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Speaker 1: day from sunny southern California. Welcome in. We'll get the

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Speaker 1: football in two or so minutes. How's that two or

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Speaker 1: kind of big breaking story. We'll talk some packers, We'll

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Speaker 1: talk some chargers. We'll also talk some cowboys. Like why

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Speaker 1: talk to the cowboys? Because of the cowboys. Now you'll understand upcoming.

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Speaker 1: Let me first start with the news of the day,

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Speaker 1: the news of the moment. Bruce Pearl's retired at Auburn.

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Speaker 1: He released a video which is on social media, just

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Speaker 1: came out. I just watched it myself, and he says,

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Speaker 1: now it's time obviously if you've been following Bruce Pearl.

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Speaker 1: He has some political aspirations. Something he said in the

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Speaker 1: video which I totally understand. He said, you know, if

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Speaker 1: I told people if I couldn't stay, if I was

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent committed, was an all in did have

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Speaker 1: the same energy, then I would retire. And there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of things that people have asked me about a

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Speaker 1: one year in And for the record, I love my jobs,

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Speaker 1: both of them. I'm sitting around yesterday, I'm texting with

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Speaker 1: my players and they're so jealous because I get to

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Speaker 1: talk about football. A bunch of are Packer fans, and

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Speaker 1: you know, they want me to just evisterate everybody today,

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Speaker 1: fire everybody type thing. Not really, and we'll get to that,

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Speaker 1: but the one thing that really And Bruce's a friend.

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Speaker 1: I coached under him some with the Maccabiah, which is

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Speaker 1: the Jewish Olympics. His son Steven has not taken over,

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Speaker 1: actually played for my dad. We're good friends, so there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of ties there and I think ultimately Bruce

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Speaker 1: Pearl should be a Hall of Famer. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's close. You know, they go to two final fours

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Speaker 1: at Auburn, they win champ. I think what five SEC

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Speaker 1: championships and some some variety with the regular season or postseason.

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Speaker 1: Pretty incredible. But it's a twenty four hour job, and

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Speaker 1: for me it's twenty one. But you know, while I'm

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Speaker 1: on air, the texts are coming. Now we have a

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Speaker 1: system to where everybody knows house got to be on

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Speaker 1: fire before you text DG during the show. But the

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Speaker 1: point is that it's a you know, it's like your

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Speaker 1: and and here's the other part is now you have

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Speaker 1: additional responsibilities. People believe that all you do is coach

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Speaker 1: basketball and then do interviews, Like remember when you're a

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Speaker 1: head coach. It's different at my level, which is the

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Speaker 1: lower level than Auburn at the top of the SEC,

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Speaker 1: but it's still the same in that you have to

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Speaker 1: manage people, your staff, your players, your practices, your games,

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Speaker 1: your donors. And for me, i'm a CEO as well,

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Speaker 1: like I have to manage all of the budget for everything,

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Speaker 1: which I know Bruce essentially does. Even if you have

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Speaker 1: people who are your GM, even if you have people

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Speaker 1: higher level they help you out with those things, still

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Speaker 1: comes down to the n day, Like hey, coach, we

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Speaker 1: only have so much money. That number is much bigger

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Speaker 1: there than it is here. What do you want to

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Speaker 1: allocate it to? And then you know, if you've been

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Speaker 1: an unbelievable recruiter your whole life, you're not going to

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Speaker 1: stop recruiting. I would also tell you that though they're

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Speaker 1: now because some kids not at our level, but some

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Speaker 1: You know, they hit the portal and you got to

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Speaker 1: think it's just the current era. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: we're not. We're not there yet with him, even though

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Speaker 1: You know, when you've been doing this thing for forty years.

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Speaker 1: forty years, You're probably like, Okay, I've climbed all these mountains.

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Speaker 1: Now what All right, let's get to the National Football

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Speaker 1: League also got college football to talk about, and again,

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Speaker 1: there is probably a little piece of the college football

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Speaker 1: to it, which I'm sure turns Bruce off, turns other

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Speaker 1: You know, Dabo Sweeney was king of the world. Now

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're struggling. Do I think that

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Speaker 1: he's gotten a little bit arrogant with this process? Sure,

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Speaker 1: I think they don't recruit the same level. Sure, but Dabosweeney,

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Speaker 1: well at all. Well, I mean, something tells me that

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Speaker 1: the sport is changing and you got to adapt and

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Speaker 1: adjust or perish. Anyway, we'll circle back to that. The

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Speaker 1: the Browns beat the Packers. Why does it feel like

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Speaker 1: like that? Now? Part of it is this young roster,

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Speaker 1: but championship teams don't lose that game. Yesterday, third and three,

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Speaker 2: Well, that was extremely disappointing. Obviously, to be in a

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Speaker 2: field goal range. It's tough, it's tough to deal with,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, six fall starts, it's going to get

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Speaker 4: What did you love?

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Speaker 4: I love you and what did you hate?

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Speaker 5: Meet these player hays.

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Speaker 1: Love love love love love love love. Hey hey, hey,

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Speaker 6: Dann what he got, Doug, I loved our trip to Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: What happened before, down before, damn and eloquently talks about

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Speaker 3: is the Nightmare at O'Hare.

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Speaker 1: Oh, oh, here's the worst. Oh, here's the worst. You

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Speaker 6: We were trying to fly back Saturday, Saturday night and

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Speaker 5: Herbie's former buck guy, so you wouldn't flip him off.

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Speaker 1: Herbie's the best dude. Herby's good people. Oh no, you're

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Speaker 1: At Nightmare at Oha Oh, Charges Go Go.

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Speaker 1: kicked their own. It was did you see how seamless

434
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Speaker 1: that operation was of getting a couple more yards spiking

435
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Speaker 1: the ball now that the ref is supposed to touch it

436
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Speaker 1: before they said it, But whatever point is that the

437
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns were ready for that moment, right, ready for

438
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Speaker 1: that moment. And I, like, I can tell you you're

439
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Speaker 1: getting ready for a game, and you're worried about how

440
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: do we stop them, and how do we score? And

441
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Speaker 1: what if they do this, we call it. If this

442
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: then that, If they do this, then we do that.

443
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Speaker 1: If they do this, then we do that. Right, You're

444
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: worried about all these other things. But that team that

445
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 1: was on the field, that was in the two minute drill,

446
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Speaker 1: they were prepped and ready and executed to absolute perfection.

447
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 1: Not just a two minute but the ability to get

448
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Speaker 1: a field goal down, you know, to throw in the

449
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Speaker 1: middle field, spike the ball, get the field goal unit

450
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Speaker 1: out there, kick the field goal, win the game. And

451
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Speaker 1: I as a coach, I loved it. All. Right, let's

452
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Speaker 1: get to what we hated from the weekend plenty to

453
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Speaker 1: talk about. We go to our resident hater, Jase.

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Speaker 5: Do what you up, Doug.

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Speaker 3: I can't stand prediction radio. I've said on this so

456
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 3: many times, I know what's coming. Once I program a network,

457
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna and predictions. No predictions. It's silly, it's lazy,

458
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 3: it doesn't serve the listener. But on Friday, something really

459
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 3: neat happened. So I hate predictions. But on Friday, when

460
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 3: you weren't here, Dan Bayer and Carrie Rhoades were filling in.

461
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 3: Dan and I were doing the show from our affiliate

462
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Speaker 3: in Western New York. And I'm hoping that Dan remembers

463
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Speaker 3: the station's name, because I don't. I should have done

464
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Speaker 3: that much down.

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Speaker 5: Station thirteen forty WLVL. Oh, that could be a liner

466
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Speaker 5: right there. They could not have been more professional, amazing accommodations.

467
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Speaker 5: Thank you to Frank for that. Now, Dan went around

468
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Speaker 5: the horn during game time. It was I got DIBs,

469
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Speaker 5: and he's like, I got dis what's your upset specials?

470
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Speaker 5: What's the upset for the weekend? And something like this happened.

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Speaker 3: There are some home teams getting a lot of points

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Speaker 3: this weekend, So I'm gonna go with Cleveland getting it

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Speaker 3: looks like eight or eight and a half if you're

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Speaker 3: lucky Cleveland to beat the Packer at home with eight

475
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Speaker 3: and a half points. Wait a minute, outright or just

476
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 3: to cover that's a great question. I guess I misread

477
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Speaker 3: the question. I'm gonna go with the Browns outright, Pa,

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 3: Bottom line, I hate prediction radio until I get one right.

481
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Speaker 3: And then also I want to let the listeners know.

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Speaker 3: Did you see how clumsy I was with that prediction.

483
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Speaker 3: I didn't take it serious. I was mocking the fact

484
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Speaker 3: that we were doing predictions and I still got it right.

485
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Speaker 3: That should show you how flimsy your gambling expert analysis is.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Wow. So it's my ted talk. Uh Sam,

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Speaker 1: We'll let you go second. Let me hate it in

488
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Speaker 1: the weekend, all right?

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Speaker 5: Well, I could have hated the Packer loss on the

490
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Speaker 5: road to the Browns in Cleveland. That's a low hanging

491
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Speaker 5: fruit for me because I'm a Packer fan. I did

492
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Speaker 5: not like it, didn't care for it. I was here

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Speaker 5: at Fox Sport Trio watching it live. But I'll go

494
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Speaker 5: to something else. This is a hate based on fear.

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Speaker 5: I hate how good the Indiana Hoosiers look because they

496
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 5: come to Kinnick Stadium weekend and my goodness, the thrashing

497
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Speaker 5: that they did, the ninth ranked Illinois fighting a lion

498
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Speaker 5: and I the ali and I were in fact not

499
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Speaker 5: fighting that day. They lost? Was it sixty five to ten?

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Speaker 5: Als by fifty some points? Indiana, Indiana Hoosiers for a

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Speaker 5: second year in a row, We're like, we have the

502
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Speaker 5: Big ten has to deal with these guys. They brought

503
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Speaker 5: in the outgoes Curtis Rourke, who came in from Ohio

504
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Speaker 5: to Indiana. He brought them to the playoff last year.

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Speaker 5: In they bring in Fernando Mendoza from Cal stud and

506
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Speaker 5: this guy went twenty one of twenty three, two sixty seven,

507
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Speaker 5: five touchdowns, no picks. I watched a handful of Cal

508
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Speaker 5: games last year when he was a quarterback at you know,

509
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 5: Pack two after dark whatever they were in the ACC

510
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 5: at that point, let's just say West Coast Football after dark.

511
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Speaker 5: I don't remember him ever putting on a show like this.

512
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 5: This guy is a stud. I am fearful of what

513
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Speaker 5: the Hoosiers might do to the Hawkeyes at Kinnick Stadium

514
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Speaker 5: next Saturday. They went from like a two and a

515
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Speaker 5: half three and a half four point favorite on Sunday

516
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Speaker 5: to now they're a over a seven and a half

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Speaker 5: point favorite on the road. So wow, Indiana looks like

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Speaker 5: they haven't skipped a beat. Kurt Signetti has he is

519
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 5: a transfer portal maven and so hopefully Iowa can get

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Speaker 5: out of their own home stadium with some dignity.

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Speaker 3: Intact, hey, guys, real fast, have you guys noticed, has

522
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: there ever been a state on a bigger sports heater

523
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Speaker 3: than Indiana? Sam just eloquently put how good the Hoosiers

524
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Speaker 3: are playing? And they made the playoffs last.

525
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Speaker 1: Year, Pacers went to the finals.

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Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark and the Fever are the talk of an

527
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Speaker 3: entire sport and they just won their playoff game the

528
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Speaker 3: other day. I heard I didn't see it.

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Speaker 5: A first game in the sammis over the aces yep

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Speaker 5: after Asia Wilson took the MVP.

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Speaker 3: Culture three and oero Culture three and oh with a

532
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Speaker 3: guy that was counted out and Daniel Jones has not

533
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 3: turned the ball over once in three games. Has there

534
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Speaker 3: ever been a state on a bigger sports heater than

535
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Speaker 3: the Indiana state?

536
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Speaker 5: The state of Indian State. Indiana and Notre Dame went

537
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Speaker 5: to the went to the championship game last year, and

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00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 5: India Notre Dame probably will write the ship this year.

539
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 3: Don Dawkits is just killing folks with right little sports commentary.

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00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 5: Don and Dan and the Indians. Hell of a couple

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Speaker 5: of two years now, Hell of a couple two years.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to you there, Dan Byer.

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Speaker 6: I'm nitpicking. I'm absolutely nit picking because it was a

544
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Speaker 6: banner day yesterday for CBS Sports. All right, you guys

545
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 6: want to know why? Why was yesterday a banner day?

546
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Speaker 1: Fiftieth fiftieth anniversary of NFL today or something?

547
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 5: Doug, this is how they started their broadcast yesterday. Loved it.

548
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 8: Yes, you are looking live you how amazing In Minneapolis.

549
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 8: It's a battle of backup quarter bred Musburgers. They dressed

550
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 8: up hoping they can deliver in their seventies gear.

551
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Speaker 6: Brought that to the old set. It was magnificent. It

552
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 6: was just magnificent, Brent, the whole deal. When the Patriots

553
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 6: and Steelers played, the Patriots wore their throwback uniforms. The

554
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 6: on screen graphic used by CBS Sports was the current Patriots.

555
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 6: Oh come on, absolutely, yeah, my thoughts exactly Sam might

556
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 6: have been in the computer, might have been, but guess what.

557
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 6: Guess who else wore throwback uniforms yesterday, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

558
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 6: on Fox and guess what Fox's graphic Bucco Bruce brighton

559
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 6: orange in our face, perfectly positioned knife and teeth, and

560
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 6: CBS could not go that one millimeter more to replace

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Speaker 6: the flying Elvis with Pat Patriot. Yes, and everything was

562
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 6: great about yesterday in the throwback and honoring the fifty

563
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 6: years of CBS, and even the on site announcers were

564
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 6: dress stop ein Eagle and JJ Watt looking straight out

565
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 6: of nineteen seventy five. But that one minor detail could

566
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 6: have gone so far for CBS. They dropped the ball

567
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 6: on it. Otherwise a banner day, But let's bring back

568
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 6: Pat Patriot. If Fox can bring back Bucko Bruce, CBS

569
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 6: could do the same with another AFS with a AFC legend.

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Speaker 5: They should have had you look it over, Dan, They

571
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 5: should have had you. Yeah, nobody asked proofre it everything.

572
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 5: I was at O'Hare, freezing to death the night O'Hair.

573
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Speaker 1: I hate what's happened to college football fans and broadcasters.

574
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: Fans and broadcasts. I was watching Friday night as Oklahoma

575
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: State lost to Tulsa, and look, congrats to Tulsa all right,

576
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: they'd lost their last two. They got a new coach,

577
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: They had a backup quarterback who transferred in from I

578
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: think East Tennessee State. He played really well. Oklahoma State,

579
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: Hey look good in the first drive and then stalled

580
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: out on just about every drive until the end and

581
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: ended up losing a game at home nineteen to twelve. Now,

582
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: people free, Now, how could you lose the toll? So

583
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: look two years ago they won ten games, they lost

584
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: to South Alabama to start the season. Oka these things happened.

585
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: What I hate is this, What was the point of

586
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: Mike Gundy being awesome for fifteen years? Now, of a sudden,

587
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: we're paying players and it it clearly they've had a

588
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: trouble adjusting.

589
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Speaker 7: Right.

590
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Speaker 1: Last year they had a seventh year quarterback who won

591
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: very good. The line they kept six year lignemen like,

592
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Speaker 1: they kept their whole line from that ten win team,

593
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: and they just weren't that good and they kind of

594
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: got exposed. Everybody else got better. And then this year

595
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: he revamped everything. There's something called sweat equity, and we've

596
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: completely lost it. Let me explain to people, Okay, there

597
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: was no Oklahoma State football before less miles and then

598
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: Mike Gundy. Okay, you had a couple of years there

599
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: where when you had Gundy in college and Hartley Dykes

600
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: and Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas, right, they were also

601
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Speaker 1: they got put on probation, so they were cheating at

602
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: that time. Okay, And this program was built. And look,

603
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here defending Gundhy like he's Perfectay, but

604
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: he won ten games two years ago at the place

605
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Speaker 1: and they lost to South Alabama. They have a backup quarterback,

606
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: they have a whole new staff. It's a completely different

607
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: way of doing business. My guess is ultimately he'll figure

608
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: it out. But this idea that things go bad and

609
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, by the way, no one has ever said like, hey,

610
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: how much does it cost. They all say, well, it's

611
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Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars to get rid of him. That's not

612
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Speaker 1: how much it is to get redove him. The two

613
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: coordinators have three year deals at a million dollars apiece. Okay,

614
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: so that's six million dollars, or it'll be four million

615
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: dollars ode to each of them. I've been told it's

616
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: like fifteen million dollars to get the staff. That's thirty million. Okay.

617
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: Then all these players have to be compensated. I've heard

618
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: it's fourteen million, so fifteen, fifteen, fifteen, here're somewhere in

619
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Speaker 1: the forty five million dollar range, right, maybe a little

620
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: bit more because you're still paying that staff for this year. Okay,

621
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Speaker 1: then you gotta go get a new staff that's fifteen million,

622
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna get a new team. Well, this is

623
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Speaker 1: a fourteen million dollar team. Next year's team will be

624
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Speaker 1: a twenty million dollar team. They don't have the money.

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00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: You're talking about things that don't exist. So if you

626
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Speaker 1: want to write a check for eighty million dollars, then

627
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: by god, you can tell my gun to you built

628
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: this program from basically scratch. Okay, that he can. He

629
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: can go and right off into the sunset with those

630
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Speaker 1: But and by the way, he gonna take every penny. Right,

631
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Speaker 1: So I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm just saying we

632
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: get to this thing like people want Dabbo out like

633
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: he's it's like he's right. Was eight out of ten

634
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: years they won the league? Like what are we doing?

635
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: It's a completely The sport has been turned on its head,

636
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: turned on its head. People can compete that never could

637
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: previously compete because they have money and they can spend

638
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: it freely, and you have to adjust to how things

639
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: are done, and it takes guys a while. But usually

640
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: if you knew what you're doing before, you're gonna know

641
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: what you're doing now. It just takes a little while

642
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: to adjust, or maybe you don't. But I just hate

643
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: this knee jerk lose a game. Let's fire him. Let

644
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: the season play out, and let's see.

645
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Speaker 5: What's what makes me want to beat.

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00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: Well? All right? And that is love and hate.

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Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's a weird feeling that Jason Stewart and I have

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Speaker 1: weird feeling. What's that weird feeling? You ask, Well, I

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Speaker 1: mean clemsoning became charging, right, Charging became a word used

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Speaker 1: for a team that should very well win a game,

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Speaker 1: that finds a way to lose a game, right, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's just what happened. And you've had playoff

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Speaker 1: appearances that both the past two coaches with the Chargers

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Speaker 1: not like they've been completely inapt, but with harbaught it

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Speaker 1: definitely changed. Here's John, Uh John. Here's Jim Harbaugh, head

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Speaker 1: coach of the Chargers, after their three no start, talking

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Speaker 1: about his quarterback Justin Herbert. All right, all right, we'll

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Speaker 1: get you that. We'll get you that one second for.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, like, look, the it's just a weird

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Speaker 1: thing to watch a franchise that has been known for

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Speaker 1: a losing game finding ways to lose games instead now

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Speaker 1: finding ways to win games. Right, That's that's the easiest

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Speaker 1: way to explain. It is strange awesome. Here here's Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: on Herbert.

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Speaker 9: I don't I don't think I had the vocabulary to,

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Speaker 9: uh to really express how great I feel uh with

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Speaker 9: this win and and uh just admiration for for our

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Speaker 9: team and for our players and coaches. In't just everybody.

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Speaker 9: It's just another game. Three wins, three uh three games,

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Speaker 9: and it's taken every buddy in all these games. So,

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Speaker 9: I mean, gritty, spectacular, That's about the best word I

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Speaker 9: can I.

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Speaker 1: Can come up with. He was he was gritty, he

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Speaker 1: was spectacular, And it's weird. Like I found myself on

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Speaker 1: Herbert Island last year, where I was trying to He

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Speaker 1: was bad in the playoffs, but they had no pass

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Speaker 1: protection at all and he had nobody to throw to.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 1: So the pass protection wasn't great yesterday. But he does

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Speaker 1: have now he's got Keenan Allen back who's making plays

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Speaker 1: from another touchdown reception lab. But Conky's awesome. The rookie

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Speaker 1: tight end's good. Yeah, one of his two running backs

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Speaker 1: blew out his achilles. But the rookies a stud. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's a plan there, there's a confidence there, and maybe

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Speaker 1: it's harbo. I mean, Herbert was playing well last year.

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Speaker 1: Just nobody's watching. Now they're up to three no start

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Speaker 1: a couple of nationally televised games. People are watching like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, justin Rubert really is good. Yeah, we those

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Speaker 1: of us who know, we've known for a long time,

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Speaker 1: for a long time. Let's let's let's do this. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to uh, let's get to our Tyrecht play to day,

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Speaker 1: shall we? All right? The other team that again just

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Speaker 1: finds ways to win games is the Eagles. They just

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Speaker 1: find ways to win games. You know, they weren't great

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Speaker 1: against the Cowboys foin way to win, weren't great against

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Speaker 1: Chiefs Boin waid to win. Weren't great yesterday should have

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Speaker 1: a point rams getting ready to kick a game winning

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Speaker 1: field goal on the road place they played last year

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Speaker 1: in terrible weather fuelgal kicker had just had a sixty

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Speaker 1: one yard or block thirty eight yard are on the way.

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Speaker 1: Here's the call on the Eagles radio network. They blocked

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Speaker 1: him the last time the bullet spotted.

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Speaker 5: The kick is away blocked.

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Speaker 1: It's blocked. It's bucked up by the Eagles wanting what

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Speaker 1: that is?

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Speaker 8: Davis thirty twenty ten five touchdown game over?

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Speaker 1: Cheorge Davis?

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Speaker 5: Are you drinking?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 1: Blocked him again? Are you crining? Loan to him again?

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Speaker 7: Happy one?

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Speaker 1: No seen on anything like this? Do you believe in miracles?

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Speaker 8: The lambs are standing silent, they can't believe.

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Speaker 1: What just happened to them. That's our tyrack play of

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Speaker 1: the day, Merril Rees touchdown on Eagles, that's h And

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Speaker 1: then he would blatant rip off again. Do you believe

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Speaker 1: in miracles? Nobody said yes. Uh well, last time to

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Speaker 1: Lasco about his old team. The Chargers were asking about

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Speaker 1: the Eagles were asking about Justin Herbert. We got lots

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Speaker 1: of questions for Tommy. He joins us every week. That's

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Speaker 1: in a moment first, so let me get you Dan byer,

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Speaker 1: get you quick update on everything in sports. Dan.

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Speaker 6: My other favorite part was he said that you've never

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Speaker 6: seen this or what I'm paraphrasing, but we saw it

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Speaker 6: earlier in the game, and then we also saw it

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Speaker 6: two other times in Week three with dramatic field goal blocks.

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Speaker 1: Now I do feel I do feel like there's a

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Speaker 1: Seinfeld line and they're like, well, what's the deal with

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Speaker 1: all the block field goals?

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Speaker 6: It was crazy. The Oprah one, you get a block,

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Speaker 6: you get a block with.

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Speaker 1: Oh I like that one too, and you get a

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Speaker 1: block and you got a block.

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Speaker 6: Everybody that one, Yeah, yes, absolutely, Browns, Jets, Eagles, oh my,

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Speaker 6: they uh yeah, crazy. It all happened within like a

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Speaker 6: twenty minute period. It was crazy.

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Speaker 1: It was I mean this, Jason, you can got guys.

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Speaker 1: My way is Jason, I said that was Yesterday was

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Speaker 1: the greatest day in the history of Red Zone. Like

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright, you can say what you want about adults

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Speaker 1: don't watch red Zone to watch a game. I might

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Speaker 1: be maybe I'm a child. I'm sitting there screaming at

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Speaker 1: the top of my lungs. It was so good, so good.

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Speaker 1: Red Zone was amazing yesterday. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio and every week we're

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Speaker 1: just so excited to be joined by Tom Tolesco last

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Speaker 1: twelve years, been a general manager eleven years with the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: last year with the Raiders, and he gives us his

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Speaker 1: unique perspective what a general manager is actually thinking, looking

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Speaker 1: a lifetime football guy when he's watching this NFL season

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Speaker 1: play out. Tom, thanks so much for joining us. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with last night Giants Chiefs. So the Chiefs win,

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Speaker 1: but there's lots of different takeaways. Let's start with the Giants.

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Speaker 1: How does Russell Wilson And I guess maybe Cowboys defense

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Speaker 1: is the answer, But how does he go from how

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Speaker 1: he looked in game two to how he looked in

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Speaker 1: Game three and then the decisions he's making at the

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Speaker 1: end of his third game with the Giants. What's the

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Speaker 1: general manager's view of Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, number one, you touched on it already. I

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Speaker 7: mean last week against the Cowboys, the Cowboys.

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Speaker 10: Just aren't real strong on defense, and Russell Wilson, I mean,

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Speaker 10: Russell's one. He's he's a great one and he has

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Speaker 10: been and a lot of times great ones.

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Speaker 7: They can recharge for a game, or recharge for a

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Speaker 7: game or two, but to do it consistently at this

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Speaker 7: point of his career, it's just it's a challenge. So

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Speaker 7: and I'm assuming the Giants kind to know this was

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Speaker 7: coming because it's just, you know, Brussel has been on

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Speaker 7: since third team in three years, so they could have

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Speaker 7: had the expectation that you would give them a winning starter,

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Speaker 7: winning starter or play for seventeen games. But you know,

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Speaker 7: he played well against the Cowboys last week, but different

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Speaker 7: defense yesterday with the Chiefs. The Chiefs have a really

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Speaker 7: strong defense, they're aggressive, they take some things away, and

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Speaker 7: then you know, just you know it's going to be

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Speaker 7: an issue. Whether it's Jackson Darter, whether it's Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 7: the Giants offensive line. It is just they're struggling right

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Speaker 7: now and it's it's the same five as last year

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty four, So I can't see it changing

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Speaker 7: much moving forward. And that's that's that worries me. Just

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Speaker 7: whoever the quarterback is, it worries me once start gets

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Speaker 7: in there, because Dart's going to be in there at

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Speaker 7: some point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. What about the Chiefs? You know, you

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Speaker 1: had a little dust up with Andy Reid and Kelsey

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Speaker 1: that that I don't know your view on that, but

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Speaker 1: they continue to be down wide receivers and like I

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Speaker 1: get you're not. You're just not going to get a

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Speaker 1: pathetic opponent like the Giants offense every week. What's now

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Speaker 1: that you've seen the Chiefs three times? What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the the Andy Reid sideline thing with Kelsey, that

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Speaker 7: doesn't concern me at all. We've seen that before. And

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Speaker 7: I will say the second half the Chiefs played with

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Speaker 7: much more enthusiasm, intensity, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 7: It looked different in the second half. So whatever we've

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Speaker 7: talked about at halftime, whatever we're talking about in the

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Speaker 7: sidelines in between series. It worked because I.

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Speaker 10: Was just overalled that game last night just didn't have a.

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Speaker 7: Lot of juice to it. I mean from a fans standpoint,

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Speaker 7: you know it was boring the boring side, from the

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Speaker 7: GM standpoint, there's a lot of things you can take

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Speaker 7: out of it. But but you saw a different Chiefs

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Speaker 7: team in the second half. But you know, offensively, they

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Speaker 7: still have the same issues. They've got the issues at

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Speaker 7: both tackle spots and I think Josh Simmons, they're left tackle.

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Speaker 7: He's going to be good in time, but he's a rookie.

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Speaker 7: And the receivers just aren't quite creating the same separation

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Speaker 7: as you would like. But they found a way to win,

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Speaker 7: and that's kind of the way they roll. And they

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Speaker 7: played better in the second half, and they're a good

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Speaker 7: defensive team and that's what they're gonna have to rely

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Speaker 7: on a little bit as the offense continues to come around.

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Speaker 7: It's kind of cool to see Taekwan Thornton really have

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Speaker 7: a nice game. He's an interesting player in college, like

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Speaker 7: he's he's tall but very skinny, like he was probably

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Speaker 7: in the low one eighties when he was in college,

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Speaker 7: but has big time speed, and he's a really good

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Speaker 7: route runner, and sometimes it's hard to find those those

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Speaker 7: fast receivers that have really good route skills and he

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Speaker 7: has that. So he's getting acclimated with their offense and

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Speaker 7: getting acclimated with Patrick Mahomes, and he could be somebody

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Speaker 7: as we moved through the season, could really help them out.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to your former team, the Chargers. One of

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Speaker 1: the former teams, the Chargers, and the plays look justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert came through and it's amazing what Harbaugh has been

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Speaker 1: able to do with the mentality, right. I mean, as

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Speaker 1: a Charger fan and a friend of yours, I think

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Speaker 1: the frustrating part for it didn't happen every year because

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Speaker 1: there were some playoff years, but it did seem like

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Speaker 1: there was the more often than not, there was the

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Speaker 1: games that you felt like you should have won, that

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Speaker 1: you found a way to lose, whereas last night or

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Speaker 1: yesterday it was a game which very well could have

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Speaker 1: lost and they found a way to win. How has

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Speaker 1: that switch been triggered?

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you what. When I was with the Raiders,

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Speaker 7: we opened with the Chargers last year in Hartrot's first game,

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Speaker 7: and just being the opponent. I could feel a difference

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Speaker 7: on their sideline. You know, I know it's very subjective,

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Speaker 7: but I could feel it. But you know, Justin Herbert

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Speaker 7: put on the cape yesterday. You and I have both

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Speaker 7: seen since the rookie year that he's capable of doing that.

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Speaker 7: I get for some of the media, I feel like

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Speaker 7: this is the new Justin Herbert, but not it's just

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Speaker 7: the same Justin Herbert. But he had a really good.

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Speaker 10: Team around him, and I think they're rook You know.

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Speaker 7: Marion Hampton, He's a perfect running back for their offense.

861
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 7: He's just an absolute hammer. They've got a rocky tight

862
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 7: end and ron Day Gatston who is active yesterday, and

863
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 7: he gives them a receiving thread at tight end, which

864
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 7: they haven't had in the last couple of years, really

865
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Speaker 7: haven't had since Hunter Henry. So the offense is getting

866
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 7: starting to get moving. The defense is really strong, and

867
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 7: like you said, like they've played really situational sound football yesterday.

868
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Speaker 7: And on the flip side, Sean Payton teams have always

869
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 7: mastered situational football. That's one of his hallmarks. But for

870
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 7: the second week in a row, they didn't quite get it.

871
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 7: I mean, they had the Broncos had a lot of

872
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 7: penalties yesterday. They just had some plays in the fourth

873
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 7: quarter the last two weeks that don't translate the winning

874
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 7: which you don't usually see because I think the Broncos

875
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 7: have an excellent team. They got stars on our team,

876
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 7: especially in defense with Nick Bonito, Zach Allen, Patrick Sartan.

877
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 7: But the Chargers just they willed it through in the

878
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 7: fourth quarter. And I give a lot of credit to

879
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 7: that coaching staff and the players they brought in. They

880
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 7: got a really good football team.

881
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Speaker 1: Tom let's go our guest here on the Dug Out

882
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Speaker 1: Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's sprinkle around the

883
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: rest of the rest of the league. I don't remember

884
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: a team blocking two field goals in one game, let

885
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Speaker 1: alone in the same quarter, and the second one was

886
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: a manageable one, So usually it's not even a question

887
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: that no one has a chance. What's going on that?

888
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Speaker 1: Jason Stewart, my producer, said something kind of brilliant to

889
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Speaker 1: me before the show. He's like, there's two things happening. Once.

890
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: Sixty plus yard field goals are kind of the norm,

891
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: not the exception, and yet block field goals are a

892
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: little bit more normal. What's going on with the kicking game, Well.

893
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 7: I might I have to see the tape of I

894
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 7: want to see how they I mean, I know they

895
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 7: blocked it from the inside. I want to see where

896
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 7: the leakers came from to come between the snapper and

897
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 7: the guard or the guard and the tackle. But the

898
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 7: Eagles have some big, powerful men up front. And not

899
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 7: that that was a long kick. Typically that the.

900
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 10: Longer kicks the ball coming a little.

901
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 7: Bit lower and you do have a chance to block

902
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 7: it up the middle. But that wasn't that extraordinarily long

903
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 7: a kick. But yeah, I mean it's early in the season.

904
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Speaker 7: This is where you tend to see some special teams mistakes,

905
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 7: whether it's on returns with some fumbles, muff punts, or

906
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 7: block field goals.

907
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Speaker 10: They tend to even out over time of of course

908
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 10: of the season.

909
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 7: But the Eagles are just a really well rounded football team.

910
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 7: They do what they have to do to win a game.

911
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 10: I thought the Rams and for the really second straight year, Chris.

912
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 7: Shulaz, that coordinator defensive coordinator for the Rams, didn't that

913
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 7: outstanding job against the Eagles last year, did a really

914
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 7: good job against him yesterday until the fourth quarter, and

915
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 7: then the Eagles look, they I think.

916
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Speaker 10: They would like to run the ball, but in the end,

917
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 10: like if we have to throw it, we'll throw it.

918
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Speaker 7: And they do it really well. You know, Hurst through

919
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 7: for over two hundred yards and they made some plays

920
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 7: with the receivers and then you know, special teams comes

921
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 7: up with two big block kicks. So it's Eagles really

922
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 7: have a full football team offense, defense, special teams. You

923
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 7: saw that yesterday. They had to use it all, but

924
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 7: it was it was interesting to see how well the

925
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 7: Eagles kind of got the passing game going when they

926
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Speaker 7: had to get it going.

927
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Speaker 1: Where are you on the touch push?

928
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Speaker 7: I can't stand it. I can't stand it, but you

929
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 7: know my stance hasn't changed on it. I don't like

930
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 7: to play. I think it's a boring play and I

931
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 7: think if you watch how still the old line in

932
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Speaker 7: D line get up after the play, you can see

933
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 7: how taxing it is on their bodies. But to me,

934
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Speaker 7: the biggest thing it has nothing to do with how

935
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 7: good the Eagles are at it. I just don't think

936
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Speaker 7: it's an equitable play between the offense and the defense.

937
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 7: And a lot of it's because the offense gets forward progress,

938
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Speaker 7: so you know they can push as far as they can,

939
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 7: they get the further spot that the football goes. But

940
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 7: at the defense, if they push the runner back as

941
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 7: far as they can, you know that runner gets forward progress,

942
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 7: you know, no matter where the whistle was blown, So

943
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 7: they don't get the same spot. So I just think

944
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Speaker 7: it's an imbalance between the two sides that have that play.

945
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Speaker 7: I don't get caught up in people trying to penalize

946
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Speaker 7: the Eagles. I mean back in the nineteen seventies when

947
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 7: the Steelers and Raiders used to beat up receivers all

948
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 7: over the field, and it just wasn't good for the game.

949
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 7: It wasn't very visually pleasing, kind of competively imbalanced. You know,

950
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 7: they made the change in the secondary that you can't

951
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 7: do that, and it really wasn't even dead against those

952
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 7: two teams. It's just, you know, we're trying to find

953
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 7: a better brand of football. So I'm hoping they voted

954
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 7: out moving forward and has nothing to do with how

955
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 7: the good Eagles are And I just think it's a

956
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 7: it's a boring play to watch.

957
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: Okay, Kayler Williams. There's four touchdowns do interceptions. But we

958
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: started by talking about the Cowboys as you said not

959
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: very strong on defense, Senator, that's very well said. Right,

960
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: that's incredibly they I can say that that is a

961
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 1: bad defense. Right now they are lost. So how seriously

962
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: can we take Caleb William's numbers considering he's playing against

963
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: a team that just last weekend Russell Wilson looked like

964
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Speaker 1: Johnny Unitis.

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Speaker 7: Look, you have to kind of take this as a

966
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 7: big body to work and not just go week to week.

967
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Speaker 7: But obviously it's it's a positive yesterday. I just think

968
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Speaker 7: with Caleb, like, you know, his game is completely different

969
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 7: than Jared Goff's. So you know, Ben Johnson isn't going

970
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 7: to walk into the Bear and just run a duplication

971
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Speaker 7: of the Lion's offense. He can't like the receivers, the

972
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Speaker 7: tight ends, the offensive line, the quarterbacks. Certainly they have

973
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 7: different skill sets. So I just think as you move

974
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 7: through this season, you have to have some patience. Is

975
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 7: going to take some time for both the quarterback and

976
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 7: the head coach to get a feel for each other

977
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 7: and for Ben to get a feel for what is

978
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Speaker 7: Caleb really good at. You know, the Bear they ran

979
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 7: the ball a lot yesterday. Now they didn't get a

980
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 7: ton of yards from it, but at least they kept

981
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 7: the pass rush at Bay a little bit, and the

982
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 7: Cowboys don't have a great pass rush right now anyways.

983
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 7: But you know, he Caleb had a lot of define throws,

984
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 7: and I don't know if Caleb was ever going to

985
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 7: be a anticipate windows opening and release it and with

986
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 7: ball placement, but if you can see a receiver like

987
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 7: a defined read and see the open receiver, he's got

988
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 7: the big time arm talent to drill the ball in there,

989
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 7: and plus he has the skills to go off schedule

990
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 7: and run around and me be a magician. So I

991
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 7: think it's just both just trying to get a feel

992
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 7: for the offense what he's really good at and what

993
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 7: they to keep improving on. But certainly with a step

994
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 7: in the right direction for the Bears this weekend.

995
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: I would concur with that Lions tonight against the Ravens.

996
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: What's the biggest difference you've noticed in the play calling

997
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: and the offense.

998
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 10: I can't take away yet, but there's definitely there's just

999
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 10: going to.

1000
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 7: Be changes for the Lions, obviously, and I think there's

1001
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 7: going to be a great test to see where they

1002
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 7: are on both sides the ball with both coordinators because

1003
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 7: to me, the Ravens have the most complete team in

1004
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 7: the league, so both sides, offense and defense, So I

1005
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 7: know there are lines are trying to run a lot

1006
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 7: of the same things, which is good to me. They

1007
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 7: have a system that works. But anytime there's a new

1008
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 7: person in that chair, you know the game plan is

1009
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 7: going to be a little bit different, and then the

1010
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Speaker 7: game day play calling is going to be a little

1011
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Speaker 7: bit different. It's just the nature of it. So it's

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Speaker 7: still early in the year. I don't have any major

1013
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Speaker 7: takeaways yet, but I'm curious tonight to watch how they

1014
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Speaker 7: can handle the Ravens because the Ravens, to me or

1015
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Speaker 7: even though they have some injuries on defense tonight, the

1016
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Speaker 7: Ravens are loaded on both sides, are really well coached,

1017
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Speaker 7: so it's gonna be a great test for the lines tonight.

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Speaker 1: Tommy, thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 7: Hey, thanks Doug.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my pleasures all ours. That's Tom to LESCo, former

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Speaker 1: gentle manager of the Bolts and the Raiders, and he's

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1024
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Speaker 1: how incredible my takes are, or I mean, if we

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Speaker 1: really want to get down to it, how good the

1032
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Speaker 1: the scruff is looking like. I just today is a

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Speaker 1: really good scruff day. I don't know what that's about.