1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: This He's talking Cowboys Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, 3 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Bryan brought us, Rob Phillips, and Taylor Starn. Welcome everybody 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. It is Talking Tuesday. Always 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: great to be joined by these guys because we still 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: have lots to talk about. Of course, we just got 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: through our first Sunday Songs football, so we're deep into it. 8 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: But we're only twenty nine days away from free agency starting. 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: You guys are about to go to the combine. There's 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: a lot happening around here. It's all happening. It's not 11 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: going to be quiet for long, is it. Yeah? And Indy, 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: you know they had a lot happened last week. Pretty strange, 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: have you, guys. I guess we've seen that before where 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: coaches kind of say they're going to be somewhere and 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: then they back out. That was weird. It's happened. Bill 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: Parcels did it the year before he took this job, 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: had had a lined up job in Tampa Bay. Didn't 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: didn't happen, Yeah, but it had had some particular interest 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: here with you Matt eberflew so and what was going 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: to happen with him? He's still an India though. Would 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: you like that where you accept a job and you 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: think you're going to go work for Mickey Spagnola. You 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: love Mickey, I'm all set, y'all set, and then Mickey's like, hey, 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm leaving and you're gonna get random person here. But 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: you still get a chance. That probably would celebrate, But 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm not working for Mickey. Oh, you'd still get to 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: run your own defense. Pup my fist. But maybe it's 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: somebody who runs a contraction contract. Great point. How long 29 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: that last? I mean Belichick did it when at the Jets. Yeah, 30 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 1: he was gonna be Bill's successor, and then he went 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: to New England. Yeah, the two Bills, and he'd still 32 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: need to watch that. It's pretty good. You need to 33 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: watch it. I think the thing that's really interesting about 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: you can talk about what Parcels did. If you look 35 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: back on that show. Belichick should have had the Giant's job. Yeah, 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: the fact that Bill told him after he already had 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: taken the Cleveland job that well, I'm gonna go to 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: broadcasting here for a year and work on my health. 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: That doesn't that doesn't bode very well. I mean, if 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: you think you'd be working close with some of your 41 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: saying hey, listen, I'm thinking about taking this year off, 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: going to name you the guy he interested in this thing. 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: You know he didn't do that. Belichick should have been 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: the New York giants next head coach, not Ray Hanley. 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: That's that's very selfish. I believe on Bill's part. That 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: was the biggest mistake. The Giants made sure it was 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: Hanley about Hanley, and then Hanley had one decision to 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: make who was a quarterback and he chose the wrong way. Yeah, 49 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: but it goes It just shows you. It just shows 50 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: you though with with Parcels as good as he can be. 51 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: And you watch that that, I know what, we don't 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: want totally revisit it, but you watch that. You could 53 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: see Belichick kind of looking at him Lang. Really, you know, 54 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: we're sitting here and you you know you they're bringing 55 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: this up, and you're you know, you don't I mean that, Yeah, 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot, there's still a lot there between those two. 57 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean they act like there, but I don't believe 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: it's his smoothed over as everybody thinks you know that 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: sort of happened here when he left because he didn't 60 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: make his decision. Well you said it would, yeah, And 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer was here and he needed a job because 62 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 1: his contract was up. He didn't know if if Parcels 63 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: would stay, if a new coach would keep him, and 64 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: he went to Atlanta. Well, I think, going back to 65 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: the same thing which you're talking about, it if they 66 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: need a job, Mattie reflews from I assume was wanting 67 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: the DC job here. Of course, Marion Ellie is still here, 68 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: and I don't know if there were discussions about, hey, 69 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: it's going to be one more year or two more 70 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: years or what it isn't it. I don't think anybody could. 71 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody, you know, the Joneses would know. 72 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: Marinelli would know, but I don't think your Garrett would know. 73 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: I don't think you can really you know that they 74 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: really could put a timetable on that. I don't think 75 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: that you know that. We go back to last year 76 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: and the fact that he had his chance to sign 77 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: an extension and he didn't. I think that's really where 78 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: the damage was done. If you want to say damage, 79 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: I think matt wants to run his own defense. I 80 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: felt like though that you know, they said, hey, we're 81 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're not going to let you, you know, 82 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: interview for the San Francisco job. And once that happened, 83 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 1: then Matt's decision for him was pretty easy. You know, Okay, 84 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: well then I'll just move on. I'll take my chances. 85 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: I'll bet on myself. Did somebody want to hire me 86 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: away from this place? Absolutely? Yeah. I think they viewed 87 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: him as a young star in the league coaching wise, 88 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: But you know, I think he took an opportunity that 89 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: was good for him. The Cults are standing by him 90 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: and keeping his new role as DC, and I think 91 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: they the Cowboys brought in a guy Chris Richard that 92 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: they're pretty excited about success. That's Sattle, absolutely, you know, 93 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: with you know, he's had some players in Seattle when 94 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: you think about the Legion of Boom and all that. 95 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: But I think to Brian's point, he's been saying this 96 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: for a while, he could bring in some fresh ideas 97 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: for the secondary. Absolutely. Would you like would you like 98 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: being Matt Patricia in this scenario, Like, hey, you can go, 99 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: you can go be a head coach, but we're gonna 100 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: keep this guy. He's our favorite. Josh McDaniels. You can't 101 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: get out of our grasp. Well, obviously kidding here did 102 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: not happen, but I would I would like to know 103 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: how much jurisdiction Patricia had with that defense with Belichick there. 104 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, did he really run it himself or was 105 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: he the caretaker? And those things? You just don't know. 106 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: It looks like he is calling the plays. But they 107 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 1: both got headsets on, right. Yeah. I always wondered about 108 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: that because the same thing happened with Wade Phillips here, 109 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: No in Brian Stewart with New England. Oh, the defensive 110 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: line coach romanel Cornell, Yeah, you know, and then he 111 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: got his job to be DC and it didn't work 112 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: out all that well or head coach? Was it? He 113 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: moved on to the head coach at Cleveland, that's right, 114 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: and it didn't work out so well. Has it worked 115 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: out well for anyone? So not anybody in clue, just 116 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: never know how much the guy has, Like like, well, 117 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: look what Patricia did in Detroit, right, he hired Paul 118 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: Pasqualoni as a defensive coordinator. Well, he's gonna be the 119 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator in name only. Patricia's gonna do that, and 120 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: I think head coaches, the reason you got the job 121 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: was because you were a good defensive coordinator. So I 122 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: think initially you ought to just keep doing what you're 123 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: good at. Mike Zimmer at Minnesota, right, Mike still calls 124 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: the defenses of Minnesota. I mean, I thought that was Wade, Wade, Wilson, 125 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips downfall here, should have kept being the defensive coordinator. 126 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: He mentioned the name Brian's and he hired Brian Stewartricia 127 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: hired him. Yeah, right, Brian Stewart started out as a 128 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Then Wade kind of said, Okay, I'm gonna 129 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: do this again. I'm gonna step in. Sorry, Brian. That 130 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: goes back to the whole walk around coach thing. Is 131 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: it better to not have all those responsibilities that you're 132 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: trying to juggle. Jason Garrett handed over play calling duties 133 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: to Scott Nahan after a while because it was just, 134 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: you know, let's focus on the whole football team. It's 135 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: a it's a tough balancing at Doug Peterson's doing it 136 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: pretty well in Philly. Yeah, he'll see how long he 137 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: does it. Yeah, he's done it for two years. He 138 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: just lost his OC though. Yeah, Frank rights pretty good 139 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: because now who would have thought this? Eberflus now united 140 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: with the OC from the Eagles. They know each other 141 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: well obviously watching so much tape on each other's That 142 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: could be an advantage. That could be a really good 143 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: advantage for him, the fact that he's got somebody that 144 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: has some familiarity with him through you know, respect. You know, 145 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: I believe that. You know, every time I've ever talked 146 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: to anyboy the Eagles, they respect the Cowboys coaches. They 147 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: I've never heard anybody like guy's a clown or anything 148 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: like that. I've never heard that. But now I think 149 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: that it bodes well for Matt if he could go 150 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: to a place where somebody has an idea of his work, 151 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: that always helps absolutely and Indy you guys will probably 152 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: see him there, So we look forward to that. Yeah, 153 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: and of course we know that Stephen and Jerry will 154 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: definitely talk when they're But what we're gonna say, no, 155 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: I was going to say it kind of now an 156 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: interesting dynamic and free agency with Matt Eberflus being in Indianapolis. 157 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: Do you lose Anthony Hitchens? That's a great point. I 158 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: mean that that's where now you've got a defensive coordinator 159 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: going away and was somebody that you like. It's it's solid, 160 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: they've got space. Yeah, from what I've read. Yeah, so 161 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: and he loves Hitchens. I mean, you know, yeah, that's 162 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: this guy. Guys, he's he's brought up through the system 163 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: to be there playing a lot and doing it. You'd 164 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: like to be making a lot of money, that would 165 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: be yeah, playing a lot, so okay, but passion of 166 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: the game. Well, and then Anthony's Anthony's a Midwestern guy, 167 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: I mean, school to Iowa there, so he understands. And 168 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, Matt, who better than to to convey your 169 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: message in the locker room than somebody you know and 170 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: trust that he could walk up, he could come into 171 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: the room and say or to Matt and say, hey, listen, man, 172 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: these guys aren't getting it. You need to think about this. 173 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: And I can't always want to keep him too, There's 174 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But logic states like Brian said, 175 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: I mean that there's competition for you there. How many 176 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: times have you guys seen that where a coach goes 177 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: to a new team and then they kind of pick 178 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: up some Oh Belichick did it he took If you 179 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: go watch the two Bills, he took all those linebacker 180 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: Pepper Johnson and ourselves did ye got here? But he 181 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: got here right? Yeah? Oh? And I mean look at 182 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: Marion Elli. He's brought guys that he knew about. Yeah, 183 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: on other teams, so exactly. Chicago and Tampa both pretty common. Well. 184 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: Last week, congratulations to John Stephen Jones, who signed with Arkansas. 185 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: While there, of course, his whole family showed up for 186 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: the event. Stephen Jones talked and Robbie wrote an article, 187 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: and I thought we could kind of spend a few 188 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: first minutes on the next three months being critical in 189 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys building a team to catch the goals. Because 190 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: I don't know where did Jerry say that pillow screaming quote. 191 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: I didn't I read it, never saw it or heard 192 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: it anywhere. Did you see that? What was the quote? 193 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: It was like you hear that mumbling, it's me screaming 194 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: and my pillow mad about the Eagles winning a Super Bowl. 195 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing this. Somebody probably caught up with him during 196 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: Super Bowl week. I didn't see Minneapolis, but Stampin was 197 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: asked go ahead, no, I was gonna say he said 198 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: it after the game. Oh he did, but didn't he 199 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: or did he saying about Philadelphia just being it was 200 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: reaction to him winning. Let's see where it says. I'm 201 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: sorry they say pro football talk because normally normally don't 202 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: Mickey's favor, No pro football talks. Okay, it's pro football 203 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: focus focus. Uh. Normally they don't striten for Christmas. Normally 204 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: they don't stay for the game. They leave like on 205 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: Saturday to come back. They stayed for the game, Yeah, 206 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: normally they haven't They all right? When it's the Cowboy, 207 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think anybody in the organization 208 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: loves that Philly's the champion right now. I think it's 209 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: competition in your division. They've got to find a way 210 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: to catch those guys. I Clarence Hill. Clarence Hill caught 211 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: up with him. He beat making to the scoop. He said, 212 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: the muffled voice you've been hearing is me screaming in 213 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: my pillow over not being here and seeing Philadelphia. So 214 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: that must have been prior to then. Yeah, that's a 215 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: hell of a quote right there, And I'm that sums up. 216 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a division rival. Now that you look 217 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: at him and say, they're getting the quarterback back healthy, 218 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: there got a lot of their pieces coming back. It's 219 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: going to be a challenge. But Stephen Jones did say ta, 220 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: and I'm quoting him here, he said, well, McLay, our 221 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: coaching staff, Jerry and I really got to roll up 222 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: our sleeves and improve our football team. And if we 223 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: do that, we think we've got a great opportunity to 224 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: compete for a super Bowl championship. End quote. So he 225 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: did speak to those next three months, and when he 226 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: was talking about was what we've got coming up, combine 227 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: free agency draft, how are they gonna address some of 228 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: the spots they need to fix. And I don't think 229 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: they look at it and say we're really far away. 230 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: I think they had some key injuries that they had 231 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: to do a better job of covering four and that 232 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: can be coaching that can add, that can be personnel 233 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: adding better depth at certain spots. But I don't think 234 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: they look at this and say we're miles beyond Philly. 235 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: That quote sounds like it was said at a social event, 236 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: knowing Jerry Jerry's quote. Yeah, Yeah, I don't know, Jed. 237 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: Social events is always good, right, Yeah, I like it regardless. No, 238 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty honest, right, yeah, But I'm sure 239 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: he was trying to be funny. You know, we'll focus 240 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: on Stevens quote because I think that's the important one. 241 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: That's the one that says, Okay, what are you going 242 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: to do to make your football team better? This is 243 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: the opportunity that you have, whether it's you know, like 244 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: he's talking about the draft, free agency. They made a 245 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: bold decision last year and really to let go of 246 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: all those defensive backs. Absolutely feels like it worked out 247 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: pretty well. Now how do you how do you replicate 248 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: what you did there? You did it through the draft, 249 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: but you know, now you have to figure out ways. Okay, 250 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: let's figure out what we need to do free agency again? 251 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: Is it the bottom fishing type of attack. If you're 252 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: going to do the bottom fishing attack, you got to 253 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: be better at it. And they haven't been better at 254 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. You know, if you're going 255 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: to now, they've also they missed on it. You know, 256 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: I think that Cedric Thornton was a it was a 257 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: big money free agent guy for them. It were their philosophy. Yeah, 258 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: and that didn't work out very well. So you know, 259 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: the pro personnel guys have got to figure out Okay, 260 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: if we're gonna you gotta keep pitching. You can't, you 261 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: know you can't. You guys you got did not go 262 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: absolutely take and fish yet, but when you bought bottom fish. 263 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: But but there's some teams. But if you look at 264 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: what Philadelphia with jeff with all Sean Jeffrey one year 265 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: deal initially, you know they they paid for them, No 266 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: one year deal, it was a one year deal. Long 267 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: was a short deal. Yeah. I'm just saying, they gave 268 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: money to Cedric Thornton. Yeah, and and in long term money. 269 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: And I think that's where if you're the Cowboys, Okay, 270 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: what direction do you go? If I'm Will McClay, I'm 271 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: now leaning on my my pro personnel guys and saying, 272 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: all right, listen here, guys, let's talk about this. Let's 273 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: figure out where we are when in regard to these players, 274 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, where do they fit? Are we going to 275 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: a year from now being saying, Okay, why do we 276 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: do this? I think this is an important time at 277 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: the college Scouts. I think did a nice job last 278 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: year with their guys. I think with the guys they 279 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: went out and got, you know, need to have another 280 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: one like that, need to add more pieces there. So 281 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: but the pro guys, you know, again, roll up your 282 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: sleeves and figure this thing out. Because if you're going 283 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: to bottom fish or playing this tip, dip your toe 284 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: in the pool, you better find some guys that can 285 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: match with what Philly's doing. If it has to be 286 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: with trades, you know, they've they've they've had some successful, 287 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, successful trades. I think David Irving is a 288 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: successful trade if people look at his ability. Now maybe 289 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: not Bryce Butler so much. That wasn't a successful trade 290 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: if you look at you know, look at the end 291 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: result of that they trade for Irving her now to 292 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: sign him off the practice, I thought he was a trade. 293 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: They signed him off Ken you know, but either way, yeah, 294 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: was it a practice squad one? Yeah, so U Kansas City. 295 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: But to your point, you know, McLay and and the 296 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: pro Personal Department have found guys through free agency in 297 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: some of that bottom fishing stuff before. I think it's 298 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: these last couple of years, there have been some some 299 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: things that just didn't work out, and h and like 300 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: we said, Philly's had some more success that way. I 301 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: there are certain spots on this team though people want 302 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: them to spend money, and I don't think the secondary, 303 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: for example, is one where you go out and you 304 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: spend try to spend a bunch of money. You have 305 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: young players that you want to grow. So if you're 306 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: gonna spend money, you got to figure out spots where 307 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: you got to replace guys or we absolutely need an 308 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: upgrade there. I don't think the secondary is one of them. 309 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: So where are you going to spend your money? You're 310 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: gonna go bottom fish or if you're gonna go look 311 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: for a free agent, what they're gonna do first is 312 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna look to resign DeMarcus Lawrence or franchise in 313 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: one of the two. They're gonna resign Zach Martin. I 314 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: think everybody's pretty confident that will eventually get done. That 315 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: should open up some space. They're gonna take care of 316 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: their own first, they always do, and then then it's 317 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: probably that next wave of free agency. I don't see 318 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: it changing from what it's been. I really don't. So 319 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: if you were going to go into free agency, know 320 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: what position are you looking at? That's a great question 321 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: to hold until after we come back from break, and 322 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: before we go to break, we do want to send 323 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: our condolences to the Garrett family on the passing of 324 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: Jim Garrett. All our thoughts and prayers with them. You know, 325 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: great long time scout here, obviously his most famous work 326 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: being Treykman's Scouting Report and Brian, you guys got a 327 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: chance to work with him, So just want to send 328 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: our condolences to his family right now going through a 329 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: difficult time. Yeah, Jim, Jim's outstanding. You know, I enjoyed 330 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: working with him the six years I was here, very 331 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: passionate about what he brought every every time. You know, 332 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: you could see where Jason gets a lot of his 333 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: focus and drive and things like that. Jim was the 334 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: same way. Really really enjoyed working with that absolutely, And 335 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: if you want to learn more about him, tune into 336 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: our Deep Blue which is currently on the homepage of 337 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com. It's the Jim Garrett story. Very fascinating, 338 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: lots of insight there. And when we come back, makee 339 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: your question, it will be answered, all right, we'll find out. 340 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: So that's next. It can be hard to find the 341 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: right resource for learning about important financial matters. 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Your question please, 386 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: if you were going to spend money in free agency, 387 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: what position do you think they need to fortify through 388 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: free agency? Tell me what happens with Anthony Hitchens. Okay, 389 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: as Bryant, are those guys going anywhere? Because if they are, 390 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: then you've got to look at replacing them. Scandrick. Scandrick's 391 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: another one. Although I feel again in Africa right now. 392 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: He didn't invite make you this year. Oh well we're 393 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: besties now, guy his jersey. Yeah, there you go. I'm sorry. 394 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to go back though, No, Brian. Brian was saying, 395 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: I think secondary wise, I feel better about the young group. 396 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you bring in another low cost guy 397 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: or something, but I think your low cost guy has 398 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: been wickery. Okay, you know you keeping you've already got him. Yeah, 399 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if Yeah, I mean he is under contract. 400 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: I don't know the situation they have been wickery. They 401 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: gave a draft pick for there you go. I'll get 402 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: one of these right one of these days. Sorry about that, folks, 403 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I think that you make a 404 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: good point about the linebackers because just when I'm finding 405 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: out in the draft is the depth of the linebacking 406 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: position is not great. So if you were you know, 407 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: if you if you had money, you would surely make 408 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: a run at signing your own at Anti Hitchins. But 409 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: the fact that you don't have any money, maybe you 410 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: can create some money. But I feel like though that 411 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: if you're going to go that way, maybe then you 412 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: try and find a guy more of a backup guy, 413 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: because if you're comfortable with Jalen Smith playing as the 414 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: mic linebacker and then now you get to figure out Okay, 415 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: Damian Wilson, we wrote about him yesterday in our evaluations. 416 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that you have to kind of 417 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: think about depth. That's really where the biggest thing is 418 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: can you get a guy? And they had some success. 419 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: I remember Jasper Brinkley was a guy they signed that 420 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: didn't really work out. You know, have they signed some 421 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: linebackers before They've tried to draft linebackers before. It really 422 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: hasn't worked out, you know, with the backup variety of mind, 423 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: I don't think Duran will be back for sure. He 424 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: won't be back. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, 425 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: that it released him, that that was two years ago 426 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: in my mind. I mean, that was a two years ago. 427 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: They tried to capture and capture that same type of 428 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: magic with him, and it just didn't work out. At 429 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: the end, he was like a healthy scratch at the end. 430 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: They really want to keep Hitchens. I think they recognize 431 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: the importance of having depth at that spot, just because 432 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: we've seen injuries. They've seen Sean get hurt. Obviously, Jalen's 433 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: been trying to get healthier and healthier. It just depends on, 434 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, what the money value might end up being. 435 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: What would your answer be to that, Mick, It would 436 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: be Anthony Hitchens if I could afford it. I want 437 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: what I know. I don't want to bring in somebody 438 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: else's trash. Can we put out a number. I want 439 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: to know what we're looking at with Anthony Hitchens? I mean, 440 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: is there any estimate what's the market for a linebacker 441 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: like him? It's a starting linebacker. That's that's a really 442 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: good that's a good question because I always always fear. 443 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: I fear the cap. I'm a I avoid the cap 444 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: is what I do well. And I'm just about trying 445 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: to go find me guys and somebody else figure out 446 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: how to pay the guy. Is because last year when 447 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: they did let all those dbs go, you knew a 448 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: good estimate for Clayborne, and you knew a good price 449 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: for bury Church even though you'd seen him stayed for 450 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: And then you know, I think maybe some people were 451 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: surprised with Terence Williams taking less money than what was anticipated. 452 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: Me just wasn't offer all right, let me ask you anything. Yeah, 453 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Ye. So, and if you look 454 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: at Barry Church, Jacksonville had just like all kinds of 455 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: money to throw at whatever they needed to spend. Otherwise 456 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: they were going to be below the minimum of what 457 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: you're supposed to spend in a salary cap. So you 458 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: never know when you run into a team that sets 459 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: the market value exponentially higher than what you think it 460 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: should be. And then in that case, it's like, okay, 461 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 1: here we go have a good career. Yeah, what were 462 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: you going to say? I'm looking at linebackers contracts, and 463 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm kind of looking on the low end of hing. 464 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: Like Danny Trevathan who was with the Bears and his 465 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: average was seven million a year. It's pretty good. Kevin 466 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: Mentor who was with the being Paul Puzzleski, I would 467 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: say in the state, Yeah, he's with Jacksonville. He's a 468 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: five million dollar year player. I wonder what the does 469 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: it have like signing bonus guaranteed money in there, guaranteed 470 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 1: for UH one point one point three for post Luski. 471 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: I always see his name run I can't always get 472 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: that right. But Trevethan was three three five million dollars. 473 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: What about Jacksonsville linebacker, the outside guy from Florida State? 474 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: Is he still on his first contract? I did inside 475 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: linebackers as well. He did. Look I just looked at 476 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: the inside linebackers like Luke Keikley is the highest paid one. 477 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: He's over he's twelvey three years, and Bobby Wagner's ten seven. 478 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: Alex Ogletree from the Rams, he's ten five. Mark Barron 479 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: from the Rams is nine million a year. He paid 480 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: a lot, but he was the first round. He was 481 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: but but he is that his second contract. No, this 482 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: is he's understricted into twenty twenty one, so he must 483 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: have resigned a contract. Yeah, so if you give something Bryanushing, 484 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: remember Brian Cushing with the Texans, he's eight seven. He 485 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: play at the end of the year, So so you 486 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: can count on him getting something that's going to average 487 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: five or six million a year. That's kind of what 488 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about right now. Give him a four or 489 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: five year deal. It's something in the twenties thirty range. Yeah, 490 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: like that, and you're gonna have to give him, you know, 491 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: and there's ways of reducing the big total by giving 492 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: him more of a guarantee. So you can say, okay, 493 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: I'll guarantee this much, but total is not going to 494 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: be as much as everybody else. See if you think about, okay, 495 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: the guarantee percentage like I did Ogletree, you know, at 496 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: ten million, that's forty five percent. Baron is at thirty 497 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: three percent, Cushing's is at eight seven, His is forty percent. 498 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: So I mean you're looking at somewhere. You're gonna have 499 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: to guarantee at least half his contract to get him here, 500 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: or maybe to get him to resign. Yeah, so that's 501 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: pretty significant, and you don't have a lot of money 502 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: available once you do the two things that talked about. 503 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: I have a question. I hate to ask this, but 504 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: it comes up. It definitely comes up when you're thinking 505 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: about giving him some more years. Is he two injury prone? 506 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: Is that even a who's that? Hitchens? Hitchens two injury prone? 507 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: You know? Is he just injury history? Does his injury 508 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: history concern you? How about this one? That was his 509 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: first injury? One't well, he's been he's been banged up 510 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: throughout his career. My ankle and yeah he's he's had knee. 511 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: Oh that took him out pretty much. Think about this. 512 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: Take this. That's a good question. Okay, if you had 513 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: to sign someone long term, well, I love, I love, 514 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm it's just gonna take a different direction if you 515 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: go long term with what you know with the back 516 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: of the of Lawrence or what the injury history of 517 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: what you know with Hitchens? Which one brings you more 518 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: pause if you had to sign somebody Hitchens as far 519 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: as because DeMarcus Lawrence got that back taking care if 520 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: he says he's been the best shape of his life 521 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: last year. Nck On Wood, knock on Wood. We didn't 522 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: see him miss a game with that. Yeah, he played 523 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. I mean, I know that's not a 524 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: real game, but you know, yeah, he's had two surgeries, 525 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 1: and yeah he did have the full season. Hitchens has 526 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: been more, like you said, just playing random things, because yeah, 527 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: he's just playing through stuff. And I think there's probably 528 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: pause Brian to any free agent linebacker because it's such 529 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: a punishing position. I mean, all those guys are going 530 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: to get beat up at some point. But he is 531 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: mid twenties, so I think, you know, he's still got 532 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: some good years later. Yeah, It's it's hard to even 533 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: say that. And that's why I was very hesitant to 534 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: even ask that, because, yes, his injury history is it's 535 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: kind of random. It's the ankle and obviously the knee 536 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: that happened in preseason, but he plays through a lot 537 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: of exactly because I was going to say, then you 538 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: look at some Kaylin Smith, where a lot of people 539 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: have been like, yeah, his injury history is terrifying. Yeah, 540 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: he played all sixteen. Yeah. The thing about Hitches, he's 541 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: not the biggest middle linebacker in the world. You know, 542 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: he's about two thirty five Hitchens. He played sixteen games, 543 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: sixteen games, sixteen games in twelve games. No, no, we 544 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: were Yeah, his rookie year, he was, he got banged up. 545 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: He's always played. No, no, he's always played. He's always played. 546 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: That's true. That run out, Mickey, just rush. I'm just 547 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: trying to says, just talking about, you know, a big 548 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: financial commitment in somebody. You've got always got to put 549 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: stuff into account. Um, I would. I would have a 550 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: financial commitment to Sean Lee. That's true. You did. If 551 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna play with a scared stick, then you're gonna 552 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: have trouble signing anybody. Well, then you just answer my question. 553 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: They're not worried about that. Then again, you never want 554 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: to sign anybody. Yeah, well, I don't want to sign 555 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: other people's junk. Yeah it's junk. How about for lords, though, 556 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: you're willing to pay him more than eighty five million 557 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: total value of his contract. Okay, here's the Here's what 558 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: I always go back to, though, if you don't bring 559 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: him back, I mean you're gonna franchise him now sure, 560 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: all right, but but now all of a sudden, I mean, 561 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: he's the closest thing to Award Daddy to quote Jerry 562 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: his term. I'm asking. I'm asking my colleague because he 563 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: wants not to sign someone else's junk, but I'm asking 564 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: him him about his own. He is willing to pay 565 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: more than eighty five million. I don't know that I'm 566 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: willing to pay him eighty five million dollars. That's where 567 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: because start, I can understand why, and I understand what 568 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: happened with Olivier Vernie. Jason Pierre Paul's up there too. 569 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: But but everybody, everybody points out that Vernon came off 570 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: a seven and a half sack season, But if you 571 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: look at his stats prior to that, he had a 572 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: bunch of double digits seasons, which that's why I got 573 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: eighty five million dollars, which Lawrence didn't have, right correct all. 574 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how much that factors into the decision 575 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: of the big number overall, which pay him seventy million. 576 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: That's gonna be, that's gonna be Claiss Campbell right now, 577 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: Clariss Campbell right now. Is it's sixty million his that's 578 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: fifty percent of his of his total guarantees thirty million dollars. 579 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: Average guarantee a year is seven and a half average 580 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: years fifteen i'd get I'd pay him average a seven 581 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, I would do that. I wonder 582 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: if he would want to do that. What do you mean, 583 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: take a little less, you know than maybe what he's 584 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: looking for. I don't know what he's looking for. I 585 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: think I think I think they're starting with Klais Campbell's 586 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: where what was Campbell's sixty men? Again, it's thirty million, 587 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: and it was Jacksonville. I'm just saying, though I understand 588 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: it's a free agent defensive end. So five was his 589 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: five years? Uh, he's through twenty twenty one. Yes, so 590 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: five years sixty million. Ye, average of it's fifty percent. 591 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to guarantee him thirty million dollars. That's 592 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: a lot. Five years, sixty million, So that's twelve million 593 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: a year fifteen that's the going rate for a Bowl 594 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: pass rusher fifteen would be seventy five million. Well, let's 595 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: say so it must not have been five years. It 596 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: must have been just four because he's through twenty twenty one, 597 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: so it becomes a seventeen eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one. 598 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: Five years. Yeah, average is average per year fifteen million. 599 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: It's total value the contract sixty million dollars, thirty million guaranteed, 600 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: average guarantee a year seven and a half. Let's just 601 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: throw that number out there. You're gonna give average guarantee, Yeah, 602 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: not the average. No, he's a fifteen million dollar year player. Yeah, 603 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: fifteen million over five and my math tells me that's 604 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: seventy five million, nine sixty. Do the Cowboys really want 605 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: to slot him at seventeen million dollars next year or 606 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: would you rather get something done that's palatable for both 607 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: sides and reduce that cap hit, because that's a lot 608 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: of money for one player, especially when we're talking about 609 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: trying to do with some extra things with this roster. 610 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: Would you've thought that four years ago from Dez Bryant? 611 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: What's that that type of contract did he sign? Would 612 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: he get five for seventy or something? The right? Mickey? 613 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: That sounds yes, that sounds right, Yeah, Kentals, that's correct. Well, again, 614 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: he was, I mean the time he's he was considered 615 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: top certainly top ten receiver in the NFL. And and 616 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: I mentioned him earlier like I'm I'm operating under thee 617 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: that he's coming back, But you know, there's speculation about 618 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: could he return, could he not return? If he doesn't, 619 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you're going fishing in free 620 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: agency for a receiver, in my opinion, because I don't 621 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: think you're gonna draft a guy. There's talented receivers out there, 622 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: but who you're gonna draft. It's gonna step in and 623 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: be your number one guy, you know. I think you'd 624 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: have to go out and find a replacement veteran, and 625 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: I just don't know if they they want to do that. 626 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: You know, what scares you? Create another big need for yourself. 627 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: So what scares you about giving DeMarcus Lawrence that kind 628 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: of money? What scares you? Yeah? I think maybe the 629 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: one year inconsistency. No, I don't know if it's inconsistency. 630 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: I think it's just one year. You know, maybe maybe 631 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: maybe injury has robbed him some opportunity to be the 632 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: type of player we saw last year. It certainly has 633 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: the back. You know, they had the one year with 634 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: eight sacks, right right, eight sacks two years ago. I'm 635 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: talking about that. If you're paying, if you're at the end. 636 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: He had back problems that needed, yeah, be a repair. Yeah, 637 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: it's surgery on his back, shoulder, two stray januaries. Yeah, 638 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: he's been through some stuff, no doubt about it. But again, 639 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: but again, it's like, this is the best pass rusher 640 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: you've had, and it's probably since DeMarcus Ware and his 641 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: first year got shortened because of the fractured fifth meta tarsal. Right, 642 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: you got miss the first nine games and then he 643 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: missed last year a lot with suspension. I know what 644 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: you're saying, Bright, it's a lot of money. But I mean, no, 645 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 1: I'm okay if you got a guy like that, No, No, 646 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,239 Speaker 1: I'm okay with I'm just trying to say, you know, 647 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: you look like say, I'm looking at Dez Bryant's contract 648 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: right now, you know, and I'm thinking, you know, several 649 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: years ago you made that kind of commitment. Are you 650 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: worried about making commitments to these guys that at the 651 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: end of the day we're talking about three years from now, Well, 652 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: why why are we on that commitment? Are you? Are you? 653 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: And you're it goes. Do you think the Giants are 654 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: happy with Vernon's production. I don't think so. I mean either, 655 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: I don't think so, And I think that's that's what 656 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: That's what scares see, Mickey, You brought up Olivier Vernon 657 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: had has had he had like an eleven sack. Yeah, 658 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: he's had back to back seasons. But you're right, if 659 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: you don't draft, or you don't draft, you don't sign 660 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: those guys. I mean, the draft is not going to 661 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: afford you a guy like that. No, it's not, it's not, 662 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: it's I mean, I'm just I'm just talking abot what 663 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm seeing so far. Unless you're gonna go up and 664 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: get Nick Chubb or the not Nick Chubb, but you 665 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: get Chubb from yeah, from North Carolina State. Oh yeah, 666 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: he's a defensive end. There's Chubb that's a running back, 667 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: and there's Chubb that's a defensive end. Great last name, 668 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: and this, yeah it is. And this is why the 669 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: philosophy is. This is why the philosophy is is sound. 670 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: That's funny, thank you, good dad joke. That's why they 671 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: prefer to sign their own guys to these big money 672 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: deals because at least they feel like they have a 673 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: bank of knowledge on that player that other people don't have. 674 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: Instead of going out and spending eighty million bucks on 675 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: a guy that, hey, they've watched him on tape, they 676 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: don't really know him. That well, So that's I mean, 677 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: does it always work. No, But that's why they go 678 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: with that flock. What's going to happen with them? They're 679 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: gonna franchise him, and because I think his agent Cantor 680 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: I think his name is um probably wants to find 681 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: out get a better feel for what the market value sure, 682 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: and so you would have an opportunity and free agency 683 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 1: to to check that out to see what's he worth? 684 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: What what should I hold out for on a long 685 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: term deal. Otherwise it's like, okay, one year, seventeen point 686 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: four million. I think I think they're gonna I do 687 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: think they're looking at Klai's Campbell steal. I just do. 688 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of where. Okay, Well, they both 689 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: were kind of back and forth this year on on sacks. 690 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: You know, okay, what did he get Cowboys franchise Anthony 691 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: Spencer two years in a row, I think for at 692 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: the time for like twelve million bucks. Boy he signed 693 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: that thing like the next day. Both years, did you 694 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: know what? Yea? Which free cash right away? Of the Cowboys? 695 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: Which extension has been the best? Tyron Smith does Bryant Travis, Frederick, 696 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: Shawn Lee, Tyron Crawford, Jason Witten, Orlando Scandrick pull Beasley. 697 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: Which one, which one's been the best? Jason Witten, Travis, 698 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: Frederick Bailey, No debts, right, Dan Bailey's in there, thank you. Ken. 699 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: I would say Tyron Smith just because there's a lot 700 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: of years that he's He's signed a ten year deal 701 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: a few years ago. There's been a lot of Pro 702 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: Bowl years there. Frederick's been really solid, but it's only 703 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: been a couple of years. Shaun Lee is pretty good. Yeah, 704 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: So what you're saying, though, is what I'm I guess 705 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying to you guys is the extension for 706 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: your own hasn't been bad for this team, right, And 707 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: that's the Yeah, that's the philosophy. We know these guys 708 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: better than we would somebody on the market that okay, 709 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: yeah he's good, but do we really know about him? 710 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: And most of the time, I think that's sound logic, 711 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you mentioned Dez and now we're 712 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: talking about future here, but it's not always the imagine 713 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: if the Cowboys had extended Morris Clayborne and paid that 714 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: kind of money and what they were, well, they wouldn't. 715 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean I know that, but you had had a 716 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 1: really solid years. Yeah. See, that's that's the thing about it. 717 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: You know, you you look at this thing and you know, 718 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: you're just you're just you're kind of a sign of 719 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: your own because if I've said this before, if Lawrence hits, 720 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: Hitchens hits and David Irvin hits on the market, somebody signs. 721 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: Those guys are getting signed. I mean, those guys are 722 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: getting money. So signing your own signing them, it's like 723 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: a good like a good year in free agency. Yeah, absolutely, 724 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: and seeing Unfortunately people don't look at it that way. No, 725 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: but the bottom fishing has killed this team these last 726 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 1: two years. They have, Yeah, the debt. To Mickey's point, 727 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: he always talks about depth, where the Eagles got away 728 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: with it. They had a fifth round tackle play. You 729 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: had a third round tackle that wasn't terrible for you 730 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: until October last year. You know, you had that guy 731 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: that was able to kind of step in at play 732 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: for Tyrant Smith until he had an awful game in Atlanta. 733 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: And now we're all throwing him out with the bathwater. 734 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: And he's got one more year left. Yeah, I need 735 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: to work with him at tackle. I keep working with him, 736 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: all right. Well, yes, get back to more of what 737 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: you'd better cover yourself, sorry, cover yourself during this break 738 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: because we have to take our final break here and 739 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: Mickey is just dropping the one liners today, so don't 740 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: miss it. Final segment coming up right after this. Cowboys 741 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: fans know that the second best of anything simply won't 742 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: cut it, and your skincare should be no different. 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Yeah, John, 781 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 1: he's worried that I'm going to take over his advertising 782 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 1: spot and they're still doing the dual layer pepperoni. When 783 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: you spend ten dollars on either a deep dish or 784 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: a regular size large size pizza, you get two layers 785 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: of pepperoni. So what could be better than when you 786 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: have pepperoni that's one pork and beef and you double 787 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: the amount you get and with ingredients like that and 788 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: the amount of ingredients better pizza. It's Papa John's man. 789 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: They won't hold you down right to take over a 790 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: spot you had those memorized. Yeah, how about think the 791 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: dead money is for Cedric Thornton two point five million? 792 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: How about normally Carroll two romo eight point nine? There 793 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: you go, thirteen point seven dead money for you this year. 794 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: That's a lot, Brian, especially when it's just three guys. 795 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: That's probably you like to just not work and be like, 796 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: well they still owe me two mills. No, they don't pay. 797 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: It's just already paid. Yeah, and now it's just going 798 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: to be a vege a chill in the PAC twelve. 799 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: All right, good for him, Jelly yep, all right, our 800 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 1: aggie on set Phillips. Yeah, I got throughout a bunch 801 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: of Hey, give us some pole ideas for the offseason. 802 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: We got a bunch of good ones from guys. You 803 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: unn No, I'm just you know, this is the fans show, Mickey, 804 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: you're letting the people speak their show. Brian gave us 805 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: a good one. Thank you to Brian. Brian always if 806 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: he agrees with them post results, Yes, we'll find out 807 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: very quick. Okay. Here he came up with this idea 808 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: about the defense. I'm switching to offense. Where will the 809 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: offense be ranked in twenty eighteen, because there's so much 810 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: consternation about this unit. Can they bounce back to where 811 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: they were a year ago? Four options one through five, 812 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: six through ten, eleven through twenty or twenty one to 813 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: thirty two? Anybody got a thought? I will pick where 814 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: they left off after eight games last year, and it 815 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: was number five. I vote it done. This poll actually 816 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: you did, Brian and I voted for the first one 817 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: one through five. One through five. Wow, now we bastely absolutely, yes, 818 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: figure out what's going on at left guard. You know 819 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: what to add another runner if you want to maybe 820 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 1: add another receiver somewhere, start as tight ends coach. Yeah, 821 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: I believe it. Yeah, you're buying that day. Yeah, okay, 822 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: that does not come in first, but not not too 823 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: far away. Six through ten, forty nine percent of the 824 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: fans believe they'll be a top ten offense again next season, 825 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: followed by twenty seven percent one through five. So hey, 826 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: that's some optimism from the fan base. I haven't seen 827 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 1: that in the last six weeks. What if what if 828 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: they get rid of Dez Bryant? It's knowledgeable. What if 829 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: they do well, that's what I said last segment. You 830 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 1: got to find a receiver. They can. It's going to 831 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: take us place. No, no, no, no no, If they would 832 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: would would your opinion change if they move on from 833 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 1: Dez Bran? I'm sorry, maybe I should rephrase the question. Well, 834 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: I didn't have to see what they did to replace them, 835 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: and if you look at they don't. If you look 836 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: at the projected list of free agent wide receivers don't 837 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: like it. None of them had better numbers than Diz. 838 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: That's true, none of them. None of them. Yea, And 839 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: we don't know how many of those guys will get 840 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: resigned between now in March fourteen. Brian, I know there's 841 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: some receivers you like. Oh, there's some in the draft. 842 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: I mean there is an adjustment for rookies coming in. 843 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: I mean that's there's a perfect example. That is David 844 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: Hellman's albatross. He wears that one around his neck. He 845 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: loved treadwall oh coming out. Oh yeah, David is really 846 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: wise guy. I mean just check his Instagram. Well, sometimes 847 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: with wide receivers it takes a year or two, right, 848 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 1: but if you're for him, it's taking more than two. 849 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: If you're saying, okay, we're moving on and this guy 850 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: is gonna come in and catch seventy passes for nine 851 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: hundred yards and ten touchdowns, that's asking a lot. That's 852 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 1: asking for a rookie. It is absolutely it is. Hey, 853 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: I did go back and look at the last five 854 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: years where this offense has been ranked scoring and yardage. 855 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: I didn't specify in the poll, but three of the 856 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,280 Speaker 1: last five years they've been a top five scoring offense. 857 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen, twenty fourteen, twenty thirteen, they were fifth in 858 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,439 Speaker 1: scoring right around mid twenties, close to thirty points a game. 859 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: The twenty fifteen year, they dropped to thirty first, seventeen 860 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: point points a game. Didn't have a quarterback that could 861 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: play consistently and not in a non explosive running game. 862 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: Zeke comes in, Dat comes in. That changes. Last year 863 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,879 Speaker 1: they dipped to fourteenth twenty two point one points per game, 864 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: And really what killed him was that three game stretch 865 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: when Zeke went out. They didn't get to ten points, 866 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: so that that was it. They didn't adjust well, and 867 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: that's really where the season was. At the half white point, 868 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: they were averaging twenty eight points a game. Yeah, Tarl Prior, 869 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: Mike Wallace, Sammy Watkins, Eric Decker, Tay Enman, Taylor, Gabriel, 870 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: Kamar Aiken, Kindall Wright. They my beating heart. How are you? Yeah? 871 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, Kent. These are buddy with us. Those are three. 872 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: Those are guys that are contracts, that free agents that 873 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: would be your guys for this thing. Prior, Wallace, Watkins, Decker, Edman, Gabriel, Aiken, Wright, Slater, 874 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,879 Speaker 1: Andrea Robbins Albert Wilson, that's not good. Yeah. Well, here's 875 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: the thing though, I mean, that's where you need to 876 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: draft if you if you're going to make a move, 877 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 1: you better draft it is a run first offense. Though 878 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 1: you know, you get Zeke for sixteen games, he's the 879 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: foundation of it, but you still got to have guys 880 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: that can get open and convert their downs and do 881 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: all that stuff and have a connection with Dak Prescott. 882 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: We'll just catch the ball. That's easy. Two years ago, 883 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 1: they were pretty good at it. Last year not so much. 884 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,439 Speaker 1: They were one of the best teams in the league 885 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: when it came to catch drop a ratio. So can 886 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: somebody unlock that mystery? Oh line, baby, I think that 887 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 1: we've we've talked about the on linement. They've also had. 888 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: They also had problems getting open though they did, they 889 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: had they had problems. Let's not let's not just closs 890 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: over that. So okay on Jay Law get yeah, no, 891 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 1: and that's you know, and you know what, that's fair. 892 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: That's fair. You know that, you know if you're hey, 893 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: I think everybody is on watch. I don't. I don't 894 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: have a problem with that. I really don't. There's not 895 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: one thing about this offense that's to blame for everything. 896 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you make a great point make about the 897 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,240 Speaker 1: offensive line, but there's elp. I agree with them about that, Yeah, 898 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: but there's other factors. Oh, why did it work for 899 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: eight games? Suddenly they decided let's not be Dack friendly? 900 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 1: It wasn't perfect for eight games average, They had eight 901 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: points a game, and they scored at least twenty eight 902 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: games three through eight. We get a call, Yeah, show 903 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: next week. Maybe an old lineman, What old lineman would 904 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: you like to ask that question too? What? Why did 905 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,959 Speaker 1: it work for eight games? Because they were healthy? Yeah, 906 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: and they were on the field. I wonder if they 907 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: would have a different opinion on why it worked? Yeah? 908 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,720 Speaker 1: Or why? Yeah? Why? Yeah? You know it's it's Iron 909 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 1: was out a few games off here, and I know 910 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: Chas Green was better than anyway. The Atlanta game, for 911 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: some reason, took this season in a bad direction for 912 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: three weeks, and I think it gave everybody a blueprint 913 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 1: out there that do not, I'm cringing, do not let 914 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott beat you. Don't let him outside the pocket. 915 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 1: Do whatever you have to do to make sure he 916 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: doesn't beat you without Zeke there we can take chances. 917 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: And I think teams did that because they didn't fear 918 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: that running game. There was no one going to run 919 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 1: eighty yards for a touchdown or fifteen yards for a touchdown. 920 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: Rod Smith take an eighty yard pack? Yeah, I know, Okay, one, 921 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 1: there's one one in eight games. Rod Smith isn't a 922 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: free agent, right, you got another Jack he's back, Alfred is. Well, 923 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: let's see if we can find some answers, because I 924 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: think we asked that question a lot, and you know, 925 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 1: we've had different theories. Mike Marshall throughout a theory and 926 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: we've all just thrown out our own thoughts, but I'd 927 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 1: love to hear it from them. Yeah. I don't know, 928 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: we'll find it out, but yes, very very conclusive stuff here. 929 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: So you were saying though that everybody thinks it's six 930 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: to ten, Yeah, you would take that. I think was 931 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: that in scoring or just average yard? I didn't specify, 932 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: just said, but to me, how many points you're scoring, 933 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: that's more important to me that I'm a yard you 934 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: pile up. Yeah, defensively, they'll tell you they don't care 935 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: about the yards. They care about how much they give up. Yeah, 936 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: they got put in some bad spots with some pick 937 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: sixes they got thrown onto their record last year. Yeah, 938 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 1: three of them. Right, I'll tell you what. You look 939 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 1: at what they did in twenty sixteen offensively, twenty six 940 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: point three per game, almost four hundred yards per game. Yeah, 941 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,240 Speaker 1: you should figure that twenty six point three over fifteen games, 942 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: since they didn't really play the last game when they 943 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,720 Speaker 1: only scored what did they score six six points? Yeah, 944 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: so they were close to twenty seven something, almost twenty 945 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: eight as they were scoring the first eight games of 946 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: last season. I will I will spot you that that 947 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: when Zeke they got through that Chiefs game, they looked 948 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: like a dominant offense. That might have been their best 949 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 1: win all year. Yeah, I mean the only games they lost, Okay, 950 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 1: throw out Denver. They scored thirty points in both of 951 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,280 Speaker 1: the games they lost the other two. They were awful Chargers, 952 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: weren't they. Yeah? Oh yeah, that was kind of the 953 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: game that trying to turn things around for the defense. 954 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 1: I think in that three game stretch they got outscored 955 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: ninety two to twenty two. That's fun. That's bad after 956 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: averaging twenty eight points a game. Yeah, strange, lady, This NFL. No, 957 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: sure is Rob. It's good to have the NFL's defending 958 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: rushing champ on the field. Well, we have him on 959 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: the field. But you know, you're not You're not wrong. 960 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: But fans and I don't blame them for they kind 961 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: of roll their eyes at that now because they watch 962 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: what Philly did. What did Philly do? They won the 963 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl without their MVP quarterback, so many games that 964 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 1: they have to win without him six x and they 965 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 1: hit all all their free agents too. Yeah, they did 966 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 1: that too. I'm not Steven Piot was pretty dope. They 967 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: didn't win six all right. I think he was five? 968 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 1: Was he five and one and they going through the playoff? 969 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: I think they were. I think he was out the 970 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: Rams game. I thought it was gonna give me the 971 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: date of the Rams last three games of the season, 972 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: now he missed. They He lost one game. That's all 973 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: he lost. He only lost one game, I lose to 974 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 1: the Rams or they know he came in and saved that. Yeah, 975 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: they saved the Rams game. But he only he lost 976 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,720 Speaker 1: one game. The only game they lost was the Dallas Boys. 977 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 1: The Dallas game, yeah, which they punted the super shady 978 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: tweet that someone said like Nick Foless, weren't one more 979 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 1: playoff games in the past two months than the Cowboys 980 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 1: have since nineteen ninety five. Very nice, You guys us 981 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 1: such a shade, much shade. It's easy to pile on 982 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: it's true, but it's true. Yeah Bowls, Yeah, count me 983 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 1: in as a guy. Didn't think he would get it done. 984 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: I didn't. I was not a Nick Foles fan. I 985 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,720 Speaker 1: figured sating out in the playoffs. Though we're losing. Okay, 986 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,280 Speaker 1: you're losing your starting quarterback. You've lost here and Sproils. 987 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: You've lost Jordan Hicks, he lost when they lost Jason Peters, 988 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, they're not even gonna have 989 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: a chance with Carson Wentz the rest of the year. 990 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 1: And then they did that, lose Carson Wentz. I know 991 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 1: it's just agonizing. You gotta give him credit, but you 992 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 1: got you also, if you're if you're a fan, you're 993 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: pissed off. You also have to give credit for Dallas 994 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: for what they did two years ago. Losing what they lost. 995 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: It didn't it didn't go their way this year. That's 996 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: why they got to go back to the lay seventeen games. 997 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott played seventeen games, I know, and he had 998 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 1: a hell of a year. But they got to get 999 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: back to the drawing board and figure out how to 1000 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: maximize it. You know. When they were very fortunate to 1001 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,439 Speaker 1: win their first playoff game, by the way, that is true, 1002 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: balls on the two yard line. That play call there, 1003 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: Steve Sarkissian, and you scored fifteen points. But did you 1004 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: think that game that they held they held at lant 1005 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 1: in check? I got you. That's that's that was more 1006 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: impressive to me. And wasn't one of the passes that 1007 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 1: led to their only touch down like bounced off someone's knee. 1008 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,839 Speaker 1: They got nick, they got the trophy. I understand they 1009 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: have resided in Philadelphia. I got it. Lombardi is resting 1010 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: in God Street right now. Somebody said that the formation 1011 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: they did, that Philly special or whatever, it's actually an 1012 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: illegal formation. Chris, Yeah, Mike White Pereira came out and 1013 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: said it was. I saw. I went back and look, Chris, 1014 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the first person that notified me that, 1015 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: Christie Scales. Christie Scales came up to me, goes, you 1016 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: got the super Bowl in that box of yours yet? 1017 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, ma'am. I mean I looked at No, 1018 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 1: it's not there yet. She goes, legal formation, trust me, illegal. 1019 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,800 Speaker 1: This is two weeks. This is like after the game. 1020 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: This is like the Monday after the game. She's going, 1021 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,720 Speaker 1: that's an illegal formation. Are you talking about the superpoint conversion? 1022 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: About the past? Yeah, the touchdowndown, the fact that Jeffrey 1023 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: was off the receiver put on the line of hiding. 1024 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: Was the tackle was uncovered? I read somewhere that they 1025 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: check with the official before the play to make sure 1026 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 1: that they're lying. They said Jeffrey did, but Christie Scales 1027 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 1: was the first one, and I know we're showing it 1028 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 1: right now on our screen. I mean, I don't know 1029 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,399 Speaker 1: if he checked or not. But if he checked, then 1030 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: the same official that didn't call it here it is 1031 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 1: right there. You can see it anyway. You can see 1032 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 1: it right there. See see the depth of the of 1033 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: up at the top. That guy's got to be on 1034 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 1: the scrimmage. Yeah, the tackle is uncovered in that situation, 1035 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: he's in man line of scrimmage. So that right there 1036 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: is an illegal formation. Christie Scales exactly came up to 1037 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: me and says, that's a legal formation. Well, at least 1038 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 1: with guys. We know it was a catch. We do 1039 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: a cat. It was a catchy comment, zach Ertz. You 1040 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,399 Speaker 1: guys just catching it all. Yes, if it's a catch 1041 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 1: for them, it's a catch for eighty eight. That's that's 1042 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,839 Speaker 1: That was a prime example of why you should call 1043 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 1: timeout on defense. When they saw that happened, they we're 1044 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: gonna do the razorback or whatever you want to call it, 1045 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: hike and you saw where the quarterback was. Should call timeout? 1046 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,320 Speaker 1: Are you questioning the hoodie right now? Yeah? Because then 1047 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: you did win a Super Bowl goal line defense. Though 1048 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: one time they're there, their linebackers had if you run 1049 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 1: the plate, the linebackers had no clue for that was 1050 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 1: going on. They weren't prepared for that one. Oh man, 1051 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 1: I think I think we should be invited to the 1052 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: league meetings, do you think, Mick? Yeah, we know what 1053 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: it catches. Y'all come join me and kid, we'll have 1054 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 1: some company. You guys can sit in on them and 1055 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 1: you raise your hand report backs. Is what I think 1056 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: a catch should be. Yeah. Sure it will be interesting 1057 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 1: to Steve and Jones you talk about that, because Rob 1058 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,280 Speaker 1: and I will be at the combine. Stephen Jones competition committee. 1059 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: We always talked to him the Tuesday of when they're 1060 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: there meeting. Yeah, I'm gonna ask him that might be 1061 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 1: the first question right out of the blocks. Yeah, if 1062 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: you figured out what a catch is yet? Can you 1063 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: call timeouts on defense for Mick? Who is that? By 1064 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: the way, who is that? Kent's was Sean from New York? 1065 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: Sean San? Oh, here we go, there we go. We 1066 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: were all standing right there. There's one angle of that. 1067 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 1: Does this being the blue jatchet. I'm like to Dave 1068 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,400 Speaker 1: in a bad outfit and about to choke Hillman at 1069 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 1: that book. This is the angle that's that's hard to 1070 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 1: watch because it's a football. His arm is kind of 1071 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 1: under the ball at this point. It is a kind 1072 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: of total football move to get to the goal line. 1073 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,479 Speaker 1: That's guys. I don't know if you saw on Dallas 1074 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com that cow buzz that showed a man 1075 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma's state I think still water. Yeah it was death. Yeah, 1076 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 1: this is a different guy, this guy who decided to 1077 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: put the picture of the catch painted on the back 1078 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,920 Speaker 1: of his truck. To what Ken just showed you is, 1079 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: were you convinced watching that that his arm wasn't under 1080 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 1: the ball when the ball popped up, Like, did the 1081 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 1: ball really touch the ground standing ten feet from it? Nope. 1082 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: The official standing eight feet in for me agreed. It's 1083 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: like that license plate death. There you go, right there, 1084 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 1: there you go, eighty eight. Got at baby, he's down. 1085 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 1: All right, guys, Well, we have one more show for 1086 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 1: you guys before the combine, right, we do next week. 1087 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 1: You are here, yes, guys are back in the building 1088 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 1: ready to go. Before you head up to Indian, say 1089 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: hi to Eberflues for us, we will rest the crew. 1090 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 1: So thank you so much for joining today. Thank you 1091 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 1: Ken Brian. It's all that's pretty good work there. Whoever 1092 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: put that up, can't or TV or whoever take thank you. 1093 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you cut us off. Don't ever 1094 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: do that, all right, Thank you so much. By This 1095 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 1: has been at Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 1096 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club.