WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Strategizing Free Agency 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:07.240 This He's talking Cowboys Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:17.800 World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:23.200 Bryan brought us, Rob Phillips, and Taylor Starn. Welcome everybody 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:28.160 into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. It is Talking Tuesday. Always 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:30.640 great to be joined by these guys because we still 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.320 have lots to talk about. Of course, we just got 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:37.440 through our first Sunday Songs football, so we're deep into it. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.320 But we're only twenty nine days away from free agency starting. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.840 You guys are about to go to the combine. There's 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.600 a lot happening around here. It's all happening. It's not 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.000 going to be quiet for long, is it. Yeah? And Indy, 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.480 you know they had a lot happened last week. Pretty strange, 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:53.920 have you, guys. I guess we've seen that before where 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:55.800 coaches kind of say they're going to be somewhere and 0:00:55.840 --> 0:01:00.320 then they back out. That was weird. It's happened. Bill 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.840 Parcels did it the year before he took this job, 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:05.760 had had a lined up job in Tampa Bay. Didn't 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:10.160 didn't happen, Yeah, but it had had some particular interest 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:11.760 here with you Matt eberflew so and what was going 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:13.800 to happen with him? He's still an India though. Would 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.039 you like that where you accept a job and you 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.520 think you're going to go work for Mickey Spagnola. You 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:22.080 love Mickey, I'm all set, y'all set, and then Mickey's like, hey, 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:26.200 I'm leaving and you're gonna get random person here. But 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.960 you still get a chance. That probably would celebrate, But 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.520 I'm not working for Mickey. Oh, you'd still get to 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.520 run your own defense. Pup my fist. But maybe it's 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.600 somebody who runs a contraction contract. Great point. How long 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.280 that last? I mean Belichick did it when at the Jets. Yeah, 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:46.559 he was gonna be Bill's successor, and then he went 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.920 to New England. Yeah, the two Bills, and he'd still 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:50.520 need to watch that. It's pretty good. You need to 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.960 watch it. I think the thing that's really interesting about 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.560 you can talk about what Parcels did. If you look 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.040 back on that show. Belichick should have had the Giant's job. Yeah, 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.080 the fact that Bill told him after he already had 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.000 taken the Cleveland job that well, I'm gonna go to 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.840 broadcasting here for a year and work on my health. 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.760 That doesn't that doesn't bode very well. I mean, if 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.400 you think you'd be working close with some of your 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.520 saying hey, listen, I'm thinking about taking this year off, 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.440 going to name you the guy he interested in this thing. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.400 You know he didn't do that. Belichick should have been 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.240 the New York giants next head coach, not Ray Hanley. 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.079 That's that's very selfish. I believe on Bill's part. That 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.720 was the biggest mistake. The Giants made sure it was 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.000 Hanley about Hanley, and then Hanley had one decision to 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.000 make who was a quarterback and he chose the wrong way. Yeah, 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.160 but it goes It just shows you. It just shows 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.560 you though with with Parcels as good as he can be. 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.919 And you watch that that, I know what, we don't 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.720 want totally revisit it, but you watch that. You could 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.600 see Belichick kind of looking at him Lang. Really, you know, 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.120 we're sitting here and you you know you they're bringing 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.520 this up, and you're you know, you don't I mean that, Yeah, 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.760 there's a lot, there's still a lot there between those two. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.320 I mean they act like there, but I don't believe 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.160 it's his smoothed over as everybody thinks you know that 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.799 sort of happened here when he left because he didn't 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.480 make his decision. Well you said it would, yeah, And 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:17.120 Mike Zimmer was here and he needed a job because 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.399 his contract was up. He didn't know if if Parcels 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.880 would stay, if a new coach would keep him, and 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.480 he went to Atlanta. Well, I think, going back to 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.160 the same thing which you're talking about, it if they 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.959 need a job, Mattie reflews from I assume was wanting 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:34.160 the DC job here. Of course, Marion Ellie is still here, 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.960 and I don't know if there were discussions about, hey, 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.120 it's going to be one more year or two more 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.560 years or what it isn't it. I don't think anybody could. 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.480 I don't think anybody, you know, the Joneses would know. 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.160 Marinelli would know, but I don't think your Garrett would know. 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.240 I don't think you can really you know that they 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.640 really could put a timetable on that. I don't think 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.880 that you know that. We go back to last year 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:58.400 and the fact that he had his chance to sign 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.040 an extension and he didn't. I think that's really where 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.520 the damage was done. If you want to say damage, 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.440 I think matt wants to run his own defense. I 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.880 felt like though that you know, they said, hey, we're 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.040 you know, we're not going to let you, you know, 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.680 interview for the San Francisco job. And once that happened, 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.119 then Matt's decision for him was pretty easy. You know, Okay, 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.200 well then I'll just move on. I'll take my chances. 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.839 I'll bet on myself. Did somebody want to hire me 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:26.760 away from this place? Absolutely? Yeah. I think they viewed 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.520 him as a young star in the league coaching wise, 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.800 But you know, I think he took an opportunity that 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.520 was good for him. The Cults are standing by him 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.400 and keeping his new role as DC, and I think 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.279 they the Cowboys brought in a guy Chris Richard that 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:45.880 they're pretty excited about success. That's Sattle, absolutely, you know, 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.279 with you know, he's had some players in Seattle when 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:50.840 you think about the Legion of Boom and all that. 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.320 But I think to Brian's point, he's been saying this 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.160 for a while, he could bring in some fresh ideas 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.279 for the secondary. Absolutely. Would you like would you like 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.480 being Matt Patricia in this scenario, Like, hey, you can go, 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.520 you can go be a head coach, but we're gonna 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.279 keep this guy. He's our favorite. Josh McDaniels. You can't 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:09.480 get out of our grasp. Well, obviously kidding here did 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.839 not happen, but I would I would like to know 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:17.040 how much jurisdiction Patricia had with that defense with Belichick there. 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.000 I mean, did he really run it himself or was 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.680 he the caretaker? And those things? You just don't know. 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.560 It looks like he is calling the plays. But they 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.679 both got headsets on, right. Yeah. I always wondered about 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.000 that because the same thing happened with Wade Phillips here, 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:38.560 No in Brian Stewart with New England. Oh, the defensive 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:42.440 line coach romanel Cornell, Yeah, you know, and then he 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.440 got his job to be DC and it didn't work 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.359 out all that well or head coach? Was it? He 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.600 moved on to the head coach at Cleveland, that's right, 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.920 and it didn't work out so well. Has it worked 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.400 out well for anyone? So not anybody in clue, just 0:05:55.480 --> 0:06:00.800 never know how much the guy has, Like like, well, 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.760 look what Patricia did in Detroit, right, he hired Paul 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:07.159 Pasqualoni as a defensive coordinator. Well, he's gonna be the 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.920 defensive coordinator in name only. Patricia's gonna do that, and 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.159 I think head coaches, the reason you got the job 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.680 was because you were a good defensive coordinator. So I 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.200 think initially you ought to just keep doing what you're 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:23.320 good at. Mike Zimmer at Minnesota, right, Mike still calls 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.760 the defenses of Minnesota. I mean, I thought that was Wade, Wade, Wilson, 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:30.480 Wade Phillips downfall here, should have kept being the defensive coordinator. 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:34.640 He mentioned the name Brian's and he hired Brian Stewartricia 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.120 hired him. Yeah, right, Brian Stewart started out as a 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.640 defensive coordinator. Then Wade kind of said, Okay, I'm gonna 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.520 do this again. I'm gonna step in. Sorry, Brian. That 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.680 goes back to the whole walk around coach thing. Is 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.000 it better to not have all those responsibilities that you're 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:52.000 trying to juggle. Jason Garrett handed over play calling duties 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:53.839 to Scott Nahan after a while because it was just, 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.040 you know, let's focus on the whole football team. It's 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.120 a it's a tough balancing at Doug Peterson's doing it 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.680 pretty well in Philly. Yeah, he'll see how long he 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:03.760 does it. Yeah, he's done it for two years. He 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.400 just lost his OC though. Yeah, Frank rights pretty good 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:10.640 because now who would have thought this? Eberflus now united 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.240 with the OC from the Eagles. They know each other 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.200 well obviously watching so much tape on each other's That 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.320 could be an advantage. That could be a really good 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.760 advantage for him, the fact that he's got somebody that 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:25.320 has some familiarity with him through you know, respect. You know, 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.280 I believe that. You know, every time I've ever talked 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:31.000 to anyboy the Eagles, they respect the Cowboys coaches. They 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:34.320 I've never heard anybody like guy's a clown or anything 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.760 like that. I've never heard that. But now I think 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.320 that it bodes well for Matt if he could go 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.760 to a place where somebody has an idea of his work, 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.920 that always helps absolutely and Indy you guys will probably 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.040 see him there, So we look forward to that. Yeah, 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.680 and of course we know that Stephen and Jerry will 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.920 definitely talk when they're But what we're gonna say, no, 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:54.520 I was going to say it kind of now an 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:58.720 interesting dynamic and free agency with Matt Eberflus being in Indianapolis. 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.360 Do you lose Anthony Hitchens? That's a great point. I 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.120 mean that that's where now you've got a defensive coordinator 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:09.760 going away and was somebody that you like. It's it's solid, 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:13.360 they've got space. Yeah, from what I've read. Yeah, so 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.680 and he loves Hitchens. I mean, you know, yeah, that's 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:17.840 this guy. Guys, he's he's brought up through the system 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.080 to be there playing a lot and doing it. You'd 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.720 like to be making a lot of money, that would 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:27.360 be yeah, playing a lot, so okay, but passion of 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.840 the game. Well, and then Anthony's Anthony's a Midwestern guy, 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:33.360 I mean, school to Iowa there, so he understands. And 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:37.960 you know, Matt, who better than to to convey your 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.800 message in the locker room than somebody you know and 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.360 trust that he could walk up, he could come into 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.480 the room and say or to Matt and say, hey, listen, man, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:48.880 these guys aren't getting it. You need to think about this. 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:50.600 And I can't always want to keep him too, There's 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.120 no doubt about it. But logic states like Brian said, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.640 I mean that there's competition for you there. How many 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.480 times have you guys seen that where a coach goes 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.640 to a new team and then they kind of pick 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.719 up some Oh Belichick did it he took If you 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.280 go watch the two Bills, he took all those linebacker 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.440 Pepper Johnson and ourselves did ye got here? But he 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.320 got here right? Yeah? Oh? And I mean look at 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.960 Marion Elli. He's brought guys that he knew about. Yeah, 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:17.480 on other teams, so exactly. Chicago and Tampa both pretty common. Well. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:21.640 Last week, congratulations to John Stephen Jones, who signed with Arkansas. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.079 While there, of course, his whole family showed up for 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.200 the event. Stephen Jones talked and Robbie wrote an article, 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.080 and I thought we could kind of spend a few 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.160 first minutes on the next three months being critical in 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.080 the Cowboys building a team to catch the goals. Because 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:38.880 I don't know where did Jerry say that pillow screaming quote. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.640 I didn't I read it, never saw it or heard 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.200 it anywhere. Did you see that? What was the quote? 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.559 It was like you hear that mumbling, it's me screaming 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.200 and my pillow mad about the Eagles winning a Super Bowl. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.360 I'm paraphrasing this. Somebody probably caught up with him during 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:57.839 Super Bowl week. I didn't see Minneapolis, but Stampin was 0:09:57.880 --> 0:09:59.800 asked go ahead, no, I was gonna say he said 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.840 it after the game. Oh he did, but didn't he 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.320 or did he saying about Philadelphia just being it was 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.240 reaction to him winning. Let's see where it says. I'm 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:12.240 sorry they say pro football talk because normally normally don't 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.400 Mickey's favor, No pro football talks. Okay, it's pro football 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:19.800 focus focus. Uh. Normally they don't striten for Christmas. Normally 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:23.720 they don't stay for the game. They leave like on 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.120 Saturday to come back. They stayed for the game, Yeah, 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:29.559 normally they haven't They all right? When it's the Cowboy, 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.160 I don't think. I don't think anybody in the organization 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.040 loves that Philly's the champion right now. I think it's 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.520 competition in your division. They've got to find a way 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:41.160 to catch those guys. I Clarence Hill. Clarence Hill caught 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.080 up with him. He beat making to the scoop. He said, 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.079 the muffled voice you've been hearing is me screaming in 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.800 my pillow over not being here and seeing Philadelphia. So 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.360 that must have been prior to then. Yeah, that's a 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.560 hell of a quote right there, And I'm that sums up. 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.680 I mean, that's a division rival. Now that you look 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:01.000 at him and say, they're getting the quarterback back healthy, 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.000 there got a lot of their pieces coming back. It's 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.320 going to be a challenge. But Stephen Jones did say ta, 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.040 and I'm quoting him here, he said, well, McLay, our 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:09.960 coaching staff, Jerry and I really got to roll up 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.040 our sleeves and improve our football team. And if we 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.760 do that, we think we've got a great opportunity to 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.040 compete for a super Bowl championship. End quote. So he 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:19.880 did speak to those next three months, and when he 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.680 was talking about was what we've got coming up, combine 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.559 free agency draft, how are they gonna address some of 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.120 the spots they need to fix. And I don't think 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.559 they look at it and say we're really far away. 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.280 I think they had some key injuries that they had 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:37.400 to do a better job of covering four and that 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.600 can be coaching that can add, that can be personnel 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.360 adding better depth at certain spots. But I don't think 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.000 they look at this and say we're miles beyond Philly. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.920 That quote sounds like it was said at a social event, 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:57.000 knowing Jerry Jerry's quote. Yeah, Yeah, I don't know, Jed. 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:01.839 Social events is always good, right, Yeah, I like it regardless. No, 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.280 I mean that's pretty honest, right, yeah, But I'm sure 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:08.560 he was trying to be funny. You know, we'll focus 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.160 on Stevens quote because I think that's the important one. 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.320 That's the one that says, Okay, what are you going 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:16.000 to do to make your football team better? This is 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.000 the opportunity that you have, whether it's you know, like 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.480 he's talking about the draft, free agency. They made a 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.720 bold decision last year and really to let go of 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:28.679 all those defensive backs. Absolutely feels like it worked out 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:32.200 pretty well. Now how do you how do you replicate 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.520 what you did there? You did it through the draft, 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.680 but you know, now you have to figure out ways. Okay, 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:41.840 let's figure out what we need to do free agency again? 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.520 Is it the bottom fishing type of attack. If you're 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.199 going to do the bottom fishing attack, you got to 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.360 be better at it. And they haven't been better at 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.520 the last couple of years. You know, if you're going 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.840 to now, they've also they missed on it. You know, 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.640 I think that Cedric Thornton was a it was a 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.960 big money free agent guy for them. It were their philosophy. Yeah, 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.960 and that didn't work out very well. So you know, 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:07.280 the pro personnel guys have got to figure out Okay, 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.440 if we're gonna you gotta keep pitching. You can't, you 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.760 know you can't. You guys you got did not go 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:17.280 absolutely take and fish yet, but when you bought bottom fish. 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.560 But but there's some teams. But if you look at 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:23.880 what Philadelphia with jeff with all Sean Jeffrey one year 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.640 deal initially, you know they they paid for them, No 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.080 one year deal, it was a one year deal. Long 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.360 was a short deal. Yeah. I'm just saying, they gave 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:39.520 money to Cedric Thornton. Yeah, and and in long term money. 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:43.319 And I think that's where if you're the Cowboys, Okay, 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.480 what direction do you go? If I'm Will McClay, I'm 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:51.240 now leaning on my my pro personnel guys and saying, 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:54.559 all right, listen here, guys, let's talk about this. Let's 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:58.640 figure out where we are when in regard to these players, 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.320 you know, where do they fit? Are we going to 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.040 a year from now being saying, Okay, why do we 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.319 do this? I think this is an important time at 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.600 the college Scouts. I think did a nice job last 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.600 year with their guys. I think with the guys they 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.320 went out and got, you know, need to have another 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.280 one like that, need to add more pieces there. So 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.080 but the pro guys, you know, again, roll up your 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:24.200 sleeves and figure this thing out. Because if you're going 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:29.120 to bottom fish or playing this tip, dip your toe 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.440 in the pool, you better find some guys that can 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.400 match with what Philly's doing. If it has to be 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:38.040 with trades, you know, they've they've they've had some successful, 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.960 you know, successful trades. I think David Irving is a 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:46.440 successful trade if people look at his ability. Now maybe 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:50.320 not Bryce Butler so much. That wasn't a successful trade 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.080 if you look at you know, look at the end 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.360 result of that they trade for Irving her now to 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.800 sign him off the practice, I thought he was a trade. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:00.680 They signed him off Ken you know, but either way, yeah, 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.480 was it a practice squad one? Yeah, so U Kansas City. 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.480 But to your point, you know, McLay and and the 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:10.040 pro Personal Department have found guys through free agency in 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.160 some of that bottom fishing stuff before. I think it's 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.320 these last couple of years, there have been some some 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.120 things that just didn't work out, and h and like 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.200 we said, Philly's had some more success that way. I 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.240 there are certain spots on this team though people want 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.440 them to spend money, and I don't think the secondary, 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.000 for example, is one where you go out and you 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:28.800 spend try to spend a bunch of money. You have 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.760 young players that you want to grow. So if you're 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.000 gonna spend money, you got to figure out spots where 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:37.040 you got to replace guys or we absolutely need an 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.080 upgrade there. I don't think the secondary is one of them. 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.000 So where are you going to spend your money? You're 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.280 gonna go bottom fish or if you're gonna go look 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.040 for a free agent, what they're gonna do first is 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:49.680 they're gonna look to resign DeMarcus Lawrence or franchise in 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.560 one of the two. They're gonna resign Zach Martin. I 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.040 think everybody's pretty confident that will eventually get done. That 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.800 should open up some space. They're gonna take care of 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.040 their own first, they always do, and then then it's 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.160 probably that next wave of free agency. I don't see 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.280 it changing from what it's been. I really don't. So 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.440 if you were going to go into free agency, know 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.080 what position are you looking at? That's a great question 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.120 to hold until after we come back from break, and 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.600 before we go to break, we do want to send 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:21.480 our condolences to the Garrett family on the passing of 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:25.640 Jim Garrett. All our thoughts and prayers with them. You know, 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.080 great long time scout here, obviously his most famous work 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.840 being Treykman's Scouting Report and Brian, you guys got a 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.080 chance to work with him, So just want to send 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.800 our condolences to his family right now going through a 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:41.640 difficult time. Yeah, Jim, Jim's outstanding. You know, I enjoyed 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.360 working with him the six years I was here, very 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:48.080 passionate about what he brought every every time. 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