04:55:57,640 --> 04:56:00,520
Speaker 1: Keem Davis Gaither, thank you. I don't think it would

5889
04:56:00,520 --> 04:56:02,440
Speaker 1: be a linebacker. I think it would be a tight end.

5890
04:56:02,800 --> 04:56:04,759
Speaker 1: Why why would you not try and go get one

5891
04:56:04,759 --> 04:56:07,320
Speaker 1: of those guys? I don't know if it's it's one

5892
04:56:07,360 --> 04:56:10,960
Speaker 1: of the Bryants or if it's uh An Albert o'quebanam,

5893
04:56:11,240 --> 04:56:14,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who. Why would you not try and

5894
04:56:14,759 --> 04:56:20,160
Speaker 1: hang out? Vikings have traded the one fifth pick to

5895
04:56:20,280 --> 04:56:23,800
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saint. With the one hundred and fifth

5896
04:56:23,880 --> 04:56:27,720
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the New Orleans

5897
04:56:27,800 --> 04:56:32,800
Speaker 1: Saints select Adam Troutman tight end day Grol Kyle. I

5898
04:56:32,919 --> 04:56:35,240
Speaker 1: didn't know that, I promise. I was just trying to

5899
04:56:35,240 --> 04:56:37,880
Speaker 1: bring up a talking point. Sure you didn't. I didn't

5900
04:56:38,600 --> 04:56:41,360
Speaker 1: all have on my screen. We all have Twitter. My

5901
04:56:41,480 --> 04:56:44,280
Speaker 1: Twitter's not up, I promise. Oh you're a liar. I'm not,

5902
04:56:44,960 --> 04:56:47,280
Speaker 1: but early, I was trying to bring it up. Let's

5903
04:56:47,280 --> 04:56:49,520
Speaker 1: go something real quick. This was Dane Brugler's number one

5904
04:56:49,600 --> 04:56:54,000
Speaker 1: tight end, Dane firemout uh a guy, there's a quarterback.

5905
04:56:54,080 --> 04:56:55,840
Speaker 1: His entire life, and then he goes to Dayton and

5906
04:56:55,960 --> 04:56:58,120
Speaker 1: he says, hey, I just want to play, so let

5907
04:56:58,160 --> 04:57:01,520
Speaker 1: me move to tight end. First time he ever caught

5908
04:57:01,560 --> 04:57:03,520
Speaker 1: a pass as the ret refreshman was the first time

5909
04:57:03,560 --> 04:57:04,840
Speaker 1: in his life he ever caught a pass in a

5910
04:57:04,880 --> 04:57:08,960
Speaker 1: football game. So I'm surprised he's lasted outside the top

5911
04:57:09,000 --> 04:57:12,440
Speaker 1: one hundred picks. But the competitiveness that he offers. Not

5912
04:57:13,000 --> 04:57:16,200
Speaker 1: a speed guy, but you see the route running, you

5913
04:57:16,280 --> 04:57:18,680
Speaker 1: see a guy that's able to attack the catch point.

5914
04:57:19,120 --> 04:57:21,280
Speaker 1: And what I loved most after I got done talking

5915
04:57:21,360 --> 04:57:24,399
Speaker 1: with him, was just the competitiveness that he has. I mean,

5916
04:57:24,480 --> 04:57:27,520
Speaker 1: he is a guy that has driven and so typical.

5917
04:57:27,800 --> 04:57:29,760
Speaker 1: You know, we've mentioned this with the Ravens and with

5918
04:57:29,840 --> 04:57:32,640
Speaker 1: some other teams, but the Saints seemed to find really

5919
04:57:32,720 --> 04:57:36,079
Speaker 1: good players in rounds two, three, and four, and they

5920
04:57:36,160 --> 04:57:40,000
Speaker 1: did it again. Here. You see an opportunity, you go

5921
04:57:40,120 --> 04:57:41,520
Speaker 1: up and try and grab a guy that could help

5922
04:57:41,560 --> 04:57:44,640
Speaker 1: you out, and the Saints needed to tie end. Yeah,

5923
04:57:44,720 --> 04:57:47,120
Speaker 1: that and that I just wondered. I thought this run

5924
04:57:47,200 --> 04:57:49,600
Speaker 1: would come a lot earlier. With these sides. There's a

5925
04:57:49,680 --> 04:57:52,320
Speaker 1: couple that have just flat that I I didn't think

5926
04:57:52,360 --> 04:57:53,919
Speaker 1: we're as good as the guys were. You know, we're

5927
04:57:53,960 --> 04:57:56,640
Speaker 1: talking about with like I said, we mentioned Troutman, the

5928
04:57:56,800 --> 04:58:00,360
Speaker 1: two Bryants, Albertau. I just you know, the hot Hopkins

5929
04:58:00,480 --> 04:58:03,640
Speaker 1: kid is another guy, Parkinson from Stanford. I mean, there's

5930
04:58:03,640 --> 04:58:07,440
Speaker 1: just a pocket of guys there that are really, really

5931
04:58:07,520 --> 04:58:10,160
Speaker 1: good players, and it's just it's surprising me that it

5932
04:58:10,320 --> 04:58:13,680
Speaker 1: took this long for for Troutman to go and real quick.

5933
04:58:13,960 --> 04:58:15,840
Speaker 1: You know, since we were taught, did you you guys

5934
04:58:15,880 --> 04:58:19,400
Speaker 1: see the terms of this thing, this trade? So we

5935
04:58:19,520 --> 04:58:21,039
Speaker 1: were talking about, you know, if you want to get

5936
04:58:21,120 --> 04:58:23,040
Speaker 1: back in there, Jeff, be careful what you wish for.

5937
04:58:23,200 --> 04:58:25,960
Speaker 1: Because the Saints needed four picks to get this done.

5938
04:58:26,080 --> 04:58:29,560
Speaker 1: They gave up one thirty one, thirty one, sixty nine,

5939
04:58:29,680 --> 04:58:32,120
Speaker 1: two oh three, and two forty four. So I don't

5940
04:58:32,120 --> 04:58:35,000
Speaker 1: know the Saints whole draft, but that's I mean, it

5941
04:58:35,280 --> 04:58:37,600
Speaker 1: sounds like they're done picking to get this guy. So

5942
04:58:38,400 --> 04:58:40,759
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you wanted to go get your linebacker,

5943
04:58:41,520 --> 04:58:43,680
Speaker 1: you probably have to give up everything you've got tomorrow

5944
04:58:43,720 --> 04:58:45,320
Speaker 1: to do. We just hang out see if that was

5945
04:58:45,400 --> 04:58:48,880
Speaker 1: to us, and then we use quality over quantity. I

5946
04:58:49,000 --> 04:58:51,040
Speaker 1: think they are done. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's it.

5947
04:58:51,600 --> 04:58:53,320
Speaker 1: I don't hate. I mean, if the Saints feel like

5948
04:58:53,400 --> 04:58:55,480
Speaker 1: that's their guy, I don't hate the decision, because what

5949
04:58:55,600 --> 04:58:57,400
Speaker 1: are the odds you're gonna just hit home runs with

5950
04:58:57,440 --> 04:59:02,400
Speaker 1: those pass organizations? Done it before, right, Yeah? Just go yeah? Well,

5951
04:59:02,640 --> 04:59:05,400
Speaker 1: oh god, the Ricky Williams trade and getting address or whatever.

5952
04:59:05,440 --> 04:59:08,560
Speaker 1: Which one word dress was it Ricky or yeah, ricky

5953
04:59:08,600 --> 04:59:11,800
Speaker 1: word dress. If you feel like he's the guy, I say,

5954
04:59:11,880 --> 04:59:14,080
Speaker 1: do it, as long as you're comfortable being done for

5955
04:59:14,160 --> 04:59:18,760
Speaker 1: the weekend. Well, they've traded next year's one before to

5956
04:59:18,840 --> 04:59:21,200
Speaker 1: do stuff. You know, the Saints, they're not afraid to trade.

5957
04:59:23,120 --> 04:59:25,280
Speaker 1: The Saints are in a unique spot where they are

5958
04:59:25,400 --> 04:59:27,960
Speaker 1: really I mean, it's it's it's now. Should have been

5959
04:59:27,960 --> 04:59:29,600
Speaker 1: the super Bowl the last two years, That's what. That's

5960
04:59:29,600 --> 04:59:31,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's now or never. You got maybe

5961
04:59:31,560 --> 04:59:35,720
Speaker 1: two years to win a championship with Breeze maybe, Well,

5962
04:59:36,120 --> 04:59:39,239
Speaker 1: they're operating on a different timeline than most NFL teams.

5963
04:59:39,440 --> 04:59:41,919
Speaker 1: You can also just throw in the factor of who's

5964
04:59:41,919 --> 04:59:44,199
Speaker 1: had a better third round. They pick up Zach Bond

5965
04:59:44,360 --> 04:59:46,759
Speaker 1: and Adam Troutman in the third round alone, and then

5966
04:59:46,800 --> 04:59:48,800
Speaker 1: you add Caesar Ruise in the first as well. I mean,

5967
04:59:48,840 --> 04:59:50,600
Speaker 1: that's a pretty solid draft, even if you call it

5968
04:59:50,680 --> 04:59:54,480
Speaker 1: quits there. So yeah, the Vitings have thirteen picks tomorrow.

5969
04:59:54,919 --> 04:59:58,280
Speaker 1: Good god, Yeah that's true. So we're just gonna be

5970
04:59:58,440 --> 05:00:01,160
Speaker 1: here and we're gonna be talking about Spielman every other Well,

5971
05:00:01,160 --> 05:00:03,680
Speaker 1: here's the final pick of the final pick of the round.

5972
05:00:03,800 --> 05:00:07,360
Speaker 1: We go. Here we go with the pick in the

5973
05:00:07,520 --> 05:00:12,480
Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL Draft the Baltimore Ravens like Kyrie Phillips

5974
05:00:13,280 --> 05:00:20,600
Speaker 1: guard Mississippi State. There is irrelevant of Day two hiree Phillips.

5975
05:00:22,000 --> 05:00:24,240
Speaker 1: That's another guy I had in that article of guys

5976
05:00:24,280 --> 05:00:28,559
Speaker 1: who could potentially replace Travis Frederick late in the draft.

5977
05:00:28,880 --> 05:00:32,160
Speaker 1: That was another offensive guard that could potentially fill that role.

5978
05:00:33,320 --> 05:00:37,480
Speaker 1: Anything else on him? Dane Uh massive, dude, surprise they

5979
05:00:37,480 --> 05:00:39,080
Speaker 1: announced him as a guard. I thought, I mean, because

5980
05:00:39,080 --> 05:00:41,160
Speaker 1: he played love tackle this past year from Mississippi State.

5981
05:00:41,240 --> 05:00:43,640
Speaker 1: I think he can play tackle. UM six five, three

5982
05:00:43,800 --> 05:00:47,160
Speaker 1: thirty one uh over thirty five inch arms. Not a

5983
05:00:47,280 --> 05:00:50,759
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna move all that well, but uh, he's

5984
05:00:50,800 --> 05:00:53,480
Speaker 1: going to Uh he's gonna once he gets his hands

5985
05:00:53,520 --> 05:00:55,600
Speaker 1: on you, he's gonna control you, drive you off the screen.

5986
05:00:55,759 --> 05:00:58,640
Speaker 1: So uh, to me, I think he's a tackle, but

5987
05:00:58,680 --> 05:01:00,760
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how the Raven use him. Yeah,

5988
05:01:00,800 --> 05:01:02,720
Speaker 1: this is a guy I haven't said this. I went

5989
05:01:02,800 --> 05:01:05,240
Speaker 1: back and I go in the tradition of big Mississippi

5990
05:01:05,280 --> 05:01:09,199
Speaker 1: State offensive lineman, and I went Robert Hicks, Gabe Jackson,

5991
05:01:09,400 --> 05:01:12,880
Speaker 1: pork chopped Womack. You know, here's another one, this guy. Yeah,

5992
05:01:12,960 --> 05:01:16,160
Speaker 1: here's the guy three hundred over thirty pounds. He uses

5993
05:01:16,240 --> 05:01:18,840
Speaker 1: his mask to his advantage when it comes to creating holes,

5994
05:01:19,080 --> 05:01:20,960
Speaker 1: and once he gets that big body going, he can

5995
05:01:21,000 --> 05:01:24,359
Speaker 1: cause some problems. So he's a hard guy for defenders

5996
05:01:24,400 --> 05:01:26,440
Speaker 1: to do with due to his size. You know, he's

5997
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Speaker 1: the one pushing folks around. He's got some power in

5998
05:01:28,560 --> 05:01:30,720
Speaker 1: his hands. I think when he hits the defenders there's

5999
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Speaker 1: some shock. But he has to be careful because he

6000
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Speaker 1: does become over extended. He's a wastebender at times. I

6001
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Speaker 1: would not call him with I don't think he has

6002
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Speaker 1: nifty feet at all, So he's not going to press

6003
05:01:40,840 --> 05:01:42,800
Speaker 1: you with that lateral slide or things that you look

6004
05:01:42,840 --> 05:01:45,080
Speaker 1: with those those offensive lineman he was. It was a

6005
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Speaker 1: Juco kid that has put himself in position to be

6006
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Speaker 1: drafted and here he is. He's been drafted by the

6007
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. He had bottom three numbers in the tackle

6008
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Speaker 1: position and both the broad jump and then the shuttle

6009
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Speaker 1: as well, So it didn't have a great combine at

6010
05:02:00,919 --> 05:02:04,640
Speaker 1: five three, seven forty and then a twenty five inch vertical. Now,

6011
05:02:04,680 --> 05:02:06,600
Speaker 1: I know, in the third round you're still just looking

6012
05:02:06,680 --> 05:02:11,240
Speaker 1: for projections over the combine numbers, but at least there

6013
05:02:11,280 --> 05:02:15,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily anything to write home about. Now, kind

6014
05:02:15,800 --> 05:02:18,520
Speaker 1: of going back to the conversation that Dave was having

6015
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Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, where does this put us? I mean,

6016
05:02:21,160 --> 05:02:23,000
Speaker 1: we're at the end of the third round. You're looking

6017
05:02:23,120 --> 05:02:26,680
Speaker 1: forward to pick one twenty three, or excuse me, to

6018
05:02:26,759 --> 05:02:29,480
Speaker 1: the fourth round pick here for the Cowboys at one thirteen.

6019
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Speaker 1: What are we thinking here? Man? I'm I'm just now.

6020
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Speaker 1: You know, it kind of gets away from you when

6021
05:02:36,240 --> 05:02:39,240
Speaker 1: the picks start flying, but you kind of reset everything.

6022
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Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of names that intrigue me,

6023
05:02:42,840 --> 05:02:44,480
Speaker 1: and I mean the later you go in the draft,

6024
05:02:44,520 --> 05:02:46,520
Speaker 1: the harder it is to know how the Cowboys feel.

6025
05:02:46,680 --> 05:02:50,239
Speaker 1: But both of the Bryants are still there at tight end.

6026
05:02:50,520 --> 05:02:56,640
Speaker 1: You got Jeff skuy Akeem Davis Gaither, Carol Lewis Curtis Weaver. Yeah,

6027
05:02:56,720 --> 05:03:01,920
Speaker 1: both so there. Robertson the corner, wasn't he? Yeah, troll

6028
05:03:02,000 --> 05:03:04,440
Speaker 1: Lewis was picked. Well, let me take him out of

6029
05:03:04,480 --> 05:03:07,800
Speaker 1: the draft pool. Then Brian's guy, James Lynch is still there,

6030
05:03:08,000 --> 05:03:13,240
Speaker 1: Yes he is. kJ Hill is still there, Tyler surprising Meek.

6031
05:03:13,320 --> 05:03:16,640
Speaker 1: Robertson's still around. Yeah, he tweeted about it. He's gonna

6032
05:03:16,680 --> 05:03:19,840
Speaker 1: try really hard. Is that an injury thing, Dane, it's

6033
05:03:19,840 --> 05:03:22,720
Speaker 1: a short thing. He had the groin injury. But as

6034
05:03:22,800 --> 05:03:26,759
Speaker 1: far as I know, it's more size related than anything. Shoot,

6035
05:03:26,800 --> 05:03:30,800
Speaker 1: how about my guy Troy Pride junior him? Well, if

6036
05:03:30,800 --> 05:03:32,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about a corner with some link to him,

6037
05:03:33,080 --> 05:03:35,480
Speaker 1: damn you Dane. Oh, I so agree with your man.

6038
05:03:35,640 --> 05:03:37,360
Speaker 1: And I was wondering if I was alone on the

6039
05:03:37,520 --> 05:03:40,840
Speaker 1: Troy Pride Junior man. What about what about Robinson from

6040
05:03:41,080 --> 05:03:45,399
Speaker 1: is it from Tulsa? Yeah? Rot, Where's Kevin Turner when

6041
05:03:45,440 --> 05:03:48,400
Speaker 1: we need good play? Yeah? I mean that's what I'm saying. Though,

6042
05:03:48,440 --> 05:03:50,840
Speaker 1: if you're you know, the guys were talking about like

6043
05:03:51,040 --> 05:03:54,840
Speaker 1: Holmes from UCLA or Robertson, those are shorter guys, you know,

6044
05:03:54,960 --> 05:03:56,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we're kind of at that point right now,

6045
05:03:56,480 --> 05:03:58,280
Speaker 1: and I think there's still safeties on the board that

6046
05:03:58,320 --> 05:04:02,039
Speaker 1: could help the kill Boys. But you like Josiah Josiah Scott,

6047
05:04:02,120 --> 05:04:04,160
Speaker 1: Josiah Scott, but not I mean no, I mean not

6048
05:04:04,240 --> 05:04:06,400
Speaker 1: in the top three rounds. He is one of the

6049
05:04:06,520 --> 05:04:08,920
Speaker 1: undersized corners that I do like. But I think it

6050
05:04:09,080 --> 05:04:14,079
Speaker 1: shapes up still with Geno Stone, Iowa safety, Kenny Robinson,

6051
05:04:14,160 --> 05:04:20,880
Speaker 1: the West Virginia Joint Louis Battlehawk Jr. Reid M. Cavan Wallace.

6052
05:04:21,040 --> 05:04:23,320
Speaker 1: I think you still got safeties that could like right now.

6053
05:04:23,400 --> 05:04:26,600
Speaker 1: What we're what you're looking for is a combination of things,

6054
05:04:26,720 --> 05:04:29,680
Speaker 1: right a guy that could make the team. We're going

6055
05:04:29,720 --> 05:04:31,240
Speaker 1: in to day three. We're looking for a guy that

6056
05:04:31,320 --> 05:04:34,600
Speaker 1: could make the team. We're looking for traits. Maybe you're

6057
05:04:34,640 --> 05:04:38,080
Speaker 1: looking for special teamers. So yeah, I still think they've

6058
05:04:38,120 --> 05:04:40,280
Speaker 1: got they've got some nice players to pick from, and

6059
05:04:40,480 --> 05:04:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean pick one, Sorry Kyle, but I think there's

6060
05:04:44,440 --> 05:04:46,920
Speaker 1: still potential here for somebody who can help you in

6061
05:04:47,040 --> 05:04:49,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and pick at pick one twenty three, depending

6062
05:04:49,960 --> 05:04:53,160
Speaker 1: on what you do with it. Yeah, agreed, And I

6063
05:04:53,280 --> 05:04:57,400
Speaker 1: think Edge Rusher is still a possibility. Kalee Kareem, who

6064
05:04:57,480 --> 05:04:59,520
Speaker 1: hasn't been mentioned yet out of Notre Dame. He's a

6065
05:04:59,560 --> 05:05:01,440
Speaker 1: guy that I I kind of tabbed early as one

6066
05:05:01,480 --> 05:05:04,800
Speaker 1: of those mid day maybe three day three guys that

6067
05:05:05,160 --> 05:05:07,480
Speaker 1: I would like steel. I think he would be a

6068
05:05:07,520 --> 05:05:11,800
Speaker 1: steel in the fourth round. Absolutely, And I think you're

6069
05:05:11,880 --> 05:05:15,040
Speaker 1: looking at some receivers that are there. I know you

6070
05:05:15,160 --> 05:05:18,520
Speaker 1: don't necessarily need receiver, but kJ Hill a guy that

6071
05:05:18,600 --> 05:05:20,720
Speaker 1: I know, Dave, you are really high. He makes it

6072
05:05:20,800 --> 05:05:23,400
Speaker 1: to day three, I would I mean, I don't know when,

6073
05:05:23,600 --> 05:05:26,080
Speaker 1: when or where he would play, but I'd love to

6074
05:05:26,160 --> 05:05:29,040
Speaker 1: have him. Lucky Foe two still on the board, Darnay

6075
05:05:29,160 --> 05:05:33,399
Speaker 1: Holmes from UCLA still on the board. There's some names here, guys.

6076
05:05:33,640 --> 05:05:38,600
Speaker 1: Ye A little surprised that, uh, the quarterbacks Jacob Base

6077
05:05:38,680 --> 05:05:41,120
Speaker 1: and Jake from Learn taken the day and that was

6078
05:05:41,200 --> 05:05:43,560
Speaker 1: hurts make him make it to the fifth something like

6079
05:05:43,680 --> 05:05:45,720
Speaker 1: we've always and guys, we've all been together doing this

6080
05:05:45,800 --> 05:05:48,480
Speaker 1: for a while, so you understand tomorrow, like say, scouts

6081
05:05:48,600 --> 05:05:51,360
Speaker 1: and front offices, they're not sitting in their war rooms,

6082
05:05:51,400 --> 05:05:54,120
Speaker 1: but they've seen their board. And I have a feeling

6083
05:05:54,160 --> 05:05:56,440
Speaker 1: tomorrow when we get back, we're gonna see those guys

6084
05:05:56,480 --> 05:05:59,400
Speaker 1: those things with those picks. Everyone'll say I got value here,

6085
05:05:59,400 --> 05:06:00,840
Speaker 1: I got value, I get value here, and they're just

6086
05:06:00,840 --> 05:06:02,320
Speaker 1: gonna go down that board and they're gonna pick these

6087
05:06:02,360 --> 05:06:04,559
Speaker 1: guys and all these names that we're talking about right

6088
05:06:04,600 --> 05:06:07,039
Speaker 1: now are gonna be those guys that are taken early.

6089
05:06:07,400 --> 05:06:09,560
Speaker 1: I trust me that. It's like, Wow, I got a

6090
05:06:09,560 --> 05:06:11,400
Speaker 1: third round grade on this guy, I gotta take him now.

6091
05:06:11,759 --> 05:06:13,880
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of teams sitting around with

6092
05:06:13,960 --> 05:06:15,960
Speaker 1: third round grades on guys when we get to this

6093
05:06:16,040 --> 05:06:17,879
Speaker 1: fourth round and they're just gonna they're gonna pick them

6094
05:06:17,919 --> 05:06:20,640
Speaker 1: off there as we get going tomorrow, first thing in

6095
05:06:20,680 --> 05:06:23,000
Speaker 1: the morning, let me let me if you're if you're

6096
05:06:23,040 --> 05:06:25,600
Speaker 1: with us at eleven oh seven or twelve oh seven,

6097
05:06:25,680 --> 05:06:27,880
Speaker 1: if you're in Dame, somewhere in the world, other around

6098
05:06:27,880 --> 05:06:30,880
Speaker 1: the world, appreciate thank you guys. If you're with it, yeah, absolutely,

6099
05:06:30,960 --> 05:06:32,480
Speaker 1: love you to death. We're thrilled you're here. But if

6100
05:06:32,520 --> 05:06:34,160
Speaker 1: you're with us right now, let me give you some

6101
05:06:34,320 --> 05:06:37,879
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, because what's gonna happen is Brian brought us,

6102
05:06:37,960 --> 05:06:40,280
Speaker 1: is going to log out of here and he's gonna

6103
05:06:40,320 --> 05:06:42,520
Speaker 1: go home, and on the drive home, he's gonna start

6104
05:06:42,600 --> 05:06:44,840
Speaker 1: pounding the hell out of that cell phone. Get ready.

6105
05:06:45,040 --> 05:06:48,520
Speaker 1: He's gonna make about thirty phone calls between now and

6106
05:06:48,680 --> 05:06:51,640
Speaker 1: ten am tomorrow, and he's gonna come in here. I

6107
05:06:51,720 --> 05:06:53,320
Speaker 1: mean we're not actually gonna be in the same room,

6108
05:06:53,400 --> 05:06:57,840
Speaker 1: but he's gonna log in with just the most ridiculous

6109
05:06:57,919 --> 05:07:00,520
Speaker 1: curveballs about what we should be expect at the top

6110
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Speaker 1: of the fourth. It happens every freaking year and it's

6111
05:07:05,000 --> 05:07:09,560
Speaker 1: very fun. I should tune in. I can't wait. Sometimes

6112
05:07:09,600 --> 05:07:11,759
Speaker 1: he comes in no one who certain team's gonna pick,

6113
05:07:11,880 --> 05:07:14,160
Speaker 1: and it ruins his whole day before the draft. Yeah start,

6114
05:07:14,280 --> 05:07:16,800
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like yeah, like last year. Yeah, it hurts.

6115
05:07:16,880 --> 05:07:19,320
Speaker 1: Uh huh. I take this way too seriously, like you guys.

6116
05:07:20,240 --> 05:07:22,800
Speaker 1: As we met at Brian gets gets it in his

6117
05:07:22,919 --> 05:07:25,000
Speaker 1: head that the pick might not be what he wants.

6118
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Speaker 1: I want to say one thing though, before we do

6119
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Speaker 1: close this. I know Kyle closes out here tonight. Though.

6120
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Speaker 1: I love being with you guys again. I'm sorry I

6121
05:07:32,240 --> 05:07:34,040
Speaker 1: missed you for all those draft shows. Jeff, you got

6122
05:07:34,120 --> 05:07:35,640
Speaker 1: everybody did a great job. Dang, it's great to have

6123
05:07:35,759 --> 05:07:38,920
Speaker 1: you back to man. When we signed out, I didn't

6124
05:07:38,960 --> 05:07:40,280
Speaker 1: know what was going to happen at the end. But

6125
05:07:40,759 --> 05:07:42,759
Speaker 1: maybe this is not goodbye because we got tomorrow. We're

6126
05:07:42,759 --> 05:07:44,440
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of fun. But it is nice

6127
05:07:44,480 --> 05:07:46,240
Speaker 1: to be able to work a draft with you guys again.

6128
05:07:46,520 --> 05:07:50,080
Speaker 1: It's it's one of the great joys of my career. Yeah,

6129
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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to tomorrow. Glad we got another day. Well,

6130
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Speaker 1: and I'll also add to that, Brian, this is the

6131
05:07:55,440 --> 05:07:57,600
Speaker 1: first time I've actually gotten to work with you there.

6132
05:07:57,880 --> 05:08:00,080
Speaker 1: We worked up behind the Saints back and forth, So

6133
05:08:00,560 --> 05:08:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's ecstatic for me. I grew up listening

6134
05:08:02,560 --> 05:08:06,320
Speaker 1: to you listening or going to uh maybe sounds or

6135
05:08:06,360 --> 05:08:09,000
Speaker 1: something like that. That's fair, that's fair. Well, it's the

6136
05:08:09,080 --> 05:08:11,759
Speaker 1: fact that I'm young is probably the better. I'll throw

6137
05:08:11,840 --> 05:08:14,160
Speaker 1: that in there. So but yeah, I will sign us

6138
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Speaker 1: off tonight. Jeff started things off on the one O

6139
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Speaker 1: five three the fans side. We will be back on

6140
05:08:18,759 --> 05:08:21,360
Speaker 1: the fan tomorrow. Jeff tell me ten am or no no, no, no,

6141
05:08:21,400 --> 05:08:24,600
Speaker 1: no at is it noon or is it ten right?

6142
05:08:25,520 --> 05:08:27,240
Speaker 1: We're I think I think Jeff and I got a

6143
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Speaker 1: pre pregame show and then you guys join on with us,

6144
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Speaker 1: so I know we start at ten am tomorrow. Ye

6145
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Speaker 1: see that was where I was consumers back and yeah,

6146
05:08:33,960 --> 05:08:36,280
Speaker 1: it happens every year to tradition like no other. The

6147
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Speaker 1: draft itself is at eleven, though, isn't it central? Eleven Central?

6148
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Speaker 1: So me and Jeff were gonna pregame this thing. We're

6149
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Speaker 1: gonna throw all these names out there and can confuse everybody.

6150
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Speaker 1: You guys are welcome, Yeah, Bill, free to jump off

6151
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Speaker 1: you want. H Well, we'll be a part of the

6152
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Speaker 1: one oh five three the fan draft coverage tomorrow will

6153
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Speaker 1: also be on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and when the

6154
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Speaker 1: Cowboys are picking, we will be on the social side

6155
05:08:58,640 --> 05:09:01,039
Speaker 1: of things too, So that is gonna do it here

6156
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Speaker 1: for Day two of the twenty twenty NFL Draft for

6157
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Speaker 1: Brian Bronness, for Dane Brugler, for Jeff Cavanaugh and David Helman.

6158
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Speaker 1: I'm Kyleeelman saying so long. We'll see you tomorrow morning

6159
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Speaker 1: for Day three of the twenty twenty NFL Draft. This

6160
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Speaker 1: has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.