Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky andooky.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, I said, Byron's dress. Hey boo, it's me Roz.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: This was such a fun conversation on today's show. I
Speaker 1: got to talk to Bailey Sarian, who you know from
Speaker 1: Murder Mystery and Makeup on YouTube and all of our
Speaker 1: social media and the internets. She is very popular and
Speaker 1: so fun and gorgeous. And we talk today a little
Speaker 1: bit about this connection between glamour and and being into
Speaker 1: the spookiness and this community that exists out there. And
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that people that are into that stuff
Speaker 1: have found me and I've found you. And she actually
Speaker 1: is somebody that I learned about from listeners of this show,
Speaker 1: from some of you recommending her videos to me or
Speaker 1: posting them in the Facebook group ghosted by Roz dress
Speaker 1: Veles on Facebook. And I so appreciate you guys introducing
Speaker 1: me to her a while back, and now I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan, and so I had my people hit up
Speaker 1: her people and we had a great little chat. And
Speaker 1: I always appreciate when people recommend future guests. So if
Speaker 1: you do know of anybody out there that is super
Speaker 1: cool and fun and has a good ghost story, let
Speaker 1: me know, because it's hard to find people to get
Speaker 1: on the show that have a good, good story, you know,
Speaker 1: And I'm kind of picky. I'm not gonna lie, But
Speaker 1: that kind of brings up another thing I wanted to
Speaker 1: tell you about. Next Thursday is of course Thanksgiving, and
Speaker 1: I usually take off holidays on the main podcast feed,
Speaker 1: but I am committed to the people that have monthly
Speaker 1: subscriptions of my Patreon to giving you bonus clips every
Speaker 1: Thursday of episodes. But since there won't be main episodes
Speaker 1: on the feed, I thought, oh, it should be fun
Speaker 1: to just hit up some friends that are good friends
Speaker 1: that might have a little bit of ghostly experiences, but
Speaker 1: not like a full shebang, a full enchilada of a story.
Speaker 1: But I thought, you know, I'll hit them up and
Speaker 1: we can talk about ghosts and we'll do some EVPs
Speaker 1: and we'll have a good time. So I'm gonna I'll
Speaker 1: be doing that this Thursday on Patreon on my second
Speaker 1: tier called On with the Show, and that's patreon dot
Speaker 1: com slash ros dress Fales and that also. It's kind
Speaker 1: of crazy, but Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve are
Speaker 1: both Thursdays this year, so I'm going to do the
Speaker 1: same thing in the future for Thursday. So you're kind
Speaker 1: of like getting like a regular episode essentially on Patreon,
Speaker 1: so I'll be doing that only on Patreon. And speaking
Speaker 1: of Patreon, this week, on my first tier, I went
Speaker 1: to Hollywood Forever Cemetery and I love that place. I've
Speaker 1: been there many times. It's a really beautiful, peaceful, serene
Speaker 1: cemetery right in the thick of Hollywood craziness. And I
Speaker 1: went to a couple of different resting places of some
Speaker 1: famous people over the years, and I did did a
Speaker 1: little bit of history digging on them and talked about
Speaker 1: them on my video on Patreon this week, and I'll
Speaker 1: probably do more of that in the future, so you
Speaker 1: can check that out. And on today's episode, I thought
Speaker 1: it would be fun to attempt doing my makeup while
Speaker 1: talking to her, so throughout the whole conversation today, I'm
Speaker 1: doing a big portion of my makeup while we're talking.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna do a bonus clip like every week,
Speaker 1: but this week, I'm gonna have a little short, little
Speaker 1: video clip of me and Bailey talking and we talk
Speaker 1: about Ouiji boards and psychics and her experience with those things.
Speaker 1: So go to patreon dot com slash rolls Dress for
Speaker 1: Last to see that short little clip of me halfway
Speaker 1: through finishing up my makeup. No, I'm hitting it hard,
Speaker 1: but I'm also not working and your support means a
Speaker 1: lot to me right now, So thank you. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: just hear this conversation. We did this a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I've just been so happy about it
Speaker 1: ever since because she's just so fun. So I hope
Speaker 1: you enjoy my conversation with Bailey Sariann. I with the show.
Speaker 1: Hello everybody, I am joined by Bailey sarian Hello, how
Speaker 1: are you hi?
Speaker 2: How are you? Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing this. I thought I would try
Speaker 1: something different, and I'm going to try doing my makeup
Speaker 1: while talking, which that's a skill in and of itself,
Speaker 1: especially like when someone's looking at you, and when I
Speaker 1: watch videos that you do, I'm like, how does she
Speaker 1: look so flawle? Like when I do makeup, I'm just
Speaker 1: like making the scrunchy faces I'm doing like one like
Speaker 1: I look ridiculous, But I'm gonna try it. I think
Speaker 1: that's a skill that you're very good at.
Speaker 2: Honestly. I mean, you guys see the finished version of
Speaker 2: it all. But behind the scenes, it's struggling for a
Speaker 2: good four hours because it's so hard sometimes to talk
Speaker 2: and do your makeup because you're just focusing on blending
Speaker 2: or whatever you're doing. And yeah, it's it's a struggle
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. But I'm learning.
Speaker 1: I'm usually a music person when I'm doing my makeup
Speaker 1: because then because I think the beat keeps me going.
Speaker 1: But like, I don't know, I'm usually not Like when
Speaker 1: I would do drag shows back in the old world,
Speaker 1: I was usually the chick that would show up like
Speaker 1: fully done as everyone else is doing it just because
Speaker 1: I get so distracted.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's very here, we are distracted. But I
Speaker 2: normally when I get ready, I like to watch either
Speaker 2: YouTube videos or I don't know, a lot of Oprah
Speaker 2: I find. Yes, I find all of her old episodes
Speaker 2: on YouTube and I just binge watch them because I mean,
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I miss Soprah.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, God, she used to have some juicy
Speaker 1: episodes back in the nineties. Yes, So how did you
Speaker 1: get into all this juiciness, because you clearly also loved
Speaker 1: the drama. You love the mystery, you love the murder,
Speaker 1: the paranormal a little. How'd that all start for you?
Speaker 2: For me? I where did it start? So? When I
Speaker 2: was younger, my mom was a nine on one dispatcher
Speaker 2: and she can take me to work with her, which
Speaker 2: we laugh about it now, but looking back, it probably
Speaker 2: wasn't the best idea to take your child to listen
Speaker 2: to nine on one calls because nobody's calling to say
Speaker 2: anything positive or nice, Like, you know, everyone is going
Speaker 2: through something serious. I used to sit there and listen
Speaker 2: in and I always just found it fascinating. I think
Speaker 2: at the time when I was younger, I didn't realize
Speaker 2: that it was real people going through something. But as
Speaker 2: I got older, I don't know. I just was always
Speaker 2: so interested in my mom's job and hearing all her
Speaker 2: stories about what was going on that day and where
Speaker 2: did you grow up? Out in the Inland Empire, southern California. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was like a small town. I mean, it's grown
Speaker 2: a lot now, so I guess it's not anymore, but
Speaker 2: it was there really was anything to do. But as
Speaker 2: I got older, I still like always followed true crime
Speaker 2: cases on my free time. I was always just reading
Speaker 2: any kind of biography on a serial killer. And then
Speaker 2: the Chris Watts case happened. Are you familiar with the
Speaker 2: Chris Watts case?
Speaker 1: Is this the one that the documentary just happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yes, which then there were also people because the thing.
Speaker 1: I talked to a lot of murder people. I have
Speaker 1: a lot of friends that are in the murder world,
Speaker 1: and it's it's always like there's sometimes crossover. I always
Speaker 1: feel like when I talk about ghosts, but people started
Speaker 1: sending me because they were saying that it appeared that
Speaker 1: there were ghosts in a video. Did you see all
Speaker 1: that I did? But I heard it got debunked though.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was like the neighbor's children, and people were
Speaker 2: thinking it was ghosts when yeah, if you just watched
Speaker 2: like the original I think posting of the video that
Speaker 2: showed the clip it was like his kids. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but you know how the internet is, they kind of
Speaker 2: jumped to conclusions very quickly without even doing some simple research.
Speaker 2: Are I know, I fall for everything. So I've learned
Speaker 2: over time to like, okay, can't believe everything. Research it
Speaker 2: as best as.
Speaker 1: You can totally. But so so when that case came out,
Speaker 1: that's you really got into that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just staying up until like three or
Speaker 2: four in the morning, thinking I could solve the mystery.
Speaker 2: But then I just had all this built up knowledge
Speaker 2: on this case and nobody to talk to about it with.
Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm just going to my makeup
Speaker 2: and then talk about the case and upload it onto YouTube.
Speaker 2: So I did that, and it actually it turned into
Speaker 2: something so much bigger than I ever imagined. I never
Speaker 2: thought I would be doing what I'm doing now with
Speaker 2: my murder mystery and makeup series and so good, I know.
Speaker 2: I just it's cool that so many of us are
Speaker 2: interested in true crime but also makeup and we can
Speaker 2: kind of find this common ground no matter our background
Speaker 2: or age, gender, I mean whatever. I mean, my demographics
Speaker 2: are just all over the place, so it's really cool
Speaker 2: that we found this common ground.
Speaker 1: You know what's so funny is the way that I
Speaker 1: first heard about you was people that listened to this
Speaker 1: podcast started sending me videos of you, And at first
Speaker 1: I was like, well, it's just like murder. I don't
Speaker 1: talk a ton about murder on the show. But then
Speaker 1: I started like falling in love with you, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like there is this community of people
Speaker 1: that love spooky and glamour. There's like a weird crossover.
Speaker 2: What is that? Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that just being a lover of drama?
Speaker 2: Maybe I actually never thought of it like that, but
Speaker 2: maybe I think we like a surprise.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: We want to be surprised almost. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be involved in drama, but I
Speaker 1: like to hear about drama and I like to look dramatic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to clarify, yeah, no, I know.
Speaker 2: I never really thought of it that way. But you're
Speaker 2: so right because I'm the same way. Like if I'm
Speaker 2: going to do my makeup, I'm going to I'm going
Speaker 2: to do my makeup. I'm not going to go through
Speaker 2: like oh.
Speaker 1: And you do you know that's why, Well, that's why
Speaker 1: I love So I'm not I'm not that old, but
Speaker 1: I'm I'm old enough where I learned how to do
Speaker 1: makeup from books and so like the makeup tutorial world
Speaker 1: I've I've looked into over the years, but I've just
Speaker 1: learned from drag and from just like not not I'm
Speaker 1: basically just not from YouTube and a lot of the
Speaker 1: times because I want I want like big like. I
Speaker 1: think that the makeup culture has evolved a lot over
Speaker 1: the past few years and things have gotten bigger. I
Speaker 1: think because there was a time when I worked at
Speaker 1: an apartment store and I would do these nice little
Speaker 1: ladies and they'd come in because they want to look cute,
Speaker 1: and I would turn them into what you're looking at
Speaker 1: right here, and they would scream and my manager would
Speaker 1: have to fix them. And I've just always liked that that.
Speaker 1: I just keep using the word drama, that dramatic, just
Speaker 1: like I love I just love the way that you
Speaker 1: do makeup. I think it's so beautiful.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm the same way though. I love drama too.
Speaker 2: I've always just loved the like nineties porn star Pamela Anderson,
Speaker 2: big hair babes.
Speaker 1: I've always feel like the word as babe, like she
Speaker 1: was such a babe or a vixen.
Speaker 2: Yes, barbed wire tech too on her arm, just kind
Speaker 2: of trashy, but still glam. I just love that and
Speaker 2: I live never heard of it. It's a lifestyle. It's
Speaker 2: not true.
Speaker 1: It totally is. God. I'm really like I try not
Speaker 1: to analyze things too deeply when it comes to this,
Speaker 1: but I'm like really analyzing, like I'm thinking of a
Speaker 1: certain just a community of people that why all these
Speaker 1: things appeal to us, Like it's just so interesting the things. Now,
Speaker 1: do you like movies that are I mean, my Verican
Speaker 1: movies are horror, But I also like what people would
Speaker 1: consider it to be, like a bad movie, like so
Speaker 1: bad it's good. Are you into that kind of a
Speaker 1: thing too.
Speaker 2: Yes, I love those. I love a bad movie or
Speaker 2: a cheesy horror film. Did you actually watch the one
Speaker 2: on Hulu it's called bad hair Obsessed me?
Speaker 1: I watched it the other day, Oh my god, a
Speaker 1: killer weave.
Speaker 2: Yes, and a lot of people were saying how awful
Speaker 2: it was, and I was like, this is the best
Speaker 2: movie ever. What are you guys talking about? Like, did
Speaker 2: we watch the same movie? It was?
Speaker 1: I don't think it was bad at all. Now that's
Speaker 1: not like to me, that was like a good horror movie.
Speaker 1: Now there's movies that are so bad they're good, you know.
Speaker 1: And there's been studies that have said that people with
Speaker 1: high IQs tend to like quote unquote trash, and so
Speaker 1: I take that as a compliment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even look that up. I'll just believe
Speaker 2: it to be true.
Speaker 1: There's this movie called Microwave Massacre that I just watched
Speaker 1: the other night. That is trash. I found it on Amazon.
Speaker 1: It's from the seventies and it is not really a
Speaker 1: horror movie. It's kind of more of a comedy but
Speaker 1: like wants to be a horror movie. And it's about
Speaker 1: a guy whose wife makes some bad food. Oh the
Speaker 1: wife's so bad at cooking that he decides to start
Speaker 1: eating humans and hilarity ensues. Anyway, I had a good
Speaker 1: time watching that.
Speaker 2: Actually sounds incredible. I've never heard of that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, we shoul talk about ghosts because I feel
Speaker 1: like that's what we usually talk about here. Do you
Speaker 1: believe in them?
Speaker 2: So I do now, But a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: I really it's not that I didn't believe in them.
Speaker 2: It's more like I just if it's real, cool, I'll
Speaker 2: leave it alone. I don't need to know anything more.
Speaker 2: And if it's not real, then that's cool too. Like
Speaker 2: I just never really thought about it, and I never
Speaker 2: had any experiences with ghosts, so I don't know. But
Speaker 2: then a couple of years ago. A couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: I got a new job and me and my fiancee
Speaker 2: needed to move to Los Angeles and we needed to
Speaker 2: move there like asap. So we were looking around for
Speaker 2: places to rent, and honestly, it got to a point
Speaker 2: where I just we had to take like the first
Speaker 2: place that would accept us. We really couldn't be piggy.
Speaker 2: So we found this small apartment and immediately when you
Speaker 2: were where it was in mid what was it? What
Speaker 2: did they call it? Mid mid? Yeah, it wasn't the
Speaker 2: best area, to be honest, but I mean it was
Speaker 2: a roof over my head, so it worked. But when
Speaker 2: you first walked into the door, it was like this
Speaker 2: really dark, heavy feeling just instantly, and I personally have
Speaker 2: never felt that before, Like it was just weird and
Speaker 2: I could have put my finger on it other than
Speaker 2: maybe there's just not enough windows in here.
Speaker 1: Are you the type of person to like, would you
Speaker 1: even consider like it could be a ghost?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: It doesn't cross your mind, No.
Speaker 2: No, because I mean again it's like, why would a
Speaker 2: ghost choose to be here? You know, if I were
Speaker 2: a ghost, it'd be somewhere nice.
Speaker 1: I wish it worked that way, right, But I think
Speaker 1: about all the like scary like abandoned buildings that have ghosts.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you could pick a place to be
Speaker 1: a ghost, where would you want to be?
Speaker 2: I'd be traveling. I mean, can't ghost travel. I would
Speaker 2: want to see the world as a ghost.
Speaker 1: Oh well, you know, speaking of la ghosts, there's like
Speaker 1: like Marilyn Monroe, she gets around as a ghost. Apparently
Speaker 1: she haunts like ten different places. So I don't really
Speaker 1: know how that works.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, I didn't know that as a spirit, can
Speaker 2: you have your spirit spread around in multiple locations or
Speaker 2: as a spirit do you only have one like.
Speaker 1: You get a PC piece? And well, from what I know,
Speaker 1: and I'm not an expert, but it seems that there's
Speaker 1: different energies manifest in different ways. So it seems that
Speaker 1: there are some that are, you know, more of a
Speaker 1: residual haunting, which is sort of like a ghost that
Speaker 1: doesn't even know what's going on necessarily, it's just it's
Speaker 1: like they usually say, like a record playing over and
Speaker 1: over again of an imprint of that spirit's life in
Speaker 1: one spot. But then there's intelligent ghosts, you know, that
Speaker 1: know what's going on. They can react to you, they
Speaker 1: can have a good day a bad day, and so
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can be both in two
Speaker 1: different places. I'm not really sure how that works. That's
Speaker 1: part of the fun. No one knows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, right, is it fun though? I mean maybe?
Speaker 1: So what did it seem like for you? Like what
Speaker 1: was going on in the place?
Speaker 2: So when we first moved in, it was just this
Speaker 2: instant feeling of dread. And at first I kept just
Speaker 2: excusing it as We've just moved. It's a new location,
Speaker 2: we got new jobs, like, there was a lot of
Speaker 2: change going on in our lives. So it was just
Speaker 2: kind of like, Okay, it must be that. It's just
Speaker 2: a lot of change, and I'm just feeling overwhelmed. But
Speaker 2: as time went on, just weird things would happen where
Speaker 2: something would move. I would put my keys down on
Speaker 2: the counter, and then they would move to like the
Speaker 2: coffee table, and I would be the only one home,
Speaker 2: So it was like, okay, I never put my keys
Speaker 2: on the coffee table, so how did they end up there?
Speaker 2: And it was just little things like that, where things
Speaker 2: were moving around. Lights would be turning off, and I
Speaker 2: mean when lights turn off, I feel like I had
Speaker 2: I mean, it's probably just the power, like, no big deal.
Speaker 2: But I think most of all was when what was
Speaker 2: the one thing that started? I guess it was when
Speaker 2: the keys moved. That one was kind of like a
Speaker 2: big red flag because I knew for a fact I
Speaker 2: had put my keys on the counter and they ended
Speaker 2: up on the coffee table. So then I just started
Speaker 2: joking around with my fiance like we have a ghost.
Speaker 2: I'm calling her ghost grandma. And I don't know why
Speaker 2: I chose grandma, but I just thought ghost grandma. Okay,
Speaker 2: So time goes on and one night I'm laying in
Speaker 2: bed and it's like two in the morning, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, all of the lights like surge and
Speaker 2: all of them turn on in the bedroom and make
Speaker 2: this loud, humming noise and it lasts for about thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: Just the brightest lights are coming, our bulbs are just
Speaker 2: we're like at the highest they can go. And then
Speaker 2: it just shuts off and our power goes out as well.
Speaker 2: And I woke up my fiance and I was like, look,
Speaker 2: all the lights are on, like what is happening.
Speaker 1: I didn't wake him up.
Speaker 2: No, of course not. He was sleeping with the baby.
Speaker 2: I was like, wake the fuck up, get up, and
Speaker 2: that freaked me out because I don't know why that happened.
Speaker 2: Of course, it could have been a power surge, but
Speaker 2: it was different. I don't know what it was, but
Speaker 2: it was different. And then after that, every time I
Speaker 2: would lay in bed, I just got a really weird
Speaker 2: feeling about our closet, like it was uncomfortable and I
Speaker 2: was too afraid to look into the closet. It was
Speaker 2: like this just dark hole and there was just some
Speaker 2: kind of bad energy around it, and it was creeping
Speaker 2: me out. And I would just lay in bed until
Speaker 2: like three or four in the morning because I couldn't
Speaker 2: fall asleep, and I also just couldn't get out of
Speaker 2: bed to use like the restroom metal because I was
Speaker 2: too afraid to walk in front of the closet. But
Speaker 2: I don't know why. Nothing ever happened in the closet.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so all these things, these little weird things
Speaker 2: and weird feelings are happening. So I thought it would
Speaker 2: be funny to offer a gift to who I was
Speaker 2: calling ghost Grandma. So I got one of my lipsticks
Speaker 2: and I was home alone, my fancy was at work,
Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, Ghost Grandma, I'm leaving you
Speaker 2: this lipstick. I mean, no harm. I'm putting this here
Speaker 2: on the table for you.
Speaker 1: Was it like a grandma style lipstick?
Speaker 2: It was a red, I believe. And I think I
Speaker 2: went too bold because okay, it seemed like whoever it was,
Speaker 2: I had pissed them off. Because that same day, I
Speaker 2: was walking up into my room and I had this
Speaker 2: bookshelf to like the left of me, and this pick
Speaker 2: sure frame falls out of the book, the bookshelf onto
Speaker 2: the floor and shatters. And there's no reason for that
Speaker 2: to happen. There was no windows around this area, there's
Speaker 2: no wind, there was no mice. It just fell over
Speaker 2: and I don't know why. So instantly I was like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: I think I pissed this thing off.
Speaker 1: Like she's like, that's not my tone.
Speaker 2: No, no, She's like I wanted a nude. So that
Speaker 2: made me uncomfortable, and I felt like the energy was
Speaker 2: just getting heavier. It seemed like as soon as I
Speaker 2: would come home, it was just this instant depression, Like
Speaker 2: as soon as I opened the door, it was just
Speaker 2: dark and I was miserable. And at that time, I
Speaker 2: believe I was working from home a lot of the time,
Speaker 2: and my fiance was out, so I was just the
Speaker 2: one kind of of feeling stuck there. And then it
Speaker 2: got to a point where I thought, Okay, it might
Speaker 2: be kind of fun to call in a paranormal investigator
Speaker 2: and kind of see, if, you know, if there is
Speaker 2: something here or if I'm just being crazy, because my
Speaker 2: fans thought I was just being crazy as usual. So
Speaker 2: I call in these private and not private investigators, paranormal investigators,
Speaker 2: and two of these ladies come out and they're super
Speaker 2: nice and they walk over.
Speaker 1: Would you find them, I believe just google.
Speaker 2: Just googling around, and it was I mean, they had
Speaker 2: good I think they had some good YELP reviews. I
Speaker 2: wish I could remember off the top of my head
Speaker 2: what their company was.
Speaker 1: But I because I didn't even realize. I mean, I
Speaker 1: talked to a lot of paranormal investigators, but I don't
Speaker 1: I never think of them as like like ghostbusters essentially.
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, you could just probably look them up,
Speaker 1: call them and get some reviews and they'll take care
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: Exactly. It was like a a almost kind of like
Speaker 2: a group of them, and they sent two of the
Speaker 2: ladies to my house and they walk around the house. Well,
Speaker 2: they asked me to step outside just so they can
Speaker 2: kind of walk around and feel the energy and all
Speaker 2: of that. So, after like thirty minutes, I come back
Speaker 2: in and they tell me that there is an older woman,
Speaker 2: an older lady downstairs in our kitchen and this woman
Speaker 2: had lived there at some time and she loved to
Speaker 2: cook and clean.
Speaker 1: She was pretty much where lipsticks.
Speaker 2: Right, and that she had some kind of heart attack
Speaker 2: or something go wrong with her heart, and she had
Speaker 2: died in the kitchen. And I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: like that's they thought, that's where I was getting this
Speaker 2: kind of older energy from.
Speaker 1: Wait, but how did they figure all that out?
Speaker 2: They were like talk, they were talking to whoever it was.
Speaker 2: But they they said that they told me that it
Speaker 2: as a vision, like they can kind of see the
Speaker 2: person in the kitchen grabbing their chest and then falling
Speaker 2: onto the ground.
Speaker 1: Okay, so they were like it was like a medium
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, he was like a psychic of some sort. Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they saw that, and then I asked them
Speaker 2: or I told him about the picture frame and the lipstick,
Speaker 2: and they told me that, yes, whoever that person was
Speaker 2: was pissed off that I did that, and the reason
Speaker 2: for that was because there was a man who was
Speaker 2: in his twenties who committed suicide in the upstairs bedroom. Yes,
Speaker 2: and it was he was in his twenties and he
Speaker 2: lived with his mom and his dad in our apartment
Speaker 2: and he was gay but his parents didn't approve. But
Speaker 2: on his free time he would dress up and me
Speaker 2: giving him or offering in drag, I guess. So they
Speaker 2: just told me dress up, so I'm assuming in drag maybe.
Speaker 1: Or I don't, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So they told me that I pissed him off because
Speaker 2: it was just like a touchy subject that I offered
Speaker 2: a lipstick something that he wasn't allowed to wear because
Speaker 2: this proof of it, yes, And I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh. And they told me that they could see
Speaker 2: him having fights with his father because he was gay
Speaker 2: and his father didn't approve. And then he hanged himself
Speaker 2: in the bedroom and I know, and I was just
Speaker 2: feeling so guilty. I was like, can you tell him
Speaker 2: I said sorry for the lipstick, or like, can you
Speaker 2: tell him he can play with my makeup? I don't know.
Speaker 2: So they told me that, and then they told me
Speaker 2: that there was another spirit there was three spirits. So
Speaker 2: there's another one that was very dark, and it was
Speaker 2: in the closet. And mind you, before they came over,
Speaker 2: I told them nothing. I just said I'm getting some
Speaker 2: weird feelings, like it's strange. And then they did their
Speaker 2: thing and we sat down and we kind of discussed
Speaker 2: it all.
Speaker 1: And they knew about the closet, yes.
Speaker 2: And they knew about the other guy who hanged himself.
Speaker 2: They knew that I pissed him off, and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh gosh, But the closet, they said it was something
Speaker 2: very dark that was moving from the closet to our
Speaker 2: bathroom and was watching us at night, and that's why
Speaker 2: I was getting this weird feeling throughout the night because
Speaker 2: he was he was feeding on my energy. So after
Speaker 2: that I moved out and.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait, but do you think that that
Speaker 1: one was more like a demon or was that a human?
Speaker 1: I don't know, or was it some kind of dark energy?
Speaker 2: I asked about it, and they said that they would
Speaker 2: need to spend more time there to kind of come
Speaker 2: to a final conclusion. But whatever it was was attached
Speaker 2: to that closet and it was also feeding off our neighbors.
Speaker 2: She said, it was really bad next door, and we
Speaker 2: had such issues with our neighbor. He was such an
Speaker 2: asshole and just such a weirdo.
Speaker 1: But she did you ever ask him?
Speaker 2: No, because we didn't. We tried to not talk to him.
Speaker 2: He would break into our apartment and it was just
Speaker 2: an all around bad experience.
Speaker 1: I love how they're like, you didn't order the demon package,
Speaker 1: so if you want to upgrade, we'll be back right.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. But she said that the dark entity
Speaker 2: whatever it was, was feeding off of me and the neighbor,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, oh, it just made me
Speaker 2: feel so yucky because I was so terrified of the
Speaker 2: closet but I had no reason to be. But now
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, we're moving. I have to get
Speaker 2: out of it. Like there's I don't want to be
Speaker 2: here anymore. This is too much.
Speaker 1: But I so, did that make you a believer?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, yes yes. So before that obviously I just
Speaker 2: was like, okay, if it's real, cool if not cool,
Speaker 2: But after that, yes, it's just different. It's this feeling
Speaker 2: and this heaviness that you cannot put into words. It's
Speaker 2: just something you have to experience yourself to fully understand it.
Speaker 2: And even now I try to talk myself out of
Speaker 2: it that it wasn't a ghost or spirit because I
Speaker 2: just don't want to believe it for some reason. But
Speaker 2: I know deep down like that was fucked up. That
Speaker 2: was there was some shit going on.
Speaker 1: What if it was like a happier, fun ghost, would
Speaker 1: you be down?
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely? I loved Casper growing up. I so wanted
Speaker 2: a friend like that. But yeah, whatever it was made
Speaker 2: me feel just so depressed. It was heavy. It was
Speaker 2: so heavy in that apartment.
Speaker 1: So I wonder if there's still whoever lives there now
Speaker 1: is dealing with that.
Speaker 2: I know. I was actually tempted to reach out to
Speaker 2: them because I looked up who live there now? I'm
Speaker 2: just a stalker, So I looked up who lives there now?
Speaker 2: And I found them on Facebook and I was going
Speaker 2: to send them a message, but then I thought, nah,
Speaker 2: that's weird, so I just kind of left it alone.
Speaker 2: But I am curious to know if they are going
Speaker 2: through or feeling that same thing as well.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because that's the scene in the horror movie,
Speaker 1: which is like you hear from the former neighbor or
Speaker 1: somebody that's been around that's like, oh, did you meet
Speaker 1: the lady in the closet or whatever. And then so
Speaker 1: you'll you could be that character in their horror movie.
Speaker 2: That's true. So I should just show up, like, hey.
Speaker 1: You should show up. You should show up like all mysterious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and be like did you try a lipstick?
Speaker 2: It doesn't work, Maybe try some eyelashes instead.
Speaker 1: That's so sad about the.
Speaker 2: Guy, and we wanted up. I looked up the house
Speaker 2: history in that area and a lot of people had
Speaker 2: died in that apartment a lot.
Speaker 1: So was it like a building like a lot of
Speaker 1: units and so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there were about well it was like a
Speaker 2: house that they turned into a townhouse type of ord
Speaker 2: months one of those situations, but before it was just
Speaker 2: one house and a lot of people either got shot there,
Speaker 2: committed suicide, or just died of natural causes.
Speaker 1: So my friend lived in an apartment building in Los
Speaker 1: feels that someone died in below them, and the ghost,
Speaker 1: like on its way up into the sky, made a
Speaker 1: stop in their apartment for a while, and they were like,
Speaker 1: what is this ghost in here? And then they find
Speaker 1: out that the person below them had just died. Oh, oh,
Speaker 1: isn't that weird? I get see, that's when I'm just
Speaker 1: constantly trying to figure out, like how this stuff works.
Speaker 1: I have no clue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me neither, because I thought, but it's fun to
Speaker 2: talk about. I thought, when you're a ghost, you don't
Speaker 2: have to but you stay like where you died, you know, Like.
Speaker 1: That's what I always thought. But people tell me stories
Speaker 1: on this show about ghosts finding you, Like if a
Speaker 1: ghost wants you, they're gonna they're gonna follow you, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna not to put fear in people. But that's
Speaker 1: what it seems like. Like, you know, you hear about
Speaker 1: people that buy certain objects that all of a sudden
Speaker 1: are haunted, or you hear about like someone went someplace
Speaker 1: and they came home and something followed them home.
Speaker 2: So like I don't know, Yeah, that's true. When we
Speaker 2: lived at that apartment, we were going to a state
Speaker 2: sales like crazy and constantly buying just antique pieces.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is exactly that's what this home is.
Speaker 2: Yes, So at first I was thinking we probably brought
Speaker 2: it in from this, Like we bought this huge mirror,
Speaker 2: and I thought for sure it was like attached to
Speaker 2: that mirror, but it wasn't. It was just the in
Speaker 2: the apartment in general, but it did make me nervous,
Speaker 2: Like I never really thought about ghosts being attached to antiques.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I never thought of that.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like that whole haunted doll world, which I'm
Speaker 1: obsessed with I talk about constantly on this podcast. There's
Speaker 1: a whole underworld of eBay haunted dolls that you could
Speaker 1: go look at and apparently they're there, Apparently they're around.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, I mean that would if I were
Speaker 2: a ghost, it would be pretty shitty to just be
Speaker 2: attached to an item. But I guess they like mirrors
Speaker 2: because that you can use it as a portal.
Speaker 1: See, I've heard that. But then I've also heard that
Speaker 1: ghosts don't like mirrors, like that's a way to to
Speaker 1: h ward them off. Some people believe.
Speaker 2: Well, the the ladies who came over to the home
Speaker 2: the apartment, they said that mirrors can be used as
Speaker 2: a portal. But to stop it, if you take a
Speaker 2: red cloth and you put it over the mirror and
Speaker 2: then right down write down their name, No, write down
Speaker 2: your name on a piece of paper and put it
Speaker 2: in the freezer.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to get ridden.
Speaker 2: What. Yes, that's what they told me. And I was like, uh, okay,
Speaker 2: I forget why putting it in the freezer does something.
Speaker 1: But interesting. Yes, so some stuff that you talk about
Speaker 1: on your channel that's paranormal. I'm curious how much you believe,
Speaker 1: Like do you believe in the Mothman? Do you believe
Speaker 1: in exorcisms?
Speaker 2: I believe in exorcisms, the moth Man. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I feel like why not, because it's stupid to
Speaker 2: think that we are the only thing that exists in
Speaker 2: this whole universe world memory, Like it's silly. So I
Speaker 2: like to stay open minded. I want to believe, but
Speaker 2: I personally haven't seen anything to like confirm it.
Speaker 1: We That's why I always say, like outer space and
Speaker 1: the ocean, like they're constantly finding things in there that
Speaker 1: we never thought were even real, so like it could
Speaker 1: happen on Earth too.
Speaker 2: The ocean terrifies me. I mean, it's a same different planet.
Speaker 2: It's so scary you go in it.
Speaker 1: I don't even go in it. I'm too scared.
Speaker 2: I put my feet in, like go with the waves.
Speaker 2: But I watch a lot of documentaries where it's like
Speaker 2: they go, I don't know, way down deep, and it's
Speaker 2: just like, what is down there. I kind of don't
Speaker 2: want to know.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the movie? I think it's called
Speaker 1: forty seven Meters Down I think, so, okay, it's Mandy
Speaker 1: Moore and she goes with her I think sister. They're
Speaker 1: like in cancun Or. I can't remember where they're at.
Speaker 1: There's some place on vacation. They go in one of
Speaker 1: those cages to go I'm looking at sharks, and the
Speaker 1: chord snaps and then they end up the whole movie
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the ocean, trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how to get out of here before the sharks eat
Speaker 1: them and before their oxygen uns out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I started that movie and I saw
Speaker 2: Mandy Moore and I was like, eh, I'm going to pass.
Speaker 1: Why are you know, Mandy Moore? She's missing you like Candy,
Speaker 1: I know, and I like, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know why I don't. I don't know. Like I
Speaker 2: like Mandy Moore. I love her very first album. It
Speaker 2: was my favorite, But I don't know it's her as
Speaker 2: an adult. I'm like, I don't want to read she was.
Speaker 1: Also like fourteen. I know it's a way different story.
Speaker 2: I don't want to ruin the Mandy Moore.
Speaker 1: I know in my mind, which is, well, if there's
Speaker 1: one person that knows people that knew me when I
Speaker 1: was fourteen, would not expect to see this. Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: just tell you that.
Speaker 2: You know what, that's so true. I mean, no one
Speaker 2: stays the same from who they are now to who
Speaker 2: they were when they were fourteen. It's kind of stupid.
Speaker 1: You gotta evolve.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're right.
Speaker 1: Okay. You want to hear some ghost voices? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: we do this one thing on this podcast. It's called
Speaker 1: EVP or ev pase. Do you know what EVP is?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It's like, no, actually tell me.
Speaker 1: It's electronic voice phenomena. So it's basically when ghost hunters
Speaker 1: catch a ghost saying something and then people put them
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Now, this is from MT Paranormal, not empty
Speaker 1: m T the two letters, and this is at an
Speaker 1: old hotel in Bozeman, Montana. What does this sound like
Speaker 1: to you?
Speaker 2: Play it again?
Speaker 1: It's like, ama, I hear it? Do you hear any words?
Speaker 2: It kind of sounds like, guys, come on.
Speaker 1: Guys, come on. That's a good one. Okay, Well, here's
Speaker 1: some options. Is it a finally? Honestly, it sounds to
Speaker 1: me like like a Karen Lady, like finally, like she's
Speaker 1: been in line? Is it b by Avelyn? Which is
Speaker 1: kind of like by Felicia, but like by Avlin? Remember
Speaker 1: that by Felicia?
Speaker 2: That was such a thing, right?
Speaker 1: Is it c quiet Emily or d I'm it's not
Speaker 1: really anything.
Speaker 2: Actually it does sound like quiet Emily.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me play it again, because that's what they think.
Speaker 1: It says, yeah, yeah, quiet Emily. And I don't know
Speaker 1: who Emily is, but she's being loud and wait, that
Speaker 1: was a ghost, that's what they say.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's such a vocal ghost. Usually it's just like
Speaker 2: a little.
Speaker 1: Word like well, and they sound so differently sometimes like Okay,
Speaker 1: I have one more for you, and this one is
Speaker 1: more of like a whisper. Why is it not loading?
Speaker 1: One moment? This one? Okay? This was posted by Arkansas
Speaker 1: ghost Hunters and they did not say where this was recorded,
Speaker 1: but somewhere in Arkansas is my educated guess what is
Speaker 1: it saying? This one? Creep me out? Okay. Now, you
Speaker 1: can definitely hear somebody either tap dancing or just like
Speaker 1: walking in a heel in the background, but then you
Speaker 1: can hear a whisper over top of it and I'll
Speaker 1: play it again.
Speaker 2: Ill that one is creepy.
Speaker 1: It's really creepy. Yeah, any guesses?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I can't make out anything. It's just creepy.
Speaker 1: Okay, is it A I'll be back again? Is it B?
Speaker 1: My cousin's a man? Is at C because I can?
Speaker 1: Or D peanut chicken? Maybe a chicken a peanut chicken dish?
Speaker 2: Okay, gosh, that one's weird. I would think it was
Speaker 2: see what was see?
Speaker 1: Because I can? That's what they say. Okay, but here
Speaker 1: I put this. I didn't include this part just because
Speaker 1: I wanted to show, like, how how good I think
Speaker 1: it sounds what they said. What the lady in the
Speaker 1: video says is why do you stay here? And then
Speaker 1: it replies, haro, I'll lip sync it since we're doing
Speaker 1: visuals and I'm a drag queen.
Speaker 2: Ew, you're right, so scary scary?
Speaker 1: Can you tell people like what's going on? Where we
Speaker 1: can find you? I'm sure so many people listening to
Speaker 1: this already love you. But you do all the things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can find me on YouTube if you
Speaker 2: look at Bailey Sarian or Murder Mystery and Makeup. Usually
Speaker 2: I come up. But every Monday, I do Murder Mystery
Speaker 2: makeup where I sit down and talk and I talk
Speaker 2: about true crime while I do my makeup, and you
Speaker 2: can find me on Instagram. I feel like I'm really
Speaker 2: active on Instagram stories and whatnot, Facebook, Pinterest, Twitter, TikTok
Speaker 2: you know all of them, Bailey Sarian and totally yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and also for people listening that are paranormal believers
Speaker 1: or fans, like pretty much everyone that listens to this show.
Speaker 1: You also have talked about paranormal stuff as you're doing
Speaker 1: your makeup too, So yeah, like I was thinking The
Speaker 1: moth Man, I could recommend you also did the Haunting
Speaker 1: and Connecticut One. Yes, the what is their last name? Snat?
Speaker 1: I think it's the family.
Speaker 2: They's a daycer something like. It's along those lines.
Speaker 1: Yes, And that story is good.
Speaker 2: It is, and it's It's so hard to talk about
Speaker 2: ghost stories because I feel like when you're watching a
Speaker 2: documentary or the footage, it's more creepy. I don't know,
Speaker 2: because it kind of creates this whole visual of like
Speaker 2: what it looked like and what they're seeing and stuff.
Speaker 2: And when I'm talking and doing my makeup, I feel
Speaker 2: like it's hard to express like how creepy it was,
Speaker 2: you know, because it's like you need almost see it.
Speaker 2: So that's why, like I do some ghost stories, but
Speaker 2: I struggle with with verbalizing how spooky it is. You know.
Speaker 1: No, I think you do a great job, because I
Speaker 1: mean I also typically this podcast is only audio, and
Speaker 1: it's just like with books, Like you know when there's
Speaker 1: a book you love and then they turn into a
Speaker 1: movie and you're like, wait, this is not what I
Speaker 1: was thinking. It's like that kind of thing where the
Speaker 1: mind's imagination of what this is like just from hearing
Speaker 1: it is sometimes wayt spook here.
Speaker 2: That's very true, you know, like.
Speaker 1: In a horror movie when they don't show the killer ooh,
Speaker 1: because in your mind that could be anything, not some
Speaker 1: like shitty cgi thing or whatever they end up showing you.
Speaker 2: That's true. I never really thought about it that way,
Speaker 2: but yeah, when they don't show the killer, it's almost
Speaker 2: more scary because you don't know what it is. And
Speaker 2: then when they show the killer or the alien or
Speaker 2: whatever it is, you're like, oh, that kind of like
Speaker 2: an yeah that I just watched Signs the other day.
Speaker 1: That's the one that I was thinking about as I
Speaker 1: was saying this whole thing. The first time I sold
Speaker 1: signs in theaters, I was like, this is so scary.
Speaker 1: They're not really showing us. And then there's like the
Speaker 1: scene where I want to say they're at like a
Speaker 1: birthday party or something, and they show like a clip
Speaker 1: and there's like you see it, and you're like, I
Speaker 1: think I could take that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was so mad. I watched it the other day
Speaker 2: and they show the alien like running from out of
Speaker 2: the bush and I was like, oh, you guys just
Speaker 2: ruined it with that one clip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh well yeah it though, but that that haunting
Speaker 1: and Connecticut one. I one night started youtubing and I
Speaker 1: found like some old daytime talk shows. I can't remember
Speaker 1: exactly which one, but like that had the family on
Speaker 1: and they're like telling the story and there's like some
Speaker 1: pretty cool clips out there of them talking about it.
Speaker 2: So I just filmed for this coming Monday's upload another
Speaker 2: ghost story and which one the why Rick family? Are
Speaker 2: you familiar with them?
Speaker 1: What's that? So it's, uh, this will come out after
Speaker 1: you've already released that, Okay.
Speaker 2: Cool. So it's about this family who moves down to
Speaker 2: Georgia and they move into like their first home and
Speaker 2: their youngest daughter, she's only three years old. She makes
Speaker 2: a friend, it's imagine friend, and her mom asked like, oh,
Speaker 2: who's your friend? You know, tell me about her, and
Speaker 2: she's like, Mom, his name is mister Gordy and he's
Speaker 2: an old man who wears all black in a top hat.
Speaker 2: And she the mom is obviously a little concerned because
Speaker 2: usually an imaginary friend is someone of the same age
Speaker 2: as you, you know, but she would talk about mister
Speaker 2: Gordy every single day, like this ghost or whatever it
Speaker 2: was was always around. So finally she calls up the
Speaker 2: previous homeowners and she comes over, shows the little girl,
Speaker 2: the three year olds a bunch of photos and she's
Speaker 2: able to point out mister Gordy, who was I don't
Speaker 2: know if he lived there, I can't quite remember, but
Speaker 2: he lived there at some point and he had died,
Speaker 2: and yeah, so that's who her friend was. Then the
Speaker 2: little girl saw another guy or another spirit who was
Speaker 2: covered in blood and missing a hand.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, Now, how do you end up
Speaker 1: as a ghost like that? Like, how come mister Gordy
Speaker 1: you got to wear men's wear, I know? And then
Speaker 1: that guy ended up with a missing hand.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess mister Gordy was like just a businessman.
Speaker 2: He made a lot of money. He took care of
Speaker 2: himself and the other guy. I guess he worked in
Speaker 2: like a cotton gin cotton factory something. It was like
Speaker 2: a pretty dangerous job, and he lost his hand at work,
Speaker 2: and then he died of cancer not long after. But
Speaker 2: he also lived at that house, so she was able
Speaker 2: to see him and point him out when they showed
Speaker 2: her photos. And then as times went on, I guess
Speaker 2: the entities got darker and more aggressive, so it would
Speaker 2: like mess with this little girl and pull her hair,
Speaker 2: pinch her, scratch her, and then it started going after
Speaker 2: their father. He would wake up with scratch on his
Speaker 2: face and on his body. And this would happen like
Speaker 2: almost every single night. And then the mom would say
Speaker 2: that she could hear whispering late at night. Sorry, there's
Speaker 2: a fly, she would hear whispering.
Speaker 1: Some people think that flies are paranormal. Really, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: have you ever seen the Amnival horror? There's like the
Speaker 1: flies all over the house. Oh yeah, oh shit, I
Speaker 1: conjured it.
Speaker 2: Sorry, like there's always flies around. Sorry to interrupt, No,
Speaker 2: it's okay. I forget what I was. Oh, okay, So
Speaker 2: the spirits were getting more aggressive over time, and then
Speaker 2: they bring in a paranormal investigator something along those lines.
Speaker 2: They're walking around the house, and then they determined that
Speaker 2: their fireplace was a portal and a lot of different
Speaker 2: spirits were coming in and out. And Heidi, the youngest one,
Speaker 2: she had some kind of gift to where she could
Speaker 2: see she could see dead people, and as she got older,
Speaker 2: she said that no matter where they went, whether it
Speaker 2: was to the store or to their friend's house wherever,
Speaker 2: she would constantly see people that were dead walking around,
Speaker 2: and she had a hard time determining if they were
Speaker 2: real or if they were ghosts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine, I know, right, I never.
Speaker 2: Thought of it like that, Like how confusing that must
Speaker 2: be or scary in a way because you could see
Speaker 2: all of these spirits. Some of them, she said, were
Speaker 2: like covered in blood, missing limbs, like very graphic, and
Speaker 2: then other ghosts or spirits were just more kind and
Speaker 2: there to kind of help her guide her. So this
Speaker 2: poor girl, she was just kind of going through a
Speaker 2: lot of trauma. Because then the media caught hold of
Speaker 2: their story and the family was now being questioned, like
Speaker 2: they're just doing it for attention and all this stuff,
Speaker 2: and this poor little girl just wants to be normal.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, now she has all these
Speaker 2: different opinions coming at her. Everyone's telling her it's fake,
Speaker 2: that she's lying, and she's kind of just feeling overwhelmed
Speaker 2: with it all. But as she got she's still alive
Speaker 2: to this day, and she still says that she sees stuff. Eventually,
Speaker 2: the family moved out of the home, and all the
Speaker 2: spirits and whatnot still would visit her, and but the
Speaker 2: portal was in the house, so the new movers, I guess,
Speaker 2: got the portal with the home.
Speaker 1: In a fireplace.
Speaker 2: Yes, the idea of portals terrify me, Like I don't know,
Speaker 2: just the thought of spirits coming in and out, because
Speaker 2: you never know you're gonna get The psychic who went
Speaker 2: to that family's home was saying, like anybody can come
Speaker 2: through the portal, whether it's good or bad. Usually more
Speaker 2: often it's bad spirits because they're kind of like stuck
Speaker 2: in this limbo or they're I don't know, just angry,
Speaker 2: so they don't really cross over.
Speaker 1: You know. It's kind of like that what was that show?
Speaker 1: I watched in early Quarantine where it's like love is blind.
Speaker 1: Did you watch that show?
Speaker 2: Didn't?
Speaker 1: It's like people they're dating through a wall and they
Speaker 1: can't see each other, and then it's like a different
Speaker 1: person constantly. It's like you don't know what you're dealing with,
Speaker 1: you don't know who you're talking to. Yeah, So basically
Speaker 1: I think that that's what portals. I think it's like
Speaker 1: it's the same as a portal to the hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's terrifying. I don't I don't know. That
Speaker 2: part scares me. Demons and dark entities terrify me because
Speaker 2: I felt like at that apartment we were living in,
Speaker 2: that closet terrified me. And that feeling alone to have
Speaker 2: that all the time, Oh, that would be a nightmare.
Speaker 1: That well, because it feeds off of you, it's that's
Speaker 1: what it's. Its whole purpose is is to make you depressed,
Speaker 1: make you just in a worse in any way possible.
Speaker 2: I guess they try to get you as weak and
Speaker 2: vulnerable as they can. That way they can take over
Speaker 2: your body.
Speaker 1: So yes, I mean that's why you got to stay
Speaker 1: on your shit, you know, like you have to be
Speaker 1: That's I had an Exorcist on this show, and we're
Speaker 1: talking about raising your frequency. You got to make sure
Speaker 1: you're doing good things. You know, you got to be
Speaker 1: a good person if you're and it's I mean, it's like,
Speaker 1: especially nowadays for a lot of people, it's like it's tough,
Speaker 1: like you're feeling low and and that's what they look for.
Speaker 2: I know, it's scary. What do they do though, Like
Speaker 2: what's their goal when they take over your body? What
Speaker 2: do they what do they want? I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I know, what's that typical bully thing where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're just jealous, like you just want to be me?
Speaker 1: And like literally they do. They want to like get
Speaker 1: up in your business and be you right, and then
Speaker 1: they I think sometimes I don't know, we always.
Speaker 2: Have these dark, like raspy voices, these demons, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: come on, if you're gonna be a person, act like
Speaker 2: a person, okay, like try to blend in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're drawing attention. Yes, it's like nobody speaks Latin anymore.
Speaker 1: Why are you speaking Latin backwards? Like you're blowing your cover?
Speaker 2: Right? So I just I don't get that part, Like
Speaker 2: what is their end goal exactly? So that part was
Speaker 2: always like I'm curious about but I guess I'll never
Speaker 2: know to be a billionaire, you know, it's like the
Speaker 2: demon wants to take over and then what what are
Speaker 2: you going to do? Oh?
Speaker 1: I think I know if you Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: You are just an angel. I'm so excited that you
Speaker 1: came on and yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. And I love
Speaker 2: I love the blue. What palette is that?
Speaker 1: Oh this is just some drag queen some drag queenery.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I want to say, it's like
Speaker 1: straight up stage makeup. I have like some makeup that
Speaker 1: because I just moved and I've been like finding like
Speaker 1: old thing, which I know some people are like, don't
Speaker 1: do old makeup or whatever, it's bad, but like it
Speaker 1: still works. And so I found like all these like
Speaker 1: old drag queeny queenie like ben Nie stage makeup and stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why not? Thank you? Thank you so much
Speaker 1: to Bailey. If you do not know her work, go
Speaker 1: check out her videos her Instagram. She is always serving
Speaker 1: gorgeous makeup looks and she's just so charming and she
Speaker 1: does her research and she's just she's someone that it's
Speaker 1: a fun way to learn about some pretty morbid stuff
Speaker 1: a lot of the time. So just a reminder, there
Speaker 1: will not be an episode on this podcast feed next
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Speaker 1: they'll have EVPs and they'll have some ghost stories of
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