1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm welcome to stuff 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: I never told you a protection of I heart radio, 3 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: And welcome to a feminist movie Wednesday. I think, yeah, 4 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: it might be a Friday, but I'm pretty sure it's 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: a Wednesday. I mean, who knows when you're listening to it, 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: though it could be a Friday or Tuesday. What what, 7 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: You can have feminist movie time whenever you like. Yes, 8 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: and today we are talking about a very recent movie. 9 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: It came out this year, in fact, Pray. So there 10 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: will be an intense spoilers. I don't know if that's 11 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: the word I want to use with that's the word 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: that we're going with. There's gonna be a lot of spoilers. Yes, yes, yes, yes, um. 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: And you can see our Mary Sue episode for more information. Actually, 14 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: we are going to talk about that a little bit 15 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: more and why that's relevant to this conversation in this episode. 16 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: But we did talk about it, and um our episode 17 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: on Mary Sue is where I defended them at like 18 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: she did. She had a lot of thoughts, So I 19 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: thoughts about Mary, oh my gosh, and I will be 20 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: talking about them in this episode. But yeah, I love 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: this movie. I love it. Um. I watched it recently 22 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: for Halloween with the first time fewer. We had such 23 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: a fun time. I watched it last night in preparation 24 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: for this, and then I actually watched it at your 25 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: place for the first time, right when it came out 26 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: with surround sound, and whoa, I was jumping all about. 27 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: I was very very nervous. Um yeah, with the surround sound, 28 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: especially uh. And then I was also incredibly obnoxious because 29 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: there's a scene where people speak French and it's not 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: subtitled and was appropriate. I was appropriately tipsy enough where 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm a genius and I will translate 32 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: this you yes, so sorry. Came back sober a week 33 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: later to let us know she's still a genius because correct, 34 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: that does not have subtitles, and so what would you do 35 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: do with that? Like me? That was that came later. 36 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: So it was a good friend. I'm such a lovely 37 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: fun friend. I loved it. I wasn't even a part 38 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: of it. I was just told yes, because you were like, 39 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: I will watch this later. I am going to bed. 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: I am sleepy, but you have seen it. I have. 41 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: I really liked it. So here's my thing about alien 42 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: horror films. I'm not a huge fan of sci fi. 43 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of fantasy. I think I've talked 44 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: about this before. Anything gruesome, I'm not a huge fan either. Like, 45 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: if it's like kitchy gruesome, I can get past it. Bodies, bodies, bodies, 46 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: perfect example of kitchi gruesome. Um, even scream, but like 47 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: the New Yer one was still like as a little much, um, 48 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: So I don't do that. I don't do like torture stuff. 49 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: I don't do really like intense murder things. So pray 50 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: being along the lines of the Predator, I've never been 51 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: a huge fan, so I'm like, I don't care. But 52 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: then the way everybody kind of was so hyped by 53 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: the characters and like the nuance of it was like, okay, 54 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm down, um, and I do love that type of 55 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: So it took me a minute to get convinced to 56 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: watch it. As much as I do love horror, I 57 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: don't love Gore. So I was like, okay, cool, cool, 58 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: cool um, And now like I'm a huge fan. So yes, 59 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: I did watch it. Yeah, I enjoyed it very much, 60 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: So I really recommend it. Yeah, I'm going to talk 61 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: about how much I recommend it throughout, so just go 62 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: ahead and into um so plots. The plot Pray is 63 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: he has a sci fi horror movie with the historical bent, 64 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: and it is out of the Predator franchise, which I 65 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: know I mentioned before, but I had a great love 66 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: of when I was a child. I watched it at 67 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: my sixteenth birthday. That's what we're talking about here. Uh. 68 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: It is the fifth one, but it's a prequel to 69 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 1: all of them. Uh. It debuted on Hulu in two 70 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: and it was its number one debut of all time. 71 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: It's still pretty high. They are apparently yes record, Yes, 72 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: yes es, Yes, you can still stream it. They're currently 73 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: not a sponsor, but has been in the past. Um 74 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: just fans, Just fans. It was directed by Dan Tratchenberg 75 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: and written by Patrick Eisen and the largely indigenous cast 76 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: stars Amber mid Thunder to Go to Beaver's Dane, di 77 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: Rie Grow, Michelle thrush Storm and Kit, Julian Black, Antelope 78 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: and Bennette Taylor Um. The creators originally pitched it as 79 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: a film that would quote follow a Comanche woman who 80 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: goes against gender norms and traditions to become a warrior, 81 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: which I would say is a pretty good description of 82 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: what happened. One of the producers. I think it's Jane Myers, 83 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: but forgive me if I miss pronounced it, and let 84 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: me know. Um is a member of both the Comanche 85 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: and Blackfeet nations. It was shot in English and the 86 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: Comanche language, and it is the first feature film to 87 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: have a full Comanche language dub, which we're going to 88 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: talk about later. Um. It was incredibly well received, with 89 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: many putting it at or above the original in terms 90 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: of quality. People praised the acting, the cinematography, the attention 91 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: to history and detail, the pacing. Some compared mid Thunder, 92 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: who plays the main character Nauru too Aliens Ellen Ripley. 93 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: It's fun and tense and moving and beautiful. My friend 94 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: who I watched it with every Halloween said, this isn't 95 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: just a good Predator movie. This is like a really 96 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: good movie. Uh. And it does work as a standalone, 97 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: Like you don't have to see the other Predator movies 98 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: for this to work, and I have not, and I 99 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. See see. Uh. They did make a great 100 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: effort to be historically accurate. The cast and crew were 101 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: given this huge binder of info around that including like 102 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: time appropriate toothbrushes like Nauru. There's a scene where you 103 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: see her using one. Um also wanted to shout out 104 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: that it was composed by Sarah Schachner. Uh, and we 105 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: know that women in the space of composing are pretty rare. Um. 106 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: The flute and vocals was done by Native American musician 107 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: Robert Merbelle. But I actually really like the music. It's 108 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: very intense. A lot of it is since very intense. Yes, Um. So. 109 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: The film takes place in North American Northern Grape Plains 110 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: area in seventeen nineteen. It follows Naru played by mid Thunder, 111 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: and her kada and companion, who, by the way, for 112 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: those Georgia came from the same animal shelter slash lifeline 113 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: center that my dog came from. Yes, and we're gonna 114 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: be talking about Coco. Her name is a little bit 115 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: as a bonus at the end. So yes, but I 116 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: still love it. I'll look at anyway. So Naru is 117 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: a young command woman who has been trained in the 118 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: ways of healing, but has a passion and talent for hunting, 119 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: one she shares with her brother Tabe. Her and Tabe 120 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: have a close relationship and Tabe supports her while also 121 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: calling out what he sees as her flaws and pushing 122 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: her to be better. Yeah, but he's also showing her 123 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: up a lot. Very early on, it becomes clear that 124 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: Naru's strategy involves more patients and observation than Tabe's, though 125 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: this is coupled with Tabe's longer experience because the community 126 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: is pushing Naru to give up on hunting and accept 127 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: her more acceptable position as a healer as a woman, 128 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: which she is also good at she learned from her grandmother, 129 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: but still so. Toby described his right of passage, where 130 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: you hunt those that would hunt you, and believe she 131 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: might not be able to do it. He kills the 132 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: hawk before she can, though she was waiting for it 133 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: to circle back for easier retrieval, showing her up like 134 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: I said, Yeah, Well, there's so many signs throughout where 135 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: she's like, she's waiting. She's right patient and observed, and 136 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: she was trying to make it easier to retrieve it, 137 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: but he shot it, so now they have to go 138 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: across the river to get it. Naru is determined to 139 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: prove herself. She goes out with Sadi, who, yes, this 140 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: this dog Coco that we mentioned to track a deer, 141 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: and she does like these awesome kick sliding moves. They're 142 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: hard to describe, but you've got to see it. I mean, 143 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: it's amazing. When she sees this fiery light in the sky. 144 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: The audience, or I would assume most of us maybe 145 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: not man because you haven't seen predator, but you know, 146 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: we know that it's predators. But Nara believes it is 147 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: the legendary thunderbird, and it's a sign that she should 148 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: go on her own right of passage to prove that 149 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: she is a hunter. And this opportunity to do so 150 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: calms up when one of the members of the tribe 151 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: is taken by a mountain lion, and she convinces her 152 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: brother to let her go on the hunts, and he agrees, 153 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: but it's more like, i'll let you track. You're a 154 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: good tracker, um. I'll let you if he needs medical help. 155 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: You're really good at that. Um. The other men in 156 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: the group are extremely doubtful of her skills vocally, uh, 157 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: pretty much outright undermining her and mocking her. One of 158 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: the men says, we won't be gone long enough to 159 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: need a cook m an. So they find the hunter 160 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: and Naru treats him, including giving him something that lowers 161 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: his body temperature. She is pressured to return with him 162 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: to their settlement while Tabe goes on to hunt this 163 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: mountain lion, which by the way, is really scared looking. 164 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: When Naru discovers a snake that has been scanned and 165 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: split along with huge prints, and it goes back to 166 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: find Tabe with another member of the tribe who's really 167 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: giving her a hard time. Because they just all give 168 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: her a hard time. Naro convinced this tab to go 169 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: with her plan of setting a trap for the mountain 170 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: lion in spite of the opposition from the other men, 171 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: but Tabe tells her this is her rite of passage 172 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: and that she should tell him this is as far 173 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: as you go and that's it. Yeah, which is a 174 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: recurring thing that comes up through this movie. So um, 175 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: basically you're telling the creature that's hunting you in this 176 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: rite of passage like this is it for you, This 177 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: is the end of the line. Um. So her and 178 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: the man hassling her waiting a tree after he tells 179 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: her a hunter doesn't wait, he says, he he hunts um. 180 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: And if you're scared, go back to camp. Where you belong, 181 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: and he continues to hassle her and told the mountain 182 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: lion jumps into the tree, it kills him. Um Naru 183 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: faces off with it. There's a really cool like spitting 184 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: camera scene at this part, and amazing balancing skills from her. 185 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: By the way, whoa when predator he's off in the 186 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: woods hunting something, doing something, so he distracts her with 187 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: some sounds and lights in the distance, so she falls 188 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: out of the tree, hits her head and passes out. 189 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, by the way, this whole thing we've been 190 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: describing has been cut in with scenes a predator hunting 191 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: animals and so a very brief rundown of predator as 192 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: someone who has seen all of the movies Predators. Whole 193 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: deal is that he has to find the most dangerous 194 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: predator slash hunter in an ecosystem and kill it for 195 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: his own rights of passage. And I do think most 196 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: of them are men, although I think there is some women. 197 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: But anyway, Um he watches and assesses a threat. So 198 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: when you see kind of the like graphics from his 199 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: helmet is basically like calculating how big of a threat 200 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: they are. Um learns their moves takes them out. Uh, 201 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, he has a lot of a lot of 202 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: tech and is invisible, which I think is kind of 203 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: a cheat, but whatever. Um. Also he collects skulls in 204 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: their spines and he puts them on the ship. And 205 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: that's how you prove that you did you succeeded in 206 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: your write of passage. But yeah, basically you're trying. He's 207 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: trying to find the top who who can I take out? 208 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: It's going to really prove I I am number one 209 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: in this hunting game. And I will say the entire 210 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: times like, this is not fair. There's nothing about this 211 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: that he has all this technology that has nothing to 212 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: do with They don't have any of this, And I'm 213 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: like and also his armors piers from come on yeah, 214 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: oh yeah. I mean he's a challenge. It's an interesting 215 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: character because he doesn't like in an alien versus predator, 216 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: which he has to have seen. Uh, Like, he won't 217 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: kill somebody who has cancer. Like there's a bunch of 218 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: rules that they follow. But at the same time, I'm like, 219 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 1: but right, but you're kind of using all this technology anyway. Um. 220 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: When Naru wakes, she has a massive headache and her 221 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: brother has analyced as war chief. After he returns from 222 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: killing the Mountain Lion, has the mounta Lion carcass uh 223 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: Naru confronts him, trying to convince him there's a threat 224 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: like they've never seen out there, but Tabe tells her 225 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: that she's done, that he had to carry her unconscious 226 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: body back, that she wasn't fit to be a hunter, 227 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: she couldn't finish the job. M m well. Determined to 228 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: find proof of this thread, and Naru goes off with 229 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: Sorry as she comes across an entire field of skinned 230 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: buffaloes pretty gruesome. Confused and unsettled by the needless waste 231 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: that she says a prayer over them, and then she 232 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: practices with her axe and attaches a hand and woven 233 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: chord to it for a quick retrieval. Very smart. She 234 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: falls into a bog and almost drowns in it, but 235 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: it's able to pull herself out with this axe and chord. Hello. 236 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: And then she and Sorry are attacked by a bear 237 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: and are forced to flee uh not really, take shelter 238 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: in the water under a beaver dam and witnesses an 239 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: invisible creature take on and kill the bear. All you see, 240 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: it's like wavy figures taking on. She frantically swims away 241 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: downstream where she's kept her to buy some camache. UH 242 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: sent to get her. They fight, and she puts up 243 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: a good fight before the men bind her, and she 244 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: tries to tell them about the invisible threat, but they 245 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: ignore her until it the predator arrived and starts to 246 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: kill them all off because yeah know, they also put 247 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: up a good fight, but they die. Um. Predator doesn't 248 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: see Naru, now caught in a foothold trap, as a 249 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: threat and leaves her alive. But then the French colonizers 250 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: responsible for the skinning and slaughtering of the bison come around, 251 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: capture her and cage her. This is where any skills 252 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: come into play. Oh gosh, I was so frustrating. I apologize. 253 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: Um yeah, I think I was just so happy I remember, 254 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: um yeah. Because this is this following sequences largely in 255 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: unsubtitled French. Uh So they're just speaking in French, but 256 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: it's not there's no subtitles. But they do this. These 257 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: French colonizers ring out their interpreter to ask Naru about Predator, 258 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: who they have dealt with before and are trying to hunt. Um. 259 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: She won't cooperate, so they reveal that they have her brother, 260 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: tab A, and they torture him in front of her. 261 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: The pair are tied to a tree as bait for Predator. 262 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: Tabe tells her that her plan with the Mountain Lion worked, 263 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: that she weakened it and that's why he was able 264 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: to capture it and kill it. She in turn tells 265 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: him that Predator won't target them while they are bound, 266 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: like he doesn't hunt that way. There is an epic 267 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: battle scene of Predator using all of his outer space 268 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: gadgets to decimate the Frenchman while Onaru tells a story 269 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: that culminates in her saying she's smarter than a beaver. Basically, 270 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: it's like building up for you to think she's going 271 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: to cut off her own hands, but then she's like, 272 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: but I'm smarter than a Beaver's really satisfying. She uses 273 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: the foothold trap to cut their vines and free them. 274 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: Tabe goes to at a horse while now he returns 275 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: to the French encampment to rescue Sorry and expertly takes 276 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: out some freshman a long way. It's very beautifully choreographed 277 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: fight scene. Yes, delightful, so the interpreter from earlier is 278 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: now dying and begs for her help, promising he'll teach 279 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: her to use their firearms if she helps them. She 280 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: does so, giving him the same ingredient from earlier that 281 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: makes the temperature drop. She's unimpressed with a firearm and 282 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: how it works, but takes it, abandoning him when predator arrives. 283 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: You gotta do what you gotta do. She observes that 284 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: the predator can't seem to see the still alive interpreter, 285 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: realizing that that is because his body heat is low. However, 286 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: the interpreter accidentally a large predator to his presence, and 287 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: predator kills him and is about to kill Naru after 288 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: the firearm didn't run for her, when Tabe arrives on 289 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: a horse to distract him. Very sad, yes, I mean, 290 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: but also very skillfully, I may add, so yeah. They 291 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: work together to weaken predator, but predator kills tab A. 292 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: He uses his last action to give Nario a chance 293 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: to escape. However, Naru has observed how predators helmet targeting 294 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: system works and has an idea, so she tracks down 295 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: one of the surviving Frenchmen and uses him as bait 296 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: She eats that herb to lower her body temperature because 297 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: she's observed that Predator can't see if the body temperature 298 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: is liver before using the pistol to shoot off and 299 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: steal Predator's mask and also cuts off his arm and 300 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: rips off one of his mandibles. And the ensuing battle, 301 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: uh she tricks Predator into the box she'd almost died 302 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: in earlier and severely injures him. Predator uses his targeting 303 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: system against her, but Naru uses it against him via 304 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: his stolen face mask and the spear meant for Naru 305 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: kills Predator instead, and she tells him not one step further. 306 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: This is as far as you come. Um. She cuts 307 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: off Predator's head and returns to her camp carrying it, 308 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: her face mirrored with green blood, and she is named 309 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: the new war Chief. Uh. I will say as a 310 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 1: young girl looks on and just clearly like, oh wow, 311 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: I can be me. Oh my gosh, I love this movie. 312 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: It's so good. It's so good. It's so good. Alright, 313 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: So let's talk about some themes here, and we're gonna 314 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: start with the whole idea of this kind of gender 315 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: norm about around being a warrior and then the Mary 316 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: Sue fall out that came from this. And one of 317 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: the things I really do like about this movie is 318 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: that it is Naru's story. It's not predators story. He's 319 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: in it. He's a villain. He has some cool scenes, 320 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: but it's definitely not about Predator, which I love. And 321 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: also I do like that there are so many things 322 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: throughout this movie where you see Naru's watching and waiting 323 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: and listening. I'm observing and learning from that, and how 324 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: that all pays off in the end, even though she's 325 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: being made fun of it constantly. That guy I was 326 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: talking about earlier, he was kind of always hasslinger. He said, like, 327 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, a hunter hunts, they don't wait. But that 328 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: was her thing, that she was always observing, watching, waiting, 329 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: and that is why she was able to defeat Predator. 330 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: And I don't want to jump too much into the 331 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: Mary's secrety get but a lot of people were like, oh, 332 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger is so tough, so many muscles. Of course 333 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: he could beat Predator. That's not how he beat Predator. 334 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: He beat Predator after all of his crew was destroyed, 335 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: all of these manly army men were destroyed. He had 336 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: to learn and to watch him to observe. It's the 337 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: same thing. It's about hunting and watching and observing. UM. 338 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: So I think that that argument is just dismissing what 339 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: the original was about. He did not win that because 340 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: of his muscles or strength. He won that because he 341 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: observed and found weaknesses. And that's what she's doing, like 342 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: just so competent. Oh yes, and I do. There's a 343 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: couple of scenes because I I saw some people, I 344 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: guess if I'm not making it clear. There was a 345 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: huge backlash from mostly men on the internet about her 346 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: after this came out, like she could there's no way 347 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: she could have beat Predator, and some some of those 348 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: arguments try to be like, well, we see so many 349 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: instances of her failing. I would argue that one you've 350 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: been mad if she had succeeded at everything, because that's 351 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: what Mary Sue is. But anyway, but also that's when 352 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: she's trying to do what these men are telling her 353 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: to do, when she's just trying to do it without 354 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: observing our watching. When she tries to do that, she 355 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: misses um. She is is somebody who adapts UM and 356 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: so like when she makes that retractable acts. Like she 357 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 1: sees a problem with the acts, right, she makes it 358 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: retractable with the cord, and then immediately after you see 359 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: she's killed like, I don't know, five seven rabbits. So 360 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: she's somebody who's like smart and cunning and very very capable, 361 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: but is always adapting to what she's seeing, right, And 362 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: also like the failures are not necessarily because she couldn't 363 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: do it, It's because something was a mess. Yes, it's 364 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: almost always predators in the background making noise. And I 365 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: mean that's another point that I don't think we're going 366 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: to go into too much in this, but we've talked 367 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: about that before of the woman in horror often who's like, hey, 368 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: I think something's wrong. Yeah, but she's like the warning everyone, 369 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: Hey there's something bad out there. You are not listening, 370 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: and they're all like, I'm not afraid of a bear, 371 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm telling you, it's not a bear. 372 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of like we're not talking about it, 373 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: but paranormal activity. I watched it again, You're like the 374 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: entire time, I'm the man. I can fight this goes, 375 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: I can handle it. It's me. I can do this. 376 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: I can take care of us. You did. Yeah, oh yeah, 377 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: just like these men should. You did. Yeah, Like I said, 378 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if we disregard all the other ones, I 379 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: think she would have been fine without him. He really 380 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: screwed it up. But anyway, he sure did, He sure did. 381 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, she was um. She was just clearly competent 382 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: and U people didn't listen to her. Or We're just like, 383 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: but you're good at medicine, though, But you're good at that, 384 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: and that's appropriate for for women, is that you should 385 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: do this. But there I I do have a lot 386 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: of instances of if I can just talk about how 387 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: cool she is, uh like when she so there's so 388 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: many things that I think when you're watching it the 389 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: first time, you're just like, oh yeah, but if you 390 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: actually kind of pay attention to the story and all 391 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: of the seeds they planted and all the payoff that 392 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: is there, Like she uses the foothold trap after witnessing it, 393 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: like she uses the gun after witnessing it. She uses 394 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: predators helmet after witnessing it, like she's always watching calculating learning. 395 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: She leads him into land that she knows better than 396 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: a foreign invader, which is the same for the French colonizers. Um. 397 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: She does not give up, even when she fails, even 398 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: when no one believes her, and even when no one 399 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: thinks she can do it. She sees what you can't 400 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: see even as the viewer. There's one scene where she's 401 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: fighting all the French people. You're like, oh, that's the 402 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: last guy, and there's a guy behind her, but you 403 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: can't see her as the viewer, but she can and 404 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: gets him, and it's just so satisfying, like it is 405 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: hard earned badassness that she has, Like she has been 406 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: doing this, she knows what she's doing, and just like 407 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: the way she dodges and sees that quick reflexes. Um. 408 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: I do think it's really interesting and purposeful take on 409 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: what is the threat. Multiple times Predator has a chance 410 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: to kill her and then doesn't because he doesn't view 411 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: her as a threat. That's his whole thing. And a 412 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: lot of times it's because she's in one way like 413 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: entrapped or bound or something. But at least in one case, 414 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's just because he was yeah, which 415 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: I think is really interesting because that's basically what the 416 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: whole A lot of these men who were hunters were 417 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: telling her and even some women. We're like, oh, you're 418 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: just not a hunter, You're just not a threat. And 419 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: even Predator was kind of like that, like yeah, and 420 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: she even says I think at one point, like that's 421 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: why he doesn't see me as this threat and that's 422 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: why I can get him. Yeah, and she does have 423 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot of scenes where you see everyone telling 424 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: her like, oh, you can't hunt, and that's why she says, like, 425 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: that's why I want to do it. No one believes 426 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: that I can. Um. And this is like her brother Predator, 427 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: the French colonizers, everyone thinks they know better than her 428 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: to different extents. Um. And it's also pretty rewarding to 429 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: see both the French colonizers and the Predators tech like 430 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: backfire on them. That's pretty I love the scene where 431 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: they're all trying to reload their weapons out right. They 432 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: deserved it. M m yeah. And and I mean this 433 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: is like Predator is essentially saying she's less of a 434 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: threat than a snake because he killed that snake, skin 435 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: that snake, and he let her be so m hm uh. 436 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: Here's a quote from Din of Geek addressing the idea 437 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: that the command she couldn't have fought predator, which is 438 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: again missing the point. And this is a lot of 439 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: what came out of those like angry white dudes. At 440 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: the end, the Commande are generally recognized perhaps the fiercest 441 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: warrior culture among the Native American communities that lived among 442 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: the Southern Plains. Historians even a tribute fear of the 443 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: Commanche as creating the limited borders of both Bain and 444 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: France's colonization projects in North America during the eighteenth century, 445 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: and the wars between Texan settlers and the Commanche and 446 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century remained the stuff of legend right Definitely, 447 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: Like as think of all the tribes, I've definitely heard 448 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: the Comanche warrior more than any other. Not to negate that, 449 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that's one. I feel like it's 450 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: legendary for sure. So Also a quote from Mashable, they say, 451 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: when I tell you that Naru kicks ass, I don't 452 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: think you'll understand quite how much ass she kicks. She's 453 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: an ace with a tomahawk and a gifted tracker with 454 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: an excellent canine companion to boot. On top of all that, 455 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: Naru is smart. Her decisions such as fastening a rope 456 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: to her tomahawk, so she's always able to pull it 457 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: back to her consistently have satisfying narrative payoff. You want 458 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: her to succeed, not just because she's praise the main character, 459 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: but also because pray makes it abundantly clear how capable 460 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: she is. And it's true, it's it's a whole build up, 461 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: which is that weird, Like it's not a sud thing. 462 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: You see her building up to all of her crafts, 463 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: to being beyond good, which we've talked about with women 464 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: in general and those of marginalized communities having to over 465 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: of themselves. This is that narrative. Yeah, oh yeah, well 466 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about a second um. But yeah, I 467 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: mean it's too like you immediately are rooting for her um. 468 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: At least that was my experience. I was like, oh, 469 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: I am so in with you were amazing. I didn't 470 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: love her killing rabbits, but I know you gotta eat, 471 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: you gotta eat. She does become, as we said, the 472 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: war chief in the end. And I love when her 473 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: and tabe Air joking about like predator. You of all 474 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: the right of passages, you could have gone with me, 475 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: but it is that was her right of fauces, she 476 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: cut off his head, comes back with the blood spirit on. 477 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: It's pretty pretty good, and I do like that overall, 478 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: it's an amalgamation of her knowledge and tracking, healing and 479 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: hunting that gave her leverage to beat predator in the end. Like, uh, 480 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: she was more well rounded outside of of gender norms, 481 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: Like she couldn't have done it without her knowledge of medicine, right, Um, 482 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: but she so couldn't have done it without our knowledge 483 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: of hunting. Like I like that. It was that she's 484 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: so skilled in all of these things that you know 485 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: are gendered, but she's crossing those norms. Um. Yeah, but okay, yeah, 486 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: let's talk about this Mary Sue Blacklash, which again you 487 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: can see her the whole episode we did on Mary 488 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: Sue pretty recently where we talked about this because after 489 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: this movie came out, Um, Mary Sue started trending on 490 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: Twitter and I knew it it was not going to 491 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: be good. And when I saw it without seeing the movie, 492 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: what was happening? Yep, I was like, oh no, oh, no, 493 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: no no, um. And the reason it was trending was, 494 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: as I said, because so many people and I'm assuming 495 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: most of them dudes that most of the articles were 496 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: in videos were done by dudes. Um. I thought, let no, 497 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: there's no way Naro could be that skilled, and there's 498 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: no way she could have taken on Predator. So essentially 499 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: you haven't listened to the Mary see episode of Mary 500 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: Sue is a typically a woman character that is loved fictionally, 501 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: loved by everyone and is amazing and skilled at everything, 502 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: with one or two endearing flaws. It's a term that 503 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: has roots and fan fiction, but I do think the 504 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: way that it's thrown about in the mainstream media is 505 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: very sexist and actually pretty devoid of what it actually 506 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: was in fan fiction in my opinion. But whatever, very 507 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: sexist in nature to mean essentially a competent, skilled woman. Um, 508 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: which a woman could never be, I guess unless we 509 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: see her train a ton, which is often an argument 510 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: that comes up, and I'm like, well, here it is. 511 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: You did see her train a ton and that still 512 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: wasn't enough. Um, it's not a believable and heavy quotes. Um. 513 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: Never mind the endless male characters that match this criteria. 514 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: It's very much like just in my opinion, it's a 515 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: woman man character always gets called Mary su these days, 516 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: people argue that she's usually Mary Su was like bland 517 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: or doesn't have much character development. But again, I think 518 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: that's just kind of main character stuff, and I would 519 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: say Naru has tons of character development. I don't know, 520 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean people were trying to find like, well, 521 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: she's bad at hunting, here's why, um, but also like 522 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: she's too good at hunting, and here's why. Like, it's 523 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: just so many contradictions that they had. Um. And yeah, 524 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: like I said, I felt like a lot of that 525 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: was she was struggling to adapt to a hunting style 526 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: that wasn't natural to her when people kept telling her 527 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: like stop waiting, stop waiting, um. And when she did 528 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: do her own hunting style, she's the one that defeated Predator, 529 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: and she was consistently distracted by Predator. As you said. Uh. 530 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: Here is a long quote from Dinner of Geek that 531 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: I want to include. Since well before Prey was released, 532 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: they've made their criticisms known online, most of which are 533 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: couched and thinly veiled forms of bigotry and misogyny. Began 534 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: when the first teaser trailer appeared for Prey, which highlighted 535 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: the terrifying technological and balance between narrow and a fellow 536 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: Comanche warrior and the predator. In the original teaser, we 537 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: see the pair hiding and tall grass while one character 538 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: draws bowstring and arrow from a shoulder, and the predators 539 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: infamous three pronged light which signifies death, appears on his head. 540 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: By design, you are meant to experience a realization of dread. 541 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: By the contrast, however, many online influencers reacted with scorn 542 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: at the very idea of a Predator movie focusing on 543 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: Native American warriors taking on a pop culture icon from 544 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: the Reagan years, particularly since the main character among those 545 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: warriors is a woman. Based purely on the trailer, YouTubers 546 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: were already reviewing Prey months ago with headlines how to 547 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: spoil a good idea and then lamenting that the fan 548 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: base quote just wants a decent Predator movie instead of 549 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: a thing intersectional struggle session. The same video, which we're 550 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: purposefully not linking to here, also snarks that unlike the 551 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: muscular Arnold Schwarzenegger, mid Thunder quote has the size and 552 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: build of a small child, and her facing off against 553 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: the predator will be quote in ludicrous. Since the movie's 554 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: actual release, such criticism hasn't gone away on social media 555 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: apps like Twitter, where memes have gone viral depicting images 556 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: of the cast of Predator juxtaposed against mid thunder and 557 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: text that reads a team of highly skilled badasses with 558 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: years of experience and almost no chance versus a predator. 559 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: A girl with almost no experience beats a predator alone. 560 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: It is, of course, impossible to separate the misogyny and 561 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: racist undertones of these critiques from any point. They're trying 562 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: to make. A predisposed need to dismiss any film, particularly 563 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: in genre and fanboyfair as ludicrous are undeserving when it 564 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: starts a woman is as common as mindless uses of 565 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: the term Mary Sue. Writing off Prey because it starts 566 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: a Comanche woman who's played by a woman of Lakota, 567 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: Nakota and Dakota heritage as the ultimate survivor as opposed 568 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: to a six ft two inches Austrian male bodybuilder. Is 569 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: the point? Yes, yes, oh my gosh, so much that 570 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: makes me mad about that? Yeah, yeah, Like if you 571 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: pick apart any of this, it falls apart. Like I 572 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: I've said a million times, you can have contiques about writing, 573 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: but a lot of this is just sexist and racist, 574 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: and basically what you're saying, like the line where they're 575 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: like one unskilled woman alone, doesn't she wasn't unskilled. And also, 576 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: like I said, all of Arnold Schwartzenegger's crew got destroyed 577 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: and they had all of these weapons in training or whatever. 578 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: She had jest as much training, but whatever. And the 579 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: way he survived was doing by what she did, which 580 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: was observing predator and finding flaws and hunting. But I 581 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: really found that if weird that um, those who are 582 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: the ones I saw critiquing were critiquing her against Ripley 583 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: from Alien saying that Ripley, you know these are the 584 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: reasons Ripley was, Okay, there's no on my wait, what 585 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: how are they different? Why do you why do you 586 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: accept from one without the other? I'm confused. I really 587 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: think there's a lot going on there. I mean, it's 588 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: probably racist, but come on, okay, it's probably racist. But 589 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: it's also like Ripley wasn't a very physical character. She 590 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 1: has her moments, but she's mostly like playing and doing 591 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and and this character not it 592 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: is very physical. And I've just heard so many arguments 593 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: from people where they're like but women biologically just can't 594 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: do that, And like, well, are you telling me these 595 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: superhero movies was white men they could just do that. 596 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: That's true. I think you're listening to yourself exactly exactly. 597 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: But also, Alien was the first, and this is the 598 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: fifth of a franchise. It's already gotten a lot of 599 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: fanboy gate keeping going on, and I do want to say, like, 600 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: the original was such a macho movie. So here's a 601 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: quote from Vulture. The first Predator came out at the 602 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: peak of the muscle movie era, and its ensemble exuded 603 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: levels of testosterum that can only really be obtained with 604 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: some antabolic assistance. Former wrestler and Minnesota governor Jesse Ventura 605 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: slung around the kind of rotary machine gun usually mounted 606 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: to a helicopter. Carl Weathers engaged in a friendly hand 607 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: class that turned into an improp to arm wrestle that 608 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: lives on a memes, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, the burliest of 609 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: them all, played a smirking, sentient pectoral muscle with the 610 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: undeniably badass nickname of dutch Um. But however, given all 611 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: of that, the creators have said the original was making 612 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: fun of this macho masculine idea that you can just 613 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: punch something and win. Uh, and the whole thing was 614 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: super buff, but you know the super buff Mark Schwarzeneger 615 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: couldn't beat Predator until he started observing and using his brain. Um, 616 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: he reverts to less uh technologically advanced weapons to surprise Predator. 617 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: So it's it doesn't once again feel like a very 618 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: much missing of the point point. And I do think we, 619 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: as I said, we were so ready to pick apart, 620 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: but physically that is not possible, or technically that's not 621 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: possible with women, but we don't do that with men. 622 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: Are not nearly as much with men, or we're just 623 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: much more willing to go along with the ride with 624 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: male characters. And I also wanted to point out that 625 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: we do have in this movie pray women teaching and 626 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: supporting and inspiring each other and other women in this 627 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: so you've got Nara's grandmother and the girl watching Nara 628 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: at the end. As we said, and uh, I did 629 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: want to include this quote from mid Thunder about the 630 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 1: character and and she's been very outspoken about playing against 631 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: Hollywood tropes when it comes to Native Americans. She's definitely 632 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: determined and hardheaded and was a well written character. Through 633 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: her journey, she's taught that the why and what you 634 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: do matters. We had weapon training with the Tomahawks, lances, knives, 635 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: and our tree. We also developed a sign language. It 636 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: was based off a real Comanche sign language mixed with 637 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: our personal trainers tactical sign language. Um. So she's got 638 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: a lot of great quotes and that brings us to 639 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: we're not gonna get too much into this between the 640 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: language part, because this was historic as we sat at 641 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: the top to have a full Comanche dub um. Comanche 642 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 1: language is used in it. The fact that there are 643 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: not subtitles under the French part really brings home that 644 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: Narrow is clearly the hero of this and they are 645 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: the villains and she wouldn't understand their language, so it's 646 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: from her point of view. But it is something that's 647 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 1: like when I was reading about it, it's seriously lacking 648 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: in terms of what everything else has been because this 649 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: is this is the first and I think the only 650 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: example I found. The only other example I found was 651 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: that Star Wars has been dubbed in Novo. Yeah, yeah, 652 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, there's just so much more ground we could 653 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: cover there, but that that is that's something that's progress 654 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: and it was cool. Uh and then here comes our 655 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: bonus about Coco. Okay, so Cocoa the dog um seen 656 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: Steeler as many people said it was an internet sensation 657 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: after this came out. Yes, and Cocoa was adopted from 658 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: a Georgia a Georgia facility trained specifically for the film, 659 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: and in the very fond words of mid Thunder was 660 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 1: a quote hot mess. So it is very very fun 661 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: to watch it, like after your first watch through, watch 662 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: it again and just watch Coco because it's very funny 663 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: shelter dog. So I was really surprised. I think my 664 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: partner and I were both like because when we found 665 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: out that from Fulton County and shelter or a lifeline 666 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: which is where Peaches is from, very excited that they 667 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: were purposely adopted for this movie. Um. And then but 668 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: that yeah, it's not a trained dog and they really 669 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: really tried, but they the dog was all over the 670 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: place and apparently he's really happy now and a good home. 671 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: And it was just like, I love that even more 672 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 1: because my dog would be that dog. You should smant 673 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 1: the you should rewatch it and just watch Cocoa because 674 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: it is very very funny knowing she was chaos and 675 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: watching it and being like, oh, I see it. Yeah, 676 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: they were all like people were like, wow, wasn't she 677 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: More often they're like, look to the point, yeah, the 678 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: thunder barely was like choose this fun dog likes the 679 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: way type of level, like not want to be unprofessional 680 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: and knowing that everybody loved this dog, but you didn't 681 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: have to act with this dog. And I've heard many 682 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 1: actors who refused to work with animals because it can 683 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: be chaotic. Yeah, yeah, well, and like I said, I 684 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: do think that everybody loved her, but it is like 685 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, when you're trying to film the scene and 686 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: cost But there's multiple scenes where I was watching up 687 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: with my friend ever Halloween when she was like, where's Cocoon? 688 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm sure they couldn't even get co 689 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: Co to do anything. So there are a couple of 690 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: scenes where you're like, where is Coco? I said that, 691 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 1: I was like, there's Isn't the dogs supposed to be? Yes? 692 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: And I can only assume it's because they were like, 693 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: we can't done, We're done, We're done. Yes, Yes, But 694 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of really fun memes about her and 695 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: stories about her if you want to look those up. Um, 696 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: and then two ends, I have a quote from Deadline. 697 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: The director puts his faith in a relative newcomer to 698 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: shoulder the movie. Women rarely get to be the heroes 699 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: of these stories, and women of color are often left 700 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: out entirely. The cast is made up of primarily indigenous 701 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: actors with a narrative that revolves solely around their lived experiences. 702 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: Tratchenberg took an unprecedented risk here and succeeded. Hopefully this 703 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: will set the standard for the genre at large. Yeah, 704 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: and as you should be. Yeah, we want to see 705 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: more of that. Absolutely. Yeah, Yeah, it's really really good. 706 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: I really really like to honestly you I could keep 707 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: going and going, but I won't. But yeah, I would 708 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: love listeners. 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