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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George

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Speaker 1: Nori with you along with Robert Davis, PhD, Back with us.

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Speaker 1: Internationally recognized where search scientist and author. One of his

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Speaker 1: books was The UFO Phenomenon. Tonight is the Unseen Forces.

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Speaker 1: He has taught, has been an administrator for the State

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Speaker 1: University of New York, has more than been doing that

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Speaker 1: for more than thirty years. Bob has spoken about his

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Speaker 1: research on effects of environmental and toxic stimuli on the

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Speaker 1: brain and sensory systems and venues that vary from national

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Speaker 1: and international scientific conferences. Has also written a number of

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Speaker 1: other books, including, as I mentioned, the UFO Phenomenon, Should

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Speaker 1: I Believe? Life After Death? And Analysis of the Evidence,

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Speaker 1: and his recent book Unseen Forces The Integration of Science

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Speaker 1: Reality in You serves as the basis for a documentary

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Speaker 1: called The Consciousness Connection, and he is now collaborating on

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Speaker 1: and with producer David Beattie of dream Time Entertainment. Robert,

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Speaker 1: you're keeping busy these days, too busy in retirement, Joyce.

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Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to speak with you again. How are

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Speaker 1: you I'm doing great, hope all as well with you

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Speaker 1: your family, and that COVID has not interrupted your life

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Speaker 1: at all. It's affected everybody unfortunately, but we're moving on

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Speaker 1: and thank you for doing what you do. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this latest work, Unseen Forces, or we

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Speaker 1: talk about consciousness, which is an incredible subject all by itself.

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Speaker 1: What is consciousness in your opinion, Robert, Well, nobody knows,

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Speaker 1: and those who believe they have an answer, I'm probably

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Speaker 1: quite egoic because we're talking about consciousness that exists everywhere.

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Speaker 1: It's a fabric of our universe. It's the subjective experience

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Speaker 1: of the inner cell. But what sciences are telling us

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Speaker 1: is that consciousness exists at level. But what it is

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Speaker 1: we don't know. But we see it at the subatomic level,

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Speaker 1: where the observation of subatomic particles can alter its ability

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Speaker 1: to behave as a particle or a wave. We see

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Speaker 1: it on the human to human level in the form

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Speaker 1: of esp near death experiences, out of body experiences. We

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Speaker 1: see it with healing with intent, psychokinesis human to machine

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Speaker 1: or physical system interaction. We see it even on the

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Speaker 1: global scale, the macroscopic level, with the global consonants project

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Speaker 1: conducted in Princeton University and at the cosmological level, mathematically

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Speaker 1: derived theoretical nature and people are many people are ascribing

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Speaker 1: to a virtual reality concept of consciousness. The point is

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Speaker 1: it's not integrated, although we do see it. It's subtle.

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Speaker 1: It's real and valid, but people don't look at the

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Speaker 1: research evidence. In order to do so, you have to

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Speaker 1: dig into the scientific literature and also talk to those

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Speaker 1: who experience these alterations of consciousness, which come in many

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Speaker 1: different forms, but they're life altering. From that moment forward,

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Speaker 1: their personal and philosophical values perspectives are changed, generally for

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Speaker 1: the better, because these individuals are sensing an aspect of consciousness,

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Speaker 1: consciousness or reality that's a different than this one, and

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Speaker 1: they're curious. The point is we see evidence in science,

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Speaker 1: we see evidence on the human level where people are

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Speaker 1: experiencing such profound, life altering events that are not explainable.

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Speaker 1: The medical scientific community cannot rationalize it using Newtonian principles

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Speaker 1: as the paradigm we're operating under, so we can't blame

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Speaker 1: our current paradigm. It's not designed to analyze consciousness. We

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Speaker 1: don't have the firm understanding the clear scientific explanation definition

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Speaker 1: of truly what that is. But we do see something

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Speaker 1: that does exist that people experience and it is real,

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Speaker 1: and that's what the documentary in part is based on. Yea,

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Speaker 1: and all those three statements you just said are very accurate.

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Speaker 1: Do we know at all if it's connected to the

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Speaker 1: there in the ether that's not part of the physicality. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's the critical question is consciousness. Does it arise from

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Speaker 1: energy that exists externally in the space in the universe.

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Speaker 1: Super treat certainly are connected, but we also have to

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Speaker 1: look at the brain as well. What is it about

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Speaker 1: the brain that causes these kinds of experiences and alterations

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Speaker 1: of perception. We don't fully understand that, but there are

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Speaker 1: many people who are looking at aspects of brain function,

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Speaker 1: analyzing certain quantum processes, processes even that exist at the

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Speaker 1: cellular level, trying to correlate that type of energy quantum process,

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Speaker 1: let's say, with other kinds of quantum theoretical processes that

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Speaker 1: of nature of reality. We're talking about, essentially the neuroscience

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Speaker 1: of usuality. Is there, for instance, a God spot in

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Speaker 1: it that in an age function? Is that kind of

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Speaker 1: define it. It's quite nebulous. Indeed, now we're talking about

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Speaker 1: torsion energy, possibly the biophoo emissions from brain cells that

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Speaker 1: can communicate externally. In your book Unseen Forces, you talk

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Speaker 1: about the peak experience. Explain what that is, Robert Well,

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Speaker 1: The peak experiences is a mystical event. It's been described

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Speaker 1: perceptual experience, a psychological or nor biological anomaly. What we're

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Speaker 1: And they come in many different forms. We mentioned some

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Speaker 1: the near death experience or the out of body experience.

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Speaker 1: Even interactions with unidentified era phenomena seems to cause this

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Speaker 1: type of let's say, philosophical and personal alteration and viewpoints.

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Speaker 1: They question reality after they sense that they have experienced

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Speaker 1: we consider mystical in nature that have been described in

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Speaker 1: religious texts and folk law. But these individuals have fierce contention.

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Speaker 1: They believe that there is a distinction between the mind

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Speaker 1: and the body or the self in reality, and it becomes,

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Speaker 1: shall we call it, a spiritually transformative experience. And in fact,

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Speaker 1: if you look at the data, there's about two hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand people in the United States alone who have a

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Speaker 1: transformative effects the sane individuals. Is it from the brain, however,

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Speaker 1: If they're remarkable. How many people have it? But here's

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Speaker 1: peak experience. It changes them. Talk about the peak experience again,

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Speaker 1: people are indeed experiencing an alternate reality, although they are

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Speaker 1: But in other words, UH, the deceased person can be

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Speaker 1: the explanation is. Well, one explanation is that it's real.

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Speaker 1: not saying that it is. He is the evidence. You

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, consciousness film dot info. Consciousness film dot info.

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Speaker 1: these leading experts like Diane Hennessy Powell, Evan Alexander, and

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Speaker 1: should talk with Raymond Moody too, have you. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: We're getting the leading experts, but also the experiences those

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Speaker 1: who have realized this alternate reality. Look who knows better

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Speaker 1: than them? You know. We have to, however, tie their experiences,

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Speaker 1: which is extraordinarily similar across many different types of peak experiences.

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Speaker 1: Tie that subjective experience with the physical objective evidence and

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Speaker 1: if you look at it carefully, wake up, wake up people.

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Speaker 1: So you tie consciousness in with the near death experience, well, well, indeed,

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Speaker 1: but you can't say for sure however that consciousness is.

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Speaker 1: But there is some aspect of an inner knowingness self

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Speaker 1: that that does seem to be beyond the fiscal and

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Speaker 1: we we people have this near death experience are indeed changed.

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Speaker 1: They become more humane after a period of transition, anxiety, beer,

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Speaker 1: How can you go about your daily activity after an

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Speaker 1: event like that without questioning it seriously? And they do,

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately the incidents is divorced, so increases dramatically after

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Speaker 1: a spouse has a near death experience. To emphasize how

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Speaker 1: much they change personally about their viewpoints again generally for

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Speaker 1: the much more better in the sense of their sympathy

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Speaker 1: everybody should have a peak experience, but controlled, we don't

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Speaker 1: need a hammer her over the head. You know where

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Speaker 1: life has changed in two minutes after native experience or

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Speaker 1: an interaction with something that they can explain. Listen to

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