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Speaker 1: Let's begin. So wait, yep, Kevin Figures. My entire take

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Speaker 1: here is moved Adam Ousley. There's a conversation to be had.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're kicking the weekend.

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Speaker 2: If we will take you?

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Speaker 1: Sound good?

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Speaker 3: So excited Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: Here's F and A, Kevin Figures and Adam Oslet.

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Speaker 4: That is right, another edition of Fox Sports Saturday with

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Speaker 4: F and A. I am Kevin Figures. He is Adam Ausland.

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Speaker 4: You can find us on x at k fig one

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Speaker 4: and at follow Adam A. You got a big show

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Speaker 4: coming up for you guys tonight. A lot to get into.

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Speaker 4: You heard Steve the Sager's update there a second ago

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Speaker 4: talking about Roy McElroy's dominant performance through thirty six holes

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Speaker 4: that the Masters. We'll talk about that coming up later

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Speaker 4: in the show, and how his dominance is actually a

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Speaker 4: good thing for golf and the fact that it's not

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Speaker 4: a tighter race can actually be a positive.

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Speaker 5: Wait, dynasties are good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, more on that in.

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Speaker 5: A little bit that I'm pretty coming up pretty soon

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Speaker 5: as well. All right, later in the next hour, we're

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Speaker 5: gonna have a little Q and a our friend, close

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Speaker 5: personal friend. He likes us more than Colin Cowhard. I

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Speaker 5: can tell Kevin right.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't have to say it explicitly. We know what

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Speaker 4: Bree doesn't like that.

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Speaker 6: It's so funny. Okay.

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Speaker 5: Anyways, well it was just a joke. Yeah, Breebree's in

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Speaker 5: the house tonight. Mark loves it. We'll have great co

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Speaker 5: sell on NFL Expert. He'll break down the drafts, some

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Speaker 5: free agency moves. Of course, later this hour, we will

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Speaker 5: talk about one of my favorite video game creators, developers,

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Speaker 5: men of all time past and he created maybe the

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Speaker 5: best beat him up game of all time. Okay, and

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Speaker 5: he passed this week, so I wanted to pay respect

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Speaker 5: to him and his creation. Perfect. I love it. I

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Speaker 4: Also, we'll talk about a little bit later in the show.

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Speaker 4: Is it a hit piece If it's true, we'll talk

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Speaker 4: about that coming up as well. And also the return.

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Speaker 4: Since Bree is here, we got to put it to work.

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Speaker 4: So Breeze three is back.

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Speaker 5: We have to.

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Speaker 6: It's so funny.

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Speaker 5: Some things never changed, you know, he's here always in

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Speaker 5: Mark's in the house. We're gonna have a fun show

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Speaker 5: for it. We'll start things off with first off.

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Speaker 1: Go time's wrong.

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Speaker 4: We'll start with the lose Angeles Dodgers had a tilt

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Speaker 4: with the Texas Rangers tonight at Chavez Ravine, just close

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Speaker 4: to downtown Los Angeles, and uh Edwin Diaz came out

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Speaker 4: to Timmy Trumpet's three run leads. You're feeling good. He's

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Speaker 4: He doesn't. He allows four hits, three earned runs. They

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Speaker 4: a way to win yet again.

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Speaker 5: So when he gives it a save, do you use

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Speaker 5: the bump? Bump a bum? Is those the trumpets? That

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Speaker 5: are those? Is that the brass that gets used?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You slides up the victory cigar. He got a victory.

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Speaker 5: He's one to er. I guess into it. I mean, hey,

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Speaker 5: wherever you get it right.

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Speaker 1: In six games?

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Speaker 5: Is George Castanzas said to Jeter and Bernie Williams that

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Speaker 4: Just you know, the Dodgers and they come in at

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Speaker 4: so you see them a lot, don't. Well, it's just true.

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Speaker 5: I don't hate. Honestly, I am way past outside the

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Speaker 4: But any emotionally invested, I think you're professionally and financially

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Speaker 5: But outside of them, my heart no longer belongs with

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Speaker 5: my NorCal Sacramento team so much now. The Giants make

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Speaker 4: Well, the Kings too. They've been terrible since you.

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Speaker 5: Know, yeah, And the only good thing they did was

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Speaker 5: stay in Sacramento. Outside that, they've been a complete disaster.

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Speaker 4: Did you want them to stay? Yes, that's a product

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Speaker 5: Look, there will come a time the Kings will rise

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Speaker 5: again again from the ashes. Yes, today at one point

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Speaker 1: Bs now the phone for you most maybe.

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Speaker 5: Not Kevin Figures, most you know like that.

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Speaker 4: You give me game six, I'll tell you about the

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Speaker 4: moving screen in game five and Bab's game when he

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Speaker 5: There was a flopping like a fish played by Derek Fisher.

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Speaker 4: There jumpings and literally turned as it was a handoff.

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Speaker 5: That's an illegal screen.

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Speaker 4: In the nineteen sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, they're.

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Speaker 5: Not calling it in that spot, and Derek Fisher flopped

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Speaker 4: That's what we talk about it all the time. A

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Speaker 5: What makes it different? I agree with that, But look,

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Speaker 5: we don't need to revisit.

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Speaker 4: No, we don't, because we hear going on thousand and two.

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Speaker 4: Somebody'll listening right now, probably weren't even born when that happens.

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Speaker 5: Nor do we have to talk about You're Angels beating

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Speaker 5: Baker is a fool. We'll see. I wasn't going to

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Speaker 4: There are some people and that obviously this is the

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Speaker 4: dumbest thing I've ever heard. But because Dusty Baker was

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Speaker 4: of the dumbest conspiracy theories I've ever heard in my life.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll say this, him taking the ball out of

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Speaker 4: From a managerial issues, you know, in game adjustment has

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he had about he's the Doc Rivers of Major

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Speaker 5: But I'm sorry. He had many teams that were Championship

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Speaker 5: With some elite squads. Yeah, they underperformed very often. But

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Speaker 4: We're talking n thirties Yankees and stuff like that. We're

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Speaker 5: Know, I'm not talking about segregation championships. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 5: a lot to me, honestly anymore. I'm sorry, the Great Benbido, whatever,

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Speaker 4: The frustrating part you mentioned the great Otani one hit?

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Speaker 5: On Friday Night? A bum? Huh? And I want to

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Speaker 4: But in two sixty five not really being the dominant player,

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Speaker 5: Didn't he start slow? Last year? He did? He did?

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Speaker 4: But see, that's the issue at him, because they can

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Speaker 4: start this season ten to three. Kyle Tucker has been

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Speaker 4: great Tredy Freeman has gone off to a slow start.

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Speaker 5: I thought he got them like their first three wins.

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Speaker 4: Now, I would say over this past week, their last

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Speaker 4: the first home stand against Arizona he did not play,

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Speaker 4: not perform particularly well. But the problem is trade them.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter, Yeah, trade them away.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 4: He was great before he got injured, and then to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. You're surrounded by ol Tawani, Freddie Freeman. I

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Speaker 5: Smith's pretty good Max months he had the game winning

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Speaker 4: That's the thing, you know, because you talk about Otani

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Speaker 5: If it's not one thing, it's another. If it's not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but then yeah, Monthsy got four and Pa has

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Speaker 5: Two you know, Game seven, Hero hero, you know.

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing. You know, they have so much

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Speaker 4: if todmer Glass now doesn't have a great start like

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Speaker 4: Friday Night, you have a dominant bullpen. A if the

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Speaker 4: like Max Munsey and Andy Pie has to get you

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Speaker 5: Why not? Old of us, Zach Wheeler is still in

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Speaker 5: That that is upsetting. I'm sorry, you know what. I

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Speaker 4: I look, it's, you know, the Dodgers, the giant villain

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Speaker 5: Right, the first championship, they could have lost down to

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Speaker 5: That's why I'm saying no hitting in the World Series.

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Speaker 5: Well, I hope, so I want to see it be competitive.

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Speaker 5: But I would say they're almost like bumper bowling for

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Speaker 4: Hundred no doubt. Look, we're not having a salary cap.

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Speaker 5: for the Dodgers to at least be challenged, because then

438
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Speaker 5: there's a better argument that no, no, they could still lose.

439
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,560
Speaker 5: They could still lose. We don't have to tear everything

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Speaker 5: down and start over with the salary cap and everything.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I would say yes.

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Speaker 4: If you are a fan of Major League Baseball, then

443
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Speaker 4: you do not want to see a lockout. The best

444
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Speaker 4: thing for you and you're probably in this camp anyway, Again,

445
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Speaker 4: unless you're a Dodger fan, is for the Dodgers to lose,

446
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Speaker 4: and not only lose, probably lose early. The earlier in

447
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Speaker 4: the postseason the better.

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Speaker 5: But from baseball side, I do think this is really

449
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Speaker 5: good for the sport. Oh. I think I'm Dodgers being

450
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Speaker 5: the new evil Empire west side evil Empire instead of

451
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Speaker 5: the Yankees in the late nineties, and doing it the

452
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Speaker 5: way they have, I think is going to benefit the

453
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Speaker 5: sport because everyone's going to be watching them to hope

454
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Speaker 5: that they lose. Right, so we'll get at least one

455
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Speaker 5: more season of really good ratings for Rob Manford exactly,

456
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Speaker 5: even if it leads to a lockout, we're going out

457
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Speaker 5: with a.

458
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Speaker 4: Bang man all downhill. Is he he retiring? Is he

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Speaker 4: retiring after this year or it's after his contract runs out,

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Speaker 4: which I think is like two or three years from now.

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Speaker 1: You're out.

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Speaker 5: It can't happen sooner enough.

463
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Speaker 4: Now, you know what, he's actually done some positive things

464
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Speaker 4: after getting off to a rough start. I think the

465
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Speaker 4: last five years he's actually redeemed himself.

466
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Speaker 5: No, he kind of has. I mean, Bud Selig, he

467
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,000
Speaker 5: looks better after you know, history has been on his

468
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Speaker 5: side a little bit in some ways, just because I

469
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Speaker 5: know the steroid stuff and everything, but the wild card

470
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Speaker 5: and interleague play like, you gotta let things play out

471
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Speaker 5: for ten to fifteen years before you start grading these people.

472
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Speaker 5: It's kind of like a presidency. You gotta let it

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Speaker 5: play out a little bit. Although, you know what, Let's

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Speaker 5: get to our next break.

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Speaker 5: for you. Video Game Fact one of my favorite games.

502
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Speaker 5: The creator passed as of late as of this week,

503
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Speaker 5: and I want to pay my respects as we should

504
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Speaker 5: by talking about one of my favorite games ever that

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Speaker 5: he developed.

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Speaker 4: We'll get into that now. One of our favorite sports

507
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 4: in this country of the United States, obviously is the NFL,

508
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 4: and they obviously dominate TV ratings, they dominate merchandising, they

509
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 4: dominate everything, your Twitter feed, you name it. THEOJ is

510
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 4: not happy with the NFL.

511
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Speaker 5: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, as part of their anti trust agreement with

513
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Speaker 4: the Department of Justice, they have a right to bundle

514
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Speaker 4: all of the thirty two teams TV rights into one

515
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Speaker 4: national package. So this is why they have You don't

516
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Speaker 4: have a local TV deal like you do for NBA

517
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Speaker 4: teams or Major League Baseball. You have all these group

518
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Speaker 4: of games they go to Fox, and a group of

519
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Speaker 4: games they go to CBS, and certain games they go

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Speaker 4: to NBC.

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Speaker 5: I prefer the Fox games.

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Speaker 4: Right, to be honest with you, It's such a hodgepot

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Speaker 4: at this point in Tom, I don't even know if

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Speaker 4: it makes a difference.

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Speaker 5: Well, it used to be the NFC was on Fox

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Speaker 5: right and the AFC was on CBS, and being a

527
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Speaker 5: Carolina Panthers fan and we're going to Fox Sports Radio

528
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Speaker 5: Now I was a big Fox guy.

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Speaker 4: So much crossover between both networks and AFC games that

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Speaker 4: are on Fox now in NFC games, I have no

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Speaker 4: idea how the package works out when it comes to that.

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Speaker 5: It's still confusing to me. I need my Tom Brady

533
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 5: fix and he's on Fox. Maybe I don't so.

534
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Speaker 4: D OJ investigating whether the league is violating the terms

535
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Speaker 4: of that exemption by taking games away from its free

536
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Speaker 4: TV partners, So CBS, Fox, NBC over the air broadcast

537
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Speaker 4: TV that you can watch if rabbit ears are still

538
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Speaker 4: a thing anymore. I guess as digital intennas. Now, if

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Speaker 4: you're even old enough to know what rabbit ears are

540
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Speaker 4: on a TVR, you.

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Speaker 5: Ain't got digital.

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Speaker 1: You ain't got s.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But but now the problem is they're poaching games away

545
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Speaker 4: from those networks and giving them or selling them to

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Speaker 4: streaming services. So you know, obviously the last couple of

547
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Speaker 4: years we've had games on Netflix, we had one of

548
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Speaker 4: the classic ones was a playoff game on Peacock exclusively.

549
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Speaker 4: That was the infamous toa you know, folding in the

550
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Speaker 4: snow against the Kansas City Chiefs and somebody, a couple

551
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Speaker 4: of guys got frost bite. A couple of fans got

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Speaker 4: frostbite by sitting in the in the in the stands.

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Speaker 5: Wow, Atlanta fans right now are upset that you said

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Speaker 5: that about to Kevin. Okay, he would never fold in

555
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Speaker 5: the snow.

556
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Speaker 4: Never once losing. Yeah, you know, he was folding good

557
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 4: weather too, So what the held difference doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Make when it be fair, He's been folded in half

559
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Speaker 5: too many times is the problem.

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Speaker 1: It's dangerous. I'm worried about Tua.

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Speaker 4: I am too. I'm I hope he's making the right decision.

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Speaker 4: By continuing to play in our root for the guy.

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Speaker 4: Now rumor has it. Here's the thing. So, speaking of Fox,

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Speaker 4: so you know who owns Fox is Rupert Murdoch, who

565
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Speaker 4: also owns the Wall Street Journal, who broke this story

566
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Speaker 4: about the investigation into the NFL. In this situation, are

567
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Speaker 4: we allowed to talk about this or we're talking about it?

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Speaker 5: Are the black helicopters circles? I'm just steppiag going to

569
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Speaker 5: kick in the front door.

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Speaker 4: That's a you know, as every good conspiracy theorist says,

571
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Speaker 4: I'm just asking questions.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm hearing the extra I'm.

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Speaker 4: Not providing any answers. I'm just asking questions. So there

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Speaker 4: are some people who are saying, well, Rupert Murdock, who

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Speaker 4: owns Fox, Fox one of the major contributors or partners

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Speaker 4: of the NFL when it comes comes to airing all

577
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Speaker 4: of these games on free broadcast television victims if you

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Speaker 4: want to call them, that, of having some of their

579
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 4: games poached away, that he's the one who contacted the

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Speaker 4: Department of Justice or somebody in his camp to try

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Speaker 4: to poison the well or to try to really up

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Speaker 4: some negotiation tactics when it comes to Fox potentially trying

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Speaker 4: not to lose games in the future when talking about

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Speaker 4: negotiation negotiating their national TV package with the NFL. I

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Speaker 4: do not know if that is true or whether or

586
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Speaker 4: not this was brought upon by Rupert Murdoch, but that

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Speaker 4: is a rumor that has been thrown out there.

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Speaker 5: It feels like he's got a dog in a hunter

589
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Speaker 5: or a horse. Yes, yes, dog of the fight, horse

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Speaker 5: in the race.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he has a conflict of interest. He has Cletus,

592
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Speaker 4: the robot in the fight or something, whatever you want

593
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Speaker 4: to call it.

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Speaker 5: Cletus.

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Speaker 4: That's the name of the Fox robot right that holds

596
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Speaker 4: the football up it.

597
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Speaker 5: I never knew the name. His name is Kleatus.

598
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Speaker 4: So here's the problem.

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Speaker 5: Cletus Cassidy Like now now I'm thinking of ve Cardinal,

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Speaker 5: now smaxim of Carnage for network television. If all these

601
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Speaker 5: games are getting posched over to streaming, I'm really tired

602
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 5: of all of these leagues, every last one of them.

603
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Speaker 4: But the league's telling me that I have to sign

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Speaker 4: up for a new streaming service to watch their games,

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00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 4: and every last one of them has done it. The

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Speaker 4: NBA and their new TV package, Amazon Prime, Peacock By

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Speaker 4: the way, I don't know if it's this year or

608
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Speaker 4: next year. There's gonna be conference final games that are

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Speaker 4: only on Amazon Prime, like exclusively on Amazon Prime. Now

610
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Speaker 4: do most people already have Amazon, Yes, but everybody doesn't Netflix.

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Speaker 4: Netflix has had Christmas games for the NFL. Uh, They're

612
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Speaker 4: probably gonna put bit in for for a playoff game

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Speaker 4: or two in the future.

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Speaker 5: Is getting more and more sports. They are have the

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Speaker 5: WWE now I think they do. They got all.

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Speaker 4: The gimmick boxing matches. Of course they've had the last

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Speaker 4: couple of years.

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Speaker 5: They do well.

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Speaker 4: I mean they do, But I will say there was

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Speaker 4: a stretch of time where I did not have Netflix.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Now I did jump back in before they started getting

623
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Speaker 4: their sports packages.

624
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Speaker 5: But what were you two being chilling? How do you

625
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 5: Netflix and chill if you don't.

626
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Speaker 4: Have That's a good I survived Dallas. I was doing

627
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: just fine. Peacock. I did not have, you know, and Peacock.

628
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Speaker 4: And that was where I drew a line in the sand.

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Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, Bernie Frido, who used to

630
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Speaker 4: be in this time slot a few years ago, I

631
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 4: actually did a topic on this about that that to

632
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Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins Kansasity Chiefs playoff game that was only going

633
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Speaker 4: to be on Peacock, and we pulled a lot of

634
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Speaker 4: listeners and they were like, I'm not paying. I don't

635
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Speaker 4: care if it's five dollars a month or a one

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Speaker 4: month free trial. The NFL prints money. You're not taking

637
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Speaker 4: more of my money away so I can watch one

638
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Speaker 4: playoff game. I'd rather go to a bar.

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Speaker 5: They specifically did it with that one game initially, that

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Speaker 5: playoff game. They paid for those rights because they wanted

641
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 5: to get Peacock off the ground correct. That's when they

642
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 5: first introduced the streaming platform here.

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Speaker 4: It had been around for a couple of years at

644
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Speaker 4: that point, but it was flailing. It was very much flailing.

645
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Speaker 5: To have another merger.

646
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 4: They were trying to find a way to get some

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Speaker 4: more juice and get some more some more subscriber and

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Speaker 4: putting NFL exclusive games on Peacock was a big way

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Speaker 4: for them to do that, and they got a lot

650
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Speaker 4: of subscribe and you know, all this works, people sided.

651
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: They're hoping that people sign up and forget that they

652
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 4: signed up and there's six ninety nine a month coming

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Speaker 4: out of their their their their check account.

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Speaker 5: Hey not if you cancel in the first seven days.

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Speaker 4: Kevin, Yeah, because everybody remembers to do that. Just well,

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Speaker 4: cheap wads like me will remember that. But ninety percent

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Speaker 4: of people have no idea. They sign up for it,

658
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Speaker 4: they watch their game, and they keep on pushing and

659
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: they totally forget.

660
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you have to manage all these different

661
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 5: streaming services now, which this is life in the call

662
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 5: the cord for then, well, we thought it was a

663
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 5: good idea difference, Kevin, do you remember how awesome it

664
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Speaker 5: failed at first to cut the cord. They're like, all

665
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 5: I need is internet from these companies, and I don't

666
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 5: need this whole cable package. I'm going to save millions.

667
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 5: And now we're talking about rebundling because all it is

668
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 5: is online channels and you have to subscribe to all

669
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Speaker 5: of those to get their exclusive content for shows that

670
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Speaker 5: are on there.

671
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Speaker 4: It's extremely frustrating. I saw this earlier today. So it's like,

672
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Speaker 4: if you subscribe to everything, if you were able to

673
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: have access to every NFL game, you'd pay over one

674
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Speaker 4: thousand dollars a year.

675
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 5: What so, what does that mean?

676
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 4: So whatever Sunday ticket, so whatever streaming service or cable

677
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 4: satellite service that you would have so that you would

678
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: have ESPN and NFL Network. You'd have to have those two, right,

679
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: You'd have to pay for Amazon Prime, you have to

680
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: pay for Netflix. Okay, you'd have to pay for Sunday

681
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 4: Ticket through YouTube.

682
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Speaker 5: TV, and then Peacock and Peacock.

683
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Speaker 4: All of those together is around one thousand dollars a

684
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: year that you would have to pay to watch if

685
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Speaker 4: you wanted to have the access to watch every single

686
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Speaker 4: NFL game.

687
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Speaker 5: But then you're the cock of the walk in your neighborhood.

688
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 5: I got all the games, are you? And then you're

689
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: charged people coming and watch at your house.

690
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Speaker 4: I guess it's gouging to the nth degree. And by

691
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 4: the way, from a business standpoint, I understand it. I

692
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: don't even know if I can say i'd but grudge

693
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: them because people can play about the NBA and the

694
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 4: ratings suck, and we say like, well, they're still making

695
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 4: money and signing all these deals because these streaming services

696
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 4: are willing to go for broke to bring them in.

697
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Speaker 5: I don't know if you believe, you know, it depends

698
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 5: on who says it. And if the NBA official account

699
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 5: says ratings are up this year, I don't know if

700
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 5: you want to believe that. But numbers are hard to fudge.

701
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 5: I mean, you can go to Nielsen and find them.

702
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: They're not making them up.

703
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 5: Not enough people maybe double check, but all the pals.

704
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 4: Like people have agendas and just throw things out there

705
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: and don't check them, and they just they pander to

706
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Speaker 4: their fan bases and just say things they aren't true.

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Speaker 1: They say they're doing well.

708
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Speaker 4: Yes, and doing better. Their numbers are up. I will

709
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Speaker 4: say that.

710
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Speaker 5: They've had some big games, and I think the thunder

711
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 5: Nuggets game recently with a back and forth with SGA

712
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 5: and Nikol Jokic, had the highest ratings of any game

713
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Speaker 5: in twenty five years or something like that. And the

714
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 5: NBC games are doing really well too. But is the

715
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Speaker 5: consumer doing well in all of this? And I know

716
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 5: these people don't care because if you're in southern California,

717
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 5: we dealt with this for like five years with the

718
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 5: Dodgers and to.

719
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 4: A lesser extent, the Lakers for a couple of seasons too.

720
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Speaker 5: That is crazy to me, because they sold them for

721
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 5: such a high price to Spectrum for them to make

722
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 5: their money back. They were holding out to either not

723
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 5: be on direct TV until they anted up. Yep, this

724
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 5: was an absolute cluster f For years now it worked

725
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 5: for us a five seventy We got all the Dodgers

726
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 5: games for you on the radio side, and baseball is

727
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 5: great on the radio. Uh. I just think, Yeah, it

728
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 5: has gotten to a point, maybe a tipping point where

729
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 5: a lot of people are being more shoosy, especially in.

730
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Speaker 4: This economy, like a tipping point to a point the

731
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: streaming is.

732
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 5: Just out of control. How many channels there are?

733
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean even look major League Baseball they had

734
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: I think last years when it expired, but they would

735
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Speaker 4: have a game a week that was like on a

736
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Speaker 4: road pool. Well, Apple is still there. They had Roku,

737
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Speaker 4: which I knew. Roku was like a you know, a

738
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Speaker 4: tvo ish or like an Amazon fire sticks.

739
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Speaker 5: And Joy that cleans my floor, the little robot.

740
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Speaker 4: No, no, that's the uh, that's the roomba.

741
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Speaker 5: The Roku.

742
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Speaker 4: Roku I thought was it was like a streaming service hub.

743
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: I didn't realize actually I had a channel. I didn't

744
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: know that basically Baseball would exclusively put games I think

745
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 4: Sunday morning games or something on Roku. I remember having

746
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 4: to sign up for Roku just so that I can

747
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 4: watch a Dodger game, and I think a couple of

748
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 4: weeks later an Angel game.

749
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Speaker 5: Well just for that. Look, I'm an NBA junkie. I

750
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 5: already have Amazon Prime anyways, because I buy stuff off

751
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 5: there and feel like I'm saving money all the time.

752
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 5: And I'll buy my toilet paper off there. Whatever you

753
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 5: use up to my front door.

754
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 4: Did you have peacock beforehand?

755
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 5: I did not know. I do have Peacock now because

756
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 5: I need those NBA games that I need to listen

757
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 5: to my guy.

758
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: Noah Eagle, of course.

759
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Speaker 5: But I know everybody feels like that, and a lot

760
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 5: of games are still on NBC at least it's cool

761
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 5: seeing that, and there's NBC.

762
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 4: ABC has their set of games here and there.

763
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 5: It just at what point are you cutting off your

764
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 5: nose to spite your face, because down the line, like,

765
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 5: are you losing a fan base and it's going to

766
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 5: hurt you eventually. Even though let's say the NBA they

767
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 5: got the eighty billion dollar media Rice Deald they just

768
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 5: did this past year, it looks great now, but if

769
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 5: your overall core fan base is eroding because the games

770
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 5: are so spread out like the Tower of Babble with

771
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 5: the languages or whatever. You don't know where to find them, Like,

772
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 5: in the long run, could that actually hurt you? Or

773
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 5: are they gonna have it fixed by then they'll get

774
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 5: their next media deal it will be two hundred billion dollars.

775
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 5: I don't know. I guess they're betting on that being

776
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 5: the case that we're all gonna come around now. Im

777
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 5: Silver's gonna fix tanking and all these things.

778
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 4: Their fallback is, you know, and I know, we gotta

779
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: get out of here, bree, But their fallback is, like,

780
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: there's the one premium thing that you have to watch

781
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 4: live nowadays is sports, and sports fans are not gonna

782
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 4: want to go back and watch something recorded or on

783
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 4: tape delay or whatever. And if you are a big

784
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 4: enough fan of a particular sport, like you are the

785
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 4: NBA over a particular team, Hulu has sports, you will

786
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 4: go out of your way, even if you're gonna be dragged,

787
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: kicking and screaming most of the time.

788
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 5: To be able to do it.

789
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 4: The NFL can say, all right, Kevin figures might not

790
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: want to spend five ninety nine a month, so we

791
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 4: can sign up for Peacock for a game, but we

792
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 4: don't need him to do it. We need four thousand

793
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 4: people to do it, or however me, whatever their metric is.

794
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 4: We don't need four million people. We just need a

795
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 4: certain amount. And of those certain amounts, they're gonna stay

796
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 4: subscribed to. Peacock's gonna be happy. We're gonna be happy,

797
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 4: and we're all gonna end up winning. People are gonna

798
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 4: complain about it, but the majority of them, because we're

799
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 4: the NFL specifically and we're king people are gonna follow

800
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 4: us wherever we go. Yeah, how long that lasts? Probably

801
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 4: the next fifty years. If I'm gonna be honest with you, I'll.

802
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 5: Say this though, when it comes to the DOJ investigating

803
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 5: the NFL.

804
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 4: For this, I don't think anything comes to this, to

805
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 4: be honest with you.

806
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 5: It's just pandering, That's all it is. To all of

807
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 5: us people shaking our fits right now. So it makes

808
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 5: us feel like the government's working for us or they're

809
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 5: actually doing something in the best interest of the public here.

810
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 5: But nothing's gonna happen.

811
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 4: Well, I think they should do, and they're not sorry sorry,

812
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 4: by what they should be able to sell games, if

813
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 4: not ala carte, at least be able to sell one

814
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 4: team at a time. And I force you to buy

815
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 4: Sunday ticket, buy every single game.

816
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 5: I heard a guy spin it on CNBC yesterday talking

817
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 5: about this, saying quickly here, yeah, that well, technically you

818
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 5: get ninety percent of NFL games in your market, and

819
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 5: what they're.

820
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: Saying, that's what the league says. Yeah, you can watch.

821
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 5: Your local teams in ninety percent of the market. You

822
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 5: don't have to necessarily pay extra to watch the Chargers

823
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 5: or the Raiders if you're in Southern California.

824
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 4: Because game, because even if that game is on Prime

825
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 4: or somewhere, they're going to put it on a local

826
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: TV station in your market. But that's that doesn't help

827
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 4: me if I'm a Raider fan and la that's the

828
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: people you're talking.

829
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 5: So everything's fine right now, and you're good. I guess so.

830
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 5: NFL's king will still pay whatever it takes. But maybe

831
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 5: those people that made that stand against Peacock, they'll still

832
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 5: draw that hard line and not cross it, and that

833
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 5: will send the message necessary to get some change eventually.

834
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: We'll see what's coming up next.

835
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 5: In gig news, we got to celebrate one of my

836
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 5: favorite video games ever because the creator died this week.

837
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 5: It's not sad, We're celebrating. I'm out of Oslin. He's

838
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 5: getting figures. This is FNA on FSR.

839
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Speaker 1: Remember, all I'm offering is the truth, nothing more.

840
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 4: FNA Cotton f and A on FSR. Coming up in

841
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 4: ten minutes, we will have the Great Grand co Sale

842
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 4: to talk about some of the top prospects in the

843
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 4: NFL Draft. That's coming up ten minutes from now. But

844
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: right now, what's an loan?

845
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 5: You're playing D and D tonight?

846
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 4: You want to come case?

847
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 1: What's up? Guys?

848
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 6: Won't be chill still, I've been chining online.

849
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 5: With fabs all day.

850
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: Just keep your power plus off her passion right out.

851
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 5: Kenlan Well sad to report I'm gonna butcher his name

852
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 5: and make this way worse. Okay, co creator of River

853
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 5: City Ransom and Double Dragon, passed away this week. His

854
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 5: name Yoshihisa Kishimoto's pretty good. Kevin's pretty I got it right,

855
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 5: Yoh yeah, Okay, let's go.

856
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 4: You know, the Brick likes to listen to our show,

857
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 4: so if he's listening, he'll he'll chime in and correct us.

858
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 5: Yeah he better vic. Oh, there's my Double Dragon.

859
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: Let's go.

860
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 5: Okay, me and Double Dragon. This is a big deal

861
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 5: because it was technically the first video game I ever got.

862
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 5: Oh in what form the Tiger Electronics handheld that was

863
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 5: putting my stocking in like nineteen eighty nine. Damn, you're

864
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 5: old Me and my cousin f you, Michael, don't make

865
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 5: me grab the batter of the crowbar the width that

866
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 5: they use in Double Dragon. Here, Kevin, we both we

867
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 5: each got one in our stocking, and it was kind

868
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 5: of a race to see who could beat it first.

869
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 4: You can guess who won, of course, Yes, I can

870
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 4: only imagine it was Mikey.

871
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 5: No, it was me. I think it was me. So

872
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 5: this game, it just it's everything. I have a Double

873
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 5: Dragon two Nees poster. This is the Nees music for

874
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 5: the original port over from the arcade on my wall.

875
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 5: A Double Dragon two poster. I think it has some

876
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 5: of the best artwork ever. Yeah, like holding the Girl,

877
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 5: the Girl Marian. I mean, is there ever a better

878
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 5: start to anything than the start to Double Dragon where

879
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 5: the garage door opens with Billy and Jimmy Lee going

880
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 5: to avenge and get their girl Marion back, who gets

881
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 5: punched in the stomach and thrown over the henchman's shoulder

882
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 5: as they take her away. Sounds amazing.

883
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: That's a good hook.

884
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 5: I think of great openings.

885
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 4: I think of a woman getting punched into the stomach

886
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 4: and thrown over the shoulder of a guy and being

887
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 4: hauled away.

888
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 5: That's that does it for me? Right there? And then

889
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 5: two white Knights come along. Yeah. Literally, Look, maybe it's

890
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 5: dated in some ways. Even worse, it's they get her

891
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 5: back at the end of Double Dragon. And remember at

892
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 5: the very end of the first one, if you're going

893
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 5: two player, you have to fight.

894
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 4: Each other, don't you, Yes, you do for her.

895
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 5: It's a showdown at the end to see who gets marrion.

896
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 4: Which seems kind of ass backwards, But all.

897
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 5: Right, against a bad guy with a machine gun, does.

898
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 4: You have like a common enemy and all of a

899
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 4: sudden you become your enemy each other? I don't seems

900
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 4: a little backwards to me.

901
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 5: Do you know how Double Dragon two starts. I don't remember. No,

902
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 5: she gets shot. They don't bunch her in the stomach.

903
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 5: She gets shot, and I guess they're trying to avenge

904
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 5: her death at that point.

905
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 4: But uh oh wait, so no, it's not that she

906
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 4: got shot like fifty but she like literally got killed.

907
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 5: He gets killed at the very beginning by the machine

908
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 5: gun guy. I think, oh, this like video games that

909
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 5: are marketed to children. The stakes were real good God

910
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 5: level up Kevin. Yeah, with the program. This is a

911
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 5: hardcore beat them up side scroller, a brawler, and I

912
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 5: think I don't know if it technically is the original

913
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 5: beat him up brawler. I'm gonna say it is to

914
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 5: give our respect to Yoshi, he's a Kishi Molto. But

915
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 5: I would say in the same way that Wolfenstein three

916
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 5: D is the first first person shooter and everything else

917
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 5: after that, doom Blake, Stone Blake, all those games, they're

918
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 5: kind of clones of it. Yep. I think every beat

919
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 5: them up game is in some way a clone of

920
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 5: what Double Dragon started.

921
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully a lot less gruesome, you know, like you

922
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 4: could have a little bit of realism, but you can

923
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 4: also mix in like, you know, a sixteen year old

924
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 4: on Rollerblade kicking a Grome dude's ass, like skate in

925
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 4: a streets to rage.

926
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, give me a little bit more family friendly. Yeah.

927
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 5: Also in Double Dragon three fun fact, the one that

928
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 5: was poured over to the nes this is kind of embarrassing.

929
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 5: The text says Bimmy and Jimmy Lee instead of Billy

930
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 5: and Jimmy Lee, and they just left that in the game.

931
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: The programmers, you know, costs just too much to go

932
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 4: back and retroactually take it all out.

933
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 5: That had nothing to do with Kishi Molto though, I

934
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 5: don't think he had anything to do good no, no, no,

935
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 5: no no, he just started the series. They bastardized it

936
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 5: later on.

937
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 4: Nowadays you can just you know, have a download to

938
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 4: fix that back then you have to actually mail it

939
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 4: back into the manufacturer and they have to send you

940
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: a new one.

941
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 5: It's a whole thing. Double Dragon three D Arcade game

942
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 5: was like the first DLC. You could put in more

943
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 5: quarters to level up and upgrade with weapons and stuff. Nice.

944
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 4: That's beautiful. I love Double Dragon in Peace. I will

945
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Speaker 4: not Butcher's name coming up next to the Great Great

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Speaker 4: Coming up in the next segment of the show, this

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Speaker 4: is why players don't vote for awards. We're gonna explain

965
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Speaker 4: to you exactly why players should not be allowed to

966
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Speaker 4: vote for their contemporaries for awards because quite frankly, no

967
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Speaker 4: disrespect to them.

968
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 5: They have no idea what the f they're doing. I

969
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 5: always say playing the game, knowing the game, and talking

970
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 5: the game are three different things. And a lot of

971
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 5: analysts have proved me right about that that we're former

972
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: players now analysts, and some are great at all three. Yes,

973
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 5: some could do it. Most are great at just one

974
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Speaker 5: of them. To be honest with you, yes, sir.

975
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: So we'll talk about that coming up in the very

976
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 4: next segment. But right now, NFL Draft just a couple

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Speaker 4: one of the best analysts to join us right now

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Speaker 5: Go aan drinking Dad, Thank you, Donny Well. With the

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985
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986
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989
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 5: on these players. Follow him at Greg Cosel on X Greg,

990
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 5: how you been. Thanks for joining us here on f

991
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Speaker 5: and an FSR.

992
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Guys. That's a lot of weight you

993
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: just put on me right there. I mean, that's like

994
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Speaker 2: seven hundred pounds work.

995
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Speaker 5: You can hold it down, just fie. Let's talk about

996
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 5: I got my weightiest question to start with here, and

997
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 5: I love asking this to great analysts because you're not going.

998
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 2: To ask to me like where guys are going to

999
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: get drafted? Are you?

1000
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 11: No?

1001
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 5: No, No, I want to get a little bit deeper

1002
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 5: into it than that. I want to know because I've asked,

1003
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 5: you know, Daniel Jeremiah this in the past and others,

1004
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 5: But what's the number one trait you look for in

1005
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 5: a quarterback coming out of college that you want to

1006
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 5: see translate to the NFL? What do you look for?

1007
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 5: Daniel Jeremiah said, poise. Others have said footwork. What are

1008
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 5: you looking at when you want to see how this

1009
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 5: guy could possibly make it at the next level.

1010
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: Well, that just shows you there's multiple answers to that question.

1011
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 2: So there's no one answer because it's it's more ultifaceted,

1012
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: and it's one reason why there's so many variable But

1013
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 2: I think two things to me would come to mind.

1014
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: The ability to see the field properly, and there's many

1015
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: elements to that, but the ability to see the field

1016
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: properly and the ability to place the ball with precision

1017
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: where it needs to be placed. Because think about this,

1018
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: if you can't throw the ball where you want to,

1019
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: you could do everything else right, you end up with

1020
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: nothing because you're not going to complete passes. So I

1021
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: would say the ability to see the field correctly based

1022
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 2: on the route concept versus the defense. However, it's taught

1023
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: to you. And then precise ball location. Those two things

1024
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: would immediately come to my mind.

1025
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 5: So we translate off of that too.

1026
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 4: Fernanda Mendoza, the people, the man that we most most

1027
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 4: of us believe is going to be the first overall pick.

1028
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 4: And when you evaluate him, what do you see as

1029
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 4: far as his translatability over to the NFL level. People

1030
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 4: are saying he's pumped up because it's not the strongest

1031
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 4: quarterback class and if it was a different class, he

1032
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 4: wouldn't be the first ring quarterback on the board. People

1033
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 4: have poketoles and saying like, well, he doesn't has to

1034
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 4: do a whole lot in Indiana. He makes a bunch

1035
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 4: of back shoulder throws, but out a bunch of other throws.

1036
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 4: Just in your evaluation, what kind of quarterback at the

1037
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 4: NFL level do you believe that Fernanda Mendoza can be.

1038
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: I like Mendoza. I mean, look, when I evaluate guys,

1039
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: the way I do it guys is I have a

1040
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: sheet where I have strengths, weaknesses, transition and other and

1041
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: you know I'm just watching With quarterbacks, I usually watch

1042
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 2: eight or nine games. It's not as if I just watch,

1043
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: you know, good plays or a couple of interceptions I watch,

1044
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: I go through eight or nine full games and watch

1045
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: a quarterback. So there's always going to be strengths and

1046
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: there's always going to be weaknesses that ideally need to

1047
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: be worked on. Overall, what Mendoza is to me, if

1048
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: he's to be become a really good NFL quarterback, is

1049
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 2: he has to become a higher level executor of a

1050
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: well schemed passing game and an efficient and consistent fall distributor.

1051
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: That's what he has to be. So, in other words,

1052
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: if to reduce it to the cliff Notes version, it

1053
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: would be he has to throw it to the right

1054
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: receiver at the right time, with the right kind of

1055
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: throw consistently. Now, can he make a play outside the

1056
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 2: pocket occasionally? Sure he can. He's not a true statue.

1057
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: Can you roll him out by design? Yes? But for

1058
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: the most part, he would make his bones as a

1059
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: big time NFL quarterback by being highly efficient from the pocket.

1060
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 4: And does that translate well into the Clint Kubiak system

1061
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 4: that he's going to going to be playing under what

1062
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 4: the Raiders. Does his skill set fit that sort of offense?

1063
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 2: Theoretically yes, although there'll be a learning curve because Clint

1064
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 2: Kubiak foundationally, what Klint Kubiak likes to do is put

1065
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 2: his quarterback under center and run the play action pass

1066
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: game that way. And by the way, under center play

1067
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: action is far more effective than shotgun or pistol play action.

1068
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: That's something that Mendoza will have to learn. But keep

1069
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: in mind he also had four offensive coordinators in four

1070
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: years in college, so we've shown the ability to learn

1071
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: and assimilate new ideas and new concepts. I'm sure that

1072
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak will do more RPO concepts with him because

1073
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: that's something he was very very good at it. Indiana,

1074
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: you mentioned the kinds of throws that he made. There

1075
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: are some things you did not see very much on

1076
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: his tape, and again we're not going to say he

1077
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: can't do it, but you just didn't see it. He

1078
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: didn't throw the ball between the numbers very much at

1079
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: the intermediate levels, and those kinds of throws require a

1080
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: certain kind of anticipation and timing and trust because those

1081
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: throws have to be made before the receiver gets to

1082
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: his spot. So those are things that he needs to

1083
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: work on. They'll need to be learned. Do I think

1084
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: he can do it, Yes, I do, but there's never

1085
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: a guarantee.

1086
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 5: Great co sales. Our guests here on FNA on Fox

1087
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 5: Sports Radio, Greg and talking about the Raiders, they had

1088
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 5: a little bit of drama with that transaction that fell through.

1089
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 5: Do you think it's going to end up being a

1090
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 5: blessing in disguise? With Max Crosby saying with the steam.

1091
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: Well, obviously Max Crosby is a really, really good player.

1092
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 2: So I mean the fact that he's still there, assuming

1093
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: health and all that, I mean that's a good thing.

1094
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: So are they better because he's still there? Yeah, I

1095
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 2: mean based on their roster. Now, you don't know what

1096
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: would have happened in terms of draft choices. But you

1097
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: know it's funny, guys. I don't work for a team obviously,

1098
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: so I don't think about hoarding draft choices the way

1099
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: teams do. I always think if you have really good players.

1100
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: You guys probably remember it was it a year or

1101
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: so ago when everybody was like, well, Patrick's or ten

1102
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: might be traded, and you were reading like, well, I

1103
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: don't want to give up a first round pick, And

1104
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, what are you nuts? The guy's

1105
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: like twenty three or twenty four years old at the time,

1106
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 2: and he's the best corner in football, and you're not

1107
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: willing to give up like the twentieth pick in the

1108
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: draft for Patrick's or ten because there's no guarantee you're

1109
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: getting anything close to that with any pick. So you know,

1110
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: if you have really good players and they're on your team,

1111
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: I think you're better off.

1112
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 4: So let's stick with defensive ends and transition off of

1113
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 4: Max Crosby and go to one of the more hotly

1114
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 4: debated topics when it comes to this draft, and that

1115
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: is Reuben Bain and how long or I guess how

1116
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 4: short you should say his arms are during his evaluation

1117
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 4: seeing him on tape. First of all, I'll ask, do

1118
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 4: you think that the short arm thing is really a

1119
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 4: big deal or is it something that's overblown? At number two?

1120
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 4: Is there a player comp throughout the history of the

1121
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 4: NFL that might have his certain traits but also was

1122
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 4: still able to be successful despite the fact that they

1123
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 4: had shorter arms.

1124
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: Well, you just raised the points that will be discussed

1125
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 2: in draft meeting because there's no one answer to that question.

1126
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: You have to decide how you feel what Bain is.

1127
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: Bain is a sought off, hyper physical, hyper competitive, tenacious

1128
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: four to three d n whose game is built on

1129
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: power and physicality. That's his game. His tape is very

1130
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: very good. Now Historically and teams do these kind of

1131
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: things when they evaluations, they go back and they look

1132
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 2: throughout recent history, there hasn't really been a player with

1133
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: arms that lane that short that's been a really, really

1134
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: good defensive end. So you have to balance the two. No,

1135
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 2: it's not a mathematical equation. There's no quantitative answer to that.

1136
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: You have to decide how you feel. You have to

1137
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: decide if watching Bain play and the tape is very good,

1138
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: there's no question whether that the way in which he

1139
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: plays that that translates to the league and that he

1140
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: can overcome shorter arms, which very few have. So where

1141
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: do you stand on that balance sheet? It's there's no

1142
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: easy answer to that.

1143
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 5: Greg, What about David Bailey out of Texas Tech. What's

1144
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 5: the comparison for him coming out? Is he just he's

1145
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 5: going to end up being that protypical monster in the league.

1146
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: Well, David Baily is is the best I think sure

1147
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: pass rusher in this group, and he's got a lot

1148
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 2: of tools in his toolbox, which for a college player

1149
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 2: is normally not the case, but he does have a

1150
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: lot of a big arsenal when it comes to rushing

1151
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: the quarterback. So I think Baally because he has a

1152
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: lot of those traits that are demanded to be a

1153
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: good edge rusher, including counters. I would bet that.

1154
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: He'll be able to do that.

1155
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: When I watched BALI the player I thought of, and

1156
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: just keep in mind, this player was not a star

1157
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: his first year. He didn't really become what we think

1158
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: of him today until his second year. The player I

1159
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: thought of watching David Belly was Nick Benito, and then

1160
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: Nick Benito did not become Like I said, he didn't

1161
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: do much his rookie season. And now Benino obviously was

1162
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: not a top five pick in the draft. I'm sure

1163
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: looking back people would say Gee should have been a

1164
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: first round pick, but he wasn't. Though, you know, I

1165
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 2: think Bally kind of made me think of Benito when

1166
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: I watched him, and we'll see, but he's a really

1167
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 2: good pure pass rusher.

1168
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 4: The great Greg Hosel joining us here on fn A

1169
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 4: on FSR. Let's stick with defense and talk about RBL

1170
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 4: Reese because there's a lot of people who are debating

1171
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 4: whether or not he should be strictly a pass rusher,

1172
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 4: whether or not you can stand him up and put

1173
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,959
Speaker 4: him in more of a role based on your film

1174
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 4: study and what you've seen. What do you think he's

1175
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 4: the best role for RVL rees to play at the

1176
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 4: NFL level.

1177
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: Well, he's He'd be split time between an edge player

1178
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: on the ball and an off the ball linebacker at

1179
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 2: Ohio State about equal number of snaps. I think most

1180
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: people would would argue that if as an edge player,

1181
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 2: you have a larger impact on the game. So I

1182
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 2: mean I see him as a potentially dominant edge pass rusher.

1183
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: I mean he is long, he's physical, he's powerful. Does

1184
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: he need more refinement, of course, you know he's only

1185
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: done this really for one year. But man, he has

1186
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: explosive power, strong, heavy hands. I would imagine some would

1187
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: look down the road and think that he could become

1188
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: like a Micah Parsons. I mean he is that powerful

1189
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 2: and athlete. I mean he had a one arm staff

1190
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: pass rush. I believe it was against Illinois when you

1191
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: just looked at it and said, Wow, that's just really big.

1192
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: So you know, I think that edge pass rusher to

1193
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 2: me would be the place I would play him, and

1194
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: I'd let him learn how.

1195
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 8: To do that.

1196
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 5: Greg We know, running backs over the last decade or

1197
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 5: so have been a little bit marginalized and taken later

1198
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 5: in the draft. But is Jeremiah Love going to buck

1199
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 5: the trend?

1200
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 9: There?

1201
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 5: Is he so generational you could take him top five,

1202
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 5: top ten.

1203
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: Well, generational is not a word I tend to use,

1204
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 2: but Jeremiah Love is a really good prospect, you know,

1205
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: I think of it this way. Guys, you know what

1206
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: you're looking for on offense as explosive players. You know,

1207
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: I think about b John Robinson twenty percent of his

1208
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: snaps last year he was detached from the formation. Love

1209
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: can do that, so it makes him more than a back.

1210
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: But even so, even if he's a back, think of

1211
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs and the explosiveness that he brings and the

1212
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: ability to put up six at any time. You know,

1213
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: Love can do that. He's He's kind of a combination

1214
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: of both guys, you know, of B John Robinson and

1215
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs, I mean Love. Some would argue he's the

1216
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: best prospect overall in this draft class. I'm not necessarily

1217
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: a big believer, and I know many are, and people

1218
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: stick by what they believe, and that's fine, but I'm

1219
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: not necessarily a big believer in sticking precisely to positional value.

1220
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: In other words, don't draft a running back high. You know,

1221
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: the guy is an explosive offensive weapon. You know, Kenyan

1222
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 2: Sadiq is similar in that regard. He's an explosive offensive weapon.

1223
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: You can figure out a way to get him touches

1224
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: where it's not just in the traditional you know, hand

1225
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 2: him the ball, although handing him the ball is not

1226
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: a bad idea either.

1227
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 4: Greg, We've seen a trend throughout the recent years, maybe

1228
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 4: even going back to the last couple of decades with us,

1229
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 4: just a lot of really good receivers that come out

1230
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: and aren't necessarily top ten, top fifteen, top twenty picks

1231
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 4: for someone who just watches the tape and evaluates these

1232
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 4: guys on a year in, year out basis, what is

1233
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 4: it about that position or how they're being coached, or

1234
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 4: maybe's of the physical talent? Why of any other position

1235
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 4: does it seem as if you could find an impact

1236
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 4: receiver later in the draft as opposed to having all

1237
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 4: of your studs towards the top.

1238
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this. Here's the way I would

1239
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: think about this. The NFL game I think has changed

1240
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: to some extent in that the old school thought of

1241
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: you have to have an X, you have to have

1242
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: a Z, you have to have a guy who's just

1243
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: a slot. I think that's changed. I mean, every team

1244
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: would like that X receiver, that single receiver to the

1245
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: short side of the field. That's a dominant player. But

1246
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 2: there's no one, you know, no big time guy like

1247
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: that in this draft class in my view anyway. But

1248
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: if you think about the NFL game, what do we

1249
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 2: see more of. There's more pre snap movement, there's more

1250
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: formation variation, there's more reduced splits. I think that the

1251
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: idea of just having you know, he's a slot, that's

1252
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: all he can do, I think we have to move

1253
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 2: beyond that. I think in this draft class there's a

1254
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 2: lot of guys who you would never say, you never

1255
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: compare them. Let's say to Jamar Chase. There's no Jamar

1256
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: Chase in this draft class. But there's a lot of

1257
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: guys who will get drafted high and depending on where

1258
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: they go, so much is dependent on deployment and scheme

1259
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 2: that they're in. Will they will catch a lot of

1260
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 2: balls and people will say, Wow, they're really good receivers,

1261
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: but they're not great in terms of just as an

1262
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 2: individual player.

1263
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 5: Greg and moving outside of the draft here, how well

1264
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 5: does Kyler Murray fit with KOC? Is that a perfect match?

1265
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 5: Will it be in an indictment on either guy if

1266
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 5: they're not successful?

1267
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 2: I got to tell you, guys, I'm fascinated by that

1268
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: because Kyler Murray has not been that kind of quarterback

1269
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 2: that we associate with a Kevin O'Connell offense. Now, maybe

1270
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: everything will change. Sometimes when quarterbacks and any player in

1271
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: any sport gets traded, a little humility becomes involved because

1272
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he realizes, gee, maybe I'm not

1273
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 2: as great as.

1274
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: I thought I was.

1275
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: You know, right now, it looks a little like it

1276
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: like oil and water, like it doesn't necessarily mix. But

1277
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell obviously would not have signed him without a

1278
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 2: plan in mind. You know, keep in mind that Kevin

1279
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: O'Connell was part of the staff back in Washington years

1280
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: ago when RG three was a rookie. Now, again, I'm

1281
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: not making the direct comparison between RG three and Kyler Murray,

1282
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: but the point I'm making is he was part of

1283
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 2: his staff that had to structure an offense and a

1284
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: passing game a little bit differently less traditionally because of

1285
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: the style of play of the quarterback. So Kevin O'Connell

1286
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: has some understanding of that.

1287
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: We'll let you run on this one, Greg, and I'm

1288
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 4: not going to ask you to get into the inner

1289
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 4: office politics. And he said, she said about the Philadelphia

1290
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 4: Eagles and the whole Jalen Hurts article that came out

1291
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 4: last week. But just generally speaking, when you have a

1292
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 4: player who allegedly and you know he does a certain

1293
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 4: thing well, leaning into what he does well and trying

1294
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 4: to fortify that versus trying to expand what they do

1295
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: and seeing if they can kind of branch out because

1296
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 4: other teams are going to make adjustments to what you

1297
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 4: do well. How does that dynamic work? Because we've seen

1298
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 4: throughout the years are certain teams that play a certain

1299
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 4: way they said, this is the way that we play,

1300
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 4: and we've had success doing it, and we're going to

1301
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Speaker 4: continue to do that, versus finding ways to be able

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00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 4: to refine your game and change things up so that

1303
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 4: teams are going to have to scheme differently for you

1304
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 4: as you move forward, how does that dynamic usually work well.

1305
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: They Obviously the front office has decided that Jalen Hurts

1306
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 2: is capable of running a totally different offense than he's

1307
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: run the last number of years, because you don't change

1308
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: your entire offensive staff that has a McVey shanahan background

1309
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 2: and bring that group in if you don't believe your

1310
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: quarterback and handle it. So they believe that, or they

1311
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't have done it. One would have to say that

1312
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: Howie Roseman has a pretty good track record. So to me,

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00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: it's a wait and see. It'll be a bit of

1314
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 2: a work in progress, you know, the soap opera stuff.

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00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: You know me, guys, I don't get into that, so

1316
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: I don't really care about all that other stuff. But

1317
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: clearly they believe that they needed an adjustment in their

1318
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: offensive approach to be a better and more explosive, more

1319
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 2: consistent offense, and they believe that Jalen Hurts can make

1320
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: the adjustment. He's a veteran quarterback. He's been in two

1321
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: of the last four Super Bowls, super Bowl MVP. You know,

1322
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: we can debate all these other things and short does

1323
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: he have certain strengths and some weaknesses. You can say

1324
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: that about a lot of quarterbacks, but he's a veteran

1325
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: now and they believe that he can adjust to a

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00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: brand new offense and thrive in it. So to me,

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00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: it's a wait and see.

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Speaker 5: I feel like we're going to be thriving in the

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00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 5: draft now because we are prepped thanks to Greg co Sell.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna hear him over the next couple of weekends

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00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 5: with Mike Harmon once again, and of course check him

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00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 5: up check him out on NFL Matchup on ESPN. Greg,

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00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 5: thanks so much for doing this once again here on

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Speaker 5: F and a M Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh love beating with you guys. Thanks so much.

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00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 4: I had like fifteen other questions I can ask Greg

1337
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 4: right now.

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00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 5: That's it. That's exactly the Raiders fifteen on the Raiders

1339
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 5: Resort Market. I kicked Mike Harmon out of the chair

1340
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 5: and I can do the show with h with Greg.

1341
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 5: Is that way you can set that up?

1342
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 6: It is texting Scott right now.

1343
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 5: Oh, perfect, perfect. He's brilliant, good, that's right.

1344
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 4: He is the nicest guy you'll ever meet.

1345
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, super good guy. We're lucky to have him, I think, Brian.

1346
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 6: Actually you know I was his producer originally.

1347
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, you broker the relationship with us in great co sell.

1348
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 5: So props to you definitely is why we had him

1349
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 5: on because you're back today and we're lucky to have you.

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Speaker 1: What what are you upset about?

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Speaker 5: What is the problem? So funny?

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01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 6: Okay, anyways, because I just feel like you're just like, uh,

1353
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 6: it's like you're embellis what you're saying.

1354
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 5: But it's almost like he's saying.

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01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 6: Grudgingly, begrudgingly yeah, Like, oh, I have to say this

1356
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 6: because she's gonna get mad if I don't, like, I

1357
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 6: feel like you have that kind of like I can

1358
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 6: read your mind, right, am I right?

1359
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 5: Maybe you're onto something I was gonna say I did.

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Speaker 6: He did sound like he actually really loved being on

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Speaker 6: the show. You were right.

1362
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Speaker 4: Coming up next, we have an update on the NBA

1363
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 4: MVP race. What do the players think? Are the players

1364
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 4: actually thinking? I think it's a party probably more accurate

1365
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 4: question to ask.

1366
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 5: Their player hating a little bit Kevin honestly.

1367
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Speaker 4: We'll talk about that coming up next.

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Speaker 5: F and A on FSR.

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Speaker 8: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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Speaker 8: listen live what these young bloods.

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Speaker 1: Have to understand that this game has always been it

1374
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: will always be about buckets.

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Speaker 4: FNA Cotton. We are back fn AL on FSR. Thank

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Speaker 4: you guys for joining us at k FIG one and

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Speaker 4: at follow Adam a is where you can find us

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Speaker 4: on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: Got some love or X? Excuse me? Got some love

1380
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 5: on X? How much love is as much love as

1381
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 5: we have in our mutual relationship with Gray cose Hell.

1382
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 4: Almost almost as much? But Craig, Craig see Okajima, I

1383
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 4: believe is how you pronounce his name? Says love's our show.

1384
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 4: Seahawks and Mariners fan go to Pacific Northwest, He says,

1385
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Speaker 4: elbow smashes all day. Giving love to double Dragon. He says,

1386
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Speaker 4: God bless you us A hashtag I love my wife

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Speaker 4: hashtag new dak ingrats of being a new dad there man.

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01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 5: Is he a new cat dad or new That's a

1389
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 5: good question because his photo Is he a cat daddy?

1390
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 5: Is too?

1391
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 4: Is of his cats? And Adam is a catman over here.

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Speaker 5: That's a real thing.

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Speaker 4: Regular Tony Gonsolin, Yeah, so I don't know if he's

1394
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Speaker 4: a cat dad or actual dad, but either way, congratulations.

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Speaker 5: To you, sir. I love your cats, Greg, and thank

1396
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 5: you for what Craig Craig and he did. He did

1397
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 5: point out a Bobo, the big guy, the big burley

1398
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Speaker 5: black guy.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he's gonna say black. Why do you look at

1400
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Speaker 4: me and hesitate?

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01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 5: The big burly black guy. Yes, yes he's black.

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01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: Actually, there's a green of Bobo.

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01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 5: So Bobo can be all kinds of forms, but a

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Speaker 5: Bobo is a beast, like that's the debo of the

1405
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 5: Double Dragon world. You don't know Bobo, you don't want

1406
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 5: to know Bobo. Bobo coming like he he's huge and

1407
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 5: he's just like one big muscle and he comes out

1408
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 5: of a brick wall. That's the first time you see him,

1409
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 5: at least in the arcade version. He just bounces out

1410
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 5: of there, and he's kind of like a in between

1411
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 5: mini boss before the big bosses. He's a recurring character,

1412
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 5: definitely pops up often, just like the girls and the whips.

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01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 5: The prostitutes, right, well, hold on, was it Lisa Lashes?

1414
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 5: What was her name?

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01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 4: I don't recall her name, but I don't believe there

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01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 4: are prostitutes. I don't know if I don't fucking could

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Speaker 4: firm or deny whether or not they were ladies of

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Speaker 4: the Night.

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Speaker 5: Well, we'll never know, because the creator died. We never

1420
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 5: got that answer.

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Speaker 4: If only we could have secured that interview at him,

1422
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 4: you know. So the voice that you heard with us

1423
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 4: coming back from break was the great legendary Bill Russell, who,

1424
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 4: ironically enough, when he says the game is always going

1425
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 4: to be about buckets, when he not to say that.

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01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 4: He wasn't a bucket getter, but he was more of

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Speaker 4: a bucket stopper. He was one of the best defensive

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Speaker 4: players in the sport. And talking about one of the

1429
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 4: best defensive players in the sport, he got me thinking

1430
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Speaker 4: about this poll from the Athletic that I on Friday.

1431
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 4: So the Athletic polled one hundred and fifty nine current

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Speaker 4: players in the NBA UH and pulled them about who

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Speaker 4: they believe should be the NBA MVP. Now, unsurprisingly, shake

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Speaker 4: Yogis Alexander dominated the vote, about almost forty percent of

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Speaker 4: the vote win.

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Speaker 5: In his favor. He was like, how many players were pulled?

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Speaker 5: One hundred and fifty nine, that's a lot. There's four

1438
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Speaker 5: hundred and fifty players in the league, so that's a

1439
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 5: healthy amount. That's over a quarter.

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Speaker 4: So coming up in second place was Nikola jokicch I

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Speaker 4: believe around twenty one and a half percent of the vote. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So then coming after that, we had a bit of

1443
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 4: a log jam between Luka Doncik, Kate Cunningham and Jalen

1444
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 4: Brown who all got eight percent or eight and a

1445
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Speaker 4: half percent.

1446
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 5: Of the vote. Which one's logjamming?

1447
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, coming in behind them, Victor Winbinyama five percent of

1448
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 4: the vote, excuse me, five five percent of the vote

1449
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 4: or probably already the best defense. I don't say probably,

1450
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 4: I would just say it the best defensive player in

1451
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 4: the entire league. He's a defense unto himself, who, by

1452
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 4: the way, also averages twenty five points a game. And

1453
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 4: if you want to argue that he's not the MVP,

1454
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 4: I think that's a tough argue.

1455
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 5: But fine.

1456
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 4: If you want to say Shae and Yokich and Wimby

1457
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 4: in there and Luca before he got hurt was entering

1458
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 4: into the conversation, fine, but six Bin and Jaylen Brown's

1459
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 4: had a great year. I don't want to take anything

1460
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 4: away from Jalen Brown.

1461
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 5: He ain't Wimby. I like how Jalen Brown the other

1462
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 5: day came out and said, you know, the advanced stats,

1463
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 5: they can't calculate all the stuff I do. I expect

1464
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 5: him to say that with basically my aura and my

1465
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 5: spirit out there.

1466
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 4: That's you know, Hey, everybody's making their case. Wemby made

1467
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 4: his case a couple of weeks ago. I got Shae

1468
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 4: just said I mean, and Shae obviously from where he's sitting,

1469
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 4: he doesn't need to say anything.

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Speaker 5: No, and Finals MVP, best player on the best team.

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Speaker 4: Everything's lining up for him to be the MVP again anyway,

1472
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 4: so he doesn't need to say anything.

1473
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 5: He's winning. It's yes, and he's probably gonna get it.

1474
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 5: He's good to get it. Yeah, that's why he doesn't

1475
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 5: have to play any more games. Once he got to

1476
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 5: sixty six and they locked up the number one overall seed,

1477
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 5: not just in the West, in the league. That's a

1478
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 5: done deal. Now, Caid wasn't in there, right, kid was

1479
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 5: in that.

1480
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 4: Caid was tied with Luka Doncik and Jalen Brown at

1481
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 4: around eight percent of the vote.

1482
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 5: That's the log jam.

1483
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 4: That's the log jam.

1484
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 5: Okay, this is crazy when you see I can see

1485
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 5: Luca being ahead of him. Sure, this sounds to me

1486
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 5: like a popularity contest sounds like a lot of hate

1487
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 5: from a lot of vests. You brought this up last week,

1488
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 5: the fact that, oh, the thought is, oh, he's gonna

1489
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 5: win another one. We don't need to vote for him now.

1490
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 5: From a writer's standpoint, from a player standpoint, I think

1491
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 5: it might be. He's young, he hasn't paid his dues yet,

1492
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 5: he hasn't earned it. He's not gonna call him a

1493
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 5: flash in the plan. But he's three years in. He

1494
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 5: just this is his first year of being fully relatively healthy.

1495
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 5: I need to see more.

1496
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 4: That's great if we're talking about his career, I'm talking

1497
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 4: about this season, the twenty five twenty six campaign, and

1498
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 4: you're telling me that Victor Wimbinyama is sixth in the

1499
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 4: MVP race. Any list that has him six in the

1500
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 4: MVP race is completely delegitimized. And I don't care who

1501
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 4: did the voting. Yeah, there's zero credibility.

1502
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 5: That makes no sense whatsoever. What is he betting odds

1503
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 5: right now? Is he second? Give me to you? Because

1504
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 5: I'm thinking there's some real jealousy going on, or he

1505
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 5: rubs guys the wrong way.

1506
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 4: That's interesting. He seems pretty mellow and affable and.

1507
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to draw conclusions by this vote. Maybe

1508
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 5: they think, but here's the thing. He is cocky. He

1509
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 5: does say some stuff sometimes that's a swagger to him. Yeah,

1510
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 5: he definitely has some swagger to him. He embraces being

1511
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 5: called the alien, the slender Man. He dressed up as

1512
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 5: that guy for Halloween. Maybe they think he's a little

1513
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 5: too full of himself and how good he is, and

1514
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 5: he does need to wait his turn a little bit. Okay, Yes,

1515
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 5: I don't know if I want to hold accurate right, No,

1516
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 5: it's wrong. I'm just saying this reeks of jealousy. It

1517
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 5: does so our our friends over I bet himgm right now.

1518
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 5: The MVP odds shake Yodas Alexander top odds minus ten thousand,

1519
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 5: so it's a pretty heavy favorite. You have to bet

1520
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,799
Speaker 5: ten thousand dollars to win one hundred. No thanks.

1521
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 4: Second is Victor Wimnyama plus two hundred twenty five hundred.

1522
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 5: Joker comes one hundred to win two twenty five, right,

1523
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 5: and then the Joker comes in third at plus five thousand.

1524
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the top three shay Vi Wimby

1525
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 5: and Nikola Jokic, which, by the way, if I.

1526
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 4: Had a list, it would probably look like that.

1527
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's accurate.

1528
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how it should have looked. These players, they

1529
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 5: don't like him, I'm telling you through you remember this

1530
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 5: with Blake Griffin. There was always something chippy going on

1531
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 5: and guys not showing him love or respect.

1532
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 4: People did not like him for whatever reason. I don't

1533
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 4: know if they felt that he was embarrassing them with

1534
01:08:58,560 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 4: the dunks.

1535
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 5: I think that might have had something to do with it. Yeah,

1536
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 5: and Wemby embarrassedes guys quite often too. You remember when

1537
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 5: James Harden got into it with Giannis Dinnakunmpo a few

1538
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 5: years back, and he took a slight shot at him

1539
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 5: in an interview once saying, you know, I can't just

1540
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 5: be athletic and run and jump. I actually have to

1541
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 5: be skilled out there. And everybody knew who he was

1542
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 5: talking about. And this is around twenty nineteen, twenty twenty. Yeah,

1543
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 5: I think some guys may be feeling.

1544
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 4: That it's easy for him because he's so long, because

1545
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 4: he's he doesn't have to work as hard.

1546
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 5: Wemby is just physically at an advantage that nobody's ever

1547
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 5: been at, and that is what separates him and they

1548
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 5: don't like it.

1549
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, well, tough.

1550
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 5: I can't say.

1551
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 4: I can't say the word that Sheila from that one

1552
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 4: documentary Wild Wild Country would say, but tough s. You know,

1553
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 4: the guy's talented, the guy's great if he was just

1554
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 4: a guy. There's been a lot of tall, long guys

1555
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 4: out there who have been busted, who have done nothing.

1556
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the the list is lengthy, especially in the

1557
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 5: eighties and nineties, right when it was a centers league

1558
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 5: and everybody was drafting them over and over again hoping

1559
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 5: they would hit the jackpot of finding a unicorn player

1560
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:11,560
Speaker 5: like this.

1561
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 4: There have been so many athletic freaks that have flamed out.

1562
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 4: So to hold that against him, because not only is

1563
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 4: he as an athletic freak, but he's put in the

1564
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 4: work and is one of the best players in the

1565
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 4: league already three years in. You should be lauding him.

1566
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 4: He should be praising him, not hating on the guy.

1567
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,799
Speaker 5: Also, he's different than Yannis in that he's extremely skilled.

1568
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 5: Oh yeah. To be that tall with that handle, to

1569
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 5: have ways to hit three pointers like he does, to

1570
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 5: have that dexterity and the motor skill at that size,

1571
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 5: to be able to knock down shots. Remember what we

1572
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 5: always used to say about Shaq, Well, you know, he's

1573
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 5: so big, and that's why he struggles with the free

1574
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 5: throw line, and it's kind of a line drive when

1575
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 5: you're that tall. That's a bunch of horses. We have

1576
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 5: enough guys that are seven feet and above that are

1577
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 5: good free throw shooters in this league that have giant

1578
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 5: hands just like Shaq and are able to get it

1579
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 5: done that somehow, some way are able to have that touch.

1580
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 8: Right.

1581
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 5: Wemby's one of them, absolutely, and he is in a

1582
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 5: league of his own. He's a one of one unicorn

1583
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 5: like we've never seen. So do they think he's being

1584
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 5: overhyped by the league or maybe this is partially because

1585
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 5: they're trying to make him the face of the league.

1586
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 5: Is very reliant on this guy being the next generation superstar,

1587
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 5: maybe the possible next Goat, and players right now are saying,

1588
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 5: slow your role. He's not there yet, and we're sick

1589
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 5: of this marketing campaign you have for him.

1590
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 4: Even though he's legit, he's not there yet compared to

1591
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 4: who right, compared to who?

1592
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 5: Tell me, I know.

1593
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 4: You Adam a top of that or it's you know,

1594
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 4: but it doesn't make any sense to me, And like

1595
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 4: you said, it reeks of nothing more than pure jealousy

1596
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 4: from these players because they feel like they're getting you

1597
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 4: served by a young guy who just came in, whose

1598
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 4: feet aren't even wet, who's still kind of figuring out

1599
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 4: exactly what his role is in the NBA, are figuring

1600
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 4: out who he is, and they can't accept the fact

1601
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 4: that he's coming in and dominating from day one.

1602
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 5: You know, one guy, he loves upsetting and Wemby likes

1603
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 5: playing the villain. By the way, Wemby likes getting underneath

1604
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 5: guy's skin. He's he's got a nasty competitive edge to him,

1605
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 5: which I love. But there's one guy who he just torments,

1606
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 5: and that's Chet Holmgrin. If you watch Ched at the

1607
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 5: free throw line, Wemby will like put up his arms

1608
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 5: to try to psych him out where he's almost touched

1609
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 5: on the top of the backboard when he does it,

1610
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 5: and he'll start clapping when Chet misses. He does this

1611
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 5: with guys he doesn't care. He is not friendly. He

1612
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 5: is not the aau ball. Everybody's my buddy, buddy. With

1613
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 5: the rest of the league, Wemby is coming in to

1614
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 5: take souls. I think this is the backlash to that.

1615
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 5: I think it's an example of that.

1616
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 4: Well you know, and that's as someone else who rubbed

1617
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 4: people the wrong way, especially when he came in and

1618
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 4: he was young, and he was cocky, and he acted

1619
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 4: the same way it was Kobe. Kobe had that exact

1620
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 4: same mentality and.

1621
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 5: Why he got smacked by Shack, Well, he wasn't well liked.

1622
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, early in his career, he got he became more

1623
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 4: and more respected later on by a lot of guys,

1624
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 4: but I'd say the first seven eight years of his career, well, yeah,

1625
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 4: people hated him.

1626
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 5: Remember the Jordan documentary The Last Dance the All Star

1627
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 5: Game where Jordan goes, that little Laker boy over there,

1628
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 5: that little Laker kid over there, he ain't even gonna

1629
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 5: try to let the game come to him. He's gonna

1630
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 5: take it. He's gonna try to turn this into a

1631
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 5: one on one game, and all the guys were like, yeah,

1632
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 5: yes's Kobe.

1633
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was well known.

1634
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 5: I mean Kobe.

1635
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 4: I think there was a story that Michael Jordan told

1636
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 4: that like when he first met him, Kobe walked into

1637
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 4: the gym and say, Hey, Mike, nice to meet you.

1638
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 4: I'mna woop you ass and he's seven and he's seventeen

1639
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 4: at the time. You know, if Wimby has that sort

1640
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 4: of edge to him, look the bleep out, because he's

1641
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 4: only gonna get better. Your only fear with him is

1642
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 4: because of his body type and the way that he plays,

1643
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 4: is that injuries are probably going to play him throughout

1644
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 4: his entire career, and that's gonna be something that you're

1645
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 4: going to have to manage. But if he stays healthy

1646
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 4: and ends up playing sixty plus games a season for

1647
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 4: the next decade, my god, he will end up being

1648
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 4: one of the best players in the history of the sport.

1649
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 4: Not hyperbole, No, I feel very confident in saying that

1650
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 4: he stays healthy and plays for ten, twelve, fourteen years,

1651
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 4: whatever it is, he will go down as one of

1652
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 4: the best players in the history of the sport.

1653
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 5: God, I would love for these votes to get released

1654
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 5: like a Metro report, or you find out the names

1655
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 5: on some.

1656
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 4: Of these guys. Y'all hating as is to be called out,

1657
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 4: every last one of you.

1658
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 5: Because a lot of them praise him postgame. Lebron was

1659
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 5: talking about him the other night. Everybody talks about how

1660
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 5: great he is, But some of those same guys, I

1661
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 5: guarantee you had him sixth on the MVP ballot.

1662
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 4: Here we need more guys like this. I'm not saying

1663
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 4: you can't be friends, but the AAU stuff and all that,

1664
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 4: and guys being buddy buddy. I'm not saying you have

1665
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 4: to hate each other, but the competitive edge I see

1666
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 4: I think as certain times gets lost.

1667
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 5: What's the Georgia game Georgia Tech game they play every

1668
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 5: year called the good Old Fashion Hate Bowl. I'm fine

1669
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,560
Speaker 5: with it. As you say, let the hate flow through you.

1670
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 5: I'm all for it. Don't give in to hate. Oh

1671
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 5: they're giving into it now? All right?

1672
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 4: Speaking of hate? Is it a hit piece? If it's true,

1673
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 4: we'll talk about that coming up next. FNA on FSR, Hi,

1674
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 4: what's the good word there, FNA Cotton.

1675
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 5: It's FNA on FSR. I'm at a Moslen's Kevin Figures

1676
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 5: Get to Me. I follow out of a Get to

1677
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 5: Kevin at k fig one at FNA show. As our

1678
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 5: other handle. Remember for the best pregame show every weekend,

1679
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,880
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1680
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,519
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1681
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,120
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1682
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,559
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1683
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,719
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1684
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 5: right here on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart App. Sorry, Bri,

1685
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 5: I'm not It's so funny. Okay.

1686
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 4: Anyway, I gave Mark credit for bringing in bringing his

1687
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 4: back in with the autumn wind, and apparently it was Bree.

1688
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 4: So my deepest apologies. I don't want to take credit

1689
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 4: from you.

1690
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 5: Let me tell you when it comes to wanting credit,

1691
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 5: Bree's a Hall of Famer. Credit for real. First ballotis

1692
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 5: we'll stay away from that between the two of you.

1693
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1694
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 4: So, Zach Keifer of the Athletic did a giant ride

1695
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 4: up on John Gruten and his second second tenure with

1696
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 4: the Raiders was, of course, unceremoniously ended. Uh even more

1697
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 4: than halfway through the season his last year amid the

1698
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 4: email controversy with Roger Goodell and the comments that he

1699
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 4: made amidst the Commander's investigation, so he had to step away.

1700
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 4: Rich Pasachia steps in. They end up making the postseason,

1701
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 4: and they end up losing to the Cincinnati Bengals. I

1702
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 4: believe was there the Bengals made the Super Bowl, if

1703
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 4: I remember correctly, Rams, I believe, I believe that was

1704
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 4: that year.

1705
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 5: I remember the joke that Rob Parker said about the

1706
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 5: which one I can only imagine them parade. Oh what

1707
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 5: did he say? I'm not said it was small, but

1708
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 5: I heard a woman say is it in? Is a

1709
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 5: parade in? Or Rob Parker said that, yeah on stage. Yeah,

1710
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 5: that's that sounds like something Rob would say.

1711
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 4: Jeez, But the piece kind of paints John Gruten has

1712
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 4: a bit of a tyrant disregard to reports from scouts.

1713
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 4: Even at assistance, cut up nothing but negative tape on

1714
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 4: prospects he didn't like. So we could show the rest

1715
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 4: of the staff like, oh this guy sucks, and the

1716
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 4: scouts who scouted him its spent hours in the entire year,

1717
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 4: like hold up, this guy is a good player.

1718
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 5: That's what the kids would say. Real negativity is it's

1719
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 5: just like that is going out of your way.

1720
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 4: And I claim he hired Mike Mayout to be a

1721
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 4: puppet general manager who basically would never tell him no.

1722
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 5: I liked. I really hoped that was gonna work.

1723
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Speaker 4: I mean, I do think it kind of paints Mike

1724
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 4: as a little bit of a sympathetic figure, like you know,

1725
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 4: he's a he's a good talent evaluator, TV scout and

1726
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 4: all that stuff, but the inner workings of a front

1727
01:17:58,160 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 4: office was something he was never really exposed.

1728
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 5: Didn't be a political animal.

1729
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 4: Didn't really understand it all that well. And that wasn't

1730
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 4: Mike's fault, and that was something that you know, he

1731
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 4: unfortunately had to deal with when signing on with John Gruden.

1732
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 4: The fact that this is something I knew for a fact,

1733
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 4: and this is something that John got from Al Davis.

1734
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 4: Obsessed with veterans who more often than not were past

1735
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 4: their prime, didn't care much about character issues with players,

1736
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 4: while you have Antonio Brown who never took a snap

1737
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 4: for them, and Damon Arnette who was a guy that

1738
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 4: was brandishing guns and threatening people on Twitter, who got

1739
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 4: released like six games into his career.

1740
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they brought in Bill Romanowski and you

1741
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 5: talk about old veterans. Now, it worked with Tim Brown,

1742
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 5: oh them, Yeah, and Jerry Ryer Rice were balling at forty.

1743
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 4: But it didn't work with Warren Sapp and a bunch

1744
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 4: of older guys. After that era ended with you know,

1745
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 4: all of those guys, it just more veterans, more veterans,

1746
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 4: guys who were past their prime, and it didn't work.

1747
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 4: The trading away of Klo Max something Paul gun Through,

1748
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 4: is defensive coordinator at the time, said we shouldn't do

1749
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 4: or if you're going to, he said, we have five

1750
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 4: free agents that are really good players and starters for us.

1751
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 4: And apparently Paul up there and John Gruten had a

1752
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 4: conversation like do we keep these five guys or do

1753
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:04,759
Speaker 4: we sign Colo Mac to an extension?

1754
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 5: And got through the five guys it's good burgers man exactly.

1755
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 4: Gut Through was like, well, Colol Mac is a locker

1756
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 4: room leader and he's one of the best defensive players

1757
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 4: in the NFL. Let's sign him and let the other

1758
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 4: guys go. John's like, all right, So the guys go.

1759
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 4: About a month or two later, we're deeper into the

1760
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 4: start of training camp, Colol Mac is still holding out

1761
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 4: and then John calls Paul and says, oh, yeah, by

1762
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 4: the way, we just traded Colo Matt.

1763
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: You're out.

1764
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 5: Paul's like, what the bleet man?

1765
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 4: You just five of our starters left, and we thought

1766
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 4: we were saving that money to get to Kaleol Mac.

1767
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 5: And how you traded him away. What the hell are

1768
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 5: you doing? How's that for a blind side?

1769
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 4: So not things didn't go that well, to be honest

1770
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 4: with you. Now, the weird part about it is, I'll say.

1771
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 5: This, I had faith that did a weird part.

1772
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 4: I was not a fan of his hiring at the time.

1773
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 4: I worse and it was like I his his tenure

1774
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 4: in Tampa did not end well at all. The team's

1775
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 4: got worse and worse.

1776
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 5: You brought up hearkening back to the past rarely works. Yes,

1777
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 5: artshell was you know a example of that? Hey, Joe Gibbs.

1778
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 5: They got to the playoffs. Jill Gibbs was fine. Fact,

1779
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 5: they lost to the Buccaneers with John grid maybe that

1780
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 5: might have been Yeah, that might have been his last

1781
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 5: playoff winner if I remember correct. He didn't really have

1782
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 5: a quarterback though in Clinton port As he made him

1783
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 5: gain like fifty pounds the corner between the tackles now

1784
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 5: right right.

1785
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,759
Speaker 4: So the problem is they actually performed pretty well under Gruden.

1786
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 4: Under his short tenure there, they got better every single year.

1787
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,560
Speaker 4: They did end up making the playoffs. His found a

1788
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 4: year now, granted he wasn't there to see them to

1789
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 4: the postseason. Rich Pasaccio was knock on wood if you will, Yeah, exactly, So,

1790
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 4: in the midst of all of their turmoil and all

1791
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 4: the crap that he was putting them through, the team

1792
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 4: was kind of winning and kind of turning a corner.

1793
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna necessarily call it a hit piece

1794
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 4: because I do believe a lot of the stuff that

1795
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 4: is in here is true.

1796
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 5: After what I saw in the email release, Yeah, well

1797
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 5: that's some of the worst stuff you'll ever read. So

1798
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 5: I don't think he was the greatest higher.

1799
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 4: But I can say despite all their issues, their terrible

1800
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 4: drafts and all that, they were turning a corner. And

1801
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if they'd be a Super Bowl contender,

1802
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 4: but they could could probably still be a French playoff

1803
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 4: team of Gruden will still there as aday coach.

1804
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 5: Tell me if this is a hot take, I think

1805
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 5: actually the loss of John Gruden in the NFL in general,

1806
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 5: whether as a head coach or as a broadcaster, is

1807
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,600
Speaker 5: significant because I don't know if you could tell the

1808
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 5: story of the league without him, and for him to

1809
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 5: be kind of a pariah like this or just to

1810
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 5: be a black mark on the league in some ways,

1811
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 5: that's that's damaging. It is because he was a good broadcaster.

1812
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,480
Speaker 5: He was a good head coach, big character, big personality,

1813
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 5: just like us here in FNA, except in different ways.

1814
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 5: On FSR more.

1815
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 4: Next, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Final Hour of

1816
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 4: FNA on FSR. Thank you guys for joining us as

1817
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 4: you do every single week. Again, you can hit us

1818
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 4: up on x at k FIG one and at follow

1819
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 4: adam A. Thanks again to the great, great co self

1820
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 4: for joining us on the show last hour talking about

1821
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 4: the NFL Draft, which is just a couple of weeks away.

1822
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 4: If you missed that interview, you go back and check

1823
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 4: it on the podcast after we get off the air,

1824
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 4: but you will post it immediately once we're done.

1825
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 5: Go back and check that out. Don't miss Breeze three.

1826
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, looking forward to that, but never want to

1827
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 5: miss that. It's so funny. Okay.

1828
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 4: Anyway, Today's Today's not that they're not all good.

1829
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 5: This is a really good one. Today's good. Today's going

1830
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 5: to be a good Breeze three one of those good ones.

1831
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: What do you mean?

1832
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 6: Have I had some stinkers recently.

1833
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 5: Before this one?

1834
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 4: I will say this one's a little different. The first

1835
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 4: time this one was just a little bit different than

1836
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 4: the ones we've previously had, and I like it.

1837
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 5: I like it. It's a bit of a different twist.

1838
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 6: I do have to say, I really appreciate, appreciate you

1839
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 6: guys like not giving me too much, like you know,

1840
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 6: slack for like leaving and coming back. You've welcomed me

1841
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 6: with open arms, So I appreciate you.

1842
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 5: Do you want to do the Godfather the three thing?

1843
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 6: Here?

1844
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 2: What?

1845
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 5: Just what I thought I was out? Oh exactly, you

1846
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 5: can't get rid of us or this place. Come on, Brie,

1847
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 5: and we can't get rid of you. Apparently we're in

1848
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 5: your blood like herpes. Oh well, I wasn't expecting us

1849
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 5: to go there. I was going to transition off of that.

1850
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 5: Uh talk about the Masters, are you guys? How fuck?

1851
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 9: All right?

1852
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 5: He's on the Herpes leader board. I think Gonnery is

1853
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 5: at the top culturs.

1854
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 4: They were just doing a roll call now Clemenia, like,

1855
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 4: what are we doing here? So I have Steve Saker

1856
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 4: mitchening his update. Roy McElroy spectacular first couple of days

1857
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 4: at the Masters six stroke lead over Patrick Reid and

1858
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 4: Sam Burns, by the way, third largest thirty six hole

1859
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 4: lead in the history of major tournaments.

1860
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 5: So how many of those are just Tiger?

1861
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 7: Like?

1862
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 5: How many times? Because early on I had some real blowouts,

1863
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 5: but maybe it was pebble beach. I was thinking of

1864
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 5: surprisingly one, just one, only one of those is Tiger.

1865
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 5: Tiger really started whooping ass on Saturday and Sunday, is

1866
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 5: what it sounds like. Can we get some calls on

1867
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 5: this eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox? Because if

1868
01:23:55,600 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 5: there was ever going to be a segment or I

1869
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 5: failed and humiliated myself constantly with bad takes and opinions.

1870
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 6: You're.

1871
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 5: This is the one golf I'm a golf casual. Now,

1872
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 5: remember back in the day on the F and A podcast,

1873
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 5: it wasn't that long ago, and we're doing this a while.

1874
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:25,839
Speaker 5: We had a golf insider, not Dave Doucek, Tory wan Patrick,

1875
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 5: who we would affectionately call Tory pons Wan Patrick, who

1876
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:37,440
Speaker 5: would call in unsolicited and give us his golf analysis

1877
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 5: coming into majors and then out of them.

1878
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 4: And we loved it.

1879
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 5: And that's how we had golf covered on the show.

1880
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 5: It wasn't really done by us. So this is we're

1881
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 5: breaking ground right now. Now we may end up in

1882
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 5: the rough.

1883
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 4: I will also say that that was towards the end

1884
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 4: of Tiger's run of dominance two.

1885
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 5: Okay, it was his last Masters. He had that one nineteen.

1886
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 4: That was the incredible, you know, and he even mentioned

1887
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 4: that there's a confluence of things that had to come

1888
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 4: together for him to even be able to win that tournament.

1889
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 4: And was not after the first car accident, Yes it was. Yeah,

1890
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 4: this was twenty nineteen, and.

1891
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:16,839
Speaker 5: He haded real physical damage unlike this last one. Fortunately,

1892
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 5: well mentally, I mean, he's still got in trouble and

1893
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 5: now everyone's making a meme out of him screaming in

1894
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 5: the back of the cop car and everything.

1895
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's the thing. No one got hurt, luckily, surprisingly,

1896
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, help seeing that records, my god.

1897
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 4: But to a lot of people were expecting him, even

1898
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 4: though he had never said anything, the fact that he

1899
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 4: never ruled it out, people were expecting to compete in

1900
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 4: the Masters this year. Yeah, the problem was, I don't

1901
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:43,560
Speaker 4: know what you were expecting to get out of a

1902
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 4: guy that's had like six back surgeries and three leg surgeries.

1903
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 4: So just walking the course and I was talking, I

1904
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 4: was talking to our colleague Steve Hartman here at Fox

1905
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 4: Sports Radio. I was talking to him earlier today about

1906
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 4: the Masters and just how hilly it is, and like

1907
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 4: how much of a workout it is just to walk

1908
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 4: that course, let alone actually play it. He were asking

1909
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 4: a guy with all these back surgeries and all these

1910
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 4: physical issues, car accident notwithstanding, to actually be able to

1911
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 4: compete and have the stamina to make it.

1912
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 5: Who is the guy that wanted to get clearance for

1913
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 5: a golf cart? I do remember this. He had a

1914
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 5: physical handicap. And see, this is where I'm getting myself

1915
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 5: in trouble. I know just enough to get myself in

1916
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 5: trouble here. And he was looking for them to okay

1917
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 5: him getting special treatment with a golf cart, not because

1918
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,839
Speaker 5: he needs special treatment like he had special needs, because

1919
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 5: he had a real handicap. But they ruled that no.

1920
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 5: Walking is a physical part of the sport that has

1921
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,560
Speaker 5: to be done. So there's something about that. Yeah, it

1922
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 5: is with Tigers, all the injuries he's had. Yeah, he's

1923
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 5: not the same. He's not the same wiry strength guy

1924
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 5: that he used to be back in the day. Now

1925
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 5: he looks like a Navy seal up top at times. Yeah,

1926
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 5: he's very top heavy. He's Dolly parton up there, but yeah, uh,

1927
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 5: he's had real damage to his legaments.

1928
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 4: So I mean, the question is if Tiger were still

1929
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 4: Tiger or if somebody else had grasped the reins over

1930
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 4: these pasts, because we were even ten twelve years ago

1931
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 4: it was supposed to be Rory and Speith. Yes, there

1932
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 4: were the two guys that were gonna come in and

1933
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 4: usher us in into a new era without Tiger. We

1934
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 4: didn't know if it was gonna be one of them

1935
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,639
Speaker 4: or both of them, but it was gonna be great

1936
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 4: for golf. Rory won the Open and the PGA Championship

1937
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 4: in twenty fourteen, Speith won the Masters and the Open

1938
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 4: in twenty fifteen, and neither of them did anything after

1939
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 4: that for a long stretch of time.

1940
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 5: And they were supposed to be like the Tiger clones

1941
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:45,759
Speaker 5: were coming, right, Yeah, they were, you know David Goggins types.

1942
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 5: Maybe that Lean, not that lean who's gonna carry the

1943
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 5: boat that mean, you know, yeah, they they were physically

1944
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 5: imposing as opposed to what we used to see because

1945
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 5: becuz of Tiger's influence on the game, and Rory was

1946
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 5: definitely like that and still is. I used to say

1947
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 5: for Jordan's Speith, I remember spith Kills, speed Kills, Speith Kills,

1948
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 5: and yeah, they were supposed to be dynasties unto themselves,

1949
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 5: and maybe we were going to have this back and

1950
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 5: forth like we really didn't get with Phil Mickelson and

1951
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 5: Tiger Woods because Michelson for the most part, didn't rise

1952
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 5: to the challenge.

1953
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 4: Most of the time he was around was good. There

1954
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 4: were guys who were around. VJ was around, but nobody

1955
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 4: could actually you know, you had enough guys on the

1956
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 4: periphery who would jump up and get you here and there,

1957
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 4: but it was still Tiger and Tiger dominate.

1958
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 5: Davis love Ernie. You mentioned VJ couples. Couples, by the way,

1959
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 5: I had some video games.

1960
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that for a couple, so you realize

1961
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 4: for a couple. Still competed in the Masters this year

1962
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 4: missed no the actual Masters.

1963
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 1: Oh now I knew this.

1964
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 4: If you ever won the Masters, you have a free pass.

1965
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 4: You can enter for as long as you want, for

1966
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 4: the rest of your life. Apparently, so if if you

1967
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 4: were eighty five years old, if Arnold Palmer wanted to play, now,

1968
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 4: I guess he could. What if you're black, Well, that's different.

1969
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 5: Not obviously I felt like I was okay saying that

1970
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 5: that's all right. No, there's a deep history of racism.

1971
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 4: They were a star, right, but Tiger you know obviously

1972
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 4: by the way. VJ. Sing also completely competed this year,

1973
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 4: also missed the cut.

1974
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 5: What was the joke in the early two thousands from

1975
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 5: Chris Rock where he said, like the world is upside down,

1976
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 5: our best rapper is white and our best golfer is black. Yeah,

1977
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 5: I love that, bizarrow Land.

1978
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 1: At that point, you know I'm here for it.

1979
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 5: Uh. But and so going back to space.

1980
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 4: So Speeth won his last major in twenty seventeen, and

1981
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 4: Rory did not win a major until winning that playoff

1982
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,560
Speaker 4: last year in the Masters where he collapsed towards the

1983
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 4: end and has actually going to a playoff.

1984
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 5: He he kind of did now granted he only got

1985
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 5: a half jacket.

1986
01:29:55,720 --> 01:30:00,080
Speaker 4: He stepped up on a holes in it. Jackie came from.

1987
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 5: Northamrack. So I do I will say this, if Rory stays.

1988
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 4: On this heater, if he wins the Masters again this year,

1989
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 4: it maybe went another one of the tournament that opened

1990
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 4: something like that. Maybe he kind of takes over and

1991
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 4: finally turns into what people thought he would be and

1992
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 4: he turns into the new Tiger Because I think one

1993
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 4: of the best things for golf. We talked about this

1994
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 4: with the Dodgers in the first segment of the show.

1995
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 4: I think for a sport like golf, where there are

1996
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,839
Speaker 4: no colors or logos to root for, it's all individual players.

1997
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 4: There's no built in allegiances. You know, if you're a

1998
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 4: fan of a team, you're a fan of the team

1999
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 4: where guys just cycle in and out your entire lifetime.

2000
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 5: It's different in golf. Hey, let me tell you, there's

2001
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 5: a lot of annoying stands out there that just jumped

2002
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 5: from team to team depending on where their favorite player goes.

2003
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 5: Now in the NBA, got true that has gotten to

2004
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 5: it that that's like a real gen Z thing that

2005
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 5: I don't understand.

2006
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 4: Not the biggest fan of it, but I would like

2007
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 4: to believe that the great majority of people still holding

2008
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 4: allegiance to their favorite team from their city or because

2009
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 4: their parents grew up rooting for them, or whatever it is.

2010
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 4: I think the best thing for golf is to have

2011
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 4: I don't even know if you want to call him

2012
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 4: a villain. I don't know if I would call Tiger

2013
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 4: back in the day a villain, you know before all

2014
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 4: this star.

2015
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was just a superstar, transcendent.

2016
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 4: You enjoyed watching his greatness, and you know, at a

2017
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 4: certain point in time, you were excited to see somebody

2018
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 4: come up every now and then and be able to

2019
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 4: knock him off and see that he was human.

2020
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 5: And Tiger was a badass and did it his way.

2021
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 5: Tiger wasn't you know. He swore a lot like Damning.

2022
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:37,560
Speaker 5: He could be robotic at some points in interviews, and

2023
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 5: then out there he showed so much more passion, and

2024
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 5: he showed so much more personality, and he showed so

2025
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 5: much killer instinct. The Michael Jordan golf he had a

2026
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 5: game face to him, if you want to say that,

2027
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 5: Aura Clutch Geen. Tiger had it all. It was easy

2028
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 5: to attach yourself.

2029
01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 4: And you need to be when you're winning by eighteen

2030
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 4: strokes on Sunday sucause there.

2031
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 5: Was a criticism of him for years. Yeah that you know.

2032
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 4: Oftentimes, Yeah, he was a front runner and he rarely

2033
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 4: ever came from behind to actually win tournaments.

2034
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 5: There was was there the one in two thousand and

2035
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 5: eight or two thousand and nine where he had to

2036
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 5: go into the playoffs, The one where he had the

2037
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 5: crazy shot that looped around forever. I forget, I'm gonna

2038
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 5: get myself in more trouble. The point is you need

2039
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,560
Speaker 5: somebody more mainstream for the casuals to attach themselves to.

2040
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 4: Right now, Well's the TV ratings had steadily declined over

2041
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 4: the past eight nine years or so. I looked this

2042
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,600
Speaker 4: up earlier today, But the past year last year, they

2043
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 4: actually started to trickle back up again. What the impetus

2044
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 4: for that is, I'm not one hundred percent sure.

2045
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 5: The thing is there are.

2046
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 4: Names to yeah, exactly because I mentioned Speed, who has

2047
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 4: pretty much been non existent. He's there, he's performing, he's fine,

2048
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 4: but he hasn't really done a whole lot of note

2049
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 4: over the past six years.

2050
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 5: Does he not care?

2051
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 4: I would say he doesn't care. It's just hasn't worked

2052
01:32:59,560 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 4: out for him.

2053
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 5: Whatever.

2054
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,680
Speaker 4: But Scotty Scheffler has been spectacular.

2055
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 5: You know, the less he cares, the better he is.

2056
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 4: But he hasn't been good enough to really move the

2057
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 4: needle for a lot of people. Remember Brooks and Bryson

2058
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 4: that that was a big thing. But how much of

2059
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 4: a arrival we can there be if neither of you

2060
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 4: are doing anything for two three years at a time.

2061
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 4: That's a mid off's I mean kind of if you're

2062
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,560
Speaker 4: to be honest, Yeah, that's the thing. It's not a

2063
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 4: personal indictment on any of the like Scotty Brooks, Bryson,

2064
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 4: these guys. I think Bryson had a couple of second

2065
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 4: place finishes last year in the majors, So it's like,

2066
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 4: which is good. You're making a lot of money, you're

2067
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 4: still at the top of the leader board, but you're

2068
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 4: not winning majors, winning championships, being at the top of

2069
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 4: the heat, being talked about as a great player. Those

2070
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:40,560
Speaker 4: are the things that are going to help you transcend.

2071
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 2: Well.

2072
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:45,600
Speaker 5: I wish people would be more excited about Scotty Scheffler's

2073
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 5: approach to the game in life, because I think it's

2074
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 5: pretty interesting that he is so well grounded. He doesn't

2075
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 5: ground his club much, but he is so grounded in

2076
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 5: life that like, he has this great perspective and it

2077
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 5: helps him be loose out there and play his best

2078
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 5: because he knows this isn't his everything, right, it's about

2079
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 5: his family, things much bigger than golf, and he wins

2080
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 5: and just kind of moves on.

2081
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have to be overly obsessive about it.

2082
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 4: It's a job, it's something that you take seriously, obviously,

2083
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 4: but it is not literally and by the way, I

2084
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,679
Speaker 4: guess there's nothing wrong with that. Everybody's different because for Tiger,

2085
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 4: you could argue it was his life. It was all

2086
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 4: he ever did from age three or whatever it was

2087
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 4: when he was on the Ed Sullivan Show, whatever it was.

2088
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's his passion, that's his identity, that's everything he's

2089
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 5: wrapped up in.

2090
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 4: That's literally all he did. But so there's an element

2091
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 4: of Rory being dominant through these first couple of rounds

2092
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 4: that you actually want to tune in and watch to

2093
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 4: see how far it can keep going. It's weird because

2094
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 4: if you can't. If I came into today and say, like, Okay,

2095
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 4: Roy McElroy and Justin Rose are tied to top the

2096
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 4: leaderboard up through thirty six holes, for it's as odd

2097
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:49,679
Speaker 4: as it sounds, I will be less apt to tune

2098
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 4: in for today's action if it turned out that way

2099
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 4: versus Roy McRoy is kicking everybody's ass, and it's like

2100
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 4: this guy is playing one of the tougher courses in

2101
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 4: the country and he's kicking his ass. Can he keep

2102
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 4: doing it can you reach tiger Wood status?

2103
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 5: Well, how dominant can he actually be?

2104
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 4: I just find it intriguing that usually when there's a blowout,

2105
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 4: people tune away.

2106
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 5: For me, at least there's a blowout.

2107
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 4: In this situation, I'm actually more empowered to want to

2108
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 4: tune in as opposed to if it were actually a

2109
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 4: close race right now.

2110
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 5: And that speaks to some of the intrigue in golf

2111
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 5: in general. It's you versus the course. It's you versus you,

2112
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:25,719
Speaker 5: and you versus the course is mainly what it's about.

2113
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 5: But if somebody is out there doing something historic, even

2114
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 5: if that means he's lapping everyone and nobody else has

2115
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 5: a chance to win, and it's already a foregone conclusion

2116
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 5: he's going to be hosting the trophy on Sunday, there's

2117
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 5: still something to that. How much history are we seeing?

2118
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 5: And it's Rory, so people already know him. He has

2119
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 5: brand power. And if he's a late bloomer and he

2120
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 5: starts to really take over the sport like we thought

2121
01:35:53,600 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 5: he was going to until women weak in these Okay.

2122
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 4: It's not like that.

2123
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:00,560
Speaker 6: I was.

2124
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 5: I was looking for the oh my knee, and he's

2125
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 5: no longer with the tennis star. Was Niyaki? Was that

2126
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 5: her name?

2127
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 7: What is that?

2128
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 5: Am I getting too personal with it? That's right?

2129
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:13,720
Speaker 2: And I.

2130
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 4: Don't know if it had an effect on him or not.

2131
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 5: I know, I don't want to blame her like it

2132
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 5: seemed like there was something emotional going on because they

2133
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 5: were closed their relationship whatever. That's fine. I'm not I'm

2134
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:27,639
Speaker 5: not saying that's a bad thing in his life.

2135
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 4: With David Lee now right, the former Nick Correct Warriors.

2136
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 5: Don't they have kids? I did not sell that. I

2137
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 5: believe so well. Rory is not affected by it either way,

2138
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 5: He's not. He's not thinking about her anymore.

2139
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 4: Married, said David Lee. Yes, I believe they have a

2140
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 4: three they have three children together.

2141
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 5: Okay, But I'm just saying, if this is it, if

2142
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 5: this is Rory turning the corner and he's gonna dominate

2143
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 5: and just go on a tiger like run, Yeah, that's

2144
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 5: the best thing that can happen for this sport right now.

2145
01:36:58,320 --> 01:36:59,600
Speaker 7: If this is his.

2146
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 5: Reintroduction, sure, allow me to reintroduce myself by my name

2147
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 5: is Rory?

2148
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2149
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 5: We does now, but this could be phenomenal for golf,

2150
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 5: especially after everything that's happened with Live and the PGA,

2151
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 5: this is what they need, right.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't help either that so many you know, higher

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01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 4: profile guys that have gone on out. Those guys are

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01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 4: still competing in the in the majors, but still that

2155
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 4: you're losing dust and you're losing some of the bigger

2156
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 4: names to the Live tour because those guys are taking

2157
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 4: giant paydays, which I don't begrudging when everybody make money,

2158
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 4: do whatever you feel is best for you. But it

2159
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 4: certainly didn't help the PGA tour. And there's litigation about

2160
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 4: the tour and Live, you know, joining forces that's been

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01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 4: talked about for the last tweek.

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01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 5: The President got involved.

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01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 4: It's a whole thing. I don't know where that sits

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01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,640
Speaker 4: right now. This brings it back to golf.

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01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 5: And not the politics of it or not competing leagues

2166
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:57,759
Speaker 5: and all of that. It gets back to the purest

2167
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 5: the traditionalists. What they want to see is greatness out there.

2168
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 5: And if he's performing like that and doesn't have some

2169
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 5: monumental Greg Norman like collapse this weekend, I think this

2170
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:12,679
Speaker 5: is gonna be fantastic. And typically for me, I wait

2171
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 5: till Sunday, so you're a Sunday watcher, people will call it.

2172
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 4: Nothing else is on.

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01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 5: I'll tune in, but right now we're inundated. I got

2174
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 5: the NBA, the playoffs and everything, and that's how it

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01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 5: typically is, and baseball is going on or.

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01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 4: I like, if you hear like last year, you probably

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01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 4: weren't watching and then you got an alert on your

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01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,679
Speaker 4: phone like, oh my god, Ror is collapsing and Pros

2179
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 4: is on his on his heels, and all of a sudden,

2180
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 4: you know we have a playoff, and then you start watching.

2181
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 5: If somebody needs the heimlick or the defibrillators out there,

2182
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:42,679
Speaker 5: that's drama. That's what I want to see. If somebody's

2183
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,679
Speaker 5: shaking everything into the rough, like Mickelson and the US

2184
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 5: Open in two thousand and five, where you had it

2185
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 5: locked up, I think it was so five. That's also

2186
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 5: an attraction. But I'm a.

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01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 4: Little more cringe. No seeing a guy collapse, at least

2188
01:38:57,800 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 4: for me. Everybody's different. That's hard to watch.

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01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 5: Oh No, I'm not saying I want it to happen,

2190
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 5: but I am saying that the car crash is something

2191
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 5: that people turn their heads to look at, and it

2192
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 5: happens in golf, and it slows down high.

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01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 4: Pressures driving Damn it. Some people are trying to get

2194
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 4: to work and.

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01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:20,759
Speaker 5: Keep driving on the course too. But yeah, I'm usually

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01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 5: a Sunday guy for majors and that makes me a

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01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 5: casual and I'm fine with that.

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01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I want to get our listener's pulse on

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01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 4: this because are you Sunday people And would it change

2200
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:32,679
Speaker 4: if someone like Rory or if somebody likes Scottie Scheffer

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01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:34,719
Speaker 4: word to grab the reins and continue to dominate, Because

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01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 4: I say, for myself, I'm actually intrigued and the more

2203
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:39,959
Speaker 4: entertained by the fact that Rory is out there dominating.

2204
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 4: Part of me hopes that he continues it and runs

2205
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 4: away with this thing and continues to dominate the course.

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01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 5: I find it entertaining.

2207
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 4: Similar to the Dodgers people talk about how great it

2208
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 4: is for baseball that there's a beast to slay. I

2209
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 4: think golf is better when there is a beast to slay.

2210
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 5: So it's all about simplifying things for fans, I mean, yeah,

2211
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 5: because that's how you bring in there's the diehard who

2212
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 5: will always be there no matter what. For golf to grow,

2213
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 5: they have to bring in new fans, and usually it

2214
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 5: takes something like this, something historic yeah, and if it happens, great,

2215
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 5: and if it doesn't, and he's like, hey, I just

2216
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 5: couldn't get the ball in the hole. I wanted to,

2217
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 5: but I just couldn't do it, and he punches a

2218
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 5: fan because he gets so frustrated with himself, like happy,

2219
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 5: go more the original. We don't talk about the second one.

2220
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:21,600
Speaker 4: I never saw the second one, but I heard it

2221
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 4: in Miss Much and I know you did not.

2222
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 5: But it's on Netflix for free if you want to

2223
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 5: have some background.

2224
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:28,680
Speaker 4: Nothing's ever free. How much time is it gonna cost me?

2225
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 5: You're right, it's an hour and a half. Nope, And

2226
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 5: he kills his wife at the beginning. Funny, there are

2227
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff.

2228
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 4: About women being abused in this show, video games and movies,

2229
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:39,520
Speaker 4: purely coincidental.

2230
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 5: Geez, Brie, you want to wigh in on this. It's

2231
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 5: so funny.

2232
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 1: Okay, And that's funny.

2233
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 5: How dare you?

2234
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 6: I didn't say anything.

2235
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 4: Women are getting punched and thrown over the shoulder and

2236
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 4: a video game.

2237
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, but video endorsement relates life like because what you're

2238
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 6: into kind of thing, Like I love cars, so I

2239
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:58,839
Speaker 6: us play racing games.

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01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 5: There's a ferrari in the garage that Billy and Jimmy

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01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 5: Lee walk out of after Mary and gets punched in

2242
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 5: the gut the cut punch. I'm sorry.

2243
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 4: He's seven ninety nine on Fox. Are you watching the Masters?

2244
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 4: Would you enjoy golf more if there was a dominant force?

2245
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 4: Or do you like the dreaded parody? And you don't

2246
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 4: because the ratings show that you don't, But nevertheless, call

2247
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 4: us and let us know. Are you going to be

2248
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 4: more into golf? The Masters are golf in general if

2249
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 4: there is a dominant player like Roy McElroy, or are

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01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 4: you just is it not doing it?

2251
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 5: For doing much for you? Regardless? He's seven to seven

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01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:39,599
Speaker 5: ninety nine on Fox. Is the phone number. Final hour

2253
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 5: of FNA on Fox Sports Radio.

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01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 8: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2255
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 8: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 8: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

2257
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 8: listen live.

2258
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 2: Blinds are lighting up. I guess it's a good subject.

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01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 4: FNA Cotton, that's right back here and a on FSR.

2260
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 4: If you missed any of today's show, including our interview

2261
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 4: with Greg cole Sell, you can catch it on the podcast.

2262
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 4: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts

2263
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,640
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2264
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,240
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2265
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:16,840
Speaker 4: can even provide a review.

2266
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 5: Again.

2267
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:20,480
Speaker 4: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

2268
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 4: follow the feed and you'll find today's full show posted

2269
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 4: right after we get off of the air.

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01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 5: You know, I gotta say I was in a lot

2271
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 5: of pain driving in to Sherman Oaks today because the

2272
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 5: Clippers took a miserable loss that had playoff implications.

2273
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 4: How did that happen? By the way, are they up big?

2274
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 2: No?

2275
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:43,680
Speaker 5: No, Portland was up by twenty on the Clippers. The

2276
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 5: Clippers cut into ten at the half, then the Clippers

2277
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 5: led by two with eleven minutes left, and then they

2278
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 5: lost by nineteen. They went five minutes scoreless in the

2279
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 5: fourth quarter, completely ran out of gas, went ice cold

2280
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 5: from the field. Denny o'd be a drop thirty five

2281
01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 5: or something. It looks like Portland is going to be

2282
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 5: the eighth spot in the seven eight playing game, which

2283
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 5: means they will have two opportunities to get into a

2284
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 5: playoff series, and the Clippers are in a do or

2285
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 5: die in the nine to ten playing game later next week.

2286
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 5: So this was a big deal.

2287
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,640
Speaker 4: Tonight got them where they want, you know, sneak in

2288
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 4: nine ten.

2289
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:20,800
Speaker 5: There are times where I like to think that's true,

2290
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 5: but uh no, this is not that.

2291
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 4: This is not one of those times.

2292
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 5: This was prove yourself tonight against Portland win. This game

2293
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:31,639
Speaker 5: is the biggest game of the season, and they lost

2294
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 5: by nineteen for the second time in a week and

2295
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 5: a half to the Portland trail Blazer. There there's so

2296
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 5: many ways it couldn't have come down to this, and

2297
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 5: yet it did. I was hurting. Did you say I

2298
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 5: was hurting? Did you say that on the air? Brey,

2299
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 5: what did you say? Say it again, that's not what

2300
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 5: you said. You said Nobody cares.

2301
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 6: It's so funny, Okay, Anyway, I clicked the wrong button.

2302
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 6: I meant to go in your ear and say that. Wow,

2303
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 6: I'm a little rusty, I'm a little rest mid Nobody

2304
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:02,640
Speaker 6: cares at him.

2305
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 5: My circuitest route talking about the Clippers to get back

2306
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 5: to this point of this FNA show made me feel

2307
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 5: a little bit better tonight.

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01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:12,840
Speaker 4: Oh good, So he parked up your spirits a little bit.

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01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, it made me. It distracted me talking about Mary

2310
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:19,560
Speaker 5: and getting punched in the gut in Double Dragon and

2311
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 5: shot to death. I actually feel better about life now.

2312
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 5: So uh sentences.

2313
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 4: Oh, those two games left in the regular season for

2314
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 4: most of these teams are just one I think actually

2315
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 4: one one game, so San Antonio was not catching Oklahoma City.

2316
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 4: Oklahoma City clinched I think they clinched the best record

2317
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 4: in the in the league earlier this week, So that

2318
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 4: probably more than anything, solidified the the MVP for Shaie

2319
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 4: Yodas Alexander because we talked about this last week or

2320
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 4: maybe the last couple of weeks that if Winby were

2321
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 4: gonna make ginormous roads on the MVP conversation, san Antonio

2322
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 4: will probably have to end up surpassing Oklahoma City for

2323
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 4: the top seed in the Western Conference. And that's obviously

2324
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 4: not going to happen.

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01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 5: No, just the game, man, and that game is over,

2326
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 5: and yes, SGA is gonna win the MVP. SGA could

2327
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 5: come in second coming in sixth I'll tell you that

2328
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:04,640
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty NBA players that voted in that

2329
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 5: poll embarrassing.

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01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 10: It was.

2331
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 5: You guys are the experts, right, you play the game

2332
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 5: at the highest level experte Yeah, oh that guy's definitely

2333
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,560
Speaker 5: I'm an expert. But anyways, check out the show in

2334
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 5: podcast form. Look for our little logos. Search Fox Sports Radio.

2335
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 5: You will see it there. We have a call, Kevin.

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01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 4: We do, but before we get to the call, I

2337
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 4: want to shout out and this is this is the

2338
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 4: name of someone on X.

2339
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 5: Not Oh, this should be good.

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01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 4: Okay, shout out to late night drug tester. So that's

2341
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 4: what I want to make sure.

2342
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 5: That is his name on X.

2343
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 1: What is it a five o'clock fre giveaway.

2344
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,760
Speaker 4: Late night drug tester at drug Latte, that's what is

2345
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 4: Or is it drug Late? I guess it's drug Late.

2346
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 4: There's only one ta so at drug Late.

2347
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:47,839
Speaker 5: I mean, but there's probably a lot of people testing

2348
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 5: positive if you're testing them late at night.

2349
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 4: I would guess. But Adam, you brought up the golfer

2350
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 4: who tried to petition the PGA to a lot of

2351
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 4: the masters, I should say to allow him to use.

2352
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 5: The golf cart. He wanted a segue.

2353
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 4: Actually, Casey Martin was the name of the golfer.

2354
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2355
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 4: And the reason why you don't remember the name Casey

2356
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 4: Martin is because he really didn't do a whole lot

2357
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:10,200
Speaker 4: of substance in his professional golfing career.

2358
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 5: Because they wouldn't let him use the golf coup.

2359
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:15,759
Speaker 4: Okay, but he is currently the head coach of golf

2360
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 4: at the University of Oregon. So not your neck of

2361
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 4: the woods technically, but you like to stay claimed to

2362
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 4: the Oregon Ducks.

2363
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,639
Speaker 5: I do because I didn't have a college football team

2364
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:30,280
Speaker 5: to root for, it by Ola University in southern California,

2365
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 5: so I had to attach myself to a team that

2366
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 5: is right there but comes up short often. Because that's

2367
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 5: in line with most of my sports.

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01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, it's kind of right. It's like

2369
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 4: the Hey, the Giants won a couple of World.

2370
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:43,760
Speaker 5: Series right now, three and five years, so don't diminish. Oh,

2371
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 5: they won a couple of you know whatever. They did

2372
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 5: great work in those five years. Okay, but now it

2373
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 5: feels like a long time ago. Something else that has

2374
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 5: made me felt good tonight is that we have some

2375
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 5: phone calls here regarding this subject we do.

2376
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 4: We asked the question about the Masters and whether or

2377
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:02,680
Speaker 4: not you're into it, or whether or not you'd be

2378
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,720
Speaker 4: more into it if there was a dominant player like Rory.

2379
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:07,720
Speaker 4: He was currently killing it at the Masters through thirty

2380
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 4: six holes, when Tiger was dominant. Obviously, golf had never

2381
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 4: been more popular. Does it need to have that sort

2382
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 4: of resurgence from someone like Rory McRoy to kind of

2383
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:18,799
Speaker 4: take over and take the reins and be another dominant

2384
01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:19,719
Speaker 4: force for you to be interested?

2385
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 5: Would have been Casey if they gave him that card.

2386
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 4: They' seven seven ninety nine on Fox is the number

2387
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 4: Andrew Bakersfield, Andrew, what's going on?

2388
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 10: What's up?

2389
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:27,800
Speaker 5: Guys?

2390
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 10: Number one? The best rapper in the world is r

2391
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:35,240
Speaker 10: a the rugged Man's okay, but he is white.

2392
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 6: With this.

2393
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 10: If Rory wins, okay and it's just multiple, multiple wins

2394
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 10: for him, does he get another brand new green jacket

2395
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 10: or do they just like put a patch on the

2396
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:48,759
Speaker 10: one he has.

2397
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 5: They just dry clean the other one that's he gets

2398
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 5: a hole.

2399
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 10: Anyways, and I was thinking today that Breeze three should

2400
01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 10: definitely be brought back. I was thinking about that. And

2401
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 10: for me to be interested, I'm blind, So I listen

2402
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:03,960
Speaker 10: to the radio.

2403
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 5: You guys.

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01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 10: You guys will talk about it a lot. If it's

2405
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 10: someone like Rory, like we're talking it now, and so

2406
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 10: I will. I'll be interested in it, and I'll be

2407
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 10: listening through Fox Sports Radio.

2408
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 1: Probably appreciate you.

2409
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 5: Thanks for the calling. You appreciate it, man, It is good.

2410
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 5: We take that compliment more from you than anybody else

2411
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 5: that you listen to this station. I appreciate you, man. Yeah.

2412
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 4: We try to be your eyes. I guess through the radio,

2413
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 4: do our best as much as we can.

2414
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. Look, Rory is likely going to win,

2415
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 5: but it ain't over yet. You never know. We got

2416
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 5: two more rounds to play. You've seen some collapses, Oh yes,

2417
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 5: we have. And the stakes. Look, the fact that he

2418
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,679
Speaker 5: just won last year should give him all the confidence

2419
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 5: he needs. And if he's starting to master this course,

2420
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 5: you know, I think there's something to that. But that

2421
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 5: level of dominance that everybody he's looking for, maybe this

2422
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 5: is going to be that time, maybe him breaking out

2423
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 5: and becoming the player we all thought he was going

2424
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,880
Speaker 5: to be ten years ago. Better late than ever.

2425
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 4: You do wonder, and it's too early, and still we're

2426
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 4: having had round three. Round three's gonna start here in

2427
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:18,640
Speaker 4: a few hours. But you know whether or not it

2428
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 4: creeps into his mind of a here we go again,

2429
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,679
Speaker 4: if he does start to struggle and all of a sudden,

2430
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 4: let's just say that six stroke lead turns to a

2431
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 4: three stroke lead going into Sunday.

2432
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 5: You know he'll start to feel it. That pressure will

2433
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 5: mount on Sunday. Does he wear red like Tiger he

2434
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 5: used to? Or is that off limits? Is that like

2435
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:40,240
Speaker 5: a retired number Tiger?

2436
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 4: He probably he gets so much heat if he did

2437
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:44,639
Speaker 4: something like that, you can't do that. The only person

2438
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 4: that could do that is Tiger's kid. If Tiger actually

2439
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 4: makes it and goes pro So, Bri, we have a

2440
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 4: couple more calls to what do you have? First, we

2441
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 4: got Mark and Philly, Philadelphia.

2442
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 5: What's going on? Mark, phill.

2443
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:56,640
Speaker 1: What's going on?

2444
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 5: Guys?

2445
01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2446
01:49:57,640 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 7: The chokeability factor always makes shifting.

2447
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 5: Yeah. I like the way you put that, that show

2448
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 5: ability factor.

2449
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 7: There's a high level of it. The pressure is immense,

2450
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 7: come son. There was always the Greg Norman epic choke

2451
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 7: against Nick Faldo that everyone enjoyed, where you know, he

2452
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 7: had to roll up his pants because he was putting

2453
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 7: from some creek. But my favorite part of the Masters

2454
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 7: is what they can't talk about. You know, they can't

2455
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 7: call them fans. Oh, they can't call a group of

2456
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 7: people a mob. They can't talk about the prize money.

2457
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,639
Speaker 7: They can't talk about you know, who was the first

2458
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 7: black player to ever play at the Masters. Lee Elder

2459
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 7: can't talk about that on the broadcast, and if you do,

2460
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:44,720
Speaker 7: you get thrown off like Jack Whittaker, Gary McCord, Is

2461
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 7: that real? Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

2462
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 4: They have a very strict set of rules over there.

2463
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 5: But the things we don't speak.

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01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 7: Of like the other tournament, as they say, a tradition

2465
01:50:55,600 --> 01:51:00,599
Speaker 7: unlike any other Yeah, like what for worse?

2466
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:04,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, in many ways, you know, we brought that up earlier.

2467
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, about the black golfers, what they like. Women weren't

2468
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:09,679
Speaker 4: allowed to be members at Augusta for a long period

2469
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 4: of time, was a thing forever.

2470
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, there was a Martha whatever her name was, marched

2471
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 7: across the street from the This golf tournament is so powerful,

2472
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 7: fellas that years ago. This woman I forgot her last name,

2473
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:24,839
Speaker 7: just like I forgot Casey Martin until.

2474
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 1: You reminded me of them.

2475
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 7: This woman staged this protest because they were I don't know,

2476
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 7: anti woman at the Masters, and she got all the

2477
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 7: sponsors to boycott the Masters. They went commercial free that year,

2478
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 7: I believe, and still still turned a dime. I mean,

2479
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 7: their golf shop, their their other sponsorships. They don't need

2480
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,160
Speaker 7: advertising on the Masters. That's why you only see a

2481
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 7: few commercials when you watch the broadcast. That's one of

2482
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 7: the bonuses of watching The Masters is so few commercials.

2483
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 5: Did you get to listen to the bird Did you

2484
01:51:58,560 --> 01:51:59,559
Speaker 5: hear about the food prices?

2485
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 4: By the way, at Augusta too, the entire menu is

2486
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:04,600
Speaker 4: like seventy five bucks. You get a hot dog for

2487
01:52:04,720 --> 01:52:07,640
Speaker 4: like a dollar fifty. They serve hot dogs there. I

2488
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 4: thought there were two fancy pants.

2489
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, you could pick out for under twenty five dollars,

2490
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:14,760
Speaker 7: like you wouldn't believe. The problem is it costs three

2491
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 7: thousand to get in.

2492
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:18,719
Speaker 5: That's a little steep. I would say the food should

2493
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 5: be free of that exactly. It shouldn't be inclusive, basically

2494
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 5: his mark.

2495
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:25,560
Speaker 4: Thanks for listening, man, good stuff, appreciate it.

2496
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 5: Thanks for checking in. Have a good weekend. Great phone call.

2497
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Masters have been very insular throughout. It's uh, well,

2498
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 4: who was the guy and I forget his name? The

2499
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 4: golfer like like flipped off the camera yesterday and apparently

2500
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 4: they're talking. Oh but I like that investigat because he

2501
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 4: hit a bad shot, was having a bat round.

2502
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 5: And he I guess they're birdy right here.

2503
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 4: And it was against the Master's rules and they're embarrassed

2504
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 4: or something, so they might kick them out of the

2505
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 4: turtle clutching McIntyre. Okay, thank you. That's why abria is.

2506
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 4: McIntyre's like, get over yourselves. Yeah, get the bleep.

2507
01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 5: They're so buttoned up that it takes away from the

2508
01:52:57,479 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 5: every man like we're we were when shooting McGavin was like,

2509
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:04,639
Speaker 5: this ain't a rock concert. When they had the beach

2510
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 5: ball going and happy Gilmore and he took a swing

2511
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:07,320
Speaker 5: at it.

2512
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:07,680
Speaker 8: Ye.

2513
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 5: There's different approaches to this, but he kind of does.

2514
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:15,639
Speaker 5: Even though he's a caricature, he represents a certain level

2515
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:20,800
Speaker 5: of golfer or traditionalist or purists that exists in real

2516
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 5: life that they're trying to hold on to. I guess

2517
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 5: that the Bob Costas of golfers like that you buttoned up,

2518
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 5: have some respect for yourself. I get it.

2519
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:31,479
Speaker 6: You know.

2520
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 4: There was the kid last year in Round one who

2521
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 4: like Pete in the pond or something. During the Masters.

2522
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 4: This actually happens. I was on the air with Anthony Gargana.

2523
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 5: We talked about this. Get the movie problem child.

2524
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 4: I swear he was. He had to go and he

2525
01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 4: was like on like the ninth hole or something.

2526
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:48,600
Speaker 1: Play it where to go?

2527
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 5: So he just peede in the pond. Now I think

2528
01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 5: they allowed him to finish the finish plane like some

2529
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 5: frog come up dead upside down. Hen what was that

2530
01:53:57,520 --> 01:53:58,000
Speaker 5: guy eating?

2531
01:53:58,120 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 1: Thankfully not.

2532
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 4: That's a little unbecoming, regardless of a tournament you're playing in,

2533
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 4: you know. Obviously I understand that the master is now

2534
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 4: on HBO. Yeah, it was so last year. Jose Luis

2535
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 4: Ballistair is his name? He uh pete and raised creek

2536
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 4: on the thirteenth hole, right, So thirteenth is Amen corner because.

2537
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 5: That's his creek now he claimed it. That's his territorial.

2538
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:25,919
Speaker 4: Said he forgot the location of the nearby restrooms.

2539
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 5: That felt the strong immediate urge to go, so he

2540
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:30,680
Speaker 5: just went in. The just went in, is he? And

2541
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:32,760
Speaker 5: Malcolm said in the Jurassic Park, when you gotta go,

2542
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 5: you gotta go. Right.

2543
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 4: We have another caller, bre who do we have on online?

2544
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 4: Dick and Dayton?

2545
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 10: What's going on? Dick by?

2546
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:41,760
Speaker 9: Good morning guys.

2547
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 5: How are you good morning, Dick? How are things with you?

2548
01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 10: Oh?

2549
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 5: Pretty good?

2550
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 9: I just wanted to touch on being from up Nors,

2551
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 9: you know, on a frequent caller. I want to congratulate

2552
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:53,400
Speaker 9: to Cleveland Caffelliers for a good year.

2553
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 5: Year's not over yet, No, it's not.

2554
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 4: You saw it the old Tony Bruno like when somebody

2555
01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 4: would get eliminated. We'll let think the keipland Cavaliers participating

2556
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 4: in the season this year.

2557
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, first of all, let me tell you something. Cleveland

2558
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 5: Cavaliers fans, they are not celebrating anything yet. They have

2559
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 5: been known for coming up small the past few years

2560
01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 5: in the playoffs. They're hoping their fortunes change.

2561
01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 4: Well, they hard to fix James Hart fix that. He's

2562
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:20,640
Speaker 4: a clutch playoff performer.

2563
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:24,120
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's the case necessarily, especially late

2564
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 5: in the series. Okay, yeah, that he could actually help

2565
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,040
Speaker 5: reinforce the fact that they have some issues in those

2566
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 5: big games. But we'll see.

2567
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:32,959
Speaker 4: So Dick, not very confident in the Cavaliers.

2568
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 9: Huh, Well, I am, but you know, you gotta play.

2569
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 9: But you know, they had a lot of injuries. But

2570
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 9: they've come a long ways, you know, and I'm rooting

2571
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:45,080
Speaker 9: for the Guardigans this year. They're starting out pretty good.

2572
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 4: Day guys, Dick, thanks for calling, man, appreciate it.

2573
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:51,960
Speaker 5: Talking about the guy ping in the pond. And then

2574
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 5: we get a phone Okay.

2575
01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 1: Uh is it?

2576
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 5: Time was not lost on me. Yes, we got to

2577
01:55:57,640 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 5: take a quick time out because you know what's up

2578
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 5: now next, the return of Breeze three. Bree do you

2579
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:05,840
Speaker 5: want to give us a little bit of a tease

2580
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 5: on the subject matter that we'll be talking about here?

2581
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 6: Literally the subject matter that you guys have been talking

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Speaker 6: about for the past hour Masters?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, okay, and anything different.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get into it.

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Speaker 4: It's like my favorite hole of the Masters, or my

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01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:23,800
Speaker 4: favorite pontip in at the my favorite pontip in at

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Speaker 4: the Masters.

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Speaker 5: All right, that's also a drop. All right, the double

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Speaker 5: entendres will stop, will they more? F it A on

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Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio with Breeze three next. Because we're three

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Speaker 5: years old, apparently.

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Speaker 1: This smashage will self destruct.

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Speaker 4: FNA Cotton fn.

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Speaker 5: A on Fox Sports Radio final segment. Remember for the

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Speaker 5: here on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart app all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Breeze back. So that means one of our favorite

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Speaker 4: sex segments makes its return.

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Speaker 5: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: But fore course it's entertainment. It's good. It's Breeze three.

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Speaker 2: All right, what are you?

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Speaker 6: I don't even know what you said. It's fine.

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Speaker 5: Anyways, there thanks.

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Speaker 6: A lot, Okay, I said, we were talking. You guys

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Speaker 6: are talking masters, Rory McElroy all that fun stuff. So

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Speaker 6: every year after a Master's winner is selected, the following year,

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Speaker 6: they get to decide the dinner, like it's like a tradition,

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Speaker 6: the Master's Champion Champions dinner. So Rory McElroy had to

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Speaker 6: pick some some three appetizers, two entrees, and three different desserts.

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Speaker 6: So then I thought, like, those are three different sections

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Speaker 6: that would be Breeze three. So for my app if

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Speaker 6: I was like a Master's winner, and then I had

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Speaker 6: to come up with the dinner the next year whatever, Okay,

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Speaker 6: So for my appetizer, I went bacon chips and these

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Speaker 6: are there's the fried bacon like strips but they taste

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Speaker 6: like chips. And there's three different dips like a horseradish,

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Speaker 6: a blue cheese, and a whiskey maple butter sauce and

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Speaker 6: you dip the little bacon into the sauceage. Where do

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Speaker 6: you get this at It's in Seal Beach. It's fine.

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Speaker 6: My entree I had a few, but what I selected

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Speaker 6: was like a filet minon, like a nine ounce, a

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Speaker 6: lobster tail and garlic tricolored butter pasta. So that would

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Speaker 6: be like the little eNTRI thing.

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Speaker 4: Really, it's too late at night. It's too early in

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Speaker 4: the morning for me to be this hungry.

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Speaker 5: You talking like this. Yeah, and the Food channel has

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Speaker 5: been on in here the entire time, starving.

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Speaker 6: So but the dessert, I went with a white cake

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Speaker 6: with the marshmallow frosting.

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Speaker 5: Why is it gonna be a white cake? Better have

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Speaker 5: a white cake than a chocolate cake.

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Speaker 4: That be racist, ridiculous. It wasn't even finished.

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Speaker 6: You're so rude, Okay, A white cake with a marshmallow

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Speaker 6: frosting with a dark chocolate ganache filling. What's it's like

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Speaker 6: a thicker kind of frosting.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but it's delicious, culture.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: A dark chocolate ganache filling with a white cake and

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Speaker 6: a marshmallow frosting. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 5: That does sound good? Where do I get this cake?

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Speaker 6: It's my brain, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So it's your sources here. I need to know

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Speaker 5: where to get these things.

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Speaker 4: All more in depth on this than I went online.

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Speaker 4: I'll just put it that way, bro, I just came

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Speaker 4: up with.

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Speaker 9: It on my own.

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Speaker 6: But the bacon chips that is from Seal Beach. But anyway,

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Speaker 6: so those are my three mark what are yours?

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Speaker 11: So I figured that the it's like tomato and ricotta, cheese,

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Speaker 11: and then for the main dish the tomahawks steak with

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Speaker 11: mashed potatoes and broccoli.

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Speaker 5: CA go wrong there, and then apple pie for a

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Speaker 5: big dessert. That'll work. That'll work where you got at them?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Okay. Clearman's Gallery is a place also called the Boat.

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Speaker 5: There's one in Pasadena and they have the best garlic

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Speaker 5: cheese bread of all times cheese bread. So that can

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Speaker 5: be my appetizer there.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And then my main course is going to be garlic

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Speaker 5: chips from a little place up north called Pizzeria Classico,

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Speaker 5: So I'll be dipping that and a lot of ranch too.

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Speaker 5: And then my dessert, my favorite dessert, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I you know what I got rear ended to the

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Speaker 5: basket Robins drive through going for two scoops of peanut

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Speaker 5: butter chocolate ice cream.

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Speaker 4: I'll just go with that.

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Speaker 2: It was that good.

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Speaker 5: Now I go through all this insures bs, so I

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Speaker 5: guess it was worth it.

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Speaker 6: Your entree is chips.

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Speaker 5: Now, they're not actual chips, They're like garlic bread, like

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Speaker 5: little cut up slice things. They're really good. Petrio Classico

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Speaker 5: garlic chips. Check it out.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be very basic when it comes to my

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Speaker 4: appetizer in shr couterie, mix it up with a nice

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Speaker 4: darcuterie to get it to start. Parpa Daily ragu with

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Speaker 4: wild boar nomenal. Had this on my honeymoon in Italy.

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Speaker 4: Is one of the greatest things I've ever eaten in

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Speaker 4: my life. Wild boar, Yeah, wild boar meat? Did you

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Speaker 4: kill I did not kill it myself, did not kill

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Speaker 4: it myself. But Parpadelli ragou with wild boar absolutely spectacular

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Speaker 4: and like just a classic chocolate cake.

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Speaker 5: I don't need anything special fancy. We've split a few

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Speaker 5: chocolate cake back in our day. That's what.

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Speaker 4: And brie. It does not matter. Dark chocolate milk, chocolate, chocolates,

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Speaker 4: all that matters.

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Speaker 5: I'll take chocolate ing. That's a throwback.

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Speaker 4: That was a good question for It was a lot

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Speaker 4: of different options I could have gone to too.

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Speaker 5: There By the way, Hey, you know, I bet we

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Speaker 5: have some callers from San Antonio that could have wait

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Speaker 5: in YO.

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Speaker 4: Of course, you take a shot at them on the

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Speaker 4: way out. Thank you, Brie, Thank you, Mark Project and

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Speaker 4: Io coming up next on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: Talk to you next week.