1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody welcomes. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 3: This is Bob Guiney and joining me today. Of course 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 3: my beautiful co host, Trista Cutter. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: I always say that. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 4: I'm good and I'm so excited. Wait what I missed it? Okay, sorry, 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 4: I love that you always say that, but may Ren Park. 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: But anyway, I just wanted I'm so excited to. 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 4: Welcome Gianna back to Almost Famous o GS we get 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 4: to have another chat with her. You've been our most 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 4: frequent guest. 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: Actually, I think so flattered. I know, I mean, well, 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: I feel like we've been trying to line this up 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: for some time because every time I do come on, 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: Bob is unavailable, or he's traveling the world when he's 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: heading to New York to film something so or he's 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: like going from hotel to cabs so he can't quite 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: school us in. So this is totally. 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: I'm glad to have you here, very glad to have you. 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: Now for people joining us. 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: Our first most recent episode with Deanna was the Mental Recap, 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: and Deanna and Desire were the guests of honor with 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: Charity for that one, So make sure you tune in 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: to hear about that, because that was pretty awesome. 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: But this one, Christ So. 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: We're getting a little We're getting a little twist. 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: He here, We're going a little twist here, aren't. We're 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: taking us a little different direction. Yeah, so has today Deanna. 29 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: Very yes questions are you ready? 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: No? 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 4: So mente all we were back behind behind the scenes, 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 4: you know, chatting with a lot of the executives, and 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 4: like you said in the episode about the mental all, 34 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 4: you were like pitching Milsy about doing a vow renewal 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 4: for me and Ryan for our twentieth and all these 36 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 4: different things. And I know that part of the pitching was, hey, 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: you know, I could be the next bachelorette. 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: Nude nudge cocktails. In my defense, I had had a 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: few cocktails in between all of our girl time backstage, Bob, 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: they were allowing us to have a few adult beverages, 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: so I was allowing us. Yeah, I was feeling no 42 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: pain as I was pitching my life story to everyone. 43 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 4: I mean I was doing the same thing with the 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: vour Nole. I was like and I pitched the pickleball 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 4: and they actually listened and I got to go do 46 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 4: a pickleball. 47 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: Date with Gary. 48 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 4: So anyway, the reason we wanted to chat today is 49 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 4: because we have it on good authority. We have a 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 4: source that has told us that you have had some 51 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 4: meetings with ABC and. 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: No, let me stop you here. I have not had 53 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: any meetings with anyone. I literally left set a couple 54 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: of weeks ago and I'm not heard from anyone since. Okay, we. 55 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: Have heard that they're taking it. 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: It is so funny, though you look at I was 57 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: partially joking because forty one, I have a very different 58 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: I have a career, like I can't just take eight 59 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: weeks off of board. I have a job. I have 60 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: to pay for rent. I've got to do it. Got 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: children that I need to care for and love and 62 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: raise into good humans, you know what I mean. But 63 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: there was a POT that was being pretty serious about 64 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: it because they brought back that Brad Womack. They brought 65 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: back Nick viol three times, you know what I mean. 66 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: So they do this a lot where they bring back 67 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: these men, but they've never done it with a woman before. 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: Now they brought Claire. They brought Claire back once, right, Yeah, Now, 69 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: I will say, no offense, Bob. But the success rate 70 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: on the COT a little bit better than the Bachelor 71 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: so I realize it is likely harder to bring the 72 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Bachelorette back because most of them are still married and 73 00:03:54,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: doing really well. Right, But I think it is the 74 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: thing that I don't quite understand. And you guys will 75 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: know this because you've been on the show before. They 76 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: have this built in fan base that they they really 77 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: don't utilize and tap into. Do you know what I mean? 78 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: They don't about a billion shows that run through my 79 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: mind where I'm like, they really could have something here, 80 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: Like why is there not like a Housewives of the 81 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: Bachelorette or or you know, the parent Trap of the Bachelorette. 82 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: Like there's a billion shows that I run through and 83 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: don't steal my ideas. I've pitched him a time or two. 84 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: I really think that there is this there's this entity 85 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: that they really should tap into. They did a really 86 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: great job with Bachelor Pad. They really did a good 87 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: job with Bachelor and Paradise. I enjoyed that, but I 88 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: don't want a paradise. I'm not your girl that needs 89 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: to be frolicking around in a tiny bikini. I'm forty 90 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: one and I'm past that, and I like my curves, 91 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: but I'm not trying to compete with those young girls. 92 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: I will never look the same after breastfeeding two children. 93 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 4: So yep, mine either, I wish is why I had 94 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 4: to fix. 95 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: You feel me? 96 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: Like there is this whole concept, you know, surrounding the 97 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: Bachelor franchise that they have done themselves a disservice that 98 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: they don't tap into. There really is a billion ideas 99 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: for spin off shows that they could just make a 100 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: lot of money off of to be honest. 101 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, especially with the strike going 102 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 4: on right now, Like there's so many options for reality 103 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: television where scripted is you know, not able to do anything. 104 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: So I totally agree with you. Now if it worked 105 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: out you just said, like I can't take eight weeks 106 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 4: away from my job. Is there is there a chance 107 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: that you would? 108 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: There always of me that will toy around with the 109 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: idea of ever doing You know, for the longest time, 110 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: I said I would never do it again, you know 111 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. But I when I came off of 112 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: The Bachelor with Brad, you know, I know I said 113 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: this in the previous episode, but like, why wasn't I 114 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: given therapy? Like I needed therapy after that? Because you 115 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: talk about like trauma on the most basic level, I 116 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: was rejected and abandoned by the person that I trusted 117 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,119 Speaker 1: most in that process on National Talent, Like I should 118 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: have been in therapy and they should have provided that 119 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: for me. Now, once I came off of the Bachelorette, 120 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: like I had a great well, it didn't make good 121 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: choices apparently, But even the breakup from that really did 122 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: a number on me because it wasn't that a relationship 123 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: just ended. And I'm pretty good at grieving those things 124 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: when they happened, but it's this guy ran my name 125 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: into the ground and went on television crying like he 126 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: didn't know that it was happening. But you know what 127 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not for me to take on. That 128 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: was his manipulative behavior that I allowed. But they're just 129 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: for a long time, I didn't want to ever go 130 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: back on the show. It was not always this really 131 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: great experience for me, Like I had this really painted 132 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: view of what my time on the Bachelorette was. But 133 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: I also look back at that girl and even I 134 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: was really strong back then, I'm a different human being now, 135 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: Like if anything that the last couple of years have 136 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: taught me is that I've always been really strong but 137 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm fucking resilient. I am resilient and not more now 138 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: than when I did when I was twenty six and 139 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: I was the bachelorette. That like who I am, and 140 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: I'll never let another person in my life take that 141 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: from me or make me feel less than or not worthy. 142 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: I've loved and accepted for who I truly am at 143 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: my core. Somebody out there is going to do that, 144 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I had a really wonderful 145 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 1: twelve years with Stephen, and we have two beautiful children. 146 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: But I don't see this as the end of my story. 147 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: It's not for sure. 148 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: The way. 149 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: I gotta tell you this, I can speak from experience 150 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: on this one for real. You know, get divorce worse 151 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: after being on the Bachelor, you know, became one these 152 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: things that was like I just felt like the biggest 153 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: There was a period where I was just like, I 154 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: must be just the biggest loser in the world and 155 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: I can't sing together run. Then you realize, now you're 156 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: just with the wrong person for who you are, right 157 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: and there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, now it's 158 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: just about you thinking about where you want to go 159 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: from here, which is you know, obviously your families. First, 160 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 3: we know that, but like you said, you're very different 161 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: from when you were twenty six, and what if you 162 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: were the bachel arette Like. 163 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: Let's let's just let's just kick this camera out a 164 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: little bit, you know. 165 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: Let's just say let's just talk about like you know, 166 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: because I think one of the things that I know 167 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: for sure is you'd be able to walk in there, 168 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: and from a format perspective, I'm sure you'd be in 169 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: the driver's seat. So like you know, heys, I've done that. 170 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm relatively attractive. 171 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 3: Come on, Bob, I'd say, I'd say more so, more 172 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 3: so than relatively. 173 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: I think you could walk in. 174 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: I know you're going to command you know, this is 175 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: a soare a gentleman? Like would you say to them? 176 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm this is I'm just putting it out there. 177 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: I want this age range of guys like this is. 178 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: You know, I'm willing to work within this ballpark. Or 179 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: I want to get to the Fantasy Seeks faster. Instead 180 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: of doing three, I want to do six. I'm just 181 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: hearing this long. 182 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 4: But but but can I add to that question? Because 183 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 4: when we were hanging out before we went out to Mentell, 184 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 4: all we were saying this. We were like, there needs 185 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 4: to be not a golden bachelor because they're like, you know, 186 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 4: in their seventies. But what did you call it? A 187 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 4: like mid life or what did we call it? 188 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: I said, there needs to be a midlife crisis bachelorette 189 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: who doesn't need anyone's money, who's not looking to get 190 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: married again. I don't want any more children. I'm just 191 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: a really great time. It sounds like really to a 192 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: four nightstand, but that's not what I'm looking for. 193 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, but would you would you if you 194 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: if you were just playing conto like hypotheticals here, if 195 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 4: you did the bachelorette? Would did you consider getting married again? 196 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: Ooh M? You know what, I don't think that I 197 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: am in the right headspace for that to be married 198 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: again again. Steve and I, you know, we separated a 199 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: year ago and we had a few rough years. Like Bob, 200 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: I realized, Tristan and I are super close. So everything 201 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: that I'm saying she has heard twice over. But we've 202 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: had a really we had a really difficult few years. 203 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: And I like what you said, Bob, And again I 204 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: appreciate that you have been where I am at currently 205 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: because I've done a lot of just soul searching and 206 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm still me and I'm finding me again, but I'm 207 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: a new met at the same time, meaning I don't 208 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: at all regret my time with Stephen, and I look 209 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: back to our wedding day and I still think that 210 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: like that was one of the best days of my 211 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: entire life. Like early on there were there was this 212 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: piece of that And you've seen it, stun Bob, you've 213 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: been around us. You've seen it too, that we loved 214 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: your children very much. 215 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, very much, very much. 216 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: We loved and respected each other enough to bring two 217 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: innocent human beings into this world to love and to 218 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: cherish and raise to be good humans hopefully so. But 219 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: I like what you said, Bob, that it doesn't mean 220 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: that you have to hate each other, but you can 221 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: be two people who are simply not compatible for each other. 222 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: And I will never ever. I didn't do it when 223 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: I was twenty six. I'm a nobs kind of girl, don't. 224 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: I don't deal with bullshit. I don't I have a 225 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: radar for it. I don't deal with liars. I don't 226 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: do well with betrayal, and I have a no bs 227 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: radar for it. I am a come as you are, 228 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: this is what you get kind of person and I 229 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: always was like that, but I feel that more now 230 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: than ever because I don't know if I will ever 231 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: get married again. I joke around to all of my 232 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: friends and say I never want to get married again 233 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: because I'll tell you what divorce is. It's awful. And Bob, 234 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: you know this is it is all. It is awful. 235 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: I have literally survived the most difficult few years of 236 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: my entire life, you know, and we're talking about abandonment 237 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: issues on an anxious attachment. I've learned a lot about 238 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: myself through thousands of dollars of therapy, but my whole 239 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: point was that I wanted to ride every wave of grief. 240 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: And if you've never seen the grief cycle, there's a 241 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: lot of waves, and you can write them multiple times 242 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: a day, and I have. I've written them until I 243 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: can't straight, and I've cried more tears than I have 244 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: ever felt. And you know, I'm really thankful for my 245 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: group of people who literally carried me on days that 246 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't carry myself. But I say that so that 247 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: everyone knows that I have come out of this, this 248 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: new woman. There is this new version of me and Bob, 249 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: because you have been through divorce, you understand this that 250 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: when it all started to happen, you keep all of 251 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: that stuff close to chess because I felt and I 252 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: don't know if you felt the same way, Bob, but 253 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: I felt so much shame surrounding and I felt like 254 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: such a failure that I wanted this marriage to work 255 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: so bad. I wanted Stephen to love me and choose me. 256 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: And it's not his fault that he can't. He's just 257 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: not the right person to do so. And I believe 258 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: that there has to be someone else out there that 259 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: will eventually be able to do that. But that means 260 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: that I get to come as myself in my hole 261 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: and I will never live in a place where like 262 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: my vulnerability is used against me and I am made 263 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: to feel less than or not worthy of someone's real love. 264 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: So so a long story short, Trista, I really don't 265 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: know if I ever have the desire to get married again, 266 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: because I I don't know that I need that piece 267 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: of paper for companionship. I hire companionship. And I'll tell 268 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: you what being single for a year and finding yourself 269 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: again it is some really you know there are some 270 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: lonely spaces, and that there's some really lonely spaces. You 271 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: have to get really comfortable in yourself and in your 272 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: pain and in your process and in your joy too. 273 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: I live on my own now, and I'm telling you 274 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: there are some nights I will drink two glasses of wine, 275 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: dance around naked in my living room and it is 276 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: so I love it. 277 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: You know what. 278 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: There's not a whole lot that you got to read 279 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: in between, but a lot of places where I'm finding 280 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: to just be joyful in me and be joyful in 281 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: my own space of who I am and what I 282 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: desire in the world. And so I would say what 283 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: I desire is to be truly and deeply loved by 284 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: someone like I like companionship. I feel a deep desire 285 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: to be genuinely accepted by a man and to be 286 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: appreciated and to have someone that is willing to walk 287 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: through the really hard stuff. I am a very imperfect 288 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: human being, and I have my things. I am a 289 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: very bold personality, and I am loud and I am kind, 290 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: but I'm also like I don't take any bullshit, and 291 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: I have I'm saying this is what I want, which 292 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: is why I don't date, because I don't want to 293 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: play the games. I'm like, oh, it's been an hour. 294 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: Can I text him back yet? Like I don't want 295 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: any of that. That's not time for that, you know why, 296 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: because I'm being alone. So yeah, I desire companionship and 297 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: I desire to be fully loved and holy for who 298 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: I am. But I don't know that I ever need 299 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: that sheet of paper ever again, because I am a 300 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: loyal human being, and if I choose to be with someone, 301 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: spend my life with someone, I am one hundred percent 302 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: committed in that way. So yeah, I don't want to 303 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: say never. Everybody keeps saying that to me, all my 304 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: dwarf friends. They're like, don't ever say never. You're totally 305 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: getting married again. You're young. Yeah, like maybe maybe, Well 306 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: I got when I got. 307 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: To I said the same thing. 308 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: I said, Yeah, maybe it's just the trauma, and it's trauma. 309 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm a little proud right now to say that 310 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm into another marriage, you know what I mean, because 311 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: I just you know, divorce is awful, trista, like splitting 312 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: up your things, sharing up your children, you know, I. 313 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 4: Mean, even even your family like your your closest friends, 314 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 4: the people that you hung out with, you know, friendships. 315 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: You lose a family I loved and still do to 316 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: this day, Stephen's family, and I still have a really 317 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: wonderful relationship with his little sister and her husband, and 318 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: my nephews and my mother in law, like that will 319 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: always be there and I love them deep to my core. 320 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: But there is this whole. It's not just separating from 321 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: one person in a marriage and also the idea of 322 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: what you thought the rest of your life was going 323 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: to be like, but there is also this separation of 324 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: this whole other people that you truly love. You lose friendships, 325 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: you lose, you lose family, you lose mother and father 326 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: in laws, you lose that closeness. It sucks not going 327 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: to family dinner Sunday night, Like I have to keep 328 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: myself on Sunday nights because we've done it for the 329 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: past eleven and a half years and to know I'm 330 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: not included anymore, Like sometimes that still stings totally. 331 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: And are the kids with him for the family dinners? 332 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: So you're always alone on something? No, not at all, No, no, no, no. 333 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 4: We have a parenting plan. 334 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: The kids go back and forth, and you know that 335 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: New Sundays were really hard. You know when Addison came 336 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: to me and said, like, why aren't you allowed to 337 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: come to family dinner anymore? Those are hard because you 338 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: guys my role and again, Steve and are trying to 339 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: be really wonderful co parents for the sake of our kids. 340 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: And I'm a product to y'all. My parents did not 341 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: do it with good guidelines. I'll promise you that. So 342 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: I am trying really hard every day to know that, Like, 343 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: my children are innocent in this, and what they need 344 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: to have at the end of the day is a 345 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: wonderful relationship with their father and a wonderful relationship with 346 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: their mother, and they are deserving of that, and I 347 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: want that for my kids. So we're pretty good. Steve 348 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: and I are pretty good about sharing our kids. And 349 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a flight attendant. I travel for work. 350 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: This is what I do. We're really good about working 351 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: that out and making sure we each get ample amount 352 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: of time with the kids. And you know, our end 353 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: goal is to come up on holidays and birthdays. We 354 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: would really like to like each other a decent amount 355 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: and of continue it's important. 356 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is. 357 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: I do want to say at Mental Hall when you 358 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 4: and watching back, you know, obviously we were there in person, 359 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 4: and then watching it back on television. I cringed both times. 360 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 4: So you mentioned, you know that you're I'm cringing because 361 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 4: of something I did, not because of something you said. 362 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: I was like, you're like, oh, what happened. I'm totally 363 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: not going to stick my foot in my mouth, tursta, 364 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: so please tell me. 365 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 4: No. No, I was like, oh, maybe I should specify anyway. 366 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 4: So you said, you know I am single, and literally 367 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 4: I watch it back because I was like, like, I 368 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: yelled so loud, and I was like, oh gosh, that 369 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 4: was really rude and disrespectful, because No, I didn't want 370 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 4: you to ever break up and have to go through 371 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 4: all this trauma. But I was kind of like in 372 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 4: that moment, we had been talking about it, you know, 373 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 4: getting you on you know, the Bachelorette and whatever, and 374 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: I was like, yes, let's get her man. If she 375 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 4: wants it's a man. I want her to have a man. 376 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 4: If she doesn't want to have a man, she doesn't 377 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 4: need a man. But I was like, I was trying 378 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: to be supportive in that moment, and you don't have. 379 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: To apologize for that. This is the whole point of 380 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: having really great friends, is that they're meant to cheer 381 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: you on every step of the way, and like that 382 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: makes me feel. And what wasn't shown, Bob, is that 383 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, again, we've told you a thousand times that 384 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: we hung out all day and talked, but we also 385 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: do a late night dinner just the three of us. 386 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: And I say this all the time that like, I mean, 387 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: I love all of the women, but I'm obviously closer 388 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: to you know, a few of the women because maybe 389 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: we're in the same life phase or or we just 390 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: get each other, you know what I mean. And I say, 391 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: all of my girlfriends were like, well, how was it? 392 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, the piece that I took away 393 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: and that I loved so much was getting to spend 394 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: so much time with Tristan Desiree, because they are two 395 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: of the women that I love so deeply and have 396 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: no problem saying that I have a genuine friendship with 397 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: the two of them. And they both just let me 398 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: speak so freely, you know, and things that I will 399 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: never say out loud or on a podcast for that matter, 400 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: but they just allowed me to speak so freely and 401 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: in a safe space and share my heart and my 402 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: struggles and what I've walked through in the last few years. 403 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: And there is just so much beauty in a friendship 404 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: like that. So I don't think you need to apologize, 405 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: trist I would hope nothing more than you would be 406 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: cheering me on every step of the way, you know. 407 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 4: But I'm like, oh gosh, I don't want people to 408 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 4: be like, Wow, she's really excited. 409 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: That she's single. Friend, go ahead, send them, send him 410 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: my way, go ahead. 411 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: I get that. 412 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 3: I mean you're you're probably want to look like you're like, oh, yeah, 413 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: she's the boris. 414 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: She loves Steven too, you know what I mean, Like, 415 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: I know, there's nothing bad to say about Steven. So 416 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: there's also that piece too, where you're like, you likely 417 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: don't want to look like you're insulting him in any way, 418 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: And I don't think you are not he would take 419 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: it that way. I just think that you're a great cheerleader, Trista, 420 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: and I'm thankful to have you in my corner. 421 00:20:46,320 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 4: Oh you're sweet. So I shared this story recently. There's 422 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 4: an organization called First Descent. It's a charity that we 423 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 4: helped support, and Ryan was really involved in them, like 424 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: ten years ago, and we went to their camp. So 425 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: they're like, they put on these adventure camps for young 426 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 4: adults with cancer and they give nicknames to every single 427 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 4: person who either works on at the camps or donates 428 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 4: or is part of the camps. And so the very 429 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 4: first time I went, they were like, okay, what's your nickname? 430 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 4: And it's me and you know, maybe a handful of 431 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 4: other people around me. And I was like, well, what's 432 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 4: another name for like a cheerleader, like a supporter, you 433 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 4: know whatever, And the lady asked me my friend was 434 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 4: like jockstrapped, And of course. 435 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: That's exactly what Trista wants to be known as around 436 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: remember on bat threat jock straps. Isn't that horrible? Yeah, 437 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't you at all. 438 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 3: When you said, you know, like a supporter, that went 439 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: through my head. I was like, Josha, I never thought 440 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: you would say that. 441 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: Become nice and close and snug and protected. I mean, 442 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: when you think about you just start describing those things. 443 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: That is Trista is giving giving you your space to 444 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: protected close. 445 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: Like a like a cradle. You provide a cradle of friendship. 446 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: It's just to go hard turn I know. 447 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 5: Anyway, Sorry, my mind also just went to a foul 448 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 5: place of where I'm like when they are getting down 449 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 5: at night, is I'm like my little jockstrap. 450 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: Oh. 451 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 3: Could you tell? 452 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: Only for far too long? 453 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you're proving that you need 454 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: to do that. That's that's right there. 455 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: Who's telling you these rumors? Because I'm apparently the last 456 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: to know. We have a big source. 457 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 4: We have a source source, we have a sources very 458 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 4: popular podcast. 459 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: We have people on the inside. 460 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 4: We got people, we got people, we got people, people 461 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 4: even have people. 462 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: I forget how well known and popular the two of 463 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: you are, you know, and to be sitting in your 464 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: feel it like I'm starting to sweat just being inside. 465 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: Deal here we got yeah. 466 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're real important. 467 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: They haven't had me near the show since two thousand 468 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: and three, so I don't think I'm that important at 469 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: least just as at least getting back in the ground, 470 00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: which is nice. 471 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, maybe we can change that stuff, because 472 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 4: I feel like what the executives have said is like 473 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: we do want to kind of get back like you 474 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 4: mentioned it, I think on the other episode is just 475 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 4: getting back to really the core of the show, and 476 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 4: I think that Gary and the Golden Bachelor are going 477 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 4: to do that. They're going to get back to the 478 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 4: no drama the you know, it's not Caddy between these women. 479 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 4: It like, at least that's what I feel like is 480 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: going to happen because they're in a place in their 481 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 4: life where they don't care. 482 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: Like they're like, I don't want to cause drama. 483 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 4: I just want to have fun, enjoy my life, and 484 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 4: maybe if I meet somebody that I fall in love with, awesome. 485 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 4: You know. 486 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a rare person though I didn't 487 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: like drama when I was on The Bachelorette any anyway, 488 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: Like I totally if girls were being Caddy, I was like, 489 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: I don't want any part of this. I'm going to 490 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: go like take a nap, like I don't. Yeah, never 491 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: live my life like that. 492 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: The season was that way too. We were we were 493 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: all buddies. 494 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 3: I mean that, which actually so that I fell mine 495 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 3: right after that, I'm like, hey, I don't want any 496 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 3: drama because I just got done with the show and 497 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 3: we had zero drama. 498 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: We really liked each other. 499 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, at the end of the day, it 500 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: comes down to the lead, I think, really putting that 501 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: out there, and I know, kiss like she loved that 502 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: we were all buddies, Like she really loved it. 503 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 4: It made me so happy because honestly, that's a big 504 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 4: part of what I wanted after the show, Like I 505 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 4: don't want to live with someone who likes drama. I 506 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 4: want to live with someone and spend my life with 507 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 4: someone and share it with someone who actually. 508 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: Likes for people, we are not looking to be like 509 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: traumatized forever. Yeah, yeah, you know what, So buddy, I 510 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: think that uh we say bring us back enough, you 511 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, because look at us, We 512 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: could do this for another four hours, and I think 513 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: the three of us are really great. We're doing really well. 514 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: There's this other piece of the show that, like you 515 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: sink the concept that they bring back the newest contestants 516 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: because they're young and fresh and they've got four hundred 517 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: thousand followers or whatever. That looks like, you know what 518 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean. And obviously the show is successful for a 519 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: reason because the pop ularity is still driven and like, 520 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: let's be honest, if they bring me back to speak 521 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: to someone and give them advice, it's not because I 522 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: am boosting ratings in this show, like half the time, 523 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: people don't know who I am anymore, you know, So 524 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: I get the concept, but I am always really thankful 525 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: that when they do bring us back, because come on, 526 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: there's this other selfish piece that still makes you feel 527 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: special well totally. 528 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 4: And what I do want to say to that is 529 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: that I you know, our seasons were I don't know 530 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 4: what the numbers are now, but the viewership back then 531 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 4: was in the double digit millions, you know, Like I 532 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 4: think our my engagement with Ryan was thirty one million 533 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 4: people were watching. Now I wonder if they even get 534 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: three and so there were like thirty one people watching 535 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 4: back then, and all of these people have aged twenty years, 536 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 4: and I feel like they're missing out on that demographic 537 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 4: of the like mid age, mid life, whatever you want 538 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 4: to call it, women, especially women and men who watch 539 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 4: the show, raising their kids whatever, And now their kids 540 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 4: are watching the show or their grand kids are watching 541 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 4: the show, and I feel like, why not bring back 542 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 4: the demographic of the people who like watched our season. 543 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 4: So I feel like, if you are the Bachelorette, Deanna, 544 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 4: if you decide to be the bachelorette and they officially 545 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 4: ask you then I feel like it will bring all 546 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 4: these people back who actually really really supported the show originally, 547 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 4: Like that. 548 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: What would be for every single episode to be my 549 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: og friends, Like don't bring back the twenty somethings, bring 550 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: back my Trista, bring back my Bob. Yeah, you know 551 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I'm gonna do it, Like, let's 552 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: do it, bring back all the old people who like 553 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: none of us have any bucks to give, you know 554 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: what I mean? Right, we're all in it for like 555 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: the genuine love aspect of the show, and that the 556 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: other piece is like we all genuinely like each other, 557 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: so better to let have back and again in this 558 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: stream scenario of if I was a bachelorette, to allow 559 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: people like us to come back and be like, listen, y'all, 560 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: this is how the show really is. This is how 561 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: we should really go. This is how far in depth 562 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: you should allow yourself. This is the piece that's really 563 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: beautiful of this show. And this is what you can 564 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: take away from it. You know what I mean, let's 565 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: step that. 566 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: Let's do with a relationship, and there's not that doesn't 567 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 2: need to be a tag on it, you know. 568 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 3: What I mean, It doesn't You can you can give 569 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: a Neil Lane promise ring or you know whatever it 570 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: is it. 571 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: Was it was a different person back in the day. Way, 572 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: that's just that I already do it, but you know, 573 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: I know who it is now. 574 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: So you can give that ring still as a symbol 575 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: of an ongoing relationship if you want to, and if not, let's. 576 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: See what it goes. Let's do real life together. So 577 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: maybe you guys, maybe the dates are not these over 578 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: the top, helicopter over volcanoes dates because those aren't real life. 579 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it's me taking them to the park and seeing 580 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: if they can clean up dog shit because I have 581 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: a right. Let's see how well they feel about that. 582 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: Or maybe it's like me taking them and they're driving 583 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: me to work and then I don't see them for 584 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: two weeks and see how they. 585 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: Sit in that are like watching Real Housewives marathon and 586 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: not talking. 587 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: Now, let's think more around Outlander. Let's make them sit 588 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: down and watch with me. Love me. Yeah, Claire and 589 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: Jamie Frasier vibes like in my next life. That's what 590 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: I want. Claire and Jamie, I know, mean, what. 591 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: Are you on? You're gonna ask me in the middle 592 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: of this? Oh sorry, sorry, so yeah, I just I'll 593 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: go to the other. That's that's love in real life. 594 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly other at the end of the day, 595 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: in our own element with like, I mean, I feel 596 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: really pretty today, but like this is not every day, 597 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: like let's see each other where. I haven't washed my 598 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: hair for four days and I don't have makeup on 599 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: in my mind lasma showing, and my pants are too 600 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: tight because I have a really big rear end. You know, 601 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: I look back at that bit I love really do. 602 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: I look back at that season four girl of that Bachelorette, 603 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: and I thought, physically I felt the most beautiful that 604 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: I ever had, but emotionally I wasn't quite me yet, 605 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I was welcome my way 606 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: to being me. But like now I look at myself 607 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: and I feel so deeply secure in who I am 608 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: as a person both outside and inside, and I'm I'm 609 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, that's being the realist that I've ever been. Like, 610 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: I am broken. I have been broken, not completely broken, 611 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: but I've put myself back together and I'm not one 612 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pounds anymore. I'm a grown ass woman 613 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: and I've nursed two children and I've burr of two babies. 614 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: This body is a warrior, you know what I mean. 615 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: Like me for that, Love me for that. That's real, 616 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: That's who I am. Love it great and gentlemen up. 617 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: So if I alone, you're gonna call your people, and 618 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: then you're gonna call me, and you're gonna tell me 619 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: all the insights that I don't know. I feel a 620 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: little in the dark, but I'm I am super flattered. 621 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: Dumb and dummer are like, So you're telling me there's a. 622 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 4: Chance, there's a chance, always a chance, there's. 623 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: Always I'm not gonna you're telling me there's a chance. 624 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: There is always a chance. I really was, Bob, I'm 625 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: not lying. I was had a few cocktails and I 626 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: was really joking when I was pitching my coming back 627 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: as the Bachelorette. And then the more I thought about it, 628 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: I was like, they'd be really stupid if they don't 629 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: jump on something like that. Doesn't have to be me, 630 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: but they really stupid, don't jump on that. And the 631 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: only other thing I was gonna say, and Trista you 632 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: probably can relate is when I look on my social media, 633 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: I am literally followed by like ninety eight percent women 634 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: and of the women who messaged me, you can imagine 635 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: because I was on fifteen years ago, they had been 636 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: watching the show and a lot of them will say 637 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: even today. Right, they posted yesterday that Tristan, Desiree and 638 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: I are on, and so many people wrote me and said, 639 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: I just love that. It's the three of you. I've 640 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: been well, Trista was on, and I love Trista, and 641 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: I love Desiree, and I love you, and I wish 642 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: the show would be that again. And there's this right, 643 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: That's what I was saying to that night. There is 644 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: this beautiful piece that like, you can take this and 645 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: you can bring it back to where it started to 646 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: what it was when it was really good. You really 647 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: can do that. 648 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 3: It can so. 649 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too. I will love it. I'll just 650 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: email some people as soon as I hang ups posted I'm. 651 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 5: Okay. 652 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: When the announcement is made, they've got to have me 653 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: back on because it would make no sense to have 654 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: me on any other podcast. Then that's right, especially if 655 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: I've been here so much and listen, we're OG's for 656 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: a reason. It has to be released here, don't you 657 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: think that's right? 658 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: I do. I love it. 659 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: There's a chance. 660 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 4: All right, Danna, thank you again for coming on again 661 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 4: and letting us kind of talk hypothetically and in dreamland. 662 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 4: And who knows, maybe dreamland will come true. 663 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: A man out there who can handle this strong, independent woman. 664 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: Maybe I know there is. I love you, guys, thanks 665 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: so much for having me. 666 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: Love you. 667 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: Just to call me as soon as you hang up. 668 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: I will. 669 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: Guys, she is so awesome. 670 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us for almost famous ogs. I love 671 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 4: talking to her. I you know, like she said, she is, 672 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 4: you know, such a close friend, and it's heartbreaking what 673 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 4: she went through, just you know, like anybody else, and 674 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 4: going through divorce when you are, when you are truly 675 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 4: in love, it's it's heartbreaking. And so I was asking 676 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 4: her about Sunday nights if she was alone on Sunday 677 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 4: nights because I want to like put a reminder in 678 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 4: my phone to just text her or say you know, 679 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about you. But anyway, So I love having Deanna, 680 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 4: And who knows, maybe it'll come to fruition. 681 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 3: I hope it does. 682 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: I'm so fire about it. I think it'd be the 683 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 2: greatest thing ever. 684 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: I agree. 685 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 4: I would love to see it. I I wonder if 686 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 4: she would actually be able to make it work. But 687 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 4: maybe they can. Maybe they can you know, do it 688 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 4: in installments or something so that she can actually you know, 689 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 4: do a couple of weeks and then be with the 690 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 4: kids for kids for a week. 691 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: And that you know, who knows. 692 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, anyway, it was great to chat as always. 693 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: Yes me, thank you for joining us, everybody. We appreciate it. 694 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: I'm slapper back together again. We had a couple of weeks. 695 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 3: Are we're doing the show, but you know, not together us. 696 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 4: I was ever back on agreed, agreed, Love you, Bob, 697 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 4: thanks for doing and everybody and uh we'll talk to 698 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 4: you soon. 699 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: Bye bye 700 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 4: M