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Speaker 1: With just a couple of medical updates injuries. Devin Lloyd

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Speaker 1: the first half, tightened up on him in the second

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Speaker 1: we played made a decision as coaches that UH to

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Speaker 1: get Ventrell. In Ventrel played well, he was cleared medically

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Speaker 1: to play, but we just felt like his coaches watching

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Speaker 1: So played Ventrell, got him going, and we're currently just

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Speaker 1: it right now to see if he'll be able to

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Speaker 1: go for US this week. And then Quinton Morris as

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Speaker 1: well being evaluated for an abductor deal. His UH status

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Speaker 1: You take Devin, it's a lot of right now, right Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was working through that and see if that's going

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Speaker 1: we get some of these evaluations back today.

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Speaker 2: Take on last week. But do you expect Red and

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Speaker 2: Strange to play against Year?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah I do. Yeah, Yeah, we didn't you

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Speaker 1: know that that's gonna be the it's really gonna be

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Speaker 2: Off.

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Speaker 1: It's a line a little bit yesterday.

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Speaker 2: How do you get to the kind of acts, maybe

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Speaker 2: the level of red from the earlier games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we we knew that they had a good front

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Speaker 1: for sure, and but we definitely did not play our

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Speaker 1: the run game. But also and obviously in past protection,

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Speaker 1: We were just giving up a little bit too much

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Speaker 1: But that was actually he played pretty well, and we

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Speaker 1: him and play a little bit better. Right. That's at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day. We did not play well

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Speaker 1: enough up front, it starts there, and we did not

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Speaker 1: meet our standards of operating up front. We can help

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Speaker 1: them with some chips and stuff like that, but ultimately,

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Speaker 1: didn't meet a standard and we got to get back

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Speaker 1: to playing the game that we know. How, maybe we

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Speaker 1: got to practice a little bit more pads during the

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Speaker 1: We're trying to take care of them, especially with some

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Speaker 1: but we got to get back to playing physical and

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Speaker 1: moving the line of scrimmage, especially in the run game.

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Speaker 2: He did you bring further two tackles in particular comparatively

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we had a decent amount of chips signed.

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, we still had a lot of chips,

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Speaker 1: So I think we had a lot of chips on.

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Speaker 1: So it's always a balance to how I've been around

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Speaker 2: And as for the run game, obviously, the first four

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's no question. I mean it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: You know, the difference yesterday a little bit was they

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Speaker 1: also we've got to be better on our combinations too,

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Speaker 1: Like Seattle does a nice job of, like if you're

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's no different than some of the

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Speaker 1: those that's the consistent play that we're looking for from everybody.

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Speaker 1: A part of this thing is trying to not let

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Speaker 1: right Like, we're all gonna make mistakes or have physical

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Speaker 1: errors cut down on the mental errors, but the dips

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Speaker 1: I thought he did some really good things. Obviously, I

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Speaker 2: What do you think you might get why in the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Wyatt has gotten better in terms of more comfort

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Speaker 1: where why it fits in best, you know, helping us

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Speaker 1: Well that's the key of you know, we let the

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Speaker 1: and then they I mean, I will say that Seattle

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Speaker 1: We stopped the run the way we wanted to. We

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Speaker 1: we've got to eliminate those plays, whether it's with the

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Speaker 1: when are they gonna call these shots? And how can

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Speaker 1: we help them from a coverage standpoint. But that's our

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Speaker 1: that's the Achilles hill over the last two weeks has

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Speaker 1: been the big plays or where do you think you guys,

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Speaker 1: we just gotta we got to get a little bit

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Speaker 1: more pressure out. Here's the deal. Is they their past

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Speaker 1: were to say drop back balls coming out when they

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Speaker 1: took those shots, those were seven man max pros. We're

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Speaker 1: I thought he did some really good things as well,

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Speaker 2: When you first started working for McVay, was there a

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Speaker 2: you that said, I've never thought about that, but also, hey,

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Speaker 1: That's a damn good question. I think the project that

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Speaker 1: it was more so that overall opportunity that I had. Now,

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Speaker 1: But I think that definitely that whole opportunity to be

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Speaker 1: And that opportunity was always really cool for me. For

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Speaker 2: I guess some of the guys to get it is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do it. Was we've done it both ways,

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Speaker 1: Like I've done it both ways, going out early or

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Speaker 1: They know how to do this trip. So that gave

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Speaker 1: We did all the pros and cons from a sports

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Speaker 1: I just think we just thought it was a great

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