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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: You know what, guys, I didn't hate it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't hate it either.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there are parts I had notes on, but it

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Speaker 4: wasn't overall terrible.

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Speaker 1: There was some suckiness, there wasn't a lot.

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Speaker 2: Emily is back in that saved this episode.

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Speaker 3: And Richard and Richard back got me in the.

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Speaker 2: Group Friday Night Dinner finally back when I saw.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, but you need a good bad guy in this thing,

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Speaker 1: and Emily's the bad guy in this thing, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's like the antagonist of the shell basically.

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Speaker 2: And even a bad guy like your entertainment.

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Speaker 1: That's what makes it so great. It's like that negative

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Speaker 1: energy versus the positive energy and its sparks fly. It's

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Speaker 1: just fantastic.

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Speaker 3: He's a little something.

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Speaker 1: She's so good.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 4: Like the second I saw the Gilmour home the driveway,

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, we're back.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of an awkward scene at the top.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think it landed. The jokes, the jokes were there,

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Speaker 1: the writing was there, it was all kind of there,

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Speaker 1: but it was off. It wasn't landing.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, it felt it felt long.

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Speaker 4: I think that like before before the little girl opened

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Speaker 4: a half from that banter.

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Speaker 3: It's funny you say that, you guys, because that was

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Speaker 3: I thought we were I thought the episode was going

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Speaker 3: to suck from that before the credits roll scene, because

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Speaker 3: it was like weird banter or Bengal or Bengal or

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Speaker 3: like it was just trying too hard and they were

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Speaker 3: trying to sqush, like let's be really really funny right

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Speaker 3: from the start and people will like us. It's kind

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Speaker 3: of like how I felt, and I was like yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, But once I got inside it started a

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Speaker 1: rock and roll.

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Speaker 3: I don't have that many flags after that.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, there's some flags. There are flags. You're going

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Speaker 1: to step around them. There's some flags.

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Speaker 3: So are people going to be tragically disappointed that Suzanne

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Speaker 1: Oh? Whoa, I just got a text from her.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to hurry up and do the synopsis so

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Speaker 2: that she doesn't take it away from me.

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Speaker 1: Trying to get me to stop you from doing it?

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Speaker 1: What No, she says, don't let dan Scott. I'm in

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Speaker 1: New York. Don't let Danielle do the thing I like being.

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Speaker 2: Okay, guys, this is season seven, episode three, the first Katilion.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna finish it. It's air date October tenth,

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Speaker 2: two thousand and six. Lorelai expects the worst from her

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Speaker 2: Emily host an afternoon tea, and Paris convinces Rory to

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Speaker 2: send scandalous texts to Logan. Meanwhile, Lane finally tells Zach

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Speaker 1: Pretty great, that's a mic drop. Ooh, I'm gonna text Uzanne.

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Speaker 1: Uh you should worry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, your queendom may be going away.

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Speaker 1: The throne Maybe usurped Like I said.

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Speaker 3: I didn't hate it, and I really don't as a whole.

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Speaker 1: It all right, let's go.

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Speaker 3: I also thought Lauren Graham looked so good in this

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Speaker 3: entire episode. You know this is that she ever looked

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Speaker 2: This may be the dumbest and very very late revelation

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Speaker 3: It was just weird.

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Speaker 2: It was so weird.

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Speaker 1: Well that, yeah, but I was was even this.

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Speaker 3: I was in one in the diner, a good scene

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Speaker 3: actually with Rory, very good scene. I have a comment

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Speaker 2: There amongst the people, maybe amongst us as well.

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Speaker 3: Maybe so she would just start going through it. We

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Speaker 1: The horse and let's get the thing moving.

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Speaker 4: But when then when they give the drink quarters to

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Speaker 4: the little girl, Oh my.

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Speaker 3: God, did everybody think, like, what is going on? Did

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Speaker 3: they hire a maid that is eleven?

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Speaker 1: But I knew it was going to pay off and

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Speaker 1: she said, is that legal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she was the best in that whole scene. Plus

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Speaker 3: with the little girl being like, oh, your mother warned

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Speaker 1: It was right, But she was so sweet about it.

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Speaker 1: She wasn't you know, she's cast perfectly. She was very keen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The only part was when Emily yielded her about

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Speaker 1: That was but that that guarantees that Emily is the

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Speaker 3: I guess are you taking us through what? Scott? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I am pardon me? Let me.

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Speaker 1: I retired from that.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're so good at that about.

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Speaker 1: I retired from that?

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Speaker 3: When did you retire?

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Speaker 1: I retired last week? And you know, because your.

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Speaker 3: That was just a one time thing, because of your tooth.

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Speaker 1: This will be in perpetuity.

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Speaker 3: The people are not going to like this.

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Speaker 1: B s.

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Speaker 3: All right, so we come in.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna love.

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Speaker 3: It, They're not. They prefer I don't mind, I don't

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Speaker 1: No, you'll discuss it.

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Speaker 3: So we talked about the opening scene, which it seems

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Speaker 3: we had great banter and the whole thing. So let's

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Speaker 3: let's talk about let's talk about it. Well, all the

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Speaker 2: Emily would she would be running the Katillion joint like

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Speaker 2: she This is so up her alley and I love

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Speaker 4: She always finds something to do, like she she finds

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Speaker 3: Who did Katillion here you of course, but it was

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Speaker 3: it wasn't like you guys didn't have Katillia.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even I thought it was just in like movies.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know the thing.

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Speaker 3: No, we had it in either seventh or eighth grade.

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Speaker 3: But it's much more casual than this. It's where you

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Speaker 3: learn to dance, you learn to like dance with boys.

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Speaker 3: And they still have it now in my town. And

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Speaker 3: It's like five weeks of Katillian and they go to

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Speaker 3: and they learn to dance and they have.

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Speaker 5: To would you say, weren't they eleven.

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Speaker 2: Eleven in this?

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Speaker 3: I think it was the right age. It's about seventh grade.

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Speaker 4: Really when I have you guys seen the movie at

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Speaker 4: Danielle You probably have. She's the Man with Amanda Bynes

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Speaker 4: they're like teenagers, they're like sixteen seventeen, so I didn't

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Speaker 2: So you didn't You didn't learn like about the forks

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Speaker 3: No, that wasn't part of this arc. What Katillion was

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Speaker 3: for us, it was learning to dance. So you learned

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Speaker 3: learned No but is that Bruce Springsteen? No? But then, uh,

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Speaker 3: where did I have manners classes? I definitely had some

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Speaker 1: That interesting And what do you remember about the manners class?

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Speaker 3: Oh? The bread always the bread that you never Okay,

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Speaker 3: So here's your piece of bread, right, Yes, this is

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Speaker 3: Never never take the butter and this never never never.

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Speaker 3: So you take the butter off, the butter thing, you

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Speaker 2: And you did it.

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Speaker 3: No, you you butter each bite of bread. You don't

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Speaker 3: butter like slather it off. It's funny you guys bring

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Speaker 3: this up. So there's this place in San Francisco called

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Speaker 3: Crown and Crumpet obviously the name Crumpet, and you can

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Speaker 2: Never so my nieces, you could.

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Speaker 3: My nieces have the worst habit of this. You know,

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Speaker 3: when you've got like something on your mouth and I'm

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Speaker 3: like the whole backhand like sweatshirt. It's like no, but

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Speaker 3: the the buttering of the bread and the forks, the

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Speaker 3: forks tracked. You definitely would learn about the forks.

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Speaker 4: Did you know the internet is just learning about what

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Speaker 4: a charger is what? Because of TikTok.

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Speaker 2: That's like a very well known thing. It's the decorative

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Speaker 4: I didn't even know what it was called. And like

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Speaker 4: this TikTok went viral because the.

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Speaker 3: Girl ate off the charger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, So.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, uh etiquette expert Amy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: talk tout Okay. So once you let's say you have steak,

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Speaker 1: down first, and then you switch hands, yes, correct, and

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Speaker 1: eat with your.

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Speaker 2: Right hand right unless you're lefty, right, right, Okay, so

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Speaker 2: you can't do none of the.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, no, you can't hold the knife.

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Speaker 1: Like here's how maybe it can be justified. Maybe he's

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Speaker 3: And they have to be summer, the time has to work.

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Speaker 3: Because guys, think about it, it's worse if it's ten

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not this one.

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Speaker 1: I tell you, Thank God, we don't run a golf tour,

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Speaker 3: It makes sense, like she's like if my mom would

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Speaker 1: I think the pop tart was Luke. Do I really

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Whoa?

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Speaker 3: Who am I? Right?

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, maybe I am not as smart as you.

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Speaker 3: New hat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, new hat.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was so down too far.

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Speaker 2: I was down way too far. And you know it's

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Speaker 4: They're filming. I'm not.

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Speaker 3: So we go to the Dragonfly and I thought this

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Speaker 4: I had two flags in this scene.

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Speaker 5: And the first one, oh, you rewarded yourself. You did.

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Speaker 4: My first flag is that larelais had this hairdo in

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Speaker 3: she has a kid.

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00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: But it just sounds like I would eat those Peep

445
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 2: and Jay sanwiches. They were they weren't just like a

446
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: Peep and Jay sandwich. They were like their tea, a

447
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 2: little circle, huge.

448
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 4: And I guess it was more the way that Emily

449
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 4: said it to her, like.

450
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 5: Like I wanted.

451
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 4: I wanted something like, oh my god, I have kids now,

452
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like I feel like I needed.

453
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 3: But I think she learned her lesson at the birthday party, and.

454
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: That Emily came down so hard on her. There's she

455
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: was probably shocked her and there's really no way to

456
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: come back.

457
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 3: It was aggressively mean to I mean, gosh, that was

458
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 3: aggressive to Suki. It was like, dude, and they the

459
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 3: cuts have like the little jelly popping up.

460
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 5: It was so cute.

461
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 4: It was so well done.

462
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 3: I'm not at a cucumber sandwich zone. I did think

463
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 3: the spinach and the teeth thing was very funny because

464
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 3: if you have braces, you're like yeah yeah.

465
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 2: And Michelle was so Michelle was so good this episode.

466
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: He was I like, I need I needed him back.

467
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: To and I feel like they finally gave him a

468
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: good episode.

469
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: I totally agree, and I like circus food. Okay. Then

470
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 3: this is what also nailed the episode for me is

471
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 3: we go to Yale to the newsroom, and Paris was Paris,

472
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: but she wasn't annoying. She was actually hilarious calling out

473
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 3: the little boy. That was fully like googoo gaga over Rory.

474
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: Like the whole thing was so funny. So you see

475
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 3: the tutors doing their thing, and then you just see

476
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: Paris criticizing all of them. It was so funny. And

477
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: then she's all, I have five minutes. We can be

478
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: friends for five minutes, and this is where the sexting starts.

479
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: The whole thing was so funny and she's and Rory's like,

480
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: can you not do that? While I'm like talking to you?

481
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: I mean, it was so it was a yes, I.

482
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 2: Wish they revealed like.

483
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 5: What was it?

484
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

485
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: What was said? You know, like h.

486
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 5: Family show wonder It's so funny.

487
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 4: When I was watching it, I was like, like, I

488
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 4: forget that it's two thousand and six, And so for me,

489
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 4: I was like, does she not know what sexing is?

490
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 4: But I guess at that time, like sexing was just starting.

491
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 2: And they had their sidekicks to say that there was

492
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: heavy product placement of the sidekick.

493
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: That was mobile just right there.

494
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, all I know is I imagine Paris and Doyle

495
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 3: being filthy on the sexting.

496
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: I feel show.

497
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure is dipping her toe in a little bit

498
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: more and Logan is upping the ante. But we'll get

499
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 3: to that. So then this is the only scene that

500
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 3: I didn't didn't It's not that I didn't love it.

501
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 3: I didn't love love it. So we get to the

502
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 3: apartment and Zach and Brian are talking about sort of

503
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 3: how he thinks he's getting divorced, right, He's like it's over,

504
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 3: and then she comes in and needs to talk and

505
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: tells him she's pregnant. It was fine, It was fine.

506
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 2: I don't like anything about it. I honestly, the whole

507
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: Lane Lane storyline is really really dragging me down this season.

508
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: Like it's just over, you know, it's like everything's just

509
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: so what can I say?

510
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: I wanted Laane to like enjoy being in newlywed and like,

511
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: as where does this sounds like enjoy having sex and

512
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: enjoy like she's not you know, like enjoy her.

513
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 3: Own.

514
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: She's still with living with her with Brian, you know,

515
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: like I wanted them to have their own.

516
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: Like be a little wild. But can we talk about

517
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 3: the biggest flag in the entire episode? The honeymoon was

518
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 3: three weeks ago. He says that, Yeah, there is no

519
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 3: way she knows she's pregnant. No way, the honeymoon was

520
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 3: three weeks ago.

521
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: She hasn't even gone to the doctor yet. She just

522
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 4: did a test.

523
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 3: Dude, she hasn't even missed her period. She's not like that.

524
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 3: The math is so and this is gonna sound so mean,

525
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: but can you guys tell me who wrote this episode?

526
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 3: Was a man? A man that doesn't know what I'm saying?

527
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 2: I mean, technically, but not I don't think.

528
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: Wait, Amy, it's a woman who wrote the episode.

529
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 3: Well then how does she not know this because that

530
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 3: was strange.

531
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 2: Technically you can find out before you miss your period

532
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: three weeks I mean that would be before you miss

533
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: your period.

534
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: No, but can you find out? So basically, she's three

535
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: weeks she had sex and it's been three weeks. Does

536
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: a pregnancy test work?

537
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: Then it can work like a week before your missed period.

538
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: So technically, yes, yes, it's dice, but technically, yes, that

539
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: is not the normal. That's not the normal.

540
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 3: And yeah, so that was a little hanky.

541
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: I may say, just felt like they're trying to speak.

542
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 4: It's like they're dragging on Lane story line but speeding

543
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: it up at the same time. Do you know what

544
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 4: I mean, Like, let's just give her like so many

545
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 4: scenes that we kind of don't want to see. But

546
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 4: also suddenly she's pregnant.

547
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

548
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: Did somebody go like, what are we going to do

549
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: with Lane? Aha, let's make her pregnant.

550
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: It would be different if they like if she I

551
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: don't know. I think for me, it would be different

552
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: if she went on her honeymoon she had sex with

553
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: the first time. She liked it and she was excited

554
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 2: about being with Zach. But it's just like it was

555
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: had sex with this first time on the beach. It

556
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: was the worst thing ever. I never want to have

557
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: sex again. That was a weird honeymoon. YadA, YadA, YadA

558
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: to Oh and by the way, I'm pregnant.

559
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

560
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: I just don't feel like they're serving I actually need

561
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: justice in this.

562
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 4: I actually wouldn't hate if the sex was bad all

563
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 4: that and then like they come back and they're like,

564
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 4: maybe we should like try again and like those kind

565
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 4: of conversations. Yeah, like I think that would be better

566
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 4: than just like all right, well now we really don't

567
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 4: ever have to have sex again, because.

568
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: I get I think they had sex at the end

569
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: of the episode when they finally hugged, well, they kind.

570
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: Of start and they were like really trying to make

571
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: Lane look pregnant. Yeah, three, shirt was lifting and wait,

572
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: not for a bump.

573
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: I didn't notice that. I didn't you noticing me?

574
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 4: Like they literally like her her shirt her pants were

575
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 4: so low that her shirt was high and it tried

576
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 4: to they tried to show a bump.

577
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: Were you sure it wasn't.

578
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 4: Just like, no, they've never showed her skin like that, Like.

579
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: Can Jackie find that while we continue so that when.

580
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: We to what, Yeah, yeah, they showed her skin and

581
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: it did look like there was a bump.

582
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 4: They've never done that ever.

583
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: They I don't think Lane Lane's has showed anything but

584
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: arms exactly.

585
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: I need to see that. So we go to the

586
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: Dragonfly for a scene that I love because the girls

587
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: are coming in for their tea. Michelle is having the

588
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: time of his life. The one girl that's just like

589
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: the back you know, the sneakers girl later that's shoving

590
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 3: food in her mouth and wall and like, I love

591
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: that girl and I know a.

592
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 2: Little with the shoes. She's so cute.

593
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: The whole thing was so cute and Michelle is just like,

594
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: you must take me and we have the sticky note,

595
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: I owe you, you know whatever. That whole everything about

596
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: it was so good. And setting up that they're going

597
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: to the Katillion.

598
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: I think Michelle, if he could would be like would

599
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: be in the like it would go through Is it

600
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: going through a kittilion? What's the correct burbon?

601
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: I just except going to kotillion, like he would.

602
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: Go to Kotilion, or like Ailian, like he would be

603
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: one of the one the girl, oh my god, it's.

604
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: So cute, like he gets her to dance this the

605
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: whole he took paul Anka all of it. It was

606
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: very clever and with the girls in the background. I

607
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: could have watched those girls for so much longer, just

608
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: all their funny stuff and Emily telling him about the

609
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 3: forks and that's where we learn you don't put the

610
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: knife down on the somewhat fine linen, but much more

611
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: fancy linen for the it was great.

612
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: I agree. I loved everything about the Katilion.

613
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: Then the scene that I really did not care for.

614
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: We're back at the apartment and it's like Zuck keeps

615
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: forgetting that they're pregnant, Like it's.

616
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: Like he's like seeing her to drink a beer and ending.

617
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: I mean, it was so dumb. That was just so

618
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: dumb dumb. Then we go to the library and I

619
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: enjoyed this scene quite a bit. Lane's reading what to

620
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: Expect when You're Expecting and all the books and she's

621
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: losing her mind and Rory's trying to read from books

622
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: how to sext and the whole thing. That was a

623
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: cute scene and Lane was Lane.

624
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: Was Rory too, like going to books again and like

625
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: trying to read up on it or well it.

626
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: Is so Rory, right, like of course she's gonna copy

627
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: out of a book her first sext and then Christopher

628
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: calls to go to dinner. It was all good.

629
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 4: I think the one the one thing for me is

630
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 4: like and maybe for going back to the Lane storyline

631
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 4: is like she just sects so immature. I'm like, at

632
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 4: this point they're probably what twenty one, twenty two, twenty one, Yeah,

633
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 4: like it just for me, I'm like, you're not sixteen, Lane, Like,

634
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 4: I don't know, but that's.

635
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: The I agree with you, except for in this scene

636
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: I thought she seemed twenty one where she was sort

637
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: of telling Rory no sex, do it like she was

638
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: much more sassy Lane, And so I don't.

639
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: Know, you know what, I'm just I'm gonna go out

640
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: on a limb here. I don't think that's the show

641
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: And I think that was a mistake.

642
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: Talk to me. I had a feeling you would feel

643
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: this way.

644
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: It just is it's not within the parameter of what

645
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: has already been set up that's appropriate for the show.

646
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't think you think. I don't think the audience appreciated.

647
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: I think a large part of the audience didn't appreciate

648
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: the sexting, the lay stuff, with how horrible the marriage

649
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: is and how out of touch they are. And I

650
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of what we saw here in

651
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: this episode, now that I think about it a little

652
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: bit reflected the values of the show or the values

653
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: that the show has always represented to this fan base.

654
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 3: I had a feeling you might feel this way because

655
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: basically what it did, in my opinion is the show

656
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: is very PG and this took it to PG thirteen.

657
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: I personally liked it. I was ready for it. I

658
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: enjoyed that last scene with But I'll be interested to

659
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: see what other fans think because I think there will

660
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: be people who agree with you.

661
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: Right.

662
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a little indifferent because, like I didn't mind it.

663
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 4: Like I've seen shows obviously that have talked about sex

664
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 4: way more, but I think for this show, it just

665
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 4: came kind of out of left field right off the

666
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 4: bat in the first three episodes of season seven, like

667
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: maybe if you sprinkled it in sure, but now this

668
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 4: is three up? Is it two or three three episodes

669
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: of like sex talk, and so I think for having

670
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 4: six seasons of like the only time sex being mentioned

671
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 4: is like Lorelei sleeping with someone.

672
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: Because Rory lost her virginity. On this show, you guys

673
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: do a married man. They've definitely gone there.

674
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: But it wasn't to detail of like how it was

675
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 4: where they talked about it so much. I think, like

676
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: they mentioned it with Dean, but I think this is

677
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 4: just like now repetitive where it feels.

678
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 5: A little forced.

679
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: It feels forced. I would say the Dean storyline totally

680
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: like made sense, right, Like.

681
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 4: Not that it's a coming of age.

682
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a coming You're right, it's a coming of

683
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: age story. But I do agree with you. The sex

684
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 2: scene storyline and Lane getting pregnant is just feels so

685
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: jammed down, like our throats. I don't know how to

686
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: explain it.

687
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 3: It's like so.

688
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: Forced and not in line of what I think they

689
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: would do as characters.

690
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 3: Oh, I liked it. I you know what, I think

691
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: Rory needs to be sexting. I'm gonna say it, like

692
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: she needs to be a little more like that. And

693
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: I liked that Lane was encouraging her. And Paris of

694
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: course would be the one to think of it.

695
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of. I don't know if I would have.

696
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what this means, but like I feel

697
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: like I would have maybe liked it a little bit

698
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 2: more coming from Logan first and Rory being like, WHOA

699
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: what is this?

700
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: But that could respond. I think Rory had to go

701
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 3: first because she is Rory, right, and Logan knows who

702
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 3: she's he's dating. If he went first, it could be

703
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 3: interpreted as like, h cringe this guy. But because she

704
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: started it and then he was fully in m hmm,

705
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at it, but I respect see people.

706
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 3: I respect another opinion, but I knew Scott wouldn't like it,

707
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: because Scott.

708
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: No, it's you have to understand the medium you're working in.

709
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: You have to understand the show, right. You risk alienating

710
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: an audience by going outside of that, you know. And

711
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: it's like, this business is all about staying in your lane,

712
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: and once you established that you've dominated a lane, you

713
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: stay there. I don't I think it was risky and

714
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: I didn't think it didn't work for me personally as

715
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: a fan of the show. Some people think it's okay,

716
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: it's fine. You know, we can disagree. It just did

717
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: not seem it didn't fit in the show for me.

718
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'll give you that. It's a little something something.

719
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: You know, it's not wholesome. This is a wholesome show

720
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: that takes risks in They're already taking big risks with

721
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: the with the Emily and Richard storyline, with you know

722
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: that that broken family, but the focus is this family.

723
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: Getting into the details of how horrible the sex was

724
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: on the beach and I hate sex and I never

725
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: want to do sex again, and even saying the word sex, sex,

726
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: sex on the beach with Zach was awful. It was terrible.

727
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 1: There's crabs. Oh, nobody wants to hear this?

728
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 2: I do, I don't.

729
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was funny, not from.

730
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 4: Them, not from that. I liked this.

731
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: That part I didn't like, but I did. I'm into

732
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: the sexting thing. I thought the scene with Paris was hilarious.

733
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: I thought it was hilarious that she was sexting with Doyle.

734
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 3: I thought the comedy was funny with Rory being grossed out,

735
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: and that Rory's copying it out of a book. I

736
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 3: don't mind. The pregnancy storyline is not great. The other

737
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 3: one I'm okay with. I don't mind it. All right,

738
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: we'll continue, we can agree to disagree and see where

739
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: it takes us.

740
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: Okay, So then now, right now, Arthur Godfrey somewhere is

741
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: turning over and great.

742
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: We go back to Laura's house where she's picking out

743
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: her Katillion outfit, which I thought actually was funny when

744
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: she tried on that outfit that wasn't great AND's like

745
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 3: and Rory reveals that she's going to go to dinner

746
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: with Christopher, and she sort of says, we're not not talking,

747
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 3: and we kind of get that and then she's doing

748
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: hashtag relatable what every girl does.

749
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: Ask you, Amy, I have a question for here. Why

750
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: is your Why is your boyfriend always popping up in

751
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: these episodes now making random phone calls to Rory and Laurela.

752
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: Thank you for asking talking about Christopher because my first

753
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 3: boyfriend is Logan Christopher. My second boyfriend is Christopher. And

754
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: here's the thing. I've had some cringe with Ickstaffer, but

755
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: now I'm kinda back with him. I'm okay with him

756
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: in this episode.

757
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 4: Oh no, not me.

758
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna definitely agree to disagree because I sort

759
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 3: of was enjoying him, so okay, there was something. Oh yes,

760
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 3: Rory is doing what every girl does, which is send

761
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: a text and then completely stress over it your phone.

762
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: Make a friend text you to make sure your phone

763
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: is working. I mean the whole thing.

764
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 4: I was like, read check to see if it went through.

765
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you send me a text so that I.

766
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: Know that you got that last one? Yeah?

767
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: Oh I'm getting a text like it's so good.

768
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: That's still relatable.

769
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. It really made the episode.

770
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: Except now it's is it blue? Did it go?

771
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: Oh?

772
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, why.

773
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: Am I green? Why did I go green. Okay, So

774
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: then we go back to Lane's apartment. They're having their

775
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 3: bagel bites, and this is where they finally talk after like, well,

776
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: Brian's feel.

777
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 4: Did we talk about the part where Zach just is

778
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 4: like I think it was this scene or maybe it

779
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 4: was another scene where she's like, oh, I should be

780
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 4: drinking milk and he's like, I'm having cravings too, or

781
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: you know that, like weird.

782
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: Was I think the scene before that was.

783
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: I thought all these scenes were forced.

784
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: This one was the like, well, this finds freaking out.

785
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: She's like, well, I'm freaking out.

786
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: This is where they show them.

787
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: Can someone show me this? Yeah?

788
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: And then they say this baby totally sucks that.

789
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody showed me this bomb.

790
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: It's just not Gilmore girls, how do you say that

791
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: she doesn't want to be in the delivery room and.

792
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to cut the tube?

793
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: Bab you know this. These are the best moments of

794
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: a father's life. I went through all of those moments

795
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: and hours twenty one. How old you are, man, that's

796
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: your kid, and it's a beautiful moment, and I just

797
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: think that.

798
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 3: I think it's also ze they're freaking out right now.

799
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 3: Because they're twenty one, they've been married for a day.

800
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: It's character destruction.

801
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 5: He also their characters interesting.

802
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: That's an interesting Does.

803
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: He have a job, clearly not if he's in a band.

804
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: He's drinking beer and playing video games as an expectant father,

805
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: which I guess somebody has. How old is he supposed

806
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: to be in this anyway?

807
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 3: Isn't he about her age a little bit older?

808
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: How old is that?

809
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 3: Twenty two, twenty three? Gil is obviously older.

810
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: What's Gil got to do with this?

811
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying in the band, they're like in

812
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: the band, I think the three of them are all

813
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: about the same age. And then he's I'm not looping

814
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: him in. He's obviously older.

815
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 1: Sent the Let me look, you know, this episode keeps

816
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: going off the rails, and you know it gets back

817
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: on from time to time.

818
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: You've got I think that her shirt just went up.

819
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: No, this is not here that.

820
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: It did go up, But I just think it's I

821
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: don't know, right, I maybe I agree. I don't know

822
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: if they were intentionally trying to show a bump. I

823
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: just think during the hug and it was so passionate

824
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: that her shirt went up a little bit and revealed

825
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: her stomach.

826
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: But like my thought process was like they they would

827
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 4: have fixed that or redone the scene, right if they

828
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 4: didn't want her skin showing.

829
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at the video I just sat. It's a

830
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: little bit clearer there.

831
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 3: I just think she's a day pregnant. Okay, hold on watching.

832
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah that'stically.

833
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're saying like they made her wear something

834
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: like I don't know, they did stomach.

835
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: They liked that shot, like for I don't know, I

836
00:42:59,239 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: don't know.

837
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 4: I think maybe I don't know, Danielle, when did you

838
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 4: start showing with your first baby?

839
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: You don't show to like four months?

840
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: You know.

841
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's what I was gonna say, is like,

842
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 4: I think.

843
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: Our shirt just went up.

844
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: I think our shirt just went up. I don't think

845
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: we should make a thing about this too, because it's

846
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: not correct. That's what I love, trying to show a bump, right.

847
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: That's what I look like if my shirt goes.

848
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 2: I totally disagree. I think when they were shooting this,

849
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: they liked that. They liked that that her her shirt

850
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: went up and we saw her stomach because we never

851
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: have seen Lane's stomach before this.

852
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh God, For some ofthing that just took me

853
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: back to when she was like petting that guy's hair,

854
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: like episode two Good Old Days. We go now to

855
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: the Ketillion and Michelle is living his best life. He

856
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: is so stoked he got Loralai a ginormous cassage. She's

857
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 3: all mad she didn't get him a boot near. I mean,

858
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: it is so good. She sees the Caroline girl who's

859
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: sort of the mini Loreli wearing the converse, and they

860
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: wave and Charlotte is introducing her to the grandparents and

861
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: they're all so very polite, and Michelle gets sort of

862
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: dance and she's having a good time. I mean, that

863
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: was really cute. There are moments where she doesn't hate

864
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: the world she's from. She just gives it a try.

865
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: And she was so cute with Charlotte, who was talking

866
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 4: about the dance, and like, you know, maybe it made

867
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 4: me think of I kind of wish that we got

868
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 4: more scenes of her with April.

869
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: Interesting.

870
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: Interesting, you know, honestly, I felt that even this stuff

871
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: was forced as well. You know, Michelle debanding to go

872
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: to the Cotillion. I mean, it's quite quite odd, you know,

873
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: I liked it.

874
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that didn't bother me that, like something Michelle would do.

875
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: Because he's so like fancy pants and it is like

876
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 2: he's with his people. Finally, yeah, he's found his group

877
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: of peeps.

878
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: I liked all that. I liked it for some reason.

879
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 3: I was very drawn to the Charlotte character. I could

880
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: have had many episodes with her.

881
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: I was drawn to Lorelei's character in the Kilian group,

882
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: like I would have loved to hear them have more

883
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: of an interaction because for the most part, it was

884
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: just like Loreal's like, I got eyes on you, I

885
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: know who you are, I get you, I understand you.

886
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: But they didn't really have, you know, a.

887
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: Scene, and she was so cute. Okay, so then we

888
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 3: get back to that. We're back at the kitchen at

889
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: the Gilmours and Chris, Christopher, and Rory are splitting up

890
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 3: the food and feeding paul Anka some key lime pie.

891
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: I even thought the brownie line was funny. He's like,

892
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: you ordered a brownie, right, but like only one. I

893
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 3: thought that they had a cue banter. And then Christopher

894
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: and Lorlyi are sort of have their awkward moment and

895
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: she offers him coffee and then he really just spills

896
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 3: his gut, which I get what.

897
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: He's all in. It's his version of being all in.

898
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: Gosh, so I don't know what else he was supposed

899
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 3: to do. It's like it was a little over the top.

900
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I'm like, okay, respect.

901
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean an honest moment, right, Yeah, you know

902
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: he's we don't want him there in the first place.

903
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: But he stood there and face the music and said,

904
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, unpacked his feelings. And I thought he did

905
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: it in an exemplary way. He was honest, and he left.

906
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this and then I'll tell you

907
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 3: the thing that everybody asks about this scene. So you're Christopher, right,

908
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 3: And I know a lot of people are mad at

909
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 3: Christopher that he slept with Laura Lai right, Like, they're

910
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 3: so mad about it. They're like, why would he do that?

911
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 3: He should have been her friend, he should have been

912
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: there for her. But if we are to take it

913
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 3: at face value that he loves her and he's so

914
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 3: in love with her, she's the one for him and

915
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: he's finally realized that and she knocks at his door,

916
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: I would I don't think very many quote friends in

917
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 3: that position would say no.

918
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: I don't think Christopher's in the wrong with that. I

919
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: do think Laurel is the one that's wrong for going there,

920
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: and I like he's just he's taking her lead. You know,

921
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: she's the one that's leading this relationship. Really, she's the

922
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: one that's sparking a fire back into it and he's

923
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: following it.

924
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I don't know if Scott

925
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 3: and Tarr have a different take on it.

926
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: No, I agree because she kind of opened the door

927
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 4: for that to happen, Like I don't. He wasn't going

928
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 4: to stumble into her house like he knows that she's engaged.

929
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 4: But I get what you're saying, like if that, if

930
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: she came in his door, so he took it.

931
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 2: Even if you have episodes ago when she was super

932
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: drunk at the wedding, he slept on the chair, you know,

933
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 2: like he.

934
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: Is a right, that's a great point. He was a

935
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: good guy. He's not taking advantage of her, No, just

936
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 3: following her lead. But he's definitely we knew at the.

937
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: Wedding, stop parasite. He turns up when.

938
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. I know you, I get why you

939
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 3: don't like him, But at the same time, I'm not

940
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 3: sure he's so.

941
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: We're not supposed to like him.

942
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 4: Well, Scott, I understand what you mean when like he

943
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 4: just shows up, but this time it actually really was

944
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 4: Laurel opening the door and then Rory calling or sorry

945
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 4: Rory saying like, yeah, let's go to dinner. So like

946
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 4: he did get the invite.

947
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: He is a parasite, Like, yeah, for sure, he is

948
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: a parasite, but he's not to blame in my opinion.

949
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 5: You know, Laurel.

950
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: Did remind me if Laurel I set because all of

951
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: this spills onto Rory as well, right as well? Right,

952
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: so lare behavior. You know, it's crucial here to set

953
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: up these boundaries. And maybe she's just not very good.

954
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 3: It never does that, like not to dog lor Lie,

955
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: but the minute you date.

956
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: No, I'm not trying to do that, but I'm asking

957
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: a question.

958
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm the one doing the dogging. I'm dogging her,

959
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: right because if you the minute you date your kids teacher,

960
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 3: you don't have boundaries.

961
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: Right, There's there's no boundaries here. So like all of

962
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: this wackiness and all of this chaos and hurt and

963
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: pain is possible because you've got a seemingly responsible adult

964
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: who is a great mother, right, a great person, a

965
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: great mother. But you know there's no boundaries to these,

966
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: That's right. People just keep kind of walking and she's

967
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, she's so attractive and she's so wonderful. How

968
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: people can't resist, right, and this is what we're supposed

969
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: to believe, and we do that.

970
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 2: Forgot about Digger too, Like you know, she.

971
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: Has to dat your dad's business arch or he does it,

972
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: and she has no boundaries for Richard and Emily or Rory.

973
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: Now I have a question based on something Scott said,

974
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 3: we're not supposed to like Christopher. I disagree. I think

975
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: we're supposed to like him a little bit.

976
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: I think we're supposed to understand him. I don't think

977
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: we're supposed to like him. I think we're supposed to

978
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: understand him.

979
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: Because I don't think he's seven is a desperate attempt

980
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: to try to rehabilitate a character that's not rehabilitate to.

981
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 3: Bold, I don't. I think throughout the course.

982
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: Of the SERI it's such an awkward season.

983
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm saying you may be right, but

984
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, throughout the course of the season, I

985
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 3: don't think Christopher is the villain. I think we're supposed

986
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 3: to like him a little bit because I actually felt

987
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 3: for her before when they were kind of hooking up again,

988
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 3: and then then he finds out that Sherry's pregnant and

989
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 3: he goes back to Sherry. That was painful. And we

990
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 3: wouldn't have pain like that if we were supposed to

991
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: hate him, we'd be like, praise the Lord, get rid

992
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: of this loser. No, we're drawn. I can only speak

993
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 3: for myself. I'm a little bit drawn to Christopher. I

994
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 3: don't hate him. I do there's things about him I like,

995
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 3: and I'm intrigued. If he was the villain, I'd be like,

996
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 3: he sucks, Like I'm trying to think of a villain

997
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 3: Lex Luthor. I hate Lex Luthor, Like guy sucks.

998
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 4: I think having a show also, I get what you're saying, Amy,

999
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 4: I think the show also may have like changed him

1000
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 4: a little when like suddenly he got all this money

1001
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 4: and he wanted to be Rory's dad and so like

1002
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 4: it makes the audience want to care for him because

1003
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 4: now he can support his daughter. And I'm not saying

1004
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 4: that's how it should be in any situation, in every situation,

1005
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 4: but I think for Chris Christopher, like that was kind

1006
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 4: of of his redemption.

1007
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 3: Take care of Rory.

1008
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so these two Laurelin and Christopher are not speaking

1009
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: right now. Correct, they're not hang on, hang on right,

1010
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 1: I know, right, I got that, but they're not right now.

1011
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: They're not talking. They're not speaking.

1012
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 4: Well, she just didn't return his phone call.

1013
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: Okay, So Rory has an automobile, correct, Yeah, so he

1014
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: forces he makes a phone call and if I'll come

1015
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: pick you up and then i'll drop you off and

1016
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: I'll be around and I'll hang around. This is the

1017
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: parasitic nature of this character.

1018
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 4: That's her dad.

1019
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think a dad is ever gonna say, hey,

1020
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 3: twenty year old drive across.

1021
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: She told him not to get his hopes up after

1022
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: the first after they slept together, right. She tried to

1023
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 1: correct her mistake with him, like, please respect my wishes.

1024
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: This isn't going any farther her, you know. And here

1025
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: he is making it's fine to go have dinner with

1026
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: your daughter, but at least respect laurelized space.

1027
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: Right, that's a good point.

1028
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to.

1029
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to f up your relationship with your mom,

1030
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: and I don't want to f up your world because

1031
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: I came picked you up, and you know, I'm trying

1032
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,479
Speaker 1: to create a situation where I'm going to run into

1033
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: Laurel I because I love her so much, because I

1034
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: can't control myself because I have no boaler. It's like

1035
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: two people that then a boundary.

1036
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: I did think of that. I actually did think of that.

1037
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 4: He also didn't have to come in, like he could

1038
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 4: have dropped her.

1039
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: Off, he thought, and then just driven home.

1040
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: And actually thought the coming in was the boundary cross

1041
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 3: not the picking up, because think about how many divorced

1042
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: parents they picked their kids up. They wait outside, or

1043
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 3: they they knock on the door, and the other person

1044
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 3: invites them in whatever, into the kitchen. Unless Rory was like, no, dad,

1045
00:53:58,719 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 3: come in. We don't know.

1046
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think it was all fine until he

1047
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 4: came into the kitchen. Like everything else about them going

1048
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 4: to dinner together, I didn't mind.

1049
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: It's not acting like adults.

1050
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 3: Okay, so we've got two more super important things. The

1051
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 3: sexting begins. I know how I feel. How do you

1052
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 3: all feel?

1053
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to I don't know how to answer this.

1054
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: It's like it's not it's a different show. All of

1055
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: a sudden it's euphoria.

1056
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 4: I thought. The one thing that was kind of dumb

1057
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,959
Speaker 4: is that she responded, but she never saw it because

1058
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 4: she's been checking that phone like crazy.

1059
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: Well went into some weird secret envelope or something. I

1060
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 3: don't remember how the side gets.

1061
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 5: I don't remember.

1062
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it's because of the time. I don't remember

1063
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 4: how it worked. But I weirdly didn't hate it at all.

1064
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: I like Logan sexting, like, you know what, I go

1065
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: for it, Logan, you do you like? I think? I

1066
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 2: think it's it feels right coming from Logan.

1067
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 5: That's why, especially his reaction, what this feels like.

1068
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: This feels like a spin off show.

1069
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: I would have love that spin off.

1070
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: This feels like a spin off show starring where like Laurel,

1071
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: I and Luca, the supporting characters, Lane and Rory are

1072
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: the main characters. So we're kind of what you're saying.

1073
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: It just doesn't even feel like Gilmore Girls anymore.

1074
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 3: I I respectfully disagree. This episode felt pretty good to me,

1075
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: and I like, I think it's maybe because I crush

1076
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 3: on Logan so hard. When she calls him and was like,

1077
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: did you get my text? And he's like, yeah, I

1078
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 3: got your I was so in. I was like, oh,

1079
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 3: I got I got our text.

1080
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: He's also just giving Rory what every girl wants.

1081
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1082
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: No, that was a good text, you know, and you

1083
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: know he crushed it, freaking Logan crushed.

1084
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 3: I agree, and he wrote back something. He leveled it

1085
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 3: up like it was like poker, I'll see your whatever,

1086
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 3: and I raise you. And obviously I thought it was

1087
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 3: exactly cute when she's like, I can't do it while

1088
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 3: I'm on the phone with you. The whole thing was cute.

1089
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 4: I liked it, and the banter between them with the

1090
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 4: sex thing was I liked it. I liked it more

1091
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 4: than the conversation with Laine about it.

1092
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: And then we go upstairs for the either gut punch.

1093
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: Or gut punch.

1094
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 3: For me, it was a sorry, sorry y'all. So, Scott,

1095
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 3: how do you feel that Laura Lai called Christopher and

1096
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 3: don't let me forget to say the thing that everyone

1097
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 3: comments on, don't let me forget.

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00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: It's just at this point it's just a hack show.

1099
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: It's not it's not it's just melodrama, you know, It's

1100
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: it's so off the rails it's hard to follow it.

1101
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: Now you know, you know, I'm I'm entertained by some

1102
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 1: of the scenes. Some of it feels like the old show,

1103
00:56:58,800 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: but most of it doesn't.

1104
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 3: You know.

1105
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: What's annoying is that every episode in season seven so far,

1106
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 2: and granted I know there's only three, but has ended

1107
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: with Lorelei seeking Christopher. Yeah, you know, it's like, haven'm

1108
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: be together on an even episode two?

1109
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: Didn episode two end?

1110
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: You know what I think it's. I think it's the

1111
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: unwillingness of the How do I say this without sounding

1112
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: like a complete tool, sounding like a well, it wasn't

1113
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: it hasn't been a problem so far from now.

1114
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: I want to hear.

1115
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: Well, I guess you know, when you destroy a character,

1116
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: it's like who cares what anybody does?

1117
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: Now?

1118
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Luke and Laurel I were such a big

1119
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: part of that show, and now Luke's being treated like,

1120
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, just just this sort of like supporting character,

1121
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: and now it doesn't really matter, and now we can

1122
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: explore this Christopher thing. And I just think that that's

1123
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: where the mistake was made, right.

1124
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, they kind of put him on like the back burner,

1125
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 4: Like suddenly Christopher is getting more scenes than Luke.

1126
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he and he didn't earn him. Yeah, and

1127
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: then there's there's there's no justification for it, there's no

1128
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: logic to it, there's no but I mean, it is

1129
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: the nature of life. Sometimes things happen out of the

1130
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: blue and they're you know, they're shocking, and it's just

1131
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: maybe they could have handled it, they've done it a

1132
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: little in a little more artful way, I guess. I

1133
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: don't know. And also it just feels so ham handed

1134
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: and a character just sort of discarded, you know, I think.

1135
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: And that's why I think it was so disappointing for

1136
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: the fans, because nobody's really acting like themselves anymore. It's

1137
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: hard to recognize the show. So anyway, there you go.

1138
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 3: So okay, I don't let that sink in. I I

1139
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 3: don't disagree or agree. I'm sort of like, there definitely

1140
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 3: are things about season seven where you're like, what's going on?

1141
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: But then there's also things where are like, yeah, gilmore girls.

1142
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: So I'm sort of in the middle.

1143
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if there is if you if you

1144
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: have a successful relationship and a show the deep the

1145
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 1: taps so deeply in to the fantasy life of a dedicated,

1146
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,479
Speaker 1: religiously dedicated fan base. I don't know how you mess

1147
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: with that. I thought that that's a mistake.

1148
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that. They know how to not

1149
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 3: mess with it.

1150
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: If you look at look, if you look at Luke

1151
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: Laurelai as public service. Okay, let's just look at it

1152
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: like this has been offered to the world. This makes

1153
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: people feel good, This heals people. And I only sound

1154
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: too nutty about it. No, no, but fans worship this relationship.

1155
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: This is this is relationship goals. You know, to find

1156
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: a guy like Luke to be a woman like laurel

1157
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: I to be together in a new relationship that's that

1158
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: full and that passionate and that fraught with yes, anxiety

1159
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: that it's going to break up somehow. I mean, it's

1160
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: really on tender hooks but a lot of the time.

1161
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: But that's kind of the beauty of it. That's the

1162
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: magic of it. The sparks are flying all of the time,

1163
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: and you idealize something so much for six seasons. That's

1164
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: a big chunk of people's lives.

1165
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 3: No, that's true, that's true.

1166
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: Cross it away, huge misstep. Sorry, that's my two cents.

1167
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shut up now.

1168
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: No, no, never shut up. There is a moment in

1169
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 3: the kitchen that many people are conflicted about, which I

1170
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 3: did listen to seven times. So there are many people

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01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 3: that think. Christopher says Lauren that he calls her Lauren,

1172
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 3: and if we replay the scene, you'll see it. He

1173
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:10,479
Speaker 3: actually upon really listening, he's saying lore And did anybody notice?

1174
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: Oh?

1175
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: No, I didn't. But should we should we?

1176
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? Can't it? Well it? Let us watch it.

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01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: I can. I can pull it up and then I'll

1178
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: put this sound on my computer.

1179
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 3: Okay, good if you really listen in it's lore and

1180
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 3: it was so right Lauren.

1181
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 4: You may not see that.

1182
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: Let now, but I do.

1183
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 3: Know Lauren, one thinks, he says Lauren.

1184
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 4: He definitely says Lauren.

1185
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 3: No, he says, but it was so right. Do it again.

1186
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 4: You do it again.

1187
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: It was so right, Lauren.

1188
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 3: You may not see that right now, but or and

1189
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: you may not see that right now, I can see it.

1190
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: The English subtitles say too.

1191
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 3: So what do you guys give it?

1192
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: I give it eight out of ten. Peb and Jay Sandwiches, I.

1193
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: Give it six point eight.

1194
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 3: Pop Tarts, I'm giving it nine. I owe you from

1195
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 3: Lorli stickies. M.

1196
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: That's cute.

1197
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 2: That's cute.

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01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I got a couple of chuckles out

1199
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: of it. I appreciate that. So, but I do not

1200
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: like witnessing characters being taken behind the shed and shot

1201
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: in the back of the head, as it were. And

1202
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: that's what we're witnessing here with two of the most iconic,

1203
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 1: delightful characters. And so I'm going to give it half

1204
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: a point. Oh my god, not even no, not a

1205
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: full point. No, no way, I can't. I can't support

1206
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: this level of destruction.

1207
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 3: It's just did you feel this way when you were

1208
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 3: doing it?

1209
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: You weren't even on set for this episode, right, I

1210
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: think I was just happy that I wasn't there, you know,

1211
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: to be around this.

1212
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 4: Were the Were the vibes on set different in this season?

1213
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, they were, they were. It was. Look, it's

1214
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: always good to have a job that long. Yeah, it's

1215
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: just so rare, and so I think everybody I was

1216
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: pleased that I had a job. But I I don't know.

1217
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it just what I'm witnessing here. Maybe maybe it

1218
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,439
Speaker 1: was a good idea once Amy and Dan left the show,

1219
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: that everybody sort of packed up and left with him.

1220
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: You know, maybe the legacy of the show would have

1221
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: been a little more respected, you know, I think.

1222
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 4: It definitely is well respected.

1223
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: No, no, I didn't say that it wasn't. I said

1224
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: more respected versus I think once. I think once the

1225
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: original creators exit, then it should be done. It's something

1226
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: like this, it cannot be replicated. And I remember thinking

1227
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: during this episode that I almost regretted being involved in

1228
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: the seventh season. But it's, you know, it's difficult to

1229
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: walk away. Actually it's you can't walk away from the job.

1230
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, this show is just being

1231
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: destroyed before our eyes, and it's something that means the

1232
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: world to so many people. And now I understand what

1233
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: they say. They can't they just skip season seven, they

1234
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: don't watch it when they rewatch it, you know what

1235
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean.

1236
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying.

1237
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm really trying to be positive about this. Don't get

1238
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: me wrong. I'm really trying. And there was some good

1239
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: things in this and there's some good writing, and it

1240
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: just shows how hard it is to replicate something so

1241
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: unique coming from you know what. You have to admit

1242
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: with Amy and Dan are two geniuses, right are at

1243
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: the top of the business, the top of their craft.

1244
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 3: And this does happen to shows a showrunner leaves and

1245
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 3: the show the bucket that does happen. You're not This

1246
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 3: isn't the only thing. I won't go as far as

1247
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 3: to say that's happening.

1248
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: And great writers all on this show season seven, in

1249
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: their own right, could have gone on to write incredibly original, fantastic,

1250
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: award winning shows, super talented people. But to ask somebody

1251
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: to like, hey, you want to replace Brando on Broadway

1252
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: and Streetcar named Desire and try to do what he did,

1253
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: go ahead, have fun, not gonna happen. You're just gonna

1254
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: you just go.

1255
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. It's it's different because like a good example I

1256
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 4: have is like I've I mean, we love you, buddy,

1257
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 4: Like greas Anatomy just renewed for season twenty one and

1258
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 4: Shonda Rhyme's left I don't even know how many seasons ago,

1259
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 4: and like, as someone who's watched the whole time, I

1260
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 4: definitely notice a shift, but then it would always come back.

1261
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 4: And it's funny because I still love the show and Amy,

1262
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 4: I know you watch too, But there's something so different

1263
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 4: about Gilmore where it makes me wonder if they got

1264
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 4: a season eight maybe like they needed to work out

1265
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 4: the kinks like without Amy and Dan in season seven?

1266
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? And maybe there's.

1267
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: No there's no way to do that. How you're going

1268
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: to work out the kinks? What do you mean?

1269
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1270
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: I don't know without without those two brains.

1271
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 3: Well, what Tur's point was is there are shows that

1272
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 3: replace a show runner like Shonda Rhimes and you don't

1273
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:40,959
Speaker 3: miss a beat.

1274
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but where have you ever seen a show like

1275
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:45,959
Speaker 1: this like Gilmore Walking Dead?

1276
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 3: Did it?

1277
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: That? Is this unique?

1278
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 3: Well?

1279
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: That's not a dialogue heavy show, is it.

1280
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I'm just saying Walking Dead

1281
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 3: lost their show runner, and I thought the show was

1282
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 3: as good Aaron Sorkin left West Wing and I thought.

1283
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: Really show? Really they bring in Nagan destroys the show.

1284
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You felt that was a

1285
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: good idea?

1286
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all part of the comic book. We don't

1287
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 3: need a debate Walking Dead because Nigan's in the comic books.

1288
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is Aaron Sorkin left West Wing

1289
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: and it did continue to be an amazing show. I'm

1290
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 3: not saying. Look, I don't hate season seven, but I

1291
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 3: do think Tara's point is taken that Gray's Anatomy lost

1292
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 3: their amy Sherman Palladino, who is Shonda Rhymes, and the

1293
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 3: show is still amazing. So maybe, look, I'm not saying anything,

1294
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 3: but maybe there was a showrunner that could have taken over.

1295
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 3: I think the problem was it all happened unexpectedly, where

1296
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 3: Shonda Rhimes maybe worked with someone for multiple years to

1297
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 3: coach them up. I don't know, I'm talking out of school.

1298
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm just saying Walking Dead maybe a comic book, and

1299
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: they stayed true to it with Nigan, but now Gilmore

1300
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: Girls season seven is turned into a comic book.

1301
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 3: See, I disagree with that.

1302
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: I did not care caricatures of once great characters. I

1303
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: don't recognize him and it's hard to watch.

1304
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, see, I loved this. I really really enjoyed this episode.

1305
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think there's a lot of people

1306
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 3: who agree with you. I think there's a majority of

1307
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 3: people that we're hearing from that do not like season

1308
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 3: seven that until episode nineteen, they all turn around on

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Speaker 3: episode nineteen, which we're not there yet. I enjoyed this

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Speaker 3: episode quite quite a lot.

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Speaker 1: Personally. It's hard to watch. You know, you put in

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Speaker 1: six years of hard work into something and everything you

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Speaker 1: have inside you to create a character, right, and then

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Speaker 1: just to see it all sort of pissed on?

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Speaker 3: And what do you blame? Hard It's hard to blame

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Speaker 3: how what do you blame that on the showrunners leaving?

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Speaker 3: Or do you blame the network because they didn't pay

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Speaker 3: them what they want? I don't give them the two seasons.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that there's anybody to blame. It's just something.

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Speaker 1: It's just something that happens, you know, it's just something

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Speaker 1: that it's just something that happened, and you sort of, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can't believe it's happening, but it's, but it is.

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Speaker 1: And you're not there as much, and you know, you're

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Speaker 1: at the able reads and you read these stories and

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Speaker 1: storylines and you're just sort of like, hmm, yeah, wow, okay,

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Speaker 1: but again your powerless and you are powerless to do

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Speaker 1: anything about it, right, just sort of show up and

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Speaker 1: do your job, you know, well you can.

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Speaker 3: I did not dislike this episode, But we'll see what

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Speaker 3: happens next week. I don't know, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: if maybe at episode nineteen, which is you know, feels

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Speaker 3: a long way from now, maybe you'll have a turn around.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, well let's now that we're going to leave

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Speaker 1: it on a high note. What an enjoyable listener next week.

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Speaker 3: It's wonderful, It's marvelous. It kept making me think of

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Speaker 3: the marvelous missus Maisel.

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Speaker 1: Really, we're not that lucky. We're not that lucky. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Thank you everybody, truly the best fans on the planet,

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Speaker 1: and we will we will see you next time for

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Speaker 1: another rollicking, hilarious, dramatic episode of Gilmore Girl Season seven,

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Speaker 1: episode four, What what entitled?

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Speaker 3: Amy give us Wonderfuls?

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Speaker 1: There you go? All right, everybody, stay safe, much love,

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Speaker 1: everybody talk forget. Follow us on Instagram at I Am

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Speaker 1: all In podcast and email us at Gilmore at iHeart

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Speaker 1: radio dot com.