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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the program, which is coming to

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Speaker 1: you from Orlando, site of the NFL Annual Meeting. Now.

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Speaker 1: I know this is called the Owners Meetings by many,

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Speaker 1: but it's the NFL Annual Meeting officially where coaches, GM's

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Speaker 1: owners get together vote on things like the kickoff rule

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Speaker 1: hasn't gone through yet, hip drop that is out, among

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Speaker 1: other rules being debated and discussed that we will get

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Speaker 1: to with many of our guests, including tonight's opening guest,

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Speaker 1: Dmiko Ryans. Also coming up, Tom Pellasero of NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into it with Alex Marvez of Sirius XMNFL

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Speaker 1: Radio a bit later on Chris Perkins from the South

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Speaker 1: Florida Sun Sentinel. As we'll go around the AFC East

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Speaker 1: a little bit here, because the Texans are playing the

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Speaker 1: AFC East among other divisions. But let's start it off

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Speaker 1: with the head coach of your Texans, Damiko Ryans, at

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Speaker 1: the AFC Coaches Breakfast this morning. Later on, I had

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Speaker 1: a chance to visit with him. Coach, how do you

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Speaker 1: like being here and hobnobbing with the other coaches and owners?

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Speaker 1: How's that for you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun getting getting a chance to see the

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Speaker 2: other coaches, it's everybody just relax. You don't have that

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Speaker 2: kind of competitive you know fire going after each other.

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Speaker 2: So it's good to see everybody relax and everybody really

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Speaker 2: you know, coming together to try to make the game better.

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Speaker 2: When you talk about rule changes and how we can

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Speaker 2: improve and grow our game, it's just it's really you know,

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Speaker 2: important for us to be a part of that and

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Speaker 2: understand the changes that we make is gonna affect this

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Speaker 2: game and hopefully we're improving the game for good.

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Speaker 1: So how do you tackle a guy in twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 2: Oh? The hip drop tackle?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think to start with the hip drop tackle.

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Speaker 2: It's why it's an issue is you know, you see guys,

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Speaker 2: some guys get significant injuries when the hip drop tackle occurs,

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Speaker 2: and you know you don't want defenders just really unweighting

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Speaker 2: themselves and dropping down on the guys. Ain't cool, one,

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Speaker 2: I don't think guys. For me, I've never taught the

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Speaker 2: hip drop tackle. Don't teach it. I never think a

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Speaker 2: defender is really trying to hurt the runner, and so

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Speaker 2: I think it's just inadvertently it's because of your trying

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Speaker 2: just aren't putting their body on body and making great

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Speaker 2: contact with runners. Guys are having their entire weight behind

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Speaker 2: the runner when they need to face a guy up

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Speaker 2: a little bit better. And if we as a defender,

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Speaker 2: if we can face the runner up and put more

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Speaker 2: body on body, more solid contact like shoulder through the sternum,

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Speaker 2: then and run your feet on contact. That's the biggest

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Speaker 2: thing where guys are not running and accelerating their feet

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Speaker 2: once they wrap up. You have to run your feet

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Speaker 2: on contact, and guys do that, and I think we

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Speaker 2: can get the hip drop out of the game.

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Speaker 1: So was hip drop a term when you played, because

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's a recent term. Maybe you were

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Speaker 2: Hip drop was never a term. I think it actually

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Speaker 2: started since San Francis. We were in the playoffs. We

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Speaker 2: were playing against Cowboys and Jimmy Ward, he's playing as

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Speaker 2: a nickel, and they checked them all down to Pollard

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Speaker 2: over the middle of the field and Jimmy breaks and

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Speaker 2: Pollard ends up unfortunately having a high ankle spring, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's where the hip drop tackle started. The

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Speaker 2: name of the hip drop started to show it because

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Speaker 2: Pollard who goes down with a significant injury, and so

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Speaker 2: I think that's where it gained the most attention.

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Speaker 1: After the season, one of the things you said was

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Speaker 1: you want to be so strong upfront defensively, and I

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Speaker 1: know we're not done yet. There's still some free agency,

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Speaker 1: there's the draft obviously. How do you feel about some

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Speaker 1: of the acquisitions you've made and how strong you are

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Speaker 1: right now at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at this moment, I feel really good about what

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Speaker 2: we were able to do up front. Starting with Danil.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a guy who's done it for a

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Speaker 2: while in this league, a double digit sack guy, guy

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Speaker 2: who is a Houstonian. Being able to bring him back

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Speaker 2: to Houston. He was excited about that piece, being able

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Speaker 2: to play in front of his family in his hometown.

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Speaker 2: Deniko Autry is a guy who just he's relentless. He

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Speaker 2: loves football all right, and you can see that on

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Speaker 2: the tape. Well respected all across the league. He's done

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Speaker 2: the time. So excited to add him and his versatility.

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Speaker 2: Deniko has played the end, he's also played interior defensive tackles,

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Speaker 2: Adding Mario Edwards, Tim Settle Foley, like, just added a

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Speaker 2: lot of depth to the defensive line because I truly

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Speaker 2: need eight guys who can really get after it. We

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Speaker 2: we've added, you know, some really good guys. We'll see,

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Speaker 2: you know what happens when the when the past come on.

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Speaker 1: How about having A Z's in that linebacking core coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's as young player I was able to add

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Speaker 2: when I was early in my coaching career, I was

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Speaker 2: able to coach a Z's. We got him as an

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Speaker 2: undrafted free agent out of San Francisco, and he's a

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Speaker 2: as a guy who he's gonna bring out standing leadership. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: to our to our locker room, not only to our defense,

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Speaker 1: He's a leader, he.

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Speaker 2: Is a intense player, he loves football, and I think

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Speaker 2: he can really help our young guys on defense. But

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Speaker 2: he's seeing what successful defenses look like, seeing how we

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Speaker 2: should operate, and he's gonna bring some energy to our

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Speaker 2: to our team for sure.

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Speaker 1: I won't ask you about everybody, but one more. Joe

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Speaker 1: Mixon on the offensive side, and such a great receiving

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Speaker 2: Right, that's the thing that said Joe apart right, being

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Speaker 2: passing game, right, I think you can if you can

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Speaker 2: check them ball down and you know for CJ having

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Speaker 2: another place where I think Joe's excelled.

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Speaker 1: In his career.

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Speaker 2: Think he's gonna, I mean open up, open up the

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Speaker 2: and I think with his style of play right and

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Speaker 2: how we want to get better running the football, I

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Speaker 2: think Joe helps us in that regard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned Dalton and one of the things you

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Speaker 1: told us that the combine about a month ago was

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Speaker 1: you want enough of your own guys coming back. How

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Speaker 1: important is that continuity that you have a year under

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Speaker 2: That's that's huge, right when you can you can have

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Speaker 2: guys come back for the second time around, when guys

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Speaker 2: are not trying to just learn to play book, guys

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Speaker 2: are actually trying to get better, right. I think when

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Speaker 2: you change schemes, everybody's trying to catch up and make

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Speaker 2: sure we're speaking the same language because it's new to everybody.

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Speaker 2: So all the players are You're kind of you're still

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Speaker 2: thinking and you can't play as fast just because what

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Speaker 2: was that turn?

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Speaker 1: What do I now?

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Speaker 2: Man, I've heard it before, I've done that technique before.

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Speaker 2: I know what the coach is asking me. Now, can

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Speaker 2: I probably improve my footwork? Can I improve my eye thiss?

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Speaker 2: Can I improve on those little things which I think

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Speaker 1: What about having the guys back in the buildings soon enough,

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Speaker 1: because off season conditioning just a few weeks away. You

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Speaker 1: must be so fired up to get players to coach again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like we just finished, right, Yeah, now

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Speaker 2: coming back a little more time. No, it'll be definitely

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Speaker 2: exciting to get the players back. The players bring the

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Speaker 2: energy in the buildings, so it'll be exciting, right to

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Speaker 2: get the guys back and to get to work as

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Speaker 2: our new twenty twenty four team. You know, I'm excited

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Speaker 2: for all those guys to start getting to know each other, right.

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Speaker 2: I think every year is a new year, so we

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Speaker 2: have to do a great job this year of learning

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Speaker 1: All Right, uniforms, we can't reveal things, but something got

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Speaker 1: out and cal McNair put on Reddit, Hey Nico tag,

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Speaker 1: here's what these white uniforms look like. Anyway, what is

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Speaker 1: your thought on that? In general? I know you just

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Speaker 1: want to play football, coach it. But what about that

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Speaker 1: great job?

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Speaker 2: Great job way to say today, But no, really, I

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Speaker 2: think you know, in the new age of ball, like

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Speaker 2: players are, they're definitely excited about the look. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think for us to get an updated look, I think

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Speaker 2: it's uh it's needed. You know, we've had our units

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Speaker 2: a little upgrade. And I think it's it's a nice,

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Speaker 2: nice spin on what we've had. I think the players

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Speaker 2: are really enjoying the fresh new look.

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Speaker 1: Coach, thanks a lot for joining us, Good luck, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Mark.

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Speaker 1: There's head coach Tomiko Ryans. As promised, Let's get right

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Speaker 1: into it. NFL Network news breaker Tom Pella sero, Tom,

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Speaker 1: First of all, before we get into NFL stuff, doing

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Speaker 1: what you do, how surgically attached are you to your phone?

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Speaker 1: Do you ever get how many feet away from it?

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Speaker 1: Ten feet? You start to get a little nervous. How

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Speaker 1: does all that work in your life? I'm joking around,

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Speaker 1: but I know that's got to be a serious thing

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Speaker 3: So I would say the revolutionary part was when I

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Speaker 3: got an Apple watch, you know, five years ago or so,

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Speaker 3: which have the haptics on it, so hypothetically you can

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Speaker 3: have the phone here and it's gonna hit your wrist yep.

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Speaker 3: And that was a product of my wife, constant Sam

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Speaker 3: put down your phone. Well, then when i'd you know,

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Speaker 3: put it over here, I'd have the ringer on so

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Speaker 3: just be bleep bleep bleep over and over with text

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Speaker 3: messages and Twitter alerts and so the Apple Watch. Really

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Speaker 3: that might have saved my marriage. I'm not gonna like it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's got to be a thing because you have

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Speaker 1: to have it, you have to always be plugged in.

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Speaker 1: You're holding it right now. What is your level of

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Speaker 1: anxiety around that Tom doing your job?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's what's going on. If there's something big

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Speaker 3: that's potentially coming, then you have a little bit higher

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Speaker 3: anxiety level. I think that that's fair to say. You know,

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Speaker 3: there were give you an example. So during free agency

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Speaker 3: when we're doing fourteen hours of Free Agency Frenzy on

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Speaker 3: NFL Network and there's so much going on. This was

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Speaker 3: the busiest Monday of all time, and I was pretty

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Speaker 3: But it was like midnight and I needed to get

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Speaker 1: Tom Pellasero with us on Texans Radio. Okay, these meetings,

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Speaker 1: Well, the insiders is a great show. I watch it myself.

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Speaker 1: Tom Pellisero chow I goes, how do you handle the draft?

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Speaker 3: Tom, I'll start looking at the draft when I get

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Speaker 3: just call people. You know, you know enough people, You

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Speaker 1: Tom one more for you. I know what you do

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Speaker 3: played into me doing what I do now. When you

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Speaker 3: when you make it your job though, and you're doing

434
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Speaker 3: it objectively, and even when you're a beat reporter. My

435
00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,560
Speaker 3: first job out of college was two thousand and three

436
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Speaker 3: working at KFE and Radio covering the Vikings, making eight

437
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 3: bucks an hour, twenty hours a week with no benefits.

438
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Speaker 3: And I shot a KFAM just saying that's that's how

439
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 3: lot of people people are there. Oh, Pa was there,

440
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,880
Speaker 3: and Pa was one of the many people who helped

441
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 3: give me a breakthrough my second year there. He hosted

442
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 3: a show called Vikings Uncensored every Monday. I think it

443
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 3: was Monday nights at a sports bar and he brought

444
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,920
Speaker 3: me in as the co host and I was twenty

445
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,160
Speaker 3: three years old and had no business. You know, Pa

446
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,119
Speaker 3: is probably younger then than I am now, which is

447
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,399
Speaker 3: a really scary thought, but you know, he was one

448
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 3: of many advocates that I had who kind of brought

449
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 3: me in. You know, and when you're when you do

450
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 3: it as a job, I think that you lose that

451
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,439
Speaker 3: ability to truly root. I still have, you know, everybody

452
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 3: from my in laws to obviously my dad and my uncles.

453
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 3: I got a lot of vikings texts from like they're

454
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Speaker 3: still very into it and so that that's the team

455
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 3: that I grew up with. But man, at this point,

456
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 3: it's just you know, you root for good stories, you

457
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 3: root for I think, you know the people that you

458
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,679
Speaker 3: like with in the league. I stay in touch with

459
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 3: so many different people, and you know those guys that

460
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 3: you grew up you're you know, grew up in the

461
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 3: business with who are quality controls When I was a

462
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 3: young beat reporter or there, they were players then and

463
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Speaker 3: now they're the coaches. You know, those are like the

464
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Speaker 3: cool stories and a lot of times they're playing against

465
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Speaker 3: each other That's just the nature of it, right, which

466
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Speaker 3: is why you can't root. You can just be happy

467
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Speaker 3: for the people who have good things happened to them,

468
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Speaker 3: and you want the you know, the good people to succeed.

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Speaker 1: That's great stuff, Tom, Thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: You got it our visit with Tom Peli Sero. Alex

471
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Speaker 1: Marvez from Serious XMNFL Radio. Nobody covers more information and

472
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 1: less time than Alex Marvez, who knows your Texans very

473
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Speaker 1: well among all the other NFL teams. So let's hear

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Speaker 1: from him next on Texans Radio. Keeping it going here

475
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: in Orlando, NFL Annual Meeting. Mark VanderMeer with you and

476
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: if you missed Amico Ryans or Tom Pellisero. This show

477
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Speaker 1: will be on podcasts soon enough. But right now, let's

478
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: get into it with Alex Marvez from Sirius x MNFL Radio.

479
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 1: Nobody knows more about this league than Alex. I really

480
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 1: feel that way. You're gonna get a ton of information

481
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Speaker 1: in the next several minutes. Check it out, Alex. Great

482
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: to see as always, we're in your home state. You

483
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: gotta feel good about that, yeah.

484
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Speaker 4: Not too bad about it. Nice. A couple hour drive

485
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 4: from Gainesville Florida to get down here to the magic

486
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 4: city of Orlando and a lot of business going on here.

487
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 4: But I got to tell you, you know, I'm looking forward

488
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 4: hopefully to my training. Came visit back to Houston.

489
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you.

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Speaker 4: Know, Mark, the past couple of years I've gone. Maybe

491
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 4: I was the bad luck charm. I don't know what

492
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 4: it was, but it appears that even I couldn't in

493
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 4: it for the twenty twenty three Houston Texas. What a

494
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 4: pleasant surprise, I know for you personally, it must have

495
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 4: been so much fun calling games for this team. I mean,

496
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 4: you know, a likable group and really and knowing too

497
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 4: the best is yet to come.

498
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, so much fun. CJ. Stroud, what a revelation. And

499
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Speaker 1: Demiko Ribbs, I knew that when he got hired it

500
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: was going to be so much better, But who knew

501
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 1: it was going to take that little amount of time

502
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: to get that much better. But as you know, Alex,

503
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: year to year league, right, you see it time and

504
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: time again. What does it take to stay in that

505
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: hunt in the playoffs? And look at Buffalo and teams

506
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: that just can't quite get over the hump, the Dolphins

507
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: or one of them as well, it's tough. Listen.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to disparage any of their general manager

509
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 4: in the league, but how does Nick Cassario not win

510
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Speaker 4: Executive of the Year in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: You're preaching to the choir unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, you know,

512
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 1: how does Demiko not win Coach of the Year. I

513
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: know that Stefanski did a great job, but.

514
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a tough one. And you know that's

515
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 4: also where I think sometimes voters there's that recency bias

516
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 4: that goes on. I can tell you, you know, the

517
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 4: last thing you see might be the most lasting in

518
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 4: price that you have. I mean, first we had Damar Hamlin,

519
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 4: you know, come back from death. That's a pretty good comeback, right,

520
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 4: comeback Player of the Year. And then you had Joe

521
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 4: Flacco and he didn't even play half a season. Yep,

522
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 4: in Cleveland, he's winning this award. U huh, Yeah, you

523
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And listen, no disparaging Joe Flacco here,

524
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 4: but you know, sometimes it's what's happening, or maybe your

525
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 4: mind is set on something in the brown story with

526
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: such an interesting story, a good story. And I'll be

527
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 4: candid with you had Houston taking care of business against Cleveland.

528
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Speaker 4: You know, in the regular season, maybe voters are looking

529
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 4: at this a little bit different. Yeah, but it didn't

530
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 4: go the Texans way. But man, they got hot, they

531
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Speaker 4: got going. But to me with Nick Cassario, when we're

532
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Speaker 4: talking about a team that was the second worst team

533
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Speaker 4: in the NFL in twenty and twenty two and to

534
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Speaker 4: make the quantum leap that it did to get it

535
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 4: right at the quarterback position, to Will Anderson trade, which

536
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 4: I was highly critical of because I couldn't understand, you know, hey,

537
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 4: the Texans they're not going to be good this year.

538
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 4: Why they're trading away this first round pick for a

539
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 4: pass rusher? Well, now I know why, right, And it

540
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 4: ends up being the number twenty three overall pick in

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Speaker 4: this year's draft, and you would have never gotten a

542
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 4: player of Will Anderson's you know ability, you know, with

543
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 4: that type of selection. So a brilliant move there. Dalton

544
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 4: Schultz to bingham Ball are a tight end, you know,

545
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 4: Devin Singletary. I mean, all these great one year contracts

546
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 4: that the team was able to build upon, and then

547
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 4: the drafts continue to help this Texans team. I mean,

548
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: you see what Tank Dell brought to the table and

549
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 4: you just wonder, you know, could the Texans have made

550
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 4: even more noise in the playoffs had Tank been available

551
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 4: to them. Unfortunately he wasn't. But Nico Collins coming into

552
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 4: his own That's a sign of good coaching when you

553
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 4: see players getting better. This defense responding to what Demiko

554
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 4: Ryan's put in, and I think going to be even

555
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 4: better next year with some of the acquisitions that they've made.

556
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 4: So man, I am bullish on this text lost team.

557
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 4: It's just it's fun, you know what I mean to

558
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 4: see this franchise rise from where it was because Mark

559
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 4: every year had come out for training camp and listen,

560
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 4: I went through David Cully, I went through Lovey Smith

561
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 4: and just you know, and Bill O'Brien and it's just

562
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 4: sometimes at the end, it was just you know, a

563
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 4: Bill's tenure. It was just it was hard going out

564
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 4: there and like trying to generate enthusiasm, like I loved

565
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 4: like when players bought, you know, they spoke so highly

566
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 4: of David cul God bless the man is a good man,

567
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 4: but difficult circumstances. Love you Smith spoke really highly of him.

568
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 4: I was drinking the Koulaid impact is on maybe this

569
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 4: Texans team could be one of the NFL's big surprises.

570
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 4: Unfortunately didn't work out that way. Davis Mills didn't take

571
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 4: the steps that they thought for a variety of different reasons.

572
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 4: So when I went out there to camp last year,

573
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 4: I was just really skeptical about what the twenty twenty

574
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 4: three Texans would look like.

575
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: But they are legit, well Texans fans listening can tell

576
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: you know your stuff, there's no question. Serious XMNFL Radio

577
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: Alex Marvez with US all Elite Wrestling. I'll get to

578
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: that in a moment as well. But the Texans last

579
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: to first in the division, and I think it's nineteen

580
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: out of twenty one years or something like that where

581
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: that has happened in this league. Any thoughts on who

582
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: was not that good last year who might be good

583
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: this year? The Jets obviously come to mind with Aaron Rodgers.

584
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: What about the Chargers with Jim Harbaugh, what are your

585
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: thoughts on that situation.

586
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the Jacksonville dag Wars. I mean, let's

587
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 4: be candid here. The second half of the season, they

588
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 4: were not good. They simply they could not get things

589
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 4: going for a variety of reasons. Had an interesting conversation

590
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 4: with Doug Peterson that you can listen to on a

591
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 4: serious XM app if so inclined, and you know how

592
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 4: he was explaining, we've got to do a better job

593
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 4: not only of coaching, but of coaching younger players. We

594
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 4: need to be able to get our rookies on the

595
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 4: field faster. We're not doing that well enough. So I

596
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 4: think it's going to be a very interesting year in

597
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 4: Jacksonville to continue to talk with Trevor Lawrence about a

598
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 4: potential contract extension. I don't know if he was handled

599
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 4: properly by Jaguars coaches, you know, the medical staff. That's

600
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 4: always a tricky deal and I'm going to shy away

601
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 4: from that one. But you know, Trevor when he didn't

602
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,719
Speaker 4: have a week of practice or even was out there

603
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 4: on a Friday, not so good on Sunday. And you know,

604
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 4: it's one of the reasons I'm gobsmacked at the Tennessee

605
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 4: Titans and paying Calvin Ridley, you know, twenty three million

606
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 4: dollars a year and the average on a four year contract.

607
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: Were they watching the same Calvin Ridley that I was

608
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 4: not being maybe in the right spot when he was

609
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 4: trying to connect Lawrence. Yeah, but I do think though

610
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 4: that there's talent in Jacksonville. If Trevor Lawrence truly is

611
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 4: a franchise quarterback and is able to stay healthy, then

612
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: I think that they're a team that could really rebound,

613
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 4: you know when we I think for the Chargers, that

614
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 4: roster is so be at so many different spots. I mean,

615
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 4: they really have a long way to go. I think

616
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh is a great coach. You got the franchise quarterback.

617
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 4: We'll see what it ends up looking like. I'm just

618
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: not so sure that you know how big a step

619
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 4: they're going to be able to take. It's such an

620
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 4: interesting division because remember two years ago, Russell Wilson comes

621
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: on board. Derek carr is with the Raiders and he's

622
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 4: trying to, you know, buy into the Josh McDaniels thing,

623
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 4: and you're thinking, man, this is a division where the

624
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: Chiefs really could be in some trouble. Yeah, right, Like

625
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 4: maybe one of these teams are going to catch him.

626
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 4: Mark Day, I'm looking at this right now. I mean,

627
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 4: this could be a cakewalk to a division title. And

628
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 4: it's tough to go to Kansas City and win. Just

629
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: ask the Miami Dolphins who are still thawing out from

630
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 4: their first round game. But of course this Chiefs team

631
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 4: a little different as well, going on the road to

632
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 4: win in the playoffs. But I think those teams, I mean,

633
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 4: the gents will be better. But I mean, I've said

634
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 4: this on air. I'm already looking ahead to twenty twenty

635
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 4: five for them, And I hate to be like that,

636
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: but don't you just get the feeling mark that, like,

637
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if Aaron Rodgers what he has to life?

638
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 4: Do they really have Super Bowl DNA? Last year, you

639
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 4: were just you know, you were thinking, man, this is

640
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 4: a team that really, you know, has a potential to

641
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: be good as long as they're not the Jets again,

642
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And then they jetted, you know,

643
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: first game four plays in in Aaron rodgers Ters's achilles

644
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 4: and they're heck in a hand basket at that point.

645
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 4: So you know, I just that's a weird team for

646
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 4: me to look at. I think Cincinnati, you know, the

647
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 4: whole key. Can can you just keep Joe Burrow like,

648
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 4: maybe don't practice him from the end of June or

649
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 4: when you break for the off season up until Week one,

650
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 4: because every year since his rookie campaign. He has come

651
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 4: into the season injured and what that has led to

652
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: a team that's had to play catch up all the time. Right,

653
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 4: But I do like some of the moves that they made.

654
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 4: I think that they're going to be a dangerous team.

655
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 4: And of course, the Pittsburgh Steelers fascinating. I talk them

656
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: with TJ. Watt the other day at the one on

657
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 4: one wards at Kansas City. He brought this up, not me.

658
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 4: He said he was embarrassed by the fact he has

659
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 4: never won a playoff game in his career. Embarrassed. You

660
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 4: got to go all the way back to twenty sixteen

661
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 4: before TJ was a member of the Steelers organization that

662
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 4: to have happened. That is wild that he would say that.

663
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: And he is hoping that Russell Wilson's able to help

664
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: elevate this team. Did you know they only have fourteen

665
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 4: million dollars in cap space allocated to their key offensive

666
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 4: players the still position. Guys, It's a very strange deal here.

667
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 4: So the Stellers can maybe continue to make some hey

668
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the football. The offensive line,

669
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 4: Omar Khan isn't afraid to make moves. They're another intriguing

670
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: team but you know what, the let's be candid here.

671
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 4: This AFC South one of the most fascinating divisions in

672
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 4: football because think about how radically it has changed, you know,

673
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: in one year, two years. Yeah, I mean now Tennessee

674
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 4: may have their franchise quarterback in will Levis. They brought

675
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: in a lot of players. I'm not necessarily buying all

676
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 4: the offseason moves. You know, we'll see how those expenditures go.

677
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 4: But you know, definitely attempts to make this team better.

678
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 4: You know, under Brian Callahan, their first year head coach.

679
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 4: Colts should have their franchise quarterback and Anthony Richardson and

680
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 4: there's a lot to build on there. We know that

681
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: Texans have their guy, and we know the Jags have

682
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: their guy. I think Jacksonville that window of opportunity they

683
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: had to really differentiate themselves from the AFC South. That

684
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: window was closed and if they're going to pull away now,

685
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 4: it's going to be a much tougher challenge moving ahead.

686
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: Alex Marnvez Sirius, XMNFL Radio and all Elite Wrestling as well. Colts.

687
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: You did bring them up and you were talking about

688
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: Flacco earlier. Flacco with the Colts It's intriguing because Richardson's

689
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: injury history. You think, well, maybe Flacco ends up on

690
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: the field. It worked out well with min Show. How

691
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: did Minshew? How do you think that would work with Flacco?

692
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: Well?

693
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: The thing we saw with Joe though, was the more

694
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: we saw Joe maybe not so much in the Houston

695
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 4: Texans were proof of that in round one. So but

696
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 4: in Joe's defense, I mean, he wasn't playing with a

697
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 4: team that had a running back like Jonathan Taylor because

698
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb, you know, was obviously out with that very

699
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 4: serious leg injury. Hopefully he's able to make it back.

700
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 4: But you know, Joe, when I talked to Shane Steichen

701
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: about this at the owner's meetings, you know, he was

702
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 4: telling me what he's excited about with Joe Flacco is

703
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: a guy in the quarterback room who's going to add

704
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 4: to the conversation. I mean, he's going to have opinions.

705
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: He's been there, he's done that, and it's not that

706
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 4: he has to take you know, you know Anthony Richardson

707
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: under his wing. He's not just like to remember the

708
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco Lamar Jackson dynamic and all the controversy that

709
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 4: sort of happened there when Ryan Tannehill said something about,

710
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 4: you know, not necessarily embracing being a teacher and all that.

711
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 4: But Joe and any quarterback doesn't have to be. You

712
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: just watch how Joe Flacco works, and you watch the

713
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 4: things that he's looking at, and you should be able

714
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: through osmosis to be able to pick up a lot

715
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: of the things that will make you a better quarterback.

716
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 4: So I like having Joe in that room with Anthony Richardson.

717
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: But I mean, listen, Anthony's going to have to adjust

718
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 4: his playing style a bit. He can't leave himself so

719
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 4: exposed to big hits. And you know, an interesting conversation

720
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: that I had with Robert Turbin, my Serious Sex MNFL

721
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 4: radio co host, about this. He said, take a look

722
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 4: at Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, and sometimes they struggle

723
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 4: in the playoffs. Why is that, Well, guess what, for

724
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: seventeen regular season games, sometimes sixteen, if you could set

725
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 4: out a game, they're taking a beating. They're getting hit

726
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 4: because they're exposing themselves. And guess what, cumulatively, by the

727
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 4: time you have your season start in September, when you

728
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 4: start getting into January football, these players may not be

729
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 4: playing at the same high level. And you look at

730
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 4: who the quarterbacks were in this year's conference championship games,

731
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 4: and with accepting Lamar Jackson, they're more pocket guys who

732
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 4: are able to avoid the big hits. So I think

733
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 4: for Anthony it's just part of his progression. Listen, I'm

734
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 4: a proud Florida Gator. And Mark Sarre I know you're

735
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 4: kines allegiance, but you will settle in the season opener

736
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 4: next year. But my point though is I saw him

737
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 4: start fourteen games in college and that was it, and

738
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: he came into the NFL. This was you know, brave

739
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: new world so to speak for Anthony, and you know,

740
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 4: but now with you know, getting you know, Michael Pittman

741
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: resigned to a long term contract having Jonathan Taylor there

742
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: and that controversy finished, you know, with you know, when

743
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: it came to his contract. I feel the culture a

744
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: good team, but I also feel like they're sort of

745
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: stuck in the middle class type thing. Like we'll see

746
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: if Anthony Richardson you know, helps them rise above that.

747
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 4: But I'm not putting the Colts like, you know, let

748
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 4: me just say this, if I have to place money

749
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: on a long shot super Bowl contender in the AFC.

750
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: I'm not putting the Ducats, you know, on the Colts.

751
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 4: You know, let me just say.

752
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: That Alex Marvez with a serious x MNFL radio at

753
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: all elite wrestling along the lines of playing well in playoffs,

754
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: being at your best. How surprised were you about the

755
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: Chiefs run and how did you feel during the regular

756
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: season when they were losing some games and you thought, oh,

757
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: the Raiders and really are they really going to be

758
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: that good when you get to the postseason?

759
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 4: Okay, Mark, you're old enough to have watched the A

760
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 4: team like me, right, George Papard, mister Tia showed that

761
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 4: deybuted after the Super Bowl, by the way back when

762
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 4: we were youngster in nineteen eighty so little NFL tie in, right,

763
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 4: And of course it was Hannibal who had the famous expression,

764
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 4: I love it when a plan comes together. Right now,

765
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: Andy Reid couldn't affordast this, but think about how fortuitous

766
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: everything was after the Christmas Day debacle against the Raiders.

767
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 4: And I'm going to get back to that at the

768
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 4: end of this conversation. But the next week you're playing

769
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Bengals. Initially one of the most anticipated games

770
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: of the regular season until Joe Burrow goes down with injury.

771
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 4: And then at that point you're facing Jake Browning at home,

772
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 4: you know, on New Year's Eve, and the Chiefs were

773
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: able to pull that out. Didn't play particularly well on offense,

774
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 4: a lot of Harrison bucker Field goals, but you win.

775
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 4: You're locked into the three seed. So the next week

776
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: is a bye week. Everyone's able to rest and catch

777
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: their breath. Then you play the Miami Dolphins in one

778
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 4: of the coldest games in NFL history. The Dolphins are

779
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 4: beat up. They're not a cold weather team. And you know,

780
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: after once the frostbite subsided, Kansas City wins that game.

781
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 4: By playing on the road, it helped this team refocus,

782
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 4: and you know what I mean. It was one of

783
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 4: these challenges to this team, not the big thing. They

784
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 4: beat Buffalo, but in that second round playoff game, the

785
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 4: Chiefs didn't beat themselves. You notice no fallse star penalties,

786
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: unlike that unfortunately the Texans against the Ravens, when this

787
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: was a team that had the yips, you know, with

788
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 4: that crowd noise, Kansas City handled it extremely well. Patrick

789
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: Mahomes wasn't sacked no drop passes. I mean, this was

790
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 4: a Chiefs team that played big time football, and they

791
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 4: had that DNA and they had been in the big moments,

792
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 4: and I think that paid dividends. Then you played the Ravens.

793
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 4: You scored enough early on, you know, and the Ravens

794
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 4: imploded in the second half on offense, and you know

795
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: the touchdown that wasn't right near the goal line by

796
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 4: Lageria Sneed and the Lamar interception, So you get to that.

797
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 4: I mean that that's a lot of things coming together.

798
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 4: But one thing I was able to to get from

799
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 4: Clark Hunt, the Chief's owner and CEO, et cetera. He

800
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 4: was saying that after that loss to the Raiders, he

801
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 4: went into the office with Andy Reid and they had

802
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 4: a heart to heart talk about the team, and Andy

803
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 4: went with a step by step plan about how he

804
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 4: was going to get things turned around. He had a

805
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 4: vision about this and they had. He knew he had

806
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: to make some personnel changes. And no one is saying it,

807
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: but Kadarius Tony. You notice he disappeared when he came

808
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 4: to the offensive side of the football. They weren't going

809
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 4: to put anything more on him. They were going to

810
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 4: recalibrate some things. And the one thing too that kept

811
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 4: getting stressed, and it was a theme in the chiefs

812
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 4: locker room unity. We cannot turn on each other. And

813
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 4: it would have been very easy for the defense to

814
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 4: get frustrated at what was going on on offense, even

815
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 4: though you know, Mahomes and company had a lot of success.

816
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 4: Been very easy for this defense, you know, to turn

817
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: on the offense or say, why aren't you guys doing

818
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: your job because the defense had played so well, you know,

819
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 4: really throw almost the entirety of the season. They stayed together,

820
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 4: they stayed the course. And again that's where I think

821
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 4: it's you know, for the Texans, it's a learning lesson

822
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 4: what took place last year. Listen, if the Texans were

823
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 4: one and done in the playoffs, still people are still

824
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: going to think it's a successful season. But instead you win,

825
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: you beat Cleveland the way you did, an incredible moment

826
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 4: at Energy Field, and then boom, you know, up in

827
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 4: you're getting that experience. So for one half, gave the

828
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens all that they could handle. Second half, things

829
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 4: didn't go the way that anyone would have liked. But

830
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: I just feel like that's the sort of thing that

831
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 4: can carry over next time we get that big game

832
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: setting and a team's on the ropes. Because this happened

833
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 4: to the Detroit Lions as well. Remember Detroit, you know,

834
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 4: and see in San Francisco up by seventeen and you know,

835
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 4: had the collapse. So in this case with Houston, I

836
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 4: just think this is something that this team can learn from,

837
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 4: is really going to help in the future.

838
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: Alex any thoughts on the rules conversations here at the

839
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: NFL meetings kickoff hip drop, that kind of thing, the

840
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: kickoff rule.

841
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: You know, as we speak right now, and this is

842
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 4: on a Monday afternoon and I'm on a plage, I'm

843
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 4: not sure this is airing. I mean, they're trying to

844
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 4: get this in before the draft. I thought that was

845
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 4: interesting because there was some thought that maybe they the

846
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 4: owners would table this rule for a further vote in

847
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: May for more review. But there were some coaches and

848
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 4: general managers who said, hey, I want to know how

849
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: this affects our draft, because if you're going to have

850
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 4: a returner who now actually plays more than a ceremonial

851
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: role of standing back there and having the ball fly

852
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 4: above his head, you know, you may want to invest

853
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 4: in a returner if you don't have one on your

854
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: team currently. So this is something that's going to change

855
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 4: the way the rosters are comprised. So we'll see how

856
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 4: that goes. I'm listening. I'm willing to give it a shot.

857
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 4: And you know what the NFL is trying to do

858
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 4: here is help field position to increase scoring. Used to

859
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 4: be that we average forty five points a game. Now

860
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 4: we're at forty three point five points per game. And

861
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 4: you know, while the league won't say what the real

862
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 4: reason is, which is a quarterback play is pretty dreadful,

863
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 4: and you know, guys are getting injured, yep, you know, NonStop.

864
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 4: That's really the big reason that the scoring is down.

865
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 4: But the point though, is that they're trying to find

866
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: ways to goost the offense a little bit and putting

867
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: this back on kickoffs rather than I mean twelve kickoffs

868
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 4: for touchbacks in the end zone in the Super Bowl, Yeah, twelve,

869
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 4: I mean terrible. As for the swivel tackle on hip drops, listen,

870
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: you know you and I were both around in the

871
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 4: NFL when when they say Rich McKay brought this up

872
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 4: in his news conference, how defensive coaches were cavetching about,

873
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, you know, how are we going to

874
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 4: teach you know, not going for the upper body area

875
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: when it came to tackling, and how do we teach this?

876
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 4: Guess what they learned. They adjusted And by the way,

877
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 4: those who do hit high still for including former Texan

878
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 4: safety Kareem Jackson, they pay a heavy price, like now,

879
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 4: they miss game checks and they're suspended. So they've gotten

880
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 4: that play largely out of the game. The swivel tackle,

881
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 4: which is what they're talking about, where a player grabs

882
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 4: someone from around the hip area, lifts uses that the

883
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 4: player the offensive player's body sort of as a lever

884
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: to give themselves leverage, and then come crashing down on

885
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 4: a player's legs. It should be taken out of the game.

886
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 4: It leads to a twenty to twenty five percent higher

887
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 4: injury rate. The league will try to to, you know,

888
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: go over this rule in terms of, you know, teach it,

889
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 4: explain it. I'm not sure if the officials will necessarily

890
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 4: get it right all the time, but I understand at

891
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 4: the heart of the game, it is trying to show

892
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: that football cares and is trying to be safe. And

893
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 4: one thing that the NFL touted during its news conferences

894
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 4: how high school participation is up six percent, you know,

895
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 4: compared to two recent years. So it's trending up, which

896
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 4: means in more parents are of the belief that football

897
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 4: is safer now and that all starts at the top

898
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: in the NFL. I really believe that's a big reason

899
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 4: because things that happened in the league and the pro

900
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 4: league trickle down to college, trick it down to high

901
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 4: school and should hopefully trickle down to youth leagues.

902
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: All right, Alex all elite wrestling, What can you update

903
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: us with? Are you coming back to Houston anytime?

904
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 4: So good question. At the moment, I have not seen

905
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 4: the updated calendar. I do not know, and we listen.

906
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 4: We always do the Texas two step at some point, right,

907
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 4: and I'd love to be back. We were actually in Edinburgh,

908
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: Texas not too long ago. Is that about an hour

909
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 4: outside of town if I'm not mistaken.

910
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: Right, sounds about right. I guess Fort Bend or something.

911
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 4: I think is what is that area?

912
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: Yeah?

913
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so you know, and we had a nice crowd.

914
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 4: This was back in October. This is where Sting announced

915
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 4: that he was going to be wrestling his final match,

916
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 4: ending a thirty eight year career, which he did, you know,

917
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 4: earlier this month in North Carolina and had you know,

918
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 4: sixteen thousand plus, so we couldn't pack any more people

919
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 4: in the arena. And but now we move on. You know,

920
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 4: we've got another show, AEW Dynasty coming up April twenty

921
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 4: first in Saint Louis. You know, we got all you know,

922
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 4: all in Is coming up in London once again. We've

923
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: got more than forty thousand tickets sold to Wembley Stadium

924
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 4: for August twenty fifth. I mean, it's just so exciting

925
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: to be around one of the greatest you know, promtional

926
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 4: professional wrestling company startups that there's ever been. The talent

927
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 4: when it comes to in ring work. It might be

928
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: the greatest roster ever assembled in terms of big names.

929
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: You just signed, you know, kazusko O Kata, one of

930
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 4: the biggest stars in Japanese history, Will Osprey from the

931
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 4: UK Mercedes Monet making her return to professional wrestling. I mean,

932
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 4: these are big time performers right that go with an

933
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 4: already stacked roster. So it's been a joy. If you

934
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 4: haven't checked out wrestling in a while, please give us

935
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 4: a shot TBS on Wednesday nights for AW Dynamite eight

936
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 4: to ten pm Eastern Time, seven and nine in the

937
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 4: Houston area. Rampage Friday Night's nine o'clock Central on TNT.

938
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 4: Also on TNT AW Collision, which is seven to nine

939
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 4: pm Central Time on Saturdays.

940
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: One of the few TV programs that still gets high

941
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: ratings along with the NFL.

942
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 4: Of course, that's we're pretty much in the industry it

943
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 4: but yeah, you know what, and no streaming deals yet

944
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 4: for trust me. We'll see what the future holds.

945
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: Alex, thanks love for joining us always.

946
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 4: Mark, thank you.

947
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: There's Alex Marvez from Serious XMNFL Radio. Now coming up,

948
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk AFC East and really NFL at Large

949
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: with Chris Perkins from the South Florida Sun Sentinel and

950
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: tomorrow you don't want to miss this. The mcnairs will

951
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: be on the show. They will lead off. Mike Reese

952
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: from ESPN also scheduled to appear, among others Jim Miller

953
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: from Serious XMNFL Radio as well. But next up, Chris Perkins.

954
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: Let's get into it here on Texans All Access, man

955
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: with a show. It's been already, We've had Demiko Ryans

956
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: Tom Pellasero, Alex Marvez, Beefy visit with him. Let's get

957
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: into it with South Florida Sun Sentinel writer Chris Perkins,

958
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: who has covered the Heat the Hurricanes, covers the Dolphins

959
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: for many many years, formerly at the Athletic as well.

960
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: Chris Perkins, Chris, tell me Miami, what's been the biggest

961
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: development this offseason for the Dolphins.

962
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 5: Boy, it's been the departures markets. It's the losing Christian

963
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 5: Wilkins at defensive tackle, losing Rob Hunt at right guard,

964
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 5: losing Jerome Baker at linebacker, Xavian Howard at cornerback. So

965
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: there have been some major losses. What I think is

966
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 5: the incoming talent has not surpassed the outgoing talent. And

967
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 5: that's an issue because your outgoing talent didn't even get

968
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 5: you a playoff victory. And the goal here with the

969
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 5: Dolphins is to win a Super Bowl. That's why they

970
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 5: have Tyreek Hill, Tron Armstead, Jalen Ramsey. But I think

971
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 5: they're getting further away from that goal this offseason because

972
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 5: of the talent they lost. To me, one thing that

973
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 5: they can do is use the existing talent differently. So

974
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 5: one thing their new defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, who came

975
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 5: in from Baltimore, said that he wants to use Jalen

976
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 5: Ramsey as a chess piece and have him shadow other

977
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 5: wide receivers. Vic Fangio was hesitant to do that. Using

978
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 5: personnel differently, get a power running back, get a number

979
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 5: three receiver, whether it's your slot receiver or a tight end.

980
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 5: That's using personnel differently. So that's what I think the

981
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 5: Dolphins have to do this year. The talent won't be

982
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 5: as great individually, but if you deploy that talent differently,

983
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 5: I think you can get a better result.

984
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: Chris Perkins from the South Florida Sun Sentinel joining us.

985
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: What's the relationship like between Tua and the fan base

986
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: right now?

987
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 5: It is Tua was a hero two years ago, one

988
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 5: year ago, an almost godlike presence. Now he's a little

989
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 5: more human. You know that he stayed healthy all season

990
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 5: last season for the first time I think in the

991
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 5: previous five years, going back to his last year at Alabama.

992
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 5: But I also think Tua is almost maxed out. You know,

993
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 5: he was a Pro Bowl starter last year, but I'm

994
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 5: not sure that Tua has that elite gift of being

995
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 5: able to make guys around him better. You know, you

996
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 5: can be a Pro Bowl level player, but to me,

997
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 5: kind of that next level is making guys around you better.

998
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that Tua is going to get to

999
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 5: that level. And that's no slam on Tua. That's just

1000
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 5: kind of the way it is. So that also goes

1001
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 5: along with me as using your personnel differently. I think

1002
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 5: you've got to get Tua some more help out there

1003
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 5: on the field offensively and defensively.

1004
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: Chris, from your perspective in South Florida, who's going to

1005
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: be better this year? A healthy Aaron Rodgers and the

1006
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: Jets or the Buffalo Bills.

1007
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 5: Oh boy, that is a good one. I'm gonna go

1008
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 5: with the Buffalo Bills because, look, Josh Allen is a magician. Now,

1009
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 5: he'll keep both teams in the game at the same time,

1010
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 5: but the guy is a magician. He can make those plays.

1011
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 5: And then going beyond Josh, I think Buffalo has a

1012
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 5: good team, and you know that's that's a that's a

1013
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 5: breaking news. Buffalo is good, but I don't know that

1014
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 5: they're Super Bowl good. But I think that they will

1015
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 5: be the best team in the AFC East. Maybe the

1016
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 5: Dolphins beat him for for the title the Jets, I

1017
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 5: think they still need so much. I want to see

1018
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 5: that offensive line. I want to see Aaron Rodgers first

1019
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 5: of all, how is he gonna look coming off that Achilles?

1020
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 5: And I want to see what their run game looks like.

1021
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 5: I want to see what the past game looks like.

1022
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 5: We didn't see Aaron Rodgers with the Jets last year,

1023
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 5: so a lot of this stuff is still unknown and

1024
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 5: how is it all gonna work together? So I'm gonna

1025
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 5: go with the known on that one, Mark, I'm going with.

1026
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Chris Perkins from the South Florida Sun Sentinel whether

1027
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: US on Texans Radio here at the NFL meetings. All right,

1028
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: you've covered a lot of things. You've actually done news,

1029
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: You've done the Miami Heat for a time, the Hurricanes

1030
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: glory days. That's where we met. So with the NFL,

1031
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: what strikes you as being one or two of the

1032
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: most important things and being consistently good? Because I know

1033
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: the Dolphins themselves, it's been real tough to get over

1034
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: that hump and be a successful playoff team now that

1035
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: they're winning again. But in general, what do you think, Chris.

1036
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 5: Man, I think it's two things, don't overstate the quarterback

1037
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 5: position too much. And what I mean by that is

1038
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 5: the quarterback obviously is the single most important position on

1039
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 5: the field, but quarterbacks have limitations. And so if your

1040
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 5: quarterback isn't the man, if you don't have Patrick Mahomes

1041
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 5: or Tom Brady, get this guy some help. And I

1042
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 5: think that's one of the things that coaches kind of

1043
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 5: falls short on. And I'm looking at Mike McDaniel, I

1044
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 5: mentioned get to us some help. I think that previously

1045
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 5: the Dolphins coaches Adam Gase and Joe Philman thought that

1046
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 5: they could work miracles with Ryan Tannehill, and it was like,

1047
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 5: you know, in Philman's case, I worked with Aaron Rodgers,

1048
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 5: and in Adam Gase's case, I worked with Peyton Manning

1049
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 5: back in Denver, and so it was like, I know

1050
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 5: the secrets, I can unlock the secrets, and it's like, yeah,

1051
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 5: you really can't. It's like Harret Rodgers didn't really need you,

1052
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 5: Joe Philman and Peyton Manning didn't really need you, Adam Gase.

1053
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 5: And so I think these coaches get caught up in

1054
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 5: I'm a quarterback miracle worker and I can transform this guy.

1055
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 5: I hope Mike McDaniel doesn't fall into with to get

1056
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 5: to some help. So I think one of the things

1057
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 5: is recognizing your shortcomings, as you know, if you don't

1058
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 5: have the guys as at quarterback, get this guy some help.

1059
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 5: And then I think the other thing is is really

1060
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 5: just knowing how to build a complete team. I like

1061
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 5: San Francisco because you have a complete team. Right, Rock Purty,

1062
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 5: you can say whatever you want to see a superstar

1063
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 5: is he not he's effective because he has help. Jalen

1064
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 5: Hurts he's effective because he has help. I don't think

1065
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts is a superstar. I don't think Dak Prescott

1066
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 5: is a superstar. They might be paid like it, but

1067
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 5: but these guys need help. So I think if you

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Speaker 5: can build a complete team, it's it's going to serve

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Speaker 5: you better. I think Baltimore is moving in that direction

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Speaker 5: right with all the rushing yards they have, all the

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Speaker 5: time they had that streak of one hundred one hundred

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Speaker 5: yard rushing games. You've got a two time MVPs quarterback,

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Speaker 5: but you play butt kicking defense and you got a

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Speaker 5: good run game, and so get these quarterbacks some help.

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Speaker 5: That's that to me is one of the huge things

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Speaker 5: build a complete team. So know your quarterbacks limitations and

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Speaker 5: build a complete team. To me, those are two big

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Speaker 5: things to sustainability in this league.

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Speaker 1: Hey, great to visit with you, Chris. All right, good

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Speaker 1: to see you again. There's Chris Perkins from the South

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Speaker 1: Florida Sun Sentinel. Tomorrow the mcnairs lead off this show,

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Speaker 1: among other guests coming up Area forty five. Do not

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Speaker 1: miss this show. Have a great night, Go Texans.