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Speaker 3: Cowboys are entering into a pivotal game on Sunday at Landover, Maryland,
Speaker 3: in the worst stadium in the National Football.
Speaker 2: League, Dallas terrible. You have to go going still, start
Speaker 2: balling down.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting the press box and it's raining, and it's raining.
Speaker 3: All my papers on, no, no, and then they so.
Speaker 3: Then Tony Wiley, who started off here as a PR intern,
Speaker 3: eventually worked up there full time. He was the main
Speaker 3: PR guy. Tony was in charge of the food and
Speaker 3: when Tony left they gave the media the finger with
Speaker 3: the food. I was like that, that hot dog is
Speaker 3: not that doesn't look right. I started bringing my own
Speaker 3: food to the game, like, not doing it, not touching it.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm glad you only have to go
Speaker 4: to l A in Vegas and Miami. I'm glad you
Speaker 4: only get the best place fining things. Tough job to court,
Speaker 4: George W.
Speaker 2: Bush. I'm the decided. I look at the schedule. Yes, yes, me.
Speaker 2: When I saw Buffalo in December, yeah, I won't be
Speaker 2: doing that.
Speaker 3: That's not the one I don't. I don't go to
Speaker 3: Philly anymore. And I don't go to I don't go
Speaker 3: to DC.
Speaker 2: That stadium was bad in twenty ten when we went,
Speaker 2: yeah there, when you saw.
Speaker 3: The thing almost fell on Jen Hurts that time. No,
Speaker 3: they truly do not. Dan Snyder did not care. So no, no,
Speaker 3: I won't be there for that one now. Cowboys thirteen
Speaker 3: point favorite. Heck with your thoughts on Ron Rivera stating
Speaker 3: that Sam Howe will be.
Speaker 2: The starting quarterback this week.
Speaker 4: You called it, man, you called it, yeah and something.
Speaker 4: He got a call upstairs. He went upstairs right quick,
Speaker 4: and he said, look, run, this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: We gonna pay. Yeah, you want this is what you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to do. There's a lot of.
Speaker 4: Guys I'm sure that are playing for in sentence, and
Speaker 4: around the NFL you've been seeing guys get bitched that
Speaker 4: are getting closer there in sentences. So hey, we're not
Speaker 4: gonna incentivize playing on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna do.
Speaker 4: We're gonna try and get out of here so we
Speaker 4: could get this number two pick. Obviously, ownership is hell
Speaker 4: been on getting it and not gonna using run rivera
Speaker 4: as the mouth piece to go out there.
Speaker 2: Who do we think they best shot at beating us?
Speaker 2: Is that quarterback? To me? I think they can run
Speaker 2: a little? You think how Yeah, I don't turn I
Speaker 2: think it is. I don't know. I don't have I
Speaker 2: don't have nothing to love go.
Speaker 4: Out here that you know what, I'm just tossing up
Speaker 4: like I remember, you know, the beginning of the game
Speaker 4: and the like I remember that, I remember that the
Speaker 4: people who have the potential, Like I'm not saying he's
Speaker 4: gonna do it, but you're gonna get a guy who's
Speaker 4: gonna go out there and play play reckless and just
Speaker 4: may had that chance to throw up something that I
Speaker 4: don't know he makes me a little bit not set,
Speaker 4: and it's for set for all the reasons that we
Speaker 4: got got in Arizona. I mean, not that he's as
Speaker 4: mobile as that guy, but still, I mean he's he
Speaker 4: has the arm, he still has the i Q. I
Speaker 4: just don't see that from Sam Howe. I remember that again.
Speaker 4: I remember the beginning of the season. We were watching
Speaker 4: Sam Howell and everybody was like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 4: Washington might be Okay, he's still the same guy.
Speaker 2: It could be really ugly or it could be really nice.
Speaker 3: That's the difference. He's not the same guy. The beating
Speaker 3: he's taking this year, it has warned him down. They've
Speaker 3: talked about it a whole lot within that the media
Speaker 3: just that hey man, this this guy seeing stuff now.
Speaker 3: They haven't protected him well. And it was a reason
Speaker 3: why Rivera went to Brissett and was going to start him,
Speaker 3: but then Brissette got hurt, so we keep coulting. But
Speaker 3: he benched him, and it just all the talk of
Speaker 3: what you thought he was and the way the season's
Speaker 3: gone and the man seeing stuff.
Speaker 2: He just wasn't the same.
Speaker 3: So the samehow we saw last year that beat the
Speaker 3: Cowboys and had some promise to start that's gone.
Speaker 2: They didn't beat that out there man. Twenty touchdowns, nineteen interceptions.
Speaker 4: Bring me samhow he used to beat that dog when
Speaker 4: the mail man walked.
Speaker 3: Baby was in the yard chase now saying how they
Speaker 3: beat down? So he looking at the mail man to
Speaker 3: lay that now they have they've not protected. It's bad.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's they you know, God blessed Eric beenemy,
Speaker 3: but they've thrown it way too much. That kids taking
Speaker 3: a beating. So and I let's go back to this.
Speaker 3: But they didn't win a game. They've not won a game.
Speaker 4: Week nine, and it's not I mean, I think at
Speaker 4: the beginning of the season, especially where they're being to
Speaker 4: me going over, you didn't think that the season would
Speaker 4: go like this for the Commanders. And it's unfortunate, especially
Speaker 4: for him as a coach, because you thought this was
Speaker 4: a side step to then elevate and it's not working
Speaker 4: out that way. So if he doesn't get his opportunity
Speaker 4: after they I'm sure they're going to fire everybody. If
Speaker 4: he doesn't get his opportunity now win, when does that
Speaker 4: happen for him? And I think for as much as
Speaker 4: we dog, a lot of these teams in the nfcas
Speaker 4: because of the competition factor and it's the rivalry of it.
Speaker 4: The Commanders have been like a quarterback away from being
Speaker 4: a dominating team for years because we looked at their
Speaker 4: defense and the guys had up front, and then you
Speaker 4: bring in the Terry McLaurin and that wide receiver group
Speaker 4: and you're like, man, this is a good team. They
Speaker 4: just don't have nobody that can get their guys the
Speaker 4: ball and they just hadn't been able to figure that
Speaker 4: piece out yet. And now they're going to have to
Speaker 4: go through this whole cycle all over again. So I mean, hey,
Speaker 4: continue confusion to your commanders. Let's keep it rolling. I
Speaker 4: love it. Don't feel bad. Listen, RG three was there, Okay,
Speaker 4: r G three was there. They also they also they
Speaker 4: had a shot with Alex too, and then you know
Speaker 4: that that end up that ended up not going in
Speaker 4: their favor. So yeah, they've been searching. They've been searching.
Speaker 4: I know they said the beginning of the season they
Speaker 4: thought they may have had something, not not a not
Speaker 4: a not a game changing type of guy, but a
Speaker 4: guy who may have been serviceable. You know, hopefully he
Speaker 4: doesn't return to to what he was at the beginning
Speaker 4: of the season. But we do know Jacobe Brisaid can't
Speaker 4: play can't play ball, so hopefully we don't have to
Speaker 4: see him. But it's just it's just like I'm trying
Speaker 4: not to be heck in this situation where he was
Speaker 4: talking about and all that, I'm trying not to be that.
Speaker 4: But I just know, like usually when it's this, Like
Speaker 4: when it's this, that's when it gets tougher. It's tougher
Speaker 4: for you mentally when you start to see like, hey,
Speaker 4: all that is in front of me, all I have
Speaker 4: to do is do this, and then that's when stuff
Speaker 4: can start kind.
Speaker 5: Of falling apart for you as players with the Cowboys,
Speaker 5: they can't go and to this mindset and I'm sure
Speaker 5: the coaches will see this throughout the week in practice,
Speaker 5: but you can't go into it like it's a preseason game,
Speaker 5: like you know how cass Just the mindset is different
Speaker 5: going into it.
Speaker 2: Just you don't warm up as much.
Speaker 5: You know, you're going out there usually doing all your
Speaker 5: defensive back drills getting ready, you might skip a few
Speaker 5: of those.
Speaker 2: If it's preseason mode. You can't get into that. Versus
Speaker 2: the Commanders right here, we all understand.
Speaker 5: You know, they're mailing it, and they've been mailing it
Speaker 5: since they traded half of their defensive way, so we
Speaker 5: understand what their player's mindset is. But as a guy
Speaker 5: going out there, you just can't have that mindset to
Speaker 5: where we're going wrong on cakewalk these dudes, because even
Speaker 5: if you might, if you go out their halfstep and
Speaker 5: you may get hurt. So you got to go out
Speaker 5: there for Tilton and the coaches will have a good.
Speaker 6: Barometer or where the players are doing that that would
Speaker 6: tick me off if I saw, I mean for anybody,
Speaker 6: and I think who would that be an indictment on
Speaker 6: You have to be leadership because if you don't know
Speaker 6: what you're playing for, if you're gonna come out there
Speaker 6: and just roll your helping out there, oh we're gonna
Speaker 6: get this dub, and then you end up losing, that's
Speaker 6: the wrong way.
Speaker 4: I mean, we talk about the narratives throughout the season.
Speaker 4: If that's the case, if that's what we're talking about Monday,
Speaker 4: Cowboys lose in DC, and now that instead of having
Speaker 4: the two games at home or potentially having two games
Speaker 4: at home, you're now on the road playing. I mean,
Speaker 4: come on, man, that's see what happens. Yes, we have
Speaker 4: seen it, but for home field advantage. It's for the
Speaker 4: number two spot over being. I mean, come on now,
Speaker 4: that's that's crazy that happens.
Speaker 3: I just came from the locker room. Pose that question
Speaker 3: to Stephan Gilmore. Do you need to say anything as
Speaker 3: a veteran, guys already know that we understand, we know,
Speaker 3: so talk to him. I talked to Jake Ferguson, and
Speaker 3: I talked to Osa diggiye Zua, talk to Jaron Curse.
Speaker 3: They understand Tony Polarch.
Speaker 2: They get it. They know what's in front of them.
Speaker 3: And just in some ways the sure ability to just
Speaker 3: see it through that you were chasing Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Now here you are with the ability to get it done. Respect.
Speaker 3: And I asked JK about these the receiving courts, like, look,
Speaker 3: this is a good receiving court.
Speaker 2: We think these three guys are you know.
Speaker 3: That they're there's something to you know, don't play around
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 2: But they get it.
Speaker 3: So in my conversations right now, just coming out of
Speaker 3: the locker room before the show, they understood it.
Speaker 2: So I did have that. That was my whole kind
Speaker 2: of focus for my story. Five o'clock is you know, guys,
Speaker 2: get it? Does anything need to be said?
Speaker 3: Jake Ferguson talked about people locking up and leaders, you know,
Speaker 3: being focused this week.
Speaker 2: By the way, here's a stat for you.
Speaker 3: No Washington quarterback has thrown thirty touchdown passes since Sonny
Speaker 3: Jurgensen in nineteen sixty seven. Guys, this is a bad
Speaker 3: franchise out He talk about searching for a quarterback, but
Speaker 3: he ain't. They ain't seen one in a minute here
Speaker 3: thirty Think about it. I thought RG three might have
Speaker 3: had thirty. O Kirk Cousins one of them years.
Speaker 2: But had thrown thirty.
Speaker 3: And I think they said Cousins got closed like twenty seven.
Speaker 3: If Jordan Love ass thirty this year for Green Bay,
Speaker 3: that is bad.
Speaker 2: Bet, that's bad. Man. This is a cursed franchise. I've
Speaker 2: seen it, thinking like Doug Williams man, Yes that is horrible. Yes, yes, because.
Speaker 3: This is they still search so good luck. So yeah,
Speaker 3: you do need to get this number two picture. You
Speaker 3: need to get somebody who can find a way to
Speaker 3: throw you in this league. I mean, now you got
Speaker 3: to think about you got an extra.
Speaker 7: Game nineteen sixty seven or twelve games twelve fourteen games,
Speaker 7: except nobody could go anywhere.
Speaker 8: Man, I'm trying not to be you righty, No, no, man,
Speaker 8: I want to be relaxed and you know, cool and
Speaker 8: happy and like we're goun to go beat the beat
Speaker 8: the heck out the commanders, Like, I want to be
Speaker 8: that way.
Speaker 2: But the spirit, yeah, that half the getting all that.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: Now the other thing heard the locker room sa, hey, look,
Speaker 3: they're going to be physical, they're going to play us.
Speaker 2: So there was there was.
Speaker 3: Not that air of hey man, just you know Vandardbilt
Speaker 3: were about to come out here and the LSU come
Speaker 3: to play. It's not a they they understand that they're
Speaker 3: going to go come out here and play too. But
Speaker 3: they also know and realize the opportunity that they have
Speaker 3: and to get the home games and to play at
Speaker 3: at and T Stadium.
Speaker 2: So I just I just.
Speaker 3: Believe that at the end of sixty minutes, the Cowboys
Speaker 3: will leave landover Maryland with a win.
Speaker 2: And we also know it's going to be a home
Speaker 2: game of I met the last time.
Speaker 3: Last time I was up there, ubers kept kept pulling
Speaker 3: up folks bumping out with blue jerseys, blue and white jersey.
Speaker 3: You know, Philadelphia. You just don't roll out there in
Speaker 3: the Blue Jersey. It's it's not a smart thing to do.
Speaker 3: You come in something neutral. You know I did and
Speaker 3: didn't pull it out at.
Speaker 2: The ride, But not in DC. Man, they don't even get.
Speaker 3: So when you walk through, when you walk through the
Speaker 3: parking lot and you see the tale, you see you see.
Speaker 2: Washington fans partying with Cowboy fans.
Speaker 3: But it's it's a whole different body's like there's there's
Speaker 3: just no there's no respect anymore for the Burgundy and
Speaker 3: gold like it.
Speaker 2: Used to be. It's it's sad when we grew up. Man,
Speaker 2: this is right now. They just THEYD They just understand.
Speaker 2: They will beat them to submission.
Speaker 4: What are you talking about. It's over. They're trying to
Speaker 4: find their way back. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Fans?
Speaker 4: It is just like, okay, we know it's no look,
Speaker 4: no sense of breathing no air into them this weekend.
Speaker 2: So it's it's over it.
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and get your hurt, hey, go ahead
Speaker 4: and get your Bahamas reservations ready. Yeah, they ready, already've
Speaker 4: been ready for a few weeks. You said they ain't
Speaker 4: want against his win. Get that getting ready to get it.
Speaker 2: When the Cowboys lost that Philly that was the last time.
Speaker 4: They want booked already first class. They booked it early,
Speaker 4: so they they got a disco.
Speaker 3: Hey, let's let's get a h Let's get a break
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Speaker 2: Back to the players lounge. I don't have a read.
Speaker 3: It is louds on Wednesday heading into these season finale
Speaker 3: against the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2: Yeah mighty, Barry Church, Heck Maharis as Danny crayb new
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Speaker 3: All right, our confirmed starting quarterbacks for Week eighteen. Blame Gabbert,
Speaker 3: Jeff Driscoll, Carson Wentz, Nick Mullins, Trevor Simons, stick Tyrod Taylor,
Speaker 3: Sam Howe, Mason Rudolph and Jared Stidham.
Speaker 2: More to come, of course. Even though he was in
Speaker 2: I thought he was hunting somewhere. Eon McVeigh got him man.
Speaker 4: Right, So so it's green like, who is it? Green
Speaker 4: Bay fighting for spot? Buffalo fighting for US.
Speaker 2: Spot Buffalo Miami this weekend. Yeah, Tampa to.
Speaker 4: Tampa, Pittsburgh fighting for spot. Yeah Tampa, your super Bowl
Speaker 4: winning team fighting this weekend. Everybody playing back up the
Speaker 4: AFC South Jacksonville is nine and seven, Indianapolis is nine
Speaker 4: and seven, and Houston is not and seventh.
Speaker 5: Crazy, it's the winner of the Houston and Coast game, right,
Speaker 5: that gets it?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: It's uh, it's it's folks battling this week man. So
Speaker 3: it's wild because everybody just assumed that the AFC was
Speaker 3: going to be this way better conference because they have
Speaker 3: better quarterbacks and that's not been the case this week.
Speaker 3: But yes, you've got the l A Rams taking on
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. That game is in uh Levy Stadium.
Speaker 3: Run CMCs out this week, so they're arresting him at
Speaker 3: foot in foot think it was put so we'll see
Speaker 3: if Sam Donald goes.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you really want to put rock Party
Speaker 2: out there at risk of this? So none of them,
Speaker 2: do you? Out of them? Seattle is taking on Arizona.
Speaker 2: Seattle can get into right there. They got a chance to.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so right now, green Bay is the seventh seed.
Speaker 3: With green Bay, the Rams are the sixth seed.
Speaker 4: So some kind of way, Chris Bean was explaining to
Speaker 4: me earlier that we may end up if we were
Speaker 4: in the NFC's uh, that that first wild card game
Speaker 4: could be against the Los Angeles Rams instead of I
Speaker 4: would love it instead of Green Bay. Look, look, look,
Speaker 4: I would love it. That's why he don't want the
Speaker 4: two seeds. As he said, we rather play on the
Speaker 4: road against sacer Mayfield whoever wins the NFC South, versus
Speaker 4: playing at home against the l A Rams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd rather. I don't feel that I'd rather play whoever.
Speaker 2: We understand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, run game Tony Paula spoke and it was a
Speaker 3: good question from Todd Archer of ESPN, where he said,
Speaker 3: is there anything you can change or do differently in
Speaker 3: the run game here week eighteen or is it just
Speaker 3: what it is? And Tony's like, ain't nothing can change,
Speaker 3: just is what it is. And Tony admitted that the
Speaker 3: season hasn't gone the way he thought. So he spent
Speaker 3: a lot of time in prayer and talk to the family,
Speaker 3: and so it's not been the year that he wished
Speaker 3: he had been when they franchised and gave ten million
Speaker 3: dollars price tag and said go be the number one.
Speaker 2: Guy to kneal.
Speaker 4: Did the injury have something to do with it? Or
Speaker 4: is it just like is a Skip peek?
Speaker 3: I think it's one hundred what Skip said everything Skip
Speaker 3: said about the situation that Tony needs to be an
Speaker 3: a in a share time share situation terms of what
Speaker 3: he and Zeke had and they don't have that nothing
Speaker 3: against ric o'dowdell, but ric o'dalla is not the hammer
Speaker 3: that Zeke was.
Speaker 4: Well, how do we explain no explosives though, you know,
Speaker 4: like even if you are in a shared situation.
Speaker 3: I think part of it is the injury what you said,
Speaker 3: because he spoke about not you know, and it's one
Speaker 3: thing he covered up. I mean, say anything and gallup
Speaker 3: kind of the same way. Yeah, I wasn't really what
Speaker 3: I wasn't where I thought I would be, So took
Speaker 3: him a while to get there.
Speaker 2: Is he still there now? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think that's still something we won't totally get the
Speaker 3: truth until after season or you come out and say, yeah,
Speaker 3: here long I wasn't, that wasn't what it was, which
Speaker 3: to me would explain why we haven't seen the explosiveness.
Speaker 3: And that was another question was asked. You know, you're
Speaker 3: down to four yards and average last year at five anything.
Speaker 3: He played good soldier. He didn't want to come up
Speaker 3: and make excuses. But we have seen Tony Pollard for
Speaker 3: five years now.
Speaker 2: That's flash play. King.
Speaker 3: This is not the guy who as he left the
Speaker 3: forty nine ers game and you're saying, man, what it
Speaker 3: could have been if he had not gone out.
Speaker 2: He's not that guy. Hasn't been that guy.
Speaker 3: So the only good thing about his season for the
Speaker 3: Cowboys in their favors, is they could get him back
Speaker 3: at a very discounted price.
Speaker 5: I would love to see like a breakdown of how
Speaker 5: they were using them as far as running, because you know,
Speaker 5: I don't know for certain, but just looking at the
Speaker 5: games that he's played in, it seemed like they've been
Speaker 5: using them a lot as that that hammer, which to me,
Speaker 5: you know, doesn't make a lot of sense because we
Speaker 5: understand what he possesses as far as speed on the outside.
Speaker 5: So if we go back it was a break I
Speaker 5: wish there was a breakdown of it. But if you
Speaker 5: look at last year, I mean he was catching real
Speaker 5: watch on the outside screenplays were versus I think they
Speaker 5: were using his speed. Now, granted you did have Elliott
Speaker 5: in there, you know, going in there using that hammer
Speaker 5: on defenses and wearing them down to where Poler could
Speaker 5: get loose in there. But I mean, even this year,
Speaker 5: I feel like every time we look at the game
Speaker 5: is in between the tackles, in between the tackles, here
Speaker 5: goes a little maybe a stretch play here and there.
Speaker 5: Maybe they'll dump it that to him, but nothing really
Speaker 5: designed to use his explosiveness. And to me, that's I mean,
Speaker 5: that's what you're gonna get when you when you see
Speaker 5: him in the role he is now that in between
Speaker 5: the tackles, which is just not his game.
Speaker 2: It's just not you know, his guy. He's it's not
Speaker 2: that thunder No.
Speaker 4: I what I've seen in Tony Pollard which is different
Speaker 4: this year is the fact that he's not being used
Speaker 4: as a change of pace back and when you get
Speaker 4: an opportunity to hide behind, not high behind another guy,
Speaker 4: you let him take some of the brunt of those
Speaker 4: in between the tackle plays and then you come in
Speaker 4: at a whole nother pace than him.
Speaker 2: Even the running style was completely different.
Speaker 4: Between him and Zeke, Tony Poler still is sixty five
Speaker 4: yards away from being a thousand yard running back, all right.
Speaker 2: For whatever that's worth. It's not whatever that's worth, all right,
Speaker 2: positive heck, trying to sprinkle in that. But it didn't work,
Speaker 2: did it. Dah?
Speaker 4: Okay, So it's been but it's been bad. And that's
Speaker 4: the only thing that you could point to going into
Speaker 4: the playoffs that you are not really confident in and
Speaker 4: running game. How do you compensate for it? And I've
Speaker 4: been saying all along, this is a passing team. They
Speaker 4: compensate for it by a short yard pass. Okay, that's
Speaker 4: what makes up for it. By getting CD in the backfield,
Speaker 4: getting other guys involved to run some of those outside
Speaker 4: zone runs that you would used to see Tony Pollard running.
Speaker 4: So that's how they've affected the running game. You're gonna
Speaker 4: have to find ways to milk the clock. And I
Speaker 4: was a little critical of Mike McCarty at the end
Speaker 4: of the game, but that tripping penalty really was the
Speaker 4: reason why Detroit was even in the position to win
Speaker 4: the game at the end of the game, because other
Speaker 4: than that, you milk the clock and you're done. But
Speaker 4: you're gonna come up against some teams like the Rams,
Speaker 4: You're gonna come up against a Philly again, you may
Speaker 4: have to take that trip back up to Levi Stadium
Speaker 4: and play the forty nine ers. That's gonna have to
Speaker 4: be a component of your running game that defenses have
Speaker 4: to respect. Because even as you talk about him running
Speaker 4: in between the tackles, if he was just a one
Speaker 4: trick pony that just lists the defense know where he's
Speaker 4: going and what he's doing. So Mike McCarthy had to
Speaker 4: scheme up to use him. Yeah, I'm listening twelve to
Speaker 4: fifteen character where you gotta get them, but Sweter fifteen Carris,
Speaker 4: I think they need to be a little You have
Speaker 4: to find a way to get creative because, like I say,
Speaker 4: if you have to travel in the playoffs, your running
Speaker 4: game and your defense has like you have to have
Speaker 4: those to be able to travel. Now, Dak Prescott has
Speaker 4: been able, you know, to cover that up a little
Speaker 4: bit specifically at home, but once you get on the road,
Speaker 4: you see, once you don't have like, if you don't
Speaker 4: have a running game, you you essentially don't have a
Speaker 4: shot to really if you get ahead to hold the
Speaker 4: league or to find a way to crawl yourself back
Speaker 4: in the game if your passing game isn't working. So
Speaker 4: I think it's something that you really need to try
Speaker 4: to focus on. Albeit, like we're playing the Commanders, we
Speaker 4: all expect to win, but then you have things that
Speaker 4: you can work on going into the playoffs. I know
Speaker 4: it's the end of the season, but you still get
Speaker 4: that one more real game flying bullets as you you know,
Speaker 4: to figure out how you can get this running game
Speaker 4: going before you get into the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Sco around the table here. Obviously it's going to be
Speaker 3: a reduced price. Tony Park will not be making ten
Speaker 3: million dollars. Next, would you bring Tony Pollard back then?
Speaker 2: I mean I have to see the landscape of like
Speaker 2: half the price mm hmm, half the price of five mil. Yeah,
Speaker 2: who else on the rosters? Just Rico? Now I'm not
Speaker 2: doing this again. I'm not doing a Tony h Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you got to forget Rico. I'm just talking about Tony.
Speaker 3: You can go you go draft and go bring in
Speaker 3: some do whatever. I'm just saying Tony about Tony.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm in the market for a running back. Correct. No,
Speaker 2: I'm not bringing them back no, five mil, nah.
Speaker 5: Man, maybe two and a half two, especially if we're
Speaker 5: seeing you know, this is what's going to be the future.
Speaker 5: As far as him being a player like he needs
Speaker 5: to be a specialized player. Now, I'm not bringing him
Speaker 5: back for five. I would use that money elsewhere, you know,
Speaker 5: maybe in the linebacker room, maybe something like that.
Speaker 2: But yea, I'm not bringing them back.
Speaker 4: Under sixty for how many games sixty or something sixty
Speaker 4: yards we're talking about.
Speaker 2: I have five million dollars. I can't do it.
Speaker 4: They upset over there about Dalvin Cook or the money
Speaker 4: he made for it's two.
Speaker 3: So I asked the question because this is going to
Speaker 3: be a very big off season in terms of there's
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, you got Dak, you gotta
Speaker 3: take care of Ceedee Lamb, you gotta take care of
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to sit around here, get read about
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons. You got your starting center, who's up? Now
Speaker 3: You're starting running back is up. And so that's why
Speaker 3: I asked that question, what do you do there? And
Speaker 3: I look at Detroit who totally revamped their run game.
Speaker 3: They traded Swift to Philadelphia. They use their first round
Speaker 3: pick on Gibbs out of Alabama. Then they brought in
Speaker 3: David Montgomery. So you can go out and start over
Speaker 3: if you want to. But I think you got somewhere
Speaker 3: along the way ask Okay, what is it we want
Speaker 3: to do? And then how do you see Tony Pollard?
Speaker 3: Do you think Tony Pollard if you're combining him with
Speaker 3: someone else, maybe.
Speaker 2: You draft that's free agent? Why that's what could you do?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 2: Is this a Ronald Jones thing?
Speaker 4: Like? Because I'm assuming they expected Ronald Jones to be
Speaker 4: the hammer, the type of guy, and then Tony Pollard
Speaker 4: kind of be what he was last year, but we
Speaker 4: never really got a chance to see that. So I
Speaker 4: think they had the right kind of game plan in mind,
Speaker 4: but I don't think they were able to bring it
Speaker 4: to Fruition because we had the issue with Ronald wasn't
Speaker 4: able to get there. So in my mind, maybe they
Speaker 4: are seeing the Hey, we get a guy who we
Speaker 4: expected Ronald Jones to be, then maybe we bring Tony
Speaker 4: Poller back so he can get back into his old rold.
Speaker 4: So I see there's a possibility, But you have to
Speaker 4: have a guy who's going to be able to really
Speaker 4: specialize with running up in between the tackles, past blocking,
Speaker 4: being physical, being that tone center. So then you can
Speaker 4: have Tony Paula get in there and have those splash
Speaker 4: runs like he had last season.
Speaker 2: A lot of good college backs out there right now.
Speaker 3: There's I mean, so if they want to go into
Speaker 3: the draft, there's an ability to go out and find
Speaker 3: yourself some serious, serious help. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: you gonna need a veteran guy. I think Austin Eckler
Speaker 3: is going to be free as well.
Speaker 2: Out there, your boy, your boy sat Kaan Barkers. There's
Speaker 2: going to be there's going to do. That's one. There's
Speaker 2: going to be.
Speaker 3: I yeah, we got one, I mean, and so so
Speaker 3: and then his what's his price? He's been hurt a
Speaker 3: lot too, So this is going to be a really
Speaker 3: interesting situation of what they decide to do here. And oh,
Speaker 3: by the way, I go back to what you've been
Speaker 3: talking about for a number of years now, getting more
Speaker 3: help on the offensive line.
Speaker 2: This offensive line right now has definitely had.
Speaker 3: Issues on the road. They've they've got some issues and
Speaker 3: tyroing over left tackle. I don't think you can come
Speaker 3: back and try and do this one more time. Your center,
Speaker 3: Tyler biattish. How about you really willing to pay him?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you've and you've been dealing with a lot
Speaker 4: of ton of injuries over the last couple of years
Speaker 4: up front your offensive line, and I think that's what
Speaker 4: plagued the running game before. But look, going into the playoff,
Speaker 4: I want to see more Hunter Lifke as a lead blocker.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that he's a devastating blocker by a
Speaker 4: long shot, but I think that does help your play
Speaker 4: action when you do set him up as as your
Speaker 4: fullback as your lead blocker.
Speaker 2: Teams have to respect that.
Speaker 4: And so I'm just looking for ways to get Tony
Speaker 4: going through the playoffs. You know what we do in
Speaker 4: the future is cool. We're gonna have to draft the guy.
Speaker 4: You know, They're gonna bring a guy in, whether it's
Speaker 4: a bridge player or a veteran, whatever it is, they have
Speaker 4: to address the running game. Tony Poler. We're not giving
Speaker 4: him any grace at all with the injury.
Speaker 2: We're not. I's just say that, we're not. We're just
Speaker 2: saying you need all season.
Speaker 8: He ain't.
Speaker 4: He a.
Speaker 2: But it's true. It's true. They're gonna address it. Get
Speaker 2: a break in here.
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Speaker 3: leads the leak right now with thirty two touchdown passes.
Speaker 2: Not interceptions, but he interceptions. Now, he technically didn't say that.
Speaker 3: What he did say is that he would not they
Speaker 3: would not have ten tipped interceptions.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I like the other one sound better because
Speaker 2: he only got eight.
Speaker 3: But the national media got a hold of it. And
Speaker 3: so there was two things that the national media really
Speaker 3: took and ran with like crazy in the offseason, which
Speaker 3: we're taking out of context. One that one when he
Speaker 3: said ten tipped because they talked about really just the
Speaker 3: Noah Brown stuff in.
Speaker 2: The world got him, and then that guy man your
Speaker 2: man who.
Speaker 3: And then when Mike McCarthy was talking about Kellen Moore
Speaker 3: and talking about running the ball more and that was
Speaker 3: blown out of proportion because what he was talking about
Speaker 3: and running the ball more was after their first year together.
Speaker 3: He didn't mean it that last year they were together.
Speaker 3: And then that got blown out of proportion and people
Speaker 3: started throwing all these darts at Mike. So we in
Speaker 3: the media have we do a real good job of
Speaker 3: misrepresenting things that people say, not telling the exact truth there.
Speaker 3: But Dak Prescott right now leads the league with thirty
Speaker 3: two touchdown passes. Brock parties behind him with thirty one
Speaker 3: and number three Jordan Love Green Bay.
Speaker 2: Packers, which is awesome. So he turned around. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: there you go.
Speaker 3: But it would be something and this would be the
Speaker 3: first time since Starbach that a cowboy quarterback has led
Speaker 3: the league in touchdown passes.
Speaker 4: Really on the music, man, you know, it wasn't going
Speaker 4: for fifty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those numbers were astronomical. Only one of them left
Speaker 2: Aron He.
Speaker 3: But that's so for this to happen. And before the
Speaker 3: year I predicted Dak to go thirty three and nine,
Speaker 3: And there was a beat writer here who was giving.
Speaker 2: Me the business. Are you there, cut the bug? What
Speaker 2: are you talking about? Friend of yours? Yeah, good friend,
Speaker 2: our brother.
Speaker 4: Point that it was either.
Speaker 3: Way, although he pays to throw for thirty, Like what's
Speaker 3: the difference difference between thirty three and thirty it's.
Speaker 2: Really right there in the same range.
Speaker 3: But he has that opportunity and that would be that
Speaker 3: would be pretty cool for him.
Speaker 2: And I think it's.
Speaker 3: Pretty safe to say Dak Prescott will finish in the
Speaker 3: top five and the MVP.
Speaker 2: Voting, Oh yeah, top five. Yeah.
Speaker 4: He played, He's played his butt off man this season.
Speaker 4: With all the doubt coming into this season on Dak
Speaker 4: and the interceptions, he turned it around big time. And
Speaker 4: I think Mike McCarthy and him came up with a
Speaker 4: game plan that worked perfectly. Mid season, we were all
Speaker 4: asking the questions, do we trust the ball in deck's here?
Speaker 4: Are we throwing it too much? And by necessity you've
Speaker 4: seen that it's worked. The short passing game, the West
Speaker 4: Coast offense works to a t for Dak because he's
Speaker 4: able to read, diagnose easily, and he has the wide
Speaker 4: receivers now to understand and I think him and CDs
Speaker 4: are mergings together because I think we've seen something from
Speaker 4: CD that we hadn't seen in years past either. I mean,
Speaker 4: so him being able to lead the league in touchdowns
Speaker 4: and potentially CD because I believe he's like sixty yards
Speaker 4: away from Tarik Hill, which I mean he could end
Speaker 4: up being the lead leader in receptions as well, which
Speaker 4: I think together, man, that would be quite an accomplishment
Speaker 4: for them and this offense.
Speaker 2: At the end of the year, Mitchie Sherman won't think
Speaker 2: so about CD. Well.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think everybody came into the season with
Speaker 4: that doubt about CD because you've never seen him play.
Speaker 4: So CD at the beginning of the season, CD was
Speaker 4: upset too because he was, hey, man, I know what
Speaker 4: I can do. So the frustration that I'm showing you
Speaker 4: is because I know what type of player I am.
Speaker 4: And usually those type of players are right, you know.
Speaker 4: You see Jamartez and Jefferson all those guys who get
Speaker 4: frustrated like that and they say, okay, listen, I know
Speaker 4: what I can do, and then you see the next
Speaker 4: week they come out and then CD has been able
Speaker 4: to go from whatever they talked about in the by
Speaker 4: week or whatever they were able to catch up on
Speaker 4: and fix because it was a new offense coming to
Speaker 4: the season. That the switches that they that they flipped,
Speaker 4: they both have been nothing short of amazing since that,
Speaker 4: you know, one game here or there. But Cede Lamb
Speaker 4: plus two hundred, they were talking about one hundred catches
Speaker 4: in thirteen hundred yards. This man might go for seventeen
Speaker 4: or eighteen hundred yards. We're talking about Tyreek almost one
Speaker 4: for two thousand and ceed Lamb being hired than him.
Speaker 4: Dak Prescott protecting the ball over thirty touchdowns, may lead
Speaker 4: the league in touchdowns in the MVP race, may win
Speaker 4: the NFC East, may have too. Like it's a lot
Speaker 4: of positives that come out of this season, especially based
Speaker 4: on where we were at after we lost to Arizona.
Speaker 3: So McCarthy addressed this a little bit probably two three
Speaker 3: weeks ago, maybe a little bit further than that, but
Speaker 3: he spoke about going into that because that was Week five.
Speaker 2: Go back to this forty nine er game. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: caught that.
Speaker 3: They were still trying to in some ways understand how
Speaker 3: they were gonna run us offen. So they were still
Speaker 3: working through some bumps and that hey, we figured this out.
Speaker 3: And clearly Ceedee Lamb coming up and saying what he did,
Speaker 3: he made the changes. But if you go back and
Speaker 3: you think about Mike as a play caller, DeVante Adams,
Speaker 3: he had Jordan Nelson, he had Donald Drive, James Jones,
Speaker 3: Greg Jennings, this guy has usually had one of the
Speaker 3: receivers in the league who's been a top five wide
Speaker 3: receiver terms of production. And Ceedee Lamb is right there now.
Speaker 3: And I think it just in some ways letting it
Speaker 3: play out that Okay, if you just look at Mike's history,
Speaker 3: your quarterback is gonna be able to put up some
Speaker 3: numbers and he's going to have a receiver get some
Speaker 3: numbers running back now so much, but Ceee Lamb is
Speaker 3: that guy. And along with what he's doing there, which
Speaker 3: I kind of go back into the people right now
Speaker 3: who are who were questioning Mike McCarthy in terms of
Speaker 3: being a head coach. If you don't have Mike McCarthy
Speaker 3: here next year, you have to get a new head coach.
Speaker 2: You have to get yourself a new offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: And with Dak Prescott coming off a year which he
Speaker 3: will probably finish two three, four five in terms of
Speaker 3: being MVP. I don't see Jerry Jones making that kind
Speaker 3: of call. I don't see him doing that because that's
Speaker 3: a lot you'd have to change even if he flails
Speaker 3: out in the first round. No discussion. So I'm glad
Speaker 3: you said that because because my man Jason McIntyre Fox
Speaker 3: Sports and I've been talking about this. What's Mike's records
Speaker 3: in the playoffs? The head coach, I have no idea
Speaker 3: one and two? Here here, here, one and two. First year,
Speaker 3: they lost to San Francisco at home by six, and
Speaker 3: that those first two possessions offensive defense looked terrible, but
Speaker 3: they lost. Then the next year on the road wild
Speaker 3: card against Tom Brady and the Buccaneers, a team that
Speaker 3: beat him two years in a row to start the season,
Speaker 3: they beat them in the playoffs, handled them. Then they
Speaker 3: lost to San Francisco and a game the quarterback was
Speaker 3: not good. They lost by seven. So the premise that
Speaker 3: some people have is this guy is some loser out
Speaker 3: here getting spanked and rolled in the playoffs. It hasn't
Speaker 3: been the case. They did not look good in either
Speaker 3: San Francisco. Those were not good games for the Cowboy
Speaker 3: at all, but they didn't get It wasn't a forty
Speaker 3: four to six meeting. It wasn't it wasn't something that
Speaker 3: was drastically terrible where you would say, man, we got
Speaker 3: to get rid of this head coach.
Speaker 4: Well, I think I think the issue is when you
Speaker 4: go back and look at it, one in the game situations,
Speaker 4: and then two things that you are supposed to be
Speaker 4: taking care of during the season, i e. Penalties become
Speaker 4: the thing of like, Okay, if you continue to make
Speaker 4: it to the playoffs and then these same things keep
Speaker 4: rearing their ugly head, that's when you say, okay, this
Speaker 4: probably ain't gonna get fixed.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So if you go in there and all of a
Speaker 4: sudden you got fifteen penalties for two hundred yards, right,
Speaker 4: and you get knocked out in the first round, and
Speaker 4: some stupid or crazy in the game situation where you
Speaker 4: slide and you got twelve seconds left, you can't get
Speaker 4: it fit whatever that is. That type of stuff is
Speaker 4: where you say is this going is it able to
Speaker 4: be fixed or is it not? Because we don't want
Speaker 4: to continue having the same issue once you get in
Speaker 4: those type of big time situations. So I think that's
Speaker 4: where that comes from. I don't think Mike macarty should
Speaker 4: get fired, especially you got here and winning it. See'st
Speaker 4: uh Like, I don't. I don't think that is a thing.
Speaker 4: Maybe the top leading receiver, maybe the top quarterback in
Speaker 4: the league.
Speaker 2: Like I don't. I don't think that's a move that
Speaker 2: you make. But you do hope that you don't see.
Speaker 4: Those those same things year after year rid of his
Speaker 4: because at some point you say, I don't like, is
Speaker 4: it gonna get fixed or not?
Speaker 12: Yea?
Speaker 4: And for me, I think where you're talking about situational
Speaker 4: awareness and a guy like Mike McCarthy that's been coaching
Speaker 4: in this league so long, he has to understand that
Speaker 4: those are going to be the knocks on him. Even
Speaker 4: the penalties they're gonna associate the Obviously coaches say we
Speaker 4: don't coach penalties, but if it's happening to you repetitively
Speaker 4: over and over again, and you're leading the league in penalties,
Speaker 4: that's a knock on you. And that's why when you
Speaker 4: talked about them coming into this next game, if they're
Speaker 4: not inspired to play, that's on the coach, you know.
Speaker 4: But when when the Cowboys first hired Mike McCarthy, my
Speaker 4: feeling was, man, why are we hiring the guy that challenge?
Speaker 4: There is catch you know, I felt about it, but.
Speaker 2: Personally it was personal.
Speaker 4: That's stung. But since he's been here and as a coach,
Speaker 4: I just go back to Nolan as a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: He didn't stay the course. He's like, look, this ain't
Speaker 2: gonna work. Change it, all right. Any guy that he's
Speaker 2: balled onto his coaching staff that hadn't worked, he's changed it.
Speaker 2: Any player that hasn't played to his potential or found
Speaker 2: a way to make these guys work out.
Speaker 4: And if a guy just didn't work out, he washed
Speaker 4: his hands of it and kept going. That's the thing
Speaker 4: that I love about Mike McCarthy now as our coach
Speaker 4: is the fact that he's so flexible at making sure
Speaker 4: that this team is always ready. And the record speaks
Speaker 4: for herself. If it went on Sunday three twelve and
Speaker 4: five seasons like, that's big time. That's a big time
Speaker 4: record for a coach that for all intents and purposes, man,
Speaker 4: he was embarrassed by his firing in Green Bay, and
Speaker 4: he's I mean definitely restructured or revamped his career here
Speaker 4: and that is real.
Speaker 2: So the bunker.
Speaker 3: Let me ask this question. If he's not the head coach,
Speaker 3: who would you hide?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's a good one. I don't know
Speaker 2: where you would go, Jim Harbaugh. I know he hasn't
Speaker 2: been proven to win the big one. Like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? You got?
Speaker 4: I mean, we got dan Quinn here, same guy who
Speaker 4: we've been talking about changed the help change the culture.
Speaker 4: I don't want to take it none away from Mike.
Speaker 4: Help change the culture of the squad. Defense became like
Speaker 4: the star of the team for a while. Now you
Speaker 4: see it kind of going back to offense. But we
Speaker 4: still got big time players on defense. People still believe
Speaker 4: in dan Quinn, and I'm sure that people are going
Speaker 4: to try to hire him again this year, to be
Speaker 4: as soon as the playoffs. So like, I know, you
Speaker 4: want to kind of open it up to everybody, but
Speaker 4: you look inside the building and you say, hey, man,
Speaker 4: we got a guy who is highly sought after around
Speaker 4: the league that could possibly be that. But I'm saying
Speaker 4: that I would not fire Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2: I thing I always asked people like, where would you go?
Speaker 2: So dan Quinn?
Speaker 3: In my next question, dan Quinn, if you hired him,
Speaker 3: who's your offensive coordinator. Where do you go because he's
Speaker 3: a defensive guy and Atlanta he had a pretty good
Speaker 3: one that he Kyle so so okay, so him Bill Belichick.
Speaker 4: That's the big that's the biggest question, like if you
Speaker 4: hired somebody like that. Mike McCarthy's ability to work in
Speaker 4: the hierarchy of the Dallas Cowboys, what really what makes
Speaker 4: him a guy that you can't replace because any other
Speaker 4: coach with a bigger ego couldn't fit, You wouldn't be
Speaker 4: able to not the way things work here, Micha for
Speaker 4: only so long, four years, for only so long.
Speaker 3: That's a long time, but for only so long, and
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 4: But it's not like that didn't come you know, was
Speaker 4: burning It both ends towards the end. I'm saying, Mike McCarty,
Speaker 4: what he's what he's able to do is just stay
Speaker 4: in his lane. And how many guys could actually take
Speaker 4: this job and do that?
Speaker 3: You're right, but I just but but this is more
Speaker 3: for the people out there who are well McCarty. If
Speaker 3: he doesn't do that, they're ready to replace Mike. That's
Speaker 3: those are where I go with this, and I think
Speaker 3: you're right. It takes a special kind of It's it's
Speaker 3: a different kind of job and it's a different kind
Speaker 3: of mindset when you're here and Parcels spoke about it.
Speaker 3: Mike's lived with it. So yes, I think that's a
Speaker 3: part of working for the Joneses is definitely different. That's
Speaker 3: why I asked that question about.
Speaker 2: Who do you bring in? Because it's easy to say
Speaker 2: fire this guy. Tell me who you hire?
Speaker 4: Yeah, this this is a guy, a guy like Belichick
Speaker 4: wouldn't be able to come in. It just wouldn't. It
Speaker 4: wouldn't work. I mean, he shouldn't. Wouldn't be his friendly
Speaker 4: with the media, Change the defense, Yeah, for sure, you're
Speaker 4: gonna change all of that.
Speaker 2: So I just so that's why when people say these things.
Speaker 4: And he's a general manager, right yeah, Okay, Mike about
Speaker 4: to get over the hunk. This ain't.
Speaker 2: To get over because it's gonna be it's gonna be
Speaker 2: favorable matchups, Like I don't.
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be the path of the least
Speaker 4: resistance and it doesn't go to wag.
Speaker 2: You know what's gonna happen here? You know what? Everybody,
Speaker 2: that's what you know what.
Speaker 3: Let's let's just just say just through thee I was
Speaker 3: thinking about. He wins the two playoff games, the wild
Speaker 3: card game at home of the division game, and then
Speaker 3: goes to face let's say they face the forty nine
Speaker 3: and they lose that, then you're talking about a three
Speaker 3: and three playoff right now, he's good and and and
Speaker 3: let's say it's another close game enough to touch down
Speaker 3: our last game against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: You really want to get off.
Speaker 4: That talking about the Packers come up here, molly whop
Speaker 4: them in the first round.
Speaker 2: We all like and it does not go its way.
Speaker 2: Colds or not. You want you go to the playoffs
Speaker 2: and it's the Packers. Man, that's tough man. They're gonna
Speaker 2: be looking like James at home. Jason, he plays that.
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm talking more.
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