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Speaker 1: Your conscious mind has logic, Your subconscious mind has happened.

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Speaker 2: Are we able to change our subconscious one hundred percent?

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Speaker 3: Jim Curtis is a transformational coach, author, and hypnotherapist who

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Speaker 3: has spent years studying how the subconscious mind shapes our reality,

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Speaker 3: not just how we think, but how we heal, love,

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Speaker 3: and create. He teaches that we don't manifest what we want,

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Speaker 3: but we manifest what we believe our identity can achieve.

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Speaker 4: It's emotion driven.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has to just say one word and how they're feeling.

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Speaker 1: So question everything because when we stop questioning things, and

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Speaker 1: that becomes absolute truth. Questioning yourself, right, is this the

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Speaker 1: right choice? As opposed to why did I make that choice?

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Speaker 1: It's allowing you to control your own mind. I'm no

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Speaker 1: longer a victim of it. Yeah, and instead its life

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Speaker 1: is not happening to me anymore, It's happening through me.

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Speaker 1: Anytime that we want to change our identity, just start

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Speaker 1: to change the way that we use the word the

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Speaker 1: two words I am, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Rady w KA and on my podcast, A really good

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Speaker 3: Cry we embrace the messy and the beautiful, iding a

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Speaker 3: space for raw, unfielded conversations that celebrate vulnerability and allow

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Speaker 3: you to tune in to learn, connect, and find comfort together.

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Speaker 2: Jim, thank you so much for being here. I'm so

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Speaker 2: grateful to have you.

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Speaker 3: Have been following your work for a while, and I'm

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Speaker 3: so excited to have this conversation with you.

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Speaker 1: I've been following your videos and work for years. Have

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Speaker 1: you Yes, Yes, I love everyone that you cut together,

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Speaker 1: and I always thought you.

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Speaker 4: Were so funny.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Well, hopefully we'll be able to have some sort of

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Speaker 3: if not most of it, is to do with the

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Speaker 3: what is the subconscious mind?

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Speaker 1: The subconscious mind is the level below your conscious mind,

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Speaker 1: So some people call it the unconscious. But the school

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Speaker 1: Imagine if when we're sleeping, we're actually just going into

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Speaker 1: So the subconscious mind is the level below your conscious mind,

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Speaker 1: the autonomic nervous system. Some people even believe it's not

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Speaker 3: And is it something that we have the ability to

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Speaker 1: Can control because we built it. It's a program, so

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Speaker 3: Your conscious mind has logic, and your subconscious mind has habit. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So we've been programmed, right, All this stuff is programmed

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Speaker 4: Jack Osborne, Osborne's son.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. He and sorry Jack, if you listen to this,

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Speaker 3: Well, tell me more about hypnotherapy because obviously it's such

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Speaker 4: Those are the transactional.

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Speaker 1: So with hypnotherapy you can go from the transactional of

448
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Speaker 1: I want to remove that fear to a broader, bigger,

449
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Speaker 1: life changing identity change, which is I'm good enough, right,

450
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Speaker 1: I don't have to be afraid of not being good enough.

451
00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,320
Speaker 1: I can be my authentic self because it's enough, and

452
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Speaker 1: therefore we can get to what we want most, which

453
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Speaker 1: is love.

454
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Speaker 4: And so through.

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Speaker 1: Hypnotherapy, it's mostly talk, right, We talk. When I do

456
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Speaker 1: a session with clients or my groups or anything like that,

457
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Speaker 1: they're hours long and we only go into hypnosis for

458
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Speaker 1: like the last twenty minutes. So it's allowing the conscious

459
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Speaker 1: mind to tell your subconscious mind. Because we can direct

460
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Speaker 1: our subconscious mind, it's like it's just there to take orders.

461
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 1: Whatever we ask it to do, it will find out

462
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Speaker 1: how to do it. So it's allowing us to get

463
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Speaker 1: into a state we call it the alpha theta bridge

464
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Speaker 1: into a theta state so that we can make changes

465
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Speaker 1: to the program. And it's not like the here's the

466
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 1: myth that like you're unconscious, that it's mind conreuer.

467
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that you'll act.

468
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Speaker 1: Like a chicken up on stage, which you can be,

469
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Speaker 1: but that's not therapeutic in any way. You actually want

470
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Speaker 1: to be in a place where you are aware of

471
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Speaker 1: what's going on. So it feels as though you're kind

472
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Speaker 1: of just in a really relaxed state. And it's it

473
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Speaker 1: is not mind control. It's yeah, maybe it is my control.

474
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Speaker 1: It's a little minctrol. It's allowing you to control your

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Speaker 1: own mind.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like, I imagine when you're you're saying you're

477
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Speaker 3: in a relaxed state, which essentially means like I think

478
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Speaker 3: about when you're even getting injection or something, and they're like,

479
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 3: you need to relax your hand to allow the needle

480
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Speaker 3: to like even get into your body. For it to work,

481
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Speaker 3: you need to relax your hand. So imagine the subconscious mind.

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Speaker 3: When you were saying that I was imagining that if

483
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Speaker 3: you're in a tech because I was going to ask

484
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Speaker 3: what type of people have you noticed it doesn't work on?

485
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Speaker 2: And in my mind, I thought, maybe they're.

486
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Speaker 3: The people who are really like they're blocking, they're blocking

487
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Speaker 3: the they're protecting, They're trying to create a barrier around

488
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Speaker 3: their subconscious mind to not allow someone to enter.

489
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Speaker 1: Exactly right, right, Yeah, we're so powerful. Yeah that if

490
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Speaker 1: you don't want it to work, it won't work.

491
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Speaker 3: So with mental health and with you know a lot

492
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Speaker 3: of the mental health disorders, do you think something like

493
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Speaker 3: hypnotherapy is a useful tool in that, whether it's OCD

494
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Speaker 3: or whether it's deep anxiety.

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Speaker 1: I think there is so many different tools that help people,

496
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Speaker 1: but I think a lot of the traditional therapy just

497
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Speaker 1: focuses like rehashing the past. Yes, and as you read,

498
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Speaker 1: that's why people are in therapy for ten years and

499
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Speaker 1: keeping and they don't really see much change in their life.

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Speaker 4: Right, It's time to stop rehashing the past.

501
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Speaker 3: I was just about to ask you whether you think

502
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Speaker 3: it's possible to train your subconscious mind or change it

503
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Speaker 3: without having to do years of therapy.

504
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and I'm seeing it.

505
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Speaker 1: I mean I'm able to do that. I was able

506
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Speaker 1: to do it myself and able to do with my clients.

507
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Speaker 1: I mean the most powerful people like Joe Dispenser and

508
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: Tony Robbins who are kind of like have you know,

509
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Speaker 1: partially my teachers. They they can do that really powerfully,

510
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Speaker 1: so that you don't have to dwell on the past.

511
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Speaker 1: It's over, it's done. Looking in the rear mirror is important,

512
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Speaker 1: but driving in it and it is really bad.

513
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

514
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Speaker 3: Whenever I watch Joe Dispenser's stuff and I hear people's feedback,

515
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Speaker 3: it's amazing how much physical pain is held in the

516
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Speaker 3: body just through what you're holding in your mind, Like

517
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Speaker 3: the amount of physical pain that is manifesting in someone's

518
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Speaker 3: body but is actually linked to their fears, their anger,

519
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Speaker 3: their emotions that are actually being held in their heart

520
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Speaker 3: or in their mind.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

522
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Speaker 1: I released all my pain just by releasing those things.

523
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Speaker 4: Wow.

524
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Speaker 2: And you mentioned the Buddha.

525
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Speaker 3: You mentioned that you've been studying Buddhism. What were some

526
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Speaker 3: of the most beautiful kind of ideas or principles that

527
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Speaker 3: you learned when you were studying different philosophies.

528
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Speaker 1: I've and even in high school, I went to like

529
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Speaker 1: a Jesuit high school. Yeah, we had theology classes of

530
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Speaker 1: different religion and beliefs really interest me, but Judaism and

531
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Speaker 1: Buddhism interests me the most.

532
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Speaker 4: There's a lot of crossover there.

533
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Speaker 1: But this idea of living in some sorrow, this suffering

534
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Speaker 1: of life, and like what does it all mean?

535
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Speaker 4: And well how do we get out of it?

536
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Speaker 1: Is the biggest thing for me because it's all all

537
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Speaker 1: in our mind. Yeah, and once we can go within

538
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Speaker 1: and relieve the suffering, the some sorrow of our mind,

539
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Speaker 1: like these thoughts that are creating the beginning and end

540
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Speaker 1: of all suffering? Is that was so transformational for me?

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Speaker 2: Was there daily practice at all?

542
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Speaker 3: Do you have daily practices that you do to help

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Speaker 3: with maintaining this mindset well that people can incorporate into

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Speaker 3: their day to day life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It started I guess twenty years ago.

547
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Speaker 4: I went to.

548
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Speaker 1: My first Buddhism class and we went in and we

549
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Speaker 1: did the Metabhavna like this loving kindness?

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Speaker 4: Did say that?

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Speaker 2: No? Say that again?

552
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Speaker 4: Is how did I say the mena Bhavna? The Meta?

553
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Speaker 2: I haven't heard of that?

554
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Speaker 4: Okay?

555
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the loving it's it's the meditation on loving kindness mon.

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Speaker 3: Above no, maybe mone like mon Abovena. Yeah, yeah, maybe,

557
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Speaker 3: I'm sure you know, I'm sure you're right. I was

558
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Speaker 3: just trying to make sense of the words from what

559
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Speaker 3: you mentioned. Money means mind and bavna means love. So yeah, okay, wonderful.

560
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Speaker 4: Likely I got that pronunciation.

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Speaker 1: So that changed my That one meditation really changed my life.

562
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Speaker 2: And what does it take you through? What does it do?

563
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Speaker 1: It takes you through this visualization of sending white light

564
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Speaker 1: love from your body to your child self, to friends

565
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Speaker 1: and acquaintances, to.

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Speaker 4: Strangers, to enemies.

567
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Speaker 1: And then to the universe and world itself.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, beautiful.

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Speaker 3: I think Jay actually did that in one of his

570
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Speaker 3: shows where he was going taking people through that practice

571
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Speaker 3: and remember feeling this like incredible energy of everybody doing

572
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Speaker 3: it at once, all in one room, and it is

573
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Speaker 3: so powerful, like it's such a beautiful practice. I didn't

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Speaker 3: realize that it was a common meditation.

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Speaker 4: That's yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I did that for years and it changed

577
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Speaker 1: my life. That was one of my practices.

578
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Speaker 2: And that's something you could do every day yourself.

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Speaker 4: Do every day, do every day this?

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Speaker 3: And what are you saying in your mind when you're

581
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Speaker 3: in this practice? So you're sending love to different parts

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Speaker 3: of you, your body, and then you know, emanating out

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Speaker 3: into the world. Is there anything that someone should be

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Speaker 3: repeating in their mind as they're doing it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that you need to repeat anything in

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Speaker 1: your mind. I think it's and you don't have to

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Speaker 1: steal your mind. One of the things that I say

588
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Speaker 1: a lot of my meditations visualizations is that your mind

589
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Speaker 1: may wander or wander, but you'll still listen to every word. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because whether you're thinking, mind is thinking. It's a little

591
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Speaker 1: bit different than the meditations of just letting it go. Yes,

592
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Speaker 1: they come in and let it go. This is allow

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Speaker 1: your mind to visualize that that energy, that beauty, that love,

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Speaker 1: because it amplifies your own energy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, so doing this meditation practice mon above not

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Speaker 3: And then is there anything else that you recommend?

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Speaker 1: I recommend of the things that I do that I

598
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Speaker 1: recommend really visualizations. Most of it's visualization of what you

599
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Speaker 1: really want. So a lot of people have trouble with

600
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Speaker 1: that because they visualize being happy or whatever it is, or.

601
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Speaker 4: The money that they want. But what is it that

602
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Speaker 4: you really want?

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Speaker 1: So I'll ask people a lot what do you want?

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Speaker 1: They really don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say, it's hard sometimes people,

606
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Speaker 3: it's really difficult to know what is it that I

607
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Speaker 3: actually want?

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Speaker 4: What do I want?

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Speaker 2: Is it based on what other people want for me?

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Speaker 3: Is it based on what I've seen other people being

611
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Speaker 3: happy doing?

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Speaker 2: How do I figure that out? What is it that

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Speaker 2: I want?

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Speaker 1: So the exploration that's part of it. Every day, it's like,

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Speaker 1: why do I really want? Let's start small? Why do

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Speaker 1: I want for today? Okay, that's not coming. Let's get

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Speaker 1: very specific. So the universe, this illusion that we're in,

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Speaker 1: we can create anything that we want unlimited. The potential

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Speaker 1: is unlimited as soon as we figure out what we want.

620
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Speaker 1: So let's start eliminating. What don't I want. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be overthinking today. I don't want to be,

622
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Speaker 1: you know, upset. I don't want to be angry with

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Speaker 1: my spouse and my partner. Now, what do I want?

624
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Speaker 1: Let's think of something that I really want to find.

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Speaker 1: I want to find a yellow butterfly. Okay, so how

626
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Speaker 1: do I just start small with that. I'm going to

627
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Speaker 1: write it down on a piece of paper. I'm going

628
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Speaker 1: to tell my subconscious mind that I want.

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Speaker 4: To see it.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go to bed, and I'm going to

631
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Speaker 1: sink it in the data state that I'm going to

632
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Speaker 1: see a yellow butterfly. I guarantee a yell butterfly. It's

633
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Speaker 1: going to show up in some way, form or shape.

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Speaker 3: I love that you said start with even today, like

635
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Speaker 3: what do I want today? Because I think, like you said,

636
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Speaker 3: most of us will say, I just want to be happy,

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Speaker 3: I want to feel I don't want to feel sad

638
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 3: or I you know, we think about these big emotions

639
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Speaker 3: and we generalize that feeling into like I just want

640
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Speaker 3: to be happy. But then if you're someone, well what

641
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Speaker 3: is it that makes you happy? They may not even

642
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Speaker 3: know what it is that makes them happy?

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Speaker 2: Like how?

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Speaker 3: And so to figure that out? Even if it starts

645
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Speaker 3: with that my crow, okay, today, what would make me happy?

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Speaker 3: If I visualize my whole day, what is it going

647
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Speaker 3: through my day that would make me happy? Okay, smiling

648
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Speaker 3: at someone and receiving a smile back that would make.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent? Start small like, yeah, well, the smallest

650
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Speaker 1: things are the best things. It's the ultimate currency, right,

651
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: It's the smallest thing. So we start to say, okay,

652
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Speaker 1: now I can't even cultivate that. I'm so you know,

653
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Speaker 1: I'm in a state where I can't even cultivate that.

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Speaker 1: So we start with gratitude, right, So what's the one

655
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Speaker 1: thing that I can be grateful for today? And even

656
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: if that feels mundane or it's not resonating, your subconscious

657
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: mind knows that it's safe, because ingratitude is safety.

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Speaker 3: Yes, definitely, I think people get really tired of hearing this,

659
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Speaker 3: the grastude, grastud gratude, because it's, you know, such an

660
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: overused word. But actually, even if I think it's better

661
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Speaker 3: that something positive is overused, then all the other negative

662
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Speaker 3: things that could be piercing through our mind through social media,

663
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Speaker 3: through everywhere else. So actually, even though this gratitude I

664
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Speaker 3: feel like we hear it all the time, it is

665
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Speaker 3: actually such like it is one of the deepest words

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Speaker 3: that we need to have in the front, nor even

667
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: on the back of our mind, in the front of

668
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: our mind every single day, every single moment to be

669
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: able to transform it into something that you know, to

670
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: be able to transform a part of your day that

671
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: feels either blah or negative or unexpected into something that

672
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: can feel brilliant in your life. And so, yes, it

673
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: might be an overused word, but it is such a

674
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: powerful word that should be used every single day. You

675
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: should have it in your mind every single day.

676
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: The practice of it is the most part. It's also

677
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: water seems pretty mundane, doesn't.

678
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: It, right?

679
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: Exactly without it you die, yes, exactly quickly.

680
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: It's so true.

681
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd prefer to have like a fruity beverage or

682
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: literally water is we think, unless you're in a country

683
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: where there is not clean water, then it is the

684
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: most powerful thing and the most mundane things, and we

685
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: overlook them because, you know, we think that it's too.

686
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: Easy get excited about the little things. That's honestly a

687
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: big change that I made in my life. I don't

688
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: even know whether it was conscious or not, but I

689
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: think it was a conscious thing, like just to be

690
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: so excited by the things that I do every single day,

691
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: like whether it is and you know, after being in

692
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: having I travel quite a bit, but especially when I

693
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 3: go to India specifically to do with the water you

694
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: mentioned it, and for me, you know, the clean water

695
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: you get comes in plastic bottles.

696
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: You can't drink from the taps there, And so when

697
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: I would.

698
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: Come back home, I'd be like, oh my gosh, it

699
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: tastes so good to have this water and it is

700
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: so amazing. And so every single day now when I

701
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: have a filtration system, I'm so grateful that I have

702
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: a filtered water system. I'm so grateful that when I

703
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: drink water, I don't have to think about whether it's

704
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 3: going to.

705
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: Harm me or not.

706
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: And so even in the day to day things of

707
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: what am I eating and oh my gosh, this is

708
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: We're so lucky to have this beautiful food in front

709
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: of us, or the water that we're drinking, or the

710
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: movement that you get to have in your body, like,

711
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: there's so many things every single day to live in

712
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: gratitude for that. I think it's such a if you're

713
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: waiting for the bigger moments to feel gratitude, you're not

714
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: allowing yourself to be in a state of gratitude until

715
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: something huge happens. Here's a sad life to be that's

716
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: like a sad life to live with that.

717
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: But sometimes we started wearing so much pain that we

718
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: can't even trying to figure out the gratitude.

719
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 4: We can't, right, we can't.

720
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: But that's when I say do this, which is create

721
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: more pain for yourself, like going to India and not

722
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: being able to drink from the tap. That created some

723
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: sense of pain, worrying whether you were going to get

724
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: sick or not, and then when you came back, you

725
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: received it in gratitude. You ever see those guys that

726
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: put on the blindfold and go into darkness for like

727
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: a week. That's painful, and then all of a sudden

728
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: you take off the blindfold and the beauty of the

729
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: light and everything that you see, the people who are

730
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: weeping and so Vie beautiful.

731
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what is it? So?

732
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: I made the mistake of reading an article about myself,

733
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: I think from some London news. Oh no, he says,

734
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: like Jim Kurtiz prescribes the most woo woo things. But

735
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: I said, if you're not grateful for your feet in

736
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: your legs and just not even recognizing how easy it

737
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: is for you to walk, try putting a stone in

738
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: your shoe, just for a couple of hours, Yeah, and

739
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: then take it out and you'll be so grateful that

740
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: pain is gone.

741
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: That's so true. Yeah, And it's what I was going

742
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: to ask you.

743
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: You know. You said, sometimes you're in so much pain

744
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: that you can't feel gratitude. As someone who's obviously been

745
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: through physical pain a lot of the time. Even if

746
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: I talk about, well, you don't have children, so you

747
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: don't know how this feels, or you don't you haven't

748
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: been through this, so you can't say that I should

749
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: feel this way. And so it's someone you know, not

750
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: that it's a blessing, but as someone who's been through

751
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: pain that can really help guide people through it. What

752
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: would you say to someone who is in a lot

753
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: of physical pain, Because I do think physical pain can

754
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 3: take us away from our spiritual practices. It can take

755
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: us away from our gratitude, It can take us away

756
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: from being able to function. And so for people who

757
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: are going through physical pain on a daily basis, whether

758
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: it's through arthritis or something a bit more serious, what

759
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: are some things that they can do, Like how do

760
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: you move away from that pain and into gratitude when

761
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: it feels so far away?

762
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, physical pain is the most overwhelming thing because all

763
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden, nothing is important in it. Yeah, right,

764
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: if you've ever so, whether it's an illness or even

765
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: if you've just had back pain or you throw your

766
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: back up. Yeah, this all of a sudden, nothing else matters.

767
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: Those things like that work that you needed to do,

768
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: and like the see in that restaurant dinner that you

769
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: need to go, all of a sudden, it doesn't matter.

770
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: And so the biggest thing is that we start to

771
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: really get upset and angry and worried about that pain,

772
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: right right, And the first thing is what if this

773
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: lasts forever?

774
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

775
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: And so now we're feeding and dwelling it, and all

776
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: the chemicals that we're releasing towards that is fueling the

777
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: inflammation of that pain. And so it's really hard to

778
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: do but to start to think about things that make

779
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: the pain go away. And burn victims, they often show

780
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: a lot of really funny movies and they showed that

781
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: burn victims that played video games felt less pain.

782
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: Distracted from it.

783
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: Burn victims, And I say burn victims because the studies

784
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: that were done like this is the most intense pain

785
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: that you can have. So those that were laughing at

786
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: funny movies felt less pain. And so what creates a

787
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: distraction for you into what allows you to allow the

788
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: most amount of endorphins and oxytonisin out in your body

789
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: so that the pain is numbed. Now, with hypnosis, people

790
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: can go undergo root canals and without any anesthetic. Wow,

791
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: So we know that our opioid receptor is the ones

792
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: that we take drugs for to help us release more

793
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: of so that we don't feel pain.

794
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 4: We can release that with our mind.

795
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: That's amazing. I didn't know that about the rook And

796
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to try that one day. You've been talking

797
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: about knowing what you want, and I think some way

798
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 3: you say, we don't manifest what we want, We manifest

799
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: what we believe our identity can achieve. Yes, can you

800
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: break that down for people who are trying to manifest

801
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: something in their life right now? Like, how do you

802
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: start manifesting what you want in your life?

803
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: Okay, So we start to think about manifesting, it's like

804
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: if I had know that million dollars anywhere like out here, now,

805
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: I'm going to visualizee and feel it all those things, right,

806
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: But we have this belief that like, yeah, yeah, I

807
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: can't have.

808
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: You know that this is not the identity of me.

809
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: My identity is that I'm a nine to five worker

810
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: and that I make my salary and that that's my

811
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: that's my identity. And identity has a homeostasis like everything

812
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: else in our body, ceiling and a floor if I

813
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: lose my job, I'll find another one. And the ceiling

814
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: is the million dollars that probably can't get to and

815
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: we just kind of stay in the middle. So to

816
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: change that, to start to have what you want is

817
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: to start to realize, and I call it realizations instead

818
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: of manifestation, is start to realize that you can become

819
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: the energy at any time, that everything that was programmed

820
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: before you can start to reprogram and that how you

821
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: do that is by telling yourself over and over and

822
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: over again what you want right and going into a

823
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: data state, whether it's meditation or hypnosis, and changing those beliefs.

824
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 3: And I think there's one thing about continuously saying things

825
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: out loud, and I do think there's a power in

826
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 3: that where you say things out loud and eventually you'll

827
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: believe it. But part of me things it's a little

828
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: bit deeper than that, because you can keep using words

829
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: at the surface level of saying I want a million dollars,

830
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 3: I want a million dollars, I want a million dollars.

831
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: But if your deep rooted self is telling you, actually

832
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: you're not smart enough and you really can't get that,

833
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: you might think you can, but really is it realistic. Yeah,

834
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: and so part of me thinks and I love this

835
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 3: word so much. I was actually going to call my

836
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: podcast this But delusional optimism is something that I have

837
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: a deep belief in, and I think a lot of

838
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: successful people in the world have this ability to be

839
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: delusionally optimistic where and you kind of need that, especially

840
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: if you're changing jobs, doing something that's crazy, that's out there,

841
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: that's something that you wouldn't ever believe for yourself. You

842
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: need to start being a little bit delusional and a

843
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: little bit delusionly optimistic. And I think that's required because

844
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: you can keep telling people this is what you want,

845
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: but until you one create the belief for it, but

846
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: then create the actions to show that you believe it,

847
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: like how or almost living as if you already have

848
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: that in your life, almost presenting yourself as if you

849
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: already have that in your life. And there's a difference

850
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: between faking it and doing all the work to make

851
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: yourself get to that point. Like you're still you're doing

852
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 3: all the work that's required. It's not just believing it,

853
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 3: it's not just saying it it's okay. Now I'm actually

854
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 3: going to put into practice and do every single piece

855
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: of you know, the puzzle that's required for this to happen.

856
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: And I think you kind of need all three of

857
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: those things. You need to be doing the work, you

858
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: need the belief, and you need to be saying it.

859
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: I think you need a sprinkle of delusional optimism and

860
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: love that.

861
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: I love that.

862
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: A good cry or delusional optimism, I'll take it a

863
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: good cry.

864
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's two other things.

865
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: I really love that because delusional optimism means I'm good

866
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: enough to take action right. And the second part is

867
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: any time that we want to change our identity, just

868
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: start to change the way that we use the word

869
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: the two words I am.

870
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 4: Because I am is one.

871
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: It hits into our belief system so powerfully. When we

872
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: say I am something that means anything. To the contrary,

873
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: we're not for right unless and anything that flows with us.

874
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: We are for yes.

875
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: Right from the very basic like I'm a sports fan.

876
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: That means that like I love to go to games,

877
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: Like if I'm a Boston sports fan, that means like

878
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: my team has to win. That means I don't like

879
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: other teams. Or I am delusionally optimistic. Yes, that means

880
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: that I can make anything happen.

881
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 4: That I'm in a good mood.

882
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: And then of course there's a much bigger I am,

883
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: which is I had a one and ten trillion chance

884
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: of being born. I am source. I am life itself.

885
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 4: I am the energy that.

886
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: Creates all of this and everything else and illusion. So

887
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: if I am the source, then I can say I

888
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: am anything that I want to be and it will

889
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: become it.

890
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: Yes, and I love what you said about well the

891
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 3: idea of I am, but then also create. Every time

892
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: you believe you are something or you want to become something,

893
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: It's almost like we wait till we feel that way

894
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: to have the proof and belief that we are, but

895
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: instead of taking action to then become it.

896
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense, like we end up.

897
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I really want to be I don't

898
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: know why have I been wanting in my life. I'm

899
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 3: just thinking, Oh, yesterday I was talking to Ja, my husband,

900
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, I really I need to

901
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: go back into study mode, Like I know I really

902
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 3: want to do hibology and I want to like I

903
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: need to study more. I'm in this zone where I

904
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: feel like I really am seeking.

905
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: Knowledge and I need to forget what it is.

906
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: And I've been saying this for this whole year, by

907
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: the way I've been saying but now it's become this

908
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: thing where I've been saying it, saying it's saying it.

909
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: But then I was like, what have I done to

910
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: actually manifest and make it happen in my life? Okay,

911
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: I've been saying I want to do it, but I've

912
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: been telling myself I don't have the time. Behind the scenes,

913
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 3: I've been telling myself that if I start it, I'm

914
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: not going to finish it because.

915
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 2: I don't have the capacity right now to do it.

916
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: I've been telling myself all these things that actually my

917
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: want is not backed up by my belief and I

918
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: haven't created the time in my schedule or even try

919
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: to physically create space to allow it to happen in

920
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: my life. And so what I should be doing is

921
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 3: the other way around. Yes, I want to do this,

922
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: So now let me create the space first. Then let

923
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 3: me sign up to the course. Let me do all

924
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 3: the actionable things that allow me to believe in this,

925
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: that believe it's possible, rather than saying I want to

926
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: do something and just expecting it to happen.

927
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 4: What action is that.

928
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: If you leave out action from this recipe, then you

929
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: the cake doesn't rise.

930
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, such an action before belief.

931
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I would try this. So you want to

932
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 4: study more?

933
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

934
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: Right, So you want to study more because you want

935
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: to become more not your.

936
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just feel like I'm at a place where

937
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: I output a lot, and for me, I feel like

938
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: I need to feed into I love studying, I love learning,

939
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: and I feel I haven't been in that phase of

940
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: my life for a while.

941
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: Okay, And so what's the identity of someone who studies more?

942
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: There's the identity is I'm a scholar.

943
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm a scholar.

944
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,479
Speaker 3: And I think part of it, you know you're asking

945
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: the question. I think part of it is also feeling

946
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: like I have the qualifications to share the things that

947
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: I want to share.

948
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, you just uncovered a limiting belief. Yeah,

949
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: Which is I need this so that I can be knowledgeable.

950
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: Yes, or so that I can share.

951
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: I think that's the part of it for sure. Yeah.

952
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 4: So there's two things.

953
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: There's one like, I'm a scholar, which means that's an

954
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: identity because the action that you'll take as a scholar

955
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: is easily learning. And the more that you say, you know,

956
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: what are you doing in life. Well, really, you could

957
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: say I'm a student of life, I'm a scholar. And

958
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: the more that you say that, then you'll have to

959
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: be aligned with it. You'll have to take the accor

960
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: I like that.

961
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

962
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: The second part is undercovering the belief that why you

963
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: are a scholar. I know, is it one because you're

964
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: completely interested in want to share and let other people

965
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: grow or is it because you feel as though you're

966
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: not smart enough?

967
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 4: Now?

968
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: I think it's both, if I'm honest, I think it's

969
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: a mixture of I absolutely love all the things that

970
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 3: I've learned in my life that have helped me. Oh

971
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: my gosh, it makes me so happy when I get

972
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 3: to share it and then hear people also being impacted

973
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: by it. I think a deeper issue is I've always

974
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: felt like I'm not smart enough to be able to

975
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: share things, whether it's from the grades I got in

976
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: college or whatever it was, like, I've always felt like

977
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: I need to keep proving myself educationally to feel like

978
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 3: I'm I have the right to share what I'm sharing.

979
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: And so I think it's definitely a balance of both.

980
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: It's not more one than the other, but the second

981
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: dairy one definitely creeps in to my desire of like

982
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 3: why I want to do something.

983
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: And then it's interesting that you're actually not taking the

984
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: action to do.

985
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 3: It right now, Yeah, because I keep telling myself I

986
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: probably won't succeed at it because I'm going to like

987
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 3: stop doing a halfway or Yeah.

988
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: So that removing that belief that I need to do

989
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: this to be worthy.

990
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: Will allow you.

991
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: To like gift, It will allow you to shift in

992
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: the sense that, like, I'm doing this because I wanted

993
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: to contribute, and so do you.

994
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: Think for me to do that, I would have to

995
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: focus just start trying to focus on the primary of

996
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: what I was saying that I want to do it

997
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 3: to learn to help other people. Like is it just

998
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: shifting my focus or is it doing other work in

999
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: the background to get rid of that secondary feeling?

1000
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: No, I think it's You're already identified, right, So what

1001
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: needs to shift. It's this idea of you know, I

1002
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: need to have fifty credentials for anybody to listen to me.

1003
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 4: And the truth is you're inherently worthy.

1004
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: Yes, That's all you have to do is do some

1005
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: research and be able to express it so that your

1006
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: worthiness lies in your ability to communicate. Right, we all

1007
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: have these different superpowers. So consider that your worthiness doesn't

1008
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: need to have a degree because you already have the

1009
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: superpower that's incredibly unique, which is where we are right

1010
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 1: now in your podcast. So that is your worthiness interesting.

1011
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: And so you're comparing your worthiness to your perception of

1012
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: other people's worthinesses, which is a professor that has from

1013
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 1: Cambridge or right, And really, you have something that's completely

1014
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: unique to most of the world is the ability to

1015
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: express yourself to millions of people in a way that

1016
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: is relatable, likable, authentic, and lovely.

1017
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: We didn't ask you to ask you that question, so

1018
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: you would give me compliments. But I appreciate it.

1019
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: Oh now, let's look at that what in you is

1020
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: resistant to receiving that compliment as if it's not true.

1021
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: I know, I appreciate it. I thank you.

1022
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 4: Let me ask you in a different way. This is good.

1023
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: I feel like people can So here's.

1024
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: This is a normal linguistic programming. Okay, I wonder if

1025
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: you know what an impact you make in the world. Mmm,

1026
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 1: how does that feel different from what I just said?

1027
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of what I do.

1028
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 3: I I wonder whether it's having I have a lot

1029
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: of questioning in my mind to what I do in

1030
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 3: terms of knowing whether it's impacting people because I don't

1031
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 3: get to speak to people on a daily basis, and

1032
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: sometimes obviously the negative takes over the positive of course.

1033
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 4: Of course.

1034
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: And so how would it feel if you knew that

1035
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: you already could do whatever you wanted in terms that

1036
00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: you didn't need.

1037
00:45:59,160 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: To study anymore?

1038
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 2: How would I feel if that I could still impact

1039
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: people without having to study, If.

1040
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: You didn't have to do another you didn't have to

1041
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: go and it, or you didn't have to do any

1042
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: of that. How would it feel to know that you

1043
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: could impact people regardless of that?

1044
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 3: I think you'll feel amazing, But I still feel like

1045
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 3: I think I would feel like I'm missing something because

1046
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: I think learning is a big part of something that

1047
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 3: feeds me and makes me happy.

1048
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 4: Good. And now the idea that you know that you

1049
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 4: can learn.

1050
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: Well, yes, that's something I'm working on.

1051
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 4: So there it is.

1052
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to the idea that I can learn, well.

1053
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I need to believe that I am a scholar.

1054
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 4: Right, And that's what it is. I'm a learner.

1055
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: I'm a learner. I'm going to start saying that now

1056
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: I'm a learner.

1057
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: They literally got to a point where he was like,

1058
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: you need to stop studying because you've been studying for

1059
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: ten years of your life. Before I even started this,

1060
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: I did two degrees nutrition and dietetics. Then I did

1061
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: a yoga teach training course, then I did an Ivada

1062
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 3: Health counsel of course, and then after I was like,

1063
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: I think I need to do like one more thing,

1064
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 3: and he was like, you need to stop with this

1065
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: studying now and just be okay with what you're doing.

1066
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh yeah, but now I've gotten

1067
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: back on it. This has been a few years, but

1068
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 3: it's really useful.

1069
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 2: Actually, thank you. It's really interesting. It's such.

1070
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 4: Together for another time. We'll schedule the session.

1071
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: All right, let's not make this about me.

1072
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: I could tell no, no, it's not.

1073
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. It's really useful to go down

1074
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 3: this trial. And you really have to spend time doing it,

1075
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 3: don't you, because there's so many things that can pop

1076
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 3: up in the way of it too.

1077
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. Wow, it takes expiration.

1078
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 3: We talked about manifestation, but I was wondering whether there's

1079
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: a specific process that people should follow on a daily basis,

1080
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: Like if they wanted to start manifesting every single day.

1081
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: Is there like a guide that you have or something

1082
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: that helps people to really understand the process, because I

1083
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 3: think that it's a not a scientific process, but there

1084
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 3: is something to the act of manifesting.

1085
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1086
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: I think it's first identifying what you want yep, and

1087
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: then telling your subconscious mind exactly what you need to

1088
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: get it, and then taking action. So that looks like

1089
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: is identifying what you want.

1090
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,959
Speaker 4: So for me, this is.

1091
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: I want to write a new book, and I want

1092
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: a new publisher, and I have this idea for the

1093
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: book that I want, And so what I do is

1094
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: I go in and I start to understand very specifically

1095
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: what I want the book to be, what I would

1096
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: like the book, what I'd like to sell the book

1097
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: to them, what i'd like for the purchase price, and

1098
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: then how I wanted to affect people. And so I

1099
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: started to tell myself, I'm an author for the publisher

1100
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: that I want, So I'm a best selling author for

1101
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: the publisher that I want, that's really affecting and contributing

1102
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: to the world in a great way. And then I

1103
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: start to feel that how does that feel.

1104
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 4: If that's true?

1105
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: Is there any resistance, and then I go, okay, what's

1106
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: the resistance? And so then I will go into self hypnosis,

1107
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: which is much like meditation but allows you to go

1108
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 1: deeper and then direct it.

1109
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 4: I can show you how to do that.

1110
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: And then from there, I say, what is the action

1111
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: if I am this person?

1112
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 4: What is the action that I need to take?

1113
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: One is find an agent, find to write a proposal,

1114
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: pitch it, figure out what I want to say and

1115
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: help hypnosis we can get into really easily because there's

1116
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: always a listener in your mind and the person listening right.

1117
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: Is a practice that we could go through. Now.

1118
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So when you close your eyes and I

1119
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: just want you to observe your thoughts, and so as

1120
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: you observe your thoughts, I want you to now tell

1121
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: your thoughts something and just tell just either tell it

1122
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: to stop thinking something or start thinking something. I just say,

1123
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: start thinking about erbology. And now can you hear the

1124
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: one that says, stop thinking about our apology? And then

1125
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: you recognize the one that's listening. Okay, And so now

1126
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: the one that talks that says start thinking about erbology,

1127
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: you just tell it to repeat after me.

1128
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 4: And so.

1129
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,479
Speaker 1: Tell that voice to tell the one that's listening that

1130
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: it can imagine its body getting very heavy. You can

1131
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: imagine your body getting very heavy. And then with each breath,

1132
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: you can imagine your shoulders relaxing. And you just repeat

1133
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: these things from the one that talks to the one

1134
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: that listens, and then you say, you can imagine and

1135
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: actually notice that your lower back has pressure against the

1136
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: cherryer on good And then tell it that with each

1137
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: breath that take, that you just relax a little bit

1138
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: more as your brain sinks down, and it doesn't matter

1139
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: if your mind wanders. And then with each breath you

1140
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: can tell it that it will relax more. Then give

1141
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: it a visualization. Say you're walking down a hallway. At

1142
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: the end of the hallway there's a flight of stairs,

1143
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: and you take steps down those stairs and it's only

1144
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: eight of them, and at the end of eight steps

1145
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: and be in a deep, relaxed state where you can

1146
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: start to tell yourself and recognize who you are. And

1147
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: then you count down eight deeper and deeper, seven, six,

1148
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: repeating after me to the one that's listening five, four, three,

1149
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: two one deep relaxation, and you say, here, down here,

1150
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 1: we can create whatever we want.

1151
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 4: I am a scholar. I am a learner.

1152
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: I am good enough as I am and still can

1153
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:46,479
Speaker 1: achieve more. I am capable and worthy. I will learn

1154
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: more because it is my path. I will take the

1155
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: steps because it feels good when I accomplish it and

1156
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: feel your body expand in the energy. Now visualize the

1157
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: achieving a different degree and making some content around it

1158
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 1: that people are going to benefit from. Now, with the

1159
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 1: mind that speaks, you just start to direct yourself to

1160
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: come back, and when you do come back that you'll

1161
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: feel relaxed and positive, that you'll feel ready to take action.

1162
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: And then you comp back up one, two, three, four, five,

1163
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: eyes wide open and awake, and you're back.

1164
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 3: I really could see when you were saying walk down,

1165
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 3: and I could visualize the steps down. It's amazing how

1166
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 3: much you can actually visualize in your mind. Yeah, and

1167
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: I could physically see. I saw all the walls, I

1168
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 3: saw the path, I saw the going down the stairs.

1169
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 3: Down the stairs was a bit scary and dark.

1170
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 4: First, Oh sorry, sorry.

1171
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: Usually I'd say, you know, it's a very well lit,

1172
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: well led, beautiful staircas most beautiful stircus you've ever seen.

1173
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: No, But then when you started telling me like you're

1174
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: a scholar and I was like, oh, now it feels

1175
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: lighter and brighter.

1176
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. That's such a beautiful thing and people

1177
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 2: can do that themselves.

1178
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just have to identify the like as we start.

1179
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: We listen to our thoughts all the time, and so

1180
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: you can actually direct that voice to direct your listener

1181
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: from your So it's basically your higher self and your

1182
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: lower self. From your higher self, you can put your

1183
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: lower self into a trance and then tell it whatever

1184
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: you want.

1185
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: Wow.

1186
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: So hypnosis is a little bit more in depth because.

1187
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 4: I guide you.

1188
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: But with that specifically, people can practice self hypnosis and

1189
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: make dramatic changes in their lives at any time.

1190
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to definitely do that.

1191
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 3: That felt really Yeah, it felt like I was speaking

1192
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 3: to myself in myself.

1193
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: It was a very interesting feeling. Yeah, what is NLP, by.

1194
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 4: The way, lingoistic programming.

1195
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 2: And how is that different to hypnosis?

1196
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: So hypnosis you close your eyes, you go deep within,

1197
00:53:54,520 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: and some people I categorize neural linguistic programming is almost

1198
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: conversational hypnosis. So we start to talk and it's questions,

1199
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: it's a lot of it is embedded, okay, and so

1200
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: it's questions that embedded. For example, you have trouble receiving compliments,

1201
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: or maybe it's on your problematas now but whatever. But

1202
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: if I was to just try to get that expression

1203
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: across to you, I would ask questions instead, like I

1204
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: wonder if you really know if and then you want

1205
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: your subconscious mind, which deals in questions. It's all it's

1206
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: doing is really answering questions, right, so that it can

1207
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: process and direct which belief to use, would have to

1208
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: look for the solution of that question. So if I

1209
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: asked you a question based in the positive, it would

1210
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 1: have to find the positive solution to it.

1211
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 3: Right.

1212
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: If I said I wonder if you know how accomplished

1213
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: you are, you'd start to say, how do I know

1214
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: if I'm accomplished, and your subconscious mind would be like, well,

1215
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: I do have all those degrees. I guess I am accomplished, right,

1216
00:54:55,120 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: And then neuro linguistic programming also allows you to change

1217
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,959
Speaker 1: your emotional energy to a future state that you want.

1218
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: So when I said to you before, how would it

1219
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: feel if this issue is no longer an issue? And

1220
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 1: you said that feels really good, and then you went

1221
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: directly back, but yeah, and so what we would do,

1222
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 1: is we would remove that butt so you don't go back,

1223
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: but you felt for a second that excitement around that potential.

1224
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: And when we cultivate that so that neural linguistic programming

1225
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: allows us to do that without without all the resistance

1226
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: of the mind. Wow.

1227
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, questioning and inquisitive. It is being asking questions over

1228
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 3: and over again.

1229
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: Facing embedding and when and when you do that, when

1230
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: you get someone gets really good at it, then it's

1231
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: such dramatic results.

1232
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 3: And I wonder, you know, with all these therapies and

1233
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 3: the idea of self sabotage, I think you know, do

1234
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 3: you think that a lot of self sabotage is linked

1235
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: to fear or do you think that it You know,

1236
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 3: what's the programming that people can do to take themselves

1237
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: away from these self sabotaging behaviors that they actually end

1238
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 3: up physically manifesting to stop themselves from getting what they

1239
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: want in their life, whether it's in relationships, whether it's

1240
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 3: in the work that they do. How do they become

1241
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 3: aware of that being actually self sabotage not protection.

1242
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: That's that's an awesome question. With self sabotage, there's always

1243
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: a secondary gain, right, So we have to find out what.

1244
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 4: The gain is. Right.

1245
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: The reason why I'm sabotaging is one hundred percent of

1246
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: our subconscious mind wants to protect and serve, so all

1247
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: it's doing is protecting us from some perceived danger, and

1248
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: it does that by fear or self sabotage. So what's

1249
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: the secondary gain? If I'm self sabotaging myself every time

1250
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: I fall in love in that relationship, then the secondary

1251
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: gain could be that I get to stay alone and

1252
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: that is perceived as safe, right, right, So if I

1253
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: want to change, that goes back to the homeostasis. I

1254
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: get to raise my level of safety and worthiness so

1255
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: that when I get to someone who meets and sees

1256
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: me right, I can be comfortable and allow that.

1257
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 3: Yes, we talked, touched on relationships, and one thing I

1258
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: wanted to ask you about was, you know, I think

1259
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 3: a lot of women. I don't know whether men do

1260
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 3: this too, but a lot of my friends fall in

1261
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 3: love with this idea of someone versus the reality of

1262
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: who they are, and they can really convince themselves that

1263
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: this person is this ideological version of who this who

1264
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: they want them to be, versus the reality of who

1265
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 3: they are. What's a piece of advice that you would

1266
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: give to women who fall in love with the idea

1267
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 3: of someone and ignore a lot of the kind of

1268
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 3: red flags or the potential, the potential, yes, the potential

1269
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 3: of someone.

1270
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: Fantasy of someone when they actually when I change them

1271
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: and they cherish me, I would say, mindfulness is the

1272
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: antidote to them, say, really present and kind of what's

1273
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: happening now, I really see and recognize someone's actions. Yes,

1274
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: most of the time, we're always trying to manifest, right,

1275
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: So we're constantly looking for the future and trying to

1276
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: identify who we need to become and what we need. Yes,

1277
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: But in relationship, especially love dating relationships, it's so easy

1278
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: to fall in love with the idea of someone, and

1279
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: I would really you know, there's a real balance between

1280
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: doing that because of course you want to plan for

1281
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: the future. Of course you want to be with a

1282
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: partner where you both become better, But you have to

1283
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: stay very mindful to the present because that is the

1284
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: reality that's happening now.

1285
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I guess, and this is another way of observing.

1286
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: You have to be observant. You have to.

1287
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: Constantly be paying attention to really notice what's truly happening

1288
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 3: around you rather than your mind taking you away to places. Yeah,

1289
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 3: have you ever tried to manifest something really deeply in

1290
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 3: your life You've really wanted something did not happen, And

1291
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 3: what has that taught you about manifestation and also just life,

1292
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 3: because I think people get really you know, you believe

1293
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 3: that this manifestation is going to happen and it's going

1294
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 3: to be amazing in my life, and I'm doing everything,

1295
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: but it doesn't.

1296
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah a lot of times.

1297
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And we have to kind of give it

1298
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: up to the attachment that it's gonna if it's meant

1299
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: for us, so it will be for us, and that

1300
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: when we become attached to it has to happen this

1301
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: way and if not, it failed.

1302
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of things that.

1303
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going to do it, I'm going to

1304
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: do it, I feel it, I'm seeing it, I'm doing it,

1305
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: and it hasn't And then I see, well, what was

1306
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: the benefit of that? There's always a benefit of that.

1307
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a redirection. Maybe that manifestation infestation didn't happen

1308
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: because we needed to be redirected in a way, or

1309
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: maybe the timing wasn't right.

1310
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, whatever it was.

1311
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 3: So there's a thin line between manifestation being a place

1312
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 3: doing it from a place of control and doing it

1313
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 3: from a place of trying to create in your life,

1314
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 3: I guess, because you could always try and create and

1315
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 3: and the creation becomes a point of control. But I

1316
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: guess there's a balance between, like a beautiful dance between

1317
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 3: manifesting but also surrendering and.

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Speaker 1: Surrendering non attachment. I have a friend that she said,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to write a New York Times bestseller, and

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Speaker 1: she wrote a book. It didn't become a New York

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Speaker 1: Times bestseller, and she said, but the New York Times

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Speaker 1: called me and they had me come into their offices.

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Speaker 1: And what I did is I brought them through a

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Speaker 1: workshop all about my book. So did I manifest a

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Speaker 1: New York Times bestseller or not?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: So I thought that was amazing. Yeah, the way it shows.

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Speaker 3: Up exactly, Well, thank you so much. I feel like

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Speaker 3: you've answered so many beautiful questions, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: going to be so useful for this community because they

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Speaker 3: always sending me messages about things like this, So I

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Speaker 3: feel like I've got the perfect person on for it.

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Speaker 2: But thank you so much. And I deeply appreciate you

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Speaker 2: being here.

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Speaker 1: This is best conversation.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you,