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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, how we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too. Our number two. I am a little embarrassed.

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Speaker 2: I confused Gail Sayers with John Riggins, but you.

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Speaker 3: Know, not very similar except for except for their alma

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Speaker 3: modern Nay style is not very similar.

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Speaker 2: No, not a lot of similarities there. My mind just

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Speaker 2: automatically went the best Kansas football player of all time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's got to be Gail Sayers, right, our number two here,

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Speaker 2: we are going to get to some of your tweets.

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Speaker 2: We are going to take a look our guy, Dane

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Speaker 2: Brugler releasing his first post Super Bowl mock draft, and

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Speaker 2: I loved how it fell for the Pittsburgh Steelers. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into that here in our number two, but Matt,

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Speaker 2: I want to start with just a kind of I

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Speaker 2: guess thirty thousand foot view of the Seattle Seahawks. We

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Speaker 2: know they're Super Bowl champions now, second time in history

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Speaker 2: of that organization. They've now been to three in the

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Speaker 2: last eleven years, and the first two I think much

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Speaker 2: different than this way different. And it's not even no

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Speaker 2: carryover at all. It's not like the Brady Patriots where

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Speaker 2: they won three and then had that stretch and then

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Speaker 2: Brady came back with a different cast and.

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Speaker 3: It's a new coach, it's a new quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Everything, I knew everything except for the GM that that

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Speaker 2: we mentioned earlier, John Schneider, and so thirty thousand foot

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Speaker 2: view of building a champion, Matt, I think obviously, and

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Speaker 2: you correct me if I'm wrong, But having this conversation

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Speaker 2: with Seattle feels like it has to start in the trenches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think so. So I found it interesting.

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Speaker 3: There's something we mentioned a couple times leading up to

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. These were two of the highest spending

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Speaker 3: offseason teams, but for much different reasons. It's New England

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Speaker 3: needed a lot of stuff, and they had a lot

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Speaker 3: They had.

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Speaker 2: A lot of caps to you go and grab Milton

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Speaker 3: The Super Bowl champion Ea Morgan moses, Yes, you know

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Speaker 3: a lot of different things because they needed a lot

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Speaker 3: of different things, and like Tennessee is the most cap

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Speaker 3: space this upcoming year, they need a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 3: They might be the highest spending team and there's nowhere

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Speaker 3: they shouldn't go except for quarterback basically kind of like

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Speaker 3: New England, which I think that tells you that they

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Speaker 3: probably tried to run before they could walk, which reminds

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Speaker 3: me of the Commanders last year or too. Like Commanders

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Speaker 3: were a Final four team after being one of the

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Speaker 3: worst teams in the league, and then they went all

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Speaker 3: in on like Tunsel and Debo, it's like that you're

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Speaker 3: not that you're not as close as the results tell you. Now,

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Speaker 3: the Patriots are so way ahead of schedule. Good for them,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, they have a quarterback, but they

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Speaker 3: still have a lot of needs on offense to me,

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Speaker 3: and I think that was exasperated last night. Where Seattle

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Speaker 3: had a pretty nice foundation and a lot of their

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Speaker 3: off speeds of spending was becuse they went and got

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Speaker 2: It was like one play. It was like one play, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in a quarterback hundred million dollar contract. That's gonna inflate

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Speaker 3: They also took dk Metcalf off the books, and Gino's

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Speaker 3: made off the books. Just didn't come into that equation.

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Speaker 3: That's just free agent spending, not we dumped a lot

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Speaker 2: Too, signed which wasn't a massive deal, but they signed Cooper.

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Speaker 3: And I mean a couple of pieces like every team does.

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Speaker 3: But it wasn't like they were boy, they just built

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Speaker 3: this championship overnight. To me, if you go to draftistory

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Speaker 3: dot com and pull up Seattle, a lot of this

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Speaker 3: starts with the Russell Wilson trade. I mean, they had

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Speaker 3: and they hit on all. I mean, this is so

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Speaker 3: much of this is built through the draft. Now, there's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe he brought some culture with him, but

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Speaker 3: really the trade of Wilson opened the doors up, because

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Speaker 3: They're all hits, all hits. All their early picks for

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Speaker 2: Guns n' roses. Just hit after her, right out of it,

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Speaker 3: You can pull two or three starters out of every draft.

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Speaker 3: But they're they're pulling multiples, and a lot of those

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Speaker 2: I mean, Matt And then they hit on guys like

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Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant and Reek wooland yeah, day three in the

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Speaker 2: back of the draft. Yeah, in the twenty twenty two draft,

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Speaker 2: this could go down as one of the better draft

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Speaker 2: take out the caveat of like drafting your long term

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Speaker 3: Mahomes was a great draft.

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Speaker 2: It's a great draft no matter what, because you got packed. Yes,

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Speaker 2: But in twenty twenty two, Charles Cross, Boye Maffey, Kenneth Walker,

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Speaker 3: Wooland Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's five high level starters in one draft.

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Speaker 3: Like the same set of draft like that with like

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Speaker 3: They had like five legit starters and I think they

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Speaker 2: But you're I mean, you're right. Pretty much every year

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Speaker 2: since twenty twenty two they've had multiple second round picks.

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Speaker 2: They've made four or five picks before pick one hundred.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know a lot of it's because of the

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Speaker 3: it just you know, it raises the floor dramatically. It

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Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, having those guys, you know, producing like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're not set to lose a lot this year,

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Speaker 3: but I would think in the coming years it's going

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Speaker 3: to get tough to keep people. Oh, ye mean absolutely.

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Speaker 3: You got to keep replying it, right, It's.

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Speaker 2: What just kind of happened to the Eagles last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Eagles didn't let Milton Williams walk to New England

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Speaker 2: one of the best young defensive tackles in the league.

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Speaker 3: We were talking about him that they just for the

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Speaker 2: They could only feed so many mouths on that roster.

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Speaker 3: Carter and Jordan Davis and right, Yeah, eventually, Carter, Eventually

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Speaker 3: we have to play Quintin Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: Eventually I'm gonna have to play Cooper Dejean.

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Speaker 3: You know, nobody noticed because he went to Arizona, but

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Speaker 3: had a great year for the Cardinals, but nobody noticed

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Speaker 2: That's the double edged sword of having success in a

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Speaker 3: But if you get Super Bowl, nothing else matter.

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Speaker 2: Nothing else matter, Right, if you're the Eagles, does it

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Speaker 2: suck that you had to let Milton Williams walk?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But you'll take a super Bowl in a third

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Speaker 2: pick your right. If that's the cost, great, if that's

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Speaker 2: the cost, outstanding. And Matt, I think especially you know,

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Speaker 2: a lot in terms of roster building with the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: But you mentioned this earlier. I think it applies now.

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Speaker 2: Extra pieces in the trenches, you know, like getting a

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Speaker 3: Sack and he's just role player, kind of an inning

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Speaker 2: You know, you know they they draft someone like Byron

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Speaker 2: That I think is another because we know the Steelers

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Speaker 2: and there's been much there's there my Broderick Jones, I

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Speaker 2: But I think we all think Fraser McCormick, Faltanu or

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Speaker 3: If you get three four, that's a really good hit rate.

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Speaker 2: And then you just get greedy and you add one

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Speaker 2: more right defensive line. Now, Derek Harmon feels like a

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Speaker 3: In the trenches in those positions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, have seven instead of six, you know, have six

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Speaker 2: big thing in the trenches. We saw that from the Eagles,

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Speaker 3: And like Dale, when I talked about this a time

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Speaker 3: after the Steelers took McCormick, it was like they didn't

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Speaker 3: really need that was one extra. Yeah, he was definitely

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Speaker 3: one extra at that point.

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Speaker 2: He was he was eighth offensive lineman going to the camp.

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Speaker 3: one more. Now you know this better than I do,

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Speaker 3: and it's way easier to pull off in college. But

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Speaker 1: You were two weeks about Drive on your twenty four

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Speaker 2: All right, well, you know the drill, folks. Today is

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Speaker 2: But you folks know what that means. You've been tweeting

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Speaker 3: Obviously the draft orders and.

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Speaker 2: some time this weekend too, trying to learn some pronunciations,

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00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 2: because you and I both struggle with that.

438
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some tough ones.

439
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,439
Speaker 2: There's some tough ones, especially for guys that are going

440
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 2: to be talked about a lot here in the next

441
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Speaker 2: few weeks, in the next few months. Francis Maui and

442
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 2: goa I believe is how we pronounces it. According to

443
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 2: again the University of Miami. Pronunciation guy Maui, and goa

444
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 2: Francis Maui and goa offensive tackle off the boy. Third

445
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 2: overall to the Arizona Cardinals, of course, from the national

446
00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 2: champion runner up.

447
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 3: Miami's turn a little bit of no man's land. So

448
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 3: take a tackle and you know, maybe he's not Joe

449
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 3: alt as a prospect, but.

450
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: Him and Paris Johnson could be set next for a

451
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 2: long time. Number four Tennessee Titans edge rusher David Bailey

452
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 2: out of Texas Tech would be a little bit. I mean,

453
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 2: he's going to go top ten, but I feel like

454
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 2: for the most part he's been seven, eight, nine ten

455
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 2: in these drafts.

456
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 3: This isn't a great year to pick in this neighborhood.

457
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 2: It's not.

458
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: It's not usually there's better prospects at this point.

459
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 2: This guy is one of the more intriguing prospects in

460
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 2: the entire draft. Caleb Downs, the safety out of Ohio State,

461
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 2: goes fifth overall to the New York Giants.

462
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 3: So Downs, I wonder if him and Love the running

463
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 3: back for Notre Dame. I love because there's not supreme

464
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 3: receivers edge tackles compared to most years did they get.

465
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 3: Are they more likely to be top eight, top ten

466
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 3: picks than they would have been had there been two

467
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 3: or three quarterbacks. I think the answer is definitely yes. Yes,

468
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 3: that this year you might just say I'll take the

469
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 3: leadoff double and take the safety you're running back. That

470
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: maybe isn't the best, you know, position value monetary move,

471
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 3: but he's maybe the best player in the draft.

472
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: The shooting guard's going to score me twenty points a game.

473
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, And I know I can get them, but

474
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 3: I'll take it.

475
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: You know.

476
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Caleb Downs I think definitely fits that bill. I'm

477
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 2: not saying he wouldn't be worthy of a top five pick.

478
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 3: I think he's.

479
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: Very good ballhawk playmaker. But he and other years could

480
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: last till closer to twenty one of those years where

481
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 2: there's five quarterbacks taken in the top fifteen.

482
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 3: Said the same thing about Kyle Hamilton at this point too.

483
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 3: He's a rare safety prospect, and I think that they

484
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 3: took him at.

485
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: Fourteen fourteen like that, Yeah, which in another year could

486
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 2: easily be the range for Downs. Yeah, in another year,

487
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: we could be talking about, Hey, if Caleb Downs is

488
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: still on the board at fifteen or sixteen, would you

489
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 2: think about trading up a few pick, you know, using

490
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: one of those third round picks and going and get

491
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: you know, your your your secondary playmaker to plug in

492
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: there for a long time.

493
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 3: He's an intriguing one. Something that will also help him dramatically.

494
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 3: And I meant to mention this with any Moore is

495
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: if he can be that true big slot. I just

496
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 3: don't know enough about the prospect yet because just so

497
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: early in the process, I assume he can come out

498
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 3: and play that role as well as deep middle like

499
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: I mean that big slot, deep defender, do it all.

500
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: Dejene Hamilton type guy. The league's gonna start paying more

501
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 3: for those guys.

502
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: Number six the Cleveland Browns, they go to the offensive line.

503
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: Take Spencer Fanu out of Utah.

504
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: I would go o line like crazy of him. Yeah.

505
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: Number seven the Commanders they go with the other kind

506
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: of consensus top ten edge rusher Reuben Bain Junior out

507
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: of Miami Washinghu need they need young, young talent on

508
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: that defense. That would make a lot of sense. Number

509
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,239
Speaker 2: eight New Orleans they take Jeremiah Love, the Notre Dame

510
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: running back.

511
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean again safe bet, I would think shuck

512
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 3: would be very happy about it. Great receiver. I mean,

513
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,239
Speaker 3: if he was not a great receiver, I would have

514
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 3: problems with that. You knower.

515
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: Nine. That now gives the Kansas City Chiefs Matt the

516
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: option to take the first wide receiver off the board,

517
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 2: and they take Carnell Tate out of Ohio State. Three

518
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 2: Buckeyes in the top nine. Wow, here in this mock

519
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs get I'm sure they would be salivating

520
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 2: over the possibility of drafting wide receiver number one in

521
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 2: this class.

522
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 3: I was listening to Todd's most recent podcast before this

523
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 3: came out, and he did somewhat of a mail bag

524
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 3: and somebody asked him in the top ten how many

525
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 3: It was something about in the top half of the

526
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 3: draft Ohio State players versus SEC players. Yeah, and Ohio

527
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 3: State's much stronger the top of the draft than the

528
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: entire SEC. It's It's one of the things that's not

529
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 3: great about this draft is the SEC is not holding

530
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 3: up their elite blue chip, you know, reputation, what's interestingly

531
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 3: well earned. Yeah, but there's not the great Bama dude,

532
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: there's not. Yeah, well, all those Georgia guys.

533
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 2: Bam is still very good, obviously, but they're not quite

534
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: what they were. George is still very good, they're not

535
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: quite LSU. LSU is down.

536
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you.

537
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: Know old Old miss was really good this year, but

538
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 2: they under Kiffin kind of did things differently, you know.

539
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: So that's a good point. I mean, you throw Sonny

540
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: Styles into that equation, could have four guys taking him

541
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: the top twelve top.

542
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe the SEC has one.

543
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is crazy to put it that way, but

544
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: but you know, I'm I'm I'm seeing it. I'm seeing it.

545
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 2: A couple of corners go off the board here. Speaking

546
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: of SEC guys, they've got some really good corners from

547
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: the SEC this year. Not the beasts in the trenches

548
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: like they typically have, but man Sword de Lane out

549
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: of LSU, number ten to the Bengals. Jermaud McCoy out

550
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: of Tennessee. Remember he's another one of these real wild

551
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 2: cards in this class. Had an unbelievable sophomore season in

552
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: twenty four and then tore his ACL in the very

553
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 2: end last year and didn't play this previous year for Tennessee.

554
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: He still goes eleventh to Miami Cowboys.

555
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 3: Idea if he'll be ready for Combine Pro Day, I.

556
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: Would think so because at that point it would be

557
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen months since he tore that ACL, and you'd

558
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: think he'd really be kind of chomping at the bit.

559
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: He has champion at the bit, Tom to rob King

560
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: to get out there and yeah, just kind of prove

561
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm still that guy.

562
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: And obviously the key with him too will be medicals

563
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: at Indie.

564
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: Yes, but he has not played a college football game

565
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 2: since December of twenty twenty four when he when he

566
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: tore his ACL. I think, don't quote me on it,

567
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 2: but it might have been that playoff game loss that

568
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: Tennessee had at Ohio State and Columbus to kick start

569
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: that Buckeye National championship. Don't quote me on that, but

570
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 2: I think his last game twelve Man, we've talked about

571
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: him a little bit. I'm sure we'll get into him more.

572
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: Matt Highest I've seen him go to this point, a

573
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: key messador, the other edge rusher out of Miami goes

574
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: to the Cowboys at twelve.

575
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be twenty five.

576
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: When I told you that he started his career at

577
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: WVU like before COVID and is one of those like

578
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: sixty years your guys old.

579
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: Because a couple of the edge dudes he's competing against.

580
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: You're going to be unusually young, and he's unusually old.

581
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: That's what I think, is ah and I think he's

582
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: a good player.

583
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if he went in the first round,

584
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: but twelve is probably a little.

585
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: Rich for me. Yeah, I don't see a special player there, No,

586
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: I do not.

587
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: I see a good ten year Yeah, solid number two guy,

588
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 2: right plus type NFL player. Thirteen the La Rams. This

589
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: would throw a monkey into the wrench of the Steelers

590
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: potential options. Ty Simpson, the quarterback from Bama. That's is

591
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: I think the highest.

592
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: We've seen him, mocks without question.

593
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: So he gets to sit for a year behind Matt Stafford,

594
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: and that's a bonus pick for the Rams. It makes sense.

595
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: So I perused this. I didn't read every one of them,

596
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 3: but I did read Todd's write up about it, and

597
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: I think it makes some sense. And I also listened

598
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 3: to a locked on podcast was just about Simpson. And

599
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm warming up to him for the

600
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 3: Steelers twenty one, but some of the arguments are his

601
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: first nine games or so. And Todd says it in

602
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: this write up, he said he was the best quarterback

603
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 3: in the in college football, including Mendoza. He believes that.

604
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 3: And then there were some core injuries kind of like

605
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 3: what happened to us and real protection issues. Now that's

606
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: on excuse. He really did not play well in the

607
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: last four or five games.

608
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: Oh, his like first nine games compared to his last.

609
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 3: Four A real line of the market looks like.

610
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: A different guy.

611
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you're getting the first nine game guy,

612
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 3: well that's a lot different than the last five game guy.

613
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: That's what it's going to make kids scouting evaluation really difficult.

614
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: And hey, by April, I might be like, I'm gladly

615
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: taking them. I'll trade Yeah, maybe that's the answer.

616
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: But or I'll be like, eh, there's a lot of

617
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: these guys that you and I are interested to pick

618
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: the brains of the draft knicks on when we get

619
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: out to the combine.

620
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: I just need to watch them more too.

621
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: But I think Ky Sipson might be at the top

622
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: of that list, especially when you consider the Steamers need

623
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: to core. I want to tell with Caleb Downs about

624
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: these guys. I want to talk you know a lot

625
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: of these guys that are very intriguing.

626
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 3: The other quarterback on him absolutely.

627
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens go interior offensive line. First interior guy off

628
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: the board, vega Ione guard out of Penn State. Need huge,

629
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: need fifteen. The Bucks go with another one of those

630
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: Ohio State defensive studs, linebacker Sonny Styles True. Oh he's

631
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: a freak athlete.

632
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: Yea, he really is.

633
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: True off ball linebacker there at pick fifteen for the Bucks.

634
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: The Jets, this is the sauce Gardner picked from the Colts.

635
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: Second wide receiver off the board. Mackay Lemon out of

636
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: USC goes sixteenth overall.

637
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: They'd already taken Reese.

638
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: The Lions at seventeen reinforced that defense. They go edg

639
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: rusher Cashius Howe out of Texas A and M eighteen

640
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings the other Tennessee corner that's going to go

641
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: in the first Sea chance. Colton Hood goes eighteenth overall

642
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: to Minnesota. The Carolina Panthers at nineteen. This is a

643
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: guy who's very intriguing to me in this Ken Sadik,

644
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: the athletic freak tight end out of Oregon. I think

645
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: this is probably about the right range, but he's one

646
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: of those guys, you know if he was getting top

647
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: twelve ish buzz by the time we get to the

648
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: end of April. Wouldn't surprise me. He's a weapon.

649
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: I think he's pretty safe too, kind of in that

650
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: Banks or a downs in love category, like not the

651
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: most sought after position. But I know what I'm getting.

652
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 2: I know what I'm by Tyler Warren, Colson Loveland, Like

653
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: he's say he's gonna give you some impact.

654
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: Right. It used to be boy it takes him a

655
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: couple of years, but now it's Bowers, it's Loveland, it's

656
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Speaker 3: Warren and McBride. That the tight ends that are coming

657
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: to the league are way more developed than they used

658
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: to be.

659
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: Another theme that we've started to touch on for this

660
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: upcoming NFL draft Matt is off ball linebacker being a

661
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: good year off a stronger than typical, particularly with the

662
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: top end talent we've seen years where they in recent

663
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: years where there haven't even been one drafted in the

664
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Speaker 2: first round.

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Speaker 3: They be pretty darn good. We go first round, it's

666
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 3: like a guard or a center, you know.

667
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: Right this year two in the top twenty. As the

668
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: Cowboys with their Michael Parsons pick from Green Bay, they

669
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: take CJ. Allen linebacker out of Georgia.

670
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: Okay.

671
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that leaves for what I think would

672
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: be a very interesting debate for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Matt Williamson.

673
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: And here's why. At pick twenty one, you'd still have

674
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: some intriguing tight end or some intriguing wide receivers part

675
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: of me only two off the board.

676
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the top twenty in a rich first round

677
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: of wide outs, I.

678
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: Would be given the googly eyes to Jordan Tyson, that

679
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: wide receiver out of Arizona State. That's where Todd McShay

680
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: has this pick mocked for the Steelers. You're kind of

681
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: perfect running mate for DK Metcalf gets dropped run into

682
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: your lap here at pick twenty one. But and he

683
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: goes pick twenty two to the Chargers defensive tackle Peter

684
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: Woods out of Clemson. I would be very tendered here

685
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: at pick twenty one.

686
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: Maybe I mean trade down three spots or whatever.

687
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Denzel Boston's still there, the wide receiver out

688
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: of Washington, Malachi Fields out of Notre Dame is still there.

689
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Todd said.

690
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: On a Hunter, the interior defensive tackle a lot of

691
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: Texas Tech who's really been burning up the airwaves. He's

692
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: still there, So you would have two, I think, really

693
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: good defensive line options and two or three really intriguing

694
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: wide receiver options.

695
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and these Boks will change a lot over the

696
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: coming months and as people learn more and teams don't

697
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: even know these guys one percent yet, But it does

698
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: look like twenty one is going to be a real

699
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: good spot to match with the Steelers' needs. I mean

700
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: that there'll be something you're gonna like there. And the

701
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: one note I heard Todd say on a podcast was

702
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 3: Boston's from Washington the wide receiver that.

703
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: If everything's coming up Boston and Washington in.

704
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: The football right now, if he runs really well at

705
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: the combine, Todd said, I might make Boston my wide

706
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: receiver one. Really yeah, because he thinks he's gonna be

707
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: like a four or five five guy. But he's like,

708
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: if he's under four or five and it's faster than

709
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: I think, interesting, he could be the best receiver in

710
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: this last he's just like kicking it around as an evaluator. Yeah, Hey,

711
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: which I can get. Yeah, I there's not a clear

712
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: number one wide out. May end up like Smith and Jigba.

713
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you might end up getting the best wide

714
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: out in the draft at twenty one, Mecca Buca justin Jefferson.

715
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah right, did it happen there's a history, Yeah, yeah,

716
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: certainly so.

717
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. So he has Steelers taking Jordan Tyson. Chargers go

718
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: with Peter woods Man. Both of those guys.

719
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: Would be thrilled with that.

720
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: I'd sign it. I would trade probably, I might trade

721
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: twenty one for both of those guys.

722
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: Right now, I was just gonna say, I think I

723
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: would trade twenty one for Tyson.

724
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: In that extra Smith, I think I would too. If

725
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: I know that there's a lot of varying opinions on

726
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: the wide receivers. But if Tyson lasts through the first twenty.

727
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: Picks, I would be surprised. Yeah, just do I think

728
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: there's so much like almost everyone has him second or third.

729
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: At worst, top ten, top twelve.

730
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 3: And what I didn't realize, because again I haven't studied

731
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: them enough. Todd mentioned he'll play all three receiver positions too.

732
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: He can go slot, he play the actually.

733
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: You know, charge just take Peter woods at twenty two.

734
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: Right behind the Steelers, Eagles go Keldrick Falk, another one

735
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: of those big name edge rushers. He's the young guy

736
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: out of Auburn Brown's at twenty four, go Denzel Boston.

737
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: I would hate that if Cleveland gets Spencer Fonnu and

738
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: Denzel Boston, I would not like saying that the Browns

739
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: had a very good first round. Bears. At twenty five,

740
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 2: go t J Parker, another one of those defensive lineman

741
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: edge guys out of Clemson. Malachi Fields, wide receiver out

742
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 2: of Notre Dame goes to the Buffalo Bills as they

743
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: continue to try and find a weapon there for Josh Allen.

744
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: Caden Proctor. The big tackle out Obama goes twenty seven

745
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 2: to the Niners. The big tackle out of Clemson, Blake Miller.

746
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: He goes twenty eighth to the Texans. A little run

747
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: on tackles here.

748
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: The Rams get those three straight.

749
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: Here is the Rams at twenty nine, go with Monroe

750
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: Freeling out of Georgia six seven, three hundred and fifteen.

751
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: Pass is the one I think could go past all

752
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 3: the others. I done.

753
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: I think so just turned twenty one years old. There's

754
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: like some Broderick Jones, like, there's a lot of potential

755
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: and upside here if you can get this guy in

756
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: the right setting. Lee Hunter, who I'm continuing to like

757
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: and like, and like goes thirty to the defensive Broncos.

758
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: My goodness goes thirty to the Denver Broncos part of

759
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: me if you can, if you could add him to

760
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: that defense, That's the type of greed they speak about

761
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: in the Bible.

762
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: Matt Williams.

763
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: So the Patriots go edge rusher Mason Thomas out of

764
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: Oklahoma and the.

765
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: Series fine, but I would have taken on the absolutely.

766
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: I might even try and trade up a few picks

767
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: if I'm New England and there's sitting there. Seattle Seahawks

768
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 2: super Bowl champions. They add to the wide receiver room

769
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: Casey Consef, who we laughed about last week.

770
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: He's a free agent and cups old. Yeah, yes, he

771
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 3: is old my football standards. Seattle does have three defensive

772
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 3: backshitting free agency too, though not the hugest names, but

773
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: starter types. You know job and you know.

774
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: Is Reek Wooling one of those guys who' and he's

775
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: probably gonna try and cash in. I would imagine, uh, Matt,

776
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: one more segment to go when he said, we closed

777
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: this thing down with some tweets on the other side,

778
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: love it. We will do that when we return, we

779
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: was Shuuler Matt Williamson. One more segment to go here

780
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: on the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

781
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: Your tune's about Drive on your twenty four to seven

782
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

783
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: Final segment here of the Drive on this Monday, the

784
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: day after the Seattle Seahawks twenty nine to thirteen over

785
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots in Super Bowl sixty. Can I

786
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: just say, with the uh, you know, the Roman numerals

787
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: and everything of the Super Bowl, the whole numbers are

788
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: much more aesthetically pleasing on the eyes, you know that? Yeah,

789
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: XL for Super Bowl fifty L as opposed to a

790
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: bunch of a bunch of eyes and bees. And I'm

791
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: like looking at it and I'm like.

792
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: Tracking from one in front of it or what. Yeah,

793
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: it's like can make this easy on us?

794
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: All right? Every ten years it is easy? And last night,

795
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: certainly for some different reasons, not because it was the

796
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: most beautifully esthetic football, but memorable one for some different reasons. Yeah,

797
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: And that's kind of where I wanted to go here,

798
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 2: Matt with our first tweet, actually, because this is one

799
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: thing that we haven't talked about just the overall reception

800
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: and perception of last night's game. A lot of people

801
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 2: it stunk, it was boring, all that different stuff.

802
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 3: I got a lot of those.

803
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe if you're maybe you casual listen. I

804
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: like watching football where defensive lines are beating the crap

805
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: out of offensive lines and it's like, who can find this?

806
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: Who can figure this out?

807
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 3: First? Yeah? Yeah.

808
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: Our buddy Rahu, who we we see at training camp

809
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: every year, tweets us and says for those saying that

810
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: game was awful for the football purists like me, I

811
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: love front seven dominance. I loved watching that game with

812
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 2: no horse in the race.

813
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't like this is a lesser product or

814
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: we're getting short changed. And by the way, it bugs me,

815
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: like everyone just thinks it's their right that this has

816
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: to be like the best football game ever played, you know.

817
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Like if this it rarely is.

818
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, if this happened in week seven, and be like,

819
00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 3: that's pretty good game, you know, right?

820
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: That is the that's the one downside of the nature

821
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: of a physical league of physical sport Like the NFL,

822
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: NBA doesn't have this, Baseball doesn't have this, Hockey does

823
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: hockey and football. By the time you get to the

824
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: championship game or the championship round, those teams are so

825
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: beat up.

826
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: Hockey more than.

827
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: It's almost rarely. It's so infrequently the best game of

828
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 2: the year, the best series of the year, because those

829
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: guys are all compromised. They're only seventy percent health either

830
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: playing with a bad hit, bad ankle, bad shoulder.

831
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: How these guys are, it's some procedure in the next weeks,

832
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 3: scolarge chunk a large all like blowing off like it's

833
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: a little little minor. Yeah, he's got like half a

834
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: tormentiscus or something. You know that Drake May I guess

835
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 3: was getting shot up in the throat or whatever. You know,

836
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: it's just the reality of it. I wouldn't I do

837
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: like that. They give him a week difference so you

838
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: get better players out there.

839
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to watch that game last night every

840
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: single week.

841
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 3: But no, but from all the marbles.

842
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 2: Right, yes, I like watching games in bad weather some

843
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: times where you have to figure it out. I like

844
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: watching a game last night where the front sevens on

845
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: defense are dominating in the offense can't do anything. And

846
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: then I also like watching the thirty eight to thirty

847
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: five shootouts.

848
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's what's what the game is. It's

849
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 3: what the game is, right, I mean there's great hockey

850
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: games that are won nothing or you know, baseball games

851
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: that are pitcher duels. You know, that doesn't mean it's bad.

852
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: Let's see here, Christopher tweets us it says not to

853
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: be a jerk, this is a jerk comment, but that

854
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: Seattle defense looks like what you're supposed to get when

855
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: you're paying that type of money for a defense.

856
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: Yes, it does. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's one

857
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: of the best. I still think Houston's is comparable, but

858
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: it's one of the best two defenses in the league.

859
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 3: That should be what I mean, if you're just looking

860
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: for dollars to production, that's what you should be getting.

861
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: And that's one of the things we talked about with

862
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: Patrick Graham, right yeah, giving him a D roster but

863
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 2: getting C plus results out of it as opposed to

864
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: now we think he's got a A minus year B

865
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: plus a minus roster, and let's see what he can

866
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: get out of it going forward.

867
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

868
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: AJ tweets and says it seems like a lot of

869
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: all commentators in media seem to have downplayed the importance

870
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: of defense lately over the recent years, but the Super

871
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: Bowl sixty tell us that defense still wins championships.

872
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: The whole season tells you that the playoffs Denver made

873
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: as far as they did, Houston made as far as

874
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Speaker 3: they did with the quarterback that was struggling in offenses

875
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: that weren't great. I think this year brought the balance

876
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Speaker 3: of power back a little bit. I mean, Mahomes and

877
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Speaker 3: Lamar didn't even in Burrow didn't even make the playoffs.

878
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Speaker 2: Right, and Josh Allen didn't win his division.

879
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, didn't get super far and yeah, right.

880
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I certainly think defense has always mattered in the

881
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: context of winning championships. Yeah, I do, but it is

882
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: you know, it's a football is cyclical things, things come

883
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: and go, and I do think a lot of that.

884
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: You gotta have a young, ascending offensive mind, right. You

885
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: know those two head coaches last night are both defensive guys.

886
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Speaker 3: Right, right, right right. I just think there's a lot

887
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: of ways to win in this league.

888
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: There's so many ways to win the sleep that's.

889
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: We all are sports, do I mean, if you have

890
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 3: a great rotation or if you've got great hitters.

891
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: I mean whatever, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. Let's

892
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: see here, Matt, a couple more that I wanted to

893
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Speaker 2: pull is now. Of course my computer is uh is

894
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Speaker 2: giving me some some grief. Here here we go.

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Speaker 3: Wait a second, No, where did it go? No? Where

896
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Speaker 3: did it go? It's right here.

897
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Speaker 2: Let's see before you all start windows shopping the draft

898
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Speaker 2: and free agency options, which of our free agents should

899
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: be re signed and who needs extensions? Who should be

900
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: cut or traded. We'll do a little bit.

901
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 3: We should hit that hard. We'll hit that harder tomorrow,

902
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: round the bush a little bit on it.

903
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: But but I think in terms of re sign and

904
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: who needs extensions, you can start that conversation with her

905
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: big and Joey Porter Junior.

906
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I mean an exercise we will definitely do.

907
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 3: I assume this week is mention every name that is

908
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: going to be a UFA or an AFA, and where

909
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: we add on, you know, or importance. I think we

910
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: got to talk about a handful of potential cap casualties

911
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 3: and go from there, because that's how they do it,

912
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: you know, like who on our team do we need

913
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 3: to deal with and who's who can vanish it right

914
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: away and so be it.

915
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: You know, we got a lot of interesting tweets over

916
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Speaker 2: the weekend. We'll get to more of these tomorrow, but

917
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: we do have just like a minute or two left here.

918
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: This kind of piggybacks a little bit off of what

919
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 2: we were just talking about. Steele Curtin tweets us and says,

920
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: would you guys use some of our draft capital to

921
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 2: move up and get a wide receiver like Carnell Tait.

922
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure will Hill end up landing in

923
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: the draft, but I would love to bring him to Pittsburgh.

924
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: I lean towards no, just because I think there'll be

925
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: somebody probably in the same tier at twenty one, subject

926
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 3: to change, of course.

927
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 2: If you're telling me right now, move up from twenty

928
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: one to sixteen or seventeen to make sure you get

929
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: a wide receiver that you.

930
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: Love if they're starting to fall off the board or whatever.

931
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not trading up into the top ten to

932
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Speaker 2: get a wide receiver.

933
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 3: Kind of what I assumed he meant, like to get

934
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: the first receiver off the board, because I don't know

935
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 3: the discrepancy is that it wasn't that.

936
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: The Broderick Jones. Yeah, the Steelers moved up to get him,

937
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: but they moved up.

938
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: Like three or four spots. It was my third round pick.

939
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: So if it's one of those, you're sitting there at

940
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: pick twenty one, pick seventeen rolls around and you're like, ooh,

941
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Speaker 2: this is the guy we really want and he I'll

942
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Speaker 2: give you a third round pick to go up and

943
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 2: get him. I could see something like that, but I

944
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: don't see a massive trade.

945
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 3: Up for I don't want to give up a lot

946
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Speaker 3: of capital with as many needs as they have, and

947
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 3: you know, I want picks for next year or two.

948
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Speaker 3: Speaking of Broderick Jones, I remember hosting the Draft live

949
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: when they made that trade up. I'm like, this is

950
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: for Christian Gonzalez. That would have been better, but you

951
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: know who, Yeah, I thought that too. They were moving

952
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: up for today, but that then they wouldn't end up

953
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Speaker 3: with Porter. Probably you know that's true. I mean there's

954
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 3: all these ripple effects.

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Speaker 2: You know, hindsight is twenty twenty, especially with especially with

956
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Speaker 2: with these draft backs. Absolutely, let's see last one. DJ

957
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: kray tweets me and says, hey, Wes, are you related

958
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Speaker 2: to a Helena Yuler from Austin Town, Ohio. That was

959
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: my grandma. Would be cool to see if you were

960
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 2: distant cousins. I don't think so. There's not many Yulers,

961
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Speaker 2: but I don't think so. The Yulers that I'm related

962
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Speaker 2: to all roam from Carlisle, Pennsylvania or West Virginia. So

963
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Speaker 2: I don't think we have any I don't think we have.

964
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Speaker 2: Could be a distant, far off yeah, twice removed type thing,

965
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Speaker 2: but I don't know Eulers that I know related to

966
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Speaker 2: roaming around in Ohio. But that's a that's a funny one.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: To close us down, tomorrow on the show, talk to

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Speaker 2: our buddy Allan Saunders. He was out at the Super Bowl.

970
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: We'll get his thoughts on everything that happened and the

971
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Speaker 2: tour too, like we could eat Senior Bowl stuff too, absolutely,

972
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Speaker 2: So we'll have fun talking with Alan and we'll do

973
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: some cap casualty conversation. One of those things we got

974
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Speaker 2: tweeted about. You sent me a really good over the

975
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Speaker 2: cap kind of breakdown of speaking of ripple effects. If

976
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Speaker 2: you cut this guy, what does it mean for your cap?

977
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: All that stuff. Will start to dig into some of

978
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Speaker 2: that on tomorrow's show as well, but that will do

979
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Speaker 2: it for us for today. Thanks to Nate Dogg producing

980
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: on the ones and twos, Mister TV on the video

981
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Speaker 2: side of things into each and every one, he ends

982
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Speaker 2: for tweeting and participating with the show. For Matt Williams

983
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Speaker 2: and um Wes Shuler. Take care everybody, We will talk

984
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: to you tomorrow. As always, you know where to find us.

985
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Speaker 2: It's on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.