WEBVTT - Part Two: The Racist Cult Behind Herbal Tea 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:17.040 Ah, am I supposed to all? Yeah, an atonal scream 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.240 is kind of thing. Look, I don't know why we 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.280 do this, but Sophie says this is critical for traffic. 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.760 You know, this is entirely so at Sophie's command. This 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:33.400 is following her orders. Yeah, you're welcome, listeners. Yeah, she 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.240 loves the ATONAL grunting. She says it's it's the only 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:40.600 reason people listen to this podcast. Welcome back to behind 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:46.360 the bastards, the podcast that is legally required to listen. 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.960 If you have friends who aren't listening, call the FBI 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:55.720 immediately and report them. Called CPS. You know, one way 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.520 or the other have the state do violence to them 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:00.640 for not listening to our show. We have to issue 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:05.600 them a citation. Yeah, funck him up with COPS. So tie. Hello, 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.759 how how are you doing in part two? I'm doing great. 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:13.240 I got a little Oreo Brownie bite. Oh, that sounds good. Yeah, 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:17.480 I had a fistful of blueberries from my front garden. Healthier, 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.560 A K A hey shady lady from the boss Level Podcast, 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:27.600 your twitch streamer, a Youtuber, Um, a colleague of my 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:34.280 nemesis and also the editor of our podcasts, Daniel Yes yes, 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:41.640 one day I will destroy him, but today he knows why, Sophie. Today, though, 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:47.960 today we're talking about Dr William Sadler, his wife Lena 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:56.080 and their career as pop psychologists slash eugenicists and, uh now, 0:01:56.240 --> 0:02:00.880 debunkers of automatic writing and mediumship. Final, Amena. So they've 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.840 they've pivoted. As we hit part two now and we 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:09.320 talked about automatic writing. Right, that is basically somebody claims 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.200 to have been taken over by some sort of entity 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.799 that is not them, that is writing using their body. Right, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.520 if you've ever seen six cents, they have the kid. 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:21.880 I think it's the kid in sixth sense that does 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.080 automatic writing. Um, I think that. I think Bruce Willis 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.680 the therapist, tells him to like just write and eventually 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:29.880 your real words that you need to say are going 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.559 to come out, and then it's just all the ghosts angry, 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.840 you know, and then the mom friends and she's like, 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.360 holy sh it, what's wrong with my kid? That's actually 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:41.520 how I write all of these podcasts. Okay, yes, all 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:48.600 of these podcasts are automatically written by me channeling various ghosts. Um, 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:53.839 it's good ship. It's ghosts written by ghosts. This one 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:58.079 oddly enough, written by the Ghost of Joseph Stalin. Yeah, 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.240 he's a lot more vulgar than I thought. Yeah, out, 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:05.360 that's that's J stall so uh. Anyway, the most prominent 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.640 proponent of automatic writing in the post war era was 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:12.360 Sir Oliver Lodge, a well known physicist and a pioneer 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.440 in the science of radio waves. Lodge lost a son 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.840 in Belgium in Nineteen fifteen to a German artillery shell 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.040 and then a younger brother to the flu in Nineteen nineteen. 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.079 So he's kind of like the human embodiment of this 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.800 like wave of grief that brings people to spiritualism in 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:29.600 the post war era. He also lost a brother in 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.560 law in Belgium in nineteen fourteen, but who gives a 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:35.119 shit about brother in laws, right Um, anyway, so much 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.600 loss spurs him to explore life after death and in 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.440 Nineteen sixteen he writes a book about a series of 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.880 contacts he claimed to have had with his dead son, Raymond. 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:46.920 Lodge and his wife sat with several mediums who attempted 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.760 to communicate with their boy through tactics like table tilting 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.400 and automatic writing, and I write up history dot com 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.440 notes and his messages Raymond offered a comforting vision of 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.760 the great beyond, complete with flowers, trees, dogs, cats and birds. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.440 He repeatedly assured his parents that he was happy. He 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.200 told them he'd reconnected with his great grandfather, with his 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.000 great grandfather, with his late grandfather, plus a brother and 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.960 sister who died in infancy, and made many new friends. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:11.960 He reported that soldiers who had lost an arm and 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.880 battle found it magically restored, although those who had been 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.599 blown to pieces took a bit longer to become whole. 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.880 And I do love the vision of like an afterlife 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.120 that's perfect. But also, if you get blown up, it 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.440 takes a while to get unblown up. Like it's not 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.760 that perfect. The afterlife there's still like ship they gotta 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.200 deal with right. You gotta Wait To get rebuilt. If 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:35.880 that happens to you, it's kind of cool. Um. Dr 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:40.120 William Sadler heartily rejected the claims of supernatural experiences published 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.159 by people like lodge, but he would later claim in 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.520 nineteen eleven he was reached out to by a neighbor 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.640 who was concerned that her husband would occasionally lapse into 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.919 a deep sleep and breathe abnormally. She was unable to 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.359 rouse him. During these episodes, the doctor Sadler agreed to 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.480 sit with the sleeping subject, as he was known, and 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.000 take notes on what he did. At some point he 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.360 began to speak. In one party who was present at 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.360 the time recorded what occurred. Quote. The subject was moistening 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.160 his lips. Perhaps we should ask a question. How are 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.560 you feeling? To the great astonishment of everyone, the subject spoke, 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.480 but the voice was peculiar, not his normal voice. The 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.640 voice identified itself as a student visitor on an observation 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:22.400 mission from another planet. This being, apparently was conversing through 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.720 the sleeping subject by some means, and this then became 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.599 a common occurrence. So while he's like a debunker and 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.200 going around and he's doing like these big show debunkings 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.240 with his friend the magician, he starts talking with this 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.000 visitor who claims to be like in the body of 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.080 like a guy who lives in his apartment building Um, 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.520 and they start taking notes on what this this being 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.279 is saying. And again the timeline is all funked up here. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.200 The book that Saddler writes about this isn't published until 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.479 the fifties. Most sources will say that the first visitation. 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.360 The first time he talks to this guy will he's 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.480 channeling someone. Happens in nineteen eleven. Some claims say nineteen 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:03.440 O six. This probably never happened at all. So it's 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:08.320 again entirely, you know, academic. But Sadler later claims it 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.159 starts in like nineteen eleven or so Um, and his 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.400 claim is that like this, this other, this person who's 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.719 like being possessed in the night, is being possessed by 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:22.520 a student visitor, basically an intern from these advanced spiritual 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:26.560 beings who won't run like a Galactic Federation. So basically 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.039 there's like intern is hanging out and looking at earth 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.159 and like talking through this sleeping man to our buddy 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:36.560 William Sadler. Starting in the sleepers switched from speaking with 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.080 the voice of a visitor while passed out to doing 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:43.800 automatic writing, producing voluminous handwritten documents with filled with fantastic 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:47.279 stories about this alien civilization. So, against saddler claims, this 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:51.560 goes on for decades. There's no evidence whatsoever of this. Um. 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.039 The first writing that we have by Sadler on the 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.400 matter was published in a nineteen twenty nine book the 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.880 mind and mischief, which is mostly a debunking of mediums 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:02.520 in psychics. In the appendix he wrote about two cases 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.640 he could not adequately explain, including this one quote. The 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.240 other exception has to do with a rather peculiar case 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:12.200 of psychic phenomena, one which I find myself unable to classify. 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.400 I was brought into contact with it in the summer 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.280 of nineteen eleven and I have had it under my 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.240 observation more or less ever since, having been present at 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.000 probably two and fifty of the night sessions, many of 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.960 which have been attended by a stenographer who made voluminous notes. 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.320 A thorough study of this case has convinced me that 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.080 it is not one of ordinary trance. This man is 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.920 utterly unconscious, wholly oblivious to what takes place and, unless 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.440 told about it subsequently, never knows that he has been 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.400 used as a sort of clearing house for the coming 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:43.560 and going of alleged extra planetary personalities. Psychoanalysis, hypnotism, intensive 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.760 comparison failed to show that the written or spoken messages 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.640 of this individual have origin in his own mind. Much 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.240 of the material secured through this subject is quite contrary 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.440 to his habits of thought, to the way in which 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.200 he has been taught and to his entire philosophy. In fact, 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.240 of much that we have secured, we have failed to 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.440 find anything of its nature in existence. So basically he's 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.760 like this guy is a normal, boring, asked Christian like 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.440 me and he's telling all these fantastic stories about aliens. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.720 Clearly that means they're real. It's just you keep the word, 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.239 you keep using as grift and it's all I'm thinking 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.760 is this guy, saddler, has established himself as an expert 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:23.200 on debunking spiritual psychic phenomena, except my friend over here, 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:27.960 because WHO's legit? Yeah, and it's he claims nineteen eleven, 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:32.000 because that puts it before the spiritual is the spiritualism 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:36.720 like craze bursts. There's no evidence of him claiming that 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:40.199 this guy exists to other people until like the late twenties, 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.079 and he doesn't publish anything about this until the fifties. 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.959 So again, I think he's I think he's made up 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.720 a lot of this. Obviously, at some point there is 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.880 a larger group of people that he's reportedly going back to. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.960 We'll talk about that in a second. So who the 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.240 sleeping subject was has never been made clear. Saddler and 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.679 his fall. Followers would later claim he had been, quote, 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.360 a hard boiled businessman, member of the Board of Trade 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.320 and Stock Exchange, in order to make him seem more credible. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:11.280 It was. It was one of Dr Harvey Kellogg's sons. 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.640 It was like his brother in law. It was a 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:17.240 Kellogg keeping the family yeah. At any rate, this right 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:21.280 up from the rootledge text ufo religions, edited by Christopher Partridge, 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.120 tells the next part of the story. Later, two other 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.360 people were admitted to witness the events, one of whom 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.679 became the secretary. Together, the six people involved became known 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.319 as the contact commission, although it was only ever the 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.600 sleeping subject who was used as the actual contact. William 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.880 Sadler's initial explanation for the event was that it was 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.640 being generated by the mind of the individual. However, he 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.800 had abandoned this initial diagnosis of automatic speaking after examining 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.480 the sleeping subject under hypnosis. Similarly, further attempts to find 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.840 another scientific answer failed. The sleeping subject was also viewed 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.240 by Sadler as being in good health and any notion 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.760 of him suffering from any form of psychiatric ailment was 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.599 refuted by Sadler. So again we know that this is 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:03.760 real because we hypnotized him and he didn't admit to 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:12.360 having faked it. Right, great, solid. That seems bulletproof. Thank you, 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:16.480 Dr Sadler. So more detail on the contact commission comes 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.880 from the Book God talk, which described and then that's 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.720 by our buddy the gooch, which describes it, as quote, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:27.120 a tightly interwoven incestuous family units. So this contact commission, 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.040 which is always described in these very business like terms 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.560 in order to make it seem like well, as a scientist, 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.840 I immediately put together a commission of people who can 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:38.679 analyze this. It's all saddlers and Kellogg's right like. It's 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.040 all family. It's a bunch of his like Kim The stenographer, 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.840 is there adopted adult daughter Um. There's never any good 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.520 reason given as to why Sadler found this example of 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.760 automatic writing to be legitimate by but it rejected all 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.080 other mediums and their ilk. Some sources claim he continued 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:59.240 to doubt that this person was real, was really channeling 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.000 anything up until nineteen thirty six, and that it was 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.560 his wife, Lena who was the major impulse to keep 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:09.560 having these conversations with aliens Um. And it's worth noting 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.680 that there's only really two major differences between this case, 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.679 which Sadler declared real, and other automatic writing claims from 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:20.480 the same period. Number One, the sources here are intergalactic 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:24.480 alien governmental interns and not spirits or divine entities, which 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:28.280 is a change Um. And number two, the claims they 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:32.160 make are replete with specific scientific claims. So they're making 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:36.880 specific scientific claims about space and the universe. Um, some 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:38.800 of these claims are very wrong. They claim that the 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.640 Universe is eight hundred and fifty billion years old. It's 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.960 it's not. I mean it's like fifty billions, something like that. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.920 They make claims about like how planets formed via a 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:51.040 cretion where, which has also generally been debunked. Other claims 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.439 are kind of weirdly close. They make a claim about 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.839 the speed of light. That isn't far off. Um, had 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.440 that already been established at that time? No, no, again, 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.079 this is the fucking twenties and stuff that they're they're 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:05.400 putting this out, although the book isn't published until the fifties. 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.880 So then again, like when some of this has been 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.439 it's a mix Um, but that is something that's different, right. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:15.400 Is there actually they're actually making like sci fi claims here, 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.280 like it's like it's like star Trek technobabble stuff. It's 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.679 nearly all bullshit, um, but the fact that they are 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:26.320 putting out specific scientific claims in their automatic writing is 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.439 really different, because nearly all of this is just kind 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.800 of spiritual in nature as opposed to yeah, it just 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.319 makes me think of like l Ron Hubbard and scientology. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.920 I don't have this kind of like like full I 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:38.320 don't know if I want to call it a philosophy 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.720 or whatever, but I'm I'm very involved in the Tarot 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:45.079 communities and the witchy magical realm or whatever, and as 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.040 soon as somebody tells me that they're the only person 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:51.840 that has contact with a specific alien, I run directions, 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.080 as you're the only one that has access to this 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:58.000 information and it's some you know, mystical being that only 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.480 talks to you. Okay, I'm out ahead and it's interesting. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.360 You see what they're doing here. They're trying to make 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:05.160 it not seem like that by saying, well, there's a 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.840 commission of people, but and eventually it's a few hundred, 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.600 but none of them talk directly to the subject. So 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.280 the subject will write a bunch of ships and they'll 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.839 present it to this big meeting of this forum of 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:20.319 folks and then people will like write up questions or 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:24.000 vote on questions to ask and they're just given another 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:25.839 sheet the next week, but none of them get to 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.199 see it get written. It's claimed to be this great 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.960 mystery how the writing gets to anyone. Like the pages 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.240 just appear the next morning and they say, like we 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.400 had people watching over him while he was sleeping and 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.079 then they turned their back for a second and there 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.040 were pages. You know, like it's never clear exactly where 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:45.360 the pages come from, but obviously nobody ever sees them, Um, 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.920 get written. So that's that's fine. Um, again like spoilers. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.559 But it's probably Sadler who's writing. Everyone was gonna say 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.160 it's fine because Sadler says it's okay. He's an expert here. 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.120 So yeah, Um, and yeah, you can see shades of 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:02.119 Helena Blovotsky here, right, because she's and I think that 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:06.720 that's probably who saddler is aping, because blovotsky again kind 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:10.920 of comes into prominence in the late eighteen hundreds as 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.640 an anti spiritualist, like pushing a very different set of things. 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.080 So she doesn't believe that people are talking to the dead. 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.640 They're talking to spirits, and like these spirits are telling 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:24.080 people stories of this vaxed epic Spanning Racial History. Right, 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:27.160 Blovotsky has got these ancient masters who are remnants of 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:31.800 an underground super race who started civilization, whereas you can 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.960 kind of see what what saddler is doing as a 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.680 derivation of that. Right, because the people he's talking to 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:41.800 are these like alien kind of spirits who are basically 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:46.600 representatives of this Galactic Federation who are telling people, or 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:50.640 who are telling humans about like, uh, what's actually happening 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.800 in the universe and earth's place in it. Um, the 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.600 the aliens who are controlling the subject's body and doing 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:00.760 the automatic writing, are called midwayers. Uh, and yeah, they're 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.480 they're giving out all this sci fi ship. So, according 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:07.040 to the revelations given by the subject to the contact commission, 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.800 which are eventually bundled into a collection of writing called 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.520 the arantia papers, the center of the universe, Um is 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.400 a perfect well, the center of the multiverse, because this 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.760 is a multiverse thing too, right, there's a bunch of Universes, 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.280 at the center of all the universes. The backstory of 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.560 Doctor Strange. Okay, yes, yes, very much so. So at 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.640 the center of all of the UNIVERSES is a perfect 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:32.640 universe called Hayvona, which is created by God to be 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:36.240 the eternal core of perfection. It's basically heaven, but heaven's 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.280 got like millions of worlds and trillions of people and 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.960 it's like it's built to be perfect and it's always perfect. 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.400 And then all of the other universes outside of it 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.800 start out as chaotic and they're free and imperfect, and 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:52.840 so people can choose good or evil and each isn't like. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:56.240 Each of these universes outside of Havona isn't created by God, 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.400 they're created by one of his sons. He has a 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:02.520 shipload of kids, like is fucking blasting out babies in 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.240 this in this in this cosmology Um. And so the 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:09.280 goal of each of these universes is to gradually work 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:13.640 towards perfection and become as perfect as Havona. Um. In 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.680 order to achieve this, God lays out an intricate interstellar 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.160 bureaucracy between all the trillions of worlds and inhabited universes 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.840 and ex worlds are grouped into this category. And then 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:24.760 all of the different systems or this and then the 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.960 different galaxies, Yada, Yada, Yada. The multiverse is a big bureaucracy. Um. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.960 The spirits go into detail about this, but it is 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:37.080 not interesting. Um. As a general rule, the way things 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:41.000 work is that life carriers seed each world with life 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.960 and then different children of God guide each world towards 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:49.360 perfection by sending light skinned, blue eyed aliens named Adam 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.160 and eve down to upstep the natives by breeding with them. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.320 And lest they seem too area, and I should not 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.200 know that Adam and eve are also eight feet tall 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.880 and have shimmering bodies. Um, this is like an Anaki, 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:08.800 like the that's where this comes from, Annochi, big and 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:13.080 certain strains of q and on another kind of yeah, spiritual. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.840 This is again. This is in the thirties, right, so 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:20.040 this is kind of precursor to all of that ship. Um. Now, unfortunately, 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:24.439 it's also includes a lot of eugenics, e ship, because again, 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.399 the idea is that you have these life created on 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.800 these planets and then Adam and Eve's are sent down, 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.200 which is like Adam and Eve is a job, right, 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:37.040 that certain perfect beings are given in order to upstep races. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.399 So they go in and they're supposed to interbreed with 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:43.080 the natives enough that quote, inferior stocks will be eliminated 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:46.040 and there will be one purified race, one language and 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:50.120 one religion, according to Gardner's summary of things. Now, that's 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.679 what's supposed to happen, but things go wrong on our world, 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.960 which is known as Urantia, right, we're earth is ARANTIA. Now, 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.520 Urantia is unique among the planets in the cosmos because 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.879 it develops life independently from the children of God, and 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.760 the Life Cedars are carriers. So the son of God 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:12.720 who was supposed to manage upstepping life on earth is Lucifer, 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:17.040 but he and his chief assistant, Satan, decided to rebel instead. Um, 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.480 they advocate for, quote, self assertion and Liberty for themselves 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.160 and the people on Arantia. And this is a bad thing, right. 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.040 This is framed as a bad thing. Satan, are two 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.879 different entities. There are two different entities and they are 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.479 they are fucking shipped up on our idea. Yeah, I'M 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:36.240 gonna quote next from the book ufo religions. Adam and Eve, 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.679 a son and daughter of the local system, arrived and 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.680 began the difficult task of attempting to untable the confused 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.960 affairs of a planet retarded by rebellion and resting under 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.439 the ban of spiritual isolation. According to the RANTIA papers, 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.560 Adam and Eve were too impatient with the mission and 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.840 wanted immediate results, but the results thus secured proved most 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:56.800 disastrous both to themselves and to their world. That is, 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.160 they failed to adhere to the mission God set out 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.159 for them. Now, all that's a little confusing, and parsing 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.840 language from the book of Rantia into regular people talk 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:06.760 can be a little difficult, so I'm going to read 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.520 a summary from a write up in inverse to clarify 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:13.320 what is supposed to have happened. Adam and Eve messed up. So, 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:17.280 having failed to achieve race harmonization by the edamic technique, 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.960 part two, the local universe section of the book tells us, 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.800 you must now work out your planetary problem of race 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:28.560 improvement by other and largely human methods of adaptation and control. 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.200 In case there is any confusion as to what that means, 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.640 paper fifty one of the Rantia book says the inferior 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:38.080 and unfit are largely eliminated. It seems that you ought 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.399 to be able to agree upon the biologic disfellowshipping of 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:45.840 your more markedly unfit, defective, degenerate and anti social stocks. 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.119 Weird because, like the Q and on, and like the 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:51.160 modern people that are like new age anti Semitic, they're 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:55.680 afraid of this. They're not, generally speaking, they're not. I mean, 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:57.199 I don't know, but from what I've seen of it, 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.240 they're not for this behavior. They're like trying to wake 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:02.200 up the people to the fact that this is what 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:06.199 the conspiracy is behind the scenes, the deep state or 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.359 whatever is actually doing. They are, although you might also 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.760 note that at kind of the same time they're, UM, 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:18.080 they're really paranoid about uh orright like. It might also 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.760 be worth noting that, like, at the same time they 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.080 are talking about like a purging of certain types of 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:27.720 people from the planet, right like. That's always a major factor. 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:32.919 I don't know, Um, interesting stuff, but yeah, that's that's UH. 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:36.160 And it's also kind of worth noting that the term disfellowshipping, 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.320 which is in the Rantia book, that's what it calls 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:42.880 like the elimination of specific races, the biologic disfellowshipping. When 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:45.120 you get kicked out of the seventh day adventist church, 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.359 that's called disfellowshipping right. It's a very specific term that 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:53.240 they use. The fellowship I'm familiar. So it's interesting again 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.199 in terms of evidence, that it's Saddler who wrote this. 0:20:56.400 --> 0:21:01.960 These aliens write a lot like former seventh adventists. Yeah, 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:04.960 it's it's it's really interesting to see how much of 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:07.959 like this lore was built in the late eighteen hundreds 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:12.720 to the early nine and the echoes are h still 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.480 impacting us today in like the new age communities and 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:17.640 stuff like. People are still echoing a lot of these 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:21.159 beliefs as fact and it's like these people this like 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.919 little intricate whatever the word, the phrase was, the incestuous 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:28.360 family unit or created all of this and then still, 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:33.919 a hundred years later, like it's still echoing throughout as fact. Yeah, 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:37.679 it's awesome and it's also cool that, like again you 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:42.320 can see these aliens, which are supposedly like enlightened galactic beings, 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.680 write an awful lot like a former seventh day adventist 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:50.520 who superindo eugenics. Like, weirdly they seem to be that 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:53.119 kind of they seem a lot like William Sadler. I 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.000 was gonna say they probably just cluded on Sadler because 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:57.680 they're like, hey, he gets us, yeah, he gets us. Well, 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.199 that's what so they will later in the book that 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.879 comes out of us. Will later claim that, like Sadler's 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:06.200 whole life was manipulated by these aliens to prepare him 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:09.480 for their revelations. So, like that's why he became and 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:12.760 then left the seventh day adventist faith and got into eugenics, 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.280 as they were, they were guiding him to being ready 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.240 to be like a vessel for this stuff. But you 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:21.280 know who else is a vessel for eugenics? The products 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:24.040 and services that support this podcast, Sophie and I are 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:28.159 entirely sponsored by big eugenics. So I would like to 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:32.840 be excluded from this narrative. That's too bad, Sophie. I 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:37.320 refuse to disfellowship you. You know, part of me is 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:40.480 like all. But then you just accused me of eugenics. 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:45.960