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Speaker 1: twenty two, season eighteen, Episode number sixty two. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the latest edition of The Break, live from s WBC
Speaker 1: Morgage Studios. At the start, we're presented by mill of Light,
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Speaker 1: and we get to talk about something not so scary.
Speaker 1: Cowboys get a win yesterday they win forty nine twenty
Speaker 1: nine in a game that we would These guys tell
Speaker 1: you what they think of this game. And but let's
Speaker 1: start with you. What is the story of this game?
Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm unprepared. You knew it was coming, Shoot
Speaker 1: it was yeah, No, I'm storyline. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the exact storyline is, but I'm pretty damn excited about
Speaker 1: what this offense is looking like. Dak Prescott. I thought
Speaker 1: he had how Americans say, hell of a game? How
Speaker 1: about that one, Bryan That, Yeah, that kind of hell
Speaker 1: of the game. No love seeing him run, love seeing
Speaker 1: him just use it, just be him. He was just him. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they ran the ball very very well. I think that
Speaker 1: we'll probably be talking about this in the next weeks
Speaker 1: to come. The whole debate once again about Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: and Tony Poller doesn't help that Tony rent so well yesterday,
Speaker 1: but it's a great problem to have, so long story short,
Speaker 1: I'm just very very happy about everything that I saw
Speaker 1: offensively and what the Cowboys were able to do, and
Speaker 1: even the receivers. We saw a lot more of Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup and Cede Lamb, which is kind of what we
Speaker 1: were talking about during the week, just how Kellen gets
Speaker 1: them involved and open in situations where they can be
Speaker 1: open more, and I think we saw some improvement in
Speaker 1: that aspect. Nick I thought they were able to show
Speaker 1: that they could win with offense, and that's something that
Speaker 1: you know at some point they're gonna have to win
Speaker 1: different ways. This defense still carries this team, but they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to win with offense. They showed that they
Speaker 1: can do it. Kellen Moore I thought, had a great
Speaker 1: game that he called so you're gonna have to win,
Speaker 1: you know, than the playoffs. There's gonna be games that
Speaker 1: are you know, grinded out games. There're gonna be some
Speaker 1: high scoring games. They every game takes us a life
Speaker 1: of its own, and this one did, and they Coaly
Speaker 1: showed that for this game they could do it right.
Speaker 1: We boh with your defensive depth. And I say this
Speaker 1: in a way of that there was one time where
Speaker 1: I looked on the field. There was mcquamu, there was Clark,
Speaker 1: there was Marquise Bell. They were out there fighting against
Speaker 1: a team that if you don't get practice reps against
Speaker 1: during the week with the way that they scheme, these
Speaker 1: guys don't. They don't. They're scout team guys out there
Speaker 1: playing right now and having to defend an offense that
Speaker 1: stresses you out. They stress you out with the running game.
Speaker 1: We talked about it here just a little bit pre show.
Speaker 1: They're down twenty something points, they're still running the ball,
Speaker 1: and now they test your physicality. Are you able to
Speaker 1: get all blocks? You're able to do the things necessary
Speaker 1: to stop them? And a lot of guys on that
Speaker 1: defense yesterday got to play that don't normally get reps.
Speaker 1: And you know it's not an excuse. I mean, the
Speaker 1: Bears got yards, but they didn't get points. You know,
Speaker 1: they didn't really get points. That's what running the ball
Speaker 1: all will do for you. It'll it'll. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: grind people down, but how many points you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore was outstanding calling a game yesterday. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give this defensive depth and give the front office
Speaker 1: some credit for getting these guys involved, and get these
Speaker 1: defensive coaches some credit for getting them ready enough to
Speaker 1: play and to finish that football game, because at the
Speaker 1: bitter end, it was not the team that you started
Speaker 1: with on defense at all. Let's talk about this offense yesterday.
Speaker 1: They had six touchdowns in nine possessions. I'm not including
Speaker 1: the final possession where they just had they just sneled
Speaker 1: on the ball and then they had a TV in
Speaker 1: their first four possessions. They got off to a fast start,
Speaker 1: which again goes to the point that you guys are
Speaker 1: making and I think everyone thought, hey, you get out
Speaker 1: to a fast lead on these guys, you make them
Speaker 1: one dimensional. Had to make them have to throw the ball.
Speaker 1: They don't. They did not. They kept running the ball
Speaker 1: and they were doing it effectively. They just couldn't catch
Speaker 1: up with that formula. But Cowboys offense put up four
Speaker 1: and forty two yards. Dak was I think outstanding twenty
Speaker 1: one of twenty seven, seventy seven points seven percent completion rate.
Speaker 1: That's two weeks in a row that he's been around
Speaker 1: that seventy five seventy seven range in completions, which is
Speaker 1: a really great number. Two hundred and fifty yards, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: one interception, one hundred and fourteen point five rating. He
Speaker 1: also had the five rushes for thirty four yards. Nick,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about you in the press box. There
Speaker 1: was a play just before the one of the nice
Speaker 1: runs that he had. I think it might have been
Speaker 1: a touchdown run. But right before that play you saw
Speaker 1: it and you were like, man, he's got all this
Speaker 1: room out there and he didn't run it, and you
Speaker 1: were like, man, this is not the Dak. Come on,
Speaker 1: you gotta be the Dack I need. And next play
Speaker 1: here we go touchdown. But let's talk about that. What
Speaker 1: what what part of Dak's game stood out to you
Speaker 1: the most yesterday Nick, we'll star are you um? I
Speaker 1: think I think he. I thought he took what the
Speaker 1: defense was given, which was a lot of slants. You
Speaker 1: know how I feel about that. I think that that's
Speaker 1: one thing that Dak isn't great at throwing as the slant. Shockingly.
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, other than Aikman, we haven't seen
Speaker 1: like Romo wasn't good at the slant. It just wasn't
Speaker 1: his best throw, you know. And but Gallup helped him
Speaker 1: out to yesterday that he didn't as much before. But
Speaker 1: I thought, just just a little bit of moving there's
Speaker 1: one play, remember I think I don't remember exactly what happened.
Speaker 1: It was a very subtle step up and rolled to
Speaker 1: the right step kind of resetisfied and feet and throw it.
Speaker 1: And that's something that Cooper Rush we didn't see from him.
Speaker 1: He likes it a clean pocket, stand there and throw.
Speaker 1: He could make the throw, but this was just like
Speaker 1: he had to just off your spot just a little bit.
Speaker 1: And Dak, you know, and he makes good throws on
Speaker 1: the run. That one wasn't on the run. It was
Speaker 1: just kind of resetting his feet. But he moves in
Speaker 1: the pocket pretty well. And that's gonna get better and better.
Speaker 1: I just thought third down, he rolled out, he had it,
Speaker 1: he could have got the first down, and he didn't
Speaker 1: take any threw it to Rowdy back there in the
Speaker 1: end zone. And then the next play I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean that's the kind of deck that in the
Speaker 1: next play he runs in for a touchdown for I
Speaker 1: can even finished my sentence, right, Yeah. I think the
Speaker 1: thing with Dak was the we're going to learn today
Speaker 1: The interception wasn't his fault. When you sit down and
Speaker 1: I think we have coordinators today, right, did they get
Speaker 1: did they answer those questions for you and stuff? I
Speaker 1: think that somebody off the you know, somebody's going to
Speaker 1: be able to find out. You know. I was talking
Speaker 1: with Isaiah standback about it. We were both watching the
Speaker 1: play and the description of how you the play was
Speaker 1: run with the tight ends holding the linebackers in place,
Speaker 1: and then you run the route in between the safety
Speaker 1: and the linebackers. I think you're going to learn there,
Speaker 1: maybe off the record or something that Lamb needs to
Speaker 1: be that route needs to be further inside. He went
Speaker 1: too far up the field. Dak was throwing that ball
Speaker 1: in a way that it was for that just he
Speaker 1: was going to try and fit it between the linebackers
Speaker 1: who were held by the tight end, and then also
Speaker 1: the safety who was playing deep in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. If that route gets thrown, if he runs
Speaker 1: that route a little bit flatter inside, that's a big play.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what Dak saw last night when
Speaker 1: I saw this, saying damn, he didn't see the safety again.
Speaker 1: And when you watch the way the route combination is
Speaker 1: with the linebackers, the tight ends, and then where it
Speaker 1: needs to be and how deep that guy was playing,
Speaker 1: Dac made the right read. He just needs a little
Speaker 1: help from his this guy getting inside. And I think
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, Mike mccarthy'll admit that today you know real
Speaker 1: quick and before you jump in on that, I wanted
Speaker 1: to say about that. You know, when you talk about
Speaker 1: those kinds of routes and even talking going back to
Speaker 1: the slant route, I agree with you Nick that I
Speaker 1: don't know that it necessarily matches up all the time.
Speaker 1: It's a route that seems to be a bit of
Speaker 1: a problem for them, But I don't know that it's
Speaker 1: all Dac. I do wonder in some instances, are your
Speaker 1: receivers taking the right angles. Are they making their breaks
Speaker 1: at the right, because that is a very precise route.
Speaker 1: It is literally just like it's a precise situation for
Speaker 1: the quarterback. He's got a three step drop, get the
Speaker 1: ball out, and so everything has to match up. The
Speaker 1: receivers have to be in the right depth, they have
Speaker 1: to be at the right angle. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff that's involved in that. So I'm not sure it's
Speaker 1: always just the quarterback, as much as it could be.
Speaker 1: Receivers and quarterback just aren't on the same page. It
Speaker 1: seems like with these slants, to your point, they run
Speaker 1: a route later in the game, they run a route
Speaker 1: with Gallup and he's going against Jalen Johnson thirty three,
Speaker 1: and Jalen Johnson knocks the ball down and he tries
Speaker 1: to outside set him and Johnson jams him, and then
Speaker 1: he's trying to get back inside and now the ball
Speaker 1: you know, it's you're right, it's the timing, it's the depth,
Speaker 1: it's all that involved. So yeah, if you don't have
Speaker 1: that SYNCD up, you're gonna have some plays that are
Speaker 1: gonna get They're gonna look bad either. You know, the
Speaker 1: ball's not gonna be where it needs to be or
Speaker 1: the receivers, not where he needs to be on the round.
Speaker 1: And to me, a lot of that is about time together.
Speaker 1: I don't know if with Dak missing last year as
Speaker 1: much time that he missed, Like when you start thinking
Speaker 1: about how much time he's practiced, time he may have missed,
Speaker 1: it becomes a situation. He got to practice this week,
Speaker 1: and I think it showed up. I think the way
Speaker 1: the offense was running, I think going back with Dak,
Speaker 1: I think Kellen Moore called a hell of a game.
Speaker 1: I mentioned that I think that Dak ran the game
Speaker 1: plan perfectly for how they needed to play yesterday. I
Speaker 1: really do. I think with all the movement in the
Speaker 1: throwing and putting, ceedee lamb in the backfield and three
Speaker 1: bunch tight end over here and keep hitting the spot
Speaker 1: here and then oh we're gonna throw a screen over
Speaker 1: here to these tight ends and let them run. I
Speaker 1: mean they had they Kelly Moore I tweeted this out.
Speaker 1: I thought his first fifteen were excellent. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: let me see the next fifteen, and the next fifteen
Speaker 1: were just as good. And I thought they had really
Speaker 1: good balance when it came the run pass ratio. But
Speaker 1: the way that they made the Bears defend the whole field.
Speaker 1: I think that's something that was super impressive yesterday. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the the O line allowed Dak to be
Speaker 1: very very comfortable, Like he just felt comfortable. He trusted
Speaker 1: what he got, He trusted the receivers, the tight ends.
Speaker 1: The running game was working. You talk about balance, talk
Speaker 1: about all the balance between the running game, Dak running himself,
Speaker 1: the ball, then the receivers, the tight ends, so every
Speaker 1: single component was working. It wasn't clean all the way
Speaker 1: because there was that interception. Also, talk about Turpin. Feel
Speaker 1: like I saw someone running, I'm like, hold, I didn't
Speaker 1: see the number just yet. I look up and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the heck, Who's Who's that fast? There's only one
Speaker 1: guy that's that fast. And of course it was Turpin.
Speaker 1: So that's another thing that you know, we've been talking
Speaker 1: about it on here as well, and it was really
Speaker 1: really good to see them incorporate that into the game.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we get to see it a lot more because man,
Speaker 1: he can freaking run. That guy is fast. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: when I went back and watched the member, because I
Speaker 1: said to you in the press box, eleven yard run
Speaker 1: on first down, they pitched it to him. The next
Speaker 1: play faked it to him and there was and it
Speaker 1: had CD dragging across. And I watched fifty three the
Speaker 1: linebacker for the Bears was cheating way over. We're seeing
Speaker 1: Turpin and it got out of the spot and CD
Speaker 1: filled right there. That's exactly what we're talking about about
Speaker 1: what Turpin can do. There's another play that I thought of, Brian.
Speaker 1: When I watched it again, I was like, this is
Speaker 1: exactly what you've been asking Kellen Moore to do. Is
Speaker 1: scheme the receivers open the touchdown the CD. He gets
Speaker 1: him in motion and he puts him in motion to
Speaker 1: him the right to the left behind Gallup. Gallup fights
Speaker 1: through the corner and so the safety don't know exactly
Speaker 1: what toll because he's over here fighting with the corner
Speaker 1: and just pops CD wide opening between great throw by Dock. No,
Speaker 1: it was and I'm glad you mentioned that it's well designed.
Speaker 1: You're talking about bringing him in motion, getting him on
Speaker 1: the move, and then it's almost like they're running a
Speaker 1: wheel route with the running back out of the backfield
Speaker 1: where we see so many times they're open, but he
Speaker 1: wheels it between and now you put the corner in
Speaker 1: the safety in a bind and he's just able and
Speaker 1: Dak reads it the whole way. It was a great design.
Speaker 1: And that's that's yeah. Yeah, we're we're all getting some
Speaker 1: things that we asked for. Whether it's the Turpin plays
Speaker 1: where that's the scheme guys open, you know, just a
Speaker 1: lot more creativity of trying to help your players. There's
Speaker 1: no way that any team. I mean, yes, kans C
Speaker 1: has Kelsey and there's Kittle and all that. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think any team has three tight ends, really four
Speaker 1: Because McEwan, I thought, did a nice job on something
Speaker 1: on your on your on your your play to uh Turpin.
Speaker 1: He was in the play in the game. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was in the game on the on the line and
Speaker 1: they had a full back. They had a Hendershot as
Speaker 1: the full back and that's how they kind of ran
Speaker 1: the play. They these four tight ends, you know, really three,
Speaker 1: but but McEwan played them as well. I thought Schultz
Speaker 1: did a nice job. But Hendershot and me and Ferguson,
Speaker 1: I mean, they they've got something with these tight ends.
Speaker 1: They're only going to get better and when they get
Speaker 1: stronger and and and even more, you know in sync
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, to your point though, I mean exactly
Speaker 1: what you're telling. There was a sequence where they kept
Speaker 1: putting CD in the backfield and they kept running that.
Speaker 1: They kept running the RPO going to the right. They
Speaker 1: finally handed him the ball. It wasn't blocked well. The
Speaker 1: one time he tried to run, he got a little bit,
Speaker 1: but they kept running it. But they what they were
Speaker 1: doing was they were taking the tight ends, all three
Speaker 1: of them, and they were bunching them together out why
Speaker 1: and then they put them right, and then they put
Speaker 1: them left, and then they put them out, and they
Speaker 1: kept doing it back. They basically flipped four different times
Speaker 1: exactly back and forth exactly they were doing those They
Speaker 1: threw a screen out yea twice. Yeah, there's screens out there.
Speaker 1: Twice they had it. They had the one down field
Speaker 1: that really downfield. But it was like a comeback to
Speaker 1: to Schultz like they were they were playing off of
Speaker 1: this whole idea that and this is what I love
Speaker 1: about how Kellen did it. You send out three tight ends,
Speaker 1: the defense immediately thinks they're in big, so we need
Speaker 1: to match big on Big tweeted that, and then what
Speaker 1: happens is now they go up tempo, they didn't allow
Speaker 1: them to then get out of it once they saw
Speaker 1: they got these tight ends out wide. Now the often
Speaker 1: the defense is stuck with their big package out there
Speaker 1: and they got linebackers out here to try to cover
Speaker 1: these guys in space, which isn't that's a favor for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. So that's the kind of stuff that when
Speaker 1: we talk about be creative, Kellen Moore, that's creative. I
Speaker 1: love this. And two, to your point, though, you take
Speaker 1: the running backs out and you put a wide receiver
Speaker 1: at running back. So now it's like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: they're playing with a running backs as the half back,
Speaker 1: three three tight ends playing as like trips wide receivers.
Speaker 1: So now you're just totally messing with how they're how
Speaker 1: they're going to line up. And again to your point,
Speaker 1: up tempo, don't let them back into their into the
Speaker 1: bay to their personnel. And those are things also that
Speaker 1: you don't what you don't think about all the time
Speaker 1: is that's just one more package that now opponent's coming
Speaker 1: up have to spend time working on. If they come
Speaker 1: out in this, here's how we're going to handle it,
Speaker 1: and you can play off of that. You can do
Speaker 1: some other things with that package. You can really go
Speaker 1: big and force them. Now if they decide they're gonna
Speaker 1: run out there with a smaller package because they think
Speaker 1: you're gonna put them out wide. Now, I'll actually run
Speaker 1: some players where you put them all in and you
Speaker 1: have them tight and then run from there. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of things you can do off that. I love
Speaker 1: that he did that in that sequence. Are we gonna
Speaker 1: take our first break and we come back? One of
Speaker 1: the questions I have for you guys is what do
Speaker 1: you think was the most interesting thing that Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: did yesterday? Because we talked about someone, we talked about
Speaker 1: the tight ends, we talked about Turpin, we talked about
Speaker 1: dak as a runner. I want to know what you
Speaker 1: guys think is the most interesting thing. And then of
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Speaker 1: And uh, here's my question for you. Guys. We talked
Speaker 1: about a little bit before the break. What stood out
Speaker 1: to you most about how Kell and Cawley offense and
Speaker 1: I talked about the tight ends, We talked about his
Speaker 1: use of turpin, We talked about how Dak was in
Speaker 1: the running game a little bit more yesterday. Could be
Speaker 1: other things, but what stood out to you most? Well?
Speaker 1: For me, I mean we did talk about a lot
Speaker 1: of it. I mean what stood out the most is
Speaker 1: that you know, you have a guy that just scored
Speaker 1: a touchdown and everybody got his first career touchdown, everyone's
Speaker 1: high five in him, and then they showed that he
Speaker 1: was one inch away from scoring, so it's first and
Speaker 1: goal in the one, and then they don't give him
Speaker 1: the ball. I think you said one hundred percent you
Speaker 1: should give it to him, right, Yeah? I did. I
Speaker 1: said it's one hundred percent chance that the ball's going
Speaker 1: to him. Was I wrong. I mean, it was a fake,
Speaker 1: so they went to him, but then he pulled it away.
Speaker 1: I can't believe he did that, honestly, but I think
Speaker 1: look going back and looking at it, I think you
Speaker 1: would have been stuffed for a one year at loss.
Speaker 1: So but anyways, that would have been interesting. I mean,
Speaker 1: but you know, then then we wouldn't have had one
Speaker 1: of the coolest celebrations of all time. So the Rodeo movideo.
Speaker 1: You didn't see it. I didn't see it. You're too
Speaker 1: busy to make my notes. You don't care about you know.
Speaker 1: It's funny because usually, I mean, this is just me
Speaker 1: in my head. I'm thinking, like maybe there's some kind
Speaker 1: of not that I've seen anything to give me this impression.
Speaker 1: But when you see younger tight Ends playing well, and
Speaker 1: then you got a guy that's on a franchise tag
Speaker 1: and all that you think, and this is me speaking,
Speaker 1: you think maybe there's some kind of animosity or of
Speaker 1: some sort there, and then to see that kind of
Speaker 1: celebration Dalton Shoals partaking it and be so like a teammate,
Speaker 1: you know, being part of the fun and just being
Speaker 1: just having fun out there and doing that kind of
Speaker 1: cele ray shot. It was just very refreshing and you're
Speaker 1: like and pretty cool to see. So I definitely enjoy
Speaker 1: that celebration on my mouth. Cool. I was shocked that
Speaker 1: it was Scholtz down there. I thought I didn't think
Speaker 1: Schultz was the one, like that's the cattle, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be hinder Shot, and no
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was Fus That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was Schultz. So it was just it was kind
Speaker 1: of refreshing to see that. Yeah, not every you know,
Speaker 1: lead tied end just kind of leaves the other two
Speaker 1: to the side, you know what I mean, and says, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going to help you out. You know,
Speaker 1: not very often sometimes they all worked together in one
Speaker 1: big the emplier. You want to tell um, hey, Jason Witten,
Speaker 1: and he'll tell you. He goes, I'm not helping these
Speaker 1: young bucks to get up there and try to take
Speaker 1: my job. I'm not doing this young what bucks? Oh
Speaker 1: I heard something else? Now, all right, Bryan, how do
Speaker 1: you follow that? The you know, I think the thing
Speaker 1: to me, you did see the creativity with the offense,
Speaker 1: you did see the no huddle, you did see the aggressiveness.
Speaker 1: You did see them make them. I think Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: was comfortable running the football the way they've been running
Speaker 1: the football, whether it's up inside. I think they did
Speaker 1: a great job of getting you know, getting the backup,
Speaker 1: running back ready to roll. I think the offense they said, no,
Speaker 1: this is how we run the football. This is what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna run it inside when we
Speaker 1: have to. You know, the quarterback sneak was a great
Speaker 1: example of how the things have been kind of going
Speaker 1: for them in the running game a little bit. Yea,
Speaker 1: when you get you know, you get to be Oddish
Speaker 1: and Martin and you know, you get the whole side
Speaker 1: of the Bears defense to cave in and they don't
Speaker 1: even think it. They think it's gonna be a run.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think it's gonna be quarterback sneak.
Speaker 1: They're playing run and now Dak is just balanced out
Speaker 1: the gate. Here you go. But I think Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: you know, he could have got it. Like last week
Speaker 1: on those third down runs, the Paul was going to
Speaker 1: the outside outside outside, No, he said, the heck with this,
Speaker 1: We're gonna attack this. We're gonna attack the Bears, and
Speaker 1: so I think the last week was trying to kind
Speaker 1: of maybe see something different, but he realized, nah, we
Speaker 1: need to go at these guys running the football, and
Speaker 1: you know they you know, Malik did a great job.
Speaker 1: I mean there was some times in the past protection
Speaker 1: where Malik they got him ready to play. They got
Speaker 1: this kid ready to play to where Blitz pick up,
Speaker 1: they run a twist stunt. Him and Martin have to
Speaker 1: sort things out. That's coaching, you know, that's that's Hey,
Speaker 1: this is a young kid that runs scout team all
Speaker 1: week and now he's thrown into a game to have
Speaker 1: to make a key block so the ball can get out. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, Kellen, the things that they were able to do,
Speaker 1: not be afraid or cautious because they had certain pieces
Speaker 1: out and to get galloped going early in that game,
Speaker 1: I think was a good thing on his part as well.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Tony Pollard in this run game. Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard yesterday was fourteen carriages, one hundred and thirty one
Speaker 1: yards and nine point four yard heverage. Amazing, three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna ask this question, and I know it
Speaker 1: might be it might get some some weird rolled eyes
Speaker 1: but it's something that fans are talking about it. I
Speaker 1: do think it's something that's worth a discussion. Is do
Speaker 1: you think that the Cowboys need to reconsider how they're
Speaker 1: deploying their two running backs after seeing what Tony Poller
Speaker 1: could do yesterday? Yeah, we'll get your more explosive guy
Speaker 1: and opportunities to be explosive, you know, I mean at
Speaker 1: some point, like like we saw it. I'll take you
Speaker 1: back to two thousand and nine. I mean, Miles Austin
Speaker 1: starts a games, it starts because of an injury, has
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty yards and two touchdowns in the game,
Speaker 1: Like like, okay, well maybe maybe he wasn't gonna start
Speaker 1: if he goes and doesn't do that. And now you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: if you've got that potential from start to finish of
Speaker 1: a game, maybe, So I got a stat for you, Okay,
Speaker 1: Tony Poler started three games at running back. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: scored forty points in all three of those games. And
Speaker 1: now one of them he was not really the starter
Speaker 1: again the Falcons twenty twenty. But these two games that
Speaker 1: he started and he scored five touchdowns and these last
Speaker 1: two starts at running back, So I just think two
Speaker 1: weeks ago it was fifteen to twelve and Zeke. So
Speaker 1: it's fifteen to twelve. I said this on the air
Speaker 1: this morning radio in one O five three, sixty forty
Speaker 1: for Zeke. If it's sixty forty for Pollard, I think
Speaker 1: that's fine and it helps it Zeke Stein And that's
Speaker 1: kind of what they're doing right now. They kind of
Speaker 1: ride at the hot hand in certain situations. Some games
Speaker 1: a little more polished, some games a little more Zeke.
Speaker 1: So really that wouldn't be a departure from what they've
Speaker 1: been doing, right No. I mean, I'll let y'all chime in,
Speaker 1: but I but you can say this though, last that
Speaker 1: game against Detroit, maybe if Pollard gets a few more
Speaker 1: carries early in the game, it's not ten six in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. You know, he's got that home run ability.
Speaker 1: And so I've been I've been like fighting it. I've
Speaker 1: been in there on the Zeke corner and does all
Speaker 1: this stuff. When you got a guy the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: breaking fifty five yard runs like that after he's had
Speaker 1: a bunch of carries, I think he brings an element
Speaker 1: that Zeke doesn't have. And I just think that they
Speaker 1: need to work. Maybe just must dodge it a little bit.
Speaker 1: Nothing crazy, They're both going to play a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that to me was the most impressive part. You look
Speaker 1: at the fourth quarter and the way he was running
Speaker 1: the ball in the fourth quarter, and these were long.
Speaker 1: You know, he was explosive throughout the whole game. But
Speaker 1: that's the wonder. It's like, Okay, can he hold up
Speaker 1: running constantly throughout the game and make it to the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter? And he showed that. So I think I'm
Speaker 1: I hate to say this. You know, I've been team
Speaker 1: Zeke for the longest time and I love Zeke, but
Speaker 1: maybe this is a time where maybe we do need
Speaker 1: to see a little bit of that transition, just to
Speaker 1: see how it actually looks like and how the running
Speaker 1: game kind of how he changes when you just put
Speaker 1: polar as the lead, because I mean, it's hard to argue,
Speaker 1: it's hard to argue what he can do after seeing
Speaker 1: a game like the one we saw yesterday. The only
Speaker 1: thing you would worry about Pollard is when you played
Speaker 1: the Commanders, you didn't run for anything. That was Zeke
Speaker 1: and Pollard. Yeah, you know that's the only thing that's
Speaker 1: The eye test will tell you right now that you
Speaker 1: should play Pollard more. But you know, I think this
Speaker 1: running game is involving the thing I really appreciate. Remember
Speaker 1: how many times we'd watch games and then Pollard would
Speaker 1: come in in the third series and he'd get the
Speaker 1: one series and if it was good, he kept going.
Speaker 1: If it was bad, he was sitting on the sidelines,
Speaker 1: and then in the second half he'd get another one.
Speaker 1: I think they're doing a really good job of giving
Speaker 1: both of these guys opportunities. I think I think as
Speaker 1: you get to the second half, you're going to need
Speaker 1: both of these guys. But and I mean both of
Speaker 1: them in a way of Hey, if Pollard's getting fifteen
Speaker 1: and Zeke's getting fifteen, fine, whatever, whatever ratio it is, well,
Speaker 1: however you're winning the game, or you know, however you're
Speaker 1: having success, go with that. The eye test will tell you,
Speaker 1: the ie test will tell you, Hey, this guy is explosive.
Speaker 1: The eye test will tell you the other guy runs
Speaker 1: with a lot of toughness. The other guy gets carries
Speaker 1: or third down converters, you know, and gets three or
Speaker 1: four yards when it's really really tough. You know. But
Speaker 1: there's also that time when I remember the Commander's game
Speaker 1: where they don't run for anything, both of them, and
Speaker 1: that's Pollard included. There was a couple of them where
Speaker 1: it was some minus runs as well. So that's the
Speaker 1: thing that you know, I'm kind of like, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at that. I think they need to play both guys.
Speaker 1: I do. I think twenty seven carries, say on one guy,
Speaker 1: is a detriment for the next week and maybe for
Speaker 1: the next week after that. Fourteen and sixteen or fourteen
Speaker 1: and third, whatever that is for two guys, I think
Speaker 1: that's manageable. I think that's manageable for the season and
Speaker 1: how you want to run the football, you know. I
Speaker 1: think it's encouraging that there's been games where Pollard has
Speaker 1: been the back when it's the four minute offense and
Speaker 1: they're trying to kill a game. I think that tells
Speaker 1: you that he can do it. But I think you're
Speaker 1: going to need both these guys. I agree. I think
Speaker 1: I think one of the tricky parts of this is
Speaker 1: is the passing game. Because if if the running back
Speaker 1: is going to stay in there and block, you want
Speaker 1: Zeke and then that's nothing really against Pollard. He's not
Speaker 1: ze Zeke is tougher, bigger, stronger, and he has a
Speaker 1: nose for it. He's been doing it longer. Hey, he's
Speaker 1: better there. If that running back slips out of the
Speaker 1: backfield and you dump it off to him like that
Speaker 1: happened in the game yesterday, you want that guy to
Speaker 1: be Pollard out there in the open. So that's where
Speaker 1: I think the tricky part comes in. Yeah, Pollard had
Speaker 1: a blitz pick up where it was actually they missed
Speaker 1: a block on ninety three for the It was justin Jones,
Speaker 1: defensive lineman got free and Pollard was looking outside and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he just launches his body just
Speaker 1: to sacrifice himself. He knew it's like listen, I gotta help,
Speaker 1: and Dad gets the ball down the field the Schultz
Speaker 1: for a first down. But it was one of those
Speaker 1: times where you're like, you know, we're super mindful of
Speaker 1: Pollard and then you say, oh wait, look he did it.
Speaker 1: He actually he showed awareness and he saved a play.
Speaker 1: There is that the free play? Yeah, well it was
Speaker 1: not there. It was not the free play that the
Speaker 1: thirty yarder to Scholtz. No, No, this was it was
Speaker 1: a different It was a different throw. I think it
Speaker 1: was a different throw. Nick I got to go back.
Speaker 1: But I know I remember just him lunging back inside
Speaker 1: to to to help Dak throw the ball. What was
Speaker 1: his call that he said that the line that they
Speaker 1: said in the meeting that they were talking about yesterday
Speaker 1: that he said is if you if they make the call?
Speaker 1: Yeah he did. But see that's that's the thing about
Speaker 1: it is there's there's that question about is the is
Speaker 1: he physical enough to pick up? But there he didn't
Speaker 1: have to be physical enough. He just had to be aware, aware,
Speaker 1: and sometimes being aware and let them run over you
Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback. That'll slow him down just enough.
Speaker 1: If you just let him run over you, you're actually blocking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. So I think you just got to look
Speaker 1: at him. What it changes week by week depending on
Speaker 1: the opponent. You know, you got to look at what
Speaker 1: the defense are doing to you, because I do think
Speaker 1: there are times that Zeke is better going at it
Speaker 1: because of his body built, his tra as opposed to
Speaker 1: paulardt other occasions he's more the explosive one. So you
Speaker 1: found that Nick's right, it was a thirty yard play, yeah,
Speaker 1: because which was off side three? Yeah? Three? Yeah, they
Speaker 1: go to get off side to get three vertical up
Speaker 1: top and then also then twenty yeah, he gets just
Speaker 1: enough of that defender, so it's the ball gets out
Speaker 1: and you're right, Nick, it was the thirty yard pass
Speaker 1: play and that's that's that was the setup, and that
Speaker 1: was a huge play in the game. It's twenty eight,
Speaker 1: twenty three. It's the third nine, third nine nine. Now
Speaker 1: they got off side, so it was probably gonna be
Speaker 1: third and four. I didn't think from our viewpoint, I
Speaker 1: didn't think Charles had a prayer of catching that pass.
Speaker 1: And then just the way it looked, it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought he sailed it over it, but he made
Speaker 1: a nice catch. It kind of was Witten like, you know,
Speaker 1: down the seam in the middle of the field, but
Speaker 1: you know, to answer right there. And I think that
Speaker 1: goes back to what this offense and that's why I'm
Speaker 1: excited about what the offense did, was that they they
Speaker 1: needed a couple of answers. They need to come out
Speaker 1: and hit him in the mouth, which they did. Then
Speaker 1: a couple of times they had to answer. They showed
Speaker 1: if you get in one of these type of games,
Speaker 1: they can do that, and that that twenty eight twenty
Speaker 1: three to come back and score like that and then
Speaker 1: get the well dub and then the way they played
Speaker 1: the two point plays too, right, I mean because Tank
Speaker 1: sack you know, I mean he was a block. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you can't give it. You give
Speaker 1: up points there. It's a three point game right there.
Speaker 1: You keep it a touchdown game by Tank, you know,
Speaker 1: destroying the play. Yeah, the quarterback, I said that. I said,
Speaker 1: the fields had a lot of interesting plays in the game,
Speaker 1: and he's going to be really good quarterback. But his
Speaker 1: best play was getting up from that. Yeah, like he
Speaker 1: took one. Yeah, And sometimes an athletic quarterback can hurt you,
Speaker 1: you know, because sometimes, yeah, there's a lot of quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that can't jump over Mike and Parsons. So some would
Speaker 1: just say, you know what, I'm just gonna touch him.
Speaker 1: I can't do that. But the things one the things
Speaker 1: you always talked about as a quarterback is he is
Speaker 1: he football intelligent? Aware? Is he aware of football intelligence? Something? Yeah? Weird,
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Speaker 1: about the defensive side of the ball. They allowed two
Speaker 1: hundred and forty yards rushing. Yes, yeah, My question for you,
Speaker 1: how concerned are you with this rushing defense? They've had
Speaker 1: some issues earlier in the season, but you could also
Speaker 1: justified yesterday they were just playing a team that was
Speaker 1: dedicated to running the ball. That's what happens when you
Speaker 1: do that. How concerned are you today? I'm not that concerned.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this team Chicago, somebody hasn't gonna
Speaker 1: get a bonus if they lead the league in rushing
Speaker 1: over there's some US coach or whatever, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: they're doing it, and it's like, oh, down, we're gonna
Speaker 1: run this ball, like like they're not going to get
Speaker 1: out of the running game. That's fine, that's why they
Speaker 1: lead the league and rushing. I mean, what three or
Speaker 1: were they three and six? Three and five, five, three
Speaker 1: and five? I mean what three and five team leads
Speaker 1: the league in rushing? I mean that that's the one
Speaker 1: that doesn't trust their quarterback much. Well true, and one
Speaker 1: they should trust that guy, I think a little bit
Speaker 1: more than they do. He proved that he played pretty good.
Speaker 1: I don't know when we're going to see them again,
Speaker 1: don't you know. Who knows? You never know. I mean
Speaker 1: it won't be next year, it'll be it'll be a
Speaker 1: couple of years or whatever. He's gonna be way better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's good. He is gonna be good once he gets
Speaker 1: a little awareness, stops jumping people and and you know,
Speaker 1: but I also need some help to his receiver. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: Mooney's good. Mooney Mooney could help him, though. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll see this about their running game. This, this is
Speaker 1: what makes it difficult because of like we talk about
Speaker 1: the stress with the running quarterback, which you know, I
Speaker 1: mean scrambles and things like that. I mean, Tank had
Speaker 1: him three or four times. I felt like that, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Xadre probably two times where he
Speaker 1: had him and others had him and he's scrambling and
Speaker 1: he's gaining yards. That that's that's a problem. They're they're
Speaker 1: dropping back with the intent to pass and then he
Speaker 1: takes off running and now it's a It's basically a
Speaker 1: running play, is what it is. So the thing that
Speaker 1: teams are doing to the Cowboys in the running game
Speaker 1: and especially in the perimeter stuff. They've tried to shore
Speaker 1: up the middle with the linebackers and the defensive line.
Speaker 1: And by the way, your new defensive tackle didn't play bad.
Speaker 1: He did what exactly what he needed him to do.
Speaker 1: Now it doesn't it doesn't show when it happens on
Speaker 1: the outside. Teams have figured out they don't block you
Speaker 1: one on one. They know they can't block like a
Speaker 1: Parsons one on one. What they do is they shield him.
Speaker 1: They shield him, or they'll chop him, or they'll do
Speaker 1: stuff to where they affect how he plays. And it's
Speaker 1: much easier in a running game to down block, down, block,
Speaker 1: and then pull guys out. And they were able to
Speaker 1: do that several times. Some of the really good runs
Speaker 1: that they had were that the crack toss, I mean
Speaker 1: the quarterback power that they scored on no no crack
Speaker 1: there or no toss, crack crack, get lineman out, you know,
Speaker 1: the fourth and the fourth and one player. Derek I
Speaker 1: mentioned that they had a chance, Dallas had a chance
Speaker 1: to get off the field. They slant the front to
Speaker 1: the side of the of the run of the toss,
Speaker 1: they're in great shape, Diggs is unblocked on the edge.
Speaker 1: Diggs all of a sudden kind of goes uh, you know,
Speaker 1: one of those you know, you know that's what he did,
Speaker 1: and you know, and all of a sudden, you know, literally,
Speaker 1: if you have somebody screaming off that corner, Lea's cutting
Speaker 1: him down, it's Dallas's ball on a fourth down and
Speaker 1: now the drive's not going. They you know, they slant
Speaker 1: their front and then throws them off or they get
Speaker 1: crack crack and then pulls it gets the corner. I've
Speaker 1: said it before when you watch Dallas when they struggle,
Speaker 1: it's the edges get cracked or sealed. The next guy,
Speaker 1: linebacker gets sealed. And that linebacker could be Curse who's
Speaker 1: down there playing low, and so he's kind of having
Speaker 1: to fight it and you got an edge that's huh again,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's that's the issues. And just to
Speaker 1: make sure that that people understand what you're saying. Bout
Speaker 1: down block down, block, yeh, then pull. What happens basically,
Speaker 1: you got the two outside angle angle, Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: a tight end and you got a wide receiver. They're
Speaker 1: both blocking down. Some hit they'll hit the defensive end,
Speaker 1: they'll hit the safety, and then they'll pull the two
Speaker 1: offensive linemen behind them behind the outside right, and now
Speaker 1: you've got this situation where now those those defensive players
Speaker 1: have to fight through all this track get out to
Speaker 1: the running back. It's just it's hard. They ran They
Speaker 1: ran a toss early in the game that Brown played
Speaker 1: exactly how you're supposed to play it because Riley Reef,
Speaker 1: the big number seventy one, gets out and what does
Speaker 1: Brown do? He dives underneath. He dives underneath, and now
Speaker 1: Riley Reef can't block him, and now everybody's there to
Speaker 1: make the tackle because they had you muddy it up
Speaker 1: to you muddied it up. Yeah, Instead they're like, it's
Speaker 1: so easy to downblock it. That's what happens. They don't
Speaker 1: take Micah Parsons on head on and trying, you know, hooking,
Speaker 1: They just down block him. And what happened. Parsons started saying, uh,
Speaker 1: no more jump. He started just jumping around. He started
Speaker 1: just jumping, and they were they were missing him, but
Speaker 1: you know, and they were getting guys up. But that's
Speaker 1: what people are doing to you. They're they're forcing your
Speaker 1: edge to have to play their corner to half to play,
Speaker 1: you know, and there's some inside runs and stuff like
Speaker 1: that where, yeah, it happens, but where you give up
Speaker 1: your big plays or when down block down, block around
Speaker 1: and then a soft corner right there, and Hankins ain't
Speaker 1: gonna help you with that. No he can't get past
Speaker 1: the d Yeah, but no, the inside runs and stuff
Speaker 1: he took on double teams. Now, I'll say this about Clark.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a little rough for him in
Speaker 1: this first game, you know, but hell, he played. He
Speaker 1: played a ton. He was kind of like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to be here. I guess I'm supposed to be Yeah,
Speaker 1: some snaps. Yeah it was top. I mean, he had
Speaker 1: a couple of plays, a couple of tackles and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But you know, he's gonna have to get
Speaker 1: the feel for that stuff. He really is. But man,
Speaker 1: these teams have figured out if you're gonna play soft corner,
Speaker 1: soft edge, and they can down block you and take
Speaker 1: you out of that boom, they can run the football
Speaker 1: over there. I think that, you know, this is something
Speaker 1: we need to be talking about at some point about
Speaker 1: is there more to this game that you want to
Speaker 1: get to. I mean, I just think, you know, last year,
Speaker 1: Michael Parson is gonna win Rickie of the Year, but
Speaker 1: we're like, what about Defensive Player of the Year. Now,
Speaker 1: I think he has a really good chance to win
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. Maybe you should go higher
Speaker 1: than that, seriously, because he is the most valuable player
Speaker 1: on this football team. When he's off for four or
Speaker 1: five snaps, the Bears go right down the field. They're
Speaker 1: having to do everything to scheme against him, and all
Speaker 1: we can't block like this, we gotta do this and
Speaker 1: this and this. He affects this team, which affects the defense,
Speaker 1: which affects the offense. And this is a good football team.
Speaker 1: You have to be a good football team. So if
Speaker 1: they can get up in the mix and they keep
Speaker 1: playing like this, I think that it's time to start
Speaker 1: looking at maybe a defensive player. Being in the conversation
Speaker 1: for MVP, I really think that's how good he is.
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of the last one. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know Lawrence Taylor won it. Did Woodson was Woodson
Speaker 1: defensive player? They're a defensive back? Oh for the Packers? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That one year. I don't know. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: stolen that out there. But I mean the thing about
Speaker 1: you're right about Micah and but man, it's like they're
Speaker 1: they're they're going after his knees. Guys, they're like bringing
Speaker 1: guys commit and those guys are coming across the formation
Speaker 1: and they're cutting him and which is they're cutting his
Speaker 1: left leg and he's spinning out of that and stuff
Speaker 1: like I think is so crazy because defensive guys can't
Speaker 1: do that to offensive You talked about Brown, how these Yeah,
Speaker 1: if he would have just attacked his legs, yeah, they
Speaker 1: would call palty on that. Yeah, I know they're doing college.
Speaker 1: I think they're in the pro. I don't think you
Speaker 1: can just cut a guy in the move like that,
Speaker 1: but they on offense, he can do it to the
Speaker 1: inside the tackle box. One of those weird rules where
Speaker 1: the offense can do it. But if you can't hit
Speaker 1: the quarterback in the face, but you can cut the
Speaker 1: guys at that. You can't grab a ice mask. But
Speaker 1: if you're happening to be hitting the gay straight arm
Speaker 1: and you're hitting the spaces to seven cowboys at the half,
Speaker 1: if if Goldston doesn't hit him up there like that,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get a field golf that pick by digs
Speaker 1: thirty one seven and then it's that it's twenty eight seventeen.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell from the end zone copy. They went
Speaker 1: away from it quick. I mean, I was hoping it,
Speaker 1: but it looked like from the sidelines, it looked like
Speaker 1: you hit him in the head. Hit him in the head.
Speaker 1: Shorter quarterback, bigger defensive. I mean, you just gotta be
Speaker 1: by the way. It's unfair. We all know it's unfair,
Speaker 1: but it's just it's the plight of it. And I
Speaker 1: also think, I just think when it comes to defensive players,
Speaker 1: they gotta move the target lower. You gotta go for
Speaker 1: the mid section and target the mid section because that's
Speaker 1: not gonna move. But then you get then you hit
Speaker 1: low though, you get these officials that think you're hitting
Speaker 1: mid section and you're going low on a guy. But
Speaker 1: and they'll call that too in the mid section. I mean, like, well,
Speaker 1: I know, but the target is I understand, No, but
Speaker 1: I'm understand. But some of these officials think if you
Speaker 1: have a quarterback kind of goes down and you hit
Speaker 1: him in the midsection, well they're thinking they're going low
Speaker 1: on a guy. Huh. And I don't know he was
Speaker 1: holding on both teams in this game. By the way, too,
Speaker 1: just have the quarterback where the stupid belt and the flag. Yeah, god,
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor was the last defensive player okay eighty six, Okay,
Speaker 1: that long ago. The one before that was Alan Page
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one. Oh people, only two people, two
Speaker 1: defensive players. I was only one alive here that saw
Speaker 1: him win that. I was still just a thought from
Speaker 1: my pops is it's like baseball. You know, they have
Speaker 1: a Cy Young award, So that guy doesn't usually win MVP,
Speaker 1: you know, because we have an award for you, you know,
Speaker 1: defensive player. You're just give him that. They'd be happy
Speaker 1: and let's give it to somebody else and maybe it'll
Speaker 1: be he's an incredible player. Yeah, he's just you know,
Speaker 1: for being This team goes off their defense, and the
Speaker 1: defense is obviously you know, runs from everything through Micah.
Speaker 1: So I think it's something to be talking about. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you, guys, Jonas. We'll be back. I will be
Speaker 1: back tomorrow. These guys will be on. Makes you check
Speaker 1: all our shows tomorrow. It'll be interesting to hear some
Speaker 1: different opinions from some different matchings and pairings until then
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