WEBVTT - Things Change (S7 E3 “Lorelai’s First Cotillion”)

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<v Speaker 1>I am all in.

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<v Speaker 2>You.

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<v Speaker 3>I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, guys, I didn't hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hate it either.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there are parts I had notes on, but it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't overall terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>There was some suckiness, there wasn't a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Emily is back in that saved this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>And Richard and Richard back got me in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Group Friday Night Dinner finally back when I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, but you need a good bad guy in this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and Emily's the bad guy in this thing, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the antagonist of the shell basically.

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<v Speaker 2>And even a bad guy like your entertainment.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what makes it so great. It's like that negative

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<v Speaker 1>energy versus the positive energy and its sparks fly. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a little something.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so good.

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<v Speaker 3>Good.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the second I saw the Gilmour home the driveway,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit of an awkward scene at the top.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it landed. The jokes, the jokes were there,

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<v Speaker 1>the writing was there, it was all kind of there,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was off. It wasn't landing.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, it felt it felt long.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that like before before the little girl opened

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<v Speaker 4>the door, we could have cut like a minute and

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<v Speaker 4>a half from that banter.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny you say that, you guys, because that was

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<v Speaker 3>I thought we were I thought the episode was going

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<v Speaker 3>to suck from that before the credits roll scene, because

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<v Speaker 3>it was like weird banter or Bengal or Bengal or

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<v Speaker 3>like it was just trying too hard and they were

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<v Speaker 3>trying to sqush, like let's be really really funny right

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<v Speaker 3>from the start and people will like us. It's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like how I felt, and I was like yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, But once I got inside it started a

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<v Speaker 1>rock and roll.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have that many flags after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, there's some flags. There are flags. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to step around them. There's some flags.

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<v Speaker 3>So are people going to be tragically disappointed that Suzanne

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<v Speaker 3>is not here to do this synopsis?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Whoa, I just got a text from her.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to hurry up and do the synopsis so

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<v Speaker 2>that she doesn't take it away from me.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to get me to stop you from doing it?

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<v Speaker 1>What No, she says, don't let dan Scott. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>New York. Don't let Danielle do the thing I like being.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, guys, this is season seven, episode three, the first Katilion.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm gonna finish it. It's air date October tenth,

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and six. Lorelai expects the worst from her

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<v Speaker 2>parents when she finally tells them that she and Luke

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<v Speaker 2>have split up. Michelle convinces Laura to attend Ktilion after

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<v Speaker 2>Emily host an afternoon tea, and Paris convinces Rory to

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<v Speaker 2>send scandalous texts to Logan. Meanwhile, Lane finally tells Zach

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<v Speaker 2>she is pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty great, that's a mic drop. Ooh, I'm gonna text Uzanne.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh you should worry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, your queendom may be going away.

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<v Speaker 1>The throne Maybe usurped Like I said.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't hate it, and I really don't as a whole.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm, I don't hate.

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<v Speaker 1>It all right, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>I also thought Lauren Graham looked so good in this

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<v Speaker 3>entire episode. You know this is that she ever looked

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<v Speaker 3>bad though, I mean no, but she was particularly cute.

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<v Speaker 2>This may be the dumbest and very very late revelation

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't know how seven seasons later, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>finally like seeing you all have the most piercing blue eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>the three of you, Luke, Loreli and Rory. I literally true.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why this episode. I was just like

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's eyes.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just weird.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that, yeah, but I was was even this.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in one in the diner, a good scene

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<v Speaker 3>actually with Rory, very good scene. I have a comment

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<v Speaker 3>about that scene. And there's a moment in this episode

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<v Speaker 3>that causes a lot of controversy that I will talk

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<v Speaker 3>about when we get.

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<v Speaker 2>There amongst the people, maybe amongst us as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe so she would just start going through it. We

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<v Speaker 3>already kind of talked about. The open scene didn't totally work. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was too long, it was too dense, it was

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<v Speaker 3>not get on.

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<v Speaker 1>The horse and let's get the thing moving.

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<v Speaker 4>But when then when they give the drink quarters to

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<v Speaker 4>the little girl, Oh my.

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<v Speaker 3>God, did everybody think, like, what is going on? Did

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<v Speaker 3>they hire a maid that is eleven?

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<v Speaker 1>But I knew it was going to pay off and

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it was gonna be something like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>that first jokey joke from from Lauren or from what

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<v Speaker 1>she said, is that legal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she was the best in that whole scene. Plus

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<v Speaker 3>with the little girl being like, oh, your mother warned

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<v Speaker 3>me you you were you know, you had a smart

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<v Speaker 3>mouth or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It was right, But she was so sweet about it.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't you know, she's cast perfectly. She was very keen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The only part was when Emily yielded her about

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<v Speaker 3>the ice. I was like, oh Emily too.

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<v Speaker 1>That was but that that guarantees that Emily is the

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<v Speaker 1>antagonist of this. Yeah, you know, and Taylor a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess are you taking us through what? Scott? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I am pardon me? Let me.

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<v Speaker 1>I retired from that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you're so good at that about.

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<v Speaker 1>I retired from that?

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<v Speaker 3>When did you retire?

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<v Speaker 1>I retired last week? And you know, because your.

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<v Speaker 3>That was just a one time thing, because of your tooth.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be in perpetuity.

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<v Speaker 3>The people are not going to like this.

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<v Speaker 1>B s.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so we come in.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna love.

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<v Speaker 3>It, They're not. They prefer I don't mind, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>mind doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you'll discuss it.

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<v Speaker 3>So we talked about the opening scene, which it seems

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<v Speaker 3>like all of us are in agreement. It wasn't great,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had concerns. Credits roll and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>but then we go off to the races. So this

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<v Speaker 3>little girl opens the door. It turns out to be Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 3>and we realized that Emily is kind of coaching up

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<v Speaker 3>these little girls, specifically Emily for the Katillion Charlie, and

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<v Speaker 3>we had great banter and the whole thing. So let's

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<v Speaker 3>let's talk about let's talk about it. Well, all the

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<v Speaker 3>way to dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Emily would she would be running the Katillion joint like

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<v Speaker 2>she This is so up her alley and I love

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<v Speaker 2>seeing her back in this little royal pedestal that she

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<v Speaker 2>sits on.

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<v Speaker 4>She always finds something to do, like she she finds

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<v Speaker 4>like a new hobby and I love it in this world, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>today I'm going to coach these fifteen girls.

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<v Speaker 3>Who did Katillion here you of course, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't like you guys didn't have Katillia.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even I thought it was just in like movies.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we had it in either seventh or eighth grade.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's much more casual than this. It's where you

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<v Speaker 3>learn to dance, you learn to like dance with boys.

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<v Speaker 3>And they still have it now in my town. And

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<v Speaker 3>the big thing is that all the kids have a

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<v Speaker 3>dinner together, so not like a fancy thing like they

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<v Speaker 3>did in this, although not that different. All the kids

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<v Speaker 3>before they go to the katillion they go to each week.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like five weeks of Katillian and they go to

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<v Speaker 3>like one house and that mom has prepared dinner, order

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<v Speaker 3>tacos or whatever it is, and then they go off

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<v Speaker 3>and they learn to dance and they have.

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<v Speaker 5>To would you say, weren't they eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Eleven in this?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was the right age. It's about seventh grade.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you do. It's seventh grade probably like well thirteen, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>twelve thirteen?

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<v Speaker 4>Really when I have you guys seen the movie at

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<v Speaker 4>Danielle You probably have. She's the Man with Amanda Bynes

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<v Speaker 4>and then like she goes to Katilion. It always threw

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<v Speaker 4>me off because I didn't know what it was. But

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<v Speaker 4>they're like teenagers, they're like sixteen seventeen, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know it was a specific age.

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<v Speaker 2>So you didn't You didn't learn like about the forks

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<v Speaker 2>and the.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that wasn't part of this arc. What Katillion was

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<v Speaker 3>for us, it was learning to dance. So you learned

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<v Speaker 3>like the box step and not the walls, but like

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<v Speaker 3>some simple dances and then you yeah, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>at the I think the dancing part was that you

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<v Speaker 3>learned No but is that Bruce Springsteen? No? But then, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>where did I have manners classes? I definitely had some

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<v Speaker 3>sort of manners thing too, So this was sort of

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<v Speaker 3>just combining.

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<v Speaker 1>That interesting And what do you remember about the manners class?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? The bread always the bread that you never Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So here's your piece of bread, right, Yes, this is

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<v Speaker 3>not toast. This is bread at a at a dignified thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Never never take the butter and this never never never.

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<v Speaker 3>So you take the butter off, the butter thing, you

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<v Speaker 3>put it onto your plate. Then you break off your

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<v Speaker 3>bite of bread.

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<v Speaker 2>And you did it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you you butter each bite of bread. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>butter like slather it off. It's funny you guys bring

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<v Speaker 3>this up. So there's this place in San Francisco called

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<v Speaker 3>Crown and Crumpet obviously the name Crumpet, and you can

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<v Speaker 3>take manners classes there.

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<v Speaker 2>Never so my nieces, you could.

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<v Speaker 3>My nieces have the worst habit of this. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>when you've got like something on your mouth and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like the whole backhand like sweatshirt. It's like no, but

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<v Speaker 3>the the buttering of the bread and the forks, the

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<v Speaker 3>forks tracked. You definitely would learn about the forks.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you know the internet is just learning about what

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<v Speaker 4>a charger is what? Because of TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like a very well known thing. It's the decorative

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<v Speaker 2>plate under the plate.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even know what it was called. And like

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<v Speaker 4>this TikTok went viral because the.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl ate off the charger.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, uh etiquette expert Amy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>talk tout Okay. So once you let's say you have steak,

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<v Speaker 1>you cut the steak. You have to put the knife

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<v Speaker 1>down first, and then you switch hands, yes, correct, and

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<v Speaker 1>eat with your.

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<v Speaker 2>Right hand right unless you're lefty, right, right, Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>you can't do none of the.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, no, no, no, you can't hold the knife.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I thought Emily said it very well

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<v Speaker 3>because a lot of people mess us up and a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of restaurants, you know, like you don't put your

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<v Speaker 3>jam knife down on the tablecloth. Oh no, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you just got a jam Remember jam hands. It brought

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<v Speaker 3>me right back to remember when Luke didn't like jam hands.

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<v Speaker 3>But so that was a good, good one. I'll try

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<v Speaker 3>and think of more as we go, but right now

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<v Speaker 3>we're just setting it up, and I thought I was

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<v Speaker 3>so happy. I was like, oh, the banter's great. The

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<v Speaker 3>little girl is sort of adding a flavor we needed.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we get to the dinner and the whole

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<v Speaker 3>reveal of Luke and I broke up and they're sort

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<v Speaker 3>of like, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>They couldn't care less, and She's like, oh, mad, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Think that they didn't care I just thought that Emily

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<v Speaker 4>was waiting for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she kind of probably knew it was coming from

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<v Speaker 3>the house. Tears from the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just oh, is that the last time we saw them? Yes, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, they comes to my mind, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna swear, damn it, George swear from Back to the Future.

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<v Speaker 3>You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're the Gilmours with Loralai, because if they caused

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<v Speaker 3>a big ruckus, she'd be upset. Now they don't cause

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<v Speaker 3>a big ruckus.

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<v Speaker 1>She's sort of upset, right She's she's asking for a

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<v Speaker 1>normalized family interaction when that is anything but yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 1>asking for warmth and support when she is so contentious

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time, but for good reason. Still, there's

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<v Speaker 1>that imbalance at the dinner table.

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<v Speaker 3>And I enjoyed the callback to Bangalore Bangalore. I just

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<v Speaker 3>didn't enjoy it when with the setup, but that was

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<v Speaker 3>funny and the little girl sitting there through all this,

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<v Speaker 3>and the banter between the little girl and the Lorelie

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<v Speaker 3>is like a ten out of ten.

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<v Speaker 4>I also did like how the scene just ended after

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<v Speaker 4>you said Bangalore, like it went with exactly what was

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to happen. It's just like, all right, well, conversation's done.

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<v Speaker 1>So I actually wanted more at the dinner table. I

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<v Speaker 1>went less at the front door and more at the

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<v Speaker 1>dinner time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I just laughed at that part because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh they really they could call back work, had.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot more banter with the little girl, Charlotte, the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was all great.

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<v Speaker 3>So then we go back to lore Lies and first

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<v Speaker 3>we're getting the awkward logan calls while Rory's sleeping.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, which this is my first flag, Like he knows

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<v Speaker 4>it's two am. He's acting like she's been up and

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<v Speaker 4>out and about.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also the math. Oh no there on the.

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<v Speaker 2>East the East coast is eleven something. It said it

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<v Speaker 2>on her alarm clock.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it's eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally yeah, it's a twelve. Jackie pulled it up on.

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<v Speaker 3>But that would be four am in London. Nothing's tracking.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, there was an alarm clock with the time

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<v Speaker 2>on it, because I weirdly was seeing if the alarm

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<v Speaker 2>clock changed for like continuity things.

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<v Speaker 4>I was, I don't know why, I just put to.

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<v Speaker 3>See if the minutes rolled by.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye, and two minutes rolled by.

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote down two o'clock. But I also watched this

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<v Speaker 4>really late last night. Maybe I just made up two am.

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<v Speaker 3>But the math doesn't work though if it was eleven in.

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<v Speaker 4>The I was thinking, here, I forgot they're on the

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<v Speaker 4>East coast. I was thinking, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Still if it's only eleven on the East coast, it's

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<v Speaker 3>only five hours later in London.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, they're eight hours ahead from us, so it would

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<v Speaker 4>have been ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh here, here we go, here we go. No, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>On Rory's alarm clock, it's stand by.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's eight hours from us, then it's five five.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like he's at work at two am or something.

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<v Speaker 3>This doesn't make sense, or five am, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's more than five hours to Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Alexa, no time is it in London? So it's ten.

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<v Speaker 5>It's I'm going to refer to the world eight hours

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<v Speaker 5>later from.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, so it's it's it is eight hours.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's right. That's what makes sense. It makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>It's two am on the East coast, seven am in London.

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<v Speaker 3>It's correct.

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<v Speaker 4>But my but my point was why is he calling

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<v Speaker 4>her at two am? Like he acted like, oh you're asleep.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh great point, but I don't know, maybe he forgot.

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<v Speaker 4>That was my call out was like the way he

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<v Speaker 4>calls and he's talking to her is like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 4>don't you expect my call at two am? Like it

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<v Speaker 4>just feels weird, and also seven am you probably just

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<v Speaker 4>got to work.

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<v Speaker 1>Like here's how maybe it can be justified. Maybe he's

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<v Speaker 1>used to her always being up late studying maybe yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And they have to be summer, the time has to work.

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<v Speaker 3>But that is just getting to work.

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<v Speaker 4>So it doesn't work because it's summer.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's okay to call her at two am because

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<v Speaker 1>it's summer and she doesn't have to get up and study, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Because guys, think about it, it's worse if it's ten

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<v Speaker 3>am in London, then it's really the middle of the night, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And it shows how much he misses.

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<v Speaker 2>For the record, the second phone call at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of this episode, it's eleven forty seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, not this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, got it, Yeah, got it, got it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get into the math later because there's a bigger

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<v Speaker 3>math veil in this way.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you, Thank God, we don't run a golf tour,

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<v Speaker 1>all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So then Rory gets up and she talks lorealies. Got

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<v Speaker 3>the pop tart situation going? Do I even like pop tarts?

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<v Speaker 3>She's eaten all the pop tarts?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I thought that was a very very insightful, uh

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<v Speaker 1>sort of section of this show. It's she's examining from

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<v Speaker 1>a psychological standpoint. She's sort of analyzing herself. I like

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<v Speaker 1>the pop tarts pop tarts, and I thought that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of clever.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes sense, like she's like if my mom would

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<v Speaker 3>have handed me a pop tart. Like it's almost like

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<v Speaker 3>we don't know if she likes pop tarts or not,

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<v Speaker 3>because if Emily gave it to her she would have

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<v Speaker 3>hated it. The friends giving it to her she loves it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what she likes pop tarts.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I think, really the the uncomfortable part was

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<v Speaker 1>I think the pop tart was Luke. Do I really

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<v Speaker 1>love Luke?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Whoa?

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<v Speaker 3>Who am I? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Who am I?

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<v Speaker 1>Like she's questioning all of her choices.

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<v Speaker 3>She doesn't know right who she is.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't even know subconsciously, like maybe she just did

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<v Speaker 1>it despite Emily and took the guy with the hat.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, maybe I am not as smart as you.

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<v Speaker 3>But I did think it was a very good scene.

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<v Speaker 3>I was very into the way they thank you, the

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<v Speaker 3>way they did that. I did get it. I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>she really is sort of questioning who.

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<v Speaker 1>She is, and then it was an interesting moment of

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<v Speaker 1>reflection and I thought, very well done.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, so far, I'm like this is going great.

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<v Speaker 3>And even Rory's awkward call with Logan and how she

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<v Speaker 3>explained it, like I can't remember she explained it to

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<v Speaker 3>Lorelai or Lane later, but there's all the weird pauses

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<v Speaker 3>and it's so awkward, and it was like, eh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, how is it in? And we'll get to

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<v Speaker 3>how great I thought Paris was in this episode, but

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<v Speaker 3>not time. So next we're at Luke's diner. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>grand reopening, and first of all, I did think that

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<v Speaker 3>the shot was different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the shot was the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way they shot that scene that was not an angle.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'd ever see different.

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<v Speaker 4>It was, you know what it was amy It looked

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<v Speaker 4>like it was right directly behind the counter instead of

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<v Speaker 4>at an angle like we saw from Luke's perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>I almost felt like the camera was like placed in

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<v Speaker 3>the diner because I could see so much.

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<v Speaker 1>They were favoring Sally Struthers and this Torres. They wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get those two on camera.

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<v Speaker 3>But I could see like all the people walking. They

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<v Speaker 3>was so like I could see the whole diner.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do agree, like the windows did look different, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like they really did.

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<v Speaker 3>That was my takeaway was the shot was so different

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, all, all wonderful crew making it slightly different, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that whole thing was good. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>it was a nice, funny sort of moment for be

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Bet and Patty to keep talking about what was going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Then Rory comes in hint of awkwardness but yet still good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of pushing through the awkwardness.

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<v Speaker 2>And then late like the shout we're missing one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that's very different this scene.

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<v Speaker 3>New hat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, new hat.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, it was so down too far.

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<v Speaker 2>I was down way too far. And you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of those like baseball hats that when you.

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<v Speaker 4>Have like the opening like usually like for a pony,

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<v Speaker 4>like for a girl's pony tip.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, like that. It didn't have a snapback.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like this, I couldn't even see Scott's face.

0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, get rid of that great call out. All

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<v Speaker 3>in all, good scene, maybe not as good as the

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<v Speaker 3>two before, but but good scene. And that was sort

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<v Speaker 3>of that's where your big moment was there, Scott you

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<v Speaker 3>did not get a lot of action in this episode,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's all right. All I can think of is

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<v Speaker 3>Scott's getting paid and he only had to do a

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<v Speaker 3>half day's work. Darn, It's so funny. It's so true that, like,

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<v Speaker 3>because we do work with a few actors, and I

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<v Speaker 3>do think sometimes they get excited, like, hey, I don't

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:43.960
<v Speaker 3>have to go tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>They're filming. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>So we go to the Dragonfly and I thought this

0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:55.200
<v Speaker 3>was kind of clever too. Lorli had her hair different.

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<v Speaker 4>I had two flags in this scene.

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:06.359
<v Speaker 5>And the first one, oh, you rewarded yourself. You did.

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<v Speaker 4>My first flag is that larelais had this hairdo in

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 4>the episode in the show and it's literally in season

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<v Speaker 4>one and as the credit when she kisses Rory on

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<v Speaker 4>the forehead.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, but I thought this was slightly different, but I'll

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<v Speaker 3>give you that the one where it's like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, so that's it's like they all acted like

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<v Speaker 4>she's never had her hair up. My second flag is

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<v Speaker 4>Suki literally made at when they did the catering company.

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<v Speaker 4>She made a whole table of food that was not

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<v Speaker 4>for kids, but acted like right, oh my god, like

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<v Speaker 4>the Pep and J's that's the only thing kids eat.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, now she has a kid, but maybe

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<v Speaker 3>she has a kid.

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:48.800
<v Speaker 2>But it just sounds like I would eat those Peep

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<v Speaker 2>and Jay sanwiches. They were they weren't just like a

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Peep and Jay sandwich. They were like their tea, a

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<v Speaker 2>little circle, huge.

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<v Speaker 4>And I guess it was more the way that Emily

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<v Speaker 4>said it to her, like.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted something like, oh my god, I have kids now,

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:08.440
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? Like I feel like I needed.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think she learned her lesson at the birthday party, and.

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 1>That Emily came down so hard on her. There's she

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<v Speaker 1>was probably shocked her and there's really no way to

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<v Speaker 1>come back.

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<v Speaker 3>It was aggressively mean to I mean, gosh, that was

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:28.879
<v Speaker 3>aggressive to Suki. It was like, dude, and they the

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<v Speaker 3>cuts have like the little jelly popping up.

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<v Speaker 5>It was so cute.

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<v Speaker 4>It was so well done.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not at a cucumber sandwich zone. I did think

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<v Speaker 3>the spinach and the teeth thing was very funny because

0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:43.240
<v Speaker 3>if you have braces, you're like yeah yeah.

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:47.400
<v Speaker 2>And Michelle was so Michelle was so good this episode.

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 2>He was I like, I need I needed him back.

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<v Speaker 2>To and I feel like they finally gave him a

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<v Speaker 2>good episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally agree, and I like circus food. Okay. Then

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.639
<v Speaker 3>this is what also nailed the episode for me is

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 3>we go to Yale to the newsroom, and Paris was Paris,

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 3>but she wasn't annoying. She was actually hilarious calling out

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:15.920
<v Speaker 3>the little boy. That was fully like googoo gaga over Rory.

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Like the whole thing was so funny. So you see

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 3>the tutors doing their thing, and then you just see

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Paris criticizing all of them. It was so funny. And

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 3>then she's all, I have five minutes. We can be

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<v Speaker 3>friends for five minutes, and this is where the sexting starts.

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 3>The whole thing was so funny and she's and Rory's like,

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 3>can you not do that? While I'm like talking to you?

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was so it was a yes, I.

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Wish they revealed like.

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 5>What was it?

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 3>What was said? You know, like h.

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 5>Family show wonder It's so funny.

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 4>When I was watching it, I was like, like, I

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 4>forget that it's two thousand and six, And so for me,

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 4>I was like, does she not know what sexing is?

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 4>But I guess at that time, like sexing was just starting.

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.199
<v Speaker 2>And they had their sidekicks to say that there was

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:09.640
<v Speaker 2>heavy product placement of the sidekick.

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 4>That was mobile just right there.

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:16.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all I know is I imagine Paris and Doyle

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 3>being filthy on the sexting.

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 2>I feel show.

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:23.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure is dipping her toe in a little bit

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 3>more and Logan is upping the ante. But we'll get

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.439
<v Speaker 3>to that. So then this is the only scene that

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 3>I didn't didn't It's not that I didn't love it.

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.679
<v Speaker 3>I didn't love love it. So we get to the

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:38.679
<v Speaker 3>apartment and Zach and Brian are talking about sort of

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 3>how he thinks he's getting divorced, right, He's like it's over,

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 3>and then she comes in and needs to talk and

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 3>tells him she's pregnant. It was fine, It was fine.

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:53.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't like anything about it. I honestly, the whole

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Lane Lane storyline is really really dragging me down this season.

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 1>Like it's just over, you know, it's like everything's just

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:07.640
<v Speaker 1>so what can I say?

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I wanted Laane to like enjoy being in newlywed and like,

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 2>as where does this sounds like enjoy having sex and

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 2>enjoy like she's not you know, like enjoy her.

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Own.

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:25.199
<v Speaker 2>She's still with living with her with Brian, you know,

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 2>like I wanted them to have their own.

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 3>Like be a little wild. But can we talk about

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 3>the biggest flag in the entire episode? The honeymoon was

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:42.959
<v Speaker 3>three weeks ago. He says that, Yeah, there is no

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 3>way she knows she's pregnant. No way, the honeymoon was

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:48.880
<v Speaker 3>three weeks ago.

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 4>She hasn't even gone to the doctor yet. She just

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:52.120
<v Speaker 4>did a test.

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Dude, she hasn't even missed her period. She's not like that.

0:26:56.240 --> 0:27:00.200
<v Speaker 3>The math is so and this is gonna sound so mean,

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 3>but can you guys tell me who wrote this episode?

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Was a man? A man that doesn't know what I'm saying?

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, technically, but not I don't think.

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 4>Wait, Amy, it's a woman who wrote the episode.

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 3>Well then how does she not know this because that

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:23.640
<v Speaker 3>was strange.

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Technically you can find out before you miss your period

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 2>three weeks I mean that would be before you miss

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 2>your period.

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 3>No, but can you find out? So basically, she's three

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 3>weeks she had sex and it's been three weeks. Does

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 3>a pregnancy test work?

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 2>Then it can work like a week before your missed period.

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 2>So technically, yes, yes, it's dice, but technically, yes, that

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 2>is not the normal. That's not the normal.

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, so that was a little hanky.

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 4>I may say, just felt like they're trying to speak.

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:01.120
<v Speaker 4>It's like they're dragging on Lane story line but speeding

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 4>it up at the same time. Do you know what

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Like, let's just give her like so many

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.199
<v Speaker 4>scenes that we kind of don't want to see. But

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 4>also suddenly she's pregnant.

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Did somebody go like, what are we going to do

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 3>with Lane? Aha, let's make her pregnant.

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 2>It would be different if they like if she I

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I think for me, it would be different

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>if she went on her honeymoon she had sex with

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 2>the first time. She liked it and she was excited

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:30.479
<v Speaker 2>about being with Zach. But it's just like it was

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 2>had sex with this first time on the beach. It

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 2>was the worst thing ever. I never want to have

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 2>sex again. That was a weird honeymoon. YadA, YadA, YadA

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 2>to Oh and by the way, I'm pregnant.

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I just don't feel like they're serving I actually need

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>justice in this.

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 4>I actually wouldn't hate if the sex was bad all

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 4>that and then like they come back and they're like,

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 4>maybe we should like try again and like those kind

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 4>of conversations. Yeah, like I think that would be better

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 4>than just like all right, well now we really don't

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 4>ever have to have sex again, because.

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 3>I get I think they had sex at the end

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 3>of the episode when they finally hugged, well, they kind.

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Of start and they were like really trying to make

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Lane look pregnant. Yeah, three, shirt was lifting and wait,

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>not for a bump.

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 3>I didn't notice that. I didn't you noticing me?

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 4>Like they literally like her her shirt her pants were

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 4>so low that her shirt was high and it tried

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 4>to they tried to show a bump.

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Were you sure it wasn't.

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 4>Just like, no, they've never showed her skin like that, Like.

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Can Jackie find that while we continue so that when.

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>We to what, Yeah, yeah, they showed her skin and

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>it did look like there was a bump.

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 4>They've never done that ever.

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 2>They I don't think Lane Lane's has showed anything but

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 2>arms exactly.

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 3>I need to see that. So we go to the

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Dragonfly for a scene that I love because the girls

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 3>are coming in for their tea. Michelle is having the

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 3>time of his life. The one girl that's just like

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 3>the back you know, the sneakers girl later that's shoving

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 3>food in her mouth and wall and like, I love

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 3>that girl and I know a.

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.479
<v Speaker 2>Little with the shoes. She's so cute.

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 3>The whole thing was so cute and Michelle is just like,

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 3>you must take me and we have the sticky note,

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 3>I owe you, you know whatever. That whole everything about

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 3>it was so good. And setting up that they're going

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 3>to the Katillion.

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 2>I think Michelle, if he could would be like would

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 2>be in the like it would go through Is it

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>going through a kittilion? What's the correct burbon?

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 3>I just except going to kotillion, like he would.

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Go to Kotilion, or like Ailian, like he would be

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 2>one of the one the girl, oh my god, it's.

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 3>So cute, like he gets her to dance this the

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 3>whole he took paul Anka all of it. It was

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 3>very clever and with the girls in the background. I

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 3>could have watched those girls for so much longer, just

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 3>all their funny stuff and Emily telling him about the

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 3>forks and that's where we learn you don't put the

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 3>knife down on the somewhat fine linen, but much more

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 3>fancy linen for the it was great.

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 2>I agree. I loved everything about the Katilion.

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Then the scene that I really did not care for.

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 3>We're back at the apartment and it's like Zuck keeps

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 3>forgetting that they're pregnant, Like it's.

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Like he's like seeing her to drink a beer and ending.

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was so dumb. That was just so

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 3>dumb dumb. Then we go to the library and I

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 3>enjoyed this scene quite a bit. Lane's reading what to

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Expect when You're Expecting and all the books and she's

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 3>losing her mind and Rory's trying to read from books

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 3>how to sext and the whole thing. That was a

0:31:56.440 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 3>cute scene and Lane was Lane.

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Was Rory too, like going to books again and like

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 2>trying to read up on it or well it.

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 3>Is so Rory, right, like of course she's gonna copy

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 3>out of a book her first sext and then Christopher

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 3>calls to go to dinner. It was all good.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 4>I think the one the one thing for me is

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 4>like and maybe for going back to the Lane storyline

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 4>is like she just sects so immature. I'm like, at

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 4>this point they're probably what twenty one, twenty two, twenty one, Yeah,

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 4>like it just for me, I'm like, you're not sixteen, Lane, Like,

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but that's.

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 3>The I agree with you, except for in this scene

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 3>I thought she seemed twenty one where she was sort

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 3>of telling Rory no sex, do it like she was

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 3>much more sassy Lane, And so I don't.

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Know, you know what, I'm just I'm gonna go out

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>on a limb here. I don't think that's the show

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think that was a mistake.

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 3>Talk to me. I had a feeling you would feel

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 3>this way.

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>It just is it's not within the parameter of what

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>has already been set up that's appropriate for the show.

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you think. I don't think the audience appreciated.

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I think a large part of the audience didn't appreciate

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the sexting, the lay stuff, with how horrible the marriage

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>is and how out of touch they are. And I

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>don't think a lot of what we saw here in

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>this episode, now that I think about it a little

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>bit reflected the values of the show or the values

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>that the show has always represented to this fan base.

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 3>I had a feeling you might feel this way because

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 3>basically what it did, in my opinion is the show

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 3>is very PG and this took it to PG thirteen.

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 3>I personally liked it. I was ready for it. I

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 3>enjoyed that last scene with But I'll be interested to

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 3>see what other fans think because I think there will

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 3>be people who agree with you.

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm a little indifferent because, like I didn't mind it.

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 4>Like I've seen shows obviously that have talked about sex

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 4>way more, but I think for this show, it just

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 4>came kind of out of left field right off the

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 4>bat in the first three episodes of season seven, like

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 4>maybe if you sprinkled it in sure, but now this

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 4>is three up? Is it two or three three episodes

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 4>of like sex talk, and so I think for having

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 4>six seasons of like the only time sex being mentioned

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 4>is like Lorelei sleeping with someone.

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Because Rory lost her virginity. On this show, you guys

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 3>do a married man. They've definitely gone there.

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:33.319
<v Speaker 4>But it wasn't to detail of like how it was

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 4>where they talked about it so much. I think, like

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 4>they mentioned it with Dean, but I think this is

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 4>just like now repetitive where it feels.

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 5>A little forced.

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 2>It feels forced. I would say the Dean storyline totally

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 2>like made sense, right, Like.

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 4>Not that it's a coming of age.

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a coming You're right, it's a coming of

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 2>age story. But I do agree with you. The sex

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.919
<v Speaker 2>scene storyline and Lane getting pregnant is just feels so

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 2>jammed down, like our throats. I don't know how to

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>explain it.

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 3>It's like so.

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Forced and not in line of what I think they

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 2>would do as characters.

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:14.879
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I liked it. I you know what, I think

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 3>Rory needs to be sexting. I'm gonna say it, like

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 3>she needs to be a little more like that. And

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 3>I liked that Lane was encouraging her. And Paris of

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 3>course would be the one to think of it.

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I kind of. I don't know if I would have.

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what this means, but like I feel

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 2>like I would have maybe liked it a little bit

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:37.720
<v Speaker 2>more coming from Logan first and Rory being like, WHOA

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 2>what is this?

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 3>But that could respond. I think Rory had to go

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 3>first because she is Rory, right, and Logan knows who

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.439
<v Speaker 3>she's he's dating. If he went first, it could be

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:55.799
<v Speaker 3>interpreted as like, h cringe this guy. But because she

0:35:55.960 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 3>started it and then he was fully in m hmm,

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:04.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm not mad at it, but I respect see people.

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:08.799
<v Speaker 3>I respect another opinion, but I knew Scott wouldn't like it,

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 3>because Scott.

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>No, it's you have to understand the medium you're working in.

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>You have to understand the show, right. You risk alienating

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:28.720
<v Speaker 1>an audience by going outside of that, you know. And

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like, this business is all about staying in your lane,

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and once you established that you've dominated a lane, you

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.840
<v Speaker 1>stay there. I don't I think it was risky and

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:42.439
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it didn't work for me personally as

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a fan of the show. Some people think it's okay,

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. You know, we can disagree. It just did

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 1>not seem it didn't fit in the show for me.

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I'll give you that. It's a little something something.

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not wholesome. This is a wholesome show

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:11.399
<v Speaker 1>that takes risks in They're already taking big risks with

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.359
<v Speaker 1>the with the Emily and Richard storyline, with you know

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:18.320
<v Speaker 1>that that broken family, but the focus is this family.

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Getting into the details of how horrible the sex was

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 1>on the beach and I hate sex and I never

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>want to do sex again, and even saying the word sex, sex,

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 1>sex on the beach with Zach was awful. It was terrible.

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.919
<v Speaker 1>There's crabs. Oh, nobody wants to hear this?

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:36.399
<v Speaker 2>I do, I don't.

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it was funny, not from.

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 4>Them, not from that. I liked this.

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 3>That part I didn't like, but I did. I'm into

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 3>the sexting thing. I thought the scene with Paris was hilarious.

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was hilarious that she was sexting with Doyle.

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:49.879
<v Speaker 3>I thought the comedy was funny with Rory being grossed out,

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 3>and that Rory's copying it out of a book. I

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 3>don't mind. The pregnancy storyline is not great. The other

0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 3>one I'm okay with. I don't mind it. All right,

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 3>we'll continue, we can agree to disagree and see where

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 3>it takes us.

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So then now, right now, Arthur Godfrey somewhere is

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 1>turning over and great.

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 3>We go back to Laura's house where she's picking out

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 3>her Katillion outfit, which I thought actually was funny when

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 3>she tried on that outfit that wasn't great AND's like

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 3>and Rory reveals that she's going to go to dinner

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 3>with Christopher, and she sort of says, we're not not talking,

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:32.240
<v Speaker 3>and we kind of get that and then she's doing

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 3>hashtag relatable what every girl does.

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Ask you, Amy, I have a question for here. Why

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 1>is your Why is your boyfriend always popping up in

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>these episodes now making random phone calls to Rory and Laurela.

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for asking talking about Christopher because my first

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 3>boyfriend is Logan Christopher. My second boyfriend is Christopher. And

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 3>here's the thing. I've had some cringe with Ickstaffer, but

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 3>now I'm kinda back with him. I'm okay with him

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 3>in this episode.

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, not me.

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, we're gonna definitely agree to disagree because I sort

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:14.800
<v Speaker 3>of was enjoying him, so okay, there was something. Oh yes,

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.879
<v Speaker 3>Rory is doing what every girl does, which is send

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 3>a text and then completely stress over it your phone.

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Make a friend text you to make sure your phone

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 3>is working. I mean the whole thing.

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 4>I was like, read check to see if it went through.

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, can you send me a text so that I.

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 4>Know that you got that last one? Yeah?

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm getting a text like it's so good.

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 4>That's still relatable.

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally. It really made the episode.

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Except now it's is it blue? Did it go?

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're like, why.

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:52.360
<v Speaker 3>Am I green? Why did I go green. Okay, So

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 3>then we go back to Lane's apartment. They're having their

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 3>bagel bites, and this is where they finally talk after like, well,

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 3>Brian's feel.

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 4>Did we talk about the part where Zach just is

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 4>like I think it was this scene or maybe it

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 4>was another scene where she's like, oh, I should be

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 4>drinking milk and he's like, I'm having cravings too, or

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 4>you know that, like weird.

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Was I think the scene before that was.

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I thought all these scenes were forced.

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 3>This one was the like, well, this finds freaking out.

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 3>She's like, well, I'm freaking out.

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 2>This is where they show them.

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Can someone show me this? Yeah?

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 2>And then they say this baby totally sucks that.

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, somebody showed me this bomb.

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 1>It's just not Gilmore girls, how do you say that

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't want to be in the delivery room and.

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want to cut the tube?

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Bab you know this. These are the best moments of

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 1>a father's life. I went through all of those moments

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:03.399
<v Speaker 1>and hours twenty one. How old you are, man, that's

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>your kid, and it's a beautiful moment, and I just

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 1>think that.

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 3>I think it's also ze they're freaking out right now.

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.399
<v Speaker 3>Because they're twenty one, they've been married for a day.

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 1>It's character destruction.

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.280
<v Speaker 5>He also their characters interesting.

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 3>That's an interesting Does.

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 1>He have a job, clearly not if he's in a band.

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:28.840
<v Speaker 1>He's drinking beer and playing video games as an expectant father,

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 1>which I guess somebody has. How old is he supposed

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to be in this anyway?

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Isn't he about her age a little bit older?

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 1>How old is that?

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 3>Twenty two, twenty three? Gil is obviously older.

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 1>What's Gil got to do with this?

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm just saying in the band, they're like in

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 3>the band, I think the three of them are all

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 3>about the same age. And then he's I'm not looping

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 3>him in. He's obviously older.

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:01.959
<v Speaker 1>Sent the Let me look, you know, this episode keeps

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.839
<v Speaker 1>going off the rails, and you know it gets back

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>on from time to time.

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 3>You've got I think that her shirt just went up.

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 2>No, this is not here that.

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 1>It did go up, But I just think it's I

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know, right, I maybe I agree. I don't know

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 1>if they were intentionally trying to show a bump. I

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>just think during the hug and it was so passionate

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 1>that her shirt went up a little bit and revealed

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>her stomach.

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 4>But like my thought process was like they they would

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 4>have fixed that or redone the scene, right if they

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:34.240
<v Speaker 4>didn't want her skin showing.

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look at the video I just sat. It's a

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 2>little bit clearer there.

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 3>I just think she's a day pregnant. Okay, hold on watching.

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that'stically.

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but we're saying like they made her wear something

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 3>like I don't know, they did stomach.

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 2>They liked that shot, like for I don't know, I

0:42:59.239 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 4>I think maybe I don't know, Danielle, when did you

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 4>start showing with your first baby?

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 2>You don't show to like four months?

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's that's what I was gonna say, is like,

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:10.760
<v Speaker 4>I think.

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 3>Our shirt just went up.

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I think our shirt just went up. I don't think

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>we should make a thing about this too, because it's

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 1>not correct. That's what I love, trying to show a bump, right.

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 3>That's what I look like if my shirt goes.

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.839
<v Speaker 2>I totally disagree. I think when they were shooting this,

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 2>they liked that. They liked that that her her shirt

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 2>went up and we saw her stomach because we never

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 2>have seen Lane's stomach before this.

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Oh God, For some ofthing that just took me

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:37.520
<v Speaker 3>back to when she was like petting that guy's hair,

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 3>like episode two Good Old Days. We go now to

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 3>the Ketillion and Michelle is living his best life. He

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 3>is so stoked he got Loralai a ginormous cassage. She's

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 3>all mad she didn't get him a boot near. I mean,

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 3>it is so good. She sees the Caroline girl who's

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 3>sort of the mini Loreli wearing the converse, and they

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 3>wave and Charlotte is introducing her to the grandparents and

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:14.880
<v Speaker 3>they're all so very polite, and Michelle gets sort of

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 3>dance and she's having a good time. I mean, that

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 3>was really cute. There are moments where she doesn't hate

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 3>the world she's from. She just gives it a try.

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 4>And she was so cute with Charlotte, who was talking

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 4>about the dance, and like, you know, maybe it made

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 4>me think of I kind of wish that we got

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:36.240
<v Speaker 4>more scenes of her with April.

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, you know, honestly, I felt that even this stuff

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>was forced as well. You know, Michelle debanding to go

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 1>to the Cotillion. I mean, it's quite quite odd, you know,

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I liked it.

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that didn't bother me that, like something Michelle would do.

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Because he's so like fancy pants and it is like

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:04.760
<v Speaker 2>he's with his people. Finally, yeah, he's found his group

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 2>of peeps.

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 3>I liked all that. I liked it for some reason.

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:14.439
<v Speaker 3>I was very drawn to the Charlotte character. I could

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 3>have had many episodes with her.

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I was drawn to Lorelei's character in the Kilian group,

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 2>like I would have loved to hear them have more

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 2>of an interaction because for the most part, it was

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 2>just like Loreal's like, I got eyes on you, I

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:30.799
<v Speaker 2>know who you are, I get you, I understand you.

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 2>But they didn't really have, you know, a.

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Scene, and she was so cute. Okay, so then we

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:38.359
<v Speaker 3>get back to that. We're back at the kitchen at

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 3>the Gilmours and Chris, Christopher, and Rory are splitting up

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:44.320
<v Speaker 3>the food and feeding paul Anka some key lime pie.

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 3>I even thought the brownie line was funny. He's like,

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 3>you ordered a brownie, right, but like only one. I

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.320
<v Speaker 3>thought that they had a cue banter. And then Christopher

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 3>and Lorlyi are sort of have their awkward moment and

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 3>she offers him coffee and then he really just spills

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:03.719
<v Speaker 3>his gut, which I get what.

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 2>He's all in. It's his version of being all in.

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Gosh, so I don't know what else he was supposed

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 3>to do. It's like it was a little over the top.

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, I'm like, okay, respect.

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean an honest moment, right, Yeah, you know

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:23.240
<v Speaker 1>he's we don't want him there in the first place.

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>But he stood there and face the music and said,

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, unpacked his feelings. And I thought he did

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:36.280
<v Speaker 1>it in an exemplary way. He was honest, and he left.

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:38.799
<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you this and then I'll tell you

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:43.319
<v Speaker 3>the thing that everybody asks about this scene. So you're Christopher, right,

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 3>And I know a lot of people are mad at

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:48.439
<v Speaker 3>Christopher that he slept with Laura Lai right, Like, they're

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 3>so mad about it. They're like, why would he do that?

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.600
<v Speaker 3>He should have been her friend, he should have been

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 3>there for her. But if we are to take it

0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:58.840
<v Speaker 3>at face value that he loves her and he's so

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.799
<v Speaker 3>in love with her, she's the one for him and

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:04.800
<v Speaker 3>he's finally realized that and she knocks at his door,

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 3>I would I don't think very many quote friends in

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 3>that position would say no.

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Christopher's in the wrong with that. I

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 2>do think Laurel is the one that's wrong for going there,

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 2>and I like he's just he's taking her lead. You know,

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 2>she's the one that's leading this relationship. Really, she's the

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:37.360
<v Speaker 2>one that's sparking a fire back into it and he's

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 2>following it.

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:42.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree with you. I don't know if Scott

0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 3>and Tarr have a different take on it.

0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:47.920
<v Speaker 4>No, I agree because she kind of opened the door

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.319
<v Speaker 4>for that to happen, Like I don't. He wasn't going

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 4>to stumble into her house like he knows that she's engaged.

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 4>But I get what you're saying, like if that, if

0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 4>she came in his door, so he took it.

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Even if you have episodes ago when she was super

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 2>drunk at the wedding, he slept on the chair, you know,

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:06.840
<v Speaker 2>like he.

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:09.279
<v Speaker 3>Is a right, that's a great point. He was a

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 3>good guy. He's not taking advantage of her, No, just

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:15.319
<v Speaker 3>following her lead. But he's definitely we knew at the.

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Wedding, stop parasite. He turns up when.

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I know you, I get why you

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 3>don't like him, But at the same time, I'm not

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:23.919
<v Speaker 3>sure he's so.

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:25.839
<v Speaker 1>We're not supposed to like him.

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 4>Well, Scott, I understand what you mean when like he

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:30.279
<v Speaker 4>just shows up, but this time it actually really was

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:33.720
<v Speaker 4>Laurel opening the door and then Rory calling or sorry

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 4>Rory saying like, yeah, let's go to dinner. So like

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 4>he did get the invite.

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 2>He is a parasite, Like, yeah, for sure, he is

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 2>a parasite, but he's not to blame in my opinion.

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:44.359
<v Speaker 5>You know, Laurel.

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Did remind me if Laurel I set because all of

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 1>this spills onto Rory as well, right as well? Right,

0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:01.879
<v Speaker 1>so lare behavior. You know, it's crucial here to set

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:04.799
<v Speaker 1>up these boundaries. And maybe she's just not very good.

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:08.240
<v Speaker 3>It never does that, like not to dog lor Lie,

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 3>but the minute you date.

0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:11.320
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not trying to do that, but I'm asking

0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:11.720
<v Speaker 1>a question.

0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:14.120
<v Speaker 3>No, No, I'm the one doing the dogging. I'm dogging her,

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 3>right because if you the minute you date your kids teacher,

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 3>you don't have boundaries.

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Right, There's there's no boundaries here. So like all of

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:25.799
<v Speaker 1>this wackiness and all of this chaos and hurt and

0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 1>pain is possible because you've got a seemingly responsible adult

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:36.799
<v Speaker 1>who is a great mother, right, a great person, a

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:39.440
<v Speaker 1>great mother. But you know there's no boundaries to these,

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 1>That's right. People just keep kind of walking and she's

0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's so attractive and she's so wonderful. How

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 1>people can't resist, right, and this is what we're supposed

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to believe, and we do that.

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Forgot about Digger too, Like you know, she.

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Has to dat your dad's business arch or he does it,

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 3>and she has no boundaries for Richard and Emily or Rory.

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Now I have a question based on something Scott said,

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 3>we're not supposed to like Christopher. I disagree. I think

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 3>we're supposed to like him a little bit.

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 2>I think we're supposed to understand him. I don't think

0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:24.920
<v Speaker 2>we're supposed to like him. I think we're supposed to

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:25.920
<v Speaker 2>understand him.

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Because I don't think he's seven is a desperate attempt

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:32.279
<v Speaker 1>to try to rehabilitate a character that's not rehabilitate to.

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Bold, I don't. I think throughout the course.

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Of the SERI it's such an awkward season.

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'm saying you may be right, but

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:42.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, throughout the course of the season, I

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:46.400
<v Speaker 3>don't think Christopher is the villain. I think we're supposed

0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:51.320
<v Speaker 3>to like him a little bit because I actually felt

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:55.280
<v Speaker 3>for her before when they were kind of hooking up again,

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.400
<v Speaker 3>and then then he finds out that Sherry's pregnant and

0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:01.360
<v Speaker 3>he goes back to Sherry. That was painful. And we

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:04.239
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have pain like that if we were supposed to

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:07.279
<v Speaker 3>hate him, we'd be like, praise the Lord, get rid

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:11.640
<v Speaker 3>of this loser. No, we're drawn. I can only speak

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 3>for myself. I'm a little bit drawn to Christopher. I

0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:19.920
<v Speaker 3>don't hate him. I do there's things about him I like,

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:23.319
<v Speaker 3>and I'm intrigued. If he was the villain, I'd be like,

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:25.760
<v Speaker 3>he sucks, Like I'm trying to think of a villain

0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:28.799
<v Speaker 3>Lex Luthor. I hate Lex Luthor, Like guy sucks.

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:33.879
<v Speaker 4>I think having a show also, I get what you're saying, Amy,

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:36.200
<v Speaker 4>I think the show also may have like changed him

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:38.800
<v Speaker 4>a little when like suddenly he got all this money

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 4>and he wanted to be Rory's dad and so like

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 4>it makes the audience want to care for him because

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:49.920
<v Speaker 4>now he can support his daughter. And I'm not saying

0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 4>that's how it should be in any situation, in every situation,

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 4>but I think for Chris Christopher, like that was kind

0:51:59.960 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 4>of of his redemption.

0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Take care of Rory.

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so these two Laurelin and Christopher are not speaking

0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:14.839
<v Speaker 1>right now. Correct, they're not hang on, hang on right,

0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:17.399
<v Speaker 1>I know, right, I got that, but they're not right now.

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:19.320
<v Speaker 1>They're not talking. They're not speaking.

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:22.759
<v Speaker 4>Well, she just didn't return his phone call.

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Rory has an automobile, correct, Yeah, so he

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 1>forces he makes a phone call and if I'll come

0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:33.120
<v Speaker 1>pick you up and then i'll drop you off and

0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll be around and I'll hang around. This is the

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:36.400
<v Speaker 1>parasitic nature of this character.

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:37.240
<v Speaker 4>That's her dad.

0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think a dad is ever gonna say, hey,

0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:41.760
<v Speaker 3>twenty year old drive across.

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 1>She told him not to get his hopes up after

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:51.799
<v Speaker 1>the first after they slept together, right. She tried to

0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:58.240
<v Speaker 1>correct her mistake with him, like, please respect my wishes.

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:02.359
<v Speaker 1>This isn't going any farther her, you know. And here

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:04.840
<v Speaker 1>he is making it's fine to go have dinner with

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:07.400
<v Speaker 1>your daughter, but at least respect laurelized space.

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's a good point.

0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:13.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to.

0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to f up your relationship with your mom,

0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to f up your world because

0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I came picked you up, and you know, I'm trying

0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:23.479
<v Speaker 1>to create a situation where I'm going to run into

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Laurel I because I love her so much, because I

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 1>can't control myself because I have no boaler. It's like

0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:29.800
<v Speaker 1>two people that then a boundary.

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:32.600
<v Speaker 3>I did think of that. I actually did think of that.

0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:36.879
<v Speaker 4>He also didn't have to come in, like he could

0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:37.520
<v Speaker 4>have dropped her.

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Off, he thought, and then just driven home.

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 3>And actually thought the coming in was the boundary cross

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:47.840
<v Speaker 3>not the picking up, because think about how many divorced

0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:51.080
<v Speaker 3>parents they picked their kids up. They wait outside, or

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:53.320
<v Speaker 3>they they knock on the door, and the other person

0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:58.720
<v Speaker 3>invites them in whatever, into the kitchen. Unless Rory was like, no, dad,

0:53:58.719 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 3>come in. We don't know.

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I think it was all fine until he

0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:08.319
<v Speaker 4>came into the kitchen. Like everything else about them going

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:09.719
<v Speaker 4>to dinner together, I didn't mind.

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:11.880
<v Speaker 1>It's not acting like adults.

0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so we've got two more super important things. The

0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:20.480
<v Speaker 3>sexting begins. I know how I feel. How do you

0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 3>all feel?

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to I don't know how to answer this.

0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's not it's a different show. All of

0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a sudden it's euphoria.

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 4>I thought. The one thing that was kind of dumb

0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:32.959
<v Speaker 4>is that she responded, but she never saw it because

0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:34.720
<v Speaker 4>she's been checking that phone like crazy.

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Well went into some weird secret envelope or something. I

0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:39.440
<v Speaker 3>don't remember how the side gets.

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:39.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't remember.

0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, maybe it's because of the time. I don't remember

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:47.400
<v Speaker 4>how it worked. But I weirdly didn't hate it at all.

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I like Logan sexting, like, you know what, I go

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:53.480
<v Speaker 2>for it, Logan, you do you like? I think? I

0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:55.800
<v Speaker 2>think it's it feels right coming from Logan.

0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:59.359
<v Speaker 5>That's why, especially his reaction, what this feels like.

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:01.440
<v Speaker 1>This feels like a spin off show.

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:04.120
<v Speaker 3>I would have love that spin off.

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:08.600
<v Speaker 1>This feels like a spin off show starring where like Laurel,

0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I and Luca, the supporting characters, Lane and Rory are

0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the main characters. So we're kind of what you're saying.

0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:17.320
<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't even feel like Gilmore Girls anymore.

0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:23.400
<v Speaker 3>I I respectfully disagree. This episode felt pretty good to me,

0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 3>and I like, I think it's maybe because I crush

0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:29.680
<v Speaker 3>on Logan so hard. When she calls him and was like,

0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:31.520
<v Speaker 3>did you get my text? And he's like, yeah, I

0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:34.040
<v Speaker 3>got your I was so in. I was like, oh,

0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:36.640
<v Speaker 3>I got I got our text.

0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 2>He's also just giving Rory what every girl wants.

0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:40.560
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 2>No, that was a good text, you know, and you

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 2>know he crushed it, freaking Logan crushed.

0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:49.960
<v Speaker 3>I agree, and he wrote back something. He leveled it

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 3>up like it was like poker, I'll see your whatever,

0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:56.840
<v Speaker 3>and I raise you. And obviously I thought it was

0:55:56.920 --> 0:55:59.040
<v Speaker 3>exactly cute when she's like, I can't do it while

0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm on the phone with you. The whole thing was cute.

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 4>I liked it, and the banter between them with the

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:07.520
<v Speaker 4>sex thing was I liked it. I liked it more

0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:09.319
<v Speaker 4>than the conversation with Laine about it.

0:56:10.160 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 3>And then we go upstairs for the either gut punch.

0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Or gut punch.

0:56:19.600 --> 0:56:28.239
<v Speaker 3>For me, it was a sorry, sorry y'all. So, Scott,

0:56:28.680 --> 0:56:31.320
<v Speaker 3>how do you feel that Laura Lai called Christopher and

0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:33.720
<v Speaker 3>don't let me forget to say the thing that everyone

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 3>comments on, don't let me forget.

0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:38.319
<v Speaker 1>It's just at this point it's just a hack show.

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:45.319
<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not it's just melodrama, you know, It's

0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:47.680
<v Speaker 1>it's so off the rails it's hard to follow it.

0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Now you know, you know, I'm I'm entertained by some

0:56:55.400 --> 0:56:58.720
<v Speaker 1>of the scenes. Some of it feels like the old show,

0:56:58.800 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 1>but most of it doesn't.

0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:01.080
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:57:01.120 --> 0:57:04.040
<v Speaker 2>What's annoying is that every episode in season seven so far,

0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:06.760
<v Speaker 2>and granted I know there's only three, but has ended

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:13.120
<v Speaker 2>with Lorelei seeking Christopher. Yeah, you know, it's like, haven'm

0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:14.640
<v Speaker 2>be together on an even episode two?

0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Didn episode two end?

0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:19.600
<v Speaker 1>You know what I think it's. I think it's the

0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:24.760
<v Speaker 1>unwillingness of the How do I say this without sounding

0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:34.720
<v Speaker 1>like a complete tool, sounding like a well, it wasn't

0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 1>it hasn't been a problem so far from now.

0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 3>I want to hear.

0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess you know, when you destroy a character,

0:57:48.360 --> 0:57:51.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like who cares what anybody does?

0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Luke and Laurel I were such a big

0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:57.120
<v Speaker 1>part of that show, and now Luke's being treated like,

0:57:57.320 --> 0:57:59.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, just just this sort of like supporting character,

0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and now it doesn't really matter, and now we can

0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:06.680
<v Speaker 1>explore this Christopher thing. And I just think that that's

0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:08.800
<v Speaker 1>where the mistake was made, right.

0:58:10.400 --> 0:58:12.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they kind of put him on like the back burner,

0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:15.320
<v Speaker 4>Like suddenly Christopher is getting more scenes than Luke.

0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he and he didn't earn him. Yeah, and

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:23.200
<v Speaker 1>then there's there's there's no justification for it, there's no

0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:28.040
<v Speaker 1>logic to it, there's no but I mean, it is

0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the nature of life. Sometimes things happen out of the

0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:33.920
<v Speaker 1>blue and they're you know, they're shocking, and it's just

0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:36.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe they could have handled it, they've done it a

0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:38.440
<v Speaker 1>little in a little more artful way, I guess. I

0:58:38.480 --> 0:58:41.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know. And also it just feels so ham handed

0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:46.240
<v Speaker 1>and a character just sort of discarded, you know, I think.

0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I think it was so disappointing for

0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the fans, because nobody's really acting like themselves anymore. It's

0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 1>hard to recognize the show. So anyway, there you go.

0:58:56.440 --> 0:59:00.080
<v Speaker 3>So okay, I don't let that sink in. I I

0:59:01.480 --> 0:59:05.000
<v Speaker 3>don't disagree or agree. I'm sort of like, there definitely

0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:08.400
<v Speaker 3>are things about season seven where you're like, what's going on?

0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:11.840
<v Speaker 3>But then there's also things where are like, yeah, gilmore girls.

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:12.760
<v Speaker 3>So I'm sort of in the middle.

0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there is if you if you

0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:17.960
<v Speaker 1>have a successful relationship and a show the deep the

0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:22.919
<v Speaker 1>taps so deeply in to the fantasy life of a dedicated,

0:59:23.280 --> 0:59:27.479
<v Speaker 1>religiously dedicated fan base. I don't know how you mess

0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 1>with that. I thought that that's a mistake.

0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know that. They know how to not

0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:34.680
<v Speaker 3>mess with it.

0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:37.040
<v Speaker 1>If you look at look, if you look at Luke

0:59:37.120 --> 0:59:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Laurelai as public service. Okay, let's just look at it

0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:43.280
<v Speaker 1>like this has been offered to the world. This makes

0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:45.840
<v Speaker 1>people feel good, This heals people. And I only sound

0:59:46.160 --> 0:59:51.640
<v Speaker 1>too nutty about it. No, no, but fans worship this relationship.

0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:56.440
<v Speaker 1>This is this is relationship goals. You know, to find

0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:59.120
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Luke to be a woman like laurel

0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I to be together in a new relationship that's that

1:00:03.080 --> 1:00:08.520
<v Speaker 1>full and that passionate and that fraught with yes, anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>that it's going to break up somehow. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really on tender hooks but a lot of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's kind of the beauty of it. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>magic of it. The sparks are flying all of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you idealize something so much for six seasons. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a big chunk of people's lives.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's true, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Cross it away, huge misstep. Sorry, that's my two cents.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna shut up now.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, never shut up. There is a moment in

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<v Speaker 3>the kitchen that many people are conflicted about, which I

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<v Speaker 3>did listen to seven times. So there are many people

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<v Speaker 3>that think. Christopher says Lauren that he calls her Lauren,

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<v Speaker 3>and if we replay the scene, you'll see it. He

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<v Speaker 3>actually upon really listening, he's saying lore And did anybody notice?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't. But should we should we?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Can't it? Well it? Let us watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can. I can pull it up and then I'll

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<v Speaker 2>put this sound on my computer.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, good if you really listen in it's lore and

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<v Speaker 3>it was so right Lauren.

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<v Speaker 4>You may not see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let now, but I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Know Lauren, one thinks, he says Lauren.

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<v Speaker 4>He definitely says Lauren.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he says, but it was so right. Do it again.

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<v Speaker 4>You do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so right, Lauren.

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<v Speaker 3>You may not see that right now, but or and

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<v Speaker 3>you may not see that right now, I can see it.

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<v Speaker 2>The English subtitles say too.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you guys give it?

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<v Speaker 2>I give it eight out of ten. Peb and Jay Sandwiches, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Give it six point eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Pop Tarts, I'm giving it nine. I owe you from

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<v Speaker 3>Lorli stickies. M.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cute.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, I got a couple of chuckles out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I appreciate that. So, but I do not

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<v Speaker 1>like witnessing characters being taken behind the shed and shot

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of the head, as it were. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're witnessing here with two of the most iconic,

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<v Speaker 1>delightful characters. And so I'm going to give it half

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<v Speaker 1>a point. Oh my god, not even no, not a

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<v Speaker 1>full point. No, no way, I can't. I can't support

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<v Speaker 1>this level of destruction.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just did you feel this way when you were

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<v Speaker 3>doing it?

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't even on set for this episode, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was just happy that I wasn't there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to be around this.

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<v Speaker 4>Were the Were the vibes on set different in this season?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, they were, they were. It was. Look, it's

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<v Speaker 1>always good to have a job that long. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so rare, and so I think everybody I was

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<v Speaker 1>pleased that I had a job. But I I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it just what I'm witnessing here. Maybe maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was a good idea once Amy and Dan left the show,

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody sort of packed up and left with him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe the legacy of the show would have

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<v Speaker 1>been a little more respected, you know, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>It definitely is well respected.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I didn't say that it wasn't. I said

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<v Speaker 1>more respected versus I think once. I think once the

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<v Speaker 1>original creators exit, then it should be done. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>like this, it cannot be replicated. And I remember thinking

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<v Speaker 1>during this episode that I almost regretted being involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventh season. But it's, you know, it's difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>walk away. Actually it's you can't walk away from the job.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like, you know, this show is just being

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed before our eyes, and it's something that means the

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<v Speaker 1>world to so many people. And now I understand what

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<v Speaker 1>they say. They can't they just skip season seven, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't watch it when they rewatch it, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really trying to be positive about this. Don't get

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<v Speaker 1>me wrong. I'm really trying. And there was some good

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<v Speaker 1>things in this and there's some good writing, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just shows how hard it is to replicate something so

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<v Speaker 1>unique coming from you know what. You have to admit

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<v Speaker 1>with Amy and Dan are two geniuses, right are at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the business, the top of their craft.

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<v Speaker 3>And this does happen to shows a showrunner leaves and

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<v Speaker 3>the show the bucket that does happen. You're not This

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<v Speaker 3>isn't the only thing. I won't go as far as

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<v Speaker 3>to say that's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And great writers all on this show season seven, in

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<v Speaker 1>their own right, could have gone on to write incredibly original, fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>award winning shows, super talented people. But to ask somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to like, hey, you want to replace Brando on Broadway

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<v Speaker 1>and Streetcar named Desire and try to do what he did,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, have fun, not gonna happen. You're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>you just go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. It's it's different because like a good example I

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<v Speaker 4>have is like I've I mean, we love you, buddy,

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<v Speaker 4>Like greas Anatomy just renewed for season twenty one and

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<v Speaker 4>Shonda Rhyme's left I don't even know how many seasons ago,

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<v Speaker 4>and like, as someone who's watched the whole time, I

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<v Speaker 4>definitely notice a shift, but then it would always come back.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's funny because I still love the show and Amy,

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<v Speaker 4>I know you watch too, But there's something so different

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<v Speaker 4>about Gilmore where it makes me wonder if they got

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<v Speaker 4>a season eight maybe like they needed to work out

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<v Speaker 4>the kinks like without Amy and Dan in season seven?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what I mean? And maybe there's.

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<v Speaker 1>No there's no way to do that. How you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to work out the kinks? What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know without without those two brains.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what Tur's point was is there are shows that

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<v Speaker 3>replace a show runner like Shonda Rhimes and you don't

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<v Speaker 3>miss a beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but where have you ever seen a show like

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<v Speaker 1>this like Gilmore Walking Dead?

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<v Speaker 3>Did it?

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<v Speaker 1>That? Is this unique?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a dialogue heavy show, is it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I mean, I'm just saying Walking Dead

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<v Speaker 3>lost their show runner, and I thought the show was

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<v Speaker 3>as good Aaron Sorkin left West Wing and I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Really show? Really they bring in Nagan destroys the show.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? You felt that was a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's all part of the comic book. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>need a debate Walking Dead because Nigan's in the comic books.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I'm saying is Aaron Sorkin left West Wing

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<v Speaker 3>and it did continue to be an amazing show. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not saying. Look, I don't hate season seven, but I

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<v Speaker 3>do think Tara's point is taken that Gray's Anatomy lost

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<v Speaker 3>their amy Sherman Palladino, who is Shonda Rhymes, and the

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<v Speaker 3>show is still amazing. So maybe, look, I'm not saying anything,

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<v Speaker 3>but maybe there was a showrunner that could have taken over.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the problem was it all happened unexpectedly, where

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<v Speaker 3>Shonda Rhimes maybe worked with someone for multiple years to

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<v Speaker 3>coach them up. I don't know, I'm talking out of school.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying Walking Dead maybe a comic book, and

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<v Speaker 1>they stayed true to it with Nigan, but now Gilmore

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<v Speaker 1>Girls season seven is turned into a comic book.

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<v Speaker 3>See, I disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not care caricatures of once great characters. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't recognize him and it's hard to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, see, I loved this. I really really enjoyed this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I think there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>who agree with you. I think there's a majority of

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<v Speaker 3>people that we're hearing from that do not like season

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<v Speaker 3>seven that until episode nineteen, they all turn around on

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<v Speaker 3>episode nineteen, which we're not there yet. I enjoyed this

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<v Speaker 3>episode quite quite a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Personally. It's hard to watch. You know, you put in

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<v Speaker 1>six years of hard work into something and everything you

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<v Speaker 1>have inside you to create a character, right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>just to see it all sort of pissed on?

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<v Speaker 3>And what do you blame? Hard It's hard to blame

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<v Speaker 3>how what do you blame that on the showrunners leaving?

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<v Speaker 3>Or do you blame the network because they didn't pay

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<v Speaker 3>them what they want? I don't give them the two seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that there's anybody to blame. It's just something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just something that happens, you know, it's just something

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<v Speaker 1>that it's just something that happened, and you sort of, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't believe it's happening, but it's, but it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're not there as much, and you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>at the able reads and you read these stories and

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<v Speaker 1>storylines and you're just sort of like, hmm, yeah, wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but again your powerless and you are powerless to do

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<v Speaker 1>anything about it, right, just sort of show up and

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<v Speaker 1>do your job, you know, well you can.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not dislike this episode, But we'll see what

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<v Speaker 3>happens next week. I don't know, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if maybe at episode nineteen, which is you know, feels

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<v Speaker 3>a long way from now, maybe you'll have a turn around.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, well let's now that we're going to leave

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<v Speaker 1>it on a high note. What an enjoyable listener next week.

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<v Speaker 3>It's wonderful, It's marvelous. It kept making me think of

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<v Speaker 3>the marvelous missus Maisel.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, we're not that lucky. We're not that lucky. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you everybody, truly the best fans on the planet,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will we will see you next time for

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<v Speaker 1>another rollicking, hilarious, dramatic episode of Gilmore Girl Season seven,

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<v Speaker 1>episode four, What what entitled?

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<v Speaker 3>Amy give us Wonderfuls?

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<v Speaker 1>There you go? All right, everybody, stay safe, much love,

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