Speaker 1: A Stantonian blast. Let's play ball. Welcome in everybody to
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Speaker 1: The King of sports books is be Joey p Joe
Speaker 1: pi Zepeda with me today, as always is the Welsh,
Speaker 1: and of course it's you. And today we're gonna recap
Speaker 1: what happened in the All Star Game. We're gonna look
Speaker 1: ahead to our rest of season ranks, our top twenty
Speaker 1: five starting pitchers. We're also gonna talk about maybe the
Speaker 1: top ten to fifteen who knows how many assets in
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball that we want on our fantasy teams
Speaker 1: for keeper leagues and or dynasty. Will dive into that.
Speaker 1: We'll also dive into some rest of season home run
Speaker 1: props that are out there too. And tomorrow's gonna be
Speaker 1: a fun show because Welsh. Tomorrow we're gonna take a
Speaker 1: heavy look at all the betting stuff still out there
Speaker 1: for the second half. And I know you're like me,
Speaker 1: that's an exciting thing. Now we're in the stretch run.
Speaker 1: We know who teams are, are we kind of a
Speaker 1: sense of who teams are not and also who might
Speaker 1: be buyers and sellers. So are you excited about the
Speaker 1: week of wagering we've got here before games kick up again.
Speaker 2: I am, I am, because if you like to wager
Speaker 2: at all, you've been a little devoid of all of
Speaker 2: the major fun. There's maybe a few things missing in
Speaker 2: your life, like all the bets in the world, and
Speaker 2: you're just hyper focused on one spot and you were
Speaker 2: forced to go nut soar, just go a little bit
Speaker 2: on that All Star game, which I don't believe featured
Speaker 2: a run or many hits after the fifth inning. So yes,
Speaker 2: I'm excited about the second half. I'm excited about finding
Speaker 2: some values too, because those are kind of gone, like
Speaker 2: the big guys that you and I have been jumping on,
Speaker 2: like show Hey Atani at MVP. Those are gone. So
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to re establish and see where you
Speaker 2: can get some values, whether it's to win or maybe
Speaker 2: even hopefully make a couple bucks on sites that pay
Speaker 2: you back like fan Duel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think for the Otani's don Julio's done.
Speaker 1: You can't you know, vote, you know can't vote. You
Speaker 1: should vote, you can vote, you can't. You can't bet
Speaker 1: on the Yankees or the Astros to win their divisions,
Speaker 1: But we'll do odds about the remaining divisions, also teams
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, not make the playoffs Tomorrow. Today's
Speaker 1: a little bit more fancy focus, tomorrow a little bit
Speaker 1: more wagering focus. So if you'd like to do both,
Speaker 1: this is the show for you, and we're going to
Speaker 1: be going straight through here. So let's kick things off
Speaker 1: here with the All Star Game. We have young Carlos
Speaker 1: Stanton taking on the MVP. I feel like the under
Speaker 1: with the the combination of so many relief pitchers every inning,
Speaker 1: with the strikeout rates, as you were saying, the lack
Speaker 1: of runs and hits and created runs, I feel like
Speaker 1: the under in the All Star Game is becoming like
Speaker 1: an automatic smash button. Do you feel the same.
Speaker 2: Way, Well, I mean I didn't yesterday. I was like
Speaker 2: seven and a half. I like the over at seven
Speaker 2: and a half with all of the relief pitchers coming
Speaker 2: on the back end. The NL two was kind of
Speaker 2: littered with even more relief guys. I mean I think
Speaker 2: Joe Mantiply came in and like the fifth or something like.
Speaker 1: That like that, Actually we Mantiply.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I know you're becoming You're right, it
Speaker 2: is becoming much much more. I wonder I haven't tracked
Speaker 2: the downturn of it, but I mean, it was seven
Speaker 2: and a half this year, and what's it going to
Speaker 2: be six next year? Like, well, probably starts to.
Speaker 1: Go to six. That's when you start to go O
Speaker 1: get with seven and a half. I still felt like
Speaker 1: I still feel like that that's a good under. You know.
Speaker 1: It's on Scotti Farros Show yesterday after dooneying we were
Speaker 1: talking about All Star Game and he's like, what do
Speaker 1: you what do you think about it?
Speaker 2: Joe?
Speaker 1: And I was like, look, I think, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's America League. I think it's the under,
Speaker 1: and I think you take a shot on somebody an MVP.
Speaker 1: You know, whoever hits a home run is gonna be
Speaker 1: MVP and your boy bucks in at home run. But
Speaker 1: Stanton was the guy. By the way, I love the
Speaker 1: h I love the All Star Game MVP award itself,
Speaker 1: that Crystal bad or where the heck is? I think
Speaker 1: I'd love to see Stanton hit a ball with it
Speaker 1: just for S's and g's. Is that does that make
Speaker 1: so weird?
Speaker 2: No? No, I actually want them to continue like going
Speaker 2: balls to the wall on that type of stuff like
Speaker 2: the home run derby chain. They should be doing cool,
Speaker 2: unique things. It gets players to want to come. I mean,
Speaker 2: whatever they got to do. I mean, at some point,
Speaker 2: don't be surprised if they start doing like some type
Speaker 2: of all star ringer or something for everybody. Whatever you
Speaker 2: got to do to get these players excited to want
Speaker 2: to win, to get out there and to compete.
Speaker 1: And Julio made more money in the home run Derby
Speaker 1: I saw than he's going to make all season.
Speaker 2: So that's a one hundred and seven hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars for second place. He was making seven hundred
Speaker 2: thousand as a major leaguer this year.
Speaker 1: Very very touching moment. By the way. Also, did you
Speaker 1: see the Clayton Kershaw with the young kid whose granddad
Speaker 1: passed away but wanted to meet Clayton Kershaw before he died. Oh,
Speaker 1: my goodness, you're not crying. I'm crying. It's a lot.
Speaker 1: Kershaw did a nice job. There was very nice, so good.
Speaker 2: Kirshaw is really good about all of that stuff. Like
Speaker 2: he's very very tuned into kids. I've been over at Dodgers.
Speaker 1: Unlike Mike Mayor. Could you imagine Mike Mahyor is like, hey,
Speaker 1: my granddad wanted to meet you, Mike Mayor before he
Speaker 1: died of cancer. Mike Maher is like, kid, I don't
Speaker 1: have time for this, Like we're all gonna die, kid, Well,
Speaker 1: it looks like we missed our opportunity. That would be
Speaker 1: Mike Mahyor like he'd be like, well, what am I
Speaker 1: good was supposed to do it?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do about it? I feel
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: You know. One of my biggest regrets of of all
Speaker 2: the things with athletes, is the picture I have a
Speaker 2: picture with Clayton Kershaw because I've I t l famously
Speaker 2: told the story. I don't need to tell it here,
Speaker 2: but where I met him at a Whole Foods and
Speaker 2: my pictures like blurry because I was trying to do
Speaker 2: it quick because I felt bad about doing it. I
Speaker 2: was like this, I read how often are you going
Speaker 2: to be around Clayton Kersher? I take it and he
Speaker 2: couldn't have been nicer. He could not have been nicer
Speaker 2: about it. But I got a blurry picture with the
Speaker 2: cy young winner.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well there you go. That's that's something you
Speaker 1: can always take with you Cosse struck out the side
Speaker 1: for the All Star Game. Alec Manoa very entertaining too
Speaker 1: on the microphone yesterday. God, I love that Hoss, I do.
Speaker 1: I Just why am I such a sucker for the
Speaker 1: Big Hoss pictures? I don't know, just love that guy.
Speaker 1: He's a good time interest stuff.
Speaker 2: By the way, Oh it's my favorite thing. But interesting
Speaker 2: you keep me in Bogman around You're like, Oh, I
Speaker 2: love these Big Hoss pictures. They're a connection little Hoss
Speaker 2: so I look up to. I've been saying this for
Speaker 2: a while. I don't know when baseball is going to
Speaker 2: take like the forefront and wanting to really really improve
Speaker 2: the game. You know, they do so many things to
Speaker 2: hurt themselves. As small as some of this stuff is,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: I love custom bats like the bat that Julio under so,
Speaker 3: I honestly think it would be such a huge improvement
Speaker 3: if they even allowed something like that in games to
Speaker 3: start having.
Speaker 2: But I love the micd up. I think that's a
Speaker 2: way to get more personal with players. I think people
Speaker 2: lack connections sometimes. I think every single.
Speaker 1: Television like, I don't get what's the problem, but they.
Speaker 2: Don't let them do the they don't let them go
Speaker 2: crazy with cleats. They have two. That's the stuff you do, like,
Speaker 2: let let the guys bat flip let there be really
Speaker 2: cool custom things that kids can see and get excited about.
Speaker 2: Whether it's cleats, whether it's bats. Get these guys miked
Speaker 2: up in every single game that could be televised. I
Speaker 2: think it's the best thing to do. I want to
Speaker 2: see more of it. I want to see more of
Speaker 2: the things that we love in the personality that moment
Speaker 2: with with David Ortiz where David Ortiz is like, how
Speaker 2: would you pitch me? And he starts to tell alec
Speaker 2: Mino starts to go through it, and then Pobby's like,
Speaker 2: get out of here. He's like and he just walks off.
Speaker 2: He's like, you're not gonna strike me out. Like those
Speaker 2: type of things like that is all really really good
Speaker 2: for baseball. It's just a shame that we only celebrate
Speaker 2: it in a all starter or championship type of way.
Speaker 2: We should do it all the time.
Speaker 1: Well, and not everybody has got a personality. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: here's a lot of guys that are duller than dirt.
Speaker 1: You know that you just don't want to you know
Speaker 1: put that.
Speaker 2: Well, we're not gonna make those guys up. We don't
Speaker 2: have to worry about that. For every one of those guys,
Speaker 2: there's a Mookie bets, you know, right, like we don't.
Speaker 1: I remember back in the day, my favorite micd up
Speaker 1: thing ever was Jason Kipness when he was still playing
Speaker 1: on the Cleveland Indians at the time, singing Adele playing
Speaker 1: second base, and he was like, yep, I'm singing Adele
Speaker 1: right now. He was in spring training ahead of my
Speaker 1: dump and he was just singing Adell songs. That was
Speaker 1: my favorite thing ever.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm surprised the MLB network hasn't, or just
Speaker 2: MLB in general, it hasn't created some type of like
Speaker 2: special miked up feed. I mean, be a little dicey,
Speaker 2: but I'd like to see some of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's some really funny things that the
Speaker 1: chat to. By the way, about Mike Mayor being mean
Speaker 1: to some kid, I think it's just great, but it's
Speaker 1: not here to defend him.
Speaker 2: What a gimmick he gets to have and people will.
Speaker 1: Know full heel Mike Mayor. The MLB and MLBPA is
Speaker 1: discussing the rule changes for next year. They have forty
Speaker 1: five days to agree upon. The big giant bas is
Speaker 1: the pitch clock. All that stuff. Now, I went to
Speaker 1: the game where the pitchclock in summer set. When I
Speaker 1: saw a Volpie play a couple weeks ago, I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was great, kept the game moving, and there we
Speaker 1: was a crap ton of runs. I think there were
Speaker 1: sixteen runs in that game and it's still finished under
Speaker 1: three hours. And I'm like, tell you, this is great.
Speaker 1: I know, I know.
Speaker 2: I've been seeing the pitchclock for quite some time. They've
Speaker 2: done it in the AFL, they've done it at the
Speaker 2: lower level.
Speaker 1: What a big deal, Like, it's just well when a
Speaker 1: guy shows down.
Speaker 2: This is what people get pissed off about, though, is
Speaker 2: when when the guys don't move it along and it
Speaker 2: throws a ball on the count and everyone's like what
Speaker 2: And you get fans pissed off because a guy is,
Speaker 2: you know, slowing down the game or whatever. I think
Speaker 2: it's great. I think it's fine. I think I've seen
Speaker 2: players adjust to it perfect. Okay, it's very very little
Speaker 2: impact on the game outside of speeding it up.
Speaker 1: Agreed, all right, also impactful. Drew Jones agrees to an
Speaker 1: eight point nine eight point one night. It's using million
Speaker 1: dollar bonus. Not too bad for mister Jones and me
Speaker 1: gonna be big star as well. She can be.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm keeping my eyes open in the bushes or
Speaker 2: when Drew Jones comes here to Phoenix. I don't know
Speaker 2: when exactly it's going to be. It could be Thursday.
Speaker 2: Complex Level starts back up tomorrow that I do think
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be in a game at this moment, though
Speaker 2: we would say it's been quite a few days in between.
Speaker 2: But they got Thursday, Friday, Saturday. I think next week
Speaker 2: is a real high possibility. I'm gonna watch though, because
Speaker 2: he could pop up and be a round camp and
Speaker 2: then he probably is gonna start getting in games. My
Speaker 2: assumption would be starting next week as easy as it goes.
Speaker 2: But these guys, you know what they always like to do.
Speaker 2: They like to bring the guys in, like parade them
Speaker 2: around town a little bit at a home game, and
Speaker 2: I don't know why they do that whole thing before
Speaker 2: they play. But him signing first is a huge, huge win,
Speaker 2: and I will be out, I can promise you if
Speaker 2: I know the day of the debut, as long as
Speaker 2: it's not this Saturday late. I will be at Salt
Speaker 2: River Fields and I will be there for his debut,
Speaker 2: and I will be there for quite a few games
Speaker 2: to watch Drew Jones as a diamondback.
Speaker 1: He's quite a talent. The question is, are we gonna
Speaker 1: see the talent of Jacob de Gram again? Simulated game
Speaker 1: moved to Thursday. He was apparently there being overly cautious
Speaker 1: with the shoulder soreness or whatever is going on here.
Speaker 1: Oh well, shall we get to see Jaob bagram pitcheon
Speaker 1: ending this year?
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not gonna do this. Wow, I can't. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna fall for this. I'm not gonna have this.
Speaker 2: I will not have this blasphemy. We've had enough. I've
Speaker 2: had enough of the injury thing where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: this guy could come back, and then he gets I
Speaker 2: can't be wrong about this one. I can't have the
Speaker 2: injury bug bite me on this one. He will be fine.
Speaker 2: They were being overly cautious. The big big marker here
Speaker 2: is is if he has this last little you know,
Speaker 2: start on Thursday, which they moved it to Thursday, as
Speaker 2: long as everything is okay and as long as he's
Speaker 2: not feeling any any more, soreness. He should go out
Speaker 2: have his last throw, and then we would get him
Speaker 2: most likely next week. If he doesn't do the Thursday one,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a little bit more worry because there's
Speaker 2: only so much more we can do with this. But
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this is a very isolated situation and
Speaker 2: not absolutely panic and freak out on all my fantasy teams.
Speaker 1: And Walkee brings up a goo Pointyo should have traded
Speaker 1: him when they said he'd be back. Yeah, But the
Speaker 1: problem is, like I don't know what you can get
Speaker 1: for de Grom at this point, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: the market value for him is just all over the place,
Speaker 1: depending on this very eye of the beholder. I just
Speaker 1: wish the Mets would start to lie to me at
Speaker 1: this point, like just say he had a stomach flu
Speaker 1: or something and they pushed it back. I don't I
Speaker 1: would have nice, I just just lie to me, don't.
Speaker 1: I don't care, I don't. This is the one circumstance
Speaker 1: where I don't want the truth anymore about Jacob Grom
Speaker 1: because the truth is just depressing.
Speaker 2: The smart fantasy play. We can kind of like make
Speaker 2: this an overarching thing, like what Wonk's saying, the smart
Speaker 2: fantasy play is take these guys who have had some
Speaker 2: type of injury or you know, these super hype pushed
Speaker 2: up prospects. Anytime there is buzz around a player, and
Speaker 2: if your risk averse, one of the best things to
Speaker 2: possibly do is just go out and make the trade
Speaker 2: and get what you can. Maybe you win, maybe you lose,
Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, like you know,
Speaker 2: maybe you win in that they get hurt and you've
Speaker 2: got a bunch of assets. Maybe you lose in that
Speaker 2: they you know, come back and are really good. But
Speaker 2: either way you've minimize that win and loss. In this case,
Speaker 2: for me, this is just one I just don't agree.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have done. I would take the risk. I
Speaker 2: don't think what you can acquire for Jacob to grom
Speaker 2: is I mean, I could be wrong. If someone would,
Speaker 2: you know, sell you the moon. I just don't think
Speaker 2: what you can get is worth giving up the risk
Speaker 2: of the potential number.
Speaker 1: Jacob being healthy. Is it worth trading him for Sean Manaiah.
Speaker 2: Not even remotely close. In my mind, I think that
Speaker 2: risk and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, I'll take that
Speaker 2: because GM I mean even projections, which you know are
Speaker 2: gonna want to be a little bit stabilized, are incredibly
Speaker 2: aggressive on the back half of the year for Jacob
Speaker 2: de Grom. Looking over at the Bat, you can go
Speaker 2: take a look at Ariol's ATC. They're aggressive on maybe
Speaker 2: his a little bit less, but the Bat is very
Speaker 2: aggressive on Jacob d Grom rest of the season. And
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with that. And you know what, if anything,
Speaker 2: maybe I take this approach. I'm getting a tiny bit
Speaker 2: of a value. Maybe you have an owner that's absolutely gone,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't do this. This is gonna
Speaker 2: be bad. Maybe I'm poking around, but I sure do
Speaker 2: want to see what happens on Thursday, maybe before.
Speaker 1: Any Lance mccolors. Also, by the way, Lance mccolor sighting
Speaker 1: Lily in his rehab assignment on Friday. I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: this one interesting because there's no room at the end
Speaker 1: anymore from the Colors in my opinion. So if you're
Speaker 1: looking at this rotation, you've got Verlander, he's pretty good.
Speaker 1: He ain't coming out. I know, You've got fran ber Valdez,
Speaker 1: You've got Garcia, You've had Oderezi come back, You've had
Speaker 1: Christian Xavier be excellent up until these last few starts.
Speaker 2: Or easy, he's easy to move out of that rotation from.
Speaker 1: The guy who's gonna pitch out of the bullpen.
Speaker 2: Well, well, you know what, here would be my one argument,
Speaker 2: with the amount of injuries that McCullers has had, why
Speaker 2: not put him in the bullpen for the rest of.
Speaker 1: The Well, I think that's what you're gonna see. I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna see mccullors and Christian Haavey are in
Speaker 1: the bullpen. And I think that is the reason why
Speaker 1: on tomorrow show, I'm going to be very bulsh about
Speaker 1: the Houston Astros getting to the World Series, because I
Speaker 1: think there's very few teams that are gonna be able
Speaker 1: to throw out those kind of arms. After throwing at
Speaker 1: Justin Verlander at you like, that's that's tough, man.
Speaker 2: I gotta agree with you on that too, especially if
Speaker 2: they can just maybe go get a little bit more
Speaker 2: thump in that lineup. Maybe there's a first basement that's
Speaker 2: out there available you get a tiny bit more thump
Speaker 2: to add to it with what is already. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you've put a five man rotation, there's much better.
Speaker 2: But if you lock them down into like the three
Speaker 2: spot and you got you know, Verlander and Framber and
Speaker 2: maybe it's Luis Garcia and then you're throwing out bullpens
Speaker 2: of you know, McCullers to Javier to Presley, they're gonna
Speaker 2: be really, really tough to be. They're a really good
Speaker 2: bet on the back half of it this year for sure,
Speaker 2: unfortunately for us.
Speaker 1: And they got an easy schedule too, Like I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it's always you can never have too much starting pitching.
Speaker 1: But I also wonder if mccolor's at this point is
Speaker 1: more a headache than he's worth. Like I wonder if
Speaker 1: he becomes a trade chip, like he comes back and
Speaker 1: then look good for a week and then you you know,
Speaker 1: it is something else.
Speaker 2: If he's one of those guys that's like mindesty with
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Royals where they're just like, you know, hey,
Speaker 2: we love him. But that is the perfect sat analogy,
Speaker 2: like we can't count on him, Like we can't count
Speaker 2: on him. I don't think they can. And that's why
Speaker 2: that's a guy that you can throw in the bullpen,
Speaker 2: get you two strong innings. Maybe be a back half guy,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you piggyback like a Luis Garcia, and.
Speaker 1: Or maybe he's maybe he's a reliever like his daddy is.
Speaker 1: Daddy was a heck of a reliever for many years.
Speaker 1: Daddy braves, Yeah, Daddy and mccullors, I like this.
Speaker 2: Rizzi is a this idea right here, Josh Bell to Houston,
Speaker 2: that's the type of thing I'm talking about, Houston, go
Speaker 2: and get a bat like that and put in I
Speaker 2: like that scenario.
Speaker 1: That would definitely help both sides there. All right, let's
Speaker 1: talk about the top twenty five starting pitchers we have
Speaker 1: rest of season now, mine skewed. I have Otani as
Speaker 1: the number one overall player rest of season because if
Speaker 1: you have him as a pitcher and a hitter, how
Speaker 1: is he not the number one overall player? He is.
Speaker 1: So you'll see my ranks have Altani first, then a
Speaker 1: starting pitcher because I can't undo that they connect to
Speaker 1: each other. But rest of season, Welsh, I've got Garret
Speaker 1: Cole Verlander, Corbyn Burns, al Contra, Shane McClanahan, then Scherzer,
Speaker 1: Musgrove Woodruff, Max Fried, Kevin Gossman. So that's like the well,
Speaker 1: Otani's in that mix too. So Otani I believe is
Speaker 1: a pitcher. I had him right around the right. I
Speaker 1: think I had him at seven or eight. I actually
Speaker 1: might have been nine now that I'm looking at it.
Speaker 1: So those are basically the top ten when you throw
Speaker 1: Atani in there, who are your top ten guys rest
Speaker 1: of season?
Speaker 3: There?
Speaker 2: And I also tear them out on my ranks over
Speaker 2: it in this league. But I've got McClanahan at number one.
Speaker 2: I made that push quite a while ago. McClanahan number one.
Speaker 1: So you're not concerned at all about the second half
Speaker 1: fade at all. See that's the thing for me. I
Speaker 1: keep coming back to the second half fade of McClanahan
Speaker 1: as a distinct possibility. But you don't seem to a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't seem to be worried about that.
Speaker 2: Why well, I mean, of qualified highest K percentage, I
Speaker 2: don't see anything at this current moment outside of you
Speaker 2: could argue maybe any I don't know, I don't want
Speaker 2: to say shut shutdowns, not the word I'm trying to say,
Speaker 2: but like a management you on the back half.
Speaker 1: And maybe unsustainable ridiculously good numbers like that combination I
Speaker 1: think is a little scary. That's why I have down five, not.
Speaker 2: And to be fair, like got like Garrett Cole. Going
Speaker 2: back to the projections, Garrett Cole has the most projected
Speaker 2: strikeouts in the second half of this year according to
Speaker 2: the bat which is a big number, which could put
Speaker 2: him at the top. But my point when I said
Speaker 2: tears is he's a part of a tier, so you
Speaker 2: could move them around. I have a plan to hand
Speaker 2: at number one because I think he's been so dominant
Speaker 2: and he hasn't really shown any true signs of coming back.
Speaker 2: Number one strikeout picture. I love me some strikeouts, but
Speaker 2: I've got him, I've got Burns, and I've got coal,
Speaker 2: and that's an interchangeable tier in my eye.
Speaker 1: So I agree with that. I agree they are the three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have says my three as well. I got Cole,
Speaker 1: Burns Verlander as well, but I have a cold Verlander
Speaker 1: Burns right now.
Speaker 2: And I'm not one hundred percent concerned with Like, if
Speaker 2: you want to argue Cole is number one, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to disagree with you because at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, like, you're not trading one for one of
Speaker 2: those guys. And if I guess all it comes down
Speaker 2: to is if you were, let's say, going to do
Speaker 2: like a trade package, and you could acquire either Coal
Speaker 2: or McClanahan at the same cost. Then my valuation, you know,
Speaker 2: I probably would still leave McClanahan, though I'm with Cole. Four.
Speaker 2: I got Sandie o Contra five, I've got show Heyo
Speaker 2: Tani must grow Verlander, Max Schers, You're at eight, and
Speaker 2: I did make I put Jacob de Gram tentatively down
Speaker 2: at nine. With Dylan C said, I've.
Speaker 1: Got da Gram at twenty two until he gets on
Speaker 1: the mount.
Speaker 2: So we're on the other side of this.
Speaker 1: On the other side, nine is correct, But to me
Speaker 1: it's twenty two because even if he goes out there
Speaker 1: rest of the season, it makes three starts and then
Speaker 1: he gets hurt again. That's what I'm building into the ranking.
Speaker 1: I'm building in injured again because I think I have
Speaker 1: to at this point with Jacob, I think it's it
Speaker 1: would be somehow I would be doing a disservice to
Speaker 1: the audience if I didn't build that into the ranking
Speaker 1: rest of the season of him, and I think it sucks.
Speaker 1: I hate doing it. I feel like it's a fact
Speaker 1: of life at this work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't feel like it's a disservice
Speaker 2: because if he is out there and plays, you are
Speaker 2: going to see wildly under ranked parts for him, and
Speaker 2: he is going to insanely outperform. If he plays you
Speaker 2: at twenty two and me at nine is too low.
Speaker 2: If he plays the entire second half. The only marker
Speaker 2: we have right now is he missed obviously the first
Speaker 2: half and there's a little bit of shoulder soreness, and
Speaker 2: that is something that should make us hesitate. I moved
Speaker 2: it back before we started this because of the shoulder,
Speaker 2: but I don't again you say it's a disservice. I don't.
Speaker 2: You should know the implied risk. The implied risk is
Speaker 2: both sides. What's the biggest risk he gets hurt again,
Speaker 2: you lose him for the rest of the year, and
Speaker 2: we're all banging our heads against the table. What's the upside?
Speaker 2: He's the number one pitcher the back half of the
Speaker 2: year who was in minor league, starts throwing one hundred
Speaker 2: plus coming off of this injury, so he is tough.
Speaker 2: I think he's the most difficult of all of these
Speaker 2: to manage. And whatever side you want to be on,
Speaker 2: that's totally okay. I'm jumping in front because I am
Speaker 2: just way less risk averse. I play on the edge.
Speaker 2: I put my foot over the edge of the cliff
Speaker 2: a lot more than Joe or Wonky or anybody does.
Speaker 1: Here you go, that's a good conversation. All right, Let's
Speaker 1: go to the rest of your tiers here too, because
Speaker 1: after this you have Dylan Sees, Kevin Gossman, Aaron Nola Manoa,
Speaker 1: Wheeler Kershaw, Gielito Woodruff, Rodin Rodand's a little lower for you,
Speaker 1: which is interesting in Bieber. Why is Rodond so much lower?
Speaker 1: Is that just because injury history?
Speaker 2: Injury history, well, a little bit of injury history. There
Speaker 2: was some early inconsistency. He's been awesome as of recent
Speaker 2: The strikeouts have been there as well. He's a little
Speaker 2: bit walk especially if you look at like some of
Speaker 2: the top guys in performance. So you know San die
Speaker 2: al Contra rocking a two walk per nine. You got
Speaker 2: this huge, huge barrage of guys too, by the way,
Speaker 2: between like Nola, Freed, McClanahan, that are all those sub
Speaker 2: two walks. He's an over three.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: The two top guys, the two top pitchers on this
Speaker 2: list that have an over three walk per nine are
Speaker 2: Dylan ceason him and that worries me as far as
Speaker 2: consistency goes just a tiny bit. I guess it's one
Speaker 2: of those things where it's like, I don't realize I
Speaker 2: hate him as much as like my rank does when
Speaker 2: I do it at the end of the day. But
Speaker 2: this is just once I put it out, I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess I do have him a little bit lower.
Speaker 2: I'd moved a couple I have free.
Speaker 1: You've got him at twenty five. I got him at ten.
Speaker 1: That's a big difference.
Speaker 2: That's a bit. I mean, he's had a solid season.
Speaker 2: I just think it's continuously performing on the backup of
Speaker 2: the year. It's low strikeouts, I mean the under nine
Speaker 2: k per nine, which is something that's a little bit
Speaker 2: of a worry, a really really low home run total
Speaker 2: that I think could pop just a tiny bit. And
Speaker 2: he's got one of the few a lot of these
Speaker 2: guys you're gonna see with some inflated x fips. He's
Speaker 2: just another one of those. It's an over three x
Speaker 2: FIP from his two eras. So I don't know. I
Speaker 2: think there's some potential implied push back on the back
Speaker 2: half of this year. But again, this is one of
Speaker 2: those things where it's like I pushed him down, probably
Speaker 2: because I don't I pushed him down, by the way,
Speaker 2: He's in a tier of guys that are up from
Speaker 2: twenty to twenty five. It's a lack of strikeouts. I'm
Speaker 2: still a really good pitcher. I just think I'm a
Speaker 2: little bit off. Wonky has him at seventeen. I think
Speaker 2: I think I'm kind of close, but I guess so're
Speaker 2: just between us. I'm the lower ish man on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. The biggest riser I have is Jonathan
Speaker 1: Gray at twenty six. Overall, he likes strikeouts.
Speaker 2: That dude, that's a really big move for the second
Speaker 2: half of the year. You don't have any concerns with
Speaker 2: just the inconsistency of.
Speaker 1: The Roger concerns. But you know what, I watched them
Speaker 1: pitch and I just like what I'm seeing and I
Speaker 1: was waiting for this to happen. I felt like the
Speaker 1: early season, with all the injuries and the stop and
Speaker 1: start for him, he just never got into a groove.
Speaker 1: And I feel like he's getting to a groove and
Speaker 1: I think mentally for him, that's the biggest thing, Like
Speaker 1: he needs to mentally break into a confident kind of place,
Speaker 1: and if he does, I think we're gonna see the
Speaker 1: guy who was selected number two overall and how good
Speaker 1: of a pitcher he could. Because I was always in
Speaker 1: fine of John Gray, So this is very exciting looking
Speaker 1: at the overall ranks too.
Speaker 2: Real quick, cold, I want to actually ask you, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I didn't know if you were going to move out
Speaker 2: to this or whatnot. Talk to me real quick about Peralta.
Speaker 2: You threw Peralta back on this list. We obviously have
Speaker 2: questions on it. I'm just curious about that because, like,
Speaker 2: you've got major injuries there and you shot him as
Speaker 2: a top twenty five starting pittures is so.
Speaker 1: Major healthy and all the reports have been good, so
Speaker 1: he's working his way back. So I'm at twenty five,
Speaker 1: So like twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, I got Peralta,
Speaker 1: John Gray, Manaia, and Chris Bassett. Like that's the grouping
Speaker 1: of pictures right there where I like all those guys.
Speaker 1: I feel good about them. But the upside, like you said,
Speaker 1: the upside of the Grom, the upside of Peralta for me, Like, OK,
Speaker 1: last year, how good he was this year? After those
Speaker 1: first shaky starter. Two he was so good, and then
Speaker 1: the injury came unfortunately, so fingers crossed and we're not
Speaker 1: worrying about innings anymore. Overall players again, if Otani is
Speaker 1: a hitter and a pitcher, he's number one. I have
Speaker 1: Soto to Josey Ramirez, three, Judge a Kunya Alvarez. Julio
Speaker 1: has made it all the way up to seven for
Speaker 1: me because I am in love with Julio, you guys,
Speaker 1: and I don't care who knows. Raphael Devers bets Cole.
Speaker 1: Then you have the Verlander, Turner, Burns, the pitchers and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I have Lad all the way at sixteen.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have McClanahan rest of the season than Flat.
Speaker 1: Is that weird?
Speaker 2: Hmmm, I don't know, it's not weird. It's just who
Speaker 2: did you say, who'd you say you rather.
Speaker 1: Have than Flaid McClanahan.
Speaker 2: Well, no, not having mcclanahan's not weird. But you haven't
Speaker 2: done at sixty. What's like a hitter that you have?
Speaker 1: Well, the next one is now. I mean the closest
Speaker 1: hitter is Trey Turner at twelve, I have, and then
Speaker 1: Lad at sixteen. Then there in between I think that
Speaker 1: feels right. It's gonna show me a little bit right now,
Speaker 1: Lad's in that, like, okay, let's let's show it. I'm
Speaker 1: always low on Trey Turner. Everybody knows this. It's yeah.
Speaker 2: I looked at your stuff. I was like, you're a
Speaker 2: little bit low.
Speaker 1: That's always me. That just he doesn't do it for me.
Speaker 2: I am quite a bit higher. I didn't. I don't
Speaker 2: have an overall to go through though. I was looking
Speaker 2: through my top ten.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe tomorrow. We're short on time anyway, maybe tomorrow
Speaker 1: will do your dynasty top ten or something like that.
Speaker 2: Oh, either one. I have a dynasty one all set
Speaker 2: up on overall. My positional ranks I do are my
Speaker 2: rest of season ranks are all positional, not necessarily overall.
Speaker 2: But one of the things I noticed is I was
Speaker 2: going to try to do this beforehand I put Turner in.
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, you and I are just astronomically
Speaker 2: different than Turner. I will say just I might.
Speaker 1: Have to revisit it, but I mean I'm always like this.
Speaker 1: I'm true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now I am with you. On the Julio front,
Speaker 2: I have him as the number two outfielder or number
Speaker 2: four outfielder rest of season, and you and I share
Speaker 2: a whole lot of these. I don't necessarily share the
Speaker 2: really really high one Soto front with everything that's going
Speaker 2: on with him, but I agree on the Alvarez, the
Speaker 2: Julio Rodriguez front. It's just Turner I think belongs in there.
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Speaker 1: Rest of season, we have some home run leader things.
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge is at minus one ninety five to lead
Speaker 1: the league in home runs, Kyle Schwarber at plus three fifty,
Speaker 1: Austin Riley is at plus fifteen hundred, which I thought
Speaker 1: was fascinating. Pete Alonzo at twenty to one trout and
Speaker 1: Stanton at twenty five. But I thought that the Alonzo
Speaker 1: twenty to one was fascinating number because we all know
Speaker 1: the polar Bear can go on a run. Austin Riley
Speaker 1: kind of interesting, could sneak in there because I feel
Speaker 1: like Judge is going, look, can't make money on Judge,
Speaker 1: so if you want to bet this, you gotta pick
Speaker 1: somebody else.
Speaker 2: Riley is interesting because he's close. The problem with Alonzo
Speaker 2: is he's nine off right now, So if you're gonna
Speaker 2: think you're done, you know, if you're if what was it?
Speaker 2: We were just looking at this the other day. I
Speaker 2: think it's eighteen homers projected second half almost in every
Speaker 2: single projection, sit eighteen to nineteen homers for Judge. So
Speaker 2: if you are already nine off, you would have to
Speaker 2: be looking. And let's say he comes back just a
Speaker 2: tiny bit, it's fifteen. You would have to get like
Speaker 2: twenty five home or second half for Alonzos. I don't
Speaker 2: like that one The Riley one is interesting. I don't
Speaker 2: view him quite as the same bopper, but he is
Speaker 2: six off from Judge. Schwarber has twenty nine to Judge's
Speaker 2: thirty three. That's probably Alvarez time.
Speaker 1: But like, if there's a guy who can go on
Speaker 1: a run, it's Alvarez, you know, Alvarez? Yeah, five bucks
Speaker 1: on this. Speaking of which, there's some individual props too.
Speaker 1: These are from FanDuel. You have Aaron Judge over under
Speaker 1: forty nine and a half home runs minus one ten
Speaker 1: is the juice you want to go over or under
Speaker 1: the forty nine and.
Speaker 2: A half absolutely smashing that over.
Speaker 1: Here's another one thirty seven.
Speaker 2: Who has that one? I'm gonna go bet that one.
Speaker 1: We're dandel right now.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go bet that one when we're done with this.
Speaker 1: For Jordan Alvarez or or Don Alvarez. How do we
Speaker 1: say it now?
Speaker 2: Because I'm old, Listen, it's it's supposed to be said
Speaker 2: like a Jordan, but nobody cares that it's that, and
Speaker 2: every human being says Jordan. I think this is turning
Speaker 2: into I haven't heard him talk on it. I think
Speaker 2: it's turning into an Eloy situation where like he doesn't care.
Speaker 2: Eloy is like it's technically Alloy, but I like Eloi
Speaker 2: as well. I don't mind. I hear nobody respect the
Speaker 2: Jordan Alvarez and everybody just wise it to hell. They're
Speaker 2: like Jordan Alvarez, So.
Speaker 1: They say, I've heard Alvarez number thirty seven and a half,
Speaker 1: also with the minus one ten over under on Alvarez.
Speaker 2: Ooh, thirty seven and a half. You're currently at twenty six,
Speaker 2: so you're saying eleven second half ones with a three
Speaker 2: forty seven.
Speaker 1: I like this one better than two.
Speaker 2: I do too. I like both of these. These would
Speaker 2: actually be too. I would jump on.
Speaker 1: This last one too. Mike Trout thirty three and a half.
Speaker 1: I like the under on this. What do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I just I don't think I touch it. This
Speaker 2: is one of the This is one of those things.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm uh I suck at because like I want
Speaker 2: to Pat GM, well, yeah, no, I understand you are.
Speaker 2: But it's like I look at a guy like Ja
Speaker 2: Gram and I'm like, holy crap, he's gonna be amazing
Speaker 2: when he's I want to play talent instead of holding
Speaker 2: back the same thing with Trout when he's there. I
Speaker 2: don't want to bet against him, but there's so much
Speaker 2: going on with him. I get your logic. I just
Speaker 2: won't mess with it because my brain would go, well,
Speaker 2: he's going to smash this type of stuff, but the injuries,
Speaker 2: inconsistency is how garbage that team is right now. I
Speaker 2: would pass on Trout. But I do like your logic.
Speaker 1: See I like the under. You're so negative and you're
Speaker 1: basically setting up my argument for the under. It's like yes, yes, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: I'm totally agree with it.
Speaker 1: I just I don't want to make money on the negative.
Speaker 1: That's nothing. When I see something that's overinflated, I go, yep,
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen.
Speaker 2: Well, he has twenty four and what's the number thirty three?
Speaker 2: So no, that is he would need ten homers on this.
Speaker 2: So you're betting nine homers or less.
Speaker 1: Fort I'm betting on the back of my trout not
Speaker 1: being a good thing.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm going It's not it's notts. Is it important?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Alvarez?
Speaker 1: Alvarez is my favorite of the three without I think
Speaker 1: it's smash over.
Speaker 2: I think I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 1: You could do that next month. I feel like you
Speaker 1: know you can hit eleven on runs in a month
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Dude, get ready, fandule account. Money's coming your way.
Speaker 1: Go. But again, go to bed MGM and make your
Speaker 1: bets to get the ten for two hundred. There you go,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's get it in tomorrow. Tomorrow, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be looking at the divisions. We're gonna be looking at
Speaker 1: the playoffs. We're gonna be looking at World Series odds
Speaker 1: and all that stuff as we preview. We have games
Speaker 1: coming back tomorrow, so there'll be a light schedule. I
Speaker 1: believe right, it's not a full schedule Thursday. It's light schedule.
Speaker 2: I think it's yeah. I think you're right about that.
Speaker 1: It's a light schedule. We want to ease our way back,
Speaker 1: take our time. But again, this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: great show because if you recall, this was the show
Speaker 1: last year where I went on the Bryce Harper rant
Speaker 1: at thirty to one for MVP and we're ran.
Speaker 2: Do you anticipate a rant tomorrow?
Speaker 1: I can't see a world where there isn't a rant.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gotta it's gonna it's gonna.
Speaker 2: Be about Jacob de gram is shut down tomorrow and
Speaker 2: doesn't do his start. I'm gonna rant here.
Speaker 1: Here's tomorrow's day. Jacob de Gram gets shut down. I
Speaker 1: come on the show, I'm miserable, and then Juan Soto
Speaker 1: gets traded to the Mets. Later that afternoon we do
Speaker 1: we do a special addition of leading off where I'm at.
Speaker 2: He gets traded to the San Diego Potters. By the way, Bagman,
Speaker 2: I do the livestream on our twitch twitch dot tv slash.
Speaker 2: In this league, we have a Tuesday episode we call
Speaker 2: Fantasy Predictor. I broke down and we could even do
Speaker 2: it here. I've actually got some new additions to it.
Speaker 2: I broke down five to one Soto trade scenarios on
Speaker 2: that show, and I did all the prospects. I think
Speaker 2: that can be involved, so you can go back and
Speaker 2: watch and see what I did. But I think there
Speaker 2: are some new alterations by some new information that's come
Speaker 2: out that I might have some new adjustments to a
Speaker 2: few of them, and I'd be glad to do that
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: All the adjustments. Check out it TL for all that
Speaker 1: stuff for the Patreon and in this league, good stuff
Speaker 1: with Bogman and Welsh. All right, that'll do it. For us,
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