1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: It made every headline in nearly every paper online and 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: hard copy in this country. A well trusted jailer, Vicky White, 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: arranges the bust out of her lover, accused killer, Casey White, 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: and the two go on the run. It all ended 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: in the death of Vicky White in the last hours. Bobshell, 6 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace and this is Crime Stories. Thank you 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nation and Serious 8 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: XM one eleven. Casey White has been charged with felony 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: murder in connection with the death of his lover, prison 10 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: guard Vicky White, after the pair spends eleven days on 11 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: the run after their Alabama prison break before police chase 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: them down, ending with a bullet in Vicky's head. Now 13 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: he the jailhouse lover, thirty eight year old Casey White 14 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: charged with felony murderer. Now does that mean he pull 15 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: the trigger? Absolutely not, So how's he charged with murder? 16 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: This is a text book a classic felony murder charge. 17 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: For instance, let's just say Jackie and I decided to 18 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: rob a bank. We agree up front, nobody's going to 19 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: get hurt. Then Jackie gets a wild hair and shoots 20 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: the bank teller dead. I'm standing there. What we head 21 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: out high, tell it out of there. But guess what, 22 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm in it just as deep as she is. I'm 23 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: charged with murder. Two. We both catch murder charges, but 24 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: from me, it's felony murder. Why felony murder? Very simply put, 25 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: it's when a death occurs during the commission of a felony, 26 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: that felony bank robbery and a death occurs. That's the 27 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: text book example a felony murder. In this case, the 28 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: accused killer, thirty eight year old Casey White, is in 29 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: the commission of a felony. He escaped from prison, making 30 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: himself a felony fugitive. That's a crime. And during that 31 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: felony crime a death occurred. Vicky White is killed. Take 32 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: a listen to our friends of w EVV Fox forty four. 33 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: The Alabama fugitive who, of course, was discovered and arrested 34 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: in Evansville, now facing a new murder charge. Casey White 35 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: was previously in jail on a murder charge stemming from 36 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: an incident back in twenty fifteen. He's now been charged 37 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: with the murder of Vicky White. That correction officer who 38 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: left the prison with him. The indictment says that because 39 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: Casey White was in the process of committing first degree escape, 40 00:02:48,639 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: he ultimately caused Vicky White's death. Angle. You are hearing 41 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: the last utterances of Vicky White on the run with 42 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: our jailhouse lover six foot nine. Uh. At the least 43 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: what happened after that is very well documented. Take a 44 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: list an hour cut thirty six our friends w EVV 45 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: Fox forty four. We can confirm that both Casey and 46 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: Vicky UM. One is in custody and one is in 47 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: the hospital. The female is actually in the hospital. UM. 48 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: We know that they are driving down here. Police pursue 49 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: about seventy miles per hour. You can see that car 50 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: flipped over Um in the ditch right now. We have 51 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: multiple agencies on scene, but apparently this was going for 52 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: a while. But we do know that he is in custody. 53 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: Let's get out and run. The chilling nine one one 54 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: audio reveals on the run prison guard Vicky White's last 55 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: words to her escape lover Casey White. Joining me an 56 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: all star panel to make sense of what we know 57 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: right now. James Sheldona, twenty seven years metro major case 58 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: at Sheldon Law Firm. Karen Start New York psychologist joining us. 59 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: Karen Start dot Com. Lenny DePaul, former Chief Inspector Commander 60 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: US Marshall Fugitive Task Force, doctor Tim Gallagher, medical Examiner, 61 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: State of Florida and host of the International Forensic Medicine 62 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: Death Investigation Conference. Brittany Harry joining us The Reporter, anchor 63 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: Way thirty one, That's Hunstville, and special guest joining US. 64 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: Sheriff Rick Singleton, the Lauderdale County elected sheriff. Sheriff, thank 65 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: you for being with us. I know that you're going 66 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: through a lot right now, from losing a trusted jailhouse 67 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: employee for many, many years, somebody that you respected, a 68 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: co worker, a friend, the betrayal of that, and now 69 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: her death. It's it's been an emotional roller coaster, you know. 70 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: I just don't really know how to explain it. I mean, 71 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, when we first got word that that they 72 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: had left, our initial feeling was that he had somehow, 73 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: you know, uh, overpowered her and taken her against her will. 74 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: And it wasn't too many hours into the investigation when 75 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: we realized that she had played a part in it. 76 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: We were still grasping at straws, hoping that maybe someone 77 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: from outside on his behalf had threatened her, threatened her family, 78 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: coerced her into helping him escape. But within a matter 79 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: of a few days it became obvious that that she 80 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: was very much involved in this plan, very much involved 81 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: in the plan, if not even the mastermind of the plan. Guys, 82 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: take a listen to our cut forty our friends at 83 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: w vt M thirteen. Vicky White has died tonight. Investigators 84 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: say she shot herself following a core chase with law enforcement. 85 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: It all came to an end today in Evansville, Indiana. 86 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: That's about a two hundred and twenty mile journey from 87 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: Lauderdale County. This is the press conference we've been talking 88 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: about all week that we wanted to call. After days 89 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: of searching across the country, Ky White and Vicky White 90 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: are in custody. The duo was hunted down in Indiana. 91 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: US Marshals received a tip about a car this catalanc 92 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: believed to be driven by Casey and Vicky and Evansville. 93 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: That led to a chase. The Marshall's Task Force officers 94 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: intercepted them, actually collided with them to try to end 95 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: the suit. After the crash, According to law enforcements. Vicky 96 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: shot herself and later died in the hospital. Casey peacefully surrendered. 97 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: We got a dangerous man off the street today. He 98 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: is never going to see the light of day again. 99 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 1: Did she shoot herself? That remains to be seen. And 100 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: also take a listen now to our cut thirty eight 101 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: we vv Fox. We're standing right next to the ditch 102 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: where this all went down, and you can actually still 103 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: see a part of that car left behind, perhaps a 104 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: headlight or maybe a tail light still left right there. 105 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: And we're learning it really didn't take long for the 106 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: car to end up flipped on its side in the ditch. 107 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: The pursuit really only lasting about two blocks from Saint 108 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: George Road to Birch Drive here. But what's most surprising 109 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: to law enforcement is the fact the fugitives we're still 110 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: in the Evansville area nearly a week after they were 111 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: caught on camera at a local car wash following a 112 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: brief police pursuit around four thirty Monday, Alabama convict Casey 113 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: White and corrections officer Vicky White crashing in a ditch 114 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: off US forty one in Evansville, straight out to Brittany 115 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: Harry joining us from WAA y thirty one. You can 116 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: find her on Facebook. Brittany, Harry needs Brittany, thank you 117 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: for being with us. Explain how the whole thing unfolded. 118 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: And you know, everybody keeps saying, we knew how it 119 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: was going to end, we knew how it was gonna end. 120 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: I felt all along that there was a very high 121 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: percentage if I was a betting person, that somehow Vicky 122 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: White would end up dead. And you hear her last words, 123 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: let's get out run, And you hear her also saying, 124 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: I knew we shouldn't have left the hotel. We should 125 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: never have left the hotel. Tell me how the whole 126 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: capture played out. What we know according to the Sheriff, 127 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: as he mentioned in a press conference yesterday, was Vicky 128 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: and Casey were seen leaving that Motel forty one along 129 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: Highway forty one here in Ovansville, Indiana, and not long 130 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: after they left the park lot, we know that a 131 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: pursuit ensued and not long after that ended with a crash. 132 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: But Sheriff Day Wedding here in Vanderberg County, Indiana, said 133 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: US Marshalls actually rammed the vehicle that Cadillacs that they 134 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: were into a ditch, and that's really how that crash happened, 135 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: in how all of this ended. And Sheriff Wedding said 136 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: that had that not happened, this might have had a 137 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: different ending because he says that Casey told authorities that 138 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: he planned to have a shootout with law enforcement. So 139 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: Sheriff Wedding obviously said that he's very, very grateful that 140 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: that is not what happened. Here Sheriff Rick Singleton joining us, 141 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: the elected Lardale County Sheriff sheriff. How did they get 142 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: the Caddy Mynor family as they purchased it up, We 143 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: found the first vehicle that we were able to identify, 144 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: the Ford Edge abandoned in Tennessee actually a week after 145 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: they left, and it was actually abandoned the day they left. 146 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: We know that they purchased a black pickup truck in 147 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: that area. That's the pickup truck that was found at 148 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: the car wash up in Indiana. The local police ran 149 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: that vehicle. It didn't come back to thole them because 150 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't total them. They purchased him, they abandoned it 151 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: and apparently got the Cadillac. I'm assuming they probably purchased 152 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: it too. They had the cash for them. Were they 153 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: down to about twenty nine grand? That's my understanding. That 154 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: was the profimal amount that was recovered. So they ran 155 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: through seventy thousand dollars, Is that right, Sheriff. You know 156 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: she had already purchased one vehicle here, she had made 157 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: several other purchases, clothes for him, you know, the best 158 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: sort of thing. So they had a considerable sum of money. 159 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: It's amazing to me that they managed to pull off 160 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: so many car purchases. Staying in a hotel, they had 161 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: to eat. How were they getting that? Were they going out? 162 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: Were they ordering in? How did they register into the 163 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: hotel without driver's licenses or without anyone identifying them? We understand, 164 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: and they may have paid a guy to register at 165 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: the hotel, But the buying of the multiple cars, the vehicles, 166 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: the hotel, the food, the car wash. Take a list 167 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: an hour cut thirty seven our friends at way. Just today, 168 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: investigators released this photo of a two thousand and six 169 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: Ford F one fifty pickup truck in Evansville that authorities 170 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: say the couple abandoned at a car wash around May third. 171 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't until Sunday that authorities got the tip. Turns 172 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: out the two were still in the area for days. 173 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: Law enforcement had urged the public to be on the lookout, 174 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: hoping Casey White's six foot nine, three hundred forty pounds 175 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: size would make him easy to spot. Sheriff Singleton is 176 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: anxious to have him back in custody in North Alabama 177 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: to face charges of capital murder from the twenty fifteen 178 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: stabbing of Connie Ridgeway. We've already made a ranger for 179 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: the Department of correct Group. He will be brought here 180 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: for a rangement. If it's two o'clock in the morning, 181 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. The judge was agreed to come out 182 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: time stories with Nancy Grace for those of you just 183 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: joining us. Gaelhouse lover Casey White charged with the murderer 184 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: and the shooting death of his prison guard lover Vicki White. 185 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: But how did the whole thing unfold? Lenny DePaul, former 186 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: Chief Inspector commanded US Marshall Fugitive Task Force. I'm very 187 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: surprised they're still in the same area. And how did 188 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: they pull off buying so many vehicles, staying in hotels, 189 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: getting food? How'd they do it? I mean, standing on 190 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: the run this guy certainly wasn't gonna hide in plain 191 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: sight at seven foot, three hundred pounds. But the US 192 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: Marshall serves the Great Lakes and also the Gulf Coast 193 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: Regional Fugitive task Forces, and of course the Sheriff's department. 194 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: They did an outstanding job, Nancy. And here's what they did. 195 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: They put you know, they utilized the intel that they 196 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: were gathering. They put everything out. Social media was fired up. 197 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: You guys did a great job plastering their photos. The 198 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: public remained vigilant, and sure enough, the fellow working in 199 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: the car wash did his homework ransom video and identified 200 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: this guy. So they were out there. They had a plan. 201 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: Apparently there was a flying ointment with vehicles possibly breaking 202 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: down and whatnot, but it was only a matter of time. 203 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: And thankfully, as the sheriff said, I mean, when they 204 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: pitted that car and the weapons that were found in 205 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: that vehicle and the ammunition, it could have been a 206 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: lot hell a lot worse than what it was. How 207 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: did they pull it off for this long even staying 208 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: fairly close to home. Take a listen to our cut 209 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: forty nine from the VanderBurg County Sheriff's Office. We got 210 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: a photo. They had about forty nine thousand dollars left over. 211 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: How did they get the fei in the cap? They 212 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: purchased the F one fifty and drove it here and 213 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: where they got the Cadillac. I'm not sure idea what 214 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: they were doing here for? Well, I think he said 215 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: that he was just trying to find a place to 216 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: hide out lay Low and they thought, you know, they'd 217 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: driven long enough. Did they wanted to stop for a while, 218 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: get the berry straight, and then figure out their next 219 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: place to travel. We don't believe they have any relatives, friends, 220 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: or acquaintances in Evazel, Benver County. Well, I can tell 221 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: you what they wanted to do, Brittany Harry. They wanted 222 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: to hold up in that hotel and use all those 223 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: sex toys that she bought before they took off and 224 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: went on the run. Now, how did they manage to 225 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: get into the hotel? I mean, when I write a 226 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: check at the grocery store, I have to show a 227 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: driver's license, credit cards, you name it, Okay, So how 228 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: did these two on the run, their faces plastered on 229 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: every TV screen in the country, How in the world 230 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: did they manage to hold up in that hotel and 231 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: nobody noticed. How did they sign in? Yeah, the short 232 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: answer is with the home man. Sheriff Dave Wedding said 233 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: yesterday he told me that they had an alias and 234 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: that I guess that they paid a homeless man to 235 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: essentially help them get this fourteen day stay at this hotel. 236 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: And we've done and we've seen interviews that have been 237 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: all over with the owner of the hotel and he 238 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: apparently had no idea that the two were wanted, and 239 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: neither did the homeless guy. So I also know that 240 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: that homeless man he won't be facing any charges here 241 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: in Indiana or anything like that. You know, Sheriff had 242 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: about thirty thousand dollars left, and I'm guessing the way 243 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: they bought the cars. First they bought the getaway car, 244 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: the orange car. Then they got an F one fifty 245 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: black truck, and then they ended up in the Cadillac 246 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: again when you done on the horse, look at the 247 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: trick record. She got the first car in cash with 248 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: a fake ID, using an alias. I bet that's what 249 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: she did the other times. What do you know, Sheriff, Well, 250 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: you remember the car she bought first at forty age 251 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: was the day they escape. Uh, they also bought the truck, 252 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, that same day, So no information they had 253 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: been put out there at that time about their descriptions. Uh, 254 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, at least they hadn't gotten the koind of 255 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: attention that that you know they got in the day's following. Uh, 256 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: there was an app put out to the National Crime 257 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: Information Systems, but to law enforcement, but as far as 258 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: the general public if most of that information were just 259 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: localized at that time, So you know, every who they 260 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: bought the truck from probably would have had no idea 261 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: they were wanted. So are you saying they bought the 262 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: escape car, the orange escape car, and the truck on 263 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: the same day. No, they left here in the orange car. 264 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: It broke down or whatever happened to it. It was 265 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: abandoned in Befeza. That's where they bought the truck same day, gotcha, Yeah, 266 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: the same day that they left. Right and again even 267 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: though their faces weren't out there yet, she probably used 268 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: a fake name and Elias, do you know what name 269 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: she bought the orange getaway car under. It was a 270 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: Maxwell name, Marie Maxwell Maxwell. Betchy. She did the same 271 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: thing because you know, James shell Nutt twenty seven years 272 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: Matro major case and now lawyer at shell Nutt Law Firm. 273 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: She's smart, She's really smart. I don't know how how. 274 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: I think he's got a low waddage. But even though 275 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: she may be smart and had planned this whole thing out, 276 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: I guarantee that she did the same thing over and over. 277 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: You know, she devised the very best plan and did 278 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: it over and over. Were you surprise that she was 279 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: able to get her mits on three separate cars while 280 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: on the run. Well, you know, I thought about that, 281 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: and that's something that caught my tissue as it did yours. 282 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: But she knows when you think about you buy a 283 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: used car, you know, it's pretty straightforward. You know what 284 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: you're doing is you're going up and looking at these cars. 285 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: It could be off craicks List, it could be off 286 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: market place. You go up and tell people your name, 287 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: they write to a they will sell, and you hand 288 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: them cash and very few questions are asked. And I 289 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: don't know if she bought this from a dealership or not, 290 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: but if she had a fake ID, they likely would 291 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: not have rand that and once cash at the table, 292 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: they could have easily goat it. Here's the other thing 293 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: is that when they buy those used cars, those tags 294 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: are not immediately transferred, so for days, if not a 295 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: week or two, they could have ridden around in that 296 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: vehicle and it showed the previous owner's name, not stolen, 297 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: and looked like a clean vehicle if law enforcement round 298 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: that tag. She was smart. She didn't use the stolen vehicle, 299 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: and she had the money to do that, because the 300 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: stolen vehicle would immediately go up all points of bullets 301 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: and an APB on that thinking. These two had done it, 302 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: But not only did they get the three separate getaway cars, 303 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: they blew it when they went to a car wash. 304 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: Take a listen our cut forty one to VTM thirteen 305 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: on me third, a stolen Furt f WIN fifty was 306 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: discovered at a car wash in Evansville. Surveillance footage from 307 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: the car wash appears to show Casey White the first 308 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: sighting of him in the city, meaning they were there 309 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: for possibly a week. Well, they're criminals. Sometimes they do 310 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: things that are unexplainable, but in this case, I'm glad 311 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: they did. Casey will be extradited back to Alabama to 312 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: face arrayment. Sheriff Singleton says he will do everything in 313 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: his power to make sure he can never escape again. 314 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: To you, Sheriff Rick Singleton, the Lauderdale County elected sheriff. Sheriff. 315 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: Let me understand this. So they get three getaway cars 316 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: and then while they're on the run they haven't been caught, 317 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: they take one to a car wash. Yeah, you know, 318 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: to back up just a little bit, the krup, I understand, 319 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: was in an individual yard that was for sale and 320 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: they bought it off of an individual. Also, the first 321 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: major break we got in the case really related to 322 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: that truck because when we got the information on the 323 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: truck and the marshals ran it on NCISE to see 324 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: if there have been in the activity, that's when they 325 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: found out that an officer there in Evansville had checked 326 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: that truck out a few days before. So that's that's 327 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: what led us to Evansville to start with. So the 328 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: truck was a key part of being able to find 329 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: me and locate them where they were at as far 330 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: as I'm staying in a motel, you know, they had 331 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: paid the bill ahead of time for two weeks. And 332 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to be my personal opinion is that the 333 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: national media attention that this guy, I think drove them underground. 334 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: I think that's why they wanted to stay there for 335 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and lay low, because they knew 336 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: if they poked their head out. Just as you mentioned, 337 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: she said in that audio that, you know, we should 338 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: have never left the motel. You know, I think they 339 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: knew if they got out and about that they'd be 340 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: spotted Yeast Prince at w the Fox. But it all 341 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: started at James Stinson's car wash a week ago, where 342 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: he saw a truck abandoned in one of the stalls. 343 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: The winds are down the door gunlock. My first thought, 344 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: oh my god, it could be this gap from Alabama. 345 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: He had the truck towed the next day. Fast forward 346 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: to Sunday night. His phone goes off. It's the US 347 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: Marshall's confirming his suspicions. I said, did you have a 348 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: card over the call? Like, yes, I did. I said, 349 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: in fact that guy and Alaman managed Yeah it did. 350 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, they were there waiting for authorities to arrive. 351 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: Stintson alerted forty four News Monday morning. Stenson showed us 352 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: the surveillance video, with six foot nine Casey White clearly visible. 353 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: You can see him standing by the blue F one 354 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: fifties stolen from Tennessee, waiting for Vicky White. I see 355 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: her charkle back around and a cab like a dicky 356 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: him up and then they layed together. The US Marshall 357 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: shared some of the images in a press release alerting 358 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: local law enforcements, bringing us back to the pursuit and 359 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: capture of the fugitives and more in our cut forty 360 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: five L five up. They've been staying at a hotel 361 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: down the road here. It used to be in Motel 362 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: six and now think it's changed names, and they had 363 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: a fourteen days stay there. We were fortunate that during 364 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: our investigation yesterday and that was a police officer who 365 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: was just doing his good diligence of patrolling and being smart, 366 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: noticed the vehicle in the parking lot of the hotel 367 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: and notified us immediately. So the task force members got together, 368 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: they drove down there, set up surveillance on the hotel. 369 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: Soon thereafter, the two suspects exited the hotel and fled 370 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: out of the hotel parking lot. They fled out of 371 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: the hotel parking lot and headed northbound on US Highway 372 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: forty one, taking listen our cup forty six explaining it. 373 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: The two suspects exited the hotel and fled out of 374 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: the hotel parking lot northbound on US Highway forty one, 375 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: turned in at an industry known as Anchor here in Uppsville. 376 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: They went through the parking lot, went through a grass field. 377 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: The members of the US Task Force basically ran the 378 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: vehicle and pushed it into a ditch. And we later 379 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: found out had they not done that, the fugitive was 380 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: going to engage in a shootout with law enforcement. So 381 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: by our quick thinking, our actions. Sometimes people may call 382 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: that a necessary action, but that action may have saved 383 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: many of my deputies and fellow law enforcement officers' lives. 384 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: And that's why I represent the sheriff's office. I wouldn't 385 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: bring my people home, and I don't care about the 386 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: fugitives lives. I know that may sound harsh, but that 387 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: is the view of law enforcement. They are trying to 388 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: save the lives of their deputies and their people fighting 389 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: crime and civilians. Not as were about the fusion of 390 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: Sheriff Rick Singleton joining US special guests, the elected sheriff 391 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: in Lauderdale County, Sheriff, could you explain to me how 392 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: it went down? So they go to the car wash 393 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: and it is there that the defendant is caught on camera, 394 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: all six foot nine inches of him. She pulls around 395 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: and picks him up in the caddy. They leave the 396 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: F one fifty there, go back to the motel and 397 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: that's when they are surveiled. How did it all happen? 398 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: Could you lay it out for a sheriff? Well, you know, 399 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: a lot of it comes down to just basic good 400 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: old fashioned police ward, you know, having the description of 401 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: that Cadillac and my understanding of a patrol officers broughted 402 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: that Cadillac in the parking lot. You know, it sort 403 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: of reminds me of the Air Rudolph case where a 404 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 1: rookie police officer found him drummaging through a dumpster, you know. 405 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: And and that's that's the unique thing about this particular case. 406 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: You know, usually when you have someone escape from a 407 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: county jail, there's really no plan, you know, the only 408 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: plan is get out, and then once they're out, they 409 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: don't know what they're going to do, and so usually 410 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: they're apprehended within a matter of hours, if not just 411 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: a few days. But this was well thought out, well orchestrated. 412 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: They had all the resources they needed. And you know, 413 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: and I was thinking about that just this morning. You know, 414 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: when you stop and think about it, I mean, this 415 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: was like looking for a needle in a haystack. They 416 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: had almost a seventy two hour lead on us before 417 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: we got our first major lead, and that was just 418 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: identifying the car they left the shopping center in. They 419 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: could have been anywhere in this country. And when you 420 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: start thinking about you're looking for two people that could 421 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: be anywhere in the United States, I mean, it's like 422 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: looking for a needle in a haystack. We had no 423 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: clue what direction they went in at that time. We 424 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: did find out late Sunday night that this was the 425 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: car that they did leave here in turns out that 426 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: car had been abandoned the day they left, So, you know, 427 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: when got to it, we didn't have the back square one, 428 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: didn't never really have a lead. But I'm gonna tell 429 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: you the United States Marshall's SIS Task Force, that is 430 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: a tremendous group of young men and women who do 431 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: their job and do it very well, and my own 432 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: investigators in the early hours of this investigation, I mean, 433 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: they did a tremendous job of canvassing that shopping center, 434 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: trying to develop some lead because we started with absolutely nothing. Well, 435 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: I gotta agree with you, Sheriff. I'm a big fan 436 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: of the US Marshals. My long time investigator, the first 437 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: investigator I was assigned in the District Attorney's office, big 438 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: huge guy, Robert McMichaels. He had a football ring, he 439 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: had played football, and I remember when I lost him. 440 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: He went to become the US Marshal for the Northern 441 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: District of Georgia and just a great, great man, relentless 442 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: his whole team. That's when I first really learned whether 443 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: the US Marshals do so, Sheriff, could you walk us 444 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: through if you don't mind, I know you know it 445 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: like the back of your hand. But everybody wants to 446 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: know how this thing went down. We know how they 447 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: get out of the jail, We know how she planned 448 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: it for weeks and weeks and weeks. We know they 449 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: left in the orange getaway car, and that they swapped 450 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: the patrol car with a getaway car in a shopping mall, 451 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: shopping strip center. But then what happened, Well, they obviously 452 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: headed north to you know, had trouble with that car. 453 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: Walf the crust. My understanding is just right there in 454 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: the general area where the Ford Edge was abandoned. So 455 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: so yes, I think they probably they walked and so 456 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: this truck in the yard for sale and bought it. 457 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: But you know, the apparently they went there straight to 458 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: Evansville because my understanding right, I think that truck would 459 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: run either on Monday or Tuesday by that police officer 460 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: up there, reported by the car washowner, and of course 461 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: it didn't come back stolen. They got into Cadillac check 462 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: into this motel, and I really think the reason they 463 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: did that, and especially paying two weeks up front, is 464 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: that they by now this has made national news. Their 465 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: pictures flastered all over news stations all across the country 466 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: on radio shows. H you know, so they're out there 467 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: and and know that they're going to be easily spotted 468 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: if they're out and about Uh. He tells them, we 469 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: should have never left the hotel, you know, and you know, 470 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: but they do. And I don't know where they were 471 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: headed when they left the hotel Monday, but wherever it 472 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: was is a bad choice on their part. We knew 473 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: that the rooms in this I think it was a 474 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: quality in were very small, very bare, with an open closet. 475 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 1: Not much was found in the room. But we also 476 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: know that no one, none of the guests, saw Vicky 477 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: White or her gailhouse lover leave go in or out, 478 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: so there had to be some form of delivery going 479 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: in and out. I'm curious that the delivery person saw 480 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: them was suspicious because we also know that Vicky White 481 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: had tried her best to alter her appearance, even using 482 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: different wigs. In the end, she was recognized, and it's 483 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: believed she took her own life or did she listen? 484 00:29:46,560 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: These are her last words? Hello, thanks John, airbags are going. 485 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: We'll get out the wrong hotel. You hear her say, 486 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: we should never have left the hotel. We should get 487 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: out and run time stories with Nancy Grace time on. Hello, 488 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: thanks John. You hear her say we should never have 489 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: left the hotel. We should get out and run straight 490 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: out to Sheriff Rick Singleton. Do you believe Vicky White 491 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: took her own life? I think that's the possibility. UM 492 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: My understanding is that's that's that's what the local authorities 493 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: there in Indiana. I think that the evidence leads up 494 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,479 Speaker 1: to um. The thing about Vicky White, uh, you know, 495 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: she obviously was facing criminal charities back here. But knowing 496 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: the Vicky I've known for the last seven years, I 497 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: think she was more uh uh, I guess distraught over 498 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: having to come back here and face her family and 499 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: friends as she was the charges. Um. I think that. 500 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: I mean she she was loved by her co workers, 501 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, and and uh you know, respected and uh 502 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 1: you know. I think that played on her as much 503 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: as as the charges themselves. And of course she's worked 504 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: seventeen years and in an institution. She holds what it's 505 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: like to live on the other side of the bars. Um, 506 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, that might have been a factor too, But 507 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: I think there is a possibility. And then my understanding 508 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: is that they feel for you know, pretty much certain 509 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: that that happened. We've been told that in the end 510 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: she was found with a single gunshot wound and that 511 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: she still had the gun in her hand. Is that true, sheriff? 512 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: That's my understanding. You know that I've seen some video 513 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: clips were offered are at the car and they're talking 514 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: about the gun in her hand, uh and so forth, 515 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: and the other thing I've heard about the on the 516 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: some reports that she called nine one one. My understanding 517 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: is when the vehicle Rick that's the north Star automatically 518 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: called nine one one, and that's we're actually we're hearing 519 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: their conversations. I don't think she actually knew she was 520 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: being recorded by nine one one, right, I don't think 521 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: she did either. That is how we get the recording 522 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: that we've been playing for you. Everybody, is the nav 523 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: system within that vehicle that Cadillac started up a call 524 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: upon the crash and call nine one one is my 525 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: understanding to doctor Tim Gallagher, or medical examiner for the 526 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: State of Florida, Doctor Gallagher, how common is it when 527 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: someone commits suicide and I believe she was shot in 528 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: the head, that they can hold onto the gun. Well, 529 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: that's typically what we find when somebody commits suicide that way. 530 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: While they're in the seated position, so typically their hand 531 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: would fall down to their side, and because of primitive 532 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: neurological actions that are still going on in their hand, 533 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: their hand tends to clench, they tend to make a fist, 534 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: and then they make a fist around that gun and 535 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: it's still it's still found in their hand, even with 536 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: their fingers still pulled on the trigger. So when you're 537 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: when you're standing of course that's not the case. Typically, 538 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: Typically they dropped the gun and it could be on 539 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: the right or the left side of them. But when 540 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: they're sitting down, or even when they're laying down on 541 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: a bed, so for instant, their hand clenches around that 542 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: gun and they're often found with the gun still in 543 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: their hand, their fingers still on the trigger too. Lenny 544 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: de Paul former US Marshall Service Fugitive Task Force Lenny, 545 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: are you surprised that she killed herself? And do you 546 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: think that she believed Casey White, her jailhouse lover, was 547 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: going to shoot it out and that they would both 548 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: go down in a blaze of glory. You know, Nancy, 549 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: this eleven day man hunt. I was concerned about her 550 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: all the way around. I mean, I don't know how 551 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: this thing was going to play out, considering his background, 552 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: his violence. I mean, he's doing life in prison, looking 553 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: at the death penalty on another case, and talking with 554 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: the commanders and these task forces. I was going back 555 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: and forth with them all week, and that was their 556 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: biggest worry. How is this going to end? But she 557 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: going to become a hostage. Wasn't going to be suicide 558 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: by cop? Was it? A barricaded suspect situation, So these 559 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: guys were hitting on all cylinders and of course not 560 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: ruling anything out. I'm a little surprised that she took 561 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: her own life. I do, yeah, I was. I was 562 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: a little worried and taking in consideration the weapons that 563 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 1: were found in that vehicle, you know, and the cars 564 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: that they were dumping, whether it was flat tires and 565 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: mechanical issues. I don't think they were transporting provisions and 566 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: weapons and everything into these cars. They were probably paying 567 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: cash for food. She was disguised, wearing wigs all the 568 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: time from what I understand from the investigator, So she 569 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: might have when out got food, came back whatever was low. 570 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: But she was definitely off the grid, going darth for 571 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: a little while. Don't believe they had any forms of communications, 572 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: any devices, any cell phones from what I'm hearing. But 573 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: you know, they had made ahead of Plan B or 574 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: a Plan C, but it didn't work out too well 575 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: for I gut. You know, when Lenny De Paul said guns, 576 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: they were armed to the hilt. Fourhand guns semi automatics 577 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: nine millimeter known as the AAR fifteen that she used, 578 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: two twenty three caliber rounds, any of them could have 579 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: been used to gun down a civilian or an officer. 580 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: You know, Sheriff Singleton, your girl was conned. She was conned. 581 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: She thought this guy loved her and somehow she was 582 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: going to live out some romantic fantasy change him to 583 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: make him a good person. I guarantee you, Sheriff, she 584 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: thought they were going to have a suicide pact. Guarantee 585 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: you that they had talked about going out together in 586 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: a blaze of glory. But that is not how it 587 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: went down. I absolutely agree with you. Um, you know 588 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: how many times have we seen this happen in our 589 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: jails and prisons, you know, where especially a female correcking 590 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: gusher is conned and wood you know, and and to 591 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: thinking that you know, uh that that they are somehow 592 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: special for this inmate. And you know, Casey White, if 593 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 1: you watch the footage of him, I mean even at 594 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: the scene, there no no visible sign, no body language 595 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: of any or more any any uh grief or whatever 596 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: that his quote wife had just shot herself. Um, you 597 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: know it just uh you, like a lot of things, 598 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: you just don't understand why people keep falling for it. Yeah, 599 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: go ahead, Karen start he he in my mind, had 600 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: a smirk on his face. He wasn't crying, as Sheriff 601 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: Singleton is pointing out, he's not moaning about his wife. 602 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: Nothing thing. And I'm not surprised at all. When we 603 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: talked the other day, I said, this man's office meds 604 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: he's really dangerous and there's not just physical abuse, there's 605 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: emotional I don't know how much he got her to 606 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: believe that they were going to do this past just 607 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: like a shirt said, together and actually in their lives. 608 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: And I'm not surprised he was smirking because there's a 609 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: guy who has no feeling he can commit commit murder, 610 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: so what wife, That's ridiculous. He could care less. Final thoughts, 611 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: Sir Singleton, I'm glad he's off the street. You know, 612 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: I appreciate all the help, especially from the media. I 613 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: think the media played the key role in driving them underground, 614 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: and and you know, once they let somewhere for a while, 615 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: that gave our investigators time to follow up on the 616 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: leads and tips and actually locate them. And we couldn't 617 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: have done it without the media and without the tips 618 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: from the public. That's that's through in any kind of 619 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: criminal investigation. I mean the public so important in an 620 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: occasion like this. I can't stress enough the importance of 621 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: the media cooperating and helping us get the word out there. 622 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,479 Speaker 1: I think it was a major factor. Casey White has 623 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: been charged with felony murder in connection with the death 624 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: of his lover, prison guard Vicky White. We wait as 625 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: justice un false Nancy Grace Crimes Joy signing off goodbye